1 00:00:01,301 --> 00:00:03,236 - I was writing with Don Schlitz. MCA was his company. 2 00:00:03,236 --> 00:00:06,239 And he said, "They're sending Janis Ian here 3 00:00:06,239 --> 00:00:07,774 to write with a few people." 4 00:00:08,942 --> 00:00:09,876 And he said, "Would you like to meet her?" 5 00:00:09,876 --> 00:00:12,979 And I said, yeah, of course. 6 00:00:12,979 --> 00:00:16,449 - If you're a songwriter, you know Janis Ian. 7 00:00:16,449 --> 00:00:17,650 If you're a songwriter, 8 00:00:17,650 --> 00:00:21,421 you know the integrity of her writing. 9 00:00:21,421 --> 00:00:26,092 And so the opportunity to sit in a room with this woman 10 00:00:26,092 --> 00:00:29,696 and co-write with her was an honor. 11 00:00:30,764 --> 00:00:33,800 - Janis's friend, her name was Mary, 12 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:36,202 she had a restaurant called Options. 13 00:00:36,202 --> 00:00:38,772 And we would go there for lunch every day. 14 00:00:38,772 --> 00:00:42,442 And wasn't doing well. Tough business. 15 00:00:42,442 --> 00:00:44,711 - [Janis] We walked in one day and Mary was really down 16 00:00:44,711 --> 00:00:46,012 and I said, what's wrong? 17 00:00:46,012 --> 00:00:47,847 And she said, "I'm gonna lose the restaurant. 18 00:00:47,847 --> 00:00:49,049 "Why should I stay alive, man, 19 00:00:49,049 --> 00:00:50,917 "I'm not doing anything in the world." 20 00:00:50,917 --> 00:00:54,521 - She started talking about committing suicide and I knew 21 00:00:56,189 --> 00:00:58,291 that Janis and I were both feeling the same thing. 22 00:00:58,291 --> 00:01:01,027 It was like, what do we do here? 23 00:01:01,027 --> 00:01:02,595 - [Janis] We said, the usual platitudes. 24 00:01:02,595 --> 00:01:05,031 And she said, "No, no. It's different for you." 25 00:01:05,031 --> 00:01:08,068 Whether you have children or not. Your work's gonna live. 26 00:01:08,068 --> 00:01:09,936 But I haven't left a mark. 27 00:01:09,936 --> 00:01:11,471 - What do you say after that? 28 00:01:12,605 --> 00:01:14,841 What did we need to say to Mary? 29 00:01:14,841 --> 00:01:17,510 (guitar music) 30 00:01:20,847 --> 00:01:22,382 - I was sitting there with a guitar 31 00:01:22,382 --> 00:01:24,851 and I said, man, some people's lives just, I don't know, 32 00:01:24,851 --> 00:01:27,320 some people's lives just run down. 33 00:01:27,320 --> 00:01:30,490 And Kai said, "Some people's lives run down like clocks." 34 00:01:30,490 --> 00:01:35,361 ♪ Some people's lives ♪ 35 00:01:35,361 --> 00:01:40,433 ♪ Run down like clocks ♪ 36 00:01:41,267 --> 00:01:45,438 ♪ One day they stop ♪ 37 00:01:45,438 --> 00:01:50,343 ♪ That's all they've got ♪ 38 00:01:50,343 --> 00:01:55,048 ♪ Some lives wear out ♪ 39 00:01:55,048 --> 00:02:00,019 ♪ Like old tennis shoes ♪ 40 00:02:00,687 --> 00:02:05,058 ♪ No one can use ♪ 41 00:02:05,859 --> 00:02:09,729 ♪ It's sad but it's true ♪ 42 00:02:09,729 --> 00:02:14,434 ♪ Didn't anybody tell them ♪ 43 00:02:14,434 --> 00:02:19,005 ♪ Didn't anybody see ♪ 44 00:02:19,005 --> 00:02:24,077 ♪ Didn't anybody love them ♪ 45 00:02:24,777 --> 00:02:27,313 ♪ Like you love me ♪ 46 00:02:28,948 --> 00:02:31,417 - We were looking for this clincher 47 00:02:31,417 --> 00:02:33,386 that we just hadn't found. 48 00:02:34,654 --> 00:02:37,624 And one day we were driving down the interstate 49 00:02:37,624 --> 00:02:39,325 and it just popped in. 50 00:02:39,325 --> 00:02:43,730 ♪ Some people's lives ♪ 51 00:02:43,730 --> 00:02:48,801 ♪ Are as cold as their lips ♪ 52 00:02:50,170 --> 00:02:53,973 ♪ They just need to be kissed ♪