1 00:00:01,401 --> 00:00:03,870 GUEST: Today, I brought the clothes# that were worn by my father when he## 2 00:00:03,870 --> 00:00:12,112 was a prisoner of war in Vietnam. He was shot#down... 3 00:00:12,112 --> 00:00:17,984 captured. And he was in a variety of different#prisoner... 4 00:00:17,984 --> 00:00:24,024 he was at the, the infamous French prison#Hoa Lo, also kn... 5 00:00:24,024 --> 00:00:24,557 APPRAISER: Mm-hmm. 6 00:00:24,557 --> 00:00:28,495 GUEST: And that he.. 7 00:00:28,495 --> 00:00:32,565 APPRAISER: Did he have any other interesting,#uh, people that... 8 00:00:32,565 --> 00:00:39,105 GUEST: Oh, absolutely. He told me a great#story that the fi... 9 00:00:39,105 --> 00:00:45,545 in jail was a joke that John McCain# had tapped through the wall. They were## 10 00:00:45,545 --> 00:00:49,783 sharing a wall while they were both in solitary#confineme... 11 00:00:49,783 --> 00:00:52,685 APPRAISER: (chuckling) So John#McCain tapped the joke... 12 00:00:52,685 --> 00:00:55,021 GUEST: Tapped the joke to him. Yes. 13 00:00:55,021 --> 00:00:56,022 APPRAISER: Wow. Wow. 14 00:00:56,022 --> 00:00:57,624 GUEST: John McCain was shot#down the day befo.. 15 00:00:57,624 --> 00:01:03,196 and they were repatriated the same#day in order of their sh... 16 00:01:03,196 --> 00:01:10,437 APPRAISER: Wow. Wow, well, he was a, uh, F-105#Thunderchi... 17 00:01:10,437 --> 00:01:11,471 GUEST: Thud pilot, yes, yes. 18 00:01:11,471 --> 00:01:13,873 APPRAISER: Yup, yup. And we have#some great th.. 19 00:01:13,873 --> 00:01:19,245 uh, top and trousers, um, from#jail, uh, from the pri... 20 00:01:19,245 --> 00:01:21,681 GUEST: Yes, from jail. APPRAISER: ...with his prisoner numbers on them. 21 00:01:21,681 --> 00:01:24,150 GUEST: Yes. APPRAISER: Um, we've got his bag, uh, 22 00:01:24,150 --> 00:01:27,854 with more material in there. And the bag# has the original Red Cross tag on it. 23 00:01:27,854 --> 00:01:31,124 GUEST: Yeah, this is the original#Red Cross tag. And t... 24 00:01:31,124 --> 00:01:36,129 tag right here was written by the North#Vietnamese and t... 25 00:01:36,129 --> 00:01:39,132 APPRAISER: And we've got a pair of#sandals that he wore... 26 00:01:39,132 --> 00:01:42,702 GUEST: Yes, the Vietnamese said# that those were made out of the## 27 00:01:42,702 --> 00:01:45,572 tires of the airplane that he was shot down in. 28 00:01:45,572 --> 00:01:48,975 APPRAISER: Hm. GUEST: So it was mental cruelty right there, too. 29 00:01:48,975 --> 00:01:50,810 APPRAISER: Right. GUEST: That he had to walk in those shoes. 30 00:01:50,810 --> 00:01:52,011 APPRAISER: And what about the spoon? 31 00:01:52,011 --> 00:01:54,981 GUEST: The spoon, that was# his spoon when he was, uh,## 32 00:01:54,981 --> 00:02:01,421 for-for all his meals. And in an act of# defiance, he etched a thunderbolt in the## 33 00:02:01,421 --> 00:02:08,428 bowl of the spoon. I guess it was just his# own little way to have some sort of control. 34 00:02:08,428 --> 00:02:12,799 APPRAISER: Right, right. And then one of the# most iconic things here, because I remember## 35 00:02:12,799 --> 00:02:18,705 it as a kid, um, I remember this picture,# is the one right here. Tell us about that. 36 00:02:18,705 --> 00:02:25,245 GUEST: This picture is called Burst of Joy. It# was taken at Travis Air Force Base on March 17,## 37 00:02:25,245 --> 00:02:36,122 1973. Um, this was the first moment we saw my dad.# When the aircraft landed, we were in a car behind## 38 00:02:36,122 --> 00:02:42,362 the aircraft on the tarmac, and then they said,# "You can get out now." So we just burst out of## 39 00:02:42,362 --> 00:02:50,703 the car and started running to my dad. And it was# captured by Sal Veder, uh, an A.P. photographer,## 40 00:02:50,703 --> 00:02:57,510 and he won the Pulitzer Prize in photography for# this picture, the Burst of Joy. The photograph## 41 00:02:57,510 --> 00:03:04,617 was given to me personally by Sal in 1990; he# signed it, "Lorrie, with best wishes, Sal Veder." 42 00:03:04,617 --> 00:03:08,988 APPRAISER: Wow. And where are you? 43 00:03:08,988 --> 00:03:10,690 GUEST: (laughs) I'm known as# "the leaper" or "the jumper.” 44 00:03:10,690 --> 00:03:14,594 APPRAISER: "The leaper?” (laughs) Well, I gotta# say, if it was my dad, I'd be leap.. 45 00:03:14,594 --> 00:03:16,062 GUEST: We were very excited. 46 00:03:16,062 --> 00:03:20,066 APPRAISER: I'm sure. And I remember this# as a kid. I remember seeing it .. 47 00:03:20,066 --> 00:03:26,039 and I also remember the video footage of him,# uh, leaving North Vietnam with John McCain. 48 00:03:26,039 --> 00:03:26,839 GUEST: Yes. 49 00:03:26,839 --> 00:03:32,545 APPRAISER: Great stuff. Um, and .. 50 00:03:32,545 --> 00:03:33,179 GUEST: Yes. 51 00:03:33,179 --> 00:03:34,247 APPRAISER: ...that goes .. 52 00:03:34,247 --> 00:03:35,582 GUEST: Yes. 53 00:03:35,582 --> 00:03:36,816 APPRAISER: I'm having a hard time, too. 54 00:03:36,816 --> 00:03:38,818 GUEST: (chuckling) Yeah, it-it is, it touches. 55 00:03:38,818 --> 00:03:43,957 APPRAISER: Um, so as an auction estimate,# it would be in the $2,500 to $3,000 range... 56 00:03:43,957 --> 00:03:47,026 APPRAISER: ...which doesn't seem# like a whole lot. However, um,## 57 00:03:47,026 --> 00:03:52,498 the historical value on this is absolutely# priceless. Um, and what a moving story it is. 58 00:03:52,498 --> 00:04:00,873 GUEST: My dad is alive. He is doing fabulous.# Uh, he's healthy. He's well. He's 89 years old. 59 00:04:00,873 --> 00:04:05,211 APPRAISER: Wow. Well, please, uh, tell him# when you get home, thank you for his service. 60 00:04:05,211 --> 00:04:08,948 GUEST: Thank you, I will. He'll be# very pleased to hear that, thank you.