1 00:00:00,866 --> 00:00:04,233 ♪ 2 00:00:04,233 --> 00:00:07,233 CORAL PEÑA: It's the second part of "Antiques Roadshow Recut" 3 00:00:07,233 --> 00:00:08,733 from Newport, Rhode Island. 4 00:00:08,733 --> 00:00:10,900 When I saw this... 5 00:00:10,900 --> 00:00:12,300 I was kind of excited. 6 00:00:12,300 --> 00:00:14,366 You're freakin' kidding me. (chuckles) 7 00:00:14,366 --> 00:00:15,833 PEÑA: Stay tuned for part two 8 00:00:15,833 --> 00:00:18,266 of "Antiques Roadshow Recut: Rosecliff." 9 00:00:18,266 --> 00:00:21,533 ♪ 10 00:00:36,333 --> 00:00:37,600 PEÑA: During the Gilded Age, 11 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:40,266 Newport was a hotspot for captains of industry 12 00:00:40,266 --> 00:00:43,200 and queens of high society to summer on seaside estates. 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:45,533 The impressive Rosecliff Mansion was such a place 14 00:00:45,533 --> 00:00:47,700 for heiress Tessie Oelrichs. 15 00:00:47,700 --> 00:00:49,866 Check out the treasures that made an impression 16 00:00:49,866 --> 00:00:53,033 on "Roadshow" experts at Rosecliff. 17 00:00:53,033 --> 00:00:55,066 MAN: My son and I go to auctions and estate sales 18 00:00:55,066 --> 00:00:56,500 looking for junk. 19 00:00:56,500 --> 00:00:57,866 It was a rainy morning, 20 00:00:57,866 --> 00:01:01,733 and there were box slats out on the grass of this auction. 21 00:01:01,733 --> 00:01:04,366 And, uh, nobody wanted to get their feet wet. 22 00:01:04,366 --> 00:01:07,433 We really didn't look in the box, you know, 23 00:01:07,433 --> 00:01:10,000 and, you know, the frame looked really nice, 24 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:13,500 so we ended up getting the box for $45. 25 00:01:13,500 --> 00:01:15,400 Now, the box was in the garage 26 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,300 drying out for a couple of days. Wow. 27 00:01:18,300 --> 00:01:21,700 And so my son got around to it, brought the box in. 28 00:01:21,700 --> 00:01:24,866 This was wrapped up with another one 29 00:01:24,866 --> 00:01:26,300 in very old Saran Wrap. 30 00:01:26,300 --> 00:01:28,700 This is exciting. 31 00:01:28,700 --> 00:01:30,233 It's a really beautiful example. 32 00:01:30,233 --> 00:01:31,366 You've seen the signature, 33 00:01:31,366 --> 00:01:33,133 you know the artist, Benny Andrews. 34 00:01:33,133 --> 00:01:35,900 Benny Andrews is a favorite artist of mine, 35 00:01:35,900 --> 00:01:40,066 an African-American artist who did incredible work. 36 00:01:40,066 --> 00:01:42,766 He's an expressive figurative artist 37 00:01:42,766 --> 00:01:44,800 working in the 1950s 38 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,766 until his passing in 2006. 39 00:01:46,766 --> 00:01:48,566 He was born in 1930. 40 00:01:48,566 --> 00:01:50,533 And what's striking about this painting 41 00:01:50,533 --> 00:01:54,366 is its beauty, its interest in nature, 42 00:01:54,366 --> 00:01:57,333 the yellow dress, the colors. 43 00:01:57,333 --> 00:01:59,366 He's known primarily as a New York artist, 44 00:01:59,366 --> 00:02:01,000 but he was born in Georgia. 45 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:02,966 A lot of his artwork that people know 46 00:02:02,966 --> 00:02:06,066 are images of the South from his childhood. 47 00:02:06,066 --> 00:02:08,933 He was a very enterprising, talented young artist. 48 00:02:08,933 --> 00:02:12,100 He studied at the Art Institute of Chicago in the 1950s, 49 00:02:12,100 --> 00:02:14,900 and moved to New York in 1958. 50 00:02:14,900 --> 00:02:16,533 And he was picked up by a gallery 51 00:02:16,533 --> 00:02:19,966 and had his first solo show in New York in 1962. 52 00:02:19,966 --> 00:02:21,133 Looks like oil with tempera. 53 00:02:21,133 --> 00:02:22,800 It's got a wonderful pattern. 54 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:24,133 It doesn't have his collage, 55 00:02:24,133 --> 00:02:27,033 which he's really known for in the late '60s, 56 00:02:27,033 --> 00:02:29,500 but it's got a lot going for it: 57 00:02:29,500 --> 00:02:33,666 the size, the early interest in color, the pattern. 58 00:02:33,666 --> 00:02:36,100 And probably another image from his childhood. 59 00:02:36,100 --> 00:02:37,700 We don't see many Benny Andrews 60 00:02:37,700 --> 00:02:40,233 from the early '60s, 61 00:02:40,233 --> 00:02:41,933 and most of those are works on paper. 62 00:02:41,933 --> 00:02:44,466 So this is a work on board, and it's a painting. 63 00:02:44,466 --> 00:02:46,366 This is a beautiful image. 64 00:02:46,366 --> 00:02:48,300 Of course, the woman in the yellow dress is, 65 00:02:48,300 --> 00:02:50,700 is a zinger-- it's, really draws your eye in. 66 00:02:50,700 --> 00:02:51,966 Few works like this 67 00:02:51,966 --> 00:02:53,166 have come to auction, 68 00:02:53,166 --> 00:02:55,166 but those that have have done well. 69 00:02:55,166 --> 00:02:56,900 Do you have any sense of what it might be worth? 70 00:02:56,900 --> 00:03:00,133 Well, my son's salivating. (chuckles) 71 00:03:00,133 --> 00:03:02,666 Online, asked about it, 72 00:03:02,666 --> 00:03:05,133 so I go, "I don't know, let's find out." 73 00:03:05,133 --> 00:03:07,700 I would put it at auction, conservatively, 74 00:03:07,700 --> 00:03:10,433 at $7,000 to $10,000. 75 00:03:10,433 --> 00:03:13,466 You're freakin' kidding me. (chuckles) 76 00:03:13,466 --> 00:03:17,566 All right, well, guess it's not going online. 77 00:03:17,566 --> 00:03:18,566 All right, cool. 78 00:03:18,566 --> 00:03:20,100 It's an amazing find. Right. 79 00:03:20,100 --> 00:03:21,300 Congratulations. Thank you. 80 00:03:21,300 --> 00:03:22,366 Thank you for bringing it in. 81 00:03:22,366 --> 00:03:23,733 I appreciate it. 82 00:03:25,500 --> 00:03:28,833 ♪ 83 00:03:28,833 --> 00:03:30,333 I found this in a trash heap 84 00:03:30,333 --> 00:03:32,933 in a basement where we were living, 85 00:03:32,933 --> 00:03:35,233 and it looked like somebody was throwing it away. 86 00:03:35,233 --> 00:03:37,433 I've been carrying it from place to place 87 00:03:37,433 --> 00:03:39,466 for the last 48 years. 88 00:03:39,466 --> 00:03:41,333 It was really tarnished, 89 00:03:41,333 --> 00:03:43,366 and I kind of went like this, 90 00:03:43,366 --> 00:03:45,733 and I saw that there was light, 91 00:03:45,733 --> 00:03:47,933 you know, like a silver spot. Mm-hmm. 92 00:03:47,933 --> 00:03:50,000 So I picked it up 93 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,133 and I have been using it as a champagne holder. 94 00:03:52,133 --> 00:03:54,033 Nice. 95 00:03:54,033 --> 00:03:55,433 (laughing) 96 00:03:55,433 --> 00:03:57,666 So whenever we have champagne, I bring it out 97 00:03:57,666 --> 00:03:59,033 like an ice bucket. 98 00:03:59,033 --> 00:04:01,166 Isaac Van Horn 99 00:04:01,166 --> 00:04:02,433 was a financier, 100 00:04:02,433 --> 00:04:04,600 and he started off in Nebraska as a grocer 101 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:07,066 before moving to Boston after he made his money. Uh-huh. 102 00:04:07,066 --> 00:04:08,433 And he became an investment banker. 103 00:04:08,433 --> 00:04:09,900 Oh. And he invested 104 00:04:09,900 --> 00:04:14,133 in the Laramie, Hahns Peak, and Pacific Railroad... Huh. 105 00:04:14,133 --> 00:04:16,933 That was built in Centennial, Wyoming, in 1907. 106 00:04:16,933 --> 00:04:18,066 Wow. 107 00:04:18,066 --> 00:04:20,100 So you've got this wonderful combination 108 00:04:20,100 --> 00:04:21,533 of railroad memorabilia... Yup. 109 00:04:21,533 --> 00:04:23,500 And then this wonderful trophy cup. 110 00:04:23,500 --> 00:04:25,266 So it was a gift basically from his investors. 111 00:04:25,266 --> 00:04:26,400 Yup. 112 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:27,633 Because he'd invested in this railroad. 113 00:04:27,633 --> 00:04:30,600 Oh. And it's actually made by Gorham, 114 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:32,066 which is right here... Which is in Connecticut. 115 00:04:32,066 --> 00:04:33,766 No, Providence, yeah. Providence? Oh, oh. 116 00:04:33,766 --> 00:04:35,233 So right there, we've got that mark, 117 00:04:35,233 --> 00:04:38,133 and it's a wonderful three-handle trophy cup. Mm-hmm . 118 00:04:38,133 --> 00:04:41,100 But I think champagne is an ideal use for it. 119 00:04:41,100 --> 00:04:42,833 It's made of sterling silver. Right. 120 00:04:42,833 --> 00:04:44,800 You can definitely clean it up, 121 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:45,833 maybe get it professionally polished. 122 00:04:45,833 --> 00:04:47,500 I think once you had it cleaned up, 123 00:04:47,500 --> 00:04:49,000 I'd expect it to sell for somewhere 124 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,166 between $1,500 and $2,500. 125 00:04:51,166 --> 00:04:52,766 Okay, great, thank you so much. 126 00:04:52,766 --> 00:04:54,133 All right? Yeah. 127 00:04:54,133 --> 00:04:55,500 And thanks for bringing it out on this wonderful day. 128 00:04:55,500 --> 00:04:58,100 It's been a wonderful experience, I love this. 129 00:04:58,100 --> 00:04:59,600 I've been wanting to do this for a long time, 130 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:00,733 so this is great. 131 00:05:00,733 --> 00:05:02,233 Well, fantastic-- thanks! 132 00:05:02,233 --> 00:05:03,933 ♪ 133 00:05:03,933 --> 00:05:05,633 PEÑA: Rosecliff's marble-like exterior 134 00:05:05,633 --> 00:05:08,166 is actually polychrome-glazed terra cotta. 135 00:05:08,166 --> 00:05:09,933 It was one of the first buildings in America 136 00:05:09,933 --> 00:05:11,733 to use the material. 137 00:05:11,733 --> 00:05:16,733 ♪ 138 00:05:16,733 --> 00:05:18,666 WOMAN: Well, this is my grandmother's table. 139 00:05:18,666 --> 00:05:20,200 She bought it in 1982. 140 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,466 She was always very interested in metalwork, 141 00:05:22,466 --> 00:05:23,900 so we weren't surprised 142 00:05:23,900 --> 00:05:27,766 when she sent my uncle down in his truck to New York City 143 00:05:27,766 --> 00:05:29,300 to pick up this table. 144 00:05:29,300 --> 00:05:30,933 We didn't really know much about it 145 00:05:30,933 --> 00:05:32,500 other than the fact that it was, at one point, 146 00:05:32,500 --> 00:05:33,800 buried in dirt. 147 00:05:33,800 --> 00:05:36,833 We did a little research and found out that it was made 148 00:05:36,833 --> 00:05:39,466 by the LaVerne Studios? 149 00:05:39,466 --> 00:05:41,066 And how much did she pay for it, do you recall? 150 00:05:41,066 --> 00:05:42,700 $6,000. $6,000. 151 00:05:42,700 --> 00:05:44,433 Yes. So, in 1982, 152 00:05:44,433 --> 00:05:47,733 this table would have probably retailed for more than that. 153 00:05:47,733 --> 00:05:50,766 They probably actually got a good price at $6,000, 154 00:05:50,766 --> 00:05:51,533 believe it or not. 155 00:05:51,533 --> 00:05:53,133 Yeah, she did mention 156 00:05:53,133 --> 00:05:54,900 that because she didn't use a designer, 157 00:05:54,900 --> 00:05:56,133 that they took $4,000 158 00:05:56,133 --> 00:05:57,866 off the price of the table 159 00:05:57,866 --> 00:05:59,533 because she purchased it directly. 160 00:05:59,533 --> 00:06:00,733 Right. 161 00:06:00,733 --> 00:06:02,533 In the '80s, this company had already 162 00:06:02,533 --> 00:06:05,133 been producing these tables for about 15 or 20 years. 163 00:06:05,133 --> 00:06:07,366 So in 1982, it was probably brand-new. 164 00:06:07,366 --> 00:06:11,733 My information says that these were about $10,000 retail 165 00:06:11,733 --> 00:06:13,033 at that time. 166 00:06:13,033 --> 00:06:14,800 By the mid-1980s, 167 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,066 the design team of Philip and Kelvin LaVerne-- 168 00:06:18,066 --> 00:06:20,633 a father-and-son team in New York-- 169 00:06:20,633 --> 00:06:22,500 were very well-known. 170 00:06:22,500 --> 00:06:25,633 They were highly prized works 171 00:06:25,633 --> 00:06:27,333 that were sold through decorators, 172 00:06:27,333 --> 00:06:30,700 through high-end design shops, and, of course, 173 00:06:30,700 --> 00:06:32,866 you can buy them directly from the LaVernes 174 00:06:32,866 --> 00:06:34,566 if you knew somebody. 175 00:06:34,566 --> 00:06:36,200 (chuckling): Right. It's made out of bronze 176 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:39,366 with a proprietary process that Philip and Kelvin LaVerne 177 00:06:39,366 --> 00:06:41,066 were able to make 178 00:06:41,066 --> 00:06:44,866 by etching these bronze plates 179 00:06:44,866 --> 00:06:46,633 and attaching them 180 00:06:46,633 --> 00:06:48,100 to a substructure. 181 00:06:48,100 --> 00:06:50,466 In this case, to a scroll shape, 182 00:06:50,466 --> 00:06:53,466 but the same pattern here, called the marriage whirl, 183 00:06:53,466 --> 00:06:57,100 would've been used on consoles, end tables, 184 00:06:57,100 --> 00:06:59,533 various other types of furniture. 185 00:06:59,533 --> 00:07:02,900 The LaVernes took their objects 186 00:07:02,900 --> 00:07:06,333 and would actually bury them in a proprietary mix of soil 187 00:07:06,333 --> 00:07:08,066 to give it a patina. 188 00:07:08,066 --> 00:07:09,900 Your example is 189 00:07:09,900 --> 00:07:11,266 in really beautiful condition. 190 00:07:11,266 --> 00:07:12,666 There's no heavy scratches, dents. 191 00:07:12,666 --> 00:07:17,366 I think that if this came up in a well-publicized auction, 192 00:07:17,366 --> 00:07:20,933 it would probably sell for between $15,000 and $20,000. 193 00:07:22,233 --> 00:07:24,266 Well, that's... that's really good. 194 00:07:24,266 --> 00:07:25,300 (laughs) 195 00:07:25,300 --> 00:07:26,800 I'm just a little stunned. 196 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:27,800 (laughs) 197 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,800 Very good. Yeah. 198 00:07:35,433 --> 00:07:37,466 APPRAISER: The mountings are in incredible condition, 199 00:07:37,466 --> 00:07:39,733 fantastic filigree work on the edges, 200 00:07:39,733 --> 00:07:41,166 stones were simulated. 201 00:07:41,166 --> 00:07:43,066 I would appraise these retail 202 00:07:43,066 --> 00:07:46,000 at about $750 each. Oh, okay. 203 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:47,633 They are wonderful. Great. 204 00:07:47,633 --> 00:07:50,200 I did find quite a few plaques similar to this-- 205 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:53,733 but not exactly like it, but similar in size... Uh-huh. 206 00:07:53,733 --> 00:07:55,533 And of course, the same subject. 207 00:07:55,533 --> 00:07:56,766 And they all seem to be selling 208 00:07:56,766 --> 00:07:58,400 for around $150 to $250. 209 00:07:58,400 --> 00:07:59,566 Oh, okay, wow. 210 00:07:59,566 --> 00:08:01,166 I don't know that you'll ever figure out 211 00:08:01,166 --> 00:08:02,333 who the artist is, though. 212 00:08:02,333 --> 00:08:04,133 Right-- isn't that interesting? 213 00:08:05,633 --> 00:08:07,633 PEÑA: One of Rosecliff's most impressive features 214 00:08:07,633 --> 00:08:10,266 is the unique "sweetheart" staircase, 215 00:08:10,266 --> 00:08:15,000 limestone stairs with a grand heart-shaped opening. 216 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:16,466 Well, the history of the family goes, 217 00:08:16,466 --> 00:08:19,133 it came down through my great-great-uncle, 218 00:08:19,133 --> 00:08:21,066 and my, it was passed on to me from my grandfather. 219 00:08:21,066 --> 00:08:24,500 This is actually a Zulu dance spear, 220 00:08:24,500 --> 00:08:27,066 and there're some elements that are really cool. 221 00:08:27,066 --> 00:08:29,266 This is horn here, 222 00:08:29,266 --> 00:08:32,033 and these little dots are actually bone. 223 00:08:32,033 --> 00:08:34,166 Down here we have the same inlay. 224 00:08:34,166 --> 00:08:36,500 This is really a terrific example. 225 00:08:36,500 --> 00:08:39,933 I think this easily could be mid-19th century, 226 00:08:39,933 --> 00:08:41,433 so 1850 at the earliest. 227 00:08:41,433 --> 00:08:42,900 Oh, wow-- it's older than I thought. 228 00:08:42,900 --> 00:08:48,033 And at a good auction, I would say $800 to $1,200. 229 00:08:48,033 --> 00:08:49,433 Oh, wow, excellent! 230 00:08:52,133 --> 00:08:56,533 ♪ 231 00:08:56,533 --> 00:09:02,366 You got it from your parents, masted ship, American flag. 232 00:09:02,366 --> 00:09:03,800 The artist, Reuben Chappell, 233 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:04,800 is a British artist. 234 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,066 It's a great painting. 235 00:09:06,066 --> 00:09:07,166 It's a great maritime painting. 236 00:09:07,166 --> 00:09:09,466 Is it presently insured? 237 00:09:09,466 --> 00:09:11,066 If you say it should be, it will be. 238 00:09:11,066 --> 00:09:13,766 WOMAN: It's been in our family for so long... 239 00:09:13,766 --> 00:09:15,500 I mean, generation after generation, 240 00:09:15,500 --> 00:09:17,133 and it's been in all our drugstores 241 00:09:17,133 --> 00:09:18,666 that our family's owned, so... 242 00:09:18,666 --> 00:09:22,000 1690, in this condition, 243 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,800 you're probably talking in the $500 range. 244 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:25,966 Oh, okay. 245 00:09:25,966 --> 00:09:27,966 Probably half the medicines would kill you 246 00:09:27,966 --> 00:09:30,433 far quicker than anything else. 247 00:09:30,433 --> 00:09:33,066 APPRAISER: This is part of an 1860 naval cutlass. 248 00:09:33,066 --> 00:09:35,300 It originally would have had a leather scabbard 249 00:09:35,300 --> 00:09:36,600 with copper rivets all the way down the back. 250 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:38,066 Okay. 251 00:09:38,066 --> 00:09:39,666 It's missing the scabbard, it's missing the hand guard, 252 00:09:39,666 --> 00:09:42,266 so it's probably worth about $70, $75. 253 00:09:47,433 --> 00:09:50,800 Well, my aunt, when she passed, left a few things, 254 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:52,300 and each of her nieces and nephews 255 00:09:52,300 --> 00:09:53,866 were allowed to select some things. 256 00:09:53,866 --> 00:09:56,166 I loved them because they, they're mechanical, 257 00:09:56,166 --> 00:09:57,366 and you wind them up, 258 00:09:57,366 --> 00:09:59,066 and then different things happen in each one of them, 259 00:09:59,066 --> 00:10:00,733 so, that was why 260 00:10:00,733 --> 00:10:01,800 I have always been fascinated by them 261 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:02,833 and just wanted to know a little bit more. 262 00:10:02,833 --> 00:10:06,333 They are made by Henry Dankner & Sons. 263 00:10:06,333 --> 00:10:09,066 They were a family that had escaped Nazi Hungary. 264 00:10:09,066 --> 00:10:10,533 Oh, wow. 265 00:10:10,533 --> 00:10:13,700 Re-established in the New York jewelry market in the 1950s, 266 00:10:13,700 --> 00:10:17,533 and filed a patent for these in 1965. 267 00:10:17,533 --> 00:10:19,233 Which is your favorite? 268 00:10:19,233 --> 00:10:20,866 You know, I kind of loved the heart, 269 00:10:20,866 --> 00:10:22,566 which goes up and down when you wind it. 270 00:10:22,566 --> 00:10:26,200 Can you show me how it works? And then... Sure. 271 00:10:29,900 --> 00:10:31,666 Wow. And this one, I think, 272 00:10:31,666 --> 00:10:33,533 has the most motion in it with the, with the horses. 273 00:10:33,533 --> 00:10:36,566 It's a great collection that's enough to make 274 00:10:36,566 --> 00:10:39,500 an instant bracelet for somebody. (laughs) 275 00:10:39,500 --> 00:10:41,033 And if they were coming to auction, 276 00:10:41,033 --> 00:10:42,800 I believe they would do an auction estimate 277 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:44,700 of $4,000 to $8,000. 278 00:10:44,700 --> 00:10:46,733 Oh, my goodness, wow. 279 00:10:46,733 --> 00:10:48,366 Wow, thanks, Aunt Alice. 280 00:10:48,366 --> 00:10:49,733 That's great. 281 00:10:49,733 --> 00:10:52,733 ♪ 282 00:10:52,733 --> 00:10:55,333 PEÑA: Many of the furnishings at Rosecliff today, 283 00:10:55,333 --> 00:10:57,933 including this late-17th-century tapestry 284 00:10:57,933 --> 00:10:59,966 depicting the Wedding of Andromeda, 285 00:10:59,966 --> 00:11:03,066 were owned by the estate's last private owners. 286 00:11:06,466 --> 00:11:08,400 My grandmother passed away recently, 287 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:10,233 and I found it in her attic. 288 00:11:10,233 --> 00:11:13,233 She didn't do any extensive traveling in Asia 289 00:11:13,233 --> 00:11:14,466 that I'm aware of, 290 00:11:14,466 --> 00:11:18,033 but I think her parents may have at some point. 291 00:11:18,033 --> 00:11:19,533 So did you know that the robe was Chinese? 292 00:11:19,533 --> 00:11:21,166 I had a feeling. 293 00:11:21,166 --> 00:11:22,200 Well, it's Chinese, 294 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:24,033 and it's actually kind of unusual 295 00:11:24,033 --> 00:11:25,766 because of a number of different features. 296 00:11:25,766 --> 00:11:27,466 One, it's for a child. 297 00:11:27,466 --> 00:11:28,633 Okay. 298 00:11:28,633 --> 00:11:30,333 But the child was also probably a eunuch. 299 00:11:30,333 --> 00:11:31,466 Oh, really? 300 00:11:31,466 --> 00:11:32,900 And a servant in the palace. Mm-hmm. 301 00:11:32,900 --> 00:11:35,100 These robes are pretty standardized 302 00:11:35,100 --> 00:11:38,666 from the 17th century to the 20th century, 303 00:11:38,666 --> 00:11:40,066 but certain things change, 304 00:11:40,066 --> 00:11:41,633 and one of the things that change 305 00:11:41,633 --> 00:11:44,666 is this area in the robe, on the bottom. 306 00:11:44,666 --> 00:11:46,366 It's called lishui. 307 00:11:46,366 --> 00:11:48,700 Later on, into the 20th century, 308 00:11:48,700 --> 00:11:51,466 this gets longer and longer and longer, 309 00:11:51,466 --> 00:11:52,966 and one of the reasons why, 310 00:11:52,966 --> 00:11:56,100 it was the easiest part of the robe to embroider. Mm-hmm. 311 00:11:56,100 --> 00:11:58,566 So, basically, they were cost-cutting on it. 312 00:11:58,566 --> 00:12:00,433 The motif on the bottom 313 00:12:00,433 --> 00:12:03,000 actually represents the firmament, 314 00:12:03,000 --> 00:12:06,166 and then the dragons are all couched in gold thread. Mm-hmm. 315 00:12:06,166 --> 00:12:08,266 And that gold thread was gold leaf 316 00:12:08,266 --> 00:12:10,433 that was actually wrapped around threads 317 00:12:10,433 --> 00:12:12,600 and used for the embroidery. 318 00:12:12,600 --> 00:12:14,966 There are these round figures with the flames, 319 00:12:14,966 --> 00:12:17,733 and those are celestial pearls, 320 00:12:17,733 --> 00:12:19,933 and there are bats on the robe, too, 321 00:12:19,933 --> 00:12:21,400 but bats just mean prosperity. 322 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,133 The robe is silk, 323 00:12:23,133 --> 00:12:24,800 the embroidery is also silk. 324 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:28,266 At this period of time, which was about the 1850s, 325 00:12:28,266 --> 00:12:30,733 there were just a huge quantity of people 326 00:12:30,733 --> 00:12:33,133 attending, basically, the emperor's every needs. 327 00:12:33,133 --> 00:12:34,266 And it was people like this 328 00:12:34,266 --> 00:12:37,400 that were doing the clean-up work. Sure. 329 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:38,466 Even in these robes. 330 00:12:38,466 --> 00:12:39,700 At auction, 331 00:12:39,700 --> 00:12:41,666 I would expect this robe to sell for around $2,000. 332 00:12:41,666 --> 00:12:44,333 Wow, great. 333 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:55,233 ♪ 334 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:00,633 APPRAISER: This would've had a handle. WOMAN: Yeah. 335 00:13:00,633 --> 00:13:02,366 So which, if you would heat it up first of all, 336 00:13:02,366 --> 00:13:04,533 because this big, thick slab of iron, 337 00:13:04,533 --> 00:13:06,266 it would've maintained that heat for a long, long time. 338 00:13:06,266 --> 00:13:07,766 So you could have used it and used it, 339 00:13:07,766 --> 00:13:09,366 and then when you were finished, you could knock it off, 340 00:13:09,366 --> 00:13:11,200 you could grab another one if you had that going, 341 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:12,900 and you could interchange the handles. 342 00:13:12,900 --> 00:13:14,100 Okay. 343 00:13:14,100 --> 00:13:16,133 So date-wise, turn of the 19th century. 344 00:13:16,133 --> 00:13:18,900 In a local shop, that's maybe $15, okay? 345 00:13:18,900 --> 00:13:20,000 Okay, good. 346 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,466 This was my, at my grandmother's house. 347 00:13:22,466 --> 00:13:23,833 I'm not sure if she owned it 348 00:13:23,833 --> 00:13:26,100 or if it was left at the house from previous owners, 349 00:13:26,100 --> 00:13:28,100 but I grew up with it, always staring at it, 350 00:13:28,100 --> 00:13:29,933 and I'm curious to see if it's worth anything today. 351 00:13:29,933 --> 00:13:31,866 It's a porcelain or china cat, 352 00:13:31,866 --> 00:13:33,133 it's got a stamp from England, 353 00:13:33,133 --> 00:13:34,433 and that's about all I know. 354 00:13:34,433 --> 00:13:36,666 APPRAISER: Stylistically, the china-painted stuff 355 00:13:36,666 --> 00:13:38,433 tends to be more Victorian or Art Nouveau. 356 00:13:38,433 --> 00:13:40,933 Stylistically, it's not a turn-of-the-century design. Right. 357 00:13:40,933 --> 00:13:44,200 So it's a black Japanese Satsuma piece 358 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:46,233 that was sent here and then decorated here. 359 00:13:46,233 --> 00:13:48,500 Her name is Clotilde. 360 00:13:48,500 --> 00:13:50,900 She was purchased in France 361 00:13:50,900 --> 00:13:53,800 when my great-great-grandmother 362 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,600 had traveled on a European tour, 363 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:59,166 and she gave it to her daughter, 364 00:13:59,166 --> 00:14:01,100 my great-grandmother, 365 00:14:01,100 --> 00:14:04,400 who, in the picture, is holding the doll. 366 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,900 What we're looking at is a doll made 367 00:14:06,900 --> 00:14:09,233 by Leontine Rohmer. 368 00:14:09,233 --> 00:14:13,666 She was a very prolific French doll-maker, 369 00:14:13,666 --> 00:14:17,033 and it was an interesting that a woman at that time 370 00:14:17,033 --> 00:14:20,033 could run an entire business. 371 00:14:20,033 --> 00:14:22,866 The doll is made of porcelain. 372 00:14:22,866 --> 00:14:26,233 This type of porcelain that's glazed on a white background, 373 00:14:26,233 --> 00:14:27,800 we call that china. 374 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:29,633 The shoulders are the same material, 375 00:14:29,633 --> 00:14:32,166 the arms are the same material, 376 00:14:32,166 --> 00:14:34,866 the body is of kid leather. 377 00:14:34,866 --> 00:14:36,966 It would have a mark 378 00:14:36,966 --> 00:14:39,900 in this area of the chest, of the leather. 379 00:14:39,900 --> 00:14:42,733 I looked and the mark has worn away, 380 00:14:42,733 --> 00:14:43,900 it's no longer there, 381 00:14:43,900 --> 00:14:46,066 but it would be a green stamp 382 00:14:46,066 --> 00:14:48,933 that said, "Mademoiselle Rohmer." 383 00:14:48,933 --> 00:14:51,100 This is a very early doll, 384 00:14:51,100 --> 00:14:55,733 probably in the 1860s that this doll was made. 385 00:14:55,733 --> 00:14:59,833 And it has her original dress, original underwear. 386 00:14:59,833 --> 00:15:02,766 Also, sitting on the table here 387 00:15:02,766 --> 00:15:04,500 is her original hoop skirt. Mm-hmm. 388 00:15:04,500 --> 00:15:09,266 She does have a bit of damage that goes up her cheek, 389 00:15:09,266 --> 00:15:10,833 up to the eye. Mm-hmm. 390 00:15:10,833 --> 00:15:12,966 That can be repaired. Mm-hmm. 391 00:15:12,966 --> 00:15:16,666 It would cost about $250 or $300. 392 00:15:16,666 --> 00:15:19,566 But it, it would help the value of the doll. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. 393 00:15:19,566 --> 00:15:21,600 But as the doll sits today, 394 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:25,666 she would sell for $2,500 retail. 395 00:15:25,666 --> 00:15:26,866 Oh, my goodness. 396 00:15:26,866 --> 00:15:29,566 If you had the repair done on the cheek, 397 00:15:29,566 --> 00:15:34,033 it would raise the price to $3,500. 398 00:15:34,033 --> 00:15:36,266 That's not what we expected at all. 399 00:15:36,266 --> 00:15:37,700 (laughing) 400 00:15:37,700 --> 00:15:39,033 It was worth waiting for, that... 401 00:15:39,033 --> 00:15:41,233 Yes, it was, it was. 402 00:15:43,033 --> 00:15:44,966 PEÑA: The mansion itself reportedly cost 403 00:15:44,966 --> 00:15:49,333 about $2.5 million to build at the turn of the 20th century. 404 00:15:49,333 --> 00:15:53,766 That was over $60 million in 2018. 405 00:15:53,766 --> 00:15:55,233 WOMAN: During the Depression, 406 00:15:55,233 --> 00:16:00,333 my aunt was, started buying up these vases from Tiffany's, 407 00:16:00,333 --> 00:16:02,366 so I guess she ordered some by the crate-load. 408 00:16:02,366 --> 00:16:03,566 It actually says, 409 00:16:03,566 --> 00:16:07,566 "Louis C. Tiffany Studios," with an address. 410 00:16:07,566 --> 00:16:08,833 The crate in itself, 411 00:16:08,833 --> 00:16:10,000 it's something you don't see very often, 412 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,900 with "glass" plastered all over the sides. 413 00:16:12,900 --> 00:16:15,466 But I also want to point out the straw. 414 00:16:15,466 --> 00:16:17,100 (chuckles) Because it's not often 415 00:16:17,100 --> 00:16:18,766 that people keep the shipping crates. 416 00:16:18,766 --> 00:16:20,900 The first piece of glass over here, 417 00:16:20,900 --> 00:16:24,466 which is what we would call pastel glass... Mm-hmm. 418 00:16:24,466 --> 00:16:27,900 Is later-production Tiffany-- it was made in the '20s. Okay. 419 00:16:27,900 --> 00:16:29,866 It was made in multiples, 420 00:16:29,866 --> 00:16:31,400 and it came in different colors. 421 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:32,800 These are the colors that you see 422 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:34,466 in some of the Depression glass of the era... Mm-hmm. 423 00:16:34,466 --> 00:16:36,833 But this was a lot more expensive 424 00:16:36,833 --> 00:16:39,533 than your average piece of Depression glass. 425 00:16:39,533 --> 00:16:41,266 Now, this piece 426 00:16:41,266 --> 00:16:44,100 is a paperweight glass vase. Mm-hmm. 427 00:16:44,100 --> 00:16:48,300 Leslie Nash, who worked for Louis Comfort Tiffany, 428 00:16:48,300 --> 00:16:52,366 claims that while they were working with paperweight glass, 429 00:16:52,366 --> 00:16:54,500 Louis Tiffany himself, who was a painter, 430 00:16:54,500 --> 00:16:57,233 came into the glass-working shop, 431 00:16:57,233 --> 00:17:00,233 handed them a painting of morning glories 432 00:17:00,233 --> 00:17:02,133 that he had painted, and said, 433 00:17:02,133 --> 00:17:04,166 "I want you to make this in glass." Wow. 434 00:17:04,166 --> 00:17:10,000 Supposedly, it took $12,000 in R&D... 435 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:10,966 Mm-hmm. 436 00:17:10,966 --> 00:17:13,366 to create this kind of glassware. 437 00:17:13,366 --> 00:17:15,833 1914 is when they first introduced it. 438 00:17:15,833 --> 00:17:19,966 Your piece, on the bottom, 439 00:17:19,966 --> 00:17:21,900 actually says "exhibition piece" on it. 440 00:17:21,900 --> 00:17:23,666 I know from the date letter, 441 00:17:23,666 --> 00:17:26,300 which is a suffix L, 442 00:17:26,300 --> 00:17:29,500 that that would be somewhere around 1915. Okay. 443 00:17:29,500 --> 00:17:31,566 So it's possible that this could've gone 444 00:17:31,566 --> 00:17:35,766 to the 1915 San Francisco International Exhibition. 445 00:17:35,766 --> 00:17:37,766 I think it came back to the studios, 446 00:17:37,766 --> 00:17:39,133 that's the interesting part. 447 00:17:39,133 --> 00:17:40,900 You may have seen vases like this. 448 00:17:40,900 --> 00:17:43,933 They're in many museums all over the world. 449 00:17:43,933 --> 00:17:45,966 I think I saw one at the Met in New York, mm-hmm. 450 00:17:45,966 --> 00:17:49,933 Yes, and the one at the Met has a number on the bottom, 451 00:17:49,933 --> 00:17:52,166 which is 1130-L. 452 00:17:52,166 --> 00:17:53,933 Yours is 1132-L. 453 00:17:53,933 --> 00:17:55,633 Oh. 454 00:17:55,633 --> 00:17:57,933 So this is two numbers after the Met's vase. Okay. 455 00:17:57,933 --> 00:18:01,033 The Met acquired it in 1924, 456 00:18:01,033 --> 00:18:03,700 even though it was probably made in 1915. 457 00:18:03,700 --> 00:18:05,833 So these things still were sold later. 458 00:18:05,833 --> 00:18:08,733 The crate, in a retail setting, 459 00:18:08,733 --> 00:18:11,500 this is something for Tiffany geeks everywhere-- 460 00:18:11,500 --> 00:18:13,833 collectors, museums. 461 00:18:13,833 --> 00:18:15,900 They would actually be very excited about this, 462 00:18:15,900 --> 00:18:18,566 and it would be worth between $5,000 and $10,000. 463 00:18:18,566 --> 00:18:20,566 Holy cow! 464 00:18:20,566 --> 00:18:24,466 This piece, which is not as sought-after 465 00:18:24,466 --> 00:18:26,966 as some of the other art glass... Mm-hmm. 466 00:18:26,966 --> 00:18:31,800 would retail probably between $2,000 and $3,000. 467 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:33,400 But this piece, 468 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,466 in a retail shop, it could be sold 469 00:18:35,466 --> 00:18:40,033 for anywhere between $50,000 and $75,000. 470 00:18:40,033 --> 00:18:41,166 No way! 471 00:18:41,166 --> 00:18:42,700 Oh, my gosh! 472 00:18:42,700 --> 00:18:44,600 I was... 473 00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:49,300 thinking maybe $8,000 to $10,000, I was hoping. 474 00:18:49,300 --> 00:18:50,466 Wow. 475 00:18:50,466 --> 00:18:52,566 Well, that was a long time ago. 476 00:18:52,566 --> 00:18:55,333 Wow, I really didn't know what the market had done, 477 00:18:55,333 --> 00:18:57,966 you know, if it had gone sideways or up or down, 478 00:18:57,966 --> 00:19:00,133 but... wow. (inhales) 479 00:19:00,133 --> 00:19:03,400 So there's one other thing in here 480 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:04,900 that I want to talk about. 481 00:19:07,166 --> 00:19:08,633 This vase. 482 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:10,933 This practically 483 00:19:10,933 --> 00:19:12,333 stopped my heart 484 00:19:12,333 --> 00:19:14,733 when I saw it in the box. (giggling) 485 00:19:14,733 --> 00:19:17,266 This is the piece I was waiting for 486 00:19:17,266 --> 00:19:18,300 for 20 years. 487 00:19:18,300 --> 00:19:19,533 Oh, wow. 488 00:19:19,533 --> 00:19:21,833 And every night before the Roadshow, 489 00:19:21,833 --> 00:19:24,766 people would always say, "What is on your wish list? 490 00:19:24,766 --> 00:19:27,233 What would you like to come in to the show tomorrow?" 491 00:19:27,233 --> 00:19:28,400 And I always say, 492 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,800 "A Tiffany Lava vase." Wow. 493 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,566 And that's what this is. 494 00:19:32,566 --> 00:19:35,533 It's extremely special. 495 00:19:35,533 --> 00:19:39,166 It is meant to look like molten lava... Mm-hmm. 496 00:19:39,166 --> 00:19:40,966 on the surface of the vase, 497 00:19:40,966 --> 00:19:43,800 and this one is particularly interesting 498 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:47,366 because you also have these protrusions here. 499 00:19:47,366 --> 00:19:51,500 It's very similar to a vase that was shown 500 00:19:51,500 --> 00:19:55,500 in the 1906 Paris Salon Exhibition. Oh! 501 00:19:55,500 --> 00:19:59,500 A very similar example is in the collection 502 00:19:59,500 --> 00:20:01,933 of the Musée des Arts Décoratifs in Paris, 503 00:20:01,933 --> 00:20:05,733 and it's been there since 1906. 504 00:20:05,733 --> 00:20:07,333 Gee. 505 00:20:07,333 --> 00:20:11,300 So when I saw this... I was kind of excited. 506 00:20:11,300 --> 00:20:12,566 (laughing) Oh. 507 00:20:12,566 --> 00:20:15,166 The thing about Lava is, it was very hard to make. 508 00:20:15,166 --> 00:20:18,133 They get cracked in the making. Oh. 509 00:20:18,133 --> 00:20:19,600 And I did go over your Lava 510 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:22,400 with my special light and a magnifying glass, 511 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,900 and I couldn't find any imperfections. 512 00:20:24,900 --> 00:20:28,033 An example like this, in a retail shop, 513 00:20:28,033 --> 00:20:30,833 could sell between $100,000 and $150,000. 514 00:20:30,833 --> 00:20:33,833 (laughing) 515 00:20:33,833 --> 00:20:35,233 Where's my brother? He... 516 00:20:35,233 --> 00:20:36,666 (laughs) 517 00:20:36,666 --> 00:20:38,066 Wow. 518 00:20:38,066 --> 00:20:39,500 That's unbelievable. 519 00:20:39,500 --> 00:20:42,833 I had no idea. 520 00:20:42,833 --> 00:20:44,300 I just can't believe that your aunt 521 00:20:44,300 --> 00:20:45,633 bought all of this 522 00:20:45,633 --> 00:20:47,566 in the late '20s and the early '30s. Yeah. 523 00:20:47,566 --> 00:20:50,866 It's... it's pretty remarkable. 524 00:20:50,866 --> 00:20:51,800 PEÑA: You're watching the second part 525 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,100 WOMAN: I bought this about a year ago 526 00:20:53,100 --> 00:20:54,433 from a local dealer. Let's check it out on the back. 527 00:20:54,433 --> 00:20:56,600 Sure. 528 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:58,700 So it's relatively rare 529 00:20:58,700 --> 00:21:01,000 to find furniture with signatures on it, 530 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,700 and your chair has two. 531 00:21:02,700 --> 00:21:05,366 One of them is a decal label 532 00:21:05,366 --> 00:21:08,066 from the L. & J.G. Stickley Furniture Company. 533 00:21:08,066 --> 00:21:10,700 The label that's on it is this rectangular shape. 534 00:21:10,700 --> 00:21:11,933 Right. 535 00:21:11,933 --> 00:21:15,200 Which means that it was made between 1912 and 1920. 536 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:18,133 And it also is stamped "Breakers Cottages." Yes, yes. 537 00:21:18,133 --> 00:21:20,033 Which probably was not done 538 00:21:20,033 --> 00:21:21,666 by the Stickley Company themselves, 539 00:21:21,666 --> 00:21:26,600 but probably from either the preservation society 540 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,566 once they took over the Breakers, 541 00:21:28,566 --> 00:21:31,333 or the Vanderbilt family themselves. 542 00:21:31,333 --> 00:21:33,766 Of course, Cornelius Vanderbilt built it, 543 00:21:33,766 --> 00:21:35,700 but he furnished his home 544 00:21:35,700 --> 00:21:39,800 with really fanciful European furniture. 545 00:21:39,800 --> 00:21:43,300 And this was an oak, pretty pedestrian piece. 546 00:21:43,300 --> 00:21:44,933 That's what confused me a little bit. 547 00:21:44,933 --> 00:21:47,166 Yes, I am guessing that this probably came out 548 00:21:47,166 --> 00:21:49,366 of either the servants' quarters or... 549 00:21:49,366 --> 00:21:51,433 It was a utilitarian piece, 550 00:21:51,433 --> 00:21:55,500 because by the time this was made in 1912 to '20, 551 00:21:55,500 --> 00:21:58,500 it wasn't made by Gustav Stickley, 552 00:21:58,500 --> 00:22:01,000 the grandfather of the Arts and Crafts movement-- 553 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,766 he made very expensive furniture. 554 00:22:02,766 --> 00:22:05,066 His brothers then went on 555 00:22:05,066 --> 00:22:07,766 to make a little more pedestrian furniture... Okay. 556 00:22:07,766 --> 00:22:08,966 More affordable. 557 00:22:08,966 --> 00:22:10,500 Any idea of its value, or...? 558 00:22:10,500 --> 00:22:12,600 I paid $750 for it. 559 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,366 Well, I would probably insure this 560 00:22:14,366 --> 00:22:16,500 in the range of $800 to $1,200. 561 00:22:16,500 --> 00:22:18,000 Oh, great, great. Yeah. 562 00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,166 It's a connection between the Arts and Crafts movement 563 00:22:20,166 --> 00:22:22,866 and one of the grand homes here in Newport. 564 00:22:22,866 --> 00:22:24,966 Oh, thank you. 565 00:22:24,966 --> 00:22:26,133 PEÑA: Thanks for watching. 566 00:22:26,133 --> 00:22:27,666 Tune in again for another great episode 567 00:22:27,666 --> 00:22:28,966 of "Antiques Roadshow Recut."