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- I was writing with Don
Schlitz. MCA was his company.

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And he said, "They're
sending Janis Ian here

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to write with a few people."

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And he said, "Would
you like to meet her?"

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And I said, yeah, of course.

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- If you're a songwriter,
you know Janis Ian.

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If you're a songwriter,

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you know the integrity
of her writing.

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And so the opportunity to
sit in a room with this woman

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and co-write with
her was an honor.

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- Janis's friend,
her name was Mary,

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she had a restaurant
called Options.

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And we would go there
for lunch every day.

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And wasn't doing
well. Tough business.

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- [Janis] We walked in one
day and Mary was really down

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and I said, what's wrong?

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And she said, "I'm gonna
lose the restaurant.

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"Why should I stay alive, man,

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"I'm not doing
anything in the world."

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- She started talking about
committing suicide and I knew

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that Janis and I were both
feeling the same thing.

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It was like, what do we do here?

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- [Janis] We said,
the usual platitudes.

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And she said, "No, no.
It's different for you."

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Whether you have children or
not. Your work's gonna live.

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But I haven't left a mark.

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- What do you say after that?

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What did we need to say to Mary?

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(guitar music)

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- I was sitting
there with a guitar

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and I said, man, some people's
lives just, I don't know,

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some people's lives
just run down.

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And Kai said, "Some people's
lives run down like clocks."

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♪ Some people's lives ♪

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♪ Run down like clocks ♪

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♪ One day they stop ♪

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♪ That's all they've got ♪

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♪ Some lives wear out ♪

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♪ Like old tennis shoes ♪

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♪ No one can use ♪

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♪ It's sad but it's true ♪

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♪ Didn't anybody tell them ♪

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♪ Didn't anybody see ♪

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♪ Didn't anybody love them ♪

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♪ Like you love me ♪

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- We were looking
for this clincher

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that we just hadn't found.

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And one day we were
driving down the interstate

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and it just popped in.

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♪ Some people's lives ♪

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♪ Are as cold as their lips ♪

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♪ They just need to be kissed ♪