1 00:00:01,468 --> 00:00:02,769 - It's not just, she's talking about the pain of adolescence 2 00:00:02,769 --> 00:00:04,704 and the pain of feeling like an ugly duckling 3 00:00:04,704 --> 00:00:08,141 and the pain of not being in the in crowd or whatever, 4 00:00:08,141 --> 00:00:10,243 it's also about being the tall, blonde, 5 00:00:10,243 --> 00:00:11,411 blue-eyed cheerleader. 6 00:00:11,411 --> 00:00:15,515 ♪ Remember those who win the game ♪ 7 00:00:15,515 --> 00:00:18,084 ♪ Lose the love they sought to gain ♪ 8 00:00:18,084 --> 00:00:20,053 - I was the cheerleader. (laughs) 9 00:00:20,053 --> 00:00:23,723 I was the girl that Janis sang about in "At Seventeen." 10 00:00:23,723 --> 00:00:26,926 I was a good girl who was dating the bad boy. 11 00:00:26,926 --> 00:00:30,530 ♪ Their small town eyes will gape at you ♪ 12 00:00:30,530 --> 00:00:35,135 ♪ In dull surprise when payment due ♪ 13 00:00:35,135 --> 00:00:38,772 - And I don't care if you're super handsome, beautiful, 14 00:00:38,772 --> 00:00:41,808 of you're smart or you're you're dumb. 15 00:00:41,808 --> 00:00:45,945 Everybody feels like a piece of [bleep] in some kinda way. 16 00:00:45,945 --> 00:00:48,281 - I was a very weirdo kid growing up 17 00:00:48,281 --> 00:00:50,150 in the eighties and nineties in the Midwest, 18 00:00:50,150 --> 00:00:52,986 and all of my peers were listening to Nirvana 19 00:00:52,986 --> 00:00:55,021 and Guns N' Roses, and I, for some reason, 20 00:00:55,021 --> 00:00:56,856 was this little sad closeted kid 21 00:00:56,856 --> 00:00:59,359 who was listening to Joan Baez and Phil Ochs 22 00:00:59,359 --> 00:01:02,395 and Janis Ian by candlelight. (laughs) 23 00:01:03,530 --> 00:01:05,065 The line that always made me laugh, 24 00:01:05,065 --> 00:01:07,967 because if we didn't laugh, we would almost cry, 25 00:01:07,967 --> 00:01:12,205 was the line, "To those whose names were never called 26 00:01:12,205 --> 00:01:13,840 when choosing sides for basketball." 27 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,844 ♪ And those whose names were never called ♪ 28 00:01:17,844 --> 00:01:21,281 ♪ When choosing sides for basketball ♪ 29 00:01:21,281 --> 00:01:25,218 - I was never picked, (laughs) any sports team. 30 00:01:26,453 --> 00:01:30,356 ♪ When dreams were all they gave for free ♪ 31 00:01:30,356 --> 00:01:34,494 ♪ To ugly duckling girls like me ♪ 32 00:01:35,728 --> 00:01:37,864 - I mean, I was that ugly duckling girl, (laughs) 33 00:01:37,864 --> 00:01:41,034 and so the song hit me pretty hard. 34 00:01:41,034 --> 00:01:44,537 ♪ Inventing lovers on the phone ♪ 35 00:01:44,537 --> 00:01:47,006 - The fact that Janis had such a huge hit 36 00:01:47,006 --> 00:01:51,511 and such an iconic impact with that song, 37 00:01:51,511 --> 00:01:54,814 I think, speaks to its universal relevance. 38 00:01:55,782 --> 00:01:58,751 (audience clapping)