1 00:00:00,833 --> 00:00:03,466 ♪ ♪ 2 00:00:05,200 --> 00:00:08,166 APPRAISER: I've been doing the Antiques Roadshow for 12 years. 3 00:00:08,166 --> 00:00:11,133 This is one of the few authentic masks I've found. 4 00:00:11,133 --> 00:00:12,700 (hisses) 5 00:00:12,700 --> 00:00:14,933 (laughing): That's amazing. 6 00:00:14,933 --> 00:00:16,566 (laughing): Oh, my goodness. 7 00:00:16,566 --> 00:00:17,800 Oh, my goodness! 8 00:00:20,133 --> 00:00:25,000 ♪ ♪ 9 00:00:36,200 --> 00:00:37,566 CORAL PEÑA: Back in 2007, 10 00:00:37,566 --> 00:00:39,300 "Antiques Roadshow" kicked off the season 11 00:00:39,300 --> 00:00:40,966 with our second visit to Baltimore, Maryland, 12 00:00:40,966 --> 00:00:43,600 where many wonderful treasures had been hiding. 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:44,833 It's a lovely desk, 14 00:00:44,833 --> 00:00:46,400 but you found something in the desk. 15 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:47,600 Yes, I did. 16 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,833 When I was cleaning it out to bring it, 17 00:00:49,833 --> 00:00:52,433 I found this envelope. 18 00:00:52,433 --> 00:00:53,700 I have to tell you, 19 00:00:53,700 --> 00:00:55,833 in the ten years I've been doing "Antiques Roadshow," 20 00:00:55,833 --> 00:00:57,366 these are the finest things I've ever seen. 21 00:00:57,366 --> 00:00:59,400 Really? Oh, I'm so thrilled. Yeah, they're absolutely beautiful. 22 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:00,833 I'm so thrilled. 23 00:01:00,833 --> 00:01:02,400 PEÑA: What did our guests uncover? 24 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,533 And what is it all worth today? 25 00:01:04,533 --> 00:01:07,666 You'll find out in the first hour of "Vintage Baltimore." 26 00:01:09,733 --> 00:01:12,266 This desk belonged to my grandmother. 27 00:01:12,266 --> 00:01:14,900 I can remember it when I was a little kid, 28 00:01:14,900 --> 00:01:19,033 and I just always admired it. 29 00:01:19,033 --> 00:01:21,633 And now it's mine, and I treasure it very much. 30 00:01:21,633 --> 00:01:22,600 It's a lovely desk. 31 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,500 You brought it here to the Roadshow, 32 00:01:24,500 --> 00:01:25,900 and did you find anything interesting about it? 33 00:01:25,900 --> 00:01:27,200 Well, actually, 34 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:32,233 I learned that it's not as rare as I had thought. 35 00:01:32,233 --> 00:01:33,500 But you found something in the desk. 36 00:01:33,500 --> 00:01:34,633 Yes, I did. 37 00:01:34,633 --> 00:01:37,666 When I was cleaning it out to bring it, 38 00:01:37,666 --> 00:01:41,400 I found this envelope that contained 39 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:44,533 an old photo of a sports team. 40 00:01:44,533 --> 00:01:47,533 It's an old Western Union telegraph envelope, 41 00:01:47,533 --> 00:01:51,000 and it says "Chicago Ball Team 1885." 42 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:55,333 And this was your grandfather's handwriting, I assume? 43 00:01:55,333 --> 00:01:58,633 No, it-- actually, it's my great-grandfather. 44 00:01:58,633 --> 00:02:00,900 Well, why don't we take a look at what's in the envelope? 45 00:02:02,600 --> 00:02:03,700 And we see it's a souvenir. 46 00:02:03,700 --> 00:02:07,333 "Dedication of the Chicago Ball Park, 47 00:02:07,333 --> 00:02:10,166 Saturday, June 6, 1885." 48 00:02:10,166 --> 00:02:13,233 Now, the Chicago Ball Park became known 49 00:02:13,233 --> 00:02:14,700 as West Side Park, 50 00:02:14,700 --> 00:02:17,066 and that's where the Chicago White Stockings played. 51 00:02:17,066 --> 00:02:20,066 Now, the Chicago White Stockings was the name of the team 52 00:02:20,066 --> 00:02:22,566 that would later become the Chicago Cubs. 53 00:02:22,566 --> 00:02:23,566 They're in the National League. 54 00:02:23,566 --> 00:02:24,566 Oh, my. 55 00:02:24,566 --> 00:02:26,600 They actually start in 1876. 56 00:02:26,600 --> 00:02:29,066 So here we are, 1885, this is ten years later, 57 00:02:29,066 --> 00:02:30,433 and they needed a new park. 58 00:02:30,433 --> 00:02:35,600 And this is the dedication souvenir program from that day. 59 00:02:35,600 --> 00:02:37,666 They played the St. Louis Maroons, 60 00:02:37,666 --> 00:02:38,900 and they ended up winning the game. 61 00:02:38,900 --> 00:02:40,500 Let's open up the program 62 00:02:40,500 --> 00:02:41,733 and see what's inside, shall we? Okay. 63 00:02:41,733 --> 00:02:45,766 Here we have an actual image of the West Side Park, 64 00:02:45,766 --> 00:02:48,166 and on the bottom, we have a team photograph. 65 00:02:48,166 --> 00:02:50,366 They were captained by a gentleman named Cap Anson. 66 00:02:50,366 --> 00:02:53,166 He was probably the 19th century's greatest hitter. 67 00:02:53,166 --> 00:02:55,466 Oh, my. 68 00:02:55,466 --> 00:02:59,000 Also on the team was Mike "King" Kelly. Wow. 69 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:01,666 One of the greatest catchers of his day, 70 00:03:01,666 --> 00:03:03,300 and famous, they made a song, 71 00:03:03,300 --> 00:03:05,000 "Slide, Kelly, Slide." Uh-huh. 72 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,433 And then even more interesting here 73 00:03:06,433 --> 00:03:10,100 is a young man named William Sunday, Billy Sunday. 74 00:03:10,100 --> 00:03:11,633 He would go on to become one of the most 75 00:03:11,633 --> 00:03:13,900 influential evangelists in the United States. (chuckles) 76 00:03:13,900 --> 00:03:16,766 Now we can turn it around. 77 00:03:16,766 --> 00:03:17,900 We see here... 78 00:03:19,433 --> 00:03:21,766 It gives the names. 79 00:03:21,766 --> 00:03:23,833 Billy Sunday is underlined... Yeah, I don't know why. 80 00:03:23,833 --> 00:03:25,266 ...because he went on to become famous. 81 00:03:25,266 --> 00:03:27,600 Now, 19th-century baseball collectibles 82 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,366 are amongst the rarest and most desirable 83 00:03:30,366 --> 00:03:31,733 of all sports memorabilia. 84 00:03:31,733 --> 00:03:34,866 That you got going for you here. (chuckles) 85 00:03:34,866 --> 00:03:38,166 Then you have the Chicago Cubs, 86 00:03:38,166 --> 00:03:40,100 one of the most collected teams. 87 00:03:40,100 --> 00:03:42,766 And the condition's amazing. 88 00:03:42,766 --> 00:03:43,666 As far as value goes... 89 00:03:43,666 --> 00:03:45,066 Mm-hmm. I'm curious, 90 00:03:45,066 --> 00:03:46,933 what did this desk come in at? 91 00:03:46,933 --> 00:03:49,100 What was the price? This was $2,500. 92 00:03:49,100 --> 00:03:50,333 $2,500, which is... Yeah. 93 00:03:50,333 --> 00:03:52,100 Yeah, that's not bad, it's beautiful. Yeah. 94 00:03:52,100 --> 00:03:53,366 It's beautiful. Yes. 95 00:03:53,366 --> 00:03:55,266 But you could probably buy about 96 00:03:55,266 --> 00:03:57,266 four of these desks. 97 00:03:57,266 --> 00:04:00,166 (laughing) Because I would, I would estimate that 98 00:04:00,166 --> 00:04:02,300 between $8,000 and $12,000 at auction. 99 00:04:02,300 --> 00:04:04,566 Oh, my God, that was just... 100 00:04:04,566 --> 00:04:06,633 I had-- I just happened to bring it by chance. 101 00:04:06,633 --> 00:04:08,366 It's a remarkable, remarkable piece. 102 00:04:08,366 --> 00:04:09,766 I'm shocked. 103 00:04:09,766 --> 00:04:11,833 I'm really shocked. 104 00:04:25,566 --> 00:04:27,766 You've brought us a wonderful painting 105 00:04:27,766 --> 00:04:31,900 by an American artist named Willard Leroy Metcalf. 106 00:04:31,900 --> 00:04:33,500 And what do you know about the artist? 107 00:04:33,500 --> 00:04:35,900 I know that he was around New York, 108 00:04:35,900 --> 00:04:39,333 an upper-- lower Hudson Valley painter, and that 109 00:04:39,333 --> 00:04:40,700 he did a lot of work like this. 110 00:04:40,700 --> 00:04:42,966 I've seen some online. 111 00:04:42,966 --> 00:04:45,600 He did some work on Central Park, 112 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,600 which looked not unlike this. 113 00:04:47,600 --> 00:04:48,566 And beyond that, 114 00:04:48,566 --> 00:04:49,766 I know he's dead. 115 00:04:49,766 --> 00:04:51,366 (both laughing) 116 00:04:51,366 --> 00:04:52,733 Well, that's true, that's true. 117 00:04:52,733 --> 00:04:54,000 He actually was born 118 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:57,800 in 1858 and died in 1925. Okay. 119 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,000 And as opposed to being a Hudson River Valley, 120 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:03,733 or Hudson River School artist, he actually is 121 00:05:03,733 --> 00:05:06,433 one of the two premier American Impressionist 122 00:05:06,433 --> 00:05:07,766 landscape painters. Ah. 123 00:05:07,766 --> 00:05:10,500 And he was from Lowell, Massachusetts. Uh-huh. 124 00:05:10,500 --> 00:05:13,400 And is really associated with the Boston School there. 125 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,400 Like many of the Impressionist artists, 126 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:16,966 he went to France to study. 127 00:05:16,966 --> 00:05:18,866 Uh-huh. And then he came back 128 00:05:18,866 --> 00:05:21,000 and worked in, mostly in the Boston area, 129 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,700 but also in Maine and the Berkshires, 130 00:05:23,700 --> 00:05:25,200 Cornish, New Hampshire, Vermont, 131 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,433 and Old Lyme, Connecticut. 132 00:05:27,433 --> 00:05:29,300 And I think this was probably done 133 00:05:29,300 --> 00:05:31,466 in Old Lyme, because there are other examples 134 00:05:31,466 --> 00:05:32,866 that show the rolling hills 135 00:05:32,866 --> 00:05:35,400 and the rocky landscape like this. Interesting, interesting. 136 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:39,833 In 1898, he became part of a group called The Ten. 137 00:05:39,833 --> 00:05:42,333 And this was composed of ten Impressionist painters, 138 00:05:42,333 --> 00:05:44,600 including William Merritt Chase... Yep. 139 00:05:44,600 --> 00:05:47,166 Frank Benson, Edmund Tarbell, 140 00:05:47,166 --> 00:05:49,300 and the other premier Impressionist painter, 141 00:05:49,300 --> 00:05:51,033 John Twachtman. Okay. 142 00:05:51,033 --> 00:05:52,900 So he was in quite a distinguished group. Yes. 143 00:05:52,900 --> 00:05:55,900 Now, Metcalf really was almost purely known 144 00:05:55,900 --> 00:05:57,000 for doing landscapes. 145 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,333 You rarely see any figurative work by him. 146 00:05:59,333 --> 00:06:01,700 And around 1901, 147 00:06:01,700 --> 00:06:02,866 he suffered a depression 148 00:06:02,866 --> 00:06:04,866 after his wife had left him... Got it. 149 00:06:04,866 --> 00:06:07,833 ...and his best friend, Twachtman, had died. 150 00:06:07,833 --> 00:06:09,833 And so after that point, 151 00:06:09,833 --> 00:06:11,700 he almost has a revival. 152 00:06:11,700 --> 00:06:13,600 And he changes his palette 153 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:14,900 and his brushwork. 154 00:06:14,900 --> 00:06:16,200 So, this painting, which is signed 155 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,633 W.L. Metcalf and dated 1906... Right. 156 00:06:19,633 --> 00:06:21,266 ...was done after the depression 157 00:06:21,266 --> 00:06:23,666 and into this new era. 158 00:06:23,666 --> 00:06:25,400 And what he's doing at this time 159 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,266 is using very pastel colors. Uh-huh. 160 00:06:27,266 --> 00:06:29,466 So as you can see... Right, right. 161 00:06:29,466 --> 00:06:30,933 ...we've got wonderful pastel colors. 162 00:06:30,933 --> 00:06:33,566 He's letting the canvas show through in certain areas 163 00:06:33,566 --> 00:06:35,233 to show dimension. 164 00:06:35,233 --> 00:06:37,033 And he also is using sort of a feathery, 165 00:06:37,033 --> 00:06:39,133 brushy technique here. 166 00:06:39,133 --> 00:06:40,566 Now, tell me how you happened 167 00:06:40,566 --> 00:06:41,666 to acquire this. 168 00:06:41,666 --> 00:06:43,866 Well, this was found in the attic 169 00:06:43,866 --> 00:06:46,533 of my late wife's grandfather's house. 170 00:06:46,533 --> 00:06:49,033 He was the chairman of the board of the Pennsylvania Railroad. Wow, oh, wow. 171 00:06:49,033 --> 00:06:50,333 He had lots of paintings. 172 00:06:50,333 --> 00:06:51,700 This was in the attic, 173 00:06:51,700 --> 00:06:53,833 and I was up there stomping around one day... (laughs) 174 00:06:53,833 --> 00:06:56,100 And somebody said, "Oh, don't step on that," 175 00:06:56,100 --> 00:06:57,933 because it was face down. Right. 176 00:06:57,933 --> 00:06:59,366 And they picked it up, looked at it, 177 00:06:59,366 --> 00:07:00,733 and said, "Well, why don't you take this?" 178 00:07:00,733 --> 00:07:01,700 So I did. 179 00:07:01,700 --> 00:07:03,466 And it was at the time surrounded 180 00:07:03,466 --> 00:07:07,200 by the ugliest rococo frame you've ever seen, 181 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:11,500 which then my late wife replaced with this pecky cypress. 182 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:12,800 Right, and that, that particular frame 183 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:16,300 that you got rid of is actually the type that the artist 184 00:07:16,300 --> 00:07:18,766 would probably have, have used on it, because... 185 00:07:18,766 --> 00:07:20,900 Then I probably shouldn't have thrown it away, but... Probably not. 186 00:07:20,900 --> 00:07:22,833 And also, there's a title on the stretcher 187 00:07:22,833 --> 00:07:24,333 on the back, which... Yeah. 188 00:07:24,333 --> 00:07:27,166 Well, I think, I think it's "Reflections of Spring." Right. 189 00:07:27,166 --> 00:07:29,266 Have you ever had this evaluated? 190 00:07:29,266 --> 00:07:31,066 Yes, I acquired this 191 00:07:31,066 --> 00:07:34,933 probably in 1966, and in 1968, 192 00:07:34,933 --> 00:07:38,600 my wife, who was an art major, took it in to an art museum, 193 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:40,666 and they cleaned it up, and she said, 194 00:07:40,666 --> 00:07:42,066 "By the way, what do you think it's worth?" 195 00:07:42,066 --> 00:07:44,033 And they said, "Oh, well, about $3,000." 196 00:07:44,033 --> 00:07:46,100 Well, a painting like this, on the retail market, 197 00:07:46,100 --> 00:07:50,700 would generally sell for $150,000. 198 00:07:50,700 --> 00:07:52,533 (laughing) 199 00:07:52,533 --> 00:07:54,700 Wow, that's pretty good for something that was free. 200 00:07:54,700 --> 00:07:56,233 I think so. 201 00:07:56,233 --> 00:07:57,466 I think so. Holy smokes. 202 00:07:57,466 --> 00:07:59,300 Yeah, he's very, very collectible. That is, that... 203 00:07:59,300 --> 00:08:01,700 That, that's way over the top. Yeah. 204 00:08:01,700 --> 00:08:03,866 And fortunately, I've been hanging it out of the sunlight. 205 00:08:03,866 --> 00:08:05,833 Well, that's good, that's good. (laughs) 206 00:08:05,833 --> 00:08:07,300 I also think it could benefit from a cleaning. 207 00:08:07,300 --> 00:08:10,066 It's a little dingy from the varnish probably yellowing. 208 00:08:10,066 --> 00:08:11,266 35 years. 209 00:08:11,266 --> 00:08:12,533 And you've got a couple of 210 00:08:12,533 --> 00:08:13,933 little paint losses here along the edge. Yeah, yeah. 211 00:08:13,933 --> 00:08:16,066 And the frame that you found it in, 212 00:08:16,066 --> 00:08:17,633 if it were the original, 213 00:08:17,633 --> 00:08:20,933 then the value of the painting might be more 214 00:08:20,933 --> 00:08:22,033 by, let's say, another $10,000, 215 00:08:22,033 --> 00:08:22,966 depending on the quality of it. Right, yeah. 216 00:08:22,966 --> 00:08:24,033 Well, thank you for bringing 217 00:08:24,033 --> 00:08:25,400 such a wonderful painting in today. 218 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:26,766 Thank you for enlightening me, I enjoyed it. Oh, good. 219 00:08:26,766 --> 00:08:27,833 Great, thank you. 220 00:08:27,833 --> 00:08:29,533 I was afraid you were going to say, 221 00:08:29,533 --> 00:08:32,300 "Oh, nice $3,000, but it's actually worth 12 cents." 222 00:08:32,300 --> 00:08:34,600 Oh, no, no, no. (laughs) 223 00:08:40,700 --> 00:08:44,100 This piece is about 100 years old, 224 00:08:44,100 --> 00:08:47,600 and it was made by my grandfather, 225 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,300 who was a self-taught carpenter 226 00:08:51,300 --> 00:08:52,766 and almost illiterate. 227 00:08:52,766 --> 00:08:54,100 So, I'm very proud 228 00:08:54,100 --> 00:08:56,266 of the fact that he made this, 229 00:08:56,266 --> 00:08:58,300 and it's now in my possession. 230 00:08:58,300 --> 00:09:00,333 It's tramp work, 231 00:09:00,333 --> 00:09:04,100 and it's made from cigar boxes. 232 00:09:04,100 --> 00:09:06,533 My grandfather sat beside his wife 233 00:09:06,533 --> 00:09:07,600 while she was recuperating, 234 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,866 and with a penknife, 235 00:09:09,866 --> 00:09:12,166 carved all these little tiny pieces. 236 00:09:12,166 --> 00:09:14,666 Where was your family living? 237 00:09:14,666 --> 00:09:17,333 They were living in Williamsburg, Pennsylvania. 238 00:09:17,333 --> 00:09:18,666 Tramp art was 239 00:09:18,666 --> 00:09:20,600 home industry. 240 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:24,266 And everybody assumes that these were made out of cigar boxes. 241 00:09:24,266 --> 00:09:27,366 And I think part of them could have been made 242 00:09:27,366 --> 00:09:29,166 out of cigar boxes, 243 00:09:29,166 --> 00:09:31,233 but you know as well as I do, 244 00:09:31,233 --> 00:09:33,133 there are some pieces in here that are bigger 245 00:09:33,133 --> 00:09:35,000 than what a cigar box would be. Oh, yes. 246 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,233 I think what they really looked for was a wood 247 00:09:37,233 --> 00:09:40,166 that was kind of soft and easy to carve. 248 00:09:40,166 --> 00:09:44,266 I think he did this to show his skill at lamination, 249 00:09:44,266 --> 00:09:46,966 and it alternates maple and walnut. 250 00:09:46,966 --> 00:09:48,900 And what he did was, he took a strip 251 00:09:48,900 --> 00:09:51,700 the same width and depth all the way across 252 00:09:51,700 --> 00:09:53,066 and glued them together, 253 00:09:53,066 --> 00:09:54,866 and then he cut it to fit this 254 00:09:54,866 --> 00:09:56,133 and put this scallop in the front. 255 00:09:56,133 --> 00:09:58,800 And the thing that I love the most about this 256 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:03,200 is, it was a labor of love for him. 257 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:04,733 When I first walked up to it, 258 00:10:04,733 --> 00:10:07,233 the first thing I noticed were the hearts 259 00:10:07,233 --> 00:10:08,566 at the top of each mirror. You noticed the hearts? 260 00:10:08,566 --> 00:10:11,133 'Cause he made it for his sweetie, 261 00:10:11,133 --> 00:10:14,833 and something you almost never see 262 00:10:14,833 --> 00:10:16,533 is decoration on the bottom like that. 263 00:10:16,533 --> 00:10:18,200 He's paid a lot of attention to detail. 264 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:19,266 Right. 265 00:10:19,266 --> 00:10:20,366 Would you be surprised 266 00:10:20,366 --> 00:10:24,466 if I told you that this is worth 267 00:10:24,466 --> 00:10:25,833 $6,000 to $8,000? 268 00:10:25,833 --> 00:10:28,033 (gasps) 269 00:10:28,033 --> 00:10:29,200 Yes. 270 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:30,333 (laughs) 271 00:10:30,333 --> 00:10:33,000 Yes, I would be very surprised. 272 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:34,266 Well, that's the case. 273 00:10:34,266 --> 00:10:35,900 Well, it's going to stay in the family. 274 00:10:35,900 --> 00:10:37,033 I'll never sell it. 275 00:10:50,266 --> 00:10:52,400 It's not a good piece of pottery, okay? 276 00:10:52,400 --> 00:10:54,300 (laughs) This is a, a creamware piece. 277 00:10:54,300 --> 00:10:57,666 They put a transfer, a big decal on the surface, 278 00:10:57,666 --> 00:10:59,933 but it's called Rozane's Olympic Line. 279 00:10:59,933 --> 00:11:01,633 It's one of the rarest Rozane lines. 280 00:11:01,633 --> 00:11:04,133 And while you can get a piece of Rookwood brown glaze 281 00:11:04,133 --> 00:11:06,200 decorated with flowers... Right. 282 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:08,133 ...this size, worth $800 to $1,000, 283 00:11:08,133 --> 00:11:11,266 this one's worth between $2,000 and $3,000. 284 00:11:11,266 --> 00:11:12,833 That's great. It's a really extraordinary, 285 00:11:12,833 --> 00:11:14,966 rare piece of kind of low-end 286 00:11:14,966 --> 00:11:17,766 commercial American pottery, so congratulations. 287 00:11:17,766 --> 00:11:18,900 (laughing): Thank you. 288 00:11:20,966 --> 00:11:22,433 APPRAISER: It's pretty remarkable. 289 00:11:22,433 --> 00:11:23,666 It's just such a large form, 290 00:11:23,666 --> 00:11:25,966 and it's wonderfully inset with all of these coins, 291 00:11:25,966 --> 00:11:28,800 all dating from the 17th century. 292 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,433 It has a date on this here by the handle, which is dated 1687, 293 00:11:32,433 --> 00:11:34,466 and the coins all seem to pre-date that, 294 00:11:34,466 --> 00:11:36,533 so I would think at auction, you're likely to see 295 00:11:36,533 --> 00:11:39,666 something the range of between $20,000 and $25,000. 296 00:11:39,666 --> 00:11:41,300 Oh, my God. 297 00:11:41,300 --> 00:11:43,900 That's unbelievable. So it's quite a wonderful... 298 00:11:43,900 --> 00:11:45,900 That's remarkable, I would never have guessed. 299 00:11:48,133 --> 00:11:51,000 MAN: This is a print of something that happened 300 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,600 with the 15th Amendment 301 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,500 that I know very little about. 302 00:11:54,500 --> 00:11:55,733 I want to know a little more about it... 303 00:11:55,733 --> 00:11:57,033 Okay. ...and maybe you can help me. 304 00:11:57,033 --> 00:11:59,200 It was printed in 1870. 305 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,533 It's a hand-colored lithograph printed in Baltimore, 306 00:12:01,533 --> 00:12:03,966 which is nice, because we're finding it in Baltimore. 307 00:12:03,966 --> 00:12:07,400 And it's African American troops and fraternal organizations 308 00:12:07,400 --> 00:12:10,333 marching up the street in celebration of 309 00:12:10,333 --> 00:12:11,500 the 15th Amendment, 310 00:12:11,500 --> 00:12:13,166 and what's particularly nice about it 311 00:12:13,166 --> 00:12:17,766 as a period piece is, it's showing a very patriotic 312 00:12:17,766 --> 00:12:19,433 and positive view of African Americans 313 00:12:19,433 --> 00:12:21,500 in a period when there weren't that many. 314 00:12:21,500 --> 00:12:23,800 Period frame, looks like it's the old glass, 315 00:12:23,800 --> 00:12:26,000 just a very nice package. 316 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,833 Value, around $2,500. Really? 317 00:12:28,833 --> 00:12:30,700 That is wonderful. 318 00:12:30,700 --> 00:12:32,666 It's great, and I will keep it. (laughing) 319 00:12:32,666 --> 00:12:33,766 Enjoy it. 320 00:12:42,566 --> 00:12:44,633 WOMAN: My mother gave them to my husband, 321 00:12:44,633 --> 00:12:46,266 who admired them for many years. 322 00:12:46,266 --> 00:12:49,233 But my mother grew up on a beautiful farm 323 00:12:49,233 --> 00:12:52,233 in Greenville, Maine, 324 00:12:52,233 --> 00:12:55,866 beautiful mountain- lake region, and in the summer, 325 00:12:55,866 --> 00:12:57,533 they boarded travelers, 326 00:12:57,533 --> 00:13:00,666 and one of the boarders that came very often 327 00:13:00,666 --> 00:13:03,300 was a Baltimore socialite. 328 00:13:03,300 --> 00:13:05,066 Her name was Eleanor Duvall. 329 00:13:05,066 --> 00:13:07,200 A lot of these things we have 330 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,766 that belonged to her came through my mother, 331 00:13:09,766 --> 00:13:12,900 and then she gave these to us last summer. 332 00:13:12,900 --> 00:13:15,966 And when we brought them back home to Baltimore, 333 00:13:15,966 --> 00:13:18,066 we learned that they were Berges. 334 00:13:18,066 --> 00:13:20,833 He was a popular sculptor, 335 00:13:20,833 --> 00:13:23,633 turn of the century, and other than that, 336 00:13:23,633 --> 00:13:25,233 I don't know a whole lot more. 337 00:13:25,233 --> 00:13:26,566 Okay. 338 00:13:26,566 --> 00:13:29,700 Actually, we think his name was pronounced "Ber-guee." 339 00:13:29,700 --> 00:13:31,633 Berge, okay. Right, Edward Berge. 340 00:13:31,633 --> 00:13:32,900 Okay. And he was born in Baltimore 341 00:13:32,900 --> 00:13:36,266 and he studied here, at the Rinehart School, 342 00:13:36,266 --> 00:13:39,733 and he later became a teacher at the Maryland Institute. 343 00:13:39,733 --> 00:13:41,233 These pieces I would probably date 344 00:13:41,233 --> 00:13:43,533 from the 1920s or so. Mm-hmm. 345 00:13:43,533 --> 00:13:45,700 He was trained in a more classical tradition. 346 00:13:45,700 --> 00:13:47,466 The beginning of the 20th century, 347 00:13:47,466 --> 00:13:49,833 there was a lot of avant-garde work going on, 348 00:13:49,833 --> 00:13:52,333 but he chose this traditional path. Hm. 349 00:13:52,333 --> 00:13:54,833 They're beautiful. And that's exemplified in this wonderful nude... 350 00:13:54,833 --> 00:13:57,900 Yes. ...that's beautifully observed and beautifully modeled. 351 00:13:57,900 --> 00:14:00,233 What he's really known for are his fountains. 352 00:14:00,233 --> 00:14:01,733 This is actually his most famous piece. 353 00:14:01,733 --> 00:14:04,633 It's called "Wildflower," 354 00:14:04,633 --> 00:14:07,233 and he did a whole series of these pieces 355 00:14:07,233 --> 00:14:09,366 based on different flowers. 356 00:14:09,366 --> 00:14:10,900 And they're really quite wonderful. 357 00:14:10,900 --> 00:14:12,600 And I said it was a fountain, 358 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:14,633 and this is a reduction. Right. 359 00:14:14,633 --> 00:14:16,700 He did these in a few different sizes. 360 00:14:16,700 --> 00:14:18,666 Mm-hmm. This was the smallest size. 361 00:14:18,666 --> 00:14:21,400 He did one about 12 inches high, 362 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:23,033 and then there's another one 363 00:14:23,033 --> 00:14:24,766 that's about 40 inches high. 364 00:14:24,766 --> 00:14:26,533 And this one, 365 00:14:26,533 --> 00:14:29,833 not only is it signed by Berge himself, 366 00:14:29,833 --> 00:14:32,100 but in addition, it's signed here 367 00:14:32,100 --> 00:14:34,000 with "RBW"... RBW. 368 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:35,933 ...which is the Roman Bronze Works. Roman Bronze. 369 00:14:35,933 --> 00:14:37,400 They were in New York. 370 00:14:37,400 --> 00:14:39,166 The Roman Bronze had the models for these, 371 00:14:39,166 --> 00:14:40,466 and they were cast for a very long time 372 00:14:40,466 --> 00:14:42,166 by the family. 373 00:14:42,166 --> 00:14:43,500 And I think some of them were cast 374 00:14:43,500 --> 00:14:46,866 well into the 1950s, if not the 1960s. 375 00:14:46,866 --> 00:14:48,633 It's really beautifully done, 376 00:14:48,633 --> 00:14:51,000 very nicely detailed with a beautiful patina. 377 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:52,133 This one also is 378 00:14:52,133 --> 00:14:54,466 wonderful, because it has a great patina on it. 379 00:14:54,466 --> 00:14:56,066 Yeah. It's nicely modeled. 380 00:14:56,066 --> 00:14:58,400 This one has a different foundry on it. 381 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:02,000 The foundry here is the Zappo Foundry in New York. 382 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:03,233 And it was very common for artists 383 00:15:03,233 --> 00:15:06,300 to have their things cast at different foundries. 384 00:15:06,300 --> 00:15:07,300 I see. 385 00:15:07,300 --> 00:15:08,766 In terms of the value, 386 00:15:08,766 --> 00:15:12,333 this reduction of his piece called "Wildflower" 387 00:15:12,333 --> 00:15:14,533 at auction would probably bring between 388 00:15:14,533 --> 00:15:17,033 $2,000 and $3,000. 389 00:15:17,033 --> 00:15:18,933 No kidding. 390 00:15:18,933 --> 00:15:20,233 Oh, no. 391 00:15:20,233 --> 00:15:21,433 And this young lady here, 392 00:15:21,433 --> 00:15:23,566 again, beautifully cast bronze, 393 00:15:23,566 --> 00:15:25,633 I would think at auction would 394 00:15:25,633 --> 00:15:27,766 probably bring $3,000, $4,000. 395 00:15:27,766 --> 00:15:29,533 Oh, no. (laughs) 396 00:15:29,533 --> 00:15:30,633 Well, thanks for bringing them in. 397 00:15:30,633 --> 00:15:31,766 Well, thank you so much. Good. 398 00:15:45,933 --> 00:15:48,733 In 1970, my dad decided to watch a football game 399 00:15:48,733 --> 00:15:50,266 with my brother, and my mom and I 400 00:15:50,266 --> 00:15:53,466 took a little drive into the country with a relative, 401 00:15:53,466 --> 00:15:54,800 and we went to New Hope, Pennsylvania. 402 00:15:54,800 --> 00:15:58,466 She'd heard about a woodworker, George Nakashima. 403 00:15:58,466 --> 00:16:00,866 So we went to his workshop, met him, 404 00:16:00,866 --> 00:16:03,300 and took a look at some of the furniture. 405 00:16:03,300 --> 00:16:04,733 Within a couple of months, 406 00:16:04,733 --> 00:16:08,000 they decided they wanted a bench made 407 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,833 and communicated with him, and he sent a drawing to us 408 00:16:10,833 --> 00:16:13,800 of what that bench would look like, and here it is. 409 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:16,033 It's extraordinary that you have this drawing 410 00:16:16,033 --> 00:16:21,333 by George Nakashima, truly a master American craftsman. 411 00:16:21,333 --> 00:16:23,066 You met him in person? We did, we did. 412 00:16:23,066 --> 00:16:24,633 What was he like? It was pretty exciting. 413 00:16:24,633 --> 00:16:26,433 You know, I was 12 years old, and I just don't 414 00:16:26,433 --> 00:16:28,600 remember that much, I'm so sorry. 415 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,433 Well, I can maybe fill in a little bit of the blanks, 416 00:16:31,433 --> 00:16:34,466 because my brother went to school in the New Hope area. Really? 417 00:16:34,466 --> 00:16:37,866 And while he was driving around in his pickup truck, 418 00:16:37,866 --> 00:16:40,366 he met George, and George said to these bunch of teenagers, 419 00:16:40,366 --> 00:16:41,633 "If you guys," you know, 420 00:16:41,633 --> 00:16:43,366 "if you're driving around the countryside 421 00:16:43,366 --> 00:16:45,833 "and you see any big trees fallen down, 422 00:16:45,833 --> 00:16:47,333 call me first." (laughs) 423 00:16:47,333 --> 00:16:49,133 Really? Because, of course, he knew these kids 424 00:16:49,133 --> 00:16:50,800 were carousing in their pickup trucks at night. 425 00:16:50,800 --> 00:16:52,800 I've seen furniture 426 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,800 by George Nakashima, and the drawings, 427 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:57,333 You notice along the top of it, it says, 428 00:16:57,333 --> 00:17:00,366 "Please confirm if satisfactory." (laughs) 429 00:17:00,366 --> 00:17:02,500 I know-- I thought that was really special. 430 00:17:02,500 --> 00:17:03,533 He lays it out for you. 431 00:17:03,533 --> 00:17:05,100 He's even chosen the piece of wood, 432 00:17:05,100 --> 00:17:08,933 and in his studio, he had planks and planks of wood that... 433 00:17:08,933 --> 00:17:10,500 I do remember that. Do you? 434 00:17:10,500 --> 00:17:12,900 Yes, I do. Well, he was in love with wood. 435 00:17:12,900 --> 00:17:14,900 And the thing that fascinates me about him, 436 00:17:14,900 --> 00:17:17,400 this great master of mid-century furniture, 437 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:20,100 is that a lot of his contemporaries 438 00:17:20,100 --> 00:17:21,433 were making material 439 00:17:21,433 --> 00:17:24,800 in more a manufactured way, 440 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:26,333 and he loved the hand process. 441 00:17:26,333 --> 00:17:28,633 And so he chose these pieces so carefully, 442 00:17:28,633 --> 00:17:29,866 and you can really see that. 443 00:17:29,866 --> 00:17:32,366 I mean, it comes to life in this drawing, 444 00:17:32,366 --> 00:17:33,900 where he talks about the textured knot. 445 00:17:33,900 --> 00:17:35,600 And, of course, the textured knot is right here 446 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:36,900 in front of us. 447 00:17:36,900 --> 00:17:38,066 I mean, there's just no mistake 448 00:17:38,066 --> 00:17:41,133 that this drawing goes to this bench. 449 00:17:41,133 --> 00:17:42,366 It's just this combination-- 450 00:17:42,366 --> 00:17:43,700 of course, he's a Japanese American, 451 00:17:43,700 --> 00:17:45,066 born in Washington-- but this combination 452 00:17:45,066 --> 00:17:48,966 of Americana and also Japanese sensibilities. 453 00:17:48,966 --> 00:17:50,666 The top of this bench looks to me 454 00:17:50,666 --> 00:17:52,466 like a torii arch 455 00:17:52,466 --> 00:17:55,400 from Japan, coming into a Shinto temple. It does. 456 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:56,366 And when George came 457 00:17:56,366 --> 00:17:58,600 to the New Hope, Pennsylvania, area 458 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,500 in the '40s, he 459 00:18:00,500 --> 00:18:04,433 looked at Americana and looked at Windsor benches. 460 00:18:04,433 --> 00:18:08,166 So this is this 18th-century Windsor bench 461 00:18:08,166 --> 00:18:11,133 brought into a 20th-century sensibility. 462 00:18:11,133 --> 00:18:14,566 A lot of his furniture was done in a walnut. 463 00:18:14,566 --> 00:18:16,100 There was a lot of walnut in the Pennsylvania area. 464 00:18:16,100 --> 00:18:18,200 He also uses imported woods, as well, 465 00:18:18,200 --> 00:18:21,400 but, but this is a cherry, and probably indigenous. 466 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:22,433 And then these stiles 467 00:18:22,433 --> 00:18:24,133 are hickory. 468 00:18:24,133 --> 00:18:25,366 Any idea of its value? 469 00:18:25,366 --> 00:18:28,700 We had it valued by the Nakashima Group 470 00:18:28,700 --> 00:18:30,266 in early 2000, and it was, 471 00:18:30,266 --> 00:18:32,366 I think, around $6,000. 472 00:18:32,366 --> 00:18:33,800 But I'd love to get an update on that, 473 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,133 because I'd really like to have it insured. 474 00:18:36,133 --> 00:18:38,100 Well, your parents paid $375 for this? 475 00:18:38,100 --> 00:18:42,933 Yes. The market has exploded in Nakashima furniture. 476 00:18:42,933 --> 00:18:44,266 Benches like this at auction 477 00:18:44,266 --> 00:18:45,633 are selling for $40,000. 478 00:18:45,633 --> 00:18:47,133 Oh, my God. 479 00:18:47,133 --> 00:18:48,966 Now, because you have the drawing, 480 00:18:48,966 --> 00:18:52,500 you get to add a few thousand more on top of that. 481 00:18:52,500 --> 00:18:53,833 So say we're at the $45,000 mark. 482 00:18:53,833 --> 00:18:57,266 For insurance, you might want to raise it higher. 483 00:18:57,266 --> 00:19:00,433 But this is, I'd say $45,000. Oh, my God. 484 00:19:00,433 --> 00:19:04,166 It's just red-hot now in the marketplace. 485 00:19:04,166 --> 00:19:05,533 Well, we love it, and we use it every day 486 00:19:05,533 --> 00:19:08,166 in the living room, so we take very good care of it. 487 00:19:22,033 --> 00:19:25,033 WOMAN: The woman in the photograph is Lucrezia Bori, 488 00:19:25,033 --> 00:19:27,300 and my husband's great-aunt 489 00:19:27,300 --> 00:19:30,033 was her personal secretary for all of her career. 490 00:19:30,033 --> 00:19:32,033 Lucrezia Bori is from Spain. 491 00:19:32,033 --> 00:19:34,800 These were her earrings, 492 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:38,533 and we have pictures of her wearing them in several operas. 493 00:19:38,533 --> 00:19:40,266 You can see here she's got the earrings 494 00:19:40,266 --> 00:19:42,333 in a shorter style, 495 00:19:42,333 --> 00:19:44,933 and then here in the much longer version 496 00:19:44,933 --> 00:19:47,700 as we see here on the table. 497 00:19:47,700 --> 00:19:49,133 What's interesting about these earrings 498 00:19:49,133 --> 00:19:52,200 is that the central parts are detachable. 499 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,300 And so she could wear them in a variety of styles. 500 00:19:55,300 --> 00:19:56,533 These are Spanish, 501 00:19:56,533 --> 00:19:59,366 and I know you said she was of Spanish descent, 502 00:19:59,366 --> 00:20:01,333 and so these were probably family pieces. 503 00:20:01,333 --> 00:20:04,033 These date from the 18th century. 504 00:20:04,033 --> 00:20:06,633 They were based on much earlier designs, 505 00:20:06,633 --> 00:20:09,766 and they continued to be redone and updated 506 00:20:09,766 --> 00:20:11,733 for each of the centuries. 507 00:20:11,733 --> 00:20:14,733 Both the 17th and 18th, and even 19th century. 508 00:20:14,733 --> 00:20:15,666 But these are definitely 509 00:20:15,666 --> 00:20:17,933 an 18th-century pair of earrings. 510 00:20:17,933 --> 00:20:19,066 They're made of gold 511 00:20:19,066 --> 00:20:23,533 and garnet, and if I turn them over, 512 00:20:23,533 --> 00:20:24,566 one thing to point out-- 513 00:20:24,566 --> 00:20:26,000 the tops of these are not original. 514 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,066 These are a later addition. Okay. 515 00:20:28,066 --> 00:20:29,666 But you can see there are these little tabs 516 00:20:29,666 --> 00:20:32,033 on the back that are used 517 00:20:32,033 --> 00:20:35,566 to separate each of the corresponding segments. 518 00:20:35,566 --> 00:20:37,866 And then the back has a little bit of an engraving, 519 00:20:37,866 --> 00:20:40,266 just to make them a little more interesting on the back. 520 00:20:40,266 --> 00:20:42,366 The reason these were divided into sections 521 00:20:42,366 --> 00:20:43,966 weren't so much used 522 00:20:43,966 --> 00:20:47,233 for changing the design of the piece, 523 00:20:47,233 --> 00:20:49,733 but these earrings were quite heavy to wear all the time. 524 00:20:49,733 --> 00:20:53,200 And so when ladies were going to their event or evening out, 525 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:54,866 when they were in their carriages, 526 00:20:54,866 --> 00:20:56,166 they would take the lower sections off, 527 00:20:56,166 --> 00:20:58,333 so that they weren't so heavy, 528 00:20:58,333 --> 00:21:00,733 and upon arrival to their destination, 529 00:21:00,733 --> 00:21:02,533 they would put the bottom sections back on 530 00:21:02,533 --> 00:21:03,600 just so to give their ears 531 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:06,333 a little relief for the evening. 532 00:21:06,333 --> 00:21:07,733 They're in excellent condition. 533 00:21:07,733 --> 00:21:09,366 We don't see many of these, and I think the fact 534 00:21:09,366 --> 00:21:11,166 that you have the history, 535 00:21:11,166 --> 00:21:14,066 the photographs, I would say that you would probably want 536 00:21:14,066 --> 00:21:17,333 to insure these from anywhere between $8,000 and $10,000. 537 00:21:17,333 --> 00:21:18,900 (hisses) 538 00:21:18,900 --> 00:21:21,000 (laughing): That's amazing. 539 00:21:21,000 --> 00:21:23,133 Wow. Thank you. 540 00:21:23,133 --> 00:21:24,500 Unbelievable! 541 00:21:38,666 --> 00:21:42,333 WOMAN: I was a college student, and I went to the Folklife Festival, 542 00:21:42,333 --> 00:21:45,766 the Smithsonian in Washington, DC, on the Mall. 543 00:21:45,766 --> 00:21:47,733 I went into a tent, and this was there, 544 00:21:47,733 --> 00:21:49,133 and I fell in love with it. 545 00:21:49,133 --> 00:21:52,200 And there was a man that was there, 546 00:21:52,200 --> 00:21:54,300 and I told him I was a college student 547 00:21:54,300 --> 00:21:56,433 and I didn't have a lot of money, 548 00:21:56,433 --> 00:21:59,566 so I said I... He said, "Do you like anything?" 549 00:21:59,566 --> 00:22:00,633 I said, "I like that." 550 00:22:00,633 --> 00:22:01,833 He said, "I tell you what. 551 00:22:01,833 --> 00:22:03,033 How much do you have?" 552 00:22:03,033 --> 00:22:07,200 I had about $30, and so he let me have it for $30. 553 00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:08,433 I love it. 554 00:22:08,433 --> 00:22:10,366 So how many years ago was that, approximately? 555 00:22:10,366 --> 00:22:11,800 30? 556 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,166 When you walked in with this face jug, as they call it, 557 00:22:14,166 --> 00:22:17,733 I recognized that it's possibly a piece 558 00:22:17,733 --> 00:22:19,200 that was made by the Meaders family. 559 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,433 I recognized it by the glaze, 560 00:22:21,433 --> 00:22:23,500 which is called a tobacco-spit glaze. 561 00:22:23,500 --> 00:22:24,700 And you can just picture it. Oh! 562 00:22:24,700 --> 00:22:26,666 It looks like dripping tobacco juice 563 00:22:26,666 --> 00:22:28,900 that someone might have spit on it. 564 00:22:28,900 --> 00:22:31,500 When we turn it over, we now see the signature, 565 00:22:31,500 --> 00:22:34,500 and the signature is that of Lanier Meaders. 566 00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:37,666 And he was born in 1917. Oh! 567 00:22:37,666 --> 00:22:41,233 And he was the second son of Georgia potters 568 00:22:41,233 --> 00:22:42,800 Cheever and Arie Meaders. 569 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,666 They became very famous in Georgia. 570 00:22:45,666 --> 00:22:49,966 The Library of Congress honored them in the 1970s. 571 00:22:49,966 --> 00:22:51,400 Oh, God, I didn't know... 572 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:53,233 So they actually had a very, very 573 00:22:53,233 --> 00:22:56,366 high regard in the field of American folk pottery. 574 00:22:56,366 --> 00:22:58,500 My sisters never liked it. 575 00:22:58,500 --> 00:23:00,833 So every time they would come to my house, 576 00:23:00,833 --> 00:23:02,500 they would turn the face to the wall. 577 00:23:02,500 --> 00:23:05,300 It's interesting you say that, because sometimes, 578 00:23:05,300 --> 00:23:09,500 the other name for the pottery is grotesque face pottery. 579 00:23:09,500 --> 00:23:10,766 (laughing) 580 00:23:10,766 --> 00:23:12,533 So some of them are actually quite distorted and scary. 581 00:23:12,533 --> 00:23:14,333 I think this is wonderful. 582 00:23:14,333 --> 00:23:15,566 It's very dignified. 583 00:23:15,566 --> 00:23:18,466 Value in today's market, somewhere in the 584 00:23:18,466 --> 00:23:21,433 $1,500 to $2,500 range. 585 00:23:21,433 --> 00:23:22,700 I love it. Thank you so much. 586 00:23:22,700 --> 00:23:23,900 Well, thank you for bringing it 587 00:23:23,900 --> 00:23:25,533 to "Antiques Roadshow." Thank you. 588 00:23:26,700 --> 00:23:28,933 I had no idea. 589 00:23:39,133 --> 00:23:41,133 It's a really well-detailed model. 590 00:23:41,133 --> 00:23:43,066 I first saw the Shot Tower about 20 years ago, 591 00:23:43,066 --> 00:23:45,800 my first trip to Baltimore, and the Phoenix Shot Tower 592 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,166 was actually used to make lead shot for shotguns. 593 00:23:48,166 --> 00:23:51,466 They would drop lead shot off the top, and as it fell, 594 00:23:51,466 --> 00:23:53,500 it would form a perfect sphere. 595 00:23:53,500 --> 00:23:56,166 Reasonable retail price would be somewhere in the $1,000 596 00:23:56,166 --> 00:23:57,900 to $1,500 range for a piece like this. 597 00:23:57,900 --> 00:23:59,433 Oh, yeah? 598 00:24:05,500 --> 00:24:07,800 It would have been worth quite a bit of money 599 00:24:07,800 --> 00:24:09,166 had no one ever gotten to it. 600 00:24:09,166 --> 00:24:12,400 Somebody has done a lot of over-finishing. 601 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,466 They were trying to repair these cracks here, 602 00:24:14,466 --> 00:24:16,100 but they didn't do a very good job. 603 00:24:16,100 --> 00:24:17,666 This guitar, in excellent condition, 604 00:24:17,666 --> 00:24:21,333 would have been worth about $15,000. 605 00:24:21,333 --> 00:24:24,066 In the condition it's in now, I'd say around 606 00:24:24,066 --> 00:24:27,333 $3,000, $3,500. 607 00:24:27,333 --> 00:24:29,500 This one just had all the wrong things done, 608 00:24:29,500 --> 00:24:31,066 but probably done during an era 609 00:24:31,066 --> 00:24:32,700 when people weren't thinking 610 00:24:32,700 --> 00:24:34,066 that these were worth any real money. 611 00:24:34,066 --> 00:24:36,400 MAN: I went to antique shop. 612 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,266 Saw that belt across the room. 613 00:24:38,266 --> 00:24:39,933 It was in the late '60s, early '70s, 614 00:24:39,933 --> 00:24:43,533 and I think we finally agreed on $150. 615 00:24:43,533 --> 00:24:46,533 I figured it was silver, and I wanted to wear it. 616 00:24:46,533 --> 00:24:48,666 Well, what you picked up was a belt that was made 617 00:24:48,666 --> 00:24:51,166 in the '30s by the Navajos. 618 00:24:51,166 --> 00:24:53,733 The materials it's made out of is silver. 619 00:24:53,733 --> 00:24:55,600 A belt like this today would sell for about 620 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,966 $3,000 to $5,000 at auction. Okay. 621 00:24:58,966 --> 00:25:01,200 Well, I wish it still fit. You wanted to wear it. 622 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:02,233 (laughs) 623 00:25:02,233 --> 00:25:03,866 I wore it for years. 624 00:25:03,866 --> 00:25:04,966 Were you an old hippie back then? 625 00:25:04,966 --> 00:25:07,400 Yes, of course. 626 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,966 I got it at a yard sale in Maryland. 627 00:25:10,966 --> 00:25:13,400 Okay, what did you pay for it? I paid $15 for it. 628 00:25:13,400 --> 00:25:15,066 Okay, why did you buy it? 629 00:25:15,066 --> 00:25:17,766 Well, I bought it because this lady had a whole lot of them 630 00:25:17,766 --> 00:25:21,533 and told me that her husband was a curator with a museum. 631 00:25:21,533 --> 00:25:25,300 This is a mask from what used to be called Upper Volta, 632 00:25:25,300 --> 00:25:27,233 which is now called Burkina Faso. 633 00:25:27,233 --> 00:25:29,133 The tribe is Nunuma, 634 00:25:29,133 --> 00:25:32,766 and it's in the central area of Burkina Faso. 635 00:25:32,766 --> 00:25:38,833 What we like to see on masks is, first of all, 636 00:25:38,833 --> 00:25:42,733 this has wonderful wear all along this edge here, 637 00:25:42,733 --> 00:25:44,733 great old break in there. Right there, yeah. 638 00:25:44,733 --> 00:25:49,300 We come around, we have some nice wear on the front. 639 00:25:49,300 --> 00:25:50,733 And I'm telling you, I've been doing 640 00:25:50,733 --> 00:25:52,533 the Antiques Roadshow for 12 years, 641 00:25:52,533 --> 00:25:55,000 this is one of the few authentic masks I've found. 642 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:56,766 Is that right? This is the real deal. 643 00:25:56,766 --> 00:25:58,100 I figured it was, because... 644 00:25:58,100 --> 00:25:59,033 This is the real deal. 645 00:25:59,033 --> 00:26:00,800 He was a curator of a museum, so... 646 00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:04,366 These masks are used as bush spirits 647 00:26:04,366 --> 00:26:06,666 to communicate with the creator. 648 00:26:06,666 --> 00:26:07,866 This is really lovely. 649 00:26:07,866 --> 00:26:10,033 And they did wear it on their face as a mask? 650 00:26:10,033 --> 00:26:13,400 Yeah, it's worn-- if you'll pardon me, it's worn like this. 651 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,933 Oh. And that's the way it's danced. 652 00:26:15,933 --> 00:26:17,400 What do you think it's worth? 653 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:19,166 It's got to be worth more than $15. 654 00:26:19,166 --> 00:26:21,666 How about $5,000 to $7,000? 655 00:26:21,666 --> 00:26:24,833 Oh, my word, I would've... Yup. 656 00:26:24,833 --> 00:26:28,500 Oh, my God. Yeah, this is really a nice, good, solid mask. 657 00:26:28,500 --> 00:26:30,933 It's in good condition and it's old. 658 00:26:30,933 --> 00:26:32,466 Oh, my gosh, thank you so much. 659 00:26:32,466 --> 00:26:34,066 Should I say congratulations? Yes, you should. 660 00:26:34,066 --> 00:26:36,033 Okay, I will. (both chuckle) 661 00:26:49,833 --> 00:26:51,600 It was my late husband's, 662 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,500 and it was a particular treasure of his. 663 00:26:54,500 --> 00:26:56,000 He was a graphic artist 664 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:57,800 and he collected a lot of posters. 665 00:26:57,800 --> 00:26:59,633 This is the most interesting, I think. 666 00:26:59,633 --> 00:27:03,033 Being from the Bridgeport area, where Barnum had his museum 667 00:27:03,033 --> 00:27:05,933 and the circus had its winter headquarters and everything, 668 00:27:05,933 --> 00:27:07,400 there was local interest, 669 00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:09,066 but we both really loved the headline, 670 00:27:09,066 --> 00:27:11,466 so typically Barnum. 671 00:27:11,466 --> 00:27:13,733 I think, from my research, 672 00:27:13,733 --> 00:27:17,933 that Jumbo was killed in 1885. 673 00:27:17,933 --> 00:27:19,833 Hit by a train. 674 00:27:19,833 --> 00:27:23,433 And Jumbo the elephant was a big star of the circus, 675 00:27:23,433 --> 00:27:25,266 and it was a horror that he was killed. 676 00:27:25,266 --> 00:27:29,400 And so Barnum had to do something to rescue the circus, 677 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:31,800 and he came up with this story that Jumbo 678 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:33,733 had sacrificed himself and thrown 679 00:27:33,733 --> 00:27:36,666 this elephant out of the way of the oncoming train 680 00:27:36,666 --> 00:27:37,966 to save its life. 681 00:27:37,966 --> 00:27:39,433 It's a great headline. 682 00:27:39,433 --> 00:27:41,900 And this may come as a surprise to you, 683 00:27:41,900 --> 00:27:43,366 but for some reason, I'm very partial 684 00:27:43,366 --> 00:27:46,633 to images of men dressed as clowns. (laughing) 685 00:27:46,633 --> 00:27:47,833 I don't know what it is, 686 00:27:47,833 --> 00:27:49,100 but it really, it resonates with me. Yes. 687 00:27:49,100 --> 00:27:50,633 P.T. Barnum was considered 688 00:27:50,633 --> 00:27:52,333 the world's greatest huckster. 689 00:27:52,333 --> 00:27:55,133 And early circus posters are a wonderful window 690 00:27:55,133 --> 00:27:56,866 into the history of American advertising. 691 00:27:56,866 --> 00:27:59,200 The circuses would travel from town to town, 692 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,833 and as they were moving from town to town, 693 00:28:01,833 --> 00:28:04,233 an advance team of advertisers would be in the next town 694 00:28:04,233 --> 00:28:05,200 hanging up posters. 695 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,066 And the circuses in America really 696 00:28:07,066 --> 00:28:09,766 revolutionized poster art in America. Oh. 697 00:28:09,766 --> 00:28:11,566 And revolutionized advertising art. 698 00:28:11,566 --> 00:28:12,633 The poster was printed 699 00:28:12,633 --> 00:28:14,366 by one of the great American lithographers, 700 00:28:14,366 --> 00:28:17,066 the Strobridge Company, which was based in Cincinnati. 701 00:28:17,066 --> 00:28:19,333 And their name appears on all the posters that they printed, 702 00:28:19,333 --> 00:28:21,900 and they really are the gold standard for American 703 00:28:21,900 --> 00:28:23,933 turn-of-the-century commercial lithography. 704 00:28:23,933 --> 00:28:25,933 Now, on most early circus posters, 705 00:28:25,933 --> 00:28:27,066 not only does it say Strobridge, 706 00:28:27,066 --> 00:28:28,800 but it has the date of the poster. Oh! 707 00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:31,700 This series, with the two cameos-- 708 00:28:31,700 --> 00:28:33,566 the two very desirable cameos, from the point of view 709 00:28:33,566 --> 00:28:35,333 of circus collectors-- these were never dated. 710 00:28:35,333 --> 00:28:37,666 But they date to approximately 711 00:28:37,666 --> 00:28:39,200 the early 1890s. Really? 712 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:40,600 So it was a little bit after Jumbo died. 713 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:41,700 Now, you mentioned the headline. 714 00:28:41,700 --> 00:28:42,666 The headline is great. 715 00:28:42,666 --> 00:28:43,800 You've got to imagine a man 716 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:45,433 standing outside the big top going, 717 00:28:45,433 --> 00:28:47,933 "The original, famous, and only 718 00:28:47,933 --> 00:28:49,166 "diminutive, dwarf 719 00:28:49,166 --> 00:28:51,566 "clown elephant, Tom Thumb, 720 00:28:51,566 --> 00:28:56,333 "to save whom Jumbo so nobly sacrificed his own life. 721 00:28:56,333 --> 00:28:59,900 Inimitable displays of elephantine intelligence." 722 00:28:59,900 --> 00:29:02,000 (chuckles) This would've really excited people, 723 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:03,800 along with all the great vignettes of the elephant 724 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:05,833 playing music, the elephant bicycling, 725 00:29:05,833 --> 00:29:08,000 the elephant ordering drinks. 726 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,166 This would have really excited people to come and visit. 727 00:29:10,166 --> 00:29:11,166 The circus posters 728 00:29:11,166 --> 00:29:12,400 from the '30s and '40s, 729 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:14,133 which were printed in much larger numbers, 730 00:29:14,133 --> 00:29:16,800 tend to sell in the $200, $300, $400 range. 731 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,833 At auction, I would estimate its value 732 00:29:19,833 --> 00:29:22,300 at between $2,000 and $3,000, 733 00:29:22,300 --> 00:29:23,600 and it's in very good condition, too. 734 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:24,800 The colors are still bright. 735 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:26,433 So it wouldn't surprise me if it would sell 736 00:29:26,433 --> 00:29:28,400 closer to the high end of that rather than the low end. 737 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:29,700 Great. 738 00:29:29,700 --> 00:29:31,600 Great-- my husband would be very pleased. 739 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:33,866 I need a pair of red-striped pants. 740 00:29:33,866 --> 00:29:36,300 (laughing) That would be perfect. 741 00:29:44,933 --> 00:29:47,966 MAN: We think we have a 17th-century watch. 742 00:29:47,966 --> 00:29:48,933 We think it's from France, 743 00:29:48,933 --> 00:29:50,500 and the story in our family is, 744 00:29:50,500 --> 00:29:52,400 it may have actually been a remake 745 00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:53,966 of an earlier watch. 746 00:29:53,966 --> 00:29:56,066 And so we know it has some enamel on it 747 00:29:56,066 --> 00:29:57,500 and some silver, but that's really 748 00:29:57,500 --> 00:29:59,233 as much as we know about it. 749 00:29:59,233 --> 00:30:01,433 And when you brought it to me, 750 00:30:01,433 --> 00:30:02,700 there was a little bit of a mystery. 751 00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:04,133 I had to do a little research. 752 00:30:04,133 --> 00:30:05,800 First, you notice, it's very ornate. 753 00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:07,266 There's a lot going on there. 754 00:30:07,266 --> 00:30:08,633 The movement is done 755 00:30:08,633 --> 00:30:11,533 by a watchmaker that was out of London 756 00:30:11,533 --> 00:30:16,866 around 1768 through the latter part of the 1700s. 757 00:30:16,866 --> 00:30:18,366 So you're right on the money there, 758 00:30:18,366 --> 00:30:20,200 as far as the watch. 759 00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,400 But whoever put together the piece itself 760 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,666 put it together later. 761 00:30:25,666 --> 00:30:26,833 Now, on the back, 762 00:30:26,833 --> 00:30:28,700 there's a little hook where this should be worn 763 00:30:28,700 --> 00:30:30,400 over a sash or on a heavy garment. 764 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,766 This is very ornamental. 765 00:30:32,766 --> 00:30:34,966 The hallmark-- it's an export mark-- 766 00:30:34,966 --> 00:30:36,700 tells us that it was made sometime 767 00:30:36,700 --> 00:30:40,466 between 1891 and 1901. 768 00:30:40,466 --> 00:30:41,466 Now, where is it from? 769 00:30:41,466 --> 00:30:42,800 Not France. Oh. 770 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,666 Austria-Hungary. 771 00:30:45,666 --> 00:30:48,600 And it's very typical of this type of enamel work 772 00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:50,433 done on top of silver. 773 00:30:50,433 --> 00:30:52,633 Beyond that, what looks like glass 774 00:30:52,633 --> 00:30:54,733 is not glass. Is it rock crystal? Is that... 775 00:30:54,733 --> 00:30:56,333 Yeah, that's good. Okay. 776 00:30:56,333 --> 00:30:57,433 And it's not molded. 777 00:30:57,433 --> 00:31:01,300 You have to start by taking a solid piece 778 00:31:01,300 --> 00:31:03,300 of rock crystal. 779 00:31:03,300 --> 00:31:05,533 And usually this was done 780 00:31:05,533 --> 00:31:07,366 in Idar-Oberstein, Germany. 781 00:31:07,366 --> 00:31:08,800 And they would sit down 782 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:10,633 and hand-cut these pieces out. 783 00:31:10,633 --> 00:31:14,100 They actually cut a cylinder 784 00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:15,900 for the watch movement to fit into. 785 00:31:15,900 --> 00:31:16,900 They cut this top piece. 786 00:31:16,900 --> 00:31:18,466 They put all the facets on it. 787 00:31:18,466 --> 00:31:19,566 It's a lot of work. 788 00:31:19,566 --> 00:31:21,166 And don't think they got it right 789 00:31:21,166 --> 00:31:22,333 the first time. 790 00:31:22,333 --> 00:31:23,333 I'm sure... Really? 791 00:31:23,333 --> 00:31:24,666 ...a piece may have broken, 792 00:31:24,666 --> 00:31:26,200 they threw it in the pile, 793 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:28,133 they had to start all over again. 794 00:31:28,133 --> 00:31:30,600 You can see where they had to hollow out 795 00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,200 the rock crystal. Right. 796 00:31:33,200 --> 00:31:37,533 Now, there's a lot of interest in these watches. 797 00:31:37,533 --> 00:31:39,300 A very strong market for this today. 798 00:31:39,300 --> 00:31:41,100 Probably 799 00:31:41,100 --> 00:31:42,800 in the neighborhood, at auction, 800 00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,100 of $20,000 801 00:31:44,100 --> 00:31:46,933 to $30,000. Amazing, hmm. 802 00:31:46,933 --> 00:31:48,900 That's, that's unbelievable to hear. 803 00:31:48,900 --> 00:31:50,333 Does the fact that it may be 804 00:31:50,333 --> 00:31:52,166 a Judaic piece add any value 805 00:31:52,166 --> 00:31:53,400 or take any value from... 806 00:31:53,400 --> 00:31:54,633 It's interesting you bring that up, 807 00:31:54,633 --> 00:31:56,233 because it's a six-pointed star. 808 00:31:56,233 --> 00:31:57,233 Austria and Hungary, 809 00:31:57,233 --> 00:31:58,566 they used this form a lot 810 00:31:58,566 --> 00:32:01,600 and it didn't necessarily have anything to do 811 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:03,366 with Judaica. 812 00:32:03,366 --> 00:32:05,266 Thanks for bringing it in. Thank you. 813 00:32:15,266 --> 00:32:18,900 WOMAN: Well, my father-in-law was clearing out a house, 814 00:32:18,900 --> 00:32:21,166 and the owner said that he was going to get rid of 815 00:32:21,166 --> 00:32:24,800 a pile of junk, and asked him if he wanted to keep any of it. 816 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:26,966 And my mother-in-law put a print on it 817 00:32:26,966 --> 00:32:30,100 and hung it in her office for about ten years. 818 00:32:30,100 --> 00:32:33,233 And then when she retired, she put it up in the attic. 819 00:32:33,233 --> 00:32:35,800 After about five years or so in the attic, 820 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,133 she gave it to me, 821 00:32:37,133 --> 00:32:40,033 and it hung in my house for about five years, 822 00:32:40,033 --> 00:32:42,800 until I decided that I would change the frame. 823 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:47,000 And when I opened it up, I saw this striking girl. 824 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,633 I immediately was drawn to her. 825 00:32:49,633 --> 00:32:52,533 I didn't recognize the name "Benton" on the bottom. 826 00:32:52,533 --> 00:32:54,466 I started to do a little research, 827 00:32:54,466 --> 00:32:58,233 and then I found out it was Thomas Hart Benton's drawing. 828 00:32:58,233 --> 00:33:01,833 So is it still that original frame that it was in? 829 00:33:01,833 --> 00:33:03,300 It's the same frame. Okay, okay. 830 00:33:03,300 --> 00:33:04,600 And the same matte, 831 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:07,133 and I just protected it with U.V. glass, and I've really 832 00:33:07,133 --> 00:33:08,900 been enjoying it in my house. 833 00:33:08,900 --> 00:33:11,166 And now, what do you know about the subject of the drawing? 834 00:33:11,166 --> 00:33:12,833 It's a study for a mural 835 00:33:12,833 --> 00:33:16,300 that's hanging at the Indiana University. 836 00:33:16,300 --> 00:33:17,966 I think the mural was commissioned 837 00:33:17,966 --> 00:33:22,733 for the state fair in the early 1900s. 838 00:33:22,733 --> 00:33:25,100 And if you see the picture of the mural, 839 00:33:25,100 --> 00:33:27,866 the little girl is right in the middle. 840 00:33:27,866 --> 00:33:29,166 It is a Benton drawing, 841 00:33:29,166 --> 00:33:31,133 and it's a really wonderful Benton drawing. 842 00:33:31,133 --> 00:33:34,500 He's known as an American regionalist painter, primarily. 843 00:33:34,500 --> 00:33:36,666 This is executed in pen and ink. 844 00:33:36,666 --> 00:33:39,533 The drawings are not quite as well known as the paintings. 845 00:33:39,533 --> 00:33:41,933 There are these very sort of active, sinewy figures 846 00:33:41,933 --> 00:33:43,333 in a lot of the paintings. 847 00:33:43,333 --> 00:33:45,900 There are landscapes that are very, very distinctive. 848 00:33:45,900 --> 00:33:48,000 He was also known as a mural painter. 849 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,500 He actually was commissioned to paint this mural cycle 850 00:33:50,500 --> 00:33:53,866 for the Chicago World's Fair in 1933, 851 00:33:53,866 --> 00:33:57,266 and it represented the Indiana pavilion at the fair. 852 00:33:57,266 --> 00:34:00,766 And he spent a lot of research, a lot of time in Indiana. 853 00:34:00,766 --> 00:34:04,333 He came up with the idea of a cycle that represented 854 00:34:04,333 --> 00:34:06,233 the history of industry in Indiana 855 00:34:06,233 --> 00:34:08,100 and the history of culture in Indiana. 856 00:34:08,100 --> 00:34:10,566 And it deals with the cultural aspect of the parks, 857 00:34:10,566 --> 00:34:12,433 circuses, the press and-- 858 00:34:12,433 --> 00:34:15,333 here's the controversial part-- the Klan. 859 00:34:15,333 --> 00:34:16,700 He was anxious 860 00:34:16,700 --> 00:34:19,766 to show history as it really was in Indiana, 861 00:34:19,766 --> 00:34:23,266 and he wanted to represent the Ku Klux Klan. 862 00:34:23,266 --> 00:34:27,033 There was a real controversial aspect to that. 863 00:34:27,033 --> 00:34:28,333 And he had to get permission to do it, 864 00:34:28,333 --> 00:34:30,900 and he went through the State House, and so on. 865 00:34:30,900 --> 00:34:32,300 Ultimately, it was granted. 866 00:34:32,300 --> 00:34:36,000 This drawing represents a figure in panel number ten. 867 00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:40,900 And this panel depicted the racial issues in Indiana 868 00:34:40,900 --> 00:34:42,366 in the 1920s, apparently, 869 00:34:42,366 --> 00:34:45,266 from what research I've been able to do. 870 00:34:45,266 --> 00:34:46,400 When the fair was over, 871 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:48,133 the whole thing went into storage. 872 00:34:48,133 --> 00:34:49,666 Apparently, nobody really wanted it. 873 00:34:49,666 --> 00:34:52,066 And then at some point in the late '30s, 874 00:34:52,066 --> 00:34:54,033 the president of Indiana University decided 875 00:34:54,033 --> 00:34:55,966 that they'd like it for the university, 876 00:34:55,966 --> 00:34:58,366 and it was reinstalled in the university. 877 00:34:58,366 --> 00:35:00,566 But to this day, there's a big controversy 878 00:35:00,566 --> 00:35:03,433 over the aspect of the panel that deals with the Klan. 879 00:35:03,433 --> 00:35:06,866 But the whole situation has really changed in terms 880 00:35:06,866 --> 00:35:08,766 of marketability and things, 881 00:35:08,766 --> 00:35:11,333 because whereas these things were perhaps not very desirable 882 00:35:11,333 --> 00:35:13,400 in the past, there's tremendous interest 883 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:14,500 in this now. 884 00:35:14,500 --> 00:35:17,633 Images depicting Black history in America 885 00:35:17,633 --> 00:35:19,433 are very, very sought after. 886 00:35:19,433 --> 00:35:21,333 You had told me you had this appraised once, 887 00:35:21,333 --> 00:35:22,300 and they told you... 888 00:35:22,300 --> 00:35:24,133 I had it appraised about ten years ago, 889 00:35:24,133 --> 00:35:25,533 in Philadelphia, and he said 890 00:35:25,533 --> 00:35:28,166 that the art market was somewhat low, 891 00:35:28,166 --> 00:35:30,366 and there was no market for African American art, 892 00:35:30,366 --> 00:35:33,800 so he said that, probably about $2,000. 893 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,733 Well, that may have been the case there, 894 00:35:35,733 --> 00:35:37,233 or he may have been misinformed. 895 00:35:37,233 --> 00:35:38,766 It's certainly not the case now. 896 00:35:38,766 --> 00:35:41,366 A really finished Benton drawing of this kind of quality 897 00:35:41,366 --> 00:35:43,133 and of such a fascinating subject matter, 898 00:35:43,133 --> 00:35:44,833 in today's market, 899 00:35:44,833 --> 00:35:47,166 I would say an auction estimate on this drawing 900 00:35:47,166 --> 00:35:48,633 conservatively would be somewhere in the 901 00:35:48,633 --> 00:35:50,766 perhaps $12,000 to $18,000 range. 902 00:35:50,766 --> 00:35:52,300 Really? 903 00:35:52,300 --> 00:35:53,466 You really found a treasure 904 00:35:53,466 --> 00:35:55,366 under that Monet print in that frame, 905 00:35:55,366 --> 00:35:58,066 and I really appreciate you bringing it to us today. 906 00:35:58,066 --> 00:35:59,833 Thank you, thank you. You're welcome. 907 00:36:05,766 --> 00:36:08,966 Well, I brought a ceremonial sword 908 00:36:08,966 --> 00:36:10,766 that was given to my great-great-grandfather 909 00:36:10,766 --> 00:36:12,900 in about 1856. 910 00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:17,166 And he later became the consul to Bavaria, 911 00:36:17,166 --> 00:36:19,733 and I brought his certificate naming him as the consul. 912 00:36:19,733 --> 00:36:22,500 Well, who was the sword presented by? 913 00:36:22,500 --> 00:36:25,766 It was presented by his men in the... 914 00:36:25,766 --> 00:36:28,500 It was the Philadelphia Artillery Brigade 915 00:36:28,500 --> 00:36:29,900 in the Pennsylvania militia. 916 00:36:29,900 --> 00:36:31,566 And it was presented at the time 917 00:36:31,566 --> 00:36:33,633 also by the governor of Pennsylvania 918 00:36:33,633 --> 00:36:37,066 and Simon Cameron, who eventually became 919 00:36:37,066 --> 00:36:38,766 Lincoln's first secretary of war. 920 00:36:38,766 --> 00:36:40,033 Correct. 921 00:36:40,033 --> 00:36:41,866 Do you know what that regiment was called? 922 00:36:41,866 --> 00:36:44,366 His regiment ultimately became the 27th Pennsylvania. 923 00:36:44,366 --> 00:36:47,400 At the time, they were just a militia brigade, right? 924 00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:48,733 I found a neat reference to them. 925 00:36:48,733 --> 00:36:52,233 They're actually the Philadelphia Flying Artillery. 926 00:36:52,233 --> 00:36:53,533 Oh, okay. 927 00:36:53,533 --> 00:36:55,466 And he's the man that actually founded it. Okay. 928 00:36:55,466 --> 00:36:58,533 Which is why they were giving him this token of their esteem. 929 00:36:58,533 --> 00:37:00,666 It's got a beautiful presentation on the front, 930 00:37:00,666 --> 00:37:01,633 where it was presented 931 00:37:01,633 --> 00:37:05,566 by his men "To General Max Einstein." 932 00:37:05,566 --> 00:37:07,700 Right. Wonderful presentation. 933 00:37:07,700 --> 00:37:12,633 The sword itself is made by the Ames Manufacturing Company 934 00:37:12,633 --> 00:37:14,033 in Chicopee, Massachusetts. 935 00:37:14,033 --> 00:37:16,666 And it has the correct Ames mark on the back of the scabbard. 936 00:37:16,666 --> 00:37:20,900 This is pretty much the pinnacle of an Ames sword. 937 00:37:20,900 --> 00:37:22,366 Beautifully executed. 938 00:37:22,366 --> 00:37:24,100 It has the original silver handle 939 00:37:24,100 --> 00:37:27,633 with beautiful floral and geometric patterns on the grip. Mm-hmm. 940 00:37:27,633 --> 00:37:29,733 Eagles everywhere. Right. 941 00:37:29,733 --> 00:37:31,733 Eagles on the crossguard, 942 00:37:31,733 --> 00:37:33,400 eagles on the pommel cap. 943 00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,000 Beautifully done sword. 944 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,433 This was the top that Ames made. Wow. 945 00:37:38,433 --> 00:37:40,433 Have you been able to do much research 946 00:37:40,433 --> 00:37:42,600 about when the sword was given to him? 947 00:37:42,600 --> 00:37:45,533 We have a book that mentions it. 948 00:37:45,533 --> 00:37:48,466 The book is called "The Jews of Philadelphia." 949 00:37:48,466 --> 00:37:50,433 And it's mentioned... no doubt, 950 00:37:50,433 --> 00:37:52,300 the author actually went to his home. 951 00:37:52,300 --> 00:37:54,533 He said it was hanging on the wall, 952 00:37:54,533 --> 00:37:56,933 and there's a description of the presentation, 953 00:37:56,933 --> 00:37:58,600 and it mentions Cameron 954 00:37:58,600 --> 00:37:59,633 and the governor of Pennsylvania, 955 00:37:59,633 --> 00:38:01,133 who I think was John Pollock. 956 00:38:01,133 --> 00:38:02,133 And the appointment mentions 957 00:38:02,133 --> 00:38:04,033 where he was being made consul 958 00:38:04,033 --> 00:38:08,300 to His Majesty, the King of Bavaria. 959 00:38:08,300 --> 00:38:10,333 And what's interesting about this 960 00:38:10,333 --> 00:38:13,000 is, not only is it an important piece of paper of history, 961 00:38:13,000 --> 00:38:16,633 it's also important because of who it's signed by. 962 00:38:16,633 --> 00:38:22,166 This one has a full ink signature all in his hand, 963 00:38:22,166 --> 00:38:23,733 deep colors, no fading. 964 00:38:23,733 --> 00:38:26,166 It's a beautiful signature. 965 00:38:26,166 --> 00:38:28,100 And if you notice, it's dated in 1861. 966 00:38:28,100 --> 00:38:31,200 That's early in Lincoln's presidency. 967 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,266 Also a wonderful thing to have with it. 968 00:38:34,266 --> 00:38:37,500 It's not a sword that you'd ever decide to sell. Right. 969 00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:41,133 So I'd insure it for $15,000. 970 00:38:41,133 --> 00:38:43,833 (chuckles) 971 00:38:43,833 --> 00:38:47,533 It's been hanging on a wall for years and years, you know, so... 972 00:38:47,533 --> 00:38:48,500 And the appointment, 973 00:38:48,500 --> 00:38:50,066 with the good, clear signatures, 974 00:38:50,066 --> 00:38:54,200 is something you would need to insure for around $5,000. 975 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:55,500 Okay, that's good to know. 976 00:38:55,500 --> 00:38:57,566 Fantastic piece. 977 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:14,133 These are incredibly intricate carvings made out of cork. 978 00:39:14,133 --> 00:39:16,566 They are depicting the Summer Palace 979 00:39:16,566 --> 00:39:18,833 and the Winter Palace in Beijing. Yes. 980 00:39:18,833 --> 00:39:20,300 And they were done probably in 981 00:39:20,300 --> 00:39:22,900 the late 19th- early 20th century. 982 00:39:22,900 --> 00:39:25,266 They're worth about $1,000 apiece. Uh-huh. 983 00:39:25,266 --> 00:39:26,833 I think they're just lovely. 984 00:39:26,833 --> 00:39:28,500 Thank you for bringing them in. 985 00:39:30,233 --> 00:39:32,866 MAN: My dad made them, passed them on to me, so... 986 00:39:32,866 --> 00:39:34,633 APPRAISER: These types of miniature tools, 987 00:39:34,633 --> 00:39:35,933 I wouldn't want to call them common, 988 00:39:35,933 --> 00:39:37,200 but they're not rare, either. 989 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,800 What is rare is that you have this complete group. 990 00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:41,500 We know who made them. Right. 991 00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:44,333 They've been kept in the family and kept together like this. 992 00:39:44,333 --> 00:39:45,900 For insurance purposes, 993 00:39:45,900 --> 00:39:49,233 you would want to cover these for something around $4,000. 994 00:39:49,233 --> 00:39:51,266 All right, that's very good. Yeah. 995 00:39:56,166 --> 00:39:58,766 WOMAN: I know that it's a bulb pot. 996 00:39:58,766 --> 00:40:00,166 It was in my grandmother's house 997 00:40:00,166 --> 00:40:02,100 the whole time I was growing up, 998 00:40:02,100 --> 00:40:03,933 and it was something that I had asked her, 999 00:40:03,933 --> 00:40:07,133 and when she passed away, I, I took it. 1000 00:40:07,133 --> 00:40:08,300 (laughs) What do you do with it now? 1001 00:40:08,300 --> 00:40:10,200 I plant bulbs in it. You put bulbs in it, okay. 1002 00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,133 (laughing): Yes. 1003 00:40:12,133 --> 00:40:15,366 Well, what we have here is actually a piece of pottery 1004 00:40:15,366 --> 00:40:17,000 from the Boston area, 1005 00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:20,100 and it is called a Saturday Evening Girl bowl. 1006 00:40:20,100 --> 00:40:22,200 Saturday Evening Girl is a really interesting story. 1007 00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,866 And it actually comes from a group of philanthropists 1008 00:40:25,866 --> 00:40:27,700 in Boston just around the turn of the century, 1009 00:40:27,700 --> 00:40:31,566 and they decided they wanted to give immigrant girls a wage, 1010 00:40:31,566 --> 00:40:34,933 and they'd pay them on Saturday to come in and decorate 1011 00:40:34,933 --> 00:40:35,933 pottery and porcelain. 1012 00:40:35,933 --> 00:40:37,300 The way this is done here is, 1013 00:40:37,300 --> 00:40:39,933 they carve the surface of the pottery 1014 00:40:39,933 --> 00:40:42,733 and then they glaze around it. 1015 00:40:42,733 --> 00:40:44,300 And we know that this is Saturday Evening Girls 1016 00:40:44,300 --> 00:40:45,833 because, on the bottom, 1017 00:40:45,833 --> 00:40:47,066 we have here... It says "S.E.G." 1018 00:40:47,066 --> 00:40:48,133 It says "S.E.G." 1019 00:40:48,133 --> 00:40:50,266 I thought they were someone's initials. 1020 00:40:50,266 --> 00:40:51,400 They are-- Saturday Evening Girls. 1021 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,133 But this is actually someone's initials here. 1022 00:40:54,133 --> 00:40:57,733 And that "S.G." stands for Sara Galner, 1023 00:40:57,733 --> 00:41:00,200 who was one of the more important artists 1024 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,400 that Saturday Evening Girls employed. 1025 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,433 And below it is the date "9-11." 1026 00:41:05,433 --> 00:41:07,000 So it's done in September of 1911. 1027 00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,133 So not only do we know who made it, 1028 00:41:09,133 --> 00:41:11,066 we know when it was made and where it was made. 1029 00:41:11,066 --> 00:41:12,633 And the fact of the matter is... Wow... 1030 00:41:12,633 --> 00:41:14,600 ...you should be not using it as a bulb pot. 1031 00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:15,966 (laughs): Oh, okay. 1032 00:41:15,966 --> 00:41:17,700 It's worth probably-- it has a little hairline here-- 1033 00:41:17,700 --> 00:41:19,666 but it's worth probably around $2,000. 1034 00:41:19,666 --> 00:41:21,366 (breathlessly): Oh, my God. 1035 00:41:21,366 --> 00:41:23,233 (laughing) 1036 00:41:23,233 --> 00:41:25,700 Those are some lucky paperwhite bulbs, I'm telling you. 1037 00:41:25,700 --> 00:41:27,800 (laughing) 1038 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:29,900 (laughing): Oh, I don't even want to think about 1039 00:41:29,900 --> 00:41:31,666 what I've done with this pot. 1040 00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:45,633 MAN: It belonged to my uncle, then my cousin got it. 1041 00:41:45,633 --> 00:41:47,000 Then my cousin died 1042 00:41:47,000 --> 00:41:48,500 and his wife asked me if I'd like to have it. 1043 00:41:48,500 --> 00:41:50,033 Now, you're a train buff? 1044 00:41:50,033 --> 00:41:51,533 Not until this one. (laughs) 1045 00:41:51,533 --> 00:41:53,833 Do you know much about Lionel Company? 1046 00:41:53,833 --> 00:41:55,200 I know they've been in business 1047 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:57,533 a long time, but, uh... 1048 00:41:57,533 --> 00:41:59,700 Well, we'll fill in a few blanks for you. Okay. 1049 00:41:59,700 --> 00:42:01,900 First of all, Lionel was actually the middle name 1050 00:42:01,900 --> 00:42:03,466 of Joshua Lionel Cowen-- 1051 00:42:03,466 --> 00:42:05,400 earlier Cohen, but later Cowen. 1052 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:09,066 He came over to the States, and in the late 1800s, 1053 00:42:09,066 --> 00:42:13,000 he developed the flash powder that photographers use. 1054 00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:14,166 And it was so successful, 1055 00:42:14,166 --> 00:42:16,366 the Navy contracted to use this flash powder 1056 00:42:16,366 --> 00:42:18,100 for mine detonation. 1057 00:42:18,100 --> 00:42:19,500 This is how he got his stake 1058 00:42:19,500 --> 00:42:21,366 and he could start the Lionel Train Company, 1059 00:42:21,366 --> 00:42:24,000 which he thought of when he saw a small fan, 1060 00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:25,866 and he tried to figure out how to use it. 1061 00:42:25,866 --> 00:42:27,666 And he figured he'd put in a little motor, 1062 00:42:27,666 --> 00:42:29,400 and that's when he started with the toy trains. 1063 00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:30,966 He's the one who invented this size, 1064 00:42:30,966 --> 00:42:32,700 which is called standard gauge. 1065 00:42:32,700 --> 00:42:34,866 And what he endeavored to do with standard gauge 1066 00:42:34,866 --> 00:42:36,733 was to make the most beautiful, 1067 00:42:36,733 --> 00:42:39,333 luxurious trains for kids possible. 1068 00:42:39,333 --> 00:42:40,566 And this is considered to be 1069 00:42:40,566 --> 00:42:42,333 one of his greatest accomplishments, 1070 00:42:42,333 --> 00:42:43,500 the Blue Comet. 1071 00:42:43,500 --> 00:42:45,100 It came out in the early 1930s, 1072 00:42:45,100 --> 00:42:48,000 about 1930 to 1938. 1073 00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:50,366 This was actually based after a real train. 1074 00:42:50,366 --> 00:42:52,600 Oh, is it? 1929 to 1941, 1075 00:42:52,600 --> 00:42:54,766 there's a train called the Blue Comet 1076 00:42:54,766 --> 00:42:57,000 that ran a New Jersey Central Line 1077 00:42:57,000 --> 00:42:59,233 down to Atlantic City and the Jersey Shore. 1078 00:42:59,233 --> 00:43:00,566 It was called the seashore's 1079 00:43:00,566 --> 00:43:02,066 finest train. 1080 00:43:02,066 --> 00:43:04,466 And it was competing with Pennsylvania Railroad. 1081 00:43:04,466 --> 00:43:07,700 It was painted blue because of the Jersey seashore. 1082 00:43:07,700 --> 00:43:08,833 And guess what? 1083 00:43:08,833 --> 00:43:10,633 The Blue Comet, the Faye, 1084 00:43:10,633 --> 00:43:12,333 the Westphal, and the Tempel here, 1085 00:43:12,333 --> 00:43:14,566 all named after comets. 1086 00:43:14,566 --> 00:43:15,666 No kidding. 1087 00:43:15,666 --> 00:43:16,733 The train was so beautiful 1088 00:43:16,733 --> 00:43:17,866 that people would actually wait for it 1089 00:43:17,866 --> 00:43:18,833 to come down the tracks 1090 00:43:18,833 --> 00:43:20,900 so they could watch it go by. 1091 00:43:20,900 --> 00:43:23,500 Three hours from door to door, that's what they advertised. 1092 00:43:23,500 --> 00:43:27,100 And they advertised the finest in luxury. 1093 00:43:27,100 --> 00:43:29,700 And when Joshua Lionel Cowen created this train, 1094 00:43:29,700 --> 00:43:31,133 that's what he wanted to do, as well. 1095 00:43:31,133 --> 00:43:32,800 Let's take a look. 1096 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:37,100 The actual train had triple-cushioned mohair seats. 1097 00:43:37,100 --> 00:43:39,333 They even show a bathroom and a commode. 1098 00:43:39,333 --> 00:43:41,066 There was a smoking room for the gentlemen. 1099 00:43:41,066 --> 00:43:42,400 There was an observation deck, 1100 00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,366 which you see in the back of this train... Right. 1101 00:43:44,366 --> 00:43:46,033 And they had all the luxuries for that time. 1102 00:43:46,033 --> 00:43:48,100 Right. For a Lionel train, this is unheard of. 1103 00:43:48,100 --> 00:43:49,666 You could never take the top off, 1104 00:43:49,666 --> 00:43:52,466 and of course it had the spectacular electric light. 1105 00:43:52,466 --> 00:43:54,866 All the little details were thought of 1106 00:43:54,866 --> 00:43:58,266 to make this like the actual-size Blue Comet. 1107 00:43:58,266 --> 00:44:00,533 Now, at the time this was sold, 1108 00:44:00,533 --> 00:44:02,400 $70 to buy this 1109 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,833 in the 1930s, at the height of the Depression. 1110 00:44:04,833 --> 00:44:07,466 You could buy a three- piece bedroom suite 1111 00:44:07,466 --> 00:44:08,766 or you could buy a used Model T 1112 00:44:08,766 --> 00:44:10,933 for that kind of money. Oh, my. 1113 00:44:10,933 --> 00:44:12,033 For auction, 1114 00:44:12,033 --> 00:44:14,500 I would put this at estimate $8,000 1115 00:44:14,500 --> 00:44:16,033 to $10,000. Oh, my. 1116 00:44:16,033 --> 00:44:19,166 It's sold as much as $11,500. 1117 00:44:19,166 --> 00:44:20,333 Good heavens. 1118 00:44:20,333 --> 00:44:24,166 Uh, makes me want to treasure it even more. 1119 00:44:33,966 --> 00:44:37,233 WOMAN: I bought it at an auction about 25 years ago. 1120 00:44:37,233 --> 00:44:40,533 Paid around $15. 1121 00:44:40,533 --> 00:44:42,466 I bought it because I like daisies, 1122 00:44:42,466 --> 00:44:44,266 and I don't know anything about pottery. 1123 00:44:44,266 --> 00:44:46,100 My girlfriend Michelle collects pottery, 1124 00:44:46,100 --> 00:44:48,166 and she saw it and told me 1125 00:44:48,166 --> 00:44:50,600 that it was an early Roseville piece. 1126 00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,133 It's Rozane Ware. 1127 00:44:52,133 --> 00:44:54,700 She looked it up in a book and said the value 1128 00:44:54,700 --> 00:44:58,033 for a mint condition was around $3,000. 1129 00:44:58,033 --> 00:44:59,466 So since it's not mint condition, 1130 00:44:59,466 --> 00:45:01,133 I was wondering what the value was. 1131 00:45:01,133 --> 00:45:04,566 This particular line is called Della Robbia. 1132 00:45:04,566 --> 00:45:06,300 The original Della Robbias were Italian, 1133 00:45:06,300 --> 00:45:08,166 but the name was taken 1134 00:45:08,166 --> 00:45:09,966 for this particular line, 1135 00:45:09,966 --> 00:45:13,366 which was designed by Frederick Hurten Rhead. 1136 00:45:13,366 --> 00:45:15,666 Now, Frederick Rhead was an Englishman, 1137 00:45:15,666 --> 00:45:19,533 and he came over to this country in about 1902, 1138 00:45:19,533 --> 00:45:21,133 and he joined Roseville in 1904, 1139 00:45:21,133 --> 00:45:24,133 and he really transformed what they were doing over there. 1140 00:45:24,133 --> 00:45:25,666 It gave them a really wonderful 1141 00:45:25,666 --> 00:45:28,900 Arts and Crafts look, but with a lot of style, 1142 00:45:28,900 --> 00:45:30,766 a lot of English style. 1143 00:45:30,766 --> 00:45:34,966 And he designed 72 different models, 1144 00:45:34,966 --> 00:45:36,033 starting in 1906. 1145 00:45:36,033 --> 00:45:38,333 Now, sometimes they're actually done 1146 00:45:38,333 --> 00:45:41,366 by his hand, but often they're done by other workers. 1147 00:45:41,366 --> 00:45:44,133 Most Roseville we know 1148 00:45:44,133 --> 00:45:47,466 as being cast and having little hand-painting. 1149 00:45:47,466 --> 00:45:50,766 This is entirely hand-carved and -excised. 1150 00:45:50,766 --> 00:45:52,700 Now, there were two 1151 00:45:52,700 --> 00:45:55,066 different generations of Della Robbia. 1152 00:45:55,066 --> 00:45:56,933 This is the early one, 1153 00:45:56,933 --> 00:45:58,033 with many beautiful colors. 1154 00:45:58,033 --> 00:45:59,966 The later one is usually done 1155 00:45:59,966 --> 00:46:03,866 in one or two complementary colors. 1156 00:46:03,866 --> 00:46:06,466 There are initials on the bottom, too. 1157 00:46:06,466 --> 00:46:09,733 Which are probably from the person who did the carving. 1158 00:46:09,733 --> 00:46:13,066 That is the initial of the worker. 1159 00:46:13,066 --> 00:46:15,033 And underneath, we'll see the "Rozane Ware," 1160 00:46:15,033 --> 00:46:17,300 which is a particular time period 1161 00:46:17,300 --> 00:46:19,333 in Roseville history, where they would sign 1162 00:46:19,333 --> 00:46:22,066 their pieces with this medallion. 1163 00:46:22,066 --> 00:46:23,766 Now, there's some damage here. 1164 00:46:23,766 --> 00:46:26,866 There's little chips on the enameling. 1165 00:46:26,866 --> 00:46:28,366 You can have it repaired if you wish. 1166 00:46:28,366 --> 00:46:32,500 Per chip, it'll cost maybe $100 to $150. 1167 00:46:32,500 --> 00:46:34,533 Most pieces of Della Robbia 1168 00:46:34,533 --> 00:46:38,566 have some kind of damage to them, or restoration, 1169 00:46:38,566 --> 00:46:42,233 because it's a very porous, low-fired item. 1170 00:46:42,233 --> 00:46:43,400 Because this piece, 1171 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,566 with its lovely daisies-- 1172 00:46:45,566 --> 00:46:47,600 which also looks great from the top, by the way-- 1173 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:51,866 is so wonderful, so great, so rare, 1174 00:46:51,866 --> 00:46:54,400 even with all these little flakes, 1175 00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:55,700 at auction, 1176 00:46:55,700 --> 00:46:56,933 we would certainly put that 1177 00:46:56,933 --> 00:46:59,000 at $10,000 to $15,000. 1178 00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,266 You're kidding! 1179 00:47:01,266 --> 00:47:02,933 Okay. 1180 00:47:02,933 --> 00:47:04,433 Right now, my husband's jumping up and down, 1181 00:47:04,433 --> 00:47:06,533 saying, "Sell, sell, sell!" (laughing) 1182 00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:22,833 These came down to me from my great-grandfather, 1183 00:47:22,833 --> 00:47:26,000 who acquired them out in, uh, Nebraska. 1184 00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:29,700 He ran the government store among the Indians 1185 00:47:29,700 --> 00:47:31,666 from 1871 to 1873. 1186 00:47:31,666 --> 00:47:34,633 And while he was out there, of course, he interacted 1187 00:47:34,633 --> 00:47:37,500 with the various tribes that came through, 1188 00:47:37,500 --> 00:47:39,766 and this is just a small sampling 1189 00:47:39,766 --> 00:47:41,800 of the items he brought back. 1190 00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:43,766 I think I'll start 1191 00:47:43,766 --> 00:47:45,833 with the trunk up on the top here. 1192 00:47:45,833 --> 00:47:47,266 These are called parfleche trunks. 1193 00:47:47,266 --> 00:47:49,866 Now, normally, they were in an envelope size. 1194 00:47:49,866 --> 00:47:51,800 They would be much flatter, 1195 00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,533 and they were used to store meat. 1196 00:47:53,533 --> 00:47:54,733 A big trunk like this-- 1197 00:47:54,733 --> 00:47:56,500 there was only a couple of groups 1198 00:47:56,500 --> 00:47:58,933 that made these trunks, and they were more for clothing. 1199 00:47:58,933 --> 00:48:00,166 Oh. 1200 00:48:00,166 --> 00:48:01,666 They're made out of buffalo rawhide. 1201 00:48:01,666 --> 00:48:04,233 The paint is probably a Chinese vermilion 1202 00:48:04,233 --> 00:48:05,933 that was traded out onto the Plains, 1203 00:48:05,933 --> 00:48:08,200 and a black, which was probably charcoal. 1204 00:48:08,200 --> 00:48:11,566 This probably dates to about the 1830s or '40s. 1205 00:48:11,566 --> 00:48:12,733 Uh-huh. 1206 00:48:12,733 --> 00:48:15,733 The second piece, they call these possible bags. 1207 00:48:15,733 --> 00:48:17,833 You can put anything possible in them. 1208 00:48:17,833 --> 00:48:19,200 Good name. 1209 00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:20,966 It was used to store clothing and things like that. 1210 00:48:20,966 --> 00:48:23,100 And they weren't worn, they were just 1211 00:48:23,100 --> 00:48:24,666 put on the inside of a teepee or an earth lodge. 1212 00:48:24,666 --> 00:48:25,700 Mm-hmm. 1213 00:48:25,700 --> 00:48:27,000 This one is really nice 1214 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,133 because you can pinpoint-date it. 1215 00:48:29,133 --> 00:48:30,766 It has three different style beads. 1216 00:48:30,766 --> 00:48:33,500 It has a really fine seed bead, 1217 00:48:33,500 --> 00:48:37,266 and then it has a size we call a real bead, 1218 00:48:37,266 --> 00:48:39,366 and then it has the larger-sized pony beads. 1219 00:48:39,366 --> 00:48:41,000 These are called pony beads 1220 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,000 because they were brought out on pack horses, ponies. 1221 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,400 Okay. 1222 00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,166 This is made out of buffalo hide, 1223 00:48:46,166 --> 00:48:48,233 and because of all these three size beads, 1224 00:48:48,233 --> 00:48:50,566 we can date this right to about the 1840s. 1225 00:48:50,566 --> 00:48:51,600 Wow. 1226 00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:53,966 Then we have an elk antler quirt. 1227 00:48:53,966 --> 00:48:56,866 These are used as a horse whip and also as a weapon. 1228 00:48:56,866 --> 00:48:59,133 They'd clout an enemy on horseback with this. 1229 00:48:59,133 --> 00:49:01,033 Mm-hmm, it's, it's quite substantial. Yeah. 1230 00:49:01,033 --> 00:49:04,066 And that has a nice trade cloth strap 1231 00:49:04,066 --> 00:49:05,533 with some minimal beadwork 1232 00:49:05,533 --> 00:49:08,466 and a beautiful buffalo-hide lash on it. 1233 00:49:08,466 --> 00:49:09,566 And last but not least, 1234 00:49:09,566 --> 00:49:11,966 we have a elk horn scraper 1235 00:49:11,966 --> 00:49:14,900 the women would use to, to clean their hides. 1236 00:49:14,900 --> 00:49:16,666 This is a particularly nice one. 1237 00:49:16,666 --> 00:49:19,266 These dots probably represent hides. 1238 00:49:19,266 --> 00:49:20,633 It's a tally, it's a... Oh! 1239 00:49:20,633 --> 00:49:22,000 It's how many hides they, they skinned with it. 1240 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,233 Oh, for heaven's sake. 1241 00:49:23,233 --> 00:49:26,800 This one has wonderful iconography, 1242 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:30,700 especially these military figures up here. 1243 00:49:30,700 --> 00:49:32,133 The type of uniforms they're wearing 1244 00:49:32,133 --> 00:49:35,766 date to the late 18th- early 19th century. 1245 00:49:35,766 --> 00:49:37,700 It's kind of difficult to say exactly 1246 00:49:37,700 --> 00:49:39,800 which tribe made these objects, 1247 00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:44,133 but since he was in Nebraska, the Pawnee were in Nebraska, 1248 00:49:44,133 --> 00:49:45,600 the Iowa were near there, 1249 00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:47,566 and the Sac-Fox were near there. 1250 00:49:47,566 --> 00:49:49,933 I have to tell you, in the ten years 1251 00:49:49,933 --> 00:49:51,300 I've been doing "Antiques Roadshow," 1252 00:49:51,300 --> 00:49:53,500 these are the finest things I've ever seen. Really? 1253 00:49:53,500 --> 00:49:54,900 Yeah, they're, they're absolutely beautiful. 1254 00:49:54,900 --> 00:49:56,566 Oh, I'm so thrilled, I'm so thrilled. 1255 00:49:56,566 --> 00:49:58,633 Starting with the parfleche trunk, 1256 00:49:58,633 --> 00:50:00,866 I would put a auction value 1257 00:50:00,866 --> 00:50:02,800 of about $20,000 to $30,000 on this. 1258 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:04,033 Oh, my goodness. 1259 00:50:04,033 --> 00:50:05,233 (laughs) 1260 00:50:05,233 --> 00:50:06,400 The possible bag, 1261 00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,600 I'm going to put $30,000 to $50,000. 1262 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:09,800 Mmm. 1263 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,400 The elk horn quirt, 1264 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:14,833 which is one of the finest ones I've ever seen, 1265 00:50:14,833 --> 00:50:17,200 I'm going to put $30,000 to $50,000 on that. 1266 00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:18,400 (laughs): Oh, my goodness, oh! 1267 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,066 The scraper is a masterpiece. 1268 00:50:21,066 --> 00:50:23,766 This is the finest elk horn scraper I've ever seen. 1269 00:50:23,766 --> 00:50:25,166 Mmm. 1270 00:50:25,166 --> 00:50:27,000 And conservatively, I'm going to put 1271 00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,100 an estimate of $50,000 to $70,000 on it. 1272 00:50:29,100 --> 00:50:30,400 Oh, my word, I'm just... 1273 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:32,300 I'm just blown away, I really am. 1274 00:50:32,300 --> 00:50:33,466 That's wonderful. 1275 00:50:33,466 --> 00:50:34,700 So, just these four pieces, 1276 00:50:34,700 --> 00:50:38,966 I would conservatively say $130,000 to $200,000. 1277 00:50:38,966 --> 00:50:40,733 Well, they're, they're real treasures, and... 1278 00:50:40,733 --> 00:50:42,700 They are absolutely treasures. 1279 00:50:42,700 --> 00:50:44,666 And I'm, I'm so pleased that we have retained them 1280 00:50:44,666 --> 00:50:47,066 and they can be passed down through the generations. 1281 00:50:47,066 --> 00:50:49,366 I'm glad you have, too. 1282 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:58,433 PEÑA: You're watching 1283 00:50:58,433 --> 00:51:01,000 PEÑA: And now it's time for the "Roadshow" Feedback Booth. 1284 00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:04,466 This is our 90-year-old bean pot-- not really-- 1285 00:51:04,466 --> 00:51:09,000 um, worth millions-- not really-- but $15. 1286 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,366 And we had a great day today. 1287 00:51:10,366 --> 00:51:11,300 We did. 1288 00:51:11,300 --> 00:51:12,633 We brought our "antiques" sign, 1289 00:51:12,633 --> 00:51:14,900 but we can't find the one that says "roadshow." 1290 00:51:14,900 --> 00:51:16,300 We brought this book, which we thought was 1291 00:51:16,300 --> 00:51:18,300 a first edition of "To Kill a Mockingbird," 1292 00:51:18,300 --> 00:51:19,633 and it's not. 1293 00:51:19,633 --> 00:51:21,333 Turns out it's not-- it has a barcode on it. 1294 00:51:21,333 --> 00:51:22,966 In 1960, they didn't have barcodes, 1295 00:51:22,966 --> 00:51:24,533 so, um, probably should have thought of that 1296 00:51:24,533 --> 00:51:25,900 before I brought it in. 1297 00:51:25,900 --> 00:51:28,300 Mom, you know that rosary you thought we'd fight over 1298 00:51:28,300 --> 00:51:30,200 when you passed away, 1299 00:51:30,200 --> 00:51:32,466 and you, we could take it out of your coffin? 1300 00:51:32,466 --> 00:51:34,166 Well, you can take it with you, 1301 00:51:34,166 --> 00:51:36,333 'cause it's not worth anything. 1302 00:51:36,333 --> 00:51:38,433 We still may fight for it, though! (laughs) 1303 00:51:38,433 --> 00:51:40,033 I brought in my Baltimore Colts 1304 00:51:40,033 --> 00:51:42,700 1970 Super Bowl World Champions ball 1305 00:51:42,700 --> 00:51:44,733 autographed by most of the team, 1306 00:51:44,733 --> 00:51:48,800 and they appraised it today at about $2,000 or $3,000, 1307 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:51,666 which is a couple of thousand more than I thought 1308 00:51:51,666 --> 00:51:52,933 it was going to be. 1309 00:51:52,933 --> 00:51:55,833 And I found out that my vase here that I believed 1310 00:51:55,833 --> 00:51:59,600 was possibly worth a lot of money is only worth about $100. 1311 00:51:59,600 --> 00:52:01,633 But I certainly had fun. 1312 00:52:01,633 --> 00:52:03,366 We thought it was worth a billion. 1313 00:52:03,366 --> 00:52:04,766 (both laugh) 1314 00:52:04,766 --> 00:52:07,133 And I emailed all my friends, and I told them I was coming 1315 00:52:07,133 --> 00:52:08,866 to the Antiques Roadshow. 1316 00:52:08,866 --> 00:52:11,200 And if these were going to price high, I was leaving here, 1317 00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:12,633 and I was driving straight to New York 1318 00:52:12,633 --> 00:52:16,033 and put them on the auction-- and not come back to work. 1319 00:52:16,033 --> 00:52:18,933 But the value of this was $300 and this was $300. 1320 00:52:18,933 --> 00:52:21,233 So Monday, I'll see you at work. 1321 00:52:21,233 --> 00:52:23,033 Take care, thank you. 1322 00:52:23,033 --> 00:52:24,333 PEÑA: Thanks for watching. 1323 00:52:24,333 --> 00:52:26,900 See you next time on "Antiques Roadshow."