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You can touch something that 
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I mean, it just sends a thrill.

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Oh, gosh.

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Wow. 
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Right now in "Antiques 
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PEÑA: 
Nashville's Cheekwood Estate 
and Gardens

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was our first stop in 2022.

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Once home to 
Leslie and Mabel Cheek,

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this masterful combination

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of architecture, design, 
and nature

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was planned by Bryant Fleming

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and was completed in 1932.

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Today, the combination

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of Cheekwood's beautiful 
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and the treasures of our guests

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is creating excitement.

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Mm-hmm. 
That's the Vicksburg 
and this is the other one.

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MAN: 
These are our group of 
Civil War letters

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that are from two brothers

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that were at the Siege of 
Vicksburg.

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They wrote the letters 
together

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and signed them Lem and Cam 
McNabb.

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From what little research that I 
have done,

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it looks like Lem was probably 
captured

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at Vicksburg, and then later 
died in prison.

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And the, Cam went on to be also 
captured

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at, at Vicksburg,

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paroled on 
July the 4th of '63,

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and joined the Union Army

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February of '64 
in Nashville.

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And you're right, 
we did a little bit of research

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on the brothers. 
Mm-hmm.

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And Lemuel was actually 
captured on May 17

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at the Battle of 
Big Black River Bridge.

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Somewhere between 260 and 329 
members of that regiment

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were captured that day. 
(whispers): 
Wow.

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Those guys all got 
a ticket up North

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to Fort Delaware. 
Mm.

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And the reason we don't 
hear from Lem anymore

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is, a few months later, 
he dies in prison.

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Campbell takes another 
way out.

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He gets captured when 
the city falls.

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He's part of the regiment that 
survives that battle.

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And as you noted,

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he then turns and 
joins the Union Army.

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He galvanizes, 
and becomes a Galvanized Yankee

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fighting for the Union.

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That's just something you 
don't normally see

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in a group of letters.

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Now, there's a lot 
of reasons

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he might have made 
this decision.

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It might have just been 
a very practical one

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because he didn't want 
to go to prison.

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He didn't want to have 
to deal with

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being trapped in 
a parole camp,

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waiting to be 
exchanged.

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He may have also not 
wanted to fight

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for the Confederacy in 
the first place. 
Mm.

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A lot of the 
East Tennesseans

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were Union sympathizers. 
Mm-hmm.

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They did not vote 
for Tennessee to secede. 
Ah.

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It was Middle Tennessee 
and West Tennessee

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that really forced 
the issue,

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as far as seceding 
from the Union.

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And it's also possible

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that what he saw 
in Vicksburg,

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which was one of the 
most horrific places to be

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during the siege, if you were 
on the Confederate side,

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may well have affected 
his decision.

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Outside, you've got 
a Union Army

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that's relatively well 
supplied.

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They're eating, 
they're relatively healthy... 
Uh-huh.

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...in the greater scheme 
of things.

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And inside Vicksburg, 
you've got people

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literally living on rats 
to survive.

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And it's not just the two 
we've got here.

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You have an entire archive 
of roughly 20 letters.

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This letter has a particularly 
interesting description

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of something that he saw while 
he was in

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the defenses of Vicksburg.

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"We saw an awful sight 
yesterday.

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"Saw a man shot.

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"He was an artilleryman,

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"belonged to the First 
Louisiana Regiment.

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"He had refused to fight, 
spiked the cannon,

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and ran off to 
the Federal Army."

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Of course, spiking the cannon 
makes it inoperable.

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You can't fire it 
anymore.

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That's the ultimate in 
desertion.

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Not only did he leave the lines,

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but he rendered the weapon

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he was supposed to use 
inoperable... 
Mm-hmm.

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...so that the other forces 
couldn't use it

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in defense of the 
fortifications.

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As we talk about value 
of these letters,

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there's always some 
additional value

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that's placed 
on Confederate items

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because there's a 
lot less of it

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and it is actively collected

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because, 
as in any conflict,

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souvenirs get collected

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by the winners

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from the losers. 
Mm.

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And there's some enhanced 
value

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because of the content of 
the letters.

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They're so descriptive.

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And then the other wonderful 
thing about this archive

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is that it covers a couple 
of years of war service

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where he does change sides.

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At auction, the one that has 
this wonderful description

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of the artillery 
just on its own could be

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a $500 to $1,000 letter,

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'cause it's such 
an interesting story.

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This letter, which talks 
about him

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joining the Union Army,

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that's probably a 
a $500 to $700 letter.

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Monetary value is,

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I was not expecting at all.

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Um, but the historic value

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for us T, East Tennesseans is 
just immeasurable.

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Absolutely.

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It's the people that went 
through the events

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that give you the clearest view 
into what was happening.

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This is a Kinstler drawing

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that he drew when he 
was 20.

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And he rolled it up 
and sent it to England,

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to George Bernard Shaw,

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and he never thought 
he would see it again.

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And he sent it back a few 
months later with,

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"Is this me? Good heavens! 
George Bernard Shaw."

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(laughs) 
And how did you 
come by it?

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My father gave it 
to me.

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This clock belonged 
to my grandmother.

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She lived in 
a small town in Alabama,

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but she lived like 
she was on

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Rodeo Drive 
or somewhere, so... 
Oh, good.

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Oh, sure. 
She had clocks 
on every mantel,

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a clock in every room.

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But what was really special 
about this one

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is, when it would strike... 
Yeah.

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...it played this beautiful, 
like, little melody.

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I remember the sound of it 
more than anything.

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Chimes every 15 minutes. 
Yeah.

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And it's playing the Westminster 
Chimes.

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This is what Big Ben plays

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in London. 
Okay.

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Huh. 
The clock is made 
by Paragon.

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They were a clock company 
in the mid-1970s. 
Mm-hmm.

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And the mechanism is German.

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Pillar and scroll form, 
it's an eight-day clock.

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And this is about a $175 
to $250 clock.

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Built... 
Well, thank you so much.

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I appreciate it. 
Thank you for coming.

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My great-grandfather

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was fascinated with 
the West.

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And then my grandfather, 
his son,

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took the train out to Denver 
from New York,

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and rode 800 miles with 
a group of Native Americans

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and spent time with 
the Navajo, uh, Hopi,

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and a few other tribes.

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So these were 
just items

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he acquired along the way?

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Yes, and 
I'm not sure what

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my great-grandfather got

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versus what my 
grandfather got,

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but their trips were all 
finished by 1916,

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so everything would 
pre-date that.

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Have you put 
any study into them?

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I think they're Hopi.

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Just east of 
the Hopi First Mesa,

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there was a pueblo that had 
been abandoned

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in the 16th century,

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but there was a potter

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by the name of Nampeyo

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that lived in the region.

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She would go down and find 
shards,

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and it inspired her 
to create a revival

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of that pottery style.

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She was born in 1859,

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died in 1942. 
Okay.

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And it's very difficult 
to authenticate her pieces.

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She never signed any 
of her pieces,

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but there's an 
elegance to them.

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She used a lot of 
bird wings.

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These are really beautiful 
examples,

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and I would attribute them

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as Nampeyo. 
Oh, really?

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Oh, neat. 
Probably date to the time

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that he was there in 1916. 
Okay.

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So they're from 
the turn of the century. 
Okay.

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And what is this?

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Is that, like, a... 
It's a canteen.

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A canteen? Okay.

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And it's a personal use 
canteen. 
Mm-hmm.

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And there were enough people 
coming through

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that she was making 
these to sell

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to visitors. 
Mm-hmm.

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The canteen is charming, 
absolutely charming.

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And at auction, I'd put an 
estimate of maybe

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$1,200 to $1,800 on it. 
Oh, wow.

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The bowl has a lug 
for hanging,

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and would, they would hang them 
in their own homes,

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would carry a price of

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$2,000 to $3,000. 
Oh, wow.

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This center bowl is as elegant 
as they can be.

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It has great form,

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beautiful color, 
exquisite painting.

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And I would place its 
value at

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$12,000 to $14,000. 
Oh, my God!

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Wow. 
(chuckles) 
So...

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So... 
Well, thank you.

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That's fab,

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that's great news. 
(laughs)

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PEÑA: 
The Gem State provided 
both rain and shine

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for "Roadshow's" visit to 
the Idaho Botanical Garden,

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which showed 
off its natural treasures

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as "Roadshow" experts

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pored over the crowd's 
prized possessions.

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Fine thing.

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WOMAN: 
My wonderful grammy 
gave it to me.

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My grammy loved antiques,

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and she would go antiquing 
all the time.

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When she would bring home 
her antiques,

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she would disperse them 
around her house

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in areas where my grandpa 
wouldn't see it.

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She would bring it out 
about after three months,

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and he would notice it 
and say,

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"Well, is that new?"

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And she, "No, no, no, dear.

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"That just came from 
the other room.

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I'm just rearranging 
antiques."

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So you have no idea what 
she paid for it

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or anything? 
No.

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She didn't know anything 
about it, either.

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She was terrible-- 
she kept no records,

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because "records" 
could be looked at

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by her husband. 
(laughing)

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Oh, I get that, 
I get that. 
(both laugh)

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It is bronze. 
Okay.

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And it's mounted on 
a ceramic vase,

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which is probably porcelain.

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The design is just spectacular, 
with all this sea life.

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Around the bottom,

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we have starfish and 
maybe some type of coral.

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Then we got this 
wonderful seaweed

254
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wrapping around the vase,

255
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with three terrific 
seahorses.

256
00:09:39,633 --> 00:09:42,333
Wow. 
With their tails 
wrapped around

257
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the edge of 
the seaweed.

258
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And then in, on the back,

259
00:09:45,600 --> 00:09:48,433
we really get to see 
the beautiful, rich glaze.

260
00:09:48,433 --> 00:09:50,333
And these glazes are very 
much inspired

261
00:09:50,333 --> 00:09:52,566
by ancient Chinese 
ceramics... 
Oh!

262
00:09:52,566 --> 00:09:55,066
...and porcelains, 
which European makers

263
00:09:55,066 --> 00:09:57,066
loved to try 
to imitate.

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On the bottom...

265
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Mm-hmm. 
...there is a signature,

266
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which before today... 
Huh!

267
00:10:00,700 --> 00:10:01,700
...you didn't know 
was there, right?

268
00:10:01,700 --> 00:10:03,000
I, I didn't. 
(laughs)

269
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Right here at 
the bottom.

270
00:10:04,500 --> 00:10:05,866
Oh! Yep.

271
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It says "L. Chalon."

272
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C-H-A-L-O-N.

273
00:10:10,866 --> 00:10:13,800
Oh. 
And this was done by 
an artist named

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Louis Chalon.

275
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Oh. 
Who was French.

276
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He was born in 1866,

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and he lived until 1940. 
Oh, wow.

278
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Um, and he was 
a multitalented,

279
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really 
interesting man.

280
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He, he studied painting,

281
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he did book illustration.

282
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He worked in gold, 
he worked in silver.

283
00:10:31,766 --> 00:10:32,800
Wow. 
But at some point,

284
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he kind of 
settled on bronze.

285
00:10:34,266 --> 00:10:37,200
And most of his bronzes 
are just solid bronze. 
Oh!

286
00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,066
But he sometimes incorporated 
other materials, like this... 
Mm-hmm.

287
00:10:40,066 --> 00:10:41,300
...into his sculptures.

288
00:10:41,300 --> 00:10:43,533
In a few cases, 
he did ceramics.

289
00:10:43,533 --> 00:10:46,466
And with great care, 
we could unfasten it.

290
00:10:46,466 --> 00:10:48,433
And possibly, 
it's marked. 
(laughs)

291
00:10:48,433 --> 00:10:49,800
But one thing 
we're certain...

292
00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:51,333
Mm-hmm. 
...is that it's French.

293
00:10:51,333 --> 00:10:52,833
We think it might 
be made

294
00:10:52,833 --> 00:10:54,133
by Sèvres Porcelain. 
Right.

295
00:10:54,133 --> 00:10:57,533
This is probably made 
around 1900, 1910,

296
00:10:57,533 --> 00:10:59,100
1915. 
Wow, okay.

297
00:10:59,100 --> 00:11:01,233
Okay, wow. 
And one question is,

298
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was this originally 
a vase? 
Yes.

299
00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:08,533
That was converted to 
a t, a lamp? 
Hmm.

300
00:11:08,533 --> 00:11:09,800
Or was it always 
a lamp?

301
00:11:09,800 --> 00:11:11,100
We looked at it 
very closely.

302
00:11:11,100 --> 00:11:12,900
Okay. 
And we think 
it was always a lamp.

303
00:11:12,900 --> 00:11:14,766
Oh! 
It's really hard 
to say

304
00:11:14,766 --> 00:11:16,133
because there are 
so few examples

305
00:11:16,133 --> 00:11:17,400
of his work like this. 
Mm-hmm, oh.

306
00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,433
But our guess, 
it would probably sell,

307
00:11:19,433 --> 00:11:20,633
for a retail price,

308
00:11:20,633 --> 00:11:23,133
somewhere in the $3,000 
to $5,000 range.

309
00:11:23,133 --> 00:11:24,133
Oh, my goodness.

310
00:11:24,133 --> 00:11:25,700
That's absolutely 
fantastic.

311
00:11:25,700 --> 00:11:28,566
It's an absolute gem 
in my house.

312
00:11:28,566 --> 00:11:31,733
So, I thank you for giving me 
all this information.

313
00:11:33,733 --> 00:11:35,166
MAN: 
The family story is that

314
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my grandmother and 
grandfather

315
00:11:37,433 --> 00:11:39,433
went on a tour 
of Europe

316
00:11:39,433 --> 00:11:42,633
and decided to bring back 
some items to commemorate it.

317
00:11:42,633 --> 00:11:44,300
And this is one of 
the things they bought,

318
00:11:44,300 --> 00:11:46,266
and I think it was in 
the early '30s.

319
00:11:46,266 --> 00:11:47,600
Well, that makes sense.

320
00:11:47,600 --> 00:11:50,233
People were doing 
the Grand Tour at that time

321
00:11:50,233 --> 00:11:52,600
and collecting art 
along the way.

322
00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:53,900
The painting is by

323
00:11:53,900 --> 00:11:56,233
Pierre Jan van der Ouderaa.

324
00:11:56,233 --> 00:11:57,666
He was a Flemish painter,

325
00:11:57,666 --> 00:12:00,666
born in Antwerp in 1841,

326
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and studied 
all over Europe.

327
00:12:04,100 --> 00:12:05,533
Went to the Middle East,

328
00:12:05,533 --> 00:12:08,800
and he was 
an academic painter.

329
00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,133
So the painting is 
titled "Lovers,"

330
00:12:11,133 --> 00:12:12,300
but when you first 
brought it

331
00:12:12,300 --> 00:12:14,100
to the table, 
you, um,

332
00:12:14,100 --> 00:12:15,800
had another idea.

333
00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:17,400
Well, I was 
just commenting that

334
00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:18,700
he probably should have 
named it "Lover,"

335
00:12:18,700 --> 00:12:20,066
because she looks really,

336
00:12:20,066 --> 00:12:21,866
you know, 
unexcited to be there.

337
00:12:21,866 --> 00:12:23,900
(laughs): 
So I've always been curious 
about the name

338
00:12:23,900 --> 00:12:25,366
and, and the subject matter, 
so...

339
00:12:25,366 --> 00:12:28,433
Right, he seems to be 
amorous.

340
00:12:28,433 --> 00:12:30,033
She not so. 
(laughs)

341
00:12:30,033 --> 00:12:32,233
It's in 
an academic style,

342
00:12:32,233 --> 00:12:34,200
it's dated 1875

343
00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,300
and signed 
lower right.

344
00:12:36,300 --> 00:12:38,100
It's oil on panel.

345
00:12:38,100 --> 00:12:39,333
There's a label on 
the back

346
00:12:39,333 --> 00:12:43,366
by a very well-known 
gallery out of London,

347
00:12:43,366 --> 00:12:44,666
Frost and Reed.

348
00:12:44,666 --> 00:12:46,333
And that really helps

349
00:12:46,333 --> 00:12:48,833
authenticate the painting.

350
00:12:48,833 --> 00:12:52,166
Once it's got 
their stamp of approval,

351
00:12:52,166 --> 00:12:54,000
then we know it's legitimate.

352
00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:58,000
It's unlikely that the frame 
is original.

353
00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:02,033
It was probably put on 
the painting in the 1930s,

354
00:13:02,033 --> 00:13:04,666
when your grandparents 
purchased the painting.

355
00:13:04,666 --> 00:13:06,233
It's a genre painting,

356
00:13:06,233 --> 00:13:10,033
and they're not as 
in style these days

357
00:13:10,033 --> 00:13:11,633
as they once were.

358
00:13:11,633 --> 00:13:14,300
He painted a lot of 
historical subjects.

359
00:13:14,300 --> 00:13:15,566
Those can bring

360
00:13:15,566 --> 00:13:18,100
a lot of money-- 
tens of thousands.

361
00:13:18,100 --> 00:13:21,333
This, uh, is 
an earlier work,

362
00:13:21,333 --> 00:13:22,866
and I think at 
auction,

363
00:13:22,866 --> 00:13:24,566
a fair value 
would be

364
00:13:24,566 --> 00:13:25,933
$3,000 to $5,000.

365
00:13:25,933 --> 00:13:27,200
Great, thank you.

366
00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,300
Right now, it's just in 
all my Zoom calls

367
00:13:29,300 --> 00:13:31,533
'cause it's behind me 
in my office.

368
00:13:31,533 --> 00:13:32,833
(laughs)

369
00:13:34,266 --> 00:13:36,966
So the, a lady just appeared

370
00:13:36,966 --> 00:13:38,300
and she had this box.

371
00:13:38,300 --> 00:13:41,733
It is a gold eagle.

372
00:13:41,733 --> 00:13:42,800
How wonderful.

373
00:13:42,800 --> 00:13:45,266
And on the back it says 
"KW,"

374
00:13:45,266 --> 00:13:48,200
which I am sure is 
a Chinese maker's mark

375
00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:49,200
and the "18,"

376
00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:50,866
which I think is 
18-karat gold.

377
00:13:50,866 --> 00:13:52,500
You think it was 
Hong Kong?

378
00:13:52,500 --> 00:13:54,500
I think it was probably 
made in Canton. 
Canton?

379
00:13:54,500 --> 00:13:56,233
Canton? 
Yeah, Guangzhou.

380
00:13:56,233 --> 00:13:58,166
It was made for 
the American market,

381
00:13:58,166 --> 00:14:00,266
with the eagle. 
I think it's 
because it's an eagle.

382
00:14:00,266 --> 00:14:01,733
Yeah. 
Which is really 
extraordinary.

383
00:14:01,733 --> 00:14:02,933
In fact, 
it's a brooch.

384
00:14:02,933 --> 00:14:05,066
It's not a traditional 
Chinese form.

385
00:14:05,066 --> 00:14:07,766
This is an export item, 
and therefore

386
00:14:07,766 --> 00:14:10,266
it's a different market than 
a domestic Chinese market.

387
00:14:10,266 --> 00:14:11,700
Have you ever seen 
something like this before?

388
00:14:11,700 --> 00:14:14,000
No, I've never seen 
anything like that.

389
00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:15,500
I think it's $4,000 to 
$6,000.

390
00:14:15,500 --> 00:14:18,400
That's fantastic. 
I mean, 
it's really, really rare.

391
00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,433
♪ ♪

392
00:14:20,433 --> 00:14:23,900
I brought in my larger of 
the two, uh, "Ben-Hur" play sets

393
00:14:23,900 --> 00:14:25,833
that I received when, in 1959,

394
00:14:25,833 --> 00:14:28,033
when I was eight years old, uh, 
for Christmas.

395
00:14:28,033 --> 00:14:30,266
I played with it a few times 
and my mother stuck it away.

396
00:14:30,266 --> 00:14:32,500
And so it's in, pretty, 
pretty...

397
00:14:32,500 --> 00:14:34,733
It's, like, almost, uh, next to 
mint condition, I guess.

398
00:14:34,733 --> 00:14:36,933
Do you like gladiator 
movies?

399
00:14:36,933 --> 00:14:38,700
I liked this one. 
(laughs)

400
00:14:38,700 --> 00:14:42,100
1959 was the year the Marx 
"Ben-Hur" playset came out.

401
00:14:42,100 --> 00:14:44,400
I took pictures of it

402
00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:45,733
so I wouldn't ever have 
to set it up again.

403
00:14:45,733 --> 00:14:47,866
(laughs): 
That's very, very smart. 
Yeah, yeah.

404
00:14:47,866 --> 00:14:50,166
Got it all together, you've got 
all the bits in here.

405
00:14:50,166 --> 00:14:51,900
In this condition, in the 
original box

406
00:14:51,900 --> 00:14:54,166
with all of the original 
packaging and bags,

407
00:14:54,166 --> 00:14:56,200
you're probably at around

408
00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:57,666
$800 to $1,000 at auction 
right now.

409
00:14:57,666 --> 00:14:58,866
Wow, okay, great.

410
00:14:58,866 --> 00:15:01,500
Wow, that's, that 
makes me feel good.

411
00:15:01,500 --> 00:15:03,733
It's fantastic.

412
00:15:03,733 --> 00:15:05,933
♪ ♪

413
00:15:07,500 --> 00:15:08,600
So this tea set,

414
00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,933
it was my mother's 
pride and joy.

415
00:15:10,933 --> 00:15:12,433
It belonged to, I think,

416
00:15:12,433 --> 00:15:15,600
our great-great-great- 
grandfather Robert Stuart.

417
00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:17,933
And he is credited 
with finding

418
00:15:17,933 --> 00:15:20,933
the overland passage back from 
the Pacific Northwest.

419
00:15:20,933 --> 00:15:22,833
Lewis and Clark found 
the river route,

420
00:15:22,833 --> 00:15:26,266
but he's credited with 
the, the return passage,

421
00:15:26,266 --> 00:15:28,400
and he was sent by 
John Jacob Astor.

422
00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,600
And returning to 
New York,

423
00:15:30,600 --> 00:15:31,733
he was given this 
tea set

424
00:15:31,733 --> 00:15:34,000
from John Jacob Astor for 
his wedding.

425
00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:36,533
This is an absolutely 
exceptional

426
00:15:36,533 --> 00:15:38,800
American silver 
coffee service.

427
00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,933
You obviously have 
the coffee pot here.

428
00:15:40,933 --> 00:15:42,900
You have the sugar, 
which is covered,

429
00:15:42,900 --> 00:15:44,033
so it's a 
covered sugar,

430
00:15:44,033 --> 00:15:45,233
and you have 
the cream jug.

431
00:15:45,233 --> 00:15:46,433
And it's made by 
a gentleman

432
00:15:46,433 --> 00:15:47,900
by the name of 
William Thomson,

433
00:15:47,900 --> 00:15:49,366
who was based in New York

434
00:15:49,366 --> 00:15:52,666
and was active from 
around about 1810

435
00:15:52,666 --> 00:15:54,966
to the mid-1840s.

436
00:15:54,966 --> 00:15:56,966
And as you had said,

437
00:15:56,966 --> 00:15:57,966
your relative discovered 
what's now known

438
00:15:57,966 --> 00:15:59,433
as the South Pass. 
Mm-hmm.

439
00:15:59,433 --> 00:16:01,333
And it's an incredibly 
important pass.

440
00:16:01,333 --> 00:16:04,133
And he worked for the Pacific 
Fur Company at the time

441
00:16:04,133 --> 00:16:05,800
for John Jacob Astor.

442
00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:08,433
And what we love about 
this set

443
00:16:08,433 --> 00:16:11,766
is that it has all of the 
features

444
00:16:11,766 --> 00:16:14,033
which really commemorate 
the Pacific Northwest,

445
00:16:14,033 --> 00:16:16,733
primarily with the 
beaver-form finial at the top...

446
00:16:16,733 --> 00:16:18,300
Mm-hmm. 
...surrounded by 
the laurel leaves.

447
00:16:18,300 --> 00:16:21,066
And then this absolutely 
spectacular...

448
00:16:21,066 --> 00:16:22,366
I'd like to say it's 
perhaps probably

449
00:16:22,366 --> 00:16:24,666
a wild turkey 
or eagle-form spout. 
Mm-hmm.

450
00:16:24,666 --> 00:16:26,666
It's just really beautiful.

451
00:16:26,666 --> 00:16:27,766
We can tilt this back,

452
00:16:27,766 --> 00:16:30,200
and it says right here 
on the underside

453
00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:34,600
"Robert Stuart from 
John Jacob Astor, 1813."

454
00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,066
And buried beneath it is the 
maker's mark,

455
00:16:37,066 --> 00:16:39,500
which is slightly what we call 
effaced.

456
00:16:39,500 --> 00:16:41,400
You've got this beautiful 
lobed form,

457
00:16:41,400 --> 00:16:43,500
also, on both of 
these pots.

458
00:16:43,500 --> 00:16:45,600
You've got this wonderful 
shell casting

459
00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:46,733
at the base.

460
00:16:46,733 --> 00:16:49,233
All very, very typical 
for William Thomson.

461
00:16:49,233 --> 00:16:51,600
He has other pieces in 
museums and institutions,

462
00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:53,733
which, interestingly, 
feature

463
00:16:53,733 --> 00:16:55,833
other animals as finials, 
as well. 
Really?

464
00:16:55,833 --> 00:16:56,833
So, it's kind of 
his thing.

465
00:16:56,833 --> 00:16:58,100
For this beautiful 
silver set,

466
00:16:58,100 --> 00:17:00,433
for all three pieces, 
I would expect to place

467
00:17:00,433 --> 00:17:01,600
an auction estimate of

468
00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,033
$15,000 to $25,000 
on it. 
Wow!

469
00:17:05,033 --> 00:17:07,433
Wow, fantastic!

470
00:17:07,433 --> 00:17:08,600
That's great!

471
00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:10,433
I believe that 
insurance value

472
00:17:10,433 --> 00:17:11,433
is going to be 
probably closer

473
00:17:11,433 --> 00:17:13,300
to $40,000. 
Wow!

474
00:17:13,300 --> 00:17:15,900
If you had presented this 
to us today

475
00:17:15,900 --> 00:17:17,966
with, without 
the inscription,

476
00:17:17,966 --> 00:17:19,866
it's still a spectacular 
coffee service

477
00:17:19,866 --> 00:17:21,000
as a stand-alone.

478
00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:22,566
An estimate would probably 
be in the range

479
00:17:22,566 --> 00:17:24,900
of about $8,000 
to $12,000.

480
00:17:24,900 --> 00:17:27,700
I really expected it

481
00:17:27,700 --> 00:17:31,633
to just be worth 
the melt weight.

482
00:17:31,633 --> 00:17:33,333
♪ ♪

483
00:17:33,333 --> 00:17:36,966
PEÑA: 
The sunny Southwest was 
"Roadshow's" third tour stop.

484
00:17:36,966 --> 00:17:40,733
Santa Fe's Museum Hill, 
home to four world-class museums

485
00:17:40,733 --> 00:17:43,166
and the Santa Fe Botanical 
Gardens,

486
00:17:43,166 --> 00:17:46,300
was truly a hotspot for 
art and antiques.

487
00:17:46,300 --> 00:17:48,166
There's a little chip on 
the spout,

488
00:17:48,166 --> 00:17:51,566
which is the most 
vulnerable spot. 
Yes.

489
00:17:51,566 --> 00:17:53,633
WOMAN: 
The map belonged 
to my husband.

490
00:17:53,633 --> 00:17:56,266
He found it in a house 
in London

491
00:17:56,266 --> 00:17:59,366
that he and a friend 
were fixing up

492
00:17:59,366 --> 00:18:01,366
wrapped in a n, newspaper.

493
00:18:01,366 --> 00:18:03,333
Okay. 
And it was hidden in 
a, a compartment

494
00:18:03,333 --> 00:18:05,033
near a fireplace.

495
00:18:05,033 --> 00:18:07,500
He very carefully 
unwrapped it,

496
00:18:07,500 --> 00:18:09,600
and, and then we had it 
the whole time

497
00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:10,866
we were married.

498
00:18:10,866 --> 00:18:12,866
Oh, wow, so when did he find 
the map in the wall?

499
00:18:12,866 --> 00:18:14,000
I think he found it

500
00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,333
sometime at the end 
of the '50s...

501
00:18:16,333 --> 00:18:18,566
(gasps): 
Fantastic! 
...or the 1960s.

502
00:18:18,566 --> 00:18:21,433
On the embroidery, 
it says "Tottenham,"

503
00:18:21,433 --> 00:18:23,166
which is part of London,

504
00:18:23,166 --> 00:18:27,000
and apparently that was 
a, a very prosperous area

505
00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:29,200
that wa, had to do 
with trading.

506
00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:30,400
So what we have 
here is

507
00:18:30,400 --> 00:18:31,700
"A map of the world

508
00:18:31,700 --> 00:18:36,566
with the latest discoveries" 
by Jane Young, 1791.

509
00:18:36,566 --> 00:18:38,733
It's a sampler 
double hemisphere map,

510
00:18:38,733 --> 00:18:40,266
and the needlework

511
00:18:40,266 --> 00:18:42,966
is all hand-done.

512
00:18:42,966 --> 00:18:46,166
It is absolutely magnificent 
quality.

513
00:18:46,166 --> 00:18:48,500
Technically, 
as a sampler,

514
00:18:48,500 --> 00:18:50,400
it, it is very 
accomplished piece.

515
00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:52,900
And it's so hard to 
do embroidery

516
00:18:52,900 --> 00:18:55,166
in those tiny, tiny 
fine lines.

517
00:18:55,166 --> 00:18:56,566
There's no ink on 
this map,

518
00:18:56,566 --> 00:18:59,533
and that makes her 
a great artist.

519
00:18:59,533 --> 00:19:00,866
She's showing 
the world

520
00:19:00,866 --> 00:19:05,000
from the 16th century 
all the way up into

521
00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:06,666
possibly 1750?

522
00:19:06,666 --> 00:19:09,466
I wonder if she used 
several different maps

523
00:19:09,466 --> 00:19:11,133
to source the material,

524
00:19:11,133 --> 00:19:14,366
because you see many different 
time periods depicted.

525
00:19:14,366 --> 00:19:15,833
Geographically speaking,

526
00:19:15,833 --> 00:19:18,900
it's a British view 
of the world at

527
00:19:18,900 --> 00:19:20,833
the time, a, around 1740.

528
00:19:20,833 --> 00:19:23,633
So it's a, very much 
a colonial sentiment.

529
00:19:23,633 --> 00:19:26,300
You've got the 13 colonies 
in North America.

530
00:19:26,300 --> 00:19:28,566
You've got, 
all of West Africa's

531
00:19:28,566 --> 00:19:29,800
named Negroland.

532
00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,166
And so, it's a look back 
on what Britain thought

533
00:19:32,166 --> 00:19:33,933
of the world at the time.

534
00:19:33,933 --> 00:19:36,566
The tradition of geography 
embroidery

535
00:19:36,566 --> 00:19:39,766
started in England 
around 1770,

536
00:19:39,766 --> 00:19:42,800
and it became, uh, 
all the rage.

537
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,666
It was very fashionable 
for young women

538
00:19:44,666 --> 00:19:45,866
who were well-to-do

539
00:19:45,866 --> 00:19:49,233
to study geography 
through embroidery.

540
00:19:49,233 --> 00:19:51,833
It's the nicest-quality 
embroidery

541
00:19:51,833 --> 00:19:54,533
I've ever seen on 
a sampler,

542
00:19:54,533 --> 00:19:57,466
and that makes me think 
that it, it was a sampler

543
00:19:57,466 --> 00:19:59,566
that was maybe what 
we would call

544
00:19:59,566 --> 00:20:01,733
the mother map, 
or the, or the sample map

545
00:20:01,733 --> 00:20:03,766
that would have been used 
to make other maps?

546
00:20:03,766 --> 00:20:07,233
As this tradition continued 
all throughout England,

547
00:20:07,233 --> 00:20:09,400
people mostly did maps 
of England.

548
00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:13,466
Very few institutions have 
world maps, number one.

549
00:20:13,466 --> 00:20:15,066
And then number two,

550
00:20:15,066 --> 00:20:18,066
the world maps that 
I've seen have been silk.

551
00:20:18,066 --> 00:20:20,000
I believe this is, uh, 
possibly linen,

552
00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,300
and that's why it's survived 
so well.

553
00:20:22,300 --> 00:20:23,633
It's hard to put a value on it

554
00:20:23,633 --> 00:20:25,133
because there's not a lot 
of auction records.

555
00:20:25,133 --> 00:20:28,566
I would put a value on it 
in a retail setting

556
00:20:28,566 --> 00:20:32,600
between, uh, $7,500 
and $8,500.

557
00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,000
Oh, very good.

558
00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,533
♪ ♪

559
00:20:42,533 --> 00:20:45,166
It's a World War II 
Royal Air Force

560
00:20:45,166 --> 00:20:47,366
air chief marshal's uniform.

561
00:20:47,366 --> 00:20:50,466
I left the pants in the car

562
00:20:50,466 --> 00:20:52,800
'cause it made it so heavy, 
'cause this is all wool,

563
00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:55,066
and it's, it's, like, 
ten pounds of uniform.

564
00:20:55,066 --> 00:20:58,900
♪ ♪

565
00:20:58,900 --> 00:21:01,266
We were due 
some money,

566
00:21:01,266 --> 00:21:02,866
and they couldn't pay.

567
00:21:02,866 --> 00:21:06,133
So, they offered us stock 
in the company

568
00:21:06,133 --> 00:21:08,933
or jewelry, 
and we took the jewelry.

569
00:21:08,933 --> 00:21:11,666
It's probably from the '70s, 
probably Navajo-made,

570
00:21:11,666 --> 00:21:12,933
and probably 
from my hometown

571
00:21:12,933 --> 00:21:14,366
of Gallup, New Mexico.

572
00:21:14,366 --> 00:21:16,066
There was a period in 
the '70s

573
00:21:16,066 --> 00:21:18,833
where people wanted 
really big,

574
00:21:18,833 --> 00:21:20,266
ostentatious jewelry.

575
00:21:20,266 --> 00:21:23,366
It was a trend of 
its time.

576
00:21:23,366 --> 00:21:25,200
Not as popular today.

577
00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,700
You can see that 
the, the beads,

578
00:21:26,700 --> 00:21:28,466
if you look closely,

579
00:21:28,466 --> 00:21:29,833
those are actually 
machine-made beads.

580
00:21:29,833 --> 00:21:33,400
And the quality of 
the turquoise isn't great.

581
00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,133
It would probably maybe 
bring a value of around

582
00:21:36,133 --> 00:21:38,600
$1,500 to $2,500.

583
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,900
But it's just a 
wonderful example

584
00:21:40,900 --> 00:21:43,233
of the style and trends

585
00:21:43,233 --> 00:21:47,800
and how things change 
in Indian jewelry.

586
00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:49,400
WOMAN: 
He was given to my grandmother

587
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,366
by a friend of her 
family's,

588
00:21:51,366 --> 00:21:52,966
and she used him

589
00:21:52,966 --> 00:21:55,266
in lots of adventures. 
Uh, lots of adventures.

590
00:21:55,266 --> 00:21:57,166
What do you mean by 
a lot of adventures?

591
00:21:57,166 --> 00:21:58,533
Uh, when they lived in 
New York City,

592
00:21:58,533 --> 00:22:00,233
she would wait until 
an older woman

593
00:22:00,233 --> 00:22:01,500
walked by on the 
sidewalk

594
00:22:01,500 --> 00:22:03,200
and throw him out 
the window

595
00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,766
and yell, "My baby! 
My baby!" 
(laughs): "My baby!" Oh...

596
00:22:06,766 --> 00:22:07,866
It was a terrible thing. 
(laughs)

597
00:22:07,866 --> 00:22:09,700
What you brought today 
is a doll

598
00:22:09,700 --> 00:22:11,400
made by Martha Chase.

599
00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:14,133
She lived in Pawtucket, 
Rhode Island.

600
00:22:14,133 --> 00:22:17,333
She started making dolls 
in 1889

601
00:22:17,333 --> 00:22:19,666
and made dolls for 
about 30 years.

602
00:22:19,666 --> 00:22:22,933
This doll probably dates 
to about 1915.

603
00:22:22,933 --> 00:22:25,066
She also made 
specialty dolls like

604
00:22:25,066 --> 00:22:26,266
Alice in Wonderland.

605
00:22:26,266 --> 00:22:28,333
She made a George Washington. 
Mm!

606
00:22:28,333 --> 00:22:30,833
But the doll you brought is very 
unusual

607
00:22:30,833 --> 00:22:32,766
because of the size. 
Uh-huh.

608
00:22:32,766 --> 00:22:34,100
It's 32 inches.

609
00:22:34,100 --> 00:22:36,233
On today's market, 
it would probably sell

610
00:22:36,233 --> 00:22:38,900
between $900 and $1,000, 
retail.

611
00:22:38,900 --> 00:22:40,866
Oh, okay!

612
00:22:40,866 --> 00:22:43,566
So I need to keep him 
away from my dog. 
(laughs): Right.

613
00:22:43,566 --> 00:22:45,900
Right, and take good care 
of him.

614
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,266
WOMAN: 
It was given to my mother 
in the late '60s

615
00:22:55,266 --> 00:22:56,833
by my Uncle Henry. 
Mm-hmm.

616
00:22:56,833 --> 00:22:59,233
We had it in our lovely 
little kitchen

617
00:22:59,233 --> 00:23:00,733
in Philadelphia.

618
00:23:00,733 --> 00:23:02,633
We had two others,

619
00:23:02,633 --> 00:23:04,133
and we loved sitting 
on them

620
00:23:04,133 --> 00:23:06,266
having breakfast in 
the morning.

621
00:23:06,266 --> 00:23:08,400
It's something 
I've always loved.

622
00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:13,333
And so, when my mother 
died in 2013,

623
00:23:13,333 --> 00:23:15,133
we all got an 
opportunity

624
00:23:15,133 --> 00:23:16,366
to choose things,

625
00:23:16,366 --> 00:23:18,566
and this is one of 
the things I wanted.

626
00:23:18,566 --> 00:23:20,400
So... 
Well, you are a 
good chooser,

627
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:21,466
I'll tell you. 
Okay.

628
00:23:21,466 --> 00:23:23,200
This is a great piece 
of furniture

629
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,266
made by my very favorite 
furniture maker,

630
00:23:25,266 --> 00:23:26,566
Wharton Esherick.

631
00:23:26,566 --> 00:23:28,500
And he lived in Paoli, 
Pennsylvania. 
Yes.

632
00:23:28,500 --> 00:23:30,666
Not far 
from Philadelphia.

633
00:23:30,666 --> 00:23:32,033
And he actually, as far as I'm 
concerned

634
00:23:32,033 --> 00:23:33,566
and a lot of other people 
are concerned,

635
00:23:33,566 --> 00:23:36,000
started the Studio Furniture 
Movement. 
Mm.

636
00:23:36,000 --> 00:23:38,300
And all kinds of famous people

637
00:23:38,300 --> 00:23:40,766
came out of the Studio 
Furniture Movement:

638
00:23:40,766 --> 00:23:43,400
George Nakashima, 
Paul Evans,

639
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:44,800
Wendell Castle.

640
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,100
Those are just a few. 
Okay.

641
00:23:46,100 --> 00:23:47,166
But those are 
really big names... 
Okay.

642
00:23:47,166 --> 00:23:48,466
...in the world of 
furniture.

643
00:23:48,466 --> 00:23:49,500
And Mr. Esherick

644
00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:51,566
started 
the whole thing. 
Wow.

645
00:23:51,566 --> 00:23:53,900
And he started 
about 1920.

646
00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:56,000
He was a 
trained artist. 
Wow.

647
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:57,766
He, he was a, a fine artist. 
Uh-huh.

648
00:23:57,766 --> 00:24:00,266
And he never made much 
of a living as a fine artist.

649
00:24:00,266 --> 00:24:02,433
I think he was sort of 
a starving fine artist.

650
00:24:02,433 --> 00:24:04,200
Oh. 
And he, he was a...

651
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:05,400
He was certainly 
an adventurer,

652
00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:06,733
and he had 
an interesting life.

653
00:24:06,733 --> 00:24:08,933
And he wandered down 
to Alabama,

654
00:24:08,933 --> 00:24:11,233
and while he was there, 
he had to make furniture.

655
00:24:11,233 --> 00:24:13,600
Legend has it he was too poor 
to buy his own,

656
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:14,933
so he had to make it. 
(moans sadly)

657
00:24:14,933 --> 00:24:16,866
And that notion of 
beauty and furniture,

658
00:24:16,866 --> 00:24:19,500
and kind of commingling 
the two, came out.

659
00:24:19,500 --> 00:24:21,466
He ends up moving 
to Paoli. 
Okay.

660
00:24:21,466 --> 00:24:22,900
Paoli, Pennsylvania, 
out in the Main Line,

661
00:24:22,900 --> 00:24:24,233
and sets up 
a little shop.

662
00:24:24,233 --> 00:24:25,233
He's doing pretty 
good business.

663
00:24:25,233 --> 00:24:26,333
He's doing business

664
00:24:26,333 --> 00:24:27,866
with a lot of 
very wealthy folks

665
00:24:27,866 --> 00:24:29,566
all through Philadelphia.

666
00:24:29,566 --> 00:24:32,333
But there are slow times, 
and he needs a few bucks.

667
00:24:32,333 --> 00:24:33,333
So what he does is,

668
00:24:33,333 --> 00:24:35,000
he starts making 
these stools.

669
00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,100
No kidding.

670
00:24:36,100 --> 00:24:37,633
And he would sell 
them locally.

671
00:24:37,633 --> 00:24:39,133
I've seen dozens 
of them.

672
00:24:39,133 --> 00:24:40,966
Oh. 
And no two that 
I've ever seen

673
00:24:40,966 --> 00:24:42,900
are remotely similar.

674
00:24:42,900 --> 00:24:45,533
All the tops are different, 
they're different heights.

675
00:24:45,533 --> 00:24:47,533
The legs are different shapes, 
the angles are different. 
Mm-hmm.

676
00:24:47,533 --> 00:24:49,866
And it was both functional 
and it was beautiful.

677
00:24:49,866 --> 00:24:51,233
I mean, look at this piece. 
I know.

678
00:24:51,233 --> 00:24:53,166
Look, look at the curves 
and the angles. 
Yup.

679
00:24:53,166 --> 00:24:54,333
And the sloping. 
Yup.

680
00:24:54,333 --> 00:24:56,300
It's a stool, 
it was a simple stool.

681
00:24:56,300 --> 00:24:57,666
Should we take a look 
at the top?

682
00:24:57,666 --> 00:24:59,933
Absolutely, it's one of 
my favorite parts.

683
00:24:59,933 --> 00:25:03,600
I like to look at it 
as, like, a cow face.

684
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,466
Yeah. 
Well, it's very biomorphic, 
that's for sure.

685
00:25:06,466 --> 00:25:07,766
As far as what 
kind of wood this is,

686
00:25:07,766 --> 00:25:09,466
the base is 
made out of oak.

687
00:25:09,466 --> 00:25:11,000
All the stools I've 
ever seen

688
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:12,733
had oak bases. 
Okay.

689
00:25:12,733 --> 00:25:15,633
The, this top, 
I'm not 100% sure what it is.

690
00:25:15,633 --> 00:25:17,633
It was probably 
some scrap

691
00:25:17,633 --> 00:25:18,933
from something else 
he was building.

692
00:25:18,933 --> 00:25:20,233
It could have been. 
Then, it doesn't look to me

693
00:25:20,233 --> 00:25:21,900
like anyone's put 
any love into this

694
00:25:21,900 --> 00:25:23,300
since it was probably 
produced. 
Right.

695
00:25:23,300 --> 00:25:25,400
One of the great things 
about Esherick's work is,

696
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,200
is that you could 
clean this up.

697
00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:28,633
Unlike a lot 
of period furniture,

698
00:25:28,633 --> 00:25:29,800
where people say, 
"Oh, don't touch it." 
Ah.

699
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:30,800
"Whatever you do, 
don't touch it,

700
00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:31,800
you'll kill the value." 
Right.

701
00:25:31,800 --> 00:25:32,833
That's not true

702
00:25:32,833 --> 00:25:33,833
with Esherick's furniture. 
Okay.

703
00:25:33,833 --> 00:25:35,366
The other thing 
I love about

704
00:25:35,366 --> 00:25:37,000
Wharton Esherick's stuff 
is his signature.

705
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,000
I love it, too. 
And this piece is 
definitely signed.

706
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:39,000
Totally.

707
00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:40,766
There we go. 
So, yes.

708
00:25:40,766 --> 00:25:42,866
"W.E." for 
Wharton Esherick,

709
00:25:42,866 --> 00:25:44,733
1966.

710
00:25:44,733 --> 00:25:47,266
Not all Wharton Esherick 
furniture is signed, either.

711
00:25:47,266 --> 00:25:49,666
Most of it is, 
a lot of it is.

712
00:25:49,666 --> 00:25:51,966
Do you have any idea of 
what this stool might be worth?

713
00:25:51,966 --> 00:25:55,233
I'm thinking 
about $8,000 to $10,000.

714
00:25:55,233 --> 00:25:56,500
$8,000 to $10,000? 
Yeah.

715
00:25:56,500 --> 00:25:58,733
Well, that, that is, 
at auction today,

716
00:25:58,733 --> 00:26:00,200
that's just about 
right. 
Okay.

717
00:26:00,200 --> 00:26:01,366
Exactly to, 
to the dollar. 
Okay, all right.

718
00:26:01,366 --> 00:26:02,366
It's right. 
All right.

719
00:26:02,366 --> 00:26:03,500
Uh, some sold last week

720
00:26:03,500 --> 00:26:05,400
for a little bit 
above that. 
Okay.

721
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,733
Um, and some sell for 
a little bit below.

722
00:26:06,733 --> 00:26:08,966
But $8,000 to $10,000 
is right on. 
Well, good.

723
00:26:08,966 --> 00:26:10,966
So between you and 
your siblings,

724
00:26:10,966 --> 00:26:13,733
you have, uh, $30,000 in 
Wharton Esherick stools. 
(laughing): Yes.

725
00:26:13,733 --> 00:26:16,433
Yes, and we love them all.

726
00:26:16,433 --> 00:26:19,733
They usually sold between 
$40, $50, $60 apiece, so... 
Okay, all right.

727
00:26:19,733 --> 00:26:21,033
Okay, wow.

728
00:26:21,033 --> 00:26:24,100
Your uncle... 
It's really 
appreciated, then.

729
00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:26,166
WOMAN: 
The clock was 
given by my English

730
00:26:26,166 --> 00:26:28,866
great-great-great-great- 
grandfather

731
00:26:28,866 --> 00:26:33,066
to his daughter Sarah 
in 1784.

732
00:26:33,066 --> 00:26:36,566
It went to one of the women 
in each generation.

733
00:26:36,566 --> 00:26:38,966
This clock was made by Thomas 
Wagstaffe.

734
00:26:38,966 --> 00:26:42,400
He was born in 1724 and he died 
in 1802.

735
00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,333
He was from 
Oxfordshire, England,

736
00:26:45,333 --> 00:26:47,566
and he was a Quaker

737
00:26:47,566 --> 00:26:50,033
and a fantastic 
English clockmaker.

738
00:26:50,033 --> 00:26:51,566
One of the best, 
really.

739
00:26:51,566 --> 00:26:54,733
He's known as a very large man 
and very personable,

740
00:26:54,733 --> 00:26:56,033
and had a lot 
of acquaintances

741
00:26:56,033 --> 00:26:58,233
and a diligent worker,

742
00:26:58,233 --> 00:26:59,966
and obviously very 
skilled.

743
00:26:59,966 --> 00:27:02,300
But this is a very 
special bracket clock.

744
00:27:02,300 --> 00:27:03,366
It's musical,

745
00:27:03,366 --> 00:27:05,666
and it was made circa 1770.

746
00:27:05,666 --> 00:27:07,433
It's, has a great dial.

747
00:27:07,433 --> 00:27:11,066
It's signed here, 
"Thomas Wagstaffe, London."

748
00:27:11,066 --> 00:27:12,233
It has a subsidiary dial

749
00:27:12,233 --> 00:27:14,366
for shutting off 
the strike.

750
00:27:14,366 --> 00:27:15,533
Mm-hmm. 
The chime.

751
00:27:15,533 --> 00:27:18,133
And then this is 
the four tunes select.

752
00:27:18,133 --> 00:27:20,300
The tunes are often

753
00:27:20,300 --> 00:27:22,700
the personal selection 
of your relative.

754
00:27:22,700 --> 00:27:24,900
They would be able 
to select a tune

755
00:27:24,900 --> 00:27:26,333
on their musical taste.

756
00:27:26,333 --> 00:27:28,300
So these might 
very well be tunes

757
00:27:28,300 --> 00:27:29,700
that were dear 
to them.

758
00:27:29,700 --> 00:27:31,733
I'll show you the back,

759
00:27:31,733 --> 00:27:33,066
which is 
just fantastic.

760
00:27:33,066 --> 00:27:35,433
It has its original 
cow-tail pendulum.

761
00:27:35,433 --> 00:27:39,466
It's got these foliate 
engravings throughout.

762
00:27:39,466 --> 00:27:41,566
It plays on a nest of bells.

763
00:27:41,566 --> 00:27:42,566
Everything about it's 
original.

764
00:27:42,566 --> 00:27:44,133
The condition is fantastic.

765
00:27:44,133 --> 00:27:48,166
Musical clocks like this 
are fairly rare

766
00:27:48,166 --> 00:27:50,066
and very sought-after, 
because anything

767
00:27:50,066 --> 00:27:52,700
with complications 
is very desirable.

768
00:27:52,700 --> 00:27:56,100
This clock, the retail value 
would certainly be

769
00:27:56,100 --> 00:27:59,733
around $20,000 
to $25,000.

770
00:27:59,733 --> 00:28:01,833
Now I've got to be 
brave enough

771
00:28:01,833 --> 00:28:04,433
to actually wind it and 
get to listen to it again.

772
00:28:04,433 --> 00:28:06,433
Well, I'll play it.

773
00:28:08,433 --> 00:28:12,700
(chiming)

774
00:28:12,700 --> 00:28:17,666
(chimes playing tune)

775
00:28:17,666 --> 00:28:19,966
It's beautiful. 
Yeah.

776
00:28:19,966 --> 00:28:22,266
♪ ♪

777
00:28:22,266 --> 00:28:25,666
PEÑA: 
Filoli Historic House and Garden 
was the scenic backdrop

778
00:28:25,666 --> 00:28:29,166
for the "Roadshow" version 
of Show and Tell.

779
00:28:29,166 --> 00:28:30,566
As you can see,

780
00:28:30,566 --> 00:28:34,066
it's just a gorgeous example 
of Americana.

781
00:28:34,066 --> 00:28:36,366
PEÑA: 
Of course, with the added bonus 
of a free appraisal

782
00:28:36,366 --> 00:28:38,066
by a "Roadshow" expert.

783
00:28:38,066 --> 00:28:41,200
These would have been, 
like, late 19th century.

784
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:45,066
WOMAN: 
It belonged to my 
great-grandmother,

785
00:28:45,066 --> 00:28:47,900
who's from Poland, in a small 
town

786
00:28:47,900 --> 00:28:50,533
outside of Kraków, it's called 
Bochnia.

787
00:28:50,533 --> 00:28:51,900
Mm-hmm.

788
00:28:51,900 --> 00:28:54,800
And she passed it down 
to her daughter... 
Mm-hmm.

789
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,800
...my grandmother, 
and then my grandmother

790
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,066
passed it to her daughter,

791
00:28:59,066 --> 00:29:01,900
and then my aunt 
passed it to me... 
Mm-hmm.

792
00:29:01,900 --> 00:29:03,300
...when I was much younger.

793
00:29:03,300 --> 00:29:05,933
I want to say 
I was in my mid-20s?

794
00:29:05,933 --> 00:29:06,933
Okay, oh, great. 
Yeah.

795
00:29:06,933 --> 00:29:07,933
Oh, great. 
Yeah.

796
00:29:07,933 --> 00:29:09,266
Do you wear it often?

797
00:29:09,266 --> 00:29:10,766
Not often. 
Mm-hmm.

798
00:29:10,766 --> 00:29:12,600
But I do wear it 
on special occasions. 
Mm-hmm.

799
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:15,533
Well, it's a, it's a beautiful 
necklace,

800
00:29:15,533 --> 00:29:18,100
and it, it dates to about 1905.

801
00:29:18,100 --> 00:29:20,633
Platinum had been 
an industrial metal,

802
00:29:20,633 --> 00:29:22,833
and when jewelry artists 
worked with it,

803
00:29:22,833 --> 00:29:25,300
they realized it was 
much stronger than gold.

804
00:29:25,300 --> 00:29:26,700
Mm-hmm. 
So you could use

805
00:29:26,700 --> 00:29:30,800
less of it to hold the stones 
and to make the designs.

806
00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:34,966
So they were able to make these 
light, beautiful designs.

807
00:29:34,966 --> 00:29:37,433
Mm-hmm. 
And this was called 
the garland style.

808
00:29:37,433 --> 00:29:39,900
And it's pretty obvious why 
it was called the garland style.

809
00:29:39,900 --> 00:29:41,466
(chuckling): 
Yes.

810
00:29:41,466 --> 00:29:42,833
There are 
garlands of flowers. 
Mm-hmm.

811
00:29:42,833 --> 00:29:44,533
You'll also see 
there's bows.

812
00:29:44,533 --> 00:29:46,300
They were drawing 
a lot of inspiration

813
00:29:46,300 --> 00:29:50,000
from this 18th-century 
Marie Antoinette glamour.

814
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:52,933
Mm-hmm. 
And the women at, 
at this time

815
00:29:52,933 --> 00:29:55,266
were wearing 
a lot of pale colors,

816
00:29:55,266 --> 00:29:57,166
a lot of white silk and lace.

817
00:29:57,166 --> 00:29:59,433
So they loved 
the, the white metal,

818
00:29:59,433 --> 00:30:03,400
and most of the jewelry was in 
diamonds or pearls

819
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,533
to, to go with the outfits. 
Mm-hmm.

820
00:30:05,533 --> 00:30:07,500
A couple of things 
I especially

821
00:30:07,500 --> 00:30:08,966
love about this necklace.

822
00:30:08,966 --> 00:30:11,700
First, 
it's with its original box.

823
00:30:11,700 --> 00:30:14,033
And then one 
of the most interesting things

824
00:30:14,033 --> 00:30:15,966
is the back of the piece, 
and I often say, if you

825
00:30:15,966 --> 00:30:17,800
want to really know 
about a piece of jewelry,

826
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,833
look at the back. 
Absolutely, yeah.

827
00:30:19,833 --> 00:30:22,566
So you can see that this piece

828
00:30:22,566 --> 00:30:24,966
was originally designed 
to be worn two ways.

829
00:30:24,966 --> 00:30:26,466
There are hooks here... 
Mm-hmm.

830
00:30:26,466 --> 00:30:29,833
...to attach the chain, so you 
could take away the chain.

831
00:30:29,833 --> 00:30:32,133
If you look at 
the center here in gold,

832
00:30:32,133 --> 00:30:33,866
it's for a screw.

833
00:30:33,866 --> 00:30:37,066
So there would have been 
a brooch attachment

834
00:30:37,066 --> 00:30:39,033
that would have 
screwed in there. 
I see.

835
00:30:39,033 --> 00:30:40,566
And if you ever have a piece

836
00:30:40,566 --> 00:30:42,900
of antique jewelry 
in the original box,

837
00:30:42,900 --> 00:30:44,200
you always lift up

838
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,833
the velvet 
and look underneath. 
Mm-hmm.

839
00:30:46,833 --> 00:30:49,433
'Cause that's usually 
where they're stored.

840
00:30:49,433 --> 00:30:52,366
So at some point 
in the past

841
00:30:52,366 --> 00:30:53,400
120 years... 
Mm-hmm.

842
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:54,933
...the brooch fitting went away.

843
00:30:54,933 --> 00:30:56,933
It's set throughout 
with diamonds.

844
00:30:56,933 --> 00:31:00,566
There's a mix of old-European- 
cuts and single-cuts,

845
00:31:00,566 --> 00:31:03,833
and you have about 
six carats of weight there. 
Hm!

846
00:31:03,833 --> 00:31:05,700
So it's a pretty 
substantial necklace. 
Yeah.

847
00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:07,833
Now, it isn't marked at all,

848
00:31:07,833 --> 00:31:10,800
and the box has no markings 
on it at all. 
Mm-hmm.

849
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:14,300
So we can't tell exactly 
where it was made.

850
00:31:14,300 --> 00:31:18,300
But I'm going to guess it was 
made in Continental Europe.

851
00:31:18,300 --> 00:31:19,633
If I were to recommend

852
00:31:19,633 --> 00:31:21,200
an insurance value 
for this... 
Mm-hmm.

853
00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:22,933
...I would recommend 
that you insure it

854
00:31:22,933 --> 00:31:24,433
at about $40,000. 
Wow.

855
00:31:24,433 --> 00:31:27,200
If it had the original 
brooch attachment,

856
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,600
I'd probably recommend 
you insure it at $45,000.

857
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:31,033
Mm-hmm.

858
00:31:31,033 --> 00:31:33,733
Well, thank you so much. 
Mm-hmm.

859
00:31:33,733 --> 00:31:35,766
I, I really appreciate it.

860
00:31:41,766 --> 00:31:43,400
This is the original

861
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:47,700
type on the cover of the 
"Hotel California" album cover.

862
00:31:47,700 --> 00:31:49,000
The cover is a photograph,

863
00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,400
but then there's this neon type 
going across it,

864
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:52,866
and my dad painted it.

865
00:31:52,866 --> 00:31:56,400
He's an illustrator, 
so he did a lot of album covers

866
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,366
and movie posters.

867
00:31:58,366 --> 00:32:01,933
This is a powder horn 
from 1777.

868
00:32:01,933 --> 00:32:02,933
This belonged to,

869
00:32:02,933 --> 00:32:05,066
I'm not sure 
how many greats...

870
00:32:05,066 --> 00:32:06,800
Right. 
(laughs): 
...going back grandfathers.

871
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,533
1777, the Revolutionary War 
was going at full tilt.

872
00:32:11,533 --> 00:32:12,866
You would have needed this.

873
00:32:12,866 --> 00:32:14,900
Your, the, your life depended 
on having your,

874
00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:16,400
keeping your, your powder 
dry.

875
00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,900
An auction estimate on this 
would be, uh, about

876
00:32:19,900 --> 00:32:21,666
$3,000 to $5,000. 
Mm, wow.

877
00:32:21,666 --> 00:32:24,066
And you can insure 
something like this...

878
00:32:24,066 --> 00:32:25,066
Yes, yes. 
...for upwards of $7,000.

879
00:32:25,066 --> 00:32:26,066
Okay.

880
00:32:26,066 --> 00:32:28,966
Great, good.

881
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:39,500
This is my grandfather's 
photographs from the 1920s.

882
00:32:39,500 --> 00:32:42,366
He had a shop on 57 Page 
in San Francisco

883
00:32:42,366 --> 00:32:46,133
and at 1550, 
um, on Market earlier.

884
00:32:46,133 --> 00:32:48,766
He handled high-end 
Aces and Indians. 
Motorcycles.

885
00:32:48,766 --> 00:32:51,700
And, um, uh, 
Dudley Perkins has on,

886
00:32:51,700 --> 00:32:53,833
across the street on Page,

887
00:32:53,833 --> 00:32:56,166
and he handled Harleys.

888
00:32:56,166 --> 00:32:59,066
This whole archive 
is 138 photographs.

889
00:32:59,066 --> 00:33:01,800
A lot of it has been 
in my uncle's possession

890
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:03,533
up until a year 
and a half ago. 
Mm-hmm.

891
00:33:03,533 --> 00:33:06,633
And then he died 
earlier this year.

892
00:33:06,633 --> 00:33:09,466
And he gave them to me 
because I'm the one that knows

893
00:33:09,466 --> 00:33:12,133
about archives and, and 
working in the art business.

894
00:33:12,133 --> 00:33:13,500
Great.

895
00:33:13,500 --> 00:33:15,400
So what do you know about 
your grandfather's interest

896
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,033
in motorcycles?

897
00:33:17,033 --> 00:33:20,100
It was a time of rebellion 
against the middle class. 
Mm.

898
00:33:20,100 --> 00:33:22,033
And my great-grandfather was

899
00:33:22,033 --> 00:33:24,766
Oakland Feed and Grain Company. 
Mm-hmm.

900
00:33:24,766 --> 00:33:27,700
And had a lot of, made a lot of 
money that way, so...

901
00:33:27,700 --> 00:33:29,400
(chuckles) 
Okay, interesting.

902
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:30,766
Uh, he rebelled 
against that... 
Wow.

903
00:33:30,766 --> 00:33:32,466
...and became the 
black sheep of the family.

904
00:33:32,466 --> 00:33:34,400
(laughs) 
Wow.

905
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,366
The motorcycle was invented 
in the end of the 19th century,

906
00:33:37,366 --> 00:33:41,133
and the first motorcycle club 
in the United States

907
00:33:41,133 --> 00:33:43,666
was in 1903 
in Yonkers, New York.

908
00:33:43,666 --> 00:33:45,700
But San Francisco, 
your grandfather's club,

909
00:33:45,700 --> 00:33:47,866
was immediately 
after that, in 1904. 
Uh-huh.

910
00:33:47,866 --> 00:33:50,666
Wow. 
So it was one of 
the first clubs

911
00:33:50,666 --> 00:33:53,633
in the United States, 
and an area where the motorcycle

912
00:33:53,633 --> 00:33:55,900
culture just seems to 
have really taken hold.

913
00:33:55,900 --> 00:33:57,600
Oakland was soon after that.

914
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:58,800
And these photographs

915
00:33:58,800 --> 00:34:03,433
really represent those 
early motorcycle clubs.

916
00:34:03,433 --> 00:34:05,200
The clubs would gather, there'd 
be races,

917
00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,333
hill-climbing, uh, competitions.

918
00:34:08,333 --> 00:34:12,600
And is the baseline 
for what we think of

919
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:13,866
as motorcycle culture today,

920
00:34:13,866 --> 00:34:16,733
which is club-oriented, 
community-oriented, um...

921
00:34:16,733 --> 00:34:18,000
Leather jackets 
and jeans and T-shirts.

922
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:19,166
Yeah. (chuckles) 
Exactly.

923
00:34:19,166 --> 00:34:20,200
And that's here.

924
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:21,733
We see that in these images.

925
00:34:21,733 --> 00:34:24,333
And what I find 
really fascinating

926
00:34:24,333 --> 00:34:28,833
in each of these images, 
which represent gatherings

927
00:34:28,833 --> 00:34:33,666
of the various motorcycle clubs 
in California in the 1920s,

928
00:34:33,666 --> 00:34:35,500
is that there is 
women, as well. 
Oh, yes.

929
00:34:35,500 --> 00:34:37,266
Women were just beginning 
to be able to vote.

930
00:34:37,266 --> 00:34:40,466
I think San Francisco 
Motorcycle Club admitted women

931
00:34:40,466 --> 00:34:41,833
before they could vote,

932
00:34:41,833 --> 00:34:44,866
and it was the first club 
to do so in the United States,

933
00:34:44,866 --> 00:34:46,666
which I think is amazing.

934
00:34:46,666 --> 00:34:49,200
And what can you tell me 
about this photograph here?

935
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:52,566
That is the front of 
the Page store, 57 Page.

936
00:34:52,566 --> 00:34:53,800
Mm-hmm.

937
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,433
My grandfather's on the, 
on the right.

938
00:34:55,433 --> 00:34:57,266
So that's his storefront.

939
00:34:57,266 --> 00:34:59,200
And he's on an 
Indian motorcycle?

940
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,733
Right.

941
00:35:00,733 --> 00:35:03,233
Uh, which is one of the brands 
that he specialized in,

942
00:35:03,233 --> 00:35:07,433
wearing the San Francisco 
Motor Club sweater and a tie.

943
00:35:07,433 --> 00:35:09,300
(laughing): 
And a tie. 
(laughs)

944
00:35:09,300 --> 00:35:11,766
This is part of a 
much larger archive.

945
00:35:11,766 --> 00:35:13,466
I'll be giving you 
a value for what we have

946
00:35:13,466 --> 00:35:14,766
on the table here today. 
Okay.

947
00:35:14,766 --> 00:35:16,233
At auction, I would value

948
00:35:16,233 --> 00:35:18,500
each of these panoramas

949
00:35:18,500 --> 00:35:20,966
between $2,000 
and $3,000.

950
00:35:20,966 --> 00:35:24,433
I would value this 
smaller photograph

951
00:35:24,433 --> 00:35:26,633
between $200 and $300.

952
00:35:26,633 --> 00:35:28,933
We're looking at 
a total value at auction

953
00:35:28,933 --> 00:35:30,966
between $4,200 
and $6,300 at auction.

954
00:35:30,966 --> 00:35:32,000
Great.

955
00:35:40,333 --> 00:35:43,600
WOMAN: 
This is a painting that 
my grandfather purchased.

956
00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,633
It was passed down 
to my father

957
00:35:45,633 --> 00:35:47,800
and then it's been 
passed down to me.

958
00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:53,200
I know that Percy Gray 
is a Californian watercolorist.

959
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,166
I know he painted

960
00:35:55,166 --> 00:35:57,066
in the '20s and '30s.

961
00:35:57,066 --> 00:35:59,866
It's signed right here 
and dated 1930. 
Mm-hmm.

962
00:35:59,866 --> 00:36:01,700
Do you think your grandfather 
purchased it

963
00:36:01,700 --> 00:36:04,166
around 1930? 
I think so.

964
00:36:04,166 --> 00:36:05,933
Do you know where 
he purchased it?

965
00:36:05,933 --> 00:36:07,733
Well, there's a sticker 
on the back

966
00:36:07,733 --> 00:36:09,466
that says 
"Gump's, San Francisco."

967
00:36:09,466 --> 00:36:14,000
So I'm assuming, uh, 
that's... 
That is a likely source,

968
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:17,066
because Gray did sell 
his work through Gump's. 
Mm-hmm.

969
00:36:17,066 --> 00:36:18,833
Percy Gray, whose official name

970
00:36:18,833 --> 00:36:20,833
is Henry Percy Gray,

971
00:36:20,833 --> 00:36:24,000
was born in 1869 in San 
Francisco.

972
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,866
His father had 
immigrated from England.

973
00:36:26,866 --> 00:36:28,766
But what's interesting 
was that there were about

974
00:36:28,766 --> 00:36:31,200
12 family members 
that were artists.

975
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:34,133
He had a childhood illness, 
and at that time,

976
00:36:34,133 --> 00:36:36,433
his brother gave him 
some art supplies.

977
00:36:36,433 --> 00:36:38,800
And that was when 
he discovered that he had

978
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,233
a real talent for art 
and wanted to pursue it. 
Mm-hmm-- oh!

979
00:36:41,233 --> 00:36:43,766
He s, went to art school 
in San Francisco,

980
00:36:43,766 --> 00:36:46,033
but then, by 1895,

981
00:36:46,033 --> 00:36:48,366
he was working for 
a newspaper in New York.

982
00:36:48,366 --> 00:36:50,733
But he continued to study 
in the evenings

983
00:36:50,733 --> 00:36:52,866
with William Merritt Chase,

984
00:36:52,866 --> 00:36:54,833
who was a premier teacher 
of American artists.

985
00:36:54,833 --> 00:36:57,300
But in 1906, 
he was sent back out

986
00:36:57,300 --> 00:36:59,866
to San Francisco 
to cover the earthquake. 
Right.

987
00:36:59,866 --> 00:37:03,700
And at that point, he decided 
to stay in his hometown.

988
00:37:03,700 --> 00:37:05,033
At one point, he developed

989
00:37:05,033 --> 00:37:08,600
an allergy to oil paint. 
Oh!

990
00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,300
And that was when he changed 
to using watercolor,

991
00:37:11,300 --> 00:37:12,666
for which he is well-known. 
Mm-hmm.

992
00:37:12,666 --> 00:37:15,633
When he used watercolor, 
one thing he did was

993
00:37:15,633 --> 00:37:19,333
apply the color quite densely 
so you don't automatically

994
00:37:19,333 --> 00:37:22,033
have that initial reaction 
that it's a watercolor.

995
00:37:22,033 --> 00:37:23,266
He really is

996
00:37:23,266 --> 00:37:25,400
one of the most successful 
and well-known

997
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,866
landscape artists in California.

998
00:37:27,866 --> 00:37:30,266
And your picture 
shows some of the

999
00:37:30,266 --> 00:37:33,066
trademark subject matter 
that he revisits

1000
00:37:33,066 --> 00:37:34,333
over and over again. 
Mm-hmm.

1001
00:37:34,333 --> 00:37:38,766
The lupine and the 
eucalyptus trees.

1002
00:37:38,766 --> 00:37:41,766
He also tended to use 
a kind of muted palette

1003
00:37:41,766 --> 00:37:45,666
with mainly greens, 
browns, and grays.

1004
00:37:45,666 --> 00:37:48,066
In his early work, he was 
influenced by Impressionism,

1005
00:37:48,066 --> 00:37:50,100
but when he got into 
his mature phase,

1006
00:37:50,100 --> 00:37:53,200
he was really more influenced 
by the Barbizon School

1007
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:54,633
and Tonalism... 
Oh, yes.

1008
00:37:54,633 --> 00:37:56,333
...which are 
very muted palettes.

1009
00:37:56,333 --> 00:37:59,233
(chuckling): 
He actually was also 
very conservative,

1010
00:37:59,233 --> 00:38:02,666
and he h, he was one of the 
founders of something called

1011
00:38:02,666 --> 00:38:05,366
Society for Sanity in Art.

1012
00:38:05,366 --> 00:38:07,766
And they were opposed 
to everything

1013
00:38:07,766 --> 00:38:10,533
that wasn't 
conventional, traditional,

1014
00:38:10,533 --> 00:38:14,566
so they opposed abstraction, 
Surrealism, and Cubism.

1015
00:38:14,566 --> 00:38:17,233
But he really is 
a wonderful artist,

1016
00:38:17,233 --> 00:38:19,966
and I think if this were 
offered in a retail gallery,

1017
00:38:19,966 --> 00:38:21,466
the asking price might be

1018
00:38:21,466 --> 00:38:22,933
around $65,000.

1019
00:38:22,933 --> 00:38:24,800
Oh! Gosh!

1020
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,200
That's interesting to know. 
(laughs)

1021
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,433
It's never been 
on the market

1022
00:38:28,433 --> 00:38:30,366
except for the 
initial purchase. 
No.

1023
00:38:30,366 --> 00:38:31,833
It's in the original frame.

1024
00:38:31,833 --> 00:38:34,933
It has a, a lot of things 
going for it.

1025
00:38:34,933 --> 00:38:36,900
♪ ♪

1026
00:38:36,900 --> 00:38:39,800
PEÑA: 
"Roadshow" ended our tour 
in Vermont at Shelburne Museum.

1027
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,033
As all Roadies know, 
any day our experts are out

1028
00:38:43,033 --> 00:38:44,366
discovering treasures 
is a good one,

1029
00:38:44,366 --> 00:38:47,766
even when the weather 
doesn't fully cooperate.

1030
00:38:47,766 --> 00:38:48,766
So this just in

1031
00:38:48,766 --> 00:38:49,766
from the meteorology desk

1032
00:38:49,766 --> 00:38:50,900
of the "Antiques Roadshow."

1033
00:38:50,900 --> 00:38:52,066
There are lightning storms

1034
00:38:52,066 --> 00:38:53,066
in the neighborhood.

1035
00:38:53,066 --> 00:38:54,966
It's beginning to rain slightly,

1036
00:38:54,966 --> 00:38:56,566
and as a precautionary measure,

1037
00:38:56,566 --> 00:39:00,400
they've asked everybody, guests 
and appraisers, to go inside.

1038
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,100
So right now, uh,

1039
00:39:02,100 --> 00:39:04,633
the "Antiques Roadshow" 
appraising field is empty.

1040
00:39:04,633 --> 00:39:06,266
Things are temporarily on hold.

1041
00:39:06,266 --> 00:39:07,566
But don't worry,

1042
00:39:07,566 --> 00:39:09,166
there are professionals 
in charge of everything.

1043
00:39:09,166 --> 00:39:10,233
It should be fine.

1044
00:39:10,233 --> 00:39:12,866
PEÑA: 
And the show did go on.

1045
00:39:12,866 --> 00:39:15,433
WOMAN: 
This is a perfume bottle...

1046
00:39:15,433 --> 00:39:17,433
Okay. 
...that my father 
had given us.

1047
00:39:17,433 --> 00:39:19,133
It's... 
And what do you know 
about it?

1048
00:39:19,133 --> 00:39:20,566
I really don't know much,

1049
00:39:20,566 --> 00:39:21,666
except that it's

1050
00:39:21,666 --> 00:39:22,866
been in the family

1051
00:39:22,866 --> 00:39:23,866
for three generations.

1052
00:39:23,866 --> 00:39:25,533
And it's one of those items

1053
00:39:25,533 --> 00:39:27,666
that you don't b, 
display publicly

1054
00:39:27,666 --> 00:39:30,333
in your house every day, 
and yet you treasure.

1055
00:39:30,333 --> 00:39:31,500
It's around... 
Have you used it?

1056
00:39:31,500 --> 00:39:32,500
No, no, no, never.

1057
00:39:32,500 --> 00:39:33,533
I don't want to open it,

1058
00:39:33,533 --> 00:39:35,033
because I believe it's old,

1059
00:39:35,033 --> 00:39:36,666
and I don't want the fragrance

1060
00:39:36,666 --> 00:39:39,366
to escape. 
Well, that is so 
fascinating.

1061
00:39:39,366 --> 00:39:40,800
(laughs) 
Because you're right.

1062
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,200
When you open it up, 
the fragrance evaporates. 
Right.

1063
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:44,766
So you locked it in place. 
I did.

1064
00:39:44,766 --> 00:39:46,633
So we don't, we don't know 
what the smell is.

1065
00:39:46,633 --> 00:39:47,700
N, n, no, not yet. 
(both chuckle)

1066
00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:49,166
But let me tell you 
about it.

1067
00:39:49,166 --> 00:39:50,433
It's gold. 
Yes.

1068
00:39:50,433 --> 00:39:51,566
And it's French,

1069
00:39:51,566 --> 00:39:53,500
and it was made by this house 
Janisset

1070
00:39:53,500 --> 00:39:57,133
who was a very famous jeweler in 
Paris,

1071
00:39:57,133 --> 00:40:00,866
worked in the 1800s to 1848.

1072
00:40:00,866 --> 00:40:07,933
In 1835, he hired a very 
well-known maker, Falize,

1073
00:40:07,933 --> 00:40:09,366
who later became 
very well-known

1074
00:40:09,366 --> 00:40:11,566
and very important 
on his own.

1075
00:40:11,566 --> 00:40:13,600
And he worked there 
at this time.

1076
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:18,366
Now, in 1848, 
the revolution came

1077
00:40:18,366 --> 00:40:20,266
and Janisset had to

1078
00:40:20,266 --> 00:40:21,733
close the shop. 
Huh.

1079
00:40:21,733 --> 00:40:22,933
So we know this is

1080
00:40:22,933 --> 00:40:25,233
prior to 1848. 
Oh, that's good.

1081
00:40:25,233 --> 00:40:28,300
So that's interesting. 
That's, that's nice, it...

1082
00:40:28,300 --> 00:40:30,100
And now let's stand it up,

1083
00:40:30,100 --> 00:40:32,733
because it doesn't stand 
unless it's in the box. 
No.

1084
00:40:32,733 --> 00:40:34,833
And these jewels, 
do you know what they are?

1085
00:40:34,833 --> 00:40:37,633
I would believe-- I f, always 
felt they were turquoise.

1086
00:40:37,633 --> 00:40:39,300
Well, you're right, 
but what about the top?

1087
00:40:39,300 --> 00:40:41,366
I always thought it was 
the same.

1088
00:40:41,366 --> 00:40:42,966
It's not. 
It's not, oh.

1089
00:40:42,966 --> 00:40:45,666
It's French blue enamel.

1090
00:40:45,666 --> 00:40:47,266
Now, when you open it up,

1091
00:40:47,266 --> 00:40:48,566
there's the stopper,

1092
00:40:48,566 --> 00:40:52,266
and we found 
the French gold mark.

1093
00:40:52,266 --> 00:40:54,033
Okay. 
Which is the eagle's head.

1094
00:40:54,033 --> 00:40:58,566
Okay. 
Now, because you've locked it, 
we can't find

1095
00:40:58,566 --> 00:41:00,266
the actual maker, 
because I'm sure...

1096
00:41:00,266 --> 00:41:01,333
It's inside.

1097
00:41:01,333 --> 00:41:03,233
It's probably inside.

1098
00:41:03,233 --> 00:41:06,333
So now we won't know for sure 
if Falize was the maker

1099
00:41:06,333 --> 00:41:11,400
of this bottle, but I have 
my suspicions that it is.

1100
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:13,766
And the material,

1101
00:41:13,766 --> 00:41:16,633
it's either just glass 
or rock crystal.

1102
00:41:16,633 --> 00:41:18,000
Very hard to tell.

1103
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,733
We'd have to do some 
extensive studying on it.

1104
00:41:20,733 --> 00:41:23,066
The gold is 18-karat, 
because French jewelry

1105
00:41:23,066 --> 00:41:25,433
is always 18-karat. 
18-karat.

1106
00:41:25,433 --> 00:41:29,533
In the retail world, if you were 
to go into a fine shop--

1107
00:41:29,533 --> 00:41:31,533
and that's where it would be...

1108
00:41:31,533 --> 00:41:32,533
Right, mm-hmm. 
...would be around

1109
00:41:32,533 --> 00:41:35,066
$15,000. 
Oh-- oh, wow.

1110
00:41:35,066 --> 00:41:37,700
Which is a considerable 
amount for an object

1111
00:41:37,700 --> 00:41:43,733
that is really 
just for your tabletop.

1112
00:41:43,733 --> 00:41:46,533
MAN: 
I brought a collection 
of boxing cards.

1113
00:41:46,533 --> 00:41:50,166
I inherited them from my dad, 
who inherited them

1114
00:41:50,166 --> 00:41:51,600
from his dad,

1115
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,400
who was a boxer in his day,

1116
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:56,666
and I think a promoter 
in the Burlington area.

1117
00:41:56,666 --> 00:42:00,666
I guess the story goes, 
he smoked Turkey Red cigarettes

1118
00:42:00,666 --> 00:42:02,533
and he would send in 
the packages,

1119
00:42:02,533 --> 00:42:04,166
and in turn, 
he would get these cards.

1120
00:42:04,166 --> 00:42:05,200
So what we have here

1121
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,300
are T9 Turkey Red cabinet cards.

1122
00:42:08,300 --> 00:42:11,466
Uh, they're from 1910, 1911.

1123
00:42:11,466 --> 00:42:13,266
There were 26 in the set. 
Mm-hmm.

1124
00:42:13,266 --> 00:42:14,666
You have 21 here.

1125
00:42:14,666 --> 00:42:16,500
And basically, 
what happened back then

1126
00:42:16,500 --> 00:42:19,800
was, you'd get a coupon 
in every pack of Turkey Reds.

1127
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,900
And if you had enough coupons, 
you could send them in

1128
00:42:21,900 --> 00:42:23,966
to the company, 
and you could check off

1129
00:42:23,966 --> 00:42:25,266
which boxer you wanted.

1130
00:42:25,266 --> 00:42:27,866
And it's basically the best 
boxers of that era.

1131
00:42:27,866 --> 00:42:30,100
So you have 
Abe Attell over here.

1132
00:42:30,100 --> 00:42:31,933
He was called 
the Little Champ.

1133
00:42:31,933 --> 00:42:33,566
He was a little guy, 
five-foot-three or so.

1134
00:42:33,566 --> 00:42:36,300
And he actually went on 
to become kind of a gambler.

1135
00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:37,966
And he's one of the 
central figures

1136
00:42:37,966 --> 00:42:40,466
in the 1919 World Series, 
the Black Sox scandal.

1137
00:42:40,466 --> 00:42:41,966
You have Sam Langford here,

1138
00:42:41,966 --> 00:42:43,800
he was a great 
early champion.

1139
00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,200
Stanley Ketchel is one 
of the best boxers of his era.

1140
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,166
He fought Jack Johnson, 
amongst others,

1141
00:42:48,166 --> 00:42:50,500
but he was actually 
murdered in 1910. 
Wow.

1142
00:42:50,500 --> 00:42:52,400
So it's kind of interesting 
to see him here.

1143
00:42:52,400 --> 00:42:54,466
And here's Jim Jeffries.

1144
00:42:54,466 --> 00:42:56,100
He was the heavyweight 
champion of the world.

1145
00:42:56,100 --> 00:42:58,933
And probably the most important 
is Jack Johnson,

1146
00:42:58,933 --> 00:43:00,566
today one of the most 
collectible

1147
00:43:00,566 --> 00:43:03,100
and kind of legendary 
boxers of all time.

1148
00:43:03,100 --> 00:43:04,633
They were meant 
to be displayed. 
Mm-hmm.

1149
00:43:04,633 --> 00:43:06,600
So generally you'll see

1150
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,600
tape or pinholes... 
Mm.

1151
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:11,700
...in the corners, 
and that's...

1152
00:43:11,700 --> 00:43:13,400
We see some of that here.

1153
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:14,933
But a lot of these, 
you don't see that.

1154
00:43:14,933 --> 00:43:17,466
Hm. 
The vibrancy of the color 
lithography is astonishing.

1155
00:43:17,466 --> 00:43:21,466
Yours would grade probably 
in the fair to good condition.

1156
00:43:21,466 --> 00:43:23,500
Okay. 
Very collectible today,

1157
00:43:23,500 --> 00:43:26,966
primarily because of 
the amount of great boxers

1158
00:43:26,966 --> 00:43:28,700
that are in the set,

1159
00:43:28,700 --> 00:43:30,500
and just the visual beauty 
of the set.

1160
00:43:30,500 --> 00:43:32,533
If I'm going to put 
the collection in an auction,

1161
00:43:32,533 --> 00:43:34,033
I'd appraise it at somewhere

1162
00:43:34,033 --> 00:43:35,600
in the $1,000 
to $1,500 range.

1163
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,266
Oh, really. Huh. 
Yeah, in this condition.

1164
00:43:37,266 --> 00:43:38,966
Very cool-- 
great collection.

1165
00:43:38,966 --> 00:43:40,400
Well, thanks for 
the information.

1166
00:43:44,866 --> 00:43:49,033
This has been in my family 
for about 120 years.

1167
00:43:49,033 --> 00:43:52,200
All I know about it is, it's 
Mount Washington Glass.

1168
00:43:52,200 --> 00:43:54,366
It's been in a box, uh, 
in a closet

1169
00:43:54,366 --> 00:43:57,366
for a long time.

1170
00:43:57,366 --> 00:44:00,400
(laughs): 
Uh, so I'm here and hoping 
to learn more about it.

1171
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:02,233
Well, it's, it's 
a beautiful piece.

1172
00:44:02,233 --> 00:44:04,866
It's sort of 
a presentation size.

1173
00:44:04,866 --> 00:44:06,233
It, it makes 
a statement in the room.

1174
00:44:06,233 --> 00:44:07,466
If you look at the bottom,

1175
00:44:07,466 --> 00:44:09,800
there's a mark on there 
with a number.

1176
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,366
The way the numbers 
are done,

1177
00:44:11,366 --> 00:44:13,200
that's sort of a European way 
to sign something.

1178
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:15,733
Okay. 
So m, my thought is that

1179
00:44:15,733 --> 00:44:17,333
it's probably not... 
Okay.

1180
00:44:17,333 --> 00:44:20,233
...Mount Washington, 
not American. 
Oh, wow, okay.

1181
00:44:20,233 --> 00:44:21,566
But European.

1182
00:44:21,566 --> 00:44:22,933
Probably 1880, 1890.

1183
00:44:22,933 --> 00:44:27,100
Based on the decoration, 
it's very Victorian in feel.

1184
00:44:27,100 --> 00:44:28,433
If it was in 
an auction setting,

1185
00:44:28,433 --> 00:44:30,666
it would probably 
be $500 to $700.

1186
00:44:30,666 --> 00:44:32,500
Retail, maybe around $1,000. 
$1,000? Okay.

1187
00:44:32,500 --> 00:44:33,500
That's really great. 
Yeah, yeah.

1188
00:44:33,500 --> 00:44:35,133
Thank you so much, 
I appreciate it.

1189
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:40,033
So these are scary, 
scary ancestors?

1190
00:44:40,033 --> 00:44:42,466
Very scary ancestors. 
(chuckles)

1191
00:44:42,466 --> 00:44:44,700
They came from a family farm 
in Chestertown, Maryland.

1192
00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:47,066
The portraits 
themselves probably date

1193
00:44:47,066 --> 00:44:48,633
to the late 19th century.

1194
00:44:48,633 --> 00:44:51,266
At this time, 
photography was so prevalent

1195
00:44:51,266 --> 00:44:54,900
that these portraits were often 
painted from photograph.

1196
00:44:54,900 --> 00:44:55,933
There are very few collectors

1197
00:44:55,933 --> 00:44:57,333
that want a portrait of maybe

1198
00:44:57,333 --> 00:44:59,100
an unknown sitter on the wall. 
Yeah.

1199
00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:02,600
Usually an auction value 
or estimate

1200
00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,566
for a pair of portraits 
like this

1201
00:45:05,566 --> 00:45:07,333
is around $100 to $150 or so. 
Okay.

1202
00:45:07,333 --> 00:45:08,366
Who were they painted by?

1203
00:45:08,366 --> 00:45:11,200
We seldom can identify 
these painters

1204
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,133
unless they are signed, 
which they generally are not.

1205
00:45:15,733 --> 00:45:17,933
WOMAN: 
My grandmother had a sister.

1206
00:45:17,933 --> 00:45:21,866
Her name was Lottie Neustein, 
and they lived in New York.

1207
00:45:21,866 --> 00:45:24,533
She had worked as 
an X-ray technician

1208
00:45:24,533 --> 00:45:28,066
for Dr. Bucky, who was 
a close friend of Einstein.

1209
00:45:28,066 --> 00:45:30,333
So she met him on 
a personal level

1210
00:45:30,333 --> 00:45:33,066
and started taking 
photographs of him.

1211
00:45:33,066 --> 00:45:37,366
So this one here is a photograph 
from Lottie Neustein,

1212
00:45:37,366 --> 00:45:38,966
a picture of herself,

1213
00:45:38,966 --> 00:45:43,466
and a letter written to her 
and signed, in German.

1214
00:45:43,466 --> 00:45:45,966
And I don't know 
the translation.

1215
00:45:45,966 --> 00:45:47,300
The middle piece here

1216
00:45:47,300 --> 00:45:52,200
is a sketch that 
Einstein had signed.

1217
00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:55,133
Maybe a year ago, 
I found an issue

1218
00:45:55,133 --> 00:45:58,633
of "Saturday Review" 
from 1955,

1219
00:45:58,633 --> 00:46:02,033
and that was on the cover.

1220
00:46:02,033 --> 00:46:04,200
And our last piece is 
an autographed book

1221
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,566
of Albert Einstein-- 
a biography, I believe. 
(murmurs)

1222
00:46:06,566 --> 00:46:09,833
One of the things that 
I really love about this

1223
00:46:09,833 --> 00:46:11,433
is when you open up

1224
00:46:11,433 --> 00:46:12,633
and you can touch

1225
00:46:12,633 --> 00:46:14,533
something that Einstein touched.

1226
00:46:14,533 --> 00:46:16,133
I mean, it just sends a thrill.

1227
00:46:16,133 --> 00:46:18,666
Einstein is obviously 
one of the most important

1228
00:46:18,666 --> 00:46:20,266
scientists of all time.

1229
00:46:20,266 --> 00:46:21,566
The first item there, 
your letter,

1230
00:46:21,566 --> 00:46:26,766
it was done in 1942 
and it's tough to translate.

1231
00:46:26,766 --> 00:46:29,200
We actually, someone who 
speaks German well

1232
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:30,566
looked at it and said,

1233
00:46:30,566 --> 00:46:31,933
"Can't quite make it out." 
Oh...

1234
00:46:31,933 --> 00:46:33,233
"It'll take a little more." 
(chuckles)

1235
00:46:33,233 --> 00:46:35,633
But what it is, 
it was around the holidays,

1236
00:46:35,633 --> 00:46:40,233
and she had apparently given him 
some chocolate or some candy.

1237
00:46:40,233 --> 00:46:42,033
Right. 
He was thanking her for that.

1238
00:46:42,033 --> 00:46:44,600
And his handwriting is 
very, very distinctive.

1239
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,833
And when you see an Einstein 
signature, it's very small,

1240
00:46:47,833 --> 00:46:48,866
very compact.

1241
00:46:48,866 --> 00:46:50,500
The print--

1242
00:46:50,500 --> 00:46:53,433
it's nice and you say it was 
used in a magazine cover. 
Right.

1243
00:46:53,433 --> 00:46:55,466
And who is this signed to?

1244
00:46:55,466 --> 00:46:58,366
That's signed to 
Lottie's sister

1245
00:46:58,366 --> 00:47:00,600
Alice Schlesinger. 
Okay.

1246
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:04,166
And then the book, 
which was, came out in 1949,

1247
00:47:04,166 --> 00:47:05,866
"The World As I See It,"

1248
00:47:05,866 --> 00:47:07,066
which was sort of a

1249
00:47:07,066 --> 00:47:08,633
philosophical writing 
of Einstein's,

1250
00:47:08,633 --> 00:47:10,900
a very nice inscription.

1251
00:47:10,900 --> 00:47:13,566
It's a little in English, 
it's a little bit in German.

1252
00:47:13,566 --> 00:47:15,433
You've never done anything 
with the value on these.

1253
00:47:15,433 --> 00:47:16,733
No.

1254
00:47:16,733 --> 00:47:19,466
This would be in 
the value of $5,000.

1255
00:47:19,466 --> 00:47:21,366
Wow. 
Maybe a little bit more.

1256
00:47:21,366 --> 00:47:22,366
Okay.

1257
00:47:22,366 --> 00:47:23,800
$5,000 to $6,000.

1258
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:24,966
This one,

1259
00:47:24,966 --> 00:47:27,600
1951, and this is probably

1260
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:29,733
a $3,000 to $5,000...

1261
00:47:29,733 --> 00:47:33,633
Wow. 
...uh, just for the signature.

1262
00:47:33,633 --> 00:47:36,633
And then the last one

1263
00:47:36,633 --> 00:47:38,133
is a nicely signed book.

1264
00:47:38,133 --> 00:47:41,566
And again, you're probably 
in that $5,000 to $6,000 range

1265
00:47:41,566 --> 00:47:42,933
because he didn't 
just sign it. 
(chuckles)

1266
00:47:42,933 --> 00:47:45,333
So you have $13,000... 
Wow.

1267
00:47:45,333 --> 00:47:48,733
...to $17,000 in 
a retail value.

1268
00:47:48,733 --> 00:47:50,866
Thank you so much. 
(chuckles)

1269
00:47:50,866 --> 00:47:53,100
It's nice to know.

1270
00:47:58,133 --> 00:48:02,166
WOMAN: 
I got it 40 years ago 
from my ex-husband,

1271
00:48:02,166 --> 00:48:04,266
who is now deceased. 
Hm.

1272
00:48:04,266 --> 00:48:05,300
We'd been together for a few 
years

1273
00:48:05,300 --> 00:48:06,300
and we got married.

1274
00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:08,100
And I always jokingly say

1275
00:48:08,100 --> 00:48:09,866
it lasted five minutes.

1276
00:48:09,866 --> 00:48:12,700
But in that five minutes, 
he was a very generous man

1277
00:48:12,700 --> 00:48:14,266
and very, very tasteful.

1278
00:48:14,266 --> 00:48:16,233
We used to find 
an excuse to walk past

1279
00:48:16,233 --> 00:48:17,833
this antique store 
on 57th Street in Manhattan.

1280
00:48:17,833 --> 00:48:21,333
I remember seeing this 
and I s, commented on

1281
00:48:21,333 --> 00:48:23,200
how much I liked it, 
and I thought he would

1282
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:24,366
get it for me 
for my birthday.

1283
00:48:24,366 --> 00:48:26,466
But instead 
I got my portrait

1284
00:48:26,466 --> 00:48:28,200
done by Andy Warhol.

1285
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:30,966
(chuckles) 
And believe it or not, 
I wanted that more.

1286
00:48:30,966 --> 00:48:33,033
It showed up 
at Christmastime.

1287
00:48:33,033 --> 00:48:34,433
This was your Christmas 
gift.

1288
00:48:34,433 --> 00:48:36,100
This was a 
Christmas present, yes.

1289
00:48:36,100 --> 00:48:37,900
He told me it was 
from the 1700s.

1290
00:48:37,900 --> 00:48:39,566
That was about 
all I knew about it.

1291
00:48:39,566 --> 00:48:41,800
Would you know what your husband 
might have paid for this?

1292
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,666
You know, I can't guess, 
but I'm sure it was expensive.

1293
00:48:44,666 --> 00:48:46,866
I was wife number four.

1294
00:48:46,866 --> 00:48:49,266
So I don't know how many gifts 
like this were given.

1295
00:48:49,266 --> 00:48:52,133
But he was a good customer 
and they knew him by name.

1296
00:48:52,133 --> 00:48:55,466
It's a Renaissance Revival 
18-karat-gold necklace

1297
00:48:55,466 --> 00:48:57,966
done with 
very delicate enameling.

1298
00:48:57,966 --> 00:49:00,366
We've got cabochon peridots 
and cabochon rubies

1299
00:49:00,366 --> 00:49:02,766
of two separate colors.

1300
00:49:02,766 --> 00:49:05,366
The rubies are like 
flashlights under a U.V. light,

1301
00:49:05,366 --> 00:49:07,100
which is a sign of 
very strong fluorescence.

1302
00:49:07,100 --> 00:49:09,200
So these are Burmese rubies.

1303
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,033
The Renaissance Revival 
generally starts

1304
00:49:13,033 --> 00:49:17,766
in the 1840s and ends 
in the early 20th century.

1305
00:49:17,766 --> 00:49:21,266
But the sweet spot was 1850s 
through the 1890s.

1306
00:49:21,266 --> 00:49:24,000
The style screams 
Italian Renaissance.

1307
00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,400
This piece is unsigned,

1308
00:49:25,400 --> 00:49:28,300
but in terms of the hand that 
made it,

1309
00:49:28,300 --> 00:49:29,600
it's signed all over the place.

1310
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,300
The maker's name 
was Carlo Giuliano.

1311
00:49:32,300 --> 00:49:34,866
Carlo Giuliano 
was the master

1312
00:49:34,866 --> 00:49:36,966
of Renaissance Revival 
enamel work.

1313
00:49:36,966 --> 00:49:39,700
He's from Naples, born in 1831.

1314
00:49:39,700 --> 00:49:43,333
He worked with Castellani 
in Naples or Rome,

1315
00:49:43,333 --> 00:49:46,166
and then he was sent 
to London in 1860.

1316
00:49:46,166 --> 00:49:49,366
He started hiring himself out 
making jewelry

1317
00:49:49,366 --> 00:49:52,833
and making designs 
for other very famous

1318
00:49:52,833 --> 00:49:54,366
London jewelry houses.

1319
00:49:54,366 --> 00:49:57,066
People with royal warrants 
for Queen Victoria, for example.

1320
00:49:57,066 --> 00:49:58,233
Queen Victoria loved him.

1321
00:49:58,233 --> 00:50:02,966
He opened his own store 
in 1874.

1322
00:50:02,966 --> 00:50:04,866
Carlo Giuliano dies in 1895.

1323
00:50:04,866 --> 00:50:07,066
And while his sons 
carry on the business

1324
00:50:07,066 --> 00:50:09,700
until around 1910,

1325
00:50:09,700 --> 00:50:11,633
the work does go downhill 
a little bit.

1326
00:50:11,633 --> 00:50:12,700
He's a master.

1327
00:50:12,700 --> 00:50:14,933
Very few people 
have this talent

1328
00:50:14,933 --> 00:50:17,766
for both execution 
and design work.

1329
00:50:17,766 --> 00:50:20,666
The earrings have a screw-back 
closure for non-pierced ears.

1330
00:50:20,666 --> 00:50:25,333
The date, then, is 
somewhere around 1890.

1331
00:50:25,333 --> 00:50:30,133
A fair retail price is 
between $65,000 and $85,000.

1332
00:50:30,133 --> 00:50:32,933
Oh, my goodness.

1333
00:50:32,933 --> 00:50:35,100
Now, for insurance value,

1334
00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:38,800
you have to insure that 
piece of jewelry

1335
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:41,700
for $120,000 for the set.

1336
00:50:41,700 --> 00:50:43,500
Well, thank you so much, 
Sarah.

1337
00:50:43,500 --> 00:50:45,533
You're welcome.

1338
00:50:48,433 --> 00:50:50,100
♪ ♪

1339
00:50:50,100 --> 00:50:52,333
PEÑA: 
And now it's time for 
the "Roadshow" Feedback Booth.

1340
00:50:52,333 --> 00:50:55,800
I found out that 
my $20 picture

1341
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:57,700
was actually worth 
$300 to $400.

1342
00:50:57,700 --> 00:51:01,166
So everybody can quit 
making fun of my cow picture. 
(laughs)

1343
00:51:01,166 --> 00:51:02,933
And they liked my hat, 
but they said

1344
00:51:02,933 --> 00:51:06,300
it was probably more likely 
to be a bowl from Burma. 
(laughs)

1345
00:51:06,300 --> 00:51:09,000
I brought a man's

1346
00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:10,400
platinum diamond

1347
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:11,833
star sapphire ring,

1348
00:51:11,833 --> 00:51:13,800
appraised at 10K.

1349
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:18,900
And the Steiff bear, well...

1350
00:51:18,900 --> 00:51:21,233
(imitating sad trombone) 
(laughs)

1351
00:51:21,233 --> 00:51:22,600
I picked this up at a, uh,

1352
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,333
estate sale 
for five dollars.

1353
00:51:24,333 --> 00:51:26,466
Um, she kind of looks 
creepy,

1354
00:51:26,466 --> 00:51:28,000
a little haunted, but, 
you know,

1355
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:29,266
that just goes with 
the territory.

1356
00:51:29,266 --> 00:51:32,900
Um, she was appraised 
at $700 to $1,000.

1357
00:51:32,900 --> 00:51:36,033
So I'm just going to 
keep her on my bookshelf

1358
00:51:36,033 --> 00:51:38,000
and hopefully 
she doesn't haunt me.

1359
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,333
This camera is clearly

1360
00:51:39,333 --> 00:51:40,766
older than this, um, 
camera.

1361
00:51:40,766 --> 00:51:42,933
They're both Polaroids, 
but this one is only worth

1362
00:51:42,933 --> 00:51:46,600
$25, about $25, 
whereas this one actually works,

1363
00:51:46,600 --> 00:51:47,833
you can get film for it,

1364
00:51:47,833 --> 00:51:50,933
and it's worth, uh, 
about $200 to $300.

1365
00:51:50,933 --> 00:51:53,966
And if we put on some 
baby wipe and clean this up,

1366
00:51:53,966 --> 00:51:55,966
it's worth up to $600. 
(chuckles)

1367
00:51:55,966 --> 00:51:58,900
So older doesn't necessarily 
mean more valuable.

1368
00:51:58,900 --> 00:52:01,233
We learned that he was carved

1369
00:52:01,233 --> 00:52:03,633
in maybe the 1880s or 1890s

1370
00:52:03,633 --> 00:52:06,366
by Italian, um, artisans.

1371
00:52:06,366 --> 00:52:08,466
And we, the appraiser 
pointed out

1372
00:52:08,466 --> 00:52:10,800
this lovely little 
crack right here... 
(chuckles)

1373
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,433
...and it goes all the way 
around to the backside. 
(both laughing)

1374
00:52:14,433 --> 00:52:17,333
This little bottom has gotten us 
so much attention today.

1375
00:52:17,333 --> 00:52:18,800
More than we've had 
in years.

1376
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:19,800
More than we've had in years.

1377
00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,000
PEÑA: 
Thanks for watching.

1378
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,400
See you next time 
on "Antiques Roadshow."