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GUEST: Today, I brought the
clothes#
that were worn by my father when
he##

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was a prisoner of war in
Vietnam. He was shot#down...

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captured. And he was in a
variety of different#prisoner...

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he was at the, the infamous
French prison#Hoa Lo, also kn...

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APPRAISER: Mm-hmm.

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GUEST: And that he..

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APPRAISER: Did he have any other
interesting,#uh, people that...

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GUEST: Oh, absolutely. He told
me a great#story that the fi...

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in jail was a joke that John
McCain#
had tapped through the wall.
They were##

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sharing a wall while they were
both in solitary#confineme...

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APPRAISER: (chuckling) So
John#McCain tapped the joke...

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GUEST: Tapped the joke to him.
Yes.

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APPRAISER: Wow. Wow.

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GUEST: John McCain was shot#down
the day befo..

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and they were repatriated the
same#day in order of their sh...

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APPRAISER: Wow. Wow, well, he
was a, uh, F-105#Thunderchi...

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GUEST: Thud pilot, yes, yes.

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APPRAISER: Yup, yup. And we
have#some great th..

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uh, top and trousers, um,
from#jail, uh, from the pri...

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GUEST: Yes, from jail.
APPRAISER: ...with his prisoner
numbers on them.

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GUEST: Yes.
APPRAISER: Um, we've got his
bag, uh,

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with more material in there. And
the bag#
has the original Red Cross tag
on it.

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GUEST: Yeah, this is the
original#Red Cross tag. And t...

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tag right here was written by
the North#Vietnamese and t...

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APPRAISER: And we've got a pair
of#sandals that he wore...

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GUEST: Yes, the Vietnamese said#
that those were made out of
the##

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tires of the airplane that he
was shot down in.

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APPRAISER: Hm.
GUEST: So it was mental cruelty
right there, too.

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APPRAISER: Right.
GUEST: That he had to walk in
those shoes.

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APPRAISER: And what about the
spoon?

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GUEST: The spoon, that was#
his spoon when he was, uh,##

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for-for all his meals. And in an
act of#
defiance, he etched a
thunderbolt in the##

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bowl of the spoon. I guess it
was just his#
own little way to have some sort
of control.

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APPRAISER: Right, right. And
then one of the#
most iconic things here, because
I remember##

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it as a kid, um, I remember this
picture,#
is the one right here. Tell us
about that.

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GUEST: This picture is called
Burst of Joy. It#
was taken at Travis Air Force
Base on March 17,##

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1973. Um, this was the first
moment we saw my dad.#
When the aircraft landed, we
were in a car behind##

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the aircraft on the tarmac, and
then they said,#
"You can get out now." So we
just burst out of##

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the car and started running to
my dad. And it was#
captured by Sal Veder, uh, an
A.P. photographer,##

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and he won the Pulitzer Prize in
photography for#
this picture, the Burst of Joy.
The photograph##

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was given to me personally by
Sal in 1990; he#
signed it, "Lorrie, with best
wishes, Sal Veder."

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APPRAISER: Wow. And where are
you?

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GUEST: (laughs) I'm known as#
"the leaper" or "the jumper.”

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APPRAISER: "The leaper?”
(laughs) Well, I gotta#
say, if it was my dad, I'd be
leap..

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GUEST: We were very excited.

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APPRAISER: I'm sure. And I
remember this#
as a kid. I remember seeing it
..

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and I also remember the video
footage of him,#
uh, leaving North Vietnam with
John McCain.

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GUEST: Yes.

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APPRAISER: Great stuff. Um, and
..

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GUEST: Yes.

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APPRAISER: ...that goes ..

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GUEST: Yes.

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APPRAISER: I'm having a hard
time, too.

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GUEST: (chuckling) Yeah, it-it
is, it touches.

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APPRAISER: Um, so as an auction
estimate,#
it would be in the $2,500 to
$3,000 range...

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APPRAISER: ...which doesn't
seem#
like a whole lot. However, um,##

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the historical value on this is
absolutely#
priceless. Um, and what a moving
story it is.

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GUEST: My dad is alive. He is
doing fabulous.#
Uh, he's healthy. He's well.
He's 89 years old.

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APPRAISER: Wow. Well, please,
uh, tell him#
when you get home, thank you for
his service.

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GUEST: Thank you, I will. He'll
be#
very pleased to hear that, thank
you.