WEBVTT 00:05.433 --> 00:06.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% PATRICIA GÓMEZ: En Wisconsin hay varios proyectos de ley 00:09.133 --> 00:09.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% bipartidistas que de ser aprobados beneficiarían 00:10.233 --> 00:10.933 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% a participantes de DACA. 00:13.700 --> 00:14.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Están patrocinados por los representantes Silvia Ortiz 00:15.133 --> 00:15.533 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Vélez y John Macco. 00:17.066 --> 00:17.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Ellos están con nosotros. 00:19.466 --> 00:20.466 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% PATRICIA GOMEZ: Representative Macco, 00:22.733 --> 00:23.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Representative Ortiz-Velez, thank you so much for being with 00:23.833 --> 00:24.066 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% us today on Adelante. 00:25.933 --> 00:26.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: Thank you for having us. 00:27.500 --> 00:28.233 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% PATRICIA GOMEZ: Representative Macco, 00:30.966 --> 00:31.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% you are a sponsoring in a bipartisan with Representative 00:37.066 --> 00:37.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Ortiz-Velez a set or a package of bills related to DACA. 00:39.533 --> 00:39.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Can you please list these bills? 00:40.566 --> 00:41.133 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% JOHN MACCO: Sure. 00:42.400 --> 00:42.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% We actually came up with four different bills. 00:51.066 --> 00:51.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% The first one is SB78, AB 820, AB 821, and AB 822. 00:53.100 --> 00:54.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Now I know most people don't go with numbers, 00:57.833 --> 00:58.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% but the first one is what are we calling our Police Parity Bill. 01:04.733 --> 01:05.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% AB 820 is a Tax Credit Bill, an offset of a fee that 01:05.966 --> 01:06.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% we're hoping to get done. 01:09.766 --> 01:10.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% The third one is tuition, and the fourth is licensing. 01:13.366 --> 01:13.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So those are our four packages, and they're in various stages 01:15.100 --> 01:15.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% of moving through the process here. 01:16.866 --> 01:17.366 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% PATRICIA GOMEZ: Representative Ortiz-Velez, 01:19.066 --> 01:19.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% can you tell us about Bill 820? 01:25.833 --> 01:26.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: Well, Bill 820 allows the state to give 01:31.633 --> 01:32.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that credit to offset the biannual application fee that 01:33.633 --> 01:34.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% has to be paid to the federal government. 01:40.100 --> 01:40.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And so that will help encourage people and help people along 01:40.733 --> 01:41.533 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% the way. 01:43.566 --> 01:43.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% PATRICIA GOMEZ: DACA enroll people have to pay around $500 01:44.800 --> 01:44.933 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% every two years? 01:45.700 --> 01:46.633 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: Yes. 01:48.866 --> 01:49.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% PATRICIA GOMEZ: And they will be offset by the $250 that they 01:49.833 --> 01:50.266 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% will be credited? 01:51.733 --> 01:51.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: Yes, the state would give a credit 01:52.466 --> 01:52.600 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% for that. 01:53.366 --> 01:53.866 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% PATRICIA GOMEZ: OK. 01:57.000 --> 01:57.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Representative Macco, can you tell us more about this bill, 02:00.800 --> 02:01.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% the DACA enroll, or the DACA beneficiaries being able 02:05.100 --> 02:05.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% to enter as a police officer the law enforcement? 02:07.133 --> 02:07.266 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Can you tell us-- 02:09.766 --> 02:10.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% JOHN MACCO: Actually, if I can just back up a second, 02:11.733 --> 02:12.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% all four of these bills are really critical. 02:16.500 --> 02:17.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% 820 was sort of the end piece of it because when we were looking 02:18.966 --> 02:19.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% at the three bills, the Police Parity Bill, 02:22.800 --> 02:23.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% keep in mind that DACA recipients right now can serve 02:25.566 --> 02:26.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% admirably probably in some of the military. 02:29.600 --> 02:29.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% They can serve admirably in the corrections department as law 02:30.700 --> 02:31.166 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% enforcement officers. 02:33.133 --> 02:33.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% They can serve in the Department of Natural Resources 02:34.500 --> 02:35.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% as an enforcement officer. 02:38.066 --> 02:38.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% They can serve admirably and do as state troopers. 02:43.900 --> 02:44.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% But local police officers are under a different set 02:44.666 --> 02:45.433 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% of statutes. 02:47.233 --> 02:48.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So all our little does, it says that the local law enforcement 02:52.500 --> 02:52.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% folks can hire under the same law, rules, and regulations. 02:53.600 --> 02:54.033 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% It doesn't mandate it. 02:55.633 --> 02:56.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It just gives them the same tools that the rest 02:58.533 --> 02:59.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% of the Wisconsin law enforcement folks have because it came 03:01.966 --> 03:02.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% to our attention up in Green Bay with our chief of police came 03:06.866 --> 03:07.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% to me, and he said he had a trainee that was moving up 03:09.866 --> 03:10.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% through the system, and he had gotten as far as he possibly 03:12.833 --> 03:13.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% could, and the next step for him now would be an officer. 03:15.500 --> 03:16.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% But he was precluded from doing that because local law 03:18.600 --> 03:19.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% enforcement is governed under different statutes than all 03:21.600 --> 03:21.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% the other law enforcement officer officers are 03:22.533 --> 03:22.900 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% in the state. 03:23.633 --> 03:24.100 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% So we're moving on that. 03:27.200 --> 03:28.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% As a good note, that young gentleman was then picked up 03:30.433 --> 03:31.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% by the state troopers, went through their program here 03:33.500 --> 03:34.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% in Wisconsin, served down in Dane County, 03:38.166 --> 03:38.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% is now serving admirably as a state trooper up in Brown County 03:39.133 --> 03:39.766 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% now in Green Bay. 03:41.333 --> 03:42.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So although the city of Green Bay didn't get an opportunity 03:44.933 --> 03:45.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% to have him on their staff, fortunately, 03:46.566 --> 03:47.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% we are getting his benefits there. 03:49.766 --> 03:50.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So that's the first piece is the Police Parity Bill. 03:53.600 --> 03:54.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% PATRICIA GOMEZ: If we go back to this set of bills, 03:55.733 --> 03:56.766 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Representative Sylvia Ortiz-Velez, 04:00.933 --> 04:01.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% can you tell us about 821, each of these bills look at different 04:07.633 --> 04:07.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% needs or barriers that these DACA beneficiaries are facing 04:08.333 --> 04:09.033 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% right now? 04:11.166 --> 04:12.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: All of the Bills also help the state 04:15.233 --> 04:16.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% of Wisconsin, fill our need of workforce development. 04:20.100 --> 04:20.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And that's important because we have a shortage of over 45,000 04:21.333 --> 04:22.133 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% workers in our state. 04:25.933 --> 04:26.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And not only do we need to retain people that 04:27.200 --> 04:28.133 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% we've invested in-- 04:31.900 --> 04:32.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Wisconsin taxpayers have paid to educate people here 04:32.733 --> 04:33.000 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% in our state. 04:34.233 --> 04:35.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% We've made investments into people. 04:36.266 --> 04:36.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% We don't want to throw away those investments. 04:41.566 --> 04:41.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And so 821 allows DACA recipients to receive in-state 04:42.166 --> 04:42.933 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% tuition. 04:45.700 --> 04:45.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Many of them have lived in Wisconsin most of their lives, 04:46.300 --> 04:47.100 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% anyway. 04:48.766 --> 04:49.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And they've gone to our high schools, and our middle schools, 04:49.866 --> 04:50.500 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% and our grade schools. 04:53.566 --> 04:54.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And all of them are meant to make sure that we build up 04:58.300 --> 04:59.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% our workforce as well and to remove barriers to employment 05:02.266 --> 05:03.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% for people who are authorized and want to work. 05:06.400 --> 05:06.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% PATRICIA GOMEZ: Few year ago, the in-state tuition was allowed 05:07.233 --> 05:08.000 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% in the state. 05:12.433 --> 05:13.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% After Governor Scott Walker took down that possibility, 05:18.066 --> 05:19.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% so now this is referring just to the DACA beneficiaries. 05:23.600 --> 05:23.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Before the institution was for students without documented 05:24.200 --> 05:24.933 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% status. 05:28.500 --> 05:28.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So right now, we are talking about the Wisconsin Public 05:29.100 --> 05:29.966 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% System. 05:32.200 --> 05:33.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% We are talking about the set of universities around Wisconsin 05:35.333 --> 05:35.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% that will allow in-state tuition for these students. 05:38.400 --> 05:38.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: That is correct description of Assembly 05:39.200 --> 05:39.766 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% Bill 821. 05:40.500 --> 05:41.433 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% PATRICIA GOMEZ: 821. 05:45.066 --> 05:46.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And then if we talk about right now all these students who went 05:48.966 --> 05:50.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% through all the way, as you say, through high school and now they 05:53.333 --> 05:53.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% want to go to the university, they have to pay out-of-state 05:54.333 --> 05:54.833 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% tuition? 05:56.533 --> 05:57.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: Not only do they not qualify to receive any 06:01.200 --> 06:02.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% kind of grant-- any kind of federal programming funds, 06:04.466 --> 06:04.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% they have to pay for it out of their pockets, but on top of it, 06:05.833 --> 06:06.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% they have to pay out-of-state. 06:09.566 --> 06:10.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% The irony of this is that if they were students that we have 06:14.733 --> 06:14.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% versity I think is Michigan-- if they lived in Michigan, then-- 06:15.733 --> 06:16.166 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% is it Michigan? 06:17.233 --> 06:17.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% PATRICIA GOMEZ: Minnesota. 06:18.600 --> 06:19.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: Minnesota. 06:20.166 --> 06:20.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% If they were transfers from Minnesota, 06:23.233 --> 06:23.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% then they would be allowed to have in-state tuition. 06:26.300 --> 06:27.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% PATRICIA GOMEZ: All that bright minds will be moving to other 06:29.266 --> 06:30.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% states, and we will be losing all those students who can 06:33.900 --> 06:34.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% graduate soon in so many areas that are needed in Wisconsin. 06:35.200 --> 06:35.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: Correct. 06:37.200 --> 06:37.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% PATRICIA GOMEZ: So going back to you, Representative Macco, 06:40.500 --> 06:41.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% can you tell us about the next bill that is 822? 06:45.700 --> 06:46.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It will be directed to another barrier that our 5,000 06:51.800 --> 06:52.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% or so, maybe 6,000, DACA beneficiaries in Wisconsin are 06:52.833 --> 06:53.400 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% facing this barrier. 06:57.133 --> 06:58.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% JOHN MACCO: I first want to back up just a moment and make sure 07:01.366 --> 07:02.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that we understand that this has nothing to do with immigration. 07:04.000 --> 07:04.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% None of these bills are immigration bills. 07:08.600 --> 07:08.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% These are job bills and economic development bills. 07:09.200 --> 07:09.833 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% Period. 07:11.166 --> 07:11.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I want to make sure everybody understands that. 07:13.433 --> 07:14.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Now the immigration issue is another issue. 07:18.166 --> 07:18.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And I'm sure that representative Ortiz and I would agree on a lot 07:19.466 --> 07:20.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% of issues relative to that. 07:22.066 --> 07:22.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% But I want to make sure that your listeners and your viewers 07:24.366 --> 07:25.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% realize that's not what this is about. 07:27.733 --> 07:28.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% This is about plain old simple economic development. 07:31.166 --> 07:32.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Like you said, Patricia, we have 6,000 of these DACA recipients 07:33.766 --> 07:34.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that are residing here in the state of Wisconsin, 07:35.033 --> 07:35.900 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% 600,000 nationally. 07:39.866 --> 07:40.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And we want them to feel-- and they're here already. 07:41.533 --> 07:42.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And so what do we do with them? 07:43.466 --> 07:44.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And my goal is to make them career- 07:47.766 --> 07:48.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and community-ready and to make them a prosperous taxpayers here 07:49.000 --> 07:49.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% in the state of Wisconsin. 07:50.200 --> 07:50.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% That's what I would like to see. 07:52.100 --> 07:53.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% That's what Sylvia and I are working on. 07:55.833 --> 07:56.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And so it seems ludicrous to me to have someone that's lived 07:58.500 --> 07:59.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% here for 20 years, like Sylvia said, 08:01.833 --> 08:02.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% that has gone through our education program, 08:03.066 --> 08:03.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% then goes to college here. 08:05.866 --> 08:06.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% We sat down with a wonderful young lady, Sylvia and I, 08:11.900 --> 08:12.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% just a few weeks ago, who's now graduated from Carroll College 08:12.666 --> 08:13.533 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% as a nurse. 08:16.333 --> 08:17.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And she will now have to move to a different state to pass her 08:21.933 --> 08:22.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% nursing exam classes and get her license in another state 08:23.000 --> 08:23.400 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% and practice there. 08:24.500 --> 08:25.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% That makes no sense to us. 08:27.366 --> 08:28.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% We want them to be career- and community-ready. 08:30.833 --> 08:30.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So we want to make them available to get in-state 08:31.433 --> 08:31.733 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% tuition. 08:32.766 --> 08:33.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Then Sylvia said, they don't get-- 08:35.600 --> 08:36.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% they do not get any tax benefits, none. 08:37.400 --> 08:38.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% They're not eligible for unemployment. 08:39.566 --> 08:40.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% They're not eligible for Social Security benefits. 08:44.600 --> 08:44.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% They're not eligible for any kind of tuition subsidies 08:45.333 --> 08:45.533 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% or grants. 08:46.166 --> 08:46.800 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% And that's OK. 08:48.000 --> 08:48.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% But we don't want them to be penalized. 08:53.166 --> 08:53.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% We want them to pay a regular in-state tuition price just like 08:54.600 --> 08:55.100 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% everybody else would. 08:56.666 --> 08:57.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And then we go to the licensing. 08:57.900 --> 08:58.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And it's absolutely crazy. 09:01.133 --> 09:01.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Like I said, that one gal that is graduating from Carroll 09:03.466 --> 09:04.300 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% as a nurse can't even practice here. 09:06.166 --> 09:07.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% She's going to have to get licensed somewhere else, 09:10.433 --> 09:11.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and we lose a perfectly good nurse who lives here, 09:12.733 --> 09:13.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% loves this, considers Wisconsin home. 09:15.066 --> 09:15.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% But they can't be plumbers, either, 09:16.700 --> 09:17.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% or licensed electricians. 09:20.133 --> 09:21.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% They can't be barbers, for crying out loud. 09:22.933 --> 09:23.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So anything at all that the state of Wisconsin issues 09:27.033 --> 09:27.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% a license for, we would like them to also be able to qualify 09:27.733 --> 09:27.866 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% for here. 09:28.700 --> 09:29.033 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Now that's the key. 09:29.800 --> 09:30.300 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% They have to qualify. 09:32.200 --> 09:33.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And I want you to know that this isn't that-- 09:37.100 --> 09:38.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% some really crazy so-called liberal states, like Arkansas, 09:42.033 --> 09:43.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and Tennessee, and Utah have already passed these bills. 09:46.100 --> 09:47.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So we've got to get out of our own way and allow these folks 09:49.233 --> 09:50.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% to become productive citizens in the state of Wisconsin 09:54.266 --> 09:54.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and to enjoy any kind of career that they can qualify 09:55.366 --> 09:55.766 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% for and want to pursue. 09:57.600 --> 09:58.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So that's what the licensing piece does. 09:59.366 --> 10:00.100 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% That's what the tuition piece does. 10:01.466 --> 10:02.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And that's what the Police Parity Bill does. 10:04.600 --> 10:05.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And then we were so incensed about it that we're going these 10:07.800 --> 10:08.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% poor folks are down here working their tails off, 10:10.833 --> 10:11.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and then we charge them $500 bucks every two weeks, 10:14.333 --> 10:15.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% so we just threw the tax piece in there just for fun because I 10:17.400 --> 10:18.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% was so irritated that we're penalizing these folks, 10:19.300 --> 10:19.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and I wanted to give them half of it back 10:20.900 --> 10:21.766 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Because I'd love it, quite honestly, 10:25.400 --> 10:26.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I'd love it if all 600,000 DACA recipients from the entire 10:27.700 --> 10:28.333 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% country were to move to Wisconsin. 10:29.700 --> 10:30.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% That would be awesome for our economy. 10:31.933 --> 10:32.566 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% And so if we can incentivize them to do that, 10:33.800 --> 10:34.100 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% that's what I'd like to see happen. 10:34.900 --> 10:35.333 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% PATRICIA GOMEZ: Yeah. 10:36.833 --> 10:37.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: Well, these bills are also not only 10:40.900 --> 10:41.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% to retain the great people that we have here already, 10:47.000 --> 10:47.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but to invite others across our country to come. 10:48.366 --> 10:49.200 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% PATRICIA GOMEZ: Yeah. 10:50.766 --> 10:51.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% However, Representative Macco, and now that you have learned 10:53.766 --> 10:54.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% so much about taking down these barriers, 10:58.700 --> 10:59.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% not just for the DACA enroll, but for our state to keep great 11:03.033 --> 11:03.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% employees and to keep tax contributors because they are 11:06.300 --> 11:07.100 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% contributing, I think, $15 million, 11:11.833 --> 11:12.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% just this small group of 6,000 DACA-enrolled. 11:15.233 --> 11:16.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% There are so many other things that can be done in Wisconsin. 11:20.466 --> 11:20.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Wisconsin actually is considered one of the restricted states 11:21.300 --> 11:21.933 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% regarding DACA. 11:25.133 --> 11:25.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% You mentioned the progressive, Wisconsin still being 11:26.666 --> 11:27.700 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% a restrictive state. 11:30.033 --> 11:31.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Other states, I understand, they provide funding for health 11:36.200 --> 11:36.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% because these DACA beneficiaries don't have any protections 11:37.233 --> 11:37.766 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% in the health area. 11:40.600 --> 11:41.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Are you ready to make a long list of all the other barriers 11:41.966 --> 11:42.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% that you have to take down? 11:43.900 --> 11:44.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% JOHN MACCO: No, Patricia, And that's exactly the problem. 11:45.933 --> 11:46.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% That's not at all what I'm talking about. 11:46.966 --> 11:47.333 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% PATRICIA GOMEZ: OK. 11:48.666 --> 11:48.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% JOHN MACCO: That's not at all what I'm all about. 11:52.233 --> 11:53.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I am not-- a matter of fact, it's no secret. 11:55.466 --> 11:56.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I am not at all interested in expanding Medicaid. 11:58.366 --> 11:58.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I'm not at all interested in bigger government, 12:01.033 --> 12:01.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% or bigger agencies, or free handouts. 12:02.333 --> 12:03.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And I'll tell you something. 12:07.766 --> 12:08.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% That's not-- every DACA recipient I ran into, that's not 12:08.866 --> 12:09.433 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% what they're asking for. 12:12.266 --> 12:12.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So please don't make this into an immigration conversation. 12:12.966 --> 12:13.100 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% It's not. 12:13.800 --> 12:14.300 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% It's opportunity. 12:16.033 --> 12:16.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% We want these folks to have the same opportunities that 12:18.900 --> 12:19.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% my grandparents, when they immigrated from Belgium. 12:20.133 --> 12:20.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And that's what they want. 12:23.333 --> 12:23.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So they just want us to get out of the way and let them do 12:24.433 --> 12:24.566 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% the successful thing. 12:25.300 --> 12:25.600 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Let them be a nurse. 12:26.433 --> 12:26.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Let them be an accountant. 12:29.366 --> 12:29.633 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Let them be an electrician or a plumber. 12:30.333 --> 12:30.766 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Let them do that. 12:32.233 --> 12:32.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And they'll figure it out the rest of it themselves. 12:34.500 --> 12:34.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% They're here for opportunities. 12:35.866 --> 12:36.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% All of those folks are there. 12:38.966 --> 12:39.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So I want to make sure that you understand that that's what 12:39.933 --> 12:40.533 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% we're looking for. 12:43.966 --> 12:44.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And I think these bills would allow them to pursue those 12:47.833 --> 12:48.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% careers and to become quality citizens here in the state 12:48.666 --> 12:49.333 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% of Wisconsin. 12:52.200 --> 12:52.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Now do I think Congress needs to move forward on some of those 12:52.833 --> 12:52.966 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% things? 12:53.600 --> 12:54.033 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% Absolutely. 12:56.100 --> 12:57.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I think it is unconscionable that Congress hasn't put 12:59.933 --> 13:00.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% together a path so that these 600,000 DACA recipients have 13:03.700 --> 13:04.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% a methodology for them to get their green cards and eventually 13:05.000 --> 13:05.300 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% get their citizenship. 13:06.033 --> 13:06.600 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% That has to happen. 13:09.600 --> 13:10.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And I guarantee you that all 600,000 of them would be willing 13:11.100 --> 13:11.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% to do that in a heartbeat. 13:15.666 --> 13:15.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% My sister-in-law was a Chinese citizen. 13:16.500 --> 13:17.033 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% She was here. 13:19.433 --> 13:20.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% She is a PhD working in the labs in here in Madison, 13:23.700 --> 13:24.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and she just became a citizen about two years ago after 15 13:27.600 --> 13:28.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% long, arduous years, and ridiculous amounts of paperwork. 13:31.800 --> 13:31.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And I was pleasured and honored to go to her swearing-in 13:32.500 --> 13:33.266 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% ceremony. 13:35.900 --> 13:36.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And I think the 600,000 folks-- when you look at what a DACA 13:39.900 --> 13:40.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% recipient has to do just to maintain their DACA status, 13:42.266 --> 13:43.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% those are the kind of folks I want working for me. 13:46.233 --> 13:46.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And between all of our different companies in our Macco family, 13:49.433 --> 13:50.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% we have about 500 or 550 different employees. 13:51.466 --> 13:52.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% There's two people that I'd hire in a minute. 13:56.533 --> 13:56.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% If you worked on a family farm, and if you're a DACA recipient. 13:57.166 --> 13:57.933 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% Period. 13:59.433 --> 14:00.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I'd hire you hands down because I know you know how to work, 14:01.333 --> 14:02.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and you're not looking for anything free. 14:05.000 --> 14:05.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% You're only working to-- you're only looking to say, hey, 14:06.100 --> 14:06.500 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% I know what I want. 14:07.333 --> 14:08.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I'm here for opportunity. 14:10.133 --> 14:11.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And I want to get out of the way of those hardworking folks that 14:14.500 --> 14:14.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% are doing exactly what my great grandparents did when they came 14:15.133 --> 14:15.633 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% here. 14:16.900 --> 14:17.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% They didn't come here looking for anything. 14:19.866 --> 14:20.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% They came here to say, I just-- this is the land of opportunity. 14:21.766 --> 14:22.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And it still is the land of opportunity. 14:25.066 --> 14:26.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And that's what I think Representative Ortiz and I are 14:28.533 --> 14:29.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% recognizing and realizing and going, all right, let them go, 14:32.100 --> 14:33.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% let them go because the economic power of that group, 14:35.666 --> 14:36.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% if we were to let them do their thing, would be staggering. 14:38.966 --> 14:39.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And those are the kind of folks that we want to be productive 14:40.866 --> 14:41.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% citizens here in the state of Wisconsin. 14:44.666 --> 14:45.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So those are the issues and we think allowing licensing, 14:46.600 --> 14:47.333 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% allowing them getting an education, 14:50.033 --> 14:50.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and pursuing the careers that they see fit, 14:51.633 --> 14:52.300 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% is the best way to get that done. 14:55.200 --> 14:55.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% PATRICIA GOMEZ: Representative Ortiz-Velez can you tell me 14:57.500 --> 14:58.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% about the benefits for Wisconsin? 15:02.166 --> 15:02.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% We have mentioned economic in general employment, 15:04.400 --> 15:05.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% taxes contributions from these. 15:06.900 --> 15:07.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Are there any other areas that we can mentioned? 15:09.066 --> 15:09.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: Especially, in health care. 15:12.600 --> 15:13.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% We have a very aging population, and we really need more nurses 15:16.866 --> 15:17.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and more medical staff to take care of our aging population. 15:18.900 --> 15:19.900 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% So that's a big need in our state. 15:23.000 --> 15:23.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I mean, we even have hospitals that are closing down across 15:23.700 --> 15:24.266 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% our state. 15:27.233 --> 15:28.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And that's a sign of nothing good on the horizon. 15:30.666 --> 15:31.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So we need to really focus, especially in certain fields, 15:34.700 --> 15:35.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% especially in medical, and other workforce areas. 15:37.366 --> 15:38.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% PATRICIA GOMEZ: Talking about the Latino community, 15:40.633 --> 15:41.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% as we have a reduced amount of professionals, 15:44.800 --> 15:45.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% we also have a huge need among Latinos of those professionals 15:47.166 --> 15:47.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% who are in the same culture, in the same language. 15:49.166 --> 15:49.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: Well, that's absolutely true. 15:52.566 --> 15:53.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So there is a growing need for people that can speak Spanish 15:56.733 --> 15:57.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and provide those services in a different language to people 15:58.966 --> 15:59.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% in our communities across our state. 16:00.966 --> 16:01.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% PATRICIA GOMEZ: What about in the area of construction? 16:03.100 --> 16:03.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% You talk about electricians needing these-- 16:04.966 --> 16:05.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: Oh, my gosh. 16:05.566 --> 16:05.933 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% Yes. 16:07.000 --> 16:07.166 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% PATRICIA GOMEZ: - -these licensings. 16:09.066 --> 16:09.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: Yeah, we need to build a lot of homes 16:09.900 --> 16:10.500 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% in our state. 16:11.933 --> 16:12.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% We have a housing shortage, and it's a supply problem. 16:13.600 --> 16:14.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And so we need to build, build, build. 16:17.366 --> 16:17.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Well, we need people to help with that workforce to build. 16:19.333 --> 16:19.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And part of that is electric. 16:20.700 --> 16:21.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% We need electricity in homes. 16:21.866 --> 16:22.000 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% PATRICIA GOMEZ: Plumber. 16:22.566 --> 16:22.700 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% Plumbers. 16:23.433 --> 16:23.566 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: Yes. 16:24.433 --> 16:24.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% PATRICIA GOMEZ: And many other-- 16:25.733 --> 16:26.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% professions that are needing-- 16:27.833 --> 16:28.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: Real estate brokers, even-- 16:29.433 --> 16:29.566 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% PATRICIA GOMEZ: Exactly. 16:30.933 --> 16:31.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: --being able to service people 16:33.133 --> 16:33.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% in the language that they feel comfortable in to make sure 16:35.766 --> 16:36.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% there's a meeting of the minds when it comes to contracts. 16:36.733 --> 16:37.233 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% That's important. 16:38.633 --> 16:39.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% PATRICIA GOMEZ: Well, this is important because a lot 16:41.966 --> 16:42.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% of people are not informed about the situation about this 16:42.666 --> 16:43.433 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% condition. 16:46.833 --> 16:47.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Even students who are dreaming to graduate in one of those-- 16:48.100 --> 16:48.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: That's so true. 16:49.800 --> 16:49.933 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% PATRICIA GOMEZ: - -and they are DACA, 16:51.233 --> 16:51.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% have no idea that Wisconsin has this barrier. 16:53.100 --> 16:53.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: Some people don't even know, 16:54.766 --> 16:55.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and they're studying in these fields, 16:57.533 --> 16:58.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and they're invested their time, and their money, 17:00.600 --> 17:01.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and their families have pulled together to make sure they can 17:04.266 --> 17:05.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% make it that far only to find out weeks before graduating, 17:07.700 --> 17:08.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that they can't get licensed in our state in a place that 17:10.366 --> 17:11.066 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% they've called home. 17:13.266 --> 17:13.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% They have to move, and people are moving. 17:14.600 --> 17:15.566 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% PATRICIA GOMEZ: Exactly. 17:17.200 --> 17:17.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And Latinos like to live in within our families in the same 17:18.300 --> 17:18.433 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% location. 17:19.533 --> 17:19.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: That is true. 17:20.400 --> 17:20.666 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% PATRICIA GOMEZ: OK. 17:22.266 --> 17:23.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Representative Macco, what opportunities have these 17:27.266 --> 17:28.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% bipartisan bills to pass for these coming sessions, 17:31.266 --> 17:31.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% all the way from where they are coming and they are being 17:34.433 --> 17:35.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% successful, all the way to be approved? 17:37.466 --> 17:37.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% JOHN MACCO: Yes, so as you articulated, 17:38.833 --> 17:39.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% there are four separate bills. 17:41.700 --> 17:42.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% We think they should pass all four of them. 17:44.533 --> 17:45.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I did have the opportunity to speak with the governor about it 17:48.466 --> 17:48.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% briefly at the residence around Christmas time, 17:50.233 --> 17:50.666 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% and he's all for them. 17:51.533 --> 17:52.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% So we have to get it to him. 17:55.700 --> 17:56.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% The challenge really is on our side of the aisle, 17:57.300 --> 17:58.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% there's a profound miscommunication 18:01.766 --> 18:02.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and a misunderstanding of what a DACA recipient actually is, 18:03.833 --> 18:04.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% or what these bills actually do. 18:07.700 --> 18:08.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And so we've made tremendous communication-- 18:10.566 --> 18:11.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% tremendous effort on that. 18:15.533 --> 18:16.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Great for her, but sad for us, our Senate lead was Senator Lena 18:20.033 --> 18:20.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Taylor, who, as you know, was just appointed a judgeship this 18:20.633 --> 18:21.200 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% weekend. 18:23.100 --> 18:23.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I texted her before it was actually announced 18:24.333 --> 18:24.766 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% and congratulated her. 18:26.133 --> 18:26.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% She will make a great judge. 18:29.466 --> 18:30.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% But she was our champion on the Senate side. 18:32.700 --> 18:33.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And we still have Senator James over there, 18:34.066 --> 18:34.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and he's doing a phenomenal job. 18:38.666 --> 18:39.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% But that seems to be where the gridlock is running into. 18:43.800 --> 18:44.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So very proud of the fact that with Representative Ortiz and I, 18:46.333 --> 18:46.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% we were able to get these bills. 18:47.966 --> 18:48.600 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Some of them are in various stages, 18:50.266 --> 18:51.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but they've been through committees and through-- 18:53.966 --> 18:54.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% one of them-- in the case of the Police Parity Bill was already 18:55.066 --> 18:56.033 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% done on the main floor. 18:59.033 --> 18:59.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So we're now just waiting for the Senate to move on some 18:59.733 --> 19:00.266 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% of these. 19:01.533 --> 19:02.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And then if that were to happen, they'll go 19:04.833 --> 19:04.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% to the governor's desk, which I'm convinced he would sign 19:05.466 --> 19:05.833 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% them. 19:07.366 --> 19:08.400 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% So we just have to get that done. 19:10.466 --> 19:11.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% But as you know, there's a lot of commotion going on in this 19:12.600 --> 19:13.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% building the last few weeks that, I think, 19:16.066 --> 19:17.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% are sadly distracting us from some of the real work 19:20.966 --> 19:21.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% of governing that we need to be doing right now and frustrated 19:22.133 --> 19:22.866 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% as everybody is. 19:24.100 --> 19:24.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And we've got a team of folks, by the way, 19:26.966 --> 19:27.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% with Representative Ortiz and I, and a bunch of other folks who 19:28.366 --> 19:29.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% want to see these things done. 19:31.633 --> 19:32.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And daily, we're going back and forth and back and forth, 19:32.933 --> 19:33.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% did you talk to this person? 19:34.100 --> 19:34.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Did you talk to that person? 19:35.000 --> 19:35.166 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Where are we on this? 19:35.900 --> 19:36.766 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% How do we get that done? 19:41.500 --> 19:42.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So we're working really, really diligently to get the hearings 19:43.366 --> 19:44.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% that we need on the Senate side. 19:47.233 --> 19:47.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And then it's our hope that those would go straight 19:48.066 --> 19:48.200 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% to the governor. 19:50.833 --> 19:51.766 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% But too soon to tell. 19:54.333 --> 19:54.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% But organizations like yours, getting the word out like 19:56.466 --> 19:56.800 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% you're doing, is extremely helpful. 19:57.566 --> 19:58.233 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% So thank you for that. 20:01.866 --> 20:02.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% We had another interview about an hour ago on the same topic. 20:04.266 --> 20:05.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% So I think folks realize. 20:07.433 --> 20:08.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And especially when Representative Ortiz and I get 20:10.000 --> 20:10.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% a chance to actually sit down with these folks and say, no, 20:13.666 --> 20:14.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% no, no, let me clarify to you exactly what this does and what 20:18.000 --> 20:18.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% it does not, then they go, oh, that makes perfect sense. 20:21.300 --> 20:22.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And so we just need to do more of that, 20:23.900 --> 20:24.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% so I want to thank you for broadcasting that. 20:26.933 --> 20:27.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% PATRICIA GOMEZ: Thank you, Representative Macco, 20:27.966 --> 20:28.533 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% for taking the time. 20:31.900 --> 20:32.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Representative Ortiz-Velez, what are the next steps that need 20:32.666 --> 20:33.166 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% to be done? 20:35.966 --> 20:36.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I know that after he gets out of the assembly, 20:37.733 --> 20:38.200 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% it goes to the Senate. 20:39.466 --> 20:40.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And we are running out of time. 20:41.466 --> 20:42.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: We are running out of time. 20:44.633 --> 20:45.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So if you're listening, please call your senators, 20:46.900 --> 20:47.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% call your assembly representatives, 20:52.066 --> 20:52.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and tell them that you support all four of the bills because we 20:53.100 --> 20:53.233 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% are running on time. 20:54.600 --> 20:54.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And we need everyone's help. 20:55.866 --> 20:56.600 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% It's all hands on deck. 20:57.900 --> 20:58.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I'm hoping we can get this to the finish line. 21:00.266 --> 21:00.933 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% PATRICIA GOMEZ: Representative Macco, 21:05.233 --> 21:06.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% what happens if these bills run out of time? 21:13.733 --> 21:14.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Are you in a serious position to reenter for the next session? 21:15.500 --> 21:16.333 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% JOHN MACCO: Sure. 21:18.166 --> 21:19.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% If both Representative Ortiz and I come back next session, 21:21.233 --> 21:22.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% we're fortunate enough to get reelected, we will do it again. 21:24.000 --> 21:24.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Now keep in mind on the Police Parity Bill, 21:27.400 --> 21:27.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% we did this last session, too. 21:29.533 --> 21:30.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% This isn't our first stab at it. 21:34.233 --> 21:35.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So it passed, I think, 98 to 1 last session. 21:40.300 --> 21:40.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And so we moved it out, and it got bogged down in the Senate 21:40.933 --> 21:41.400 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% again. 21:43.333 --> 21:43.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And so we ran out of time there in the Senate. 21:45.033 --> 21:45.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% So we're trying one more time. 21:47.833 --> 21:48.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% We're closer now than we were last time. 21:49.466 --> 21:50.333 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% So hopefully, we can get that done. 21:54.466 --> 21:55.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% But if for some reason we run out of time and it just 21:58.300 --> 21:58.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% doesn't get done, we'll take it up again in January. 22:00.766 --> 22:01.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: So Representative Macco has shown 22:03.166 --> 22:04.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% more than one session, time after time, 22:07.166 --> 22:07.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that he is dedicated to making sure that these bills move 22:08.233 --> 22:08.633 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% forward. 22:10.933 --> 22:11.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% PATRICIA GOMEZ: So that's guarantee then if this time 22:14.166 --> 22:14.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% things don't work, it will be reintroduced. 22:16.966 --> 22:17.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: I have no doubt. 22:18.233 --> 22:18.366 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% PATRICIA GOMEZ: OK. 22:18.833 --> 22:19.233 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% So now-- 22:20.400 --> 22:20.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: His commitment-- 22:21.633 --> 22:22.033 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% PATRICIA GOMEZ: OK. 22:22.900 --> 22:23.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: --and mine. 22:26.866 --> 22:27.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% PATRICIA GOMEZ: How can people follow up the developments with 22:27.700 --> 22:28.266 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% this process? 22:30.300 --> 22:30.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% How can people be paying attention to what is happening 22:32.066 --> 22:32.533 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% to these bills, Representative Ortiz? 22:33.600 --> 22:33.800 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Is there a way that they can be-- 22:35.133 --> 22:35.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: I think contacting our offices. 22:38.033 --> 22:38.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% My staff is always happy to keep people informed about 22:41.800 --> 22:42.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% what's going on because it is consistently moving, 22:44.000 --> 22:44.700 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% so things are consistently changing. 22:48.100 --> 22:49.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So I mean, contacting my office, I know, 22:51.733 --> 22:52.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% my staff would be helpful to explain what's going on, and how 22:53.966 --> 22:54.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% they can help individually. 22:55.066 --> 22:55.600 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% PATRICIA GOMEZ: Good. 22:57.166 --> 22:57.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Representative Macco, is there something else that you would 22:59.600 --> 23:00.433 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% like to add to this conversation? 23:02.666 --> 23:03.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% JOHN MACCO: No, I think my colleague is absolutely right. 23:04.633 --> 23:05.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Folks need to continue to make phone calls, 23:07.700 --> 23:08.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% particularly to the Republican senators and let them know 23:11.733 --> 23:12.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% exactly how important this is in developing our business 23:14.700 --> 23:15.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% community, and that's what we need to get done. 23:20.133 --> 23:20.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So again, Sylvia and I are running roughshod here 23:21.100 --> 23:21.700 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% on the House side. 23:24.033 --> 23:24.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And so that's not really where the problem lies. 23:26.933 --> 23:27.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% But we do need to move forward on the Senate side. 23:33.200 --> 23:34.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% We're a little bit handicapped now that Senator Taylor has left 23:37.100 --> 23:37.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% the Senate and is now in her new position as Judge. 23:41.000 --> 23:41.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So she was an amazing advocate for us over there. 23:45.200 --> 23:46.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And we need to continue to have folks advocate for us 23:48.566 --> 23:49.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% on the Senate side so that we can get these hearings, 23:51.633 --> 23:52.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that we get them exact, that we get them on the floor, 23:53.833 --> 23:54.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and then we can get them to the governor to sign. 23:55.633 --> 23:56.500 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% PATRICIA GOMEZ: Representative Macco, 23:59.333 --> 23:59.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Representative Ortiz-Velez, we're grateful to have you here 24:02.033 --> 24:02.700 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% with this very important information, 24:03.866 --> 24:04.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% crucial information for our community. 24:06.900 --> 24:11.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% SYLVIA ORTIZ-VELEZ: Thank you for getting the message out. 24:16.466 --> 24:16.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% PATRICIA GOMEZ: Thank you.