WEBVTT 00:00.833 --> 00:03.466 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% ♪ ♪ 00:05.200 --> 00:08.166 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5% APPRAISER: I've been doing the Antiques Roadshow for 12 years. 00:08.166 --> 00:11.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% This is one of the few authentic masks I've found. 00:11.133 --> 00:12.700 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50% (hisses) 00:12.700 --> 00:14.933 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% (laughing): That's amazing. 00:14.933 --> 00:16.566 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% (laughing): Oh, my goodness. 00:16.566 --> 00:17.800 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% Oh, my goodness! 00:20.133 --> 00:25.000 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% ♪ ♪ 00:36.200 --> 00:37.566 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% CORAL PEÑA: Back in 2007, 00:37.566 --> 00:39.300 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% "Antiques Roadshow" kicked off the season 00:39.300 --> 00:40.966 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% with our second visit to Baltimore, Maryland, 00:40.966 --> 00:43.600 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% where many wonderful treasures had been hiding. 00:43.600 --> 00:44.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% It's a lovely desk, 00:44.833 --> 00:46.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% but you found something in the desk. 00:46.400 --> 00:47.600 align:left position:62.5% line:89% size:27.5% Yes, I did. 00:47.600 --> 00:49.833 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% When I was cleaning it out to bring it, 00:49.833 --> 00:52.433 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% I found this envelope. 00:52.433 --> 00:53.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I have to tell you, 00:53.700 --> 00:55.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% in the ten years I've been doing "Antiques Roadshow," 00:55.833 --> 00:57.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% these are the finest things I've ever seen. 00:57.366 --> 00:59.400 align:left position:15% line:71% size:75% Really? Oh, I'm so thrilled. Yeah, they're absolutely beautiful. 00:59.400 --> 01:00.833 align:left position:50% line:89% size:40% I'm so thrilled. 01:00.833 --> 01:02.400 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% PEÑA: What did our guests uncover? 01:02.400 --> 01:04.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And what is it all worth today? 01:04.533 --> 01:07.666 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% You'll find out in the first hour of "Vintage Baltimore." 01:09.733 --> 01:12.266 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% This desk belonged to my grandmother. 01:12.266 --> 01:14.900 align:left position:47.5% line:5% size:42.5% I can remember it when I was a little kid, 01:14.900 --> 01:19.033 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% and I just always admired it. 01:19.033 --> 01:21.633 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% And now it's mine, and I treasure it very much. 01:21.633 --> 01:22.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% It's a lovely desk. 01:22.600 --> 01:24.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% You brought it here to the Roadshow, 01:24.500 --> 01:25.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and did you find anything interesting about it? 01:25.900 --> 01:27.200 align:left position:52.5% line:89% size:37.5% Well, actually, 01:27.200 --> 01:32.233 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% I learned that it's not as rare as I had thought. 01:32.233 --> 01:33.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% But you found something in the desk. 01:33.500 --> 01:34.633 align:left position:62.5% line:89% size:27.5% Yes, I did. 01:34.633 --> 01:37.666 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% When I was cleaning it out to bring it, 01:37.666 --> 01:41.400 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% I found this envelope that contained 01:41.400 --> 01:44.533 align:left position:60% line:83% size:30% an old photo of a sports team. 01:44.533 --> 01:47.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's an old Western Union telegraph envelope, 01:47.533 --> 01:51.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and it says "Chicago Ball Team 1885." 01:51.000 --> 01:55.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And this was your grandfather's handwriting, I assume? 01:55.333 --> 01:58.633 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% No, it-- actually, it's my great-grandfather. 01:58.633 --> 02:00.900 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Well, why don't we take a look at what's in the envelope? 02:02.600 --> 02:03.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And we see it's a souvenir. 02:03.700 --> 02:07.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% "Dedication of the Chicago Ball Park, 02:07.333 --> 02:10.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Saturday, June 6, 1885." 02:10.166 --> 02:13.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Now, the Chicago Ball Park became known 02:13.233 --> 02:14.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% as West Side Park, 02:14.700 --> 02:17.066 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% and that's where the Chicago White Stockings played. 02:17.066 --> 02:20.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Now, the Chicago White Stockings was the name of the team 02:20.066 --> 02:22.566 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% that would later become the Chicago Cubs. 02:22.566 --> 02:23.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% They're in the National League. 02:23.566 --> 02:24.566 align:left position:72.5% line:89% size:17.5% Oh, my. 02:24.566 --> 02:26.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% They actually start in 1876. 02:26.600 --> 02:29.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So here we are, 1885, this is ten years later, 02:29.066 --> 02:30.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and they needed a new park. 02:30.433 --> 02:35.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And this is the dedication souvenir program from that day. 02:35.600 --> 02:37.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% They played the St. Louis Maroons, 02:37.666 --> 02:38.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and they ended up winning the game. 02:38.900 --> 02:40.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Let's open up the program 02:40.500 --> 02:41.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and see what's inside, shall we? Okay. 02:41.733 --> 02:45.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Here we have an actual image of the West Side Park, 02:45.766 --> 02:48.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and on the bottom, we have a team photograph. 02:48.166 --> 02:50.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% They were captained by a gentleman named Cap Anson. 02:50.366 --> 02:53.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He was probably the 19th century's greatest hitter. 02:53.166 --> 02:55.466 align:left position:72.5% line:89% size:17.5% Oh, my. 02:55.466 --> 02:59.000 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Also on the team was Mike "King" Kelly. Wow. 02:59.000 --> 03:01.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% One of the greatest catchers of his day, 03:01.666 --> 03:03.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and famous, they made a song, 03:03.300 --> 03:05.000 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% "Slide, Kelly, Slide." Uh-huh. 03:05.000 --> 03:06.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And then even more interesting here 03:06.433 --> 03:10.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% is a young man named William Sunday, Billy Sunday. 03:10.100 --> 03:11.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He would go on to become one of the most 03:11.633 --> 03:13.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% influential evangelists in the United States. (chuckles) 03:13.900 --> 03:16.766 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% Now we can turn it around. 03:16.766 --> 03:17.900 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% We see here... 03:19.433 --> 03:21.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It gives the names. 03:21.766 --> 03:23.833 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Billy Sunday is underlined... Yeah, I don't know why. 03:23.833 --> 03:25.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% ...because he went on to become famous. 03:25.266 --> 03:27.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Now, 19th-century baseball collectibles 03:27.600 --> 03:30.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% are amongst the rarest and most desirable 03:30.366 --> 03:31.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% of all sports memorabilia. 03:31.733 --> 03:34.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% That you got going for you here. (chuckles) 03:34.866 --> 03:38.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Then you have the Chicago Cubs, 03:38.166 --> 03:40.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% one of the most collected teams. 03:40.100 --> 03:42.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And the condition's amazing. 03:42.766 --> 03:43.666 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% As far as value goes... 03:43.666 --> 03:45.066 align:left position:72.5% line:77% size:17.5% Mm-hmm. I'm curious, 03:45.066 --> 03:46.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% what did this desk come in at? 03:46.933 --> 03:49.100 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% What was the price? This was $2,500. 03:49.100 --> 03:50.333 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% $2,500, which is... Yeah. 03:50.333 --> 03:52.100 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Yeah, that's not bad, it's beautiful. Yeah. 03:52.100 --> 03:53.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's beautiful. Yes. 03:53.366 --> 03:55.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% But you could probably buy about 03:55.266 --> 03:57.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% four of these desks. 03:57.266 --> 04:00.166 align:left position:65% line:71% size:25% (laughing) Because I would, I would estimate that 04:00.166 --> 04:02.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% between $8,000 and $12,000 at auction. 04:02.300 --> 04:04.566 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% Oh, my God, that was just... 04:04.566 --> 04:06.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I had-- I just happened to bring it by chance. 04:06.633 --> 04:08.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's a remarkable, remarkable piece. 04:08.366 --> 04:09.766 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% I'm shocked. 04:09.766 --> 04:11.833 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% I'm really shocked. 04:25.566 --> 04:27.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% You've brought us a wonderful painting 04:27.766 --> 04:31.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% by an American artist named Willard Leroy Metcalf. 04:31.900 --> 04:33.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And what do you know about the artist? 04:33.500 --> 04:35.900 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% I know that he was around New York, 04:35.900 --> 04:39.333 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% an upper-- lower Hudson Valley painter, and that 04:39.333 --> 04:40.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% he did a lot of work like this. 04:40.700 --> 04:42.966 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% I've seen some online. 04:42.966 --> 04:45.600 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% He did some work on Central Park, 04:45.600 --> 04:47.600 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% which looked not unlike this. 04:47.600 --> 04:48.566 align:left position:50% line:89% size:40% And beyond that, 04:48.566 --> 04:49.766 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5% I know he's dead. 04:49.766 --> 04:51.366 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% (both laughing) 04:51.366 --> 04:52.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Well, that's true, that's true. 04:52.733 --> 04:54.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% He actually was born 04:54.000 --> 04:57.800 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% in 1858 and died in 1925. Okay. 04:57.800 --> 05:01.000 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% And as opposed to being a Hudson River Valley, 05:01.000 --> 05:03.733 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% or Hudson River School artist, he actually is 05:03.733 --> 05:06.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% one of the two premier American Impressionist 05:06.433 --> 05:07.766 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% landscape painters. Ah. 05:07.766 --> 05:10.500 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And he was from Lowell, Massachusetts. Uh-huh. 05:10.500 --> 05:13.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And is really associated with the Boston School there. 05:13.400 --> 05:15.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Like many of the Impressionist artists, 05:15.400 --> 05:16.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% he went to France to study. 05:16.966 --> 05:18.866 align:left position:72.5% line:77% size:17.5% Uh-huh. And then he came back 05:18.866 --> 05:21.000 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% and worked in, mostly in the Boston area, 05:21.000 --> 05:23.700 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% but also in Maine and the Berkshires, 05:23.700 --> 05:25.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Cornish, New Hampshire, Vermont, 05:25.200 --> 05:27.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and Old Lyme, Connecticut. 05:27.433 --> 05:29.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And I think this was probably done 05:29.300 --> 05:31.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% in Old Lyme, because there are other examples 05:31.466 --> 05:32.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% that show the rolling hills 05:32.866 --> 05:35.400 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and the rocky landscape like this. Interesting, interesting. 05:35.400 --> 05:39.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% In 1898, he became part of a group called The Ten. 05:39.833 --> 05:42.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And this was composed of ten Impressionist painters, 05:42.333 --> 05:44.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% including William Merritt Chase... Yep. 05:44.600 --> 05:47.166 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% Frank Benson, Edmund Tarbell, 05:47.166 --> 05:49.300 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and the other premier Impressionist painter, 05:49.300 --> 05:51.033 align:left position:30% line:77% size:60% John Twachtman. Okay. 05:51.033 --> 05:52.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% So he was in quite a distinguished group. Yes. 05:52.900 --> 05:55.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Now, Metcalf really was almost purely known 05:55.900 --> 05:57.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% for doing landscapes. 05:57.000 --> 05:59.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% You rarely see any figurative work by him. 05:59.333 --> 06:01.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And around 1901, 06:01.700 --> 06:02.866 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% he suffered a depression 06:02.866 --> 06:04.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% after his wife had left him... Got it. 06:04.866 --> 06:07.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% ...and his best friend, Twachtman, had died. 06:07.833 --> 06:09.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And so after that point, 06:09.833 --> 06:11.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% he almost has a revival. 06:11.700 --> 06:13.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And he changes his palette 06:13.600 --> 06:14.900 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% and his brushwork. 06:14.900 --> 06:16.200 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% So, this painting, which is signed 06:16.200 --> 06:19.633 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% W.L. Metcalf and dated 1906... Right. 06:19.633 --> 06:21.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% ...was done after the depression 06:21.266 --> 06:23.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and into this new era. 06:23.666 --> 06:25.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And what he's doing at this time 06:25.400 --> 06:27.266 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% is using very pastel colors. Uh-huh. 06:27.266 --> 06:29.466 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% So as you can see... Right, right. 06:29.466 --> 06:30.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% ...we've got wonderful pastel colors. 06:30.933 --> 06:33.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He's letting the canvas show through in certain areas 06:33.566 --> 06:35.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% to show dimension. 06:35.233 --> 06:37.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And he also is using sort of a feathery, 06:37.033 --> 06:39.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% brushy technique here. 06:39.133 --> 06:40.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Now, tell me how you happened 06:40.566 --> 06:41.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% to acquire this. 06:41.666 --> 06:43.866 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% Well, this was found in the attic 06:43.866 --> 06:46.533 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% of my late wife's grandfather's house. 06:46.533 --> 06:49.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He was the chairman of the board of the Pennsylvania Railroad. Wow, oh, wow. 06:49.033 --> 06:50.333 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% He had lots of paintings. 06:50.333 --> 06:51.700 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% This was in the attic, 06:51.700 --> 06:53.833 align:left position:45% line:71% size:45% and I was up there stomping around one day... (laughs) 06:53.833 --> 06:56.100 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% And somebody said, "Oh, don't step on that," 06:56.100 --> 06:57.933 align:left position:27.5% line:77% size:62.5% because it was face down. Right. 06:57.933 --> 06:59.366 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% And they picked it up, looked at it, 06:59.366 --> 07:00.733 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and said, "Well, why don't you take this?" 07:00.733 --> 07:01.700 align:left position:67.5% line:89% size:22.5% So I did. 07:01.700 --> 07:03.466 align:left position:65% line:83% size:25% And it was at the time surrounded 07:03.466 --> 07:07.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% by the ugliest rococo frame you've ever seen, 07:07.200 --> 07:11.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% which then my late wife replaced with this pecky cypress. 07:11.500 --> 07:12.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Right, and that, that particular frame 07:12.800 --> 07:16.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that you got rid of is actually the type that the artist 07:16.300 --> 07:18.766 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% would probably have, have used on it, because... 07:18.766 --> 07:20.900 align:left position:17.5% line:71% size:72.5% Then I probably shouldn't have thrown it away, but... Probably not. 07:20.900 --> 07:22.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And also, there's a title on the stretcher 07:22.833 --> 07:24.333 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% on the back, which... Yeah. 07:24.333 --> 07:27.166 align:left position:22.5% line:71% size:67.5% Well, I think, I think it's "Reflections of Spring." Right. 07:27.166 --> 07:29.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Have you ever had this evaluated? 07:29.266 --> 07:31.066 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% Yes, I acquired this 07:31.066 --> 07:34.933 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% probably in 1966, and in 1968, 07:34.933 --> 07:38.600 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% my wife, who was an art major, took it in to an art museum, 07:38.600 --> 07:40.666 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% and they cleaned it up, and she said, 07:40.666 --> 07:42.066 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% "By the way, what do you think it's worth?" 07:42.066 --> 07:44.033 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% And they said, "Oh, well, about $3,000." 07:44.033 --> 07:46.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Well, a painting like this, on the retail market, 07:46.100 --> 07:50.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% would generally sell for $150,000. 07:50.700 --> 07:52.533 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5% (laughing) 07:52.533 --> 07:54.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Wow, that's pretty good for something that was free. 07:54.700 --> 07:56.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I think so. 07:56.233 --> 07:57.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I think so. Holy smokes. 07:57.466 --> 07:59.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Yeah, he's very, very collectible. That is, that... 07:59.300 --> 08:01.700 align:left position:15% line:71% size:75% That, that's way over the top. Yeah. 08:01.700 --> 08:03.866 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And fortunately, I've been hanging it out of the sunlight. 08:03.866 --> 08:05.833 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Well, that's good, that's good. (laughs) 08:05.833 --> 08:07.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I also think it could benefit from a cleaning. 08:07.300 --> 08:10.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's a little dingy from the varnish probably yellowing. 08:10.066 --> 08:11.266 align:left position:67.5% line:89% size:22.5% 35 years. 08:11.266 --> 08:12.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And you've got a couple of 08:12.533 --> 08:13.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% little paint losses here along the edge. Yeah, yeah. 08:13.933 --> 08:16.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And the frame that you found it in, 08:16.066 --> 08:17.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% if it were the original, 08:17.633 --> 08:20.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% then the value of the painting might be more 08:20.933 --> 08:22.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% by, let's say, another $10,000, 08:22.033 --> 08:22.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% depending on the quality of it. Right, yeah. 08:22.966 --> 08:24.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Well, thank you for bringing 08:24.033 --> 08:25.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% such a wonderful painting in today. 08:25.400 --> 08:26.766 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Thank you for enlightening me, I enjoyed it. Oh, good. 08:26.766 --> 08:27.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Great, thank you. 08:27.833 --> 08:29.533 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5% I was afraid you were going to say, 08:29.533 --> 08:32.300 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% "Oh, nice $3,000, but it's actually worth 12 cents." 08:32.300 --> 08:34.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Oh, no, no, no. (laughs) 08:40.700 --> 08:44.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% This piece is about 100 years old, 08:44.100 --> 08:47.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and it was made by my grandfather, 08:47.600 --> 08:51.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% who was a self-taught carpenter 08:51.300 --> 08:52.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and almost illiterate. 08:52.766 --> 08:54.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% So, I'm very proud 08:54.100 --> 08:56.266 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% of the fact that he made this, 08:56.266 --> 08:58.300 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% and it's now in my possession. 08:58.300 --> 09:00.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It's tramp work, 09:00.333 --> 09:04.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and it's made from cigar boxes. 09:04.100 --> 09:06.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% My grandfather sat beside his wife 09:06.533 --> 09:07.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% while she was recuperating, 09:07.600 --> 09:09.866 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% and with a penknife, 09:09.866 --> 09:12.166 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% carved all these little tiny pieces. 09:12.166 --> 09:14.666 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% Where was your family living? 09:14.666 --> 09:17.333 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% They were living in Williamsburg, Pennsylvania. 09:17.333 --> 09:18.666 align:left position:57.5% line:89% size:32.5% Tramp art was 09:18.666 --> 09:20.600 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% home industry. 09:20.600 --> 09:24.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% And everybody assumes that these were made out of cigar boxes. 09:24.266 --> 09:27.366 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% And I think part of them could have been made 09:27.366 --> 09:29.166 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% out of cigar boxes, 09:29.166 --> 09:31.233 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% but you know as well as I do, 09:31.233 --> 09:33.133 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% there are some pieces in here that are bigger 09:33.133 --> 09:35.000 align:left position:37.5% line:71% size:52.5% than what a cigar box would be. Oh, yes. 09:35.000 --> 09:37.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I think what they really looked for was a wood 09:37.233 --> 09:40.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% that was kind of soft and easy to carve. 09:40.166 --> 09:44.266 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% I think he did this to show his skill at lamination, 09:44.266 --> 09:46.966 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% and it alternates maple and walnut. 09:46.966 --> 09:48.900 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% And what he did was, he took a strip 09:48.900 --> 09:51.700 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% the same width and depth all the way across 09:51.700 --> 09:53.066 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% and glued them together, 09:53.066 --> 09:54.866 align:left position:45% line:5% size:45% and then he cut it to fit this 09:54.866 --> 09:56.133 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50% and put this scallop in the front. 09:56.133 --> 09:58.800 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% And the thing that I love the most about this 09:58.800 --> 10:03.200 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% is, it was a labor of love for him. 10:03.200 --> 10:04.733 align:left position:60% line:83% size:30% When I first walked up to it, 10:04.733 --> 10:07.233 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% the first thing I noticed were the hearts 10:07.233 --> 10:08.566 align:left position:57.5% line:71% size:32.5% at the top of each mirror. You noticed the hearts? 10:08.566 --> 10:11.133 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% 'Cause he made it for his sweetie, 10:11.133 --> 10:14.833 align:left position:47.5% line:5% size:42.5% and something you almost never see 10:14.833 --> 10:16.533 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50% is decoration on the bottom like that. 10:16.533 --> 10:18.200 align:left position:45% line:5% size:45% He's paid a lot of attention to detail. 10:18.200 --> 10:19.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Right. 10:19.266 --> 10:20.366 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% Would you be surprised 10:20.366 --> 10:24.466 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% if I told you that this is worth 10:24.466 --> 10:25.833 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5% $6,000 to $8,000? 10:25.833 --> 10:28.033 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% (gasps) 10:28.033 --> 10:29.200 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% Yes. 10:29.200 --> 10:30.333 align:left position:70% line:89% size:20% (laughs) 10:30.333 --> 10:33.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Yes, I would be very surprised. 10:33.000 --> 10:34.266 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% Well, that's the case. 10:34.266 --> 10:35.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Well, it's going to stay in the family. 10:35.900 --> 10:37.033 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% I'll never sell it. 10:50.266 --> 10:52.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% It's not a good piece of pottery, okay? 10:52.400 --> 10:54.300 align:left position:67.5% line:77% size:22.5% (laughs) This is a, a creamware piece. 10:54.300 --> 10:57.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% They put a transfer, a big decal on the surface, 10:57.666 --> 10:59.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% but it's called Rozane's Olympic Line. 10:59.933 --> 11:01.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's one of the rarest Rozane lines. 11:01.633 --> 11:04.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And while you can get a piece of Rookwood brown glaze 11:04.133 --> 11:06.200 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% decorated with flowers... Right. 11:06.200 --> 11:08.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% ...this size, worth $800 to $1,000, 11:08.133 --> 11:11.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% this one's worth between $2,000 and $3,000. 11:11.266 --> 11:12.833 align:left position:57.5% line:77% size:32.5% That's great. It's a really extraordinary, 11:12.833 --> 11:14.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% rare piece of kind of low-end 11:14.966 --> 11:17.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% commercial American pottery, so congratulations. 11:17.766 --> 11:18.900 align:left position:62.5% line:5% size:27.5% (laughing): Thank you. 11:20.966 --> 11:22.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% APPRAISER: It's pretty remarkable. 11:22.433 --> 11:23.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It's just such a large form, 11:23.666 --> 11:25.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and it's wonderfully inset with all of these coins, 11:25.966 --> 11:28.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% all dating from the 17th century. 11:28.800 --> 11:32.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It has a date on this here by the handle, which is dated 1687, 11:32.433 --> 11:34.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and the coins all seem to pre-date that, 11:34.466 --> 11:36.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% so I would think at auction, you're likely to see 11:36.533 --> 11:39.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% something the range of between $20,000 and $25,000. 11:39.666 --> 11:41.300 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% Oh, my God. 11:41.300 --> 11:43.900 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% That's unbelievable. So it's quite a wonderful... 11:43.900 --> 11:45.900 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% That's remarkable, I would never have guessed. 11:48.133 --> 11:51.000 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% MAN: This is a print of something that happened 11:51.000 --> 11:52.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% with the 15th Amendment 11:52.600 --> 11:54.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% that I know very little about. 11:54.500 --> 11:55.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I want to know a little more about it... 11:55.733 --> 11:57.033 align:left position:72.5% line:77% size:17.5% Okay. ...and maybe you can help me. 11:57.033 --> 11:59.200 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% It was printed in 1870. 11:59.200 --> 12:01.533 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% It's a hand-colored lithograph printed in Baltimore, 12:01.533 --> 12:03.966 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% which is nice, because we're finding it in Baltimore. 12:03.966 --> 12:07.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% And it's African American troops and fraternal organizations 12:07.400 --> 12:10.333 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% marching up the street in celebration of 12:10.333 --> 12:11.500 align:left position:42.5% line:5% size:47.5% the 15th Amendment, 12:11.500 --> 12:13.166 align:left position:65% line:83% size:25% and what's particularly nice about it 12:13.166 --> 12:17.766 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% as a period piece is, it's showing a very patriotic 12:17.766 --> 12:19.433 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% and positive view of African Americans 12:19.433 --> 12:21.500 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% in a period when there weren't that many. 12:21.500 --> 12:23.800 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% Period frame, looks like it's the old glass, 12:23.800 --> 12:26.000 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% just a very nice package. 12:26.000 --> 12:28.833 align:left position:37.5% line:77% size:52.5% Value, around $2,500. Really? 12:28.833 --> 12:30.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% That is wonderful. 12:30.700 --> 12:32.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% It's great, and I will keep it. (laughing) 12:32.666 --> 12:33.766 align:left position:67.5% line:5% size:22.5% Enjoy it. 12:42.566 --> 12:44.633 align:left position:75% line:77% size:15% WOMAN: My mother gave them to my husband, 12:44.633 --> 12:46.266 align:left position:50% line:5% size:40% who admired them for many years. 12:46.266 --> 12:49.233 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5% But my mother grew up on a beautiful farm 12:49.233 --> 12:52.233 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5% in Greenville, Maine, 12:52.233 --> 12:55.866 align:left position:42.5% line:5% size:47.5% beautiful mountain- lake region, and in the summer, 12:55.866 --> 12:57.533 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% they boarded travelers, 12:57.533 --> 13:00.666 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% and one of the boarders that came very often 13:00.666 --> 13:03.300 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% was a Baltimore socialite. 13:03.300 --> 13:05.066 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% Her name was Eleanor Duvall. 13:05.066 --> 13:07.200 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% A lot of these things we have 13:07.200 --> 13:09.766 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% that belonged to her came through my mother, 13:09.766 --> 13:12.900 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% and then she gave these to us last summer. 13:12.900 --> 13:15.966 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% And when we brought them back home to Baltimore, 13:15.966 --> 13:18.066 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% we learned that they were Berges. 13:18.066 --> 13:20.833 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% He was a popular sculptor, 13:20.833 --> 13:23.633 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% turn of the century, and other than that, 13:23.633 --> 13:25.233 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% I don't know a whole lot more. 13:25.233 --> 13:26.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Okay. 13:26.566 --> 13:29.700 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% Actually, we think his name was pronounced "Ber-guee." 13:29.700 --> 13:31.633 align:left position:60% line:5% size:30% Berge, okay. Right, Edward Berge. 13:31.633 --> 13:32.900 align:left position:77.5% line:5% size:12.5% Okay. And he was born in Baltimore 13:32.900 --> 13:36.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and he studied here, at the Rinehart School, 13:36.266 --> 13:39.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and he later became a teacher at the Maryland Institute. 13:39.733 --> 13:41.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% These pieces I would probably date 13:41.233 --> 13:43.533 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% from the 1920s or so. Mm-hmm. 13:43.533 --> 13:45.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He was trained in a more classical tradition. 13:45.700 --> 13:47.466 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% The beginning of the 20th century, 13:47.466 --> 13:49.833 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% there was a lot of avant-garde work going on, 13:49.833 --> 13:52.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% but he chose this traditional path. Hm. 13:52.333 --> 13:54.833 align:left position:45% line:71% size:45% They're beautiful. And that's exemplified in this wonderful nude... 13:54.833 --> 13:57.900 align:left position:80% line:71% size:10% Yes. ...that's beautifully observed and beautifully modeled. 13:57.900 --> 14:00.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% What he's really known for are his fountains. 14:00.233 --> 14:01.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% This is actually his most famous piece. 14:01.733 --> 14:04.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It's called "Wildflower," 14:04.633 --> 14:07.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and he did a whole series of these pieces 14:07.233 --> 14:09.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% based on different flowers. 14:09.366 --> 14:10.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And they're really quite wonderful. 14:10.900 --> 14:12.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And I said it was a fountain, 14:12.600 --> 14:14.633 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% and this is a reduction. Right. 14:14.633 --> 14:16.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He did these in a few different sizes. 14:16.700 --> 14:18.666 align:left position:72.5% line:77% size:17.5% Mm-hmm. This was the smallest size. 14:18.666 --> 14:21.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He did one about 12 inches high, 14:21.400 --> 14:23.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and then there's another one 14:23.033 --> 14:24.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% that's about 40 inches high. 14:24.766 --> 14:26.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And this one, 14:26.533 --> 14:29.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% not only is it signed by Berge himself, 14:29.833 --> 14:32.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% but in addition, it's signed here 14:32.100 --> 14:34.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% with "RBW"... RBW. 14:34.000 --> 14:35.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% ...which is the Roman Bronze Works. Roman Bronze. 14:35.933 --> 14:37.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% They were in New York. 14:37.400 --> 14:39.166 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% The Roman Bronze had the models for these, 14:39.166 --> 14:40.466 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and they were cast for a very long time 14:40.466 --> 14:42.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% by the family. 14:42.166 --> 14:43.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And I think some of them were cast 14:43.500 --> 14:46.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% well into the 1950s, if not the 1960s. 14:46.866 --> 14:48.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's really beautifully done, 14:48.633 --> 14:51.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% very nicely detailed with a beautiful patina. 14:51.000 --> 14:52.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% This one also is 14:52.133 --> 14:54.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% wonderful, because it has a great patina on it. 14:54.466 --> 14:56.066 align:left position:77.5% line:77% size:12.5% Yeah. It's nicely modeled. 14:56.066 --> 14:58.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% This one has a different foundry on it. 14:58.400 --> 15:02.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% The foundry here is the Zappo Foundry in New York. 15:02.000 --> 15:03.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And it was very common for artists 15:03.233 --> 15:06.300 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% to have their things cast at different foundries. 15:06.300 --> 15:07.300 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% I see. 15:07.300 --> 15:08.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% In terms of the value, 15:08.766 --> 15:12.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% this reduction of his piece called "Wildflower" 15:12.333 --> 15:14.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% at auction would probably bring between 15:14.533 --> 15:17.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% $2,000 and $3,000. 15:17.033 --> 15:18.933 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% No kidding. 15:18.933 --> 15:20.233 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% Oh, no. 15:20.233 --> 15:21.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And this young lady here, 15:21.433 --> 15:23.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% again, beautifully cast bronze, 15:23.566 --> 15:25.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I would think at auction would 15:25.633 --> 15:27.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% probably bring $3,000, $4,000. 15:27.766 --> 15:29.533 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% Oh, no. (laughs) 15:29.533 --> 15:30.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Well, thanks for bringing them in. 15:30.633 --> 15:31.766 align:left position:30% line:77% size:60% Well, thank you so much. Good. 15:45.933 --> 15:48.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% In 1970, my dad decided to watch a football game 15:48.733 --> 15:50.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% with my brother, and my mom and I 15:50.266 --> 15:53.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% took a little drive into the country with a relative, 15:53.466 --> 15:54.800 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% and we went to New Hope, Pennsylvania. 15:54.800 --> 15:58.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% She'd heard about a woodworker, George Nakashima. 15:58.466 --> 16:00.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So we went to his workshop, met him, 16:00.866 --> 16:03.300 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and took a look at some of the furniture. 16:03.300 --> 16:04.733 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% Within a couple of months, 16:04.733 --> 16:08.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% they decided they wanted a bench made 16:08.000 --> 16:10.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and communicated with him, and he sent a drawing to us 16:10.833 --> 16:13.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% of what that bench would look like, and here it is. 16:13.800 --> 16:16.033 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% It's extraordinary that you have this drawing 16:16.033 --> 16:21.333 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% by George Nakashima, truly a master American craftsman. 16:21.333 --> 16:23.066 align:left position:35% line:77% size:55% You met him in person? We did, we did. 16:23.066 --> 16:24.633 align:left position:47.5% line:77% size:42.5% What was he like? It was pretty exciting. 16:24.633 --> 16:26.433 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% You know, I was 12 years old, and I just don't 16:26.433 --> 16:28.600 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% remember that much, I'm so sorry. 16:28.600 --> 16:31.433 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Well, I can maybe fill in a little bit of the blanks, 16:31.433 --> 16:34.466 align:left position:25% line:71% size:65% because my brother went to school in the New Hope area. Really? 16:34.466 --> 16:37.866 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% And while he was driving around in his pickup truck, 16:37.866 --> 16:40.366 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% he met George, and George said to these bunch of teenagers, 16:40.366 --> 16:41.633 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% "If you guys," you know, 16:41.633 --> 16:43.366 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% "if you're driving around the countryside 16:43.366 --> 16:45.833 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% "and you see any big trees fallen down, 16:45.833 --> 16:47.333 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% call me first." (laughs) 16:47.333 --> 16:49.133 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Really? Because, of course, he knew these kids 16:49.133 --> 16:50.800 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% were carousing in their pickup trucks at night. 16:50.800 --> 16:52.800 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% I've seen furniture 16:52.800 --> 16:54.800 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% by George Nakashima, and the drawings, 16:54.800 --> 16:57.333 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% You notice along the top of it, it says, 16:57.333 --> 17:00.366 align:left position:50% line:77% size:40% "Please confirm if satisfactory." (laughs) 17:00.366 --> 17:02.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I know-- I thought that was really special. 17:02.500 --> 17:03.533 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% He lays it out for you. 17:03.533 --> 17:05.100 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% He's even chosen the piece of wood, 17:05.100 --> 17:08.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and in his studio, he had planks and planks of wood that... 17:08.933 --> 17:10.500 align:left position:25% line:77% size:65% I do remember that. Do you? 17:10.500 --> 17:12.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Yes, I do. Well, he was in love with wood. 17:12.900 --> 17:14.900 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% And the thing that fascinates me about him, 17:14.900 --> 17:17.400 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% this great master of mid-century furniture, 17:17.400 --> 17:20.100 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% is that a lot of his contemporaries 17:20.100 --> 17:21.433 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% were making material 17:21.433 --> 17:24.800 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% in more a manufactured way, 17:24.800 --> 17:26.333 align:left position:60% line:83% size:30% and he loved the hand process. 17:26.333 --> 17:28.633 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% And so he chose these pieces so carefully, 17:28.633 --> 17:29.866 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% and you can really see that. 17:29.866 --> 17:32.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I mean, it comes to life in this drawing, 17:32.366 --> 17:33.900 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% where he talks about the textured knot. 17:33.900 --> 17:35.600 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% And, of course, the textured knot is right here 17:35.600 --> 17:36.900 align:left position:52.5% line:89% size:37.5% in front of us. 17:36.900 --> 17:38.066 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% I mean, there's just no mistake 17:38.066 --> 17:41.133 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% that this drawing goes to this bench. 17:41.133 --> 17:42.366 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% It's just this combination-- 17:42.366 --> 17:43.700 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% of course, he's a Japanese American, 17:43.700 --> 17:45.066 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% born in Washington-- but this combination 17:45.066 --> 17:48.966 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% of Americana and also Japanese sensibilities. 17:48.966 --> 17:50.666 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% The top of this bench looks to me 17:50.666 --> 17:52.466 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5% like a torii arch 17:52.466 --> 17:55.400 align:left position:45% line:71% size:45% from Japan, coming into a Shinto temple. It does. 17:55.400 --> 17:56.366 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% And when George came 17:56.366 --> 17:58.600 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% to the New Hope, Pennsylvania, area 17:58.600 --> 18:00.500 align:left position:52.5% line:89% size:37.5% in the '40s, he 18:00.500 --> 18:04.433 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% looked at Americana and looked at Windsor benches. 18:04.433 --> 18:08.166 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% So this is this 18th-century Windsor bench 18:08.166 --> 18:11.133 align:left position:60% line:83% size:30% brought into a 20th-century sensibility. 18:11.133 --> 18:14.566 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% A lot of his furniture was done in a walnut. 18:14.566 --> 18:16.100 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% There was a lot of walnut in the Pennsylvania area. 18:16.100 --> 18:18.200 align:left position:60% line:83% size:30% He also uses imported woods, as well, 18:18.200 --> 18:21.400 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% but, but this is a cherry, and probably indigenous. 18:21.400 --> 18:22.433 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% And then these stiles 18:22.433 --> 18:24.133 align:left position:60% line:89% size:30% are hickory. 18:24.133 --> 18:25.366 align:left position:70% line:83% size:20% Any idea of its value? 18:25.366 --> 18:28.700 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% We had it valued by the Nakashima Group 18:28.700 --> 18:30.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% in early 2000, and it was, 18:30.266 --> 18:32.366 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% I think, around $6,000. 18:32.366 --> 18:33.800 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% But I'd love to get an update on that, 18:33.800 --> 18:36.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% because I'd really like to have it insured. 18:36.133 --> 18:38.100 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Well, your parents paid $375 for this? 18:38.100 --> 18:42.933 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Yes. The market has exploded in Nakashima furniture. 18:42.933 --> 18:44.266 align:left position:60% line:83% size:30% Benches like this at auction 18:44.266 --> 18:45.633 align:left position:62.5% line:83% size:27.5% are selling for $40,000. 18:45.633 --> 18:47.133 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% Oh, my God. 18:47.133 --> 18:48.966 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% Now, because you have the drawing, 18:48.966 --> 18:52.500 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% you get to add a few thousand more on top of that. 18:52.500 --> 18:53.833 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% So say we're at the $45,000 mark. 18:53.833 --> 18:57.266 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% For insurance, you might want to raise it higher. 18:57.266 --> 19:00.433 align:left position:60% line:71% size:30% But this is, I'd say $45,000. Oh, my God. 19:00.433 --> 19:04.166 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% It's just red-hot now in the marketplace. 19:04.166 --> 19:05.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Well, we love it, and we use it every day 19:05.533 --> 19:08.166 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% in the living room, so we take very good care of it. 19:22.033 --> 19:25.033 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% WOMAN: The woman in the photograph is Lucrezia Bori, 19:25.033 --> 19:27.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and my husband's great-aunt 19:27.300 --> 19:30.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% was her personal secretary for all of her career. 19:30.033 --> 19:32.033 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% Lucrezia Bori is from Spain. 19:32.033 --> 19:34.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% These were her earrings, 19:34.800 --> 19:38.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and we have pictures of her wearing them in several operas. 19:38.533 --> 19:40.266 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% You can see here she's got the earrings 19:40.266 --> 19:42.333 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% in a shorter style, 19:42.333 --> 19:44.933 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% and then here in the much longer version 19:44.933 --> 19:47.700 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% as we see here on the table. 19:47.700 --> 19:49.133 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% What's interesting about these earrings 19:49.133 --> 19:52.200 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% is that the central parts are detachable. 19:52.200 --> 19:55.300 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And so she could wear them in a variety of styles. 19:55.300 --> 19:56.533 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% These are Spanish, 19:56.533 --> 19:59.366 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% and I know you said she was of Spanish descent, 19:59.366 --> 20:01.333 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% and so these were probably family pieces. 20:01.333 --> 20:04.033 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% These date from the 18th century. 20:04.033 --> 20:06.633 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% They were based on much earlier designs, 20:06.633 --> 20:09.766 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% and they continued to be redone and updated 20:09.766 --> 20:11.733 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% for each of the centuries. 20:11.733 --> 20:14.733 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% Both the 17th and 18th, and even 19th century. 20:14.733 --> 20:15.666 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% But these are definitely 20:15.666 --> 20:17.933 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% an 18th-century pair of earrings. 20:17.933 --> 20:19.066 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% They're made of gold 20:19.066 --> 20:23.533 align:left position:62.5% line:83% size:27.5% and garnet, and if I turn them over, 20:23.533 --> 20:24.566 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% one thing to point out-- 20:24.566 --> 20:26.000 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% the tops of these are not original. 20:26.000 --> 20:28.066 align:left position:22.5% line:77% size:67.5% These are a later addition. Okay. 20:28.066 --> 20:29.666 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% But you can see there are these little tabs 20:29.666 --> 20:32.033 align:left position:50% line:5% size:40% on the back that are used 20:32.033 --> 20:35.566 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% to separate each of the corresponding segments. 20:35.566 --> 20:37.866 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5% And then the back has a little bit of an engraving, 20:37.866 --> 20:40.266 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% just to make them a little more interesting on the back. 20:40.266 --> 20:42.366 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% The reason these were divided into sections 20:42.366 --> 20:43.966 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% weren't so much used 20:43.966 --> 20:47.233 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% for changing the design of the piece, 20:47.233 --> 20:49.733 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% but these earrings were quite heavy to wear all the time. 20:49.733 --> 20:53.200 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% And so when ladies were going to their event or evening out, 20:53.200 --> 20:54.866 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% when they were in their carriages, 20:54.866 --> 20:56.166 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% they would take the lower sections off, 20:56.166 --> 20:58.333 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% so that they weren't so heavy, 20:58.333 --> 21:00.733 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and upon arrival to their destination, 21:00.733 --> 21:02.533 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% they would put the bottom sections back on 21:02.533 --> 21:03.600 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% just so to give their ears 21:03.600 --> 21:06.333 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% a little relief for the evening. 21:06.333 --> 21:07.733 align:left position:65% line:83% size:25% They're in excellent condition. 21:07.733 --> 21:09.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% We don't see many of these, and I think the fact 21:09.366 --> 21:11.166 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% that you have the history, 21:11.166 --> 21:14.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% the photographs, I would say that you would probably want 21:14.066 --> 21:17.333 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% to insure these from anywhere between $8,000 and $10,000. 21:17.333 --> 21:18.900 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% (hisses) 21:18.900 --> 21:21.000 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% (laughing): That's amazing. 21:21.000 --> 21:23.133 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% Wow. Thank you. 21:23.133 --> 21:24.500 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% Unbelievable! 21:38.666 --> 21:42.333 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% WOMAN: I was a college student, and I went to the Folklife Festival, 21:42.333 --> 21:45.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% the Smithsonian in Washington, DC, on the Mall. 21:45.766 --> 21:47.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I went into a tent, and this was there, 21:47.733 --> 21:49.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and I fell in love with it. 21:49.133 --> 21:52.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And there was a man that was there, 21:52.200 --> 21:54.300 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and I told him I was a college student 21:54.300 --> 21:56.433 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and I didn't have a lot of money, 21:56.433 --> 21:59.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% so I said I... He said, "Do you like anything?" 21:59.566 --> 22:00.633 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% I said, "I like that." 22:00.633 --> 22:01.833 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% He said, "I tell you what. 22:01.833 --> 22:03.033 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% How much do you have?" 22:03.033 --> 22:07.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I had about $30, and so he let me have it for $30. 22:07.200 --> 22:08.433 align:left position:65% line:89% size:25% I love it. 22:08.433 --> 22:10.366 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% So how many years ago was that, approximately? 22:10.366 --> 22:11.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% 30? 22:11.800 --> 22:14.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% When you walked in with this face jug, as they call it, 22:14.166 --> 22:17.733 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% I recognized that it's possibly a piece 22:17.733 --> 22:19.200 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% that was made by the Meaders family. 22:19.200 --> 22:21.433 align:left position:52.5% line:5% size:37.5% I recognized it by the glaze, 22:21.433 --> 22:23.500 align:left position:47.5% line:5% size:42.5% which is called a tobacco-spit glaze. 22:23.500 --> 22:24.700 align:left position:50% line:5% size:40% And you can just picture it. Oh! 22:24.700 --> 22:26.666 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% It looks like dripping tobacco juice 22:26.666 --> 22:28.900 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% that someone might have spit on it. 22:28.900 --> 22:31.500 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% When we turn it over, we now see the signature, 22:31.500 --> 22:34.500 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% and the signature is that of Lanier Meaders. 22:34.500 --> 22:37.666 align:left position:30% line:77% size:60% And he was born in 1917. Oh! 22:37.666 --> 22:41.233 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% And he was the second son of Georgia potters 22:41.233 --> 22:42.800 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% Cheever and Arie Meaders. 22:42.800 --> 22:45.666 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% They became very famous in Georgia. 22:45.666 --> 22:49.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% The Library of Congress honored them in the 1970s. 22:49.966 --> 22:51.400 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% Oh, God, I didn't know... 22:51.400 --> 22:53.233 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% So they actually had a very, very 22:53.233 --> 22:56.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% high regard in the field of American folk pottery. 22:56.366 --> 22:58.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% My sisters never liked it. 22:58.500 --> 23:00.833 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% So every time they would come to my house, 23:00.833 --> 23:02.500 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% they would turn the face to the wall. 23:02.500 --> 23:05.300 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% It's interesting you say that, because sometimes, 23:05.300 --> 23:09.500 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% the other name for the pottery is grotesque face pottery. 23:09.500 --> 23:10.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% (laughing) 23:10.766 --> 23:12.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So some of them are actually quite distorted and scary. 23:12.533 --> 23:14.333 align:left position:60% line:83% size:30% I think this is wonderful. 23:14.333 --> 23:15.566 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% It's very dignified. 23:15.566 --> 23:18.466 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Value in today's market, somewhere in the 23:18.466 --> 23:21.433 align:left position:67.5% line:83% size:22.5% $1,500 to $2,500 range. 23:21.433 --> 23:22.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I love it. Thank you so much. 23:22.700 --> 23:23.900 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% Well, thank you for bringing it 23:23.900 --> 23:25.533 align:left position:32.5% line:77% size:57.5% to "Antiques Roadshow." Thank you. 23:26.700 --> 23:28.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I had no idea. 23:39.133 --> 23:41.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's a really well-detailed model. 23:41.133 --> 23:43.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I first saw the Shot Tower about 20 years ago, 23:43.066 --> 23:45.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% my first trip to Baltimore, and the Phoenix Shot Tower 23:45.800 --> 23:48.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% was actually used to make lead shot for shotguns. 23:48.166 --> 23:51.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% They would drop lead shot off the top, and as it fell, 23:51.466 --> 23:53.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% it would form a perfect sphere. 23:53.500 --> 23:56.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Reasonable retail price would be somewhere in the $1,000 23:56.166 --> 23:57.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% to $1,500 range for a piece like this. 23:57.900 --> 23:59.433 align:left position:67.5% line:89% size:22.5% Oh, yeah? 24:05.500 --> 24:07.800 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% It would have been worth quite a bit of money 24:07.800 --> 24:09.166 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% had no one ever gotten to it. 24:09.166 --> 24:12.400 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% Somebody has done a lot of over-finishing. 24:12.400 --> 24:14.466 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% They were trying to repair these cracks here, 24:14.466 --> 24:16.100 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% but they didn't do a very good job. 24:16.100 --> 24:17.666 align:left position:60% line:83% size:30% This guitar, in excellent condition, 24:17.666 --> 24:21.333 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% would have been worth about $15,000. 24:21.333 --> 24:24.066 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% In the condition it's in now, I'd say around 24:24.066 --> 24:27.333 align:left position:52.5% line:89% size:37.5% $3,000, $3,500. 24:27.333 --> 24:29.500 align:left position:47.5% line:5% size:42.5% This one just had all the wrong things done, 24:29.500 --> 24:31.066 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% but probably done during an era 24:31.066 --> 24:32.700 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% when people weren't thinking 24:32.700 --> 24:34.066 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5% that these were worth any real money. 24:34.066 --> 24:36.400 align:left position:80% line:83% size:10% MAN: I went to antique shop. 24:36.400 --> 24:38.266 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% Saw that belt across the room. 24:38.266 --> 24:39.933 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% It was in the late '60s, early '70s, 24:39.933 --> 24:43.533 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% and I think we finally agreed on $150. 24:43.533 --> 24:46.533 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% I figured it was silver, and I wanted to wear it. 24:46.533 --> 24:48.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Well, what you picked up was a belt that was made 24:48.666 --> 24:51.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% in the '30s by the Navajos. 24:51.166 --> 24:53.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% The materials it's made out of is silver. 24:53.733 --> 24:55.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% A belt like this today would sell for about 24:55.600 --> 24:58.966 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% $3,000 to $5,000 at auction. Okay. 24:58.966 --> 25:01.200 align:left position:25% line:77% size:65% Well, I wish it still fit. You wanted to wear it. 25:01.200 --> 25:02.233 align:left position:70% line:89% size:20% (laughs) 25:02.233 --> 25:03.866 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50% I wore it for years. 25:03.866 --> 25:04.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Were you an old hippie back then? 25:04.966 --> 25:07.400 align:left position:52.5% line:5% size:37.5% Yes, of course. 25:08.800 --> 25:10.966 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% I got it at a yard sale in Maryland. 25:10.966 --> 25:13.400 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Okay, what did you pay for it? I paid $15 for it. 25:13.400 --> 25:15.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Okay, why did you buy it? 25:15.066 --> 25:17.766 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Well, I bought it because this lady had a whole lot of them 25:17.766 --> 25:21.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and told me that her husband was a curator with a museum. 25:21.533 --> 25:25.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% This is a mask from what used to be called Upper Volta, 25:25.300 --> 25:27.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% which is now called Burkina Faso. 25:27.233 --> 25:29.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% The tribe is Nunuma, 25:29.133 --> 25:32.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and it's in the central area of Burkina Faso. 25:32.766 --> 25:38.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% What we like to see on masks is, first of all, 25:38.833 --> 25:42.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% this has wonderful wear all along this edge here, 25:42.733 --> 25:44.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% great old break in there. Right there, yeah. 25:44.733 --> 25:49.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% We come around, we have some nice wear on the front. 25:49.300 --> 25:50.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% And I'm telling you, I've been doing 25:50.733 --> 25:52.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% the Antiques Roadshow for 12 years, 25:52.533 --> 25:55.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% this is one of the few authentic masks I've found. 25:55.000 --> 25:56.766 align:left position:55% line:77% size:35% Is that right? This is the real deal. 25:56.766 --> 25:58.100 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% I figured it was, because... 25:58.100 --> 25:59.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% This is the real deal. 25:59.033 --> 26:00.800 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% He was a curator of a museum, so... 26:00.800 --> 26:04.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% These masks are used as bush spirits 26:04.366 --> 26:06.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% to communicate with the creator. 26:06.666 --> 26:07.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% This is really lovely. 26:07.866 --> 26:10.033 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% And they did wear it on their face as a mask? 26:10.033 --> 26:13.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Yeah, it's worn-- if you'll pardon me, it's worn like this. 26:13.400 --> 26:15.933 align:left position:82.5% line:71% size:7.5% Oh. And that's the way it's danced. 26:15.933 --> 26:17.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% What do you think it's worth? 26:17.400 --> 26:19.166 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% It's got to be worth more than $15. 26:19.166 --> 26:21.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% How about $5,000 to $7,000? 26:21.666 --> 26:24.833 align:left position:60% line:71% size:30% Oh, my word, I would've... Yup. 26:24.833 --> 26:28.500 align:left position:62.5% line:71% size:27.5% Oh, my God. Yeah, this is really a nice, good, solid mask. 26:28.500 --> 26:30.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's in good condition and it's old. 26:30.933 --> 26:32.466 align:left position:60% line:83% size:30% Oh, my gosh, thank you so much. 26:32.466 --> 26:34.066 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Should I say congratulations? Yes, you should. 26:34.066 --> 26:36.033 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Okay, I will. (both chuckle) 26:49.833 --> 26:51.600 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% It was my late husband's, 26:51.600 --> 26:54.500 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% and it was a particular treasure of his. 26:54.500 --> 26:56.000 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% He was a graphic artist 26:56.000 --> 26:57.800 align:left position:50% line:5% size:40% and he collected a lot of posters. 26:57.800 --> 26:59.633 align:left position:50% line:5% size:40% This is the most interesting, I think. 26:59.633 --> 27:03.033 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% Being from the Bridgeport area, where Barnum had his museum 27:03.033 --> 27:05.933 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% and the circus had its winter headquarters and everything, 27:05.933 --> 27:07.400 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% there was local interest, 27:07.400 --> 27:09.066 align:left position:45% line:5% size:45% but we both really loved the headline, 27:09.066 --> 27:11.466 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50% so typically Barnum. 27:11.466 --> 27:13.733 align:left position:70% line:83% size:20% I think, from my research, 27:13.733 --> 27:17.933 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% that Jumbo was killed in 1885. 27:17.933 --> 27:19.833 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% Hit by a train. 27:19.833 --> 27:23.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And Jumbo the elephant was a big star of the circus, 27:23.433 --> 27:25.266 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and it was a horror that he was killed. 27:25.266 --> 27:29.400 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% And so Barnum had to do something to rescue the circus, 27:29.400 --> 27:31.800 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% and he came up with this story that Jumbo 27:31.800 --> 27:33.733 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% had sacrificed himself and thrown 27:33.733 --> 27:36.666 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% this elephant out of the way of the oncoming train 27:36.666 --> 27:37.966 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5% to save its life. 27:37.966 --> 27:39.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It's a great headline. 27:39.433 --> 27:41.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And this may come as a surprise to you, 27:41.900 --> 27:43.366 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% but for some reason, I'm very partial 27:43.366 --> 27:46.633 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% to images of men dressed as clowns. (laughing) 27:46.633 --> 27:47.833 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% I don't know what it is, 27:47.833 --> 27:49.100 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% but it really, it resonates with me. Yes. 27:49.100 --> 27:50.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% P.T. Barnum was considered 27:50.633 --> 27:52.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% the world's greatest huckster. 27:52.333 --> 27:55.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And early circus posters are a wonderful window 27:55.133 --> 27:56.866 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% into the history of American advertising. 27:56.866 --> 27:59.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% The circuses would travel from town to town, 27:59.200 --> 28:01.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and as they were moving from town to town, 28:01.833 --> 28:04.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% an advance team of advertisers would be in the next town 28:04.233 --> 28:05.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% hanging up posters. 28:05.200 --> 28:07.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And the circuses in America really 28:07.066 --> 28:09.766 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% revolutionized poster art in America. Oh. 28:09.766 --> 28:11.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And revolutionized advertising art. 28:11.566 --> 28:12.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% The poster was printed 28:12.633 --> 28:14.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% by one of the great American lithographers, 28:14.366 --> 28:17.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% the Strobridge Company, which was based in Cincinnati. 28:17.066 --> 28:19.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And their name appears on all the posters that they printed, 28:19.333 --> 28:21.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and they really are the gold standard for American 28:21.900 --> 28:23.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% turn-of-the-century commercial lithography. 28:23.933 --> 28:25.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Now, on most early circus posters, 28:25.933 --> 28:27.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% not only does it say Strobridge, 28:27.066 --> 28:28.800 align:left position:25% line:71% size:65% but it has the date of the poster. Oh! 28:28.800 --> 28:31.700 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% This series, with the two cameos-- 28:31.700 --> 28:33.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% the two very desirable cameos, from the point of view 28:33.566 --> 28:35.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% of circus collectors-- these were never dated. 28:35.333 --> 28:37.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% But they date to approximately 28:37.666 --> 28:39.200 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% the early 1890s. Really? 28:39.200 --> 28:40.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So it was a little bit after Jumbo died. 28:40.600 --> 28:41.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Now, you mentioned the headline. 28:41.700 --> 28:42.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% The headline is great. 28:42.666 --> 28:43.800 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% You've got to imagine a man 28:43.800 --> 28:45.433 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% standing outside the big top going, 28:45.433 --> 28:47.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% "The original, famous, and only 28:47.933 --> 28:49.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% "diminutive, dwarf 28:49.166 --> 28:51.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% "clown elephant, Tom Thumb, 28:51.566 --> 28:56.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% "to save whom Jumbo so nobly sacrificed his own life. 28:56.333 --> 28:59.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Inimitable displays of elephantine intelligence." 28:59.900 --> 29:02.000 align:left position:65% line:77% size:25% (chuckles) This would've really excited people, 29:02.000 --> 29:03.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% along with all the great vignettes of the elephant 29:03.800 --> 29:05.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% playing music, the elephant bicycling, 29:05.833 --> 29:08.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% the elephant ordering drinks. 29:08.000 --> 29:10.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% This would have really excited people to come and visit. 29:10.166 --> 29:11.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% The circus posters 29:11.166 --> 29:12.400 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% from the '30s and '40s, 29:12.400 --> 29:14.133 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% which were printed in much larger numbers, 29:14.133 --> 29:16.800 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% tend to sell in the $200, $300, $400 range. 29:16.800 --> 29:19.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% At auction, I would estimate its value 29:19.833 --> 29:22.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% at between $2,000 and $3,000, 29:22.300 --> 29:23.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and it's in very good condition, too. 29:23.600 --> 29:24.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% The colors are still bright. 29:24.800 --> 29:26.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So it wouldn't surprise me if it would sell 29:26.433 --> 29:28.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% closer to the high end of that rather than the low end. 29:28.400 --> 29:29.700 align:left position:75% line:89% size:15% Great. 29:29.700 --> 29:31.600 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Great-- my husband would be very pleased. 29:31.600 --> 29:33.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I need a pair of red-striped pants. 29:33.866 --> 29:36.300 align:left position:65% line:5% size:25% (laughing) That would be perfect. 29:44.933 --> 29:47.966 align:left position:80% line:77% size:10% MAN: We think we have a 17th-century watch. 29:47.966 --> 29:48.933 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% We think it's from France, 29:48.933 --> 29:50.500 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% and the story in our family is, 29:50.500 --> 29:52.400 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% it may have actually been a remake 29:52.400 --> 29:53.966 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% of an earlier watch. 29:53.966 --> 29:56.066 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And so we know it has some enamel on it 29:56.066 --> 29:57.500 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and some silver, but that's really 29:57.500 --> 29:59.233 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% as much as we know about it. 29:59.233 --> 30:01.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And when you brought it to me, 30:01.433 --> 30:02.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% there was a little bit of a mystery. 30:02.700 --> 30:04.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I had to do a little research. 30:04.133 --> 30:05.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% First, you notice, it's very ornate. 30:05.800 --> 30:07.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% There's a lot going on there. 30:07.266 --> 30:08.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% The movement is done 30:08.633 --> 30:11.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% by a watchmaker that was out of London 30:11.533 --> 30:16.866 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% around 1768 through the latter part of the 1700s. 30:16.866 --> 30:18.366 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% So you're right on the money there, 30:18.366 --> 30:20.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% as far as the watch. 30:20.200 --> 30:23.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% But whoever put together the piece itself 30:23.400 --> 30:25.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% put it together later. 30:25.666 --> 30:26.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Now, on the back, 30:26.833 --> 30:28.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% there's a little hook where this should be worn 30:28.700 --> 30:30.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% over a sash or on a heavy garment. 30:30.400 --> 30:32.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% This is very ornamental. 30:32.766 --> 30:34.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% The hallmark-- it's an export mark-- 30:34.966 --> 30:36.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% tells us that it was made sometime 30:36.700 --> 30:40.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% between 1891 and 1901. 30:40.466 --> 30:41.466 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% Now, where is it from? 30:41.466 --> 30:42.800 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% Not France. Oh. 30:42.800 --> 30:45.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Austria-Hungary. 30:45.666 --> 30:48.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And it's very typical of this type of enamel work 30:48.600 --> 30:50.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% done on top of silver. 30:50.433 --> 30:52.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Beyond that, what looks like glass 30:52.633 --> 30:54.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% is not glass. Is it rock crystal? Is that... 30:54.733 --> 30:56.333 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Yeah, that's good. Okay. 30:56.333 --> 30:57.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And it's not molded. 30:57.433 --> 31:01.300 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% You have to start by taking a solid piece 31:01.300 --> 31:03.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% of rock crystal. 31:03.300 --> 31:05.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And usually this was done 31:05.533 --> 31:07.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% in Idar-Oberstein, Germany. 31:07.366 --> 31:08.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And they would sit down 31:08.800 --> 31:10.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and hand-cut these pieces out. 31:10.633 --> 31:14.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% They actually cut a cylinder 31:14.100 --> 31:15.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% for the watch movement to fit into. 31:15.900 --> 31:16.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% They cut this top piece. 31:16.900 --> 31:18.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% They put all the facets on it. 31:18.466 --> 31:19.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It's a lot of work. 31:19.566 --> 31:21.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And don't think they got it right 31:21.166 --> 31:22.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% the first time. 31:22.333 --> 31:23.333 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% I'm sure... Really? 31:23.333 --> 31:24.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% ...a piece may have broken, 31:24.666 --> 31:26.200 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% they threw it in the pile, 31:26.200 --> 31:28.133 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% they had to start all over again. 31:28.133 --> 31:30.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% You can see where they had to hollow out 31:30.600 --> 31:33.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% the rock crystal. Right. 31:33.200 --> 31:37.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Now, there's a lot of interest in these watches. 31:37.533 --> 31:39.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% A very strong market for this today. 31:39.300 --> 31:41.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Probably 31:41.100 --> 31:42.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% in the neighborhood, at auction, 31:42.800 --> 31:44.100 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5% of $20,000 31:44.100 --> 31:46.933 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% to $30,000. Amazing, hmm. 31:46.933 --> 31:48.900 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% That's, that's unbelievable to hear. 31:48.900 --> 31:50.333 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% Does the fact that it may be 31:50.333 --> 31:52.166 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% a Judaic piece add any value 31:52.166 --> 31:53.400 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% or take any value from... 31:53.400 --> 31:54.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's interesting you bring that up, 31:54.633 --> 31:56.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% because it's a six-pointed star. 31:56.233 --> 31:57.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Austria and Hungary, 31:57.233 --> 31:58.566 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% they used this form a lot 31:58.566 --> 32:01.600 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and it didn't necessarily have anything to do 32:01.600 --> 32:03.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% with Judaica. 32:03.366 --> 32:05.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Thanks for bringing it in. Thank you. 32:15.266 --> 32:18.900 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% WOMAN: Well, my father-in-law was clearing out a house, 32:18.900 --> 32:21.166 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and the owner said that he was going to get rid of 32:21.166 --> 32:24.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% a pile of junk, and asked him if he wanted to keep any of it. 32:24.800 --> 32:26.966 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And my mother-in-law put a print on it 32:26.966 --> 32:30.100 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and hung it in her office for about ten years. 32:30.100 --> 32:33.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And then when she retired, she put it up in the attic. 32:33.233 --> 32:35.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% After about five years or so in the attic, 32:35.800 --> 32:37.133 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% she gave it to me, 32:37.133 --> 32:40.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and it hung in my house for about five years, 32:40.033 --> 32:42.800 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% until I decided that I would change the frame. 32:42.800 --> 32:47.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And when I opened it up, I saw this striking girl. 32:47.000 --> 32:49.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I immediately was drawn to her. 32:49.633 --> 32:52.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I didn't recognize the name "Benton" on the bottom. 32:52.533 --> 32:54.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I started to do a little research, 32:54.466 --> 32:58.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and then I found out it was Thomas Hart Benton's drawing. 32:58.233 --> 33:01.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So is it still that original frame that it was in? 33:01.833 --> 33:03.300 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% It's the same frame. Okay, okay. 33:03.300 --> 33:04.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And the same matte, 33:04.600 --> 33:07.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and I just protected it with U.V. glass, and I've really 33:07.133 --> 33:08.900 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% been enjoying it in my house. 33:08.900 --> 33:11.166 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% And now, what do you know about the subject of the drawing? 33:11.166 --> 33:12.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's a study for a mural 33:12.833 --> 33:16.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that's hanging at the Indiana University. 33:16.300 --> 33:17.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I think the mural was commissioned 33:17.966 --> 33:22.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% for the state fair in the early 1900s. 33:22.733 --> 33:25.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And if you see the picture of the mural, 33:25.100 --> 33:27.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% the little girl is right in the middle. 33:27.866 --> 33:29.166 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% It is a Benton drawing, 33:29.166 --> 33:31.133 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% and it's a really wonderful Benton drawing. 33:31.133 --> 33:34.500 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% He's known as an American regionalist painter, primarily. 33:34.500 --> 33:36.666 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% This is executed in pen and ink. 33:36.666 --> 33:39.533 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% The drawings are not quite as well known as the paintings. 33:39.533 --> 33:41.933 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% There are these very sort of active, sinewy figures 33:41.933 --> 33:43.333 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% in a lot of the paintings. 33:43.333 --> 33:45.900 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% There are landscapes that are very, very distinctive. 33:45.900 --> 33:48.000 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% He was also known as a mural painter. 33:48.000 --> 33:50.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% He actually was commissioned to paint this mural cycle 33:50.500 --> 33:53.866 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% for the Chicago World's Fair in 1933, 33:53.866 --> 33:57.266 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% and it represented the Indiana pavilion at the fair. 33:57.266 --> 34:00.766 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% And he spent a lot of research, a lot of time in Indiana. 34:00.766 --> 34:04.333 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% He came up with the idea of a cycle that represented 34:04.333 --> 34:06.233 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% the history of industry in Indiana 34:06.233 --> 34:08.100 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% and the history of culture in Indiana. 34:08.100 --> 34:10.566 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% And it deals with the cultural aspect of the parks, 34:10.566 --> 34:12.433 align:left position:67.5% line:83% size:22.5% circuses, the press and-- 34:12.433 --> 34:15.333 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% here's the controversial part-- the Klan. 34:15.333 --> 34:16.700 align:left position:55% line:89% size:35% He was anxious 34:16.700 --> 34:19.766 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% to show history as it really was in Indiana, 34:19.766 --> 34:23.266 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% and he wanted to represent the Ku Klux Klan. 34:23.266 --> 34:27.033 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% There was a real controversial aspect to that. 34:27.033 --> 34:28.333 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% And he had to get permission to do it, 34:28.333 --> 34:30.900 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and he went through the State House, and so on. 34:30.900 --> 34:32.300 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% Ultimately, it was granted. 34:32.300 --> 34:36.000 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% This drawing represents a figure in panel number ten. 34:36.000 --> 34:40.900 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% And this panel depicted the racial issues in Indiana 34:40.900 --> 34:42.366 align:left position:57.5% line:5% size:32.5% in the 1920s, apparently, 34:42.366 --> 34:45.266 align:left position:45% line:5% size:45% from what research I've been able to do. 34:45.266 --> 34:46.400 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% When the fair was over, 34:46.400 --> 34:48.133 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% the whole thing went into storage. 34:48.133 --> 34:49.666 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% Apparently, nobody really wanted it. 34:49.666 --> 34:52.066 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% And then at some point in the late '30s, 34:52.066 --> 34:54.033 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% the president of Indiana University decided 34:54.033 --> 34:55.966 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% that they'd like it for the university, 34:55.966 --> 34:58.366 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% and it was reinstalled in the university. 34:58.366 --> 35:00.566 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% But to this day, there's a big controversy 35:00.566 --> 35:03.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% over the aspect of the panel that deals with the Klan. 35:03.433 --> 35:06.866 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% But the whole situation has really changed in terms 35:06.866 --> 35:08.766 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% of marketability and things, 35:08.766 --> 35:11.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% because whereas these things were perhaps not very desirable 35:11.333 --> 35:13.400 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% in the past, there's tremendous interest 35:13.400 --> 35:14.500 align:left position:60% line:89% size:30% in this now. 35:14.500 --> 35:17.633 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% Images depicting Black history in America 35:17.633 --> 35:19.433 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% are very, very sought after. 35:19.433 --> 35:21.333 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% You had told me you had this appraised once, 35:21.333 --> 35:22.300 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% and they told you... 35:22.300 --> 35:24.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I had it appraised about ten years ago, 35:24.133 --> 35:25.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% in Philadelphia, and he said 35:25.533 --> 35:28.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that the art market was somewhat low, 35:28.166 --> 35:30.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and there was no market for African American art, 35:30.366 --> 35:33.800 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% so he said that, probably about $2,000. 35:33.800 --> 35:35.733 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% Well, that may have been the case there, 35:35.733 --> 35:37.233 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% or he may have been misinformed. 35:37.233 --> 35:38.766 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% It's certainly not the case now. 35:38.766 --> 35:41.366 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% A really finished Benton drawing of this kind of quality 35:41.366 --> 35:43.133 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and of such a fascinating subject matter, 35:43.133 --> 35:44.833 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% in today's market, 35:44.833 --> 35:47.166 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% I would say an auction estimate on this drawing 35:47.166 --> 35:48.633 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% conservatively would be somewhere in the 35:48.633 --> 35:50.766 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% perhaps $12,000 to $18,000 range. 35:50.766 --> 35:52.300 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% Really? 35:52.300 --> 35:53.466 align:left position:65% line:5% size:25% You really found a treasure 35:53.466 --> 35:55.366 align:left position:50% line:5% size:40% under that Monet print in that frame, 35:55.366 --> 35:58.066 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% and I really appreciate you bringing it to us today. 35:58.066 --> 35:59.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Thank you, thank you. You're welcome. 36:05.766 --> 36:08.966 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% Well, I brought a ceremonial sword 36:08.966 --> 36:10.766 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% that was given to my great-great-grandfather 36:10.766 --> 36:12.900 align:left position:55% line:89% size:35% in about 1856. 36:12.900 --> 36:17.166 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% And he later became the consul to Bavaria, 36:17.166 --> 36:19.733 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and I brought his certificate naming him as the consul. 36:19.733 --> 36:22.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Well, who was the sword presented by? 36:22.500 --> 36:25.766 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% It was presented by his men in the... 36:25.766 --> 36:28.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It was the Philadelphia Artillery Brigade 36:28.500 --> 36:29.900 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% in the Pennsylvania militia. 36:29.900 --> 36:31.566 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% And it was presented at the time 36:31.566 --> 36:33.633 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% also by the governor of Pennsylvania 36:33.633 --> 36:37.066 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and Simon Cameron, who eventually became 36:37.066 --> 36:38.766 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Lincoln's first secretary of war. 36:38.766 --> 36:40.033 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% Correct. 36:40.033 --> 36:41.866 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Do you know what that regiment was called? 36:41.866 --> 36:44.366 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% His regiment ultimately became the 27th Pennsylvania. 36:44.366 --> 36:47.400 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% At the time, they were just a militia brigade, right? 36:47.400 --> 36:48.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I found a neat reference to them. 36:48.733 --> 36:52.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% They're actually the Philadelphia Flying Artillery. 36:52.233 --> 36:53.533 align:left position:67.5% line:89% size:22.5% Oh, okay. 36:53.533 --> 36:55.466 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% And he's the man that actually founded it. Okay. 36:55.466 --> 36:58.533 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% Which is why they were giving him this token of their esteem. 36:58.533 --> 37:00.666 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% It's got a beautiful presentation on the front, 37:00.666 --> 37:01.633 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% where it was presented 37:01.633 --> 37:05.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% by his men "To General Max Einstein." 37:05.566 --> 37:07.700 align:left position:75% line:77% size:15% Right. Wonderful presentation. 37:07.700 --> 37:12.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% The sword itself is made by the Ames Manufacturing Company 37:12.633 --> 37:14.033 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% in Chicopee, Massachusetts. 37:14.033 --> 37:16.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And it has the correct Ames mark on the back of the scabbard. 37:16.666 --> 37:20.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% This is pretty much the pinnacle of an Ames sword. 37:20.900 --> 37:22.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Beautifully executed. 37:22.366 --> 37:24.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It has the original silver handle 37:24.100 --> 37:27.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% with beautiful floral and geometric patterns on the grip. Mm-hmm. 37:27.633 --> 37:29.733 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Eagles everywhere. Right. 37:29.733 --> 37:31.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Eagles on the crossguard, 37:31.733 --> 37:33.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% eagles on the pommel cap. 37:33.400 --> 37:35.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Beautifully done sword. 37:35.000 --> 37:38.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% This was the top that Ames made. Wow. 37:38.433 --> 37:40.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Have you been able to do much research 37:40.433 --> 37:42.600 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% about when the sword was given to him? 37:42.600 --> 37:45.533 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% We have a book that mentions it. 37:45.533 --> 37:48.466 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% The book is called "The Jews of Philadelphia." 37:48.466 --> 37:50.433 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% And it's mentioned... no doubt, 37:50.433 --> 37:52.300 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% the author actually went to his home. 37:52.300 --> 37:54.533 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% He said it was hanging on the wall, 37:54.533 --> 37:56.933 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and there's a description of the presentation, 37:56.933 --> 37:58.600 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% and it mentions Cameron 37:58.600 --> 37:59.633 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and the governor of Pennsylvania, 37:59.633 --> 38:01.133 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% who I think was John Pollock. 38:01.133 --> 38:02.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And the appointment mentions 38:02.133 --> 38:04.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% where he was being made consul 38:04.033 --> 38:08.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% to His Majesty, the King of Bavaria. 38:08.300 --> 38:10.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And what's interesting about this 38:10.333 --> 38:13.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% is, not only is it an important piece of paper of history, 38:13.000 --> 38:16.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% it's also important because of who it's signed by. 38:16.633 --> 38:22.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% This one has a full ink signature all in his hand, 38:22.166 --> 38:23.733 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% deep colors, no fading. 38:23.733 --> 38:26.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's a beautiful signature. 38:26.166 --> 38:28.100 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% And if you notice, it's dated in 1861. 38:28.100 --> 38:31.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% That's early in Lincoln's presidency. 38:31.200 --> 38:34.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Also a wonderful thing to have with it. 38:34.266 --> 38:37.500 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It's not a sword that you'd ever decide to sell. Right. 38:37.500 --> 38:41.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So I'd insure it for $15,000. 38:41.133 --> 38:43.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% (chuckles) 38:43.833 --> 38:47.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's been hanging on a wall for years and years, you know, so... 38:47.533 --> 38:48.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And the appointment, 38:48.500 --> 38:50.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% with the good, clear signatures, 38:50.066 --> 38:54.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% is something you would need to insure for around $5,000. 38:54.200 --> 38:55.500 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% Okay, that's good to know. 38:55.500 --> 38:57.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Fantastic piece. 39:10.800 --> 39:14.133 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% These are incredibly intricate carvings made out of cork. 39:14.133 --> 39:16.566 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% They are depicting the Summer Palace 39:16.566 --> 39:18.833 align:left position:37.5% line:71% size:52.5% and the Winter Palace in Beijing. Yes. 39:18.833 --> 39:20.300 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% And they were done probably in 39:20.300 --> 39:22.900 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% the late 19th- early 20th century. 39:22.900 --> 39:25.266 align:left position:42.5% line:71% size:47.5% They're worth about $1,000 apiece. Uh-huh. 39:25.266 --> 39:26.833 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50% I think they're just lovely. 39:26.833 --> 39:28.500 align:left position:57.5% line:5% size:32.5% Thank you for bringing them in. 39:30.233 --> 39:32.866 align:left position:80% line:77% size:10% MAN: My dad made them, passed them on to me, so... 39:32.866 --> 39:34.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% APPRAISER: These types of miniature tools, 39:34.633 --> 39:35.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I wouldn't want to call them common, 39:35.933 --> 39:37.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% but they're not rare, either. 39:37.200 --> 39:39.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% What is rare is that you have this complete group. 39:39.800 --> 39:41.500 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% We know who made them. Right. 39:41.500 --> 39:44.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% They've been kept in the family and kept together like this. 39:44.333 --> 39:45.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% For insurance purposes, 39:45.900 --> 39:49.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% you would want to cover these for something around $4,000. 39:49.233 --> 39:51.266 align:left position:65% line:5% size:25% All right, that's very good. Yeah. 39:56.166 --> 39:58.766 align:left position:75% line:83% size:15% WOMAN: I know that it's a bulb pot. 39:58.766 --> 40:00.166 align:left position:60% line:83% size:30% It was in my grandmother's house 40:00.166 --> 40:02.100 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% the whole time I was growing up, 40:02.100 --> 40:03.933 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% and it was something that I had asked her, 40:03.933 --> 40:07.133 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% and when she passed away, I, I took it. 40:07.133 --> 40:08.300 align:left position:70% line:77% size:20% (laughs) What do you do with it now? 40:08.300 --> 40:10.200 align:left position:40% line:77% size:50% I plant bulbs in it. You put bulbs in it, okay. 40:10.200 --> 40:12.133 align:left position:62.5% line:83% size:27.5% (laughing): Yes. 40:12.133 --> 40:15.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Well, what we have here is actually a piece of pottery 40:15.366 --> 40:17.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% from the Boston area, 40:17.000 --> 40:20.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and it is called a Saturday Evening Girl bowl. 40:20.100 --> 40:22.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Saturday Evening Girl is a really interesting story. 40:22.200 --> 40:25.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And it actually comes from a group of philanthropists 40:25.866 --> 40:27.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% in Boston just around the turn of the century, 40:27.700 --> 40:31.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and they decided they wanted to give immigrant girls a wage, 40:31.566 --> 40:34.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and they'd pay them on Saturday to come in and decorate 40:34.933 --> 40:35.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% pottery and porcelain. 40:35.933 --> 40:37.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% The way this is done here is, 40:37.300 --> 40:39.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% they carve the surface of the pottery 40:39.933 --> 40:42.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and then they glaze around it. 40:42.733 --> 40:44.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And we know that this is Saturday Evening Girls 40:44.300 --> 40:45.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% because, on the bottom, 40:45.833 --> 40:47.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% we have here... It says "S.E.G." 40:47.066 --> 40:48.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% It says "S.E.G." 40:48.133 --> 40:50.266 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% I thought they were someone's initials. 40:50.266 --> 40:51.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% They are-- Saturday Evening Girls. 40:51.400 --> 40:54.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% But this is actually someone's initials here. 40:54.133 --> 40:57.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And that "S.G." stands for Sara Galner, 40:57.733 --> 41:00.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% who was one of the more important artists 41:00.200 --> 41:01.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that Saturday Evening Girls employed. 41:01.400 --> 41:05.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And below it is the date "9-11." 41:05.433 --> 41:07.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So it's done in September of 1911. 41:07.000 --> 41:09.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So not only do we know who made it, 41:09.133 --> 41:11.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% we know when it was made and where it was made. 41:11.066 --> 41:12.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And the fact of the matter is... Wow... 41:12.633 --> 41:14.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% ...you should be not using it as a bulb pot. 41:14.600 --> 41:15.966 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% (laughs): Oh, okay. 41:15.966 --> 41:17.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's worth probably-- it has a little hairline here-- 41:17.700 --> 41:19.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% but it's worth probably around $2,000. 41:19.666 --> 41:21.366 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% (breathlessly): Oh, my God. 41:21.366 --> 41:23.233 align:left position:65% line:89% size:25% (laughing) 41:23.233 --> 41:25.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Those are some lucky paperwhite bulbs, I'm telling you. 41:25.700 --> 41:27.800 align:left position:65% line:89% size:25% (laughing) 41:27.800 --> 41:29.900 align:left position:62.5% line:5% size:27.5% (laughing): Oh, I don't even want to think about 41:29.900 --> 41:31.666 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% what I've done with this pot. 41:41.200 --> 41:45.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% MAN: It belonged to my uncle, then my cousin got it. 41:45.633 --> 41:47.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Then my cousin died 41:47.000 --> 41:48.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and his wife asked me if I'd like to have it. 41:48.500 --> 41:50.033 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% Now, you're a train buff? 41:50.033 --> 41:51.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Not until this one. (laughs) 41:51.533 --> 41:53.833 align:left position:50% line:5% size:40% Do you know much about Lionel Company? 41:53.833 --> 41:55.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I know they've been in business 41:55.200 --> 41:57.533 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% a long time, but, uh... 41:57.533 --> 41:59.700 align:left position:42.5% line:5% size:47.5% Well, we'll fill in a few blanks for you. Okay. 41:59.700 --> 42:01.900 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% First of all, Lionel was actually the middle name 42:01.900 --> 42:03.466 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% of Joshua Lionel Cowen-- 42:03.466 --> 42:05.400 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% earlier Cohen, but later Cowen. 42:05.400 --> 42:09.066 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% He came over to the States, and in the late 1800s, 42:09.066 --> 42:13.000 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% he developed the flash powder that photographers use. 42:13.000 --> 42:14.166 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% And it was so successful, 42:14.166 --> 42:16.366 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% the Navy contracted to use this flash powder 42:16.366 --> 42:18.100 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% for mine detonation. 42:18.100 --> 42:19.500 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% This is how he got his stake 42:19.500 --> 42:21.366 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% and he could start the Lionel Train Company, 42:21.366 --> 42:24.000 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% which he thought of when he saw a small fan, 42:24.000 --> 42:25.866 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and he tried to figure out how to use it. 42:25.866 --> 42:27.666 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And he figured he'd put in a little motor, 42:27.666 --> 42:29.400 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and that's when he started with the toy trains. 42:29.400 --> 42:30.966 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% He's the one who invented this size, 42:30.966 --> 42:32.700 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% which is called standard gauge. 42:32.700 --> 42:34.866 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% And what he endeavored to do with standard gauge 42:34.866 --> 42:36.733 align:left position:62.5% line:83% size:27.5% was to make the most beautiful, 42:36.733 --> 42:39.333 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% luxurious trains for kids possible. 42:39.333 --> 42:40.566 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% And this is considered to be 42:40.566 --> 42:42.333 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% one of his greatest accomplishments, 42:42.333 --> 42:43.500 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% the Blue Comet. 42:43.500 --> 42:45.100 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% It came out in the early 1930s, 42:45.100 --> 42:48.000 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% about 1930 to 1938. 42:48.000 --> 42:50.366 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% This was actually based after a real train. 42:50.366 --> 42:52.600 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Oh, is it? 1929 to 1941, 42:52.600 --> 42:54.766 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% there's a train called the Blue Comet 42:54.766 --> 42:57.000 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% that ran a New Jersey Central Line 42:57.000 --> 42:59.233 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% down to Atlantic City and the Jersey Shore. 42:59.233 --> 43:00.566 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% It was called the seashore's 43:00.566 --> 43:02.066 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% finest train. 43:02.066 --> 43:04.466 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% And it was competing with Pennsylvania Railroad. 43:04.466 --> 43:07.700 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% It was painted blue because of the Jersey seashore. 43:07.700 --> 43:08.833 align:left position:52.5% line:89% size:37.5% And guess what? 43:08.833 --> 43:10.633 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% The Blue Comet, the Faye, 43:10.633 --> 43:12.333 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% the Westphal, and the Tempel here, 43:12.333 --> 43:14.566 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% all named after comets. 43:14.566 --> 43:15.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% No kidding. 43:15.666 --> 43:16.733 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% The train was so beautiful 43:16.733 --> 43:17.866 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% that people would actually wait for it 43:17.866 --> 43:18.833 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% to come down the tracks 43:18.833 --> 43:20.900 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% so they could watch it go by. 43:20.900 --> 43:23.500 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Three hours from door to door, that's what they advertised. 43:23.500 --> 43:27.100 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% And they advertised the finest in luxury. 43:27.100 --> 43:29.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And when Joshua Lionel Cowen created this train, 43:29.700 --> 43:31.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% that's what he wanted to do, as well. 43:31.133 --> 43:32.800 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% Let's take a look. 43:32.800 --> 43:37.100 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% The actual train had triple-cushioned mohair seats. 43:37.100 --> 43:39.333 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% They even show a bathroom and a commode. 43:39.333 --> 43:41.066 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% There was a smoking room for the gentlemen. 43:41.066 --> 43:42.400 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% There was an observation deck, 43:42.400 --> 43:44.366 align:left position:57.5% line:71% size:32.5% which you see in the back of this train... Right. 43:44.366 --> 43:46.033 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% And they had all the luxuries for that time. 43:46.033 --> 43:48.100 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Right. For a Lionel train, this is unheard of. 43:48.100 --> 43:49.666 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% You could never take the top off, 43:49.666 --> 43:52.466 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and of course it had the spectacular electric light. 43:52.466 --> 43:54.866 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% All the little details were thought of 43:54.866 --> 43:58.266 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% to make this like the actual-size Blue Comet. 43:58.266 --> 44:00.533 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% Now, at the time this was sold, 44:00.533 --> 44:02.400 align:left position:52.5% line:89% size:37.5% $70 to buy this 44:02.400 --> 44:04.833 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% in the 1930s, at the height of the Depression. 44:04.833 --> 44:07.466 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% You could buy a three- piece bedroom suite 44:07.466 --> 44:08.766 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% or you could buy a used Model T 44:08.766 --> 44:10.933 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% for that kind of money. Oh, my. 44:10.933 --> 44:12.033 align:left position:60% line:89% size:30% For auction, 44:12.033 --> 44:14.500 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% I would put this at estimate $8,000 44:14.500 --> 44:16.033 align:left position:62.5% line:77% size:27.5% to $10,000. Oh, my. 44:16.033 --> 44:19.166 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% It's sold as much as $11,500. 44:19.166 --> 44:20.333 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% Good heavens. 44:20.333 --> 44:24.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Uh, makes me want to treasure it even more. 44:33.966 --> 44:37.233 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% WOMAN: I bought it at an auction about 25 years ago. 44:37.233 --> 44:40.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Paid around $15. 44:40.533 --> 44:42.466 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% I bought it because I like daisies, 44:42.466 --> 44:44.266 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and I don't know anything about pottery. 44:44.266 --> 44:46.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% My girlfriend Michelle collects pottery, 44:46.100 --> 44:48.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and she saw it and told me 44:48.166 --> 44:50.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that it was an early Roseville piece. 44:50.600 --> 44:52.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It's Rozane Ware. 44:52.133 --> 44:54.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% She looked it up in a book and said the value 44:54.700 --> 44:58.033 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% for a mint condition was around $3,000. 44:58.033 --> 44:59.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So since it's not mint condition, 44:59.466 --> 45:01.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I was wondering what the value was. 45:01.133 --> 45:04.566 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% This particular line is called Della Robbia. 45:04.566 --> 45:06.300 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% The original Della Robbias were Italian, 45:06.300 --> 45:08.166 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% but the name was taken 45:08.166 --> 45:09.966 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% for this particular line, 45:09.966 --> 45:13.366 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% which was designed by Frederick Hurten Rhead. 45:13.366 --> 45:15.666 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% Now, Frederick Rhead was an Englishman, 45:15.666 --> 45:19.533 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and he came over to this country in about 1902, 45:19.533 --> 45:21.133 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% and he joined Roseville in 1904, 45:21.133 --> 45:24.133 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and he really transformed what they were doing over there. 45:24.133 --> 45:25.666 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% It gave them a really wonderful 45:25.666 --> 45:28.900 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% Arts and Crafts look, but with a lot of style, 45:28.900 --> 45:30.766 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% a lot of English style. 45:30.766 --> 45:34.966 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% And he designed 72 different models, 45:34.966 --> 45:36.033 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5% starting in 1906. 45:36.033 --> 45:38.333 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% Now, sometimes they're actually done 45:38.333 --> 45:41.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% by his hand, but often they're done by other workers. 45:41.366 --> 45:44.133 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% Most Roseville we know 45:44.133 --> 45:47.466 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% as being cast and having little hand-painting. 45:47.466 --> 45:50.766 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% This is entirely hand-carved and -excised. 45:50.766 --> 45:52.700 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% Now, there were two 45:52.700 --> 45:55.066 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% different generations of Della Robbia. 45:55.066 --> 45:56.933 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% This is the early one, 45:56.933 --> 45:58.033 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% with many beautiful colors. 45:58.033 --> 45:59.966 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% The later one is usually done 45:59.966 --> 46:03.866 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% in one or two complementary colors. 46:03.866 --> 46:06.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% There are initials on the bottom, too. 46:06.466 --> 46:09.733 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Which are probably from the person who did the carving. 46:09.733 --> 46:13.066 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% That is the initial of the worker. 46:13.066 --> 46:15.033 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% And underneath, we'll see the "Rozane Ware," 46:15.033 --> 46:17.300 align:left position:70% line:83% size:20% which is a particular time period 46:17.300 --> 46:19.333 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% in Roseville history, where they would sign 46:19.333 --> 46:22.066 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% their pieces with this medallion. 46:22.066 --> 46:23.766 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% Now, there's some damage here. 46:23.766 --> 46:26.866 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% There's little chips on the enameling. 46:26.866 --> 46:28.366 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% You can have it repaired if you wish. 46:28.366 --> 46:32.500 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% Per chip, it'll cost maybe $100 to $150. 46:32.500 --> 46:34.533 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% Most pieces of Della Robbia 46:34.533 --> 46:38.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% have some kind of damage to them, or restoration, 46:38.566 --> 46:42.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% because it's a very porous, low-fired item. 46:42.233 --> 46:43.400 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% Because this piece, 46:43.400 --> 46:45.566 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% with its lovely daisies-- 46:45.566 --> 46:47.600 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% which also looks great from the top, by the way-- 46:47.600 --> 46:51.866 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% is so wonderful, so great, so rare, 46:51.866 --> 46:54.400 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% even with all these little flakes, 46:54.400 --> 46:55.700 align:left position:62.5% line:89% size:27.5% at auction, 46:55.700 --> 46:56.933 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% we would certainly put that 46:56.933 --> 46:59.000 align:left position:65% line:83% size:25% at $10,000 to $15,000. 46:59.000 --> 47:01.266 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% You're kidding! 47:01.266 --> 47:02.933 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% Okay. 47:02.933 --> 47:04.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Right now, my husband's jumping up and down, 47:04.433 --> 47:06.533 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% saying, "Sell, sell, sell!" (laughing) 47:20.200 --> 47:22.833 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% These came down to me from my great-grandfather, 47:22.833 --> 47:26.000 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% who acquired them out in, uh, Nebraska. 47:26.000 --> 47:29.700 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% He ran the government store among the Indians 47:29.700 --> 47:31.666 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% from 1871 to 1873. 47:31.666 --> 47:34.633 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% And while he was out there, of course, he interacted 47:34.633 --> 47:37.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% with the various tribes that came through, 47:37.500 --> 47:39.766 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% and this is just a small sampling 47:39.766 --> 47:41.800 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% of the items he brought back. 47:41.800 --> 47:43.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I think I'll start 47:43.766 --> 47:45.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% with the trunk up on the top here. 47:45.833 --> 47:47.266 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% These are called parfleche trunks. 47:47.266 --> 47:49.866 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% Now, normally, they were in an envelope size. 47:49.866 --> 47:51.800 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% They would be much flatter, 47:51.800 --> 47:53.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and they were used to store meat. 47:53.533 --> 47:54.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% A big trunk like this-- 47:54.733 --> 47:56.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% there was only a couple of groups 47:56.500 --> 47:58.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that made these trunks, and they were more for clothing. 47:58.933 --> 48:00.166 align:left position:82.5% line:89% size:7.5% Oh. 48:00.166 --> 48:01.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% They're made out of buffalo rawhide. 48:01.666 --> 48:04.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% The paint is probably a Chinese vermilion 48:04.233 --> 48:05.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that was traded out onto the Plains, 48:05.933 --> 48:08.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and a black, which was probably charcoal. 48:08.200 --> 48:11.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% This probably dates to about the 1830s or '40s. 48:11.566 --> 48:12.733 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% Uh-huh. 48:12.733 --> 48:15.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% The second piece, they call these possible bags. 48:15.733 --> 48:17.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% You can put anything possible in them. 48:17.833 --> 48:19.200 align:left position:65% line:89% size:25% Good name. 48:19.200 --> 48:20.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It was used to store clothing and things like that. 48:20.966 --> 48:23.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And they weren't worn, they were just 48:23.100 --> 48:24.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% put on the inside of a teepee or an earth lodge. 48:24.666 --> 48:25.700 align:left position:72.5% line:89% size:17.5% Mm-hmm. 48:25.700 --> 48:27.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% This one is really nice 48:27.000 --> 48:29.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% because you can pinpoint-date it. 48:29.133 --> 48:30.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It has three different style beads. 48:30.766 --> 48:33.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It has a really fine seed bead, 48:33.500 --> 48:37.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and then it has a size we call a real bead, 48:37.266 --> 48:39.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and then it has the larger-sized pony beads. 48:39.366 --> 48:41.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% These are called pony beads 48:41.000 --> 48:43.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% because they were brought out on pack horses, ponies. 48:43.000 --> 48:44.400 align:left position:77.5% line:89% size:12.5% Okay. 48:44.400 --> 48:46.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% This is made out of buffalo hide, 48:46.166 --> 48:48.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and because of all these three size beads, 48:48.233 --> 48:50.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% we can date this right to about the 1840s. 48:50.566 --> 48:51.600 align:left position:80% line:89% size:10% Wow. 48:51.600 --> 48:53.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Then we have an elk antler quirt. 48:53.966 --> 48:56.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% These are used as a horse whip and also as a weapon. 48:56.866 --> 48:59.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% They'd clout an enemy on horseback with this. 48:59.133 --> 49:01.033 align:left position:30% line:71% size:60% Mm-hmm, it's, it's quite substantial. Yeah. 49:01.033 --> 49:04.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And that has a nice trade cloth strap 49:04.066 --> 49:05.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% with some minimal beadwork 49:05.533 --> 49:08.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and a beautiful buffalo-hide lash on it. 49:08.466 --> 49:09.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And last but not least, 49:09.566 --> 49:11.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% we have a elk horn scraper 49:11.966 --> 49:14.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% the women would use to, to clean their hides. 49:14.900 --> 49:16.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% This is a particularly nice one. 49:16.666 --> 49:19.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% These dots probably represent hides. 49:19.266 --> 49:20.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% It's a tally, it's a... Oh! 49:20.633 --> 49:22.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's how many hides they, they skinned with it. 49:22.000 --> 49:23.233 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% Oh, for heaven's sake. 49:23.233 --> 49:26.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% This one has wonderful iconography, 49:26.800 --> 49:30.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% especially these military figures up here. 49:30.700 --> 49:32.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% The type of uniforms they're wearing 49:32.133 --> 49:35.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% date to the late 18th- early 19th century. 49:35.766 --> 49:37.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's kind of difficult to say exactly 49:37.700 --> 49:39.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% which tribe made these objects, 49:39.800 --> 49:44.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% but since he was in Nebraska, the Pawnee were in Nebraska, 49:44.133 --> 49:45.600 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% the Iowa were near there, 49:45.600 --> 49:47.566 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and the Sac-Fox were near there. 49:47.566 --> 49:49.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I have to tell you, in the ten years 49:49.933 --> 49:51.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I've been doing "Antiques Roadshow," 49:51.300 --> 49:53.500 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% these are the finest things I've ever seen. Really? 49:53.500 --> 49:54.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Yeah, they're, they're absolutely beautiful. 49:54.900 --> 49:56.566 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% Oh, I'm so thrilled, I'm so thrilled. 49:56.566 --> 49:58.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Starting with the parfleche trunk, 49:58.633 --> 50:00.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I would put a auction value 50:00.866 --> 50:02.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% of about $20,000 to $30,000 on this. 50:02.800 --> 50:04.033 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% Oh, my goodness. 50:04.033 --> 50:05.233 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% (laughs) 50:05.233 --> 50:06.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% The possible bag, 50:06.400 --> 50:08.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I'm going to put $30,000 to $50,000. 50:08.600 --> 50:09.800 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% Mmm. 50:09.800 --> 50:11.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% The elk horn quirt, 50:11.400 --> 50:14.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% which is one of the finest ones I've ever seen, 50:14.833 --> 50:17.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I'm going to put $30,000 to $50,000 on that. 50:17.200 --> 50:18.400 align:left position:67.5% line:83% size:22.5% (laughs): Oh, my goodness, oh! 50:18.400 --> 50:21.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% The scraper is a masterpiece. 50:21.066 --> 50:23.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% This is the finest elk horn scraper I've ever seen. 50:23.766 --> 50:25.166 align:left position:80% line:89% size:10% Mmm. 50:25.166 --> 50:27.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And conservatively, I'm going to put 50:27.000 --> 50:29.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% an estimate of $50,000 to $70,000 on it. 50:29.100 --> 50:30.400 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% Oh, my word, I'm just... 50:30.400 --> 50:32.300 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% I'm just blown away, I really am. 50:32.300 --> 50:33.466 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% That's wonderful. 50:33.466 --> 50:34.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So, just these four pieces, 50:34.700 --> 50:38.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I would conservatively say $130,000 to $200,000. 50:38.966 --> 50:40.733 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Well, they're, they're real treasures, and... 50:40.733 --> 50:42.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% They are absolutely treasures. 50:42.700 --> 50:44.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And I'm, I'm so pleased that we have retained them 50:44.666 --> 50:47.066 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% and they can be passed down through the generations. 50:47.066 --> 50:49.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I'm glad you have, too. 50:57.000 --> 50:58.433 align:left position:42.5% line:5% size:47.5% PEÑA: You're watching 50:58.433 --> 51:01.000 align:left position:42.5% line:77% size:47.5% PEÑA: And now it's time for the "Roadshow" Feedback Booth. 51:01.000 --> 51:04.466 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% This is our 90-year-old bean pot-- not really-- 51:04.466 --> 51:09.000 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% um, worth millions-- not really-- but $15. 51:09.000 --> 51:10.366 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% And we had a great day today. 51:10.366 --> 51:11.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% We did. 51:11.300 --> 51:12.633 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% We brought our "antiques" sign, 51:12.633 --> 51:14.900 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% but we can't find the one that says "roadshow." 51:14.900 --> 51:16.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% We brought this book, which we thought was 51:16.300 --> 51:18.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% a first edition of "To Kill a Mockingbird," 51:18.300 --> 51:19.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and it's not. 51:19.633 --> 51:21.333 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50% Turns out it's not-- it has a barcode on it. 51:21.333 --> 51:22.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% In 1960, they didn't have barcodes, 51:22.966 --> 51:24.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% so, um, probably should have thought of that 51:24.533 --> 51:25.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% before I brought it in. 51:25.900 --> 51:28.300 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% Mom, you know that rosary you thought we'd fight over 51:28.300 --> 51:30.200 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5% when you passed away, 51:30.200 --> 51:32.466 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% and you, we could take it out of your coffin? 51:32.466 --> 51:34.166 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5% Well, you can take it with you, 51:34.166 --> 51:36.333 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5% 'cause it's not worth anything. 51:36.333 --> 51:38.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% We still may fight for it, though! (laughs) 51:38.433 --> 51:40.033 align:left position:10% line:11% size:80% I brought in my Baltimore Colts 51:40.033 --> 51:42.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% 1970 Super Bowl World Champions ball 51:42.700 --> 51:44.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% autographed by most of the team, 51:44.733 --> 51:48.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and they appraised it today at about $2,000 or $3,000, 51:48.800 --> 51:51.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% which is a couple of thousand more than I thought 51:51.666 --> 51:52.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% it was going to be. 51:52.933 --> 51:55.833 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% And I found out that my vase here that I believed 51:55.833 --> 51:59.600 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% was possibly worth a lot of money is only worth about $100. 51:59.600 --> 52:01.633 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% But I certainly had fun. 52:01.633 --> 52:03.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% We thought it was worth a billion. 52:03.366 --> 52:04.766 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% (both laugh) 52:04.766 --> 52:07.133 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55%   And I emailed all my friends, and I told them I was coming 52:07.133 --> 52:08.866 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% to the Antiques Roadshow. 52:08.866 --> 52:11.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% And if these were going to price high, I was leaving here, 52:11.200 --> 52:12.633 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% and I was driving straight to New York 52:12.633 --> 52:16.033 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% and put them on the auction-- and not come back to work. 52:16.033 --> 52:18.933 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% But the value of this was $300 and this was $300. 52:18.933 --> 52:21.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% So Monday, I'll see you at work. 52:21.233 --> 52:23.033 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% Take care, thank you. 52:23.033 --> 52:24.333 align:left position:42.5% line:5% size:47.5% PEÑA: Thanks for watching. 52:24.333 --> 52:26.900 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% See you next time on "Antiques Roadshow."