WEBVTT 00:01.433 --> 00:03.466 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5% ♪ ♪ 00:04.733 --> 00:06.533 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% CORAL PEÑA: We've saved some of the best appraisals 00:06.533 --> 00:08.733 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% of the 2023 "Roadshow" tour for last. 00:08.733 --> 00:11.133 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% GUEST: My godfather gave it to me as a gift, 00:11.133 --> 00:13.533 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% 'cause, to be honest, I am the favorite. (chuckles) 00:13.533 --> 00:15.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% You are kidding! 00:15.866 --> 00:18.000 align:left position:45% line:77% size:45% PEÑA: It's "Antiques Roadshow: Junk in the Trunk." 00:18.000 --> 00:23.300 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5% ♪ ♪ 00:36.833 --> 00:39.600 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% PEÑA: The Rural Life Museum at Louisiana State University 00:39.600 --> 00:43.633 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% was the first stop on our season 28 tour. 00:43.633 --> 00:45.033 align:left position:47.5% line:5% size:42.5% They're just like little finger puppets. 00:45.033 --> 00:46.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Right, little finger... 00:46.266 --> 00:48.066 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% So you would just put them in here and... 00:48.066 --> 00:50.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Have a good time. ...have a party: "Hello! Hello!" 00:50.300 --> 00:52.766 align:left position:45% line:77% size:45% PEÑA: And even though not all the news was good news... 00:52.766 --> 00:54.933 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: When I look at this under a magnifying glass, 00:54.933 --> 00:57.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% it's composed of hundreds of little photographic pixels. 00:57.800 --> 01:00.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It is a reproduction of a painting. 01:00.300 --> 01:03.566 align:left position:45% line:77% size:45% PEÑA: ...everyone was happy to be sharing their treasures. 01:03.566 --> 01:06.666 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% Beautiful day in Baton Rouge. 01:06.666 --> 01:09.766 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GUEST: We went to a country auction less than a year ago, 01:09.766 --> 01:11.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and this is the only thing I was waiting for 01:11.966 --> 01:13.000 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% for the whole auction, and it 01:13.000 --> 01:14.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% was, like, the end of the day. 01:14.566 --> 01:15.800 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% There was me and this one lady 01:15.800 --> 01:17.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% that was bidding on it, 01:17.700 --> 01:19.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and I kept bidding, and she bid, 01:19.133 --> 01:20.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and she finally gave up, 01:20.466 --> 01:22.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and it was, like, $40. 01:22.500 --> 01:25.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% My husband's looking at me, like, "You paid $40 for that?" 01:25.366 --> 01:29.433 align:left position:32.5% line:77% size:57.5% (both chuckle) This was made in Venice, 01:29.433 --> 01:32.200 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% and it was designed by a young architect 01:32.200 --> 01:34.833 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% named Alessandro Pianon, 01:34.833 --> 01:38.366 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% and it was made by a company called Vistosi. 01:38.366 --> 01:41.666 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% Pianon designed this in 1963. 01:41.666 --> 01:44.066 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% And there were whole series-- he had a family 01:44.066 --> 01:46.400 align:left position:42.5% line:71% size:47.5% in different colors and shapes. Oh, my goodness. 01:46.400 --> 01:48.366 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% They're not signed-- my experience is 01:48.366 --> 01:50.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% that they're not usually signed, so there, 01:50.800 --> 01:52.900 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% but there was a, there is a possibility, 01:52.900 --> 01:54.833 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% at one point, it had a paper label on it. 01:54.833 --> 01:57.533 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Okay. And so a lot of those paper labels disappear. 01:57.533 --> 02:01.133 align:left position:70% line:83% size:20% You have this beautiful blown glass 02:01.133 --> 02:03.566 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% and these copper legs and these wonderful eyes, 02:03.566 --> 02:05.866 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% those little n, murrine eyes, 02:05.866 --> 02:08.300 align:left position:22.5% line:71% size:67.5% where you see the different colors in them. Yeah, I liked that 02:08.300 --> 02:10.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% when I saw it-- that's one thing that attracted me to it. 02:10.966 --> 02:13.166 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% It's a very sought-after piece. 02:13.166 --> 02:14.800 align:left position:47.5% line:5% size:42.5% People love this. Really? 02:14.800 --> 02:16.600 align:left position:52.5% line:5% size:37.5% Because there's such a strong interest 02:16.600 --> 02:18.133 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% in mid-century design. 02:18.133 --> 02:21.866 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% This piece, in a retail venue today, would sell 02:21.866 --> 02:25.100 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% for between $7,000 and $9,000. 02:25.100 --> 02:28.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% (laughs) 02:28.533 --> 02:31.733 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% You are kidding! I'm not. 02:31.733 --> 02:35.833 align:left position:32.5% line:77% size:57.5% (both laughing) Oh, my-- oh, my goodness. 02:35.833 --> 02:37.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I'm stunned, I am... 02:37.366 --> 02:40.233 align:left position:77.5% line:77% size:12.5% Um... And here I am just swinging it around here 02:40.233 --> 02:41.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% when I got here today! 02:41.333 --> 02:44.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I was, like, holdin' it by the feet. 02:44.166 --> 02:47.533 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% (both laugh) Oh, my gosh, that's, oh, wow. 02:47.533 --> 02:50.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I had no idea-- that's fantastic. 02:52.666 --> 02:57.766 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% My grandmother was a weaver for the Dorothy Liebes studios. 02:57.766 --> 02:59.633 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% Besides doing that as her day job, 02:59.633 --> 03:01.833 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% she learned how to do tapestry weaving. 03:01.833 --> 03:04.000 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% This is one of the earlier ones she did. 03:04.000 --> 03:05.633 align:left position:65% line:83% size:25% We call it "George and the Dragon," 03:05.633 --> 03:09.300 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50% probably late 1940s, early, early 1950s. 03:09.300 --> 03:12.100 align:left position:67.5% line:5% size:22.5% And then, as she became older, 03:12.100 --> 03:14.166 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% she was doing things that reminded her of home. 03:14.166 --> 03:18.200 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% She's Danish, and this one here is of Denmark, 03:18.200 --> 03:21.500 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% with the runestones and the heather. 03:21.500 --> 03:25.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It is fantastic that you brought these two pieces in, 03:25.333 --> 03:28.666 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% tapestries woven by your grandmother, Kamma Zethraus, 03:28.666 --> 03:32.500 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% who was the star weaver in the studio of Dorothy Liebes. 03:32.500 --> 03:35.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Dorothy Liebes basically is the godmother 03:35.566 --> 03:37.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% of weaving in this country 03:37.000 --> 03:39.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% in 20th-century America. 03:39.400 --> 03:42.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So to see these is great-- they are fiber art. 03:42.066 --> 03:43.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It's textile art. 03:43.766 --> 03:46.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's very different from what Kamma would have been doing 03:46.900 --> 03:48.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% in the workshop with Dorothy. 03:48.766 --> 03:52.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% The nine-to-five weaving was a commercial weaving. 03:52.000 --> 03:54.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% You had said this one you thought was late 1940s, 03:54.200 --> 03:56.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% early 1950s, and I, I would have probably guessed the same. 03:56.800 --> 04:01.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And my reason for thinking about circa 1950 is 04:01.266 --> 04:03.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% because of this use of Lurex, 04:03.366 --> 04:06.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% which, Lurex was only invented in 1946. 04:06.066 --> 04:07.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It is a metallic substance 04:07.500 --> 04:10.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% that is then sandwiched in plastic, effectively. Ah. 04:10.866 --> 04:14.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It doesn't tarnish, and today, 70 years later, 04:14.466 --> 04:16.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% it still looks like silver. 04:16.066 --> 04:17.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% As modern as this fabric is, 04:17.700 --> 04:19.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% the scene is picking up on a totally different tradition. 04:19.866 --> 04:22.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% What we see here is St. George and the dragon 04:22.566 --> 04:25.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% in a very modern and very different context. 04:25.366 --> 04:28.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So this piece closest to you, when do you think 04:28.000 --> 04:29.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% your grandmother wove it? 04:29.100 --> 04:31.600 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% So I think it was in the 1970s. 04:31.600 --> 04:33.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It was more marketable, in a way, 04:33.033 --> 04:35.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% this Modernist, abstracted style. 04:35.000 --> 04:36.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% The different textures, 04:36.300 --> 04:40.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% the longer cut yarn versus the flat weave at the top, 04:40.233 --> 04:42.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% it's really something that is happening 04:42.100 --> 04:45.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% in the late '60s and then into the '70s. 04:45.000 --> 04:46.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% In terms of value, 04:46.466 --> 04:47.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I would put these conservatively at auction 04:47.933 --> 04:49.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% in the range of about 04:49.566 --> 04:51.900 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% $1,000 to $1,500 each. Okay. 04:59.500 --> 05:02.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I bought a teacup and saucer 05:02.133 --> 05:05.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% that I got at a thrift store near our home. 05:05.233 --> 05:10.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% My mom bought it for me for $20. 05:10.100 --> 05:12.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It was given to me by a past president 05:12.966 --> 05:16.566 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% of the AQHA, Mr. David M. Perkins. 05:16.566 --> 05:20.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It is the icon-- it's not a specific horse. 05:20.366 --> 05:23.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's what a quarter horse should look like. 05:23.000 --> 05:24.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It was in his barn, 05:24.600 --> 05:26.800 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% and I said, "Mr. Dave, what you gonna do with that portrait?" 05:26.800 --> 05:28.266 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% He said, "I'm gonna give it to you." 05:29.400 --> 05:32.400 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5% APPRAISER: So, I'm researching this painting. 05:32.400 --> 05:34.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% The story, uh, that this was, you know, 05:34.966 --> 05:37.100 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% previously through David Perkins, 05:37.100 --> 05:38.333 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% is quite compelling. 05:38.333 --> 05:41.000 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% So I'm, I'm still kind of researching 05:41.000 --> 05:42.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% some potential attributions. 05:42.600 --> 05:44.766 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% INTERVIEWER: Is this the largest horse painting 05:44.766 --> 05:46.833 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% you've ever had to do research on? 05:46.833 --> 05:48.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% APPRAISER: It, it definitely is. (man laughs) 05:48.700 --> 05:50.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% We were going through my dad's comic books, 05:50.933 --> 05:53.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and we found the Michael Jordan rookie card. 05:53.100 --> 05:56.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% His mom bought them for him when he was around my age. 05:56.400 --> 05:58.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% He found them at a swap meet. 05:58.466 --> 06:01.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% He said that she wouldn't have paid, like, 06:01.333 --> 06:02.933 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% more than $50 for all of them. (chuckles) 06:02.933 --> 06:04.966 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% The card closest to me, 06:04.966 --> 06:07.466 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% this is the famous Michael Jordan rookie card, 06:07.466 --> 06:10.033 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% 1986-87 Fleer card. 06:10.033 --> 06:11.500 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% Jordan's rookie year was the year prior. 06:11.500 --> 06:12.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Uh, because of licensing issues, 06:12.766 --> 06:14.566 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% Fleer came out with the card a year later. 06:14.566 --> 06:17.200 align:left position:40% line:77% size:50% You could buy a pack for 30 cents. Yeah. 06:17.200 --> 06:19.000 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Now, if the card was in there, wonderful, right? 06:19.000 --> 06:20.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Yeah. Hit or miss. 06:20.433 --> 06:23.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% You got lucky if you had the sticker in there with it, right? 06:23.033 --> 06:25.100 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Yeah. And that's, that's what the card closest to you is. 06:25.100 --> 06:26.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Yes. Really, truly, 06:26.533 --> 06:30.666 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% this is among the best cards in, in sports. Yeah. 06:30.666 --> 06:32.200 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% Certainly in basketball. 06:32.200 --> 06:34.766 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Value is a finicky thing with cards because of condition. 06:34.766 --> 06:38.433 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% We think it's probably closer to, on a one-to-ten scale, 06:38.433 --> 06:41.400 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% a two or three grade, maybe closer to a two. 06:41.400 --> 06:43.200 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% There are some issues with the corners, but at auction, 06:43.200 --> 06:46.200 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% the rookie card, closest to me, would sell 06:46.200 --> 06:48.033 align:left position:65% line:83% size:25% for $2,000 to $2,500, okay? 06:48.033 --> 06:50.033 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% The sticker, again, 06:50.033 --> 06:51.566 align:left position:62.5% line:83% size:27.5% some issues with condition. 06:51.566 --> 06:53.533 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% That probably sells for $400 to $500 at auction. 06:53.533 --> 06:55.666 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% So you have an idea now 06:55.666 --> 06:58.200 align:left position:57.5% line:77% size:32.5% of where you, where you sit, and... Yeah. 06:58.200 --> 06:59.566 align:left position:47.5% line:77% size:42.5% What to look for. Yeah. 06:59.566 --> 07:01.166 align:left position:47.5% line:71% size:42.5% Convince your dad to go buy some more. (chuckles) 07:01.166 --> 07:02.766 align:left position:65% line:5% size:25% (chuckles) 07:09.133 --> 07:11.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% My father purchased it, 07:11.566 --> 07:13.400 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and before he passed away, 07:13.400 --> 07:15.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% he handed it to me. 07:15.233 --> 07:16.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He purchased it 07:16.600 --> 07:18.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% in Athens, Greece, in 1978. 07:18.600 --> 07:21.700 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% He paid $1,170, I think. 07:21.700 --> 07:23.733 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% He was in the military? Yeah. 07:23.733 --> 07:26.166 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% It's a French sculpture of Joan of Arc. 07:26.166 --> 07:28.966 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% She was the Maid of Orléans, or Orleans. Mm-hmm. 07:28.966 --> 07:32.500 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% Of course, New Orleans is named after the Duke of Orléans. 07:32.500 --> 07:35.766 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% She started seeing visions when she was 13 years old, 07:35.766 --> 07:37.300 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% and these visions told her 07:37.300 --> 07:40.100 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% that she should lead the French army against the English. 07:40.100 --> 07:43.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And she was extraordinarily successful doing that. 07:43.900 --> 07:47.500 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% She led the French to victory in, in 1429. 07:47.500 --> 07:50.633 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% At this time, she was 17 years old. 07:50.633 --> 07:51.666 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% She received sainthood. Mm-hmm. 07:51.666 --> 07:53.233 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% Not until the 20th century. 07:53.233 --> 07:55.766 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% But she is the patron saint 07:55.766 --> 07:57.766 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% of, uh, military people and soldiers. 07:57.766 --> 08:00.666 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% This piece was originally conceived around 1890. 08:00.666 --> 08:04.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It is a monument in Normandy to soldiers. 08:04.500 --> 08:06.100 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% And there's a version of this. 08:06.100 --> 08:09.766 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% It's inscribed, her words: "You can chain me, 08:09.766 --> 08:12.866 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50% but you cannot chain the destiny of France." 08:12.866 --> 08:15.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% She was burned at the stake in 1431, 08:15.433 --> 08:18.133 align:left position:65% line:83% size:25% at the age of 19 years old. 08:18.133 --> 08:20.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% She was tried and convicted of heresy. 08:20.666 --> 08:23.466 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% She was also convicted of blasphemy 08:23.466 --> 08:26.366 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% because she wore men's clothing. 08:26.366 --> 08:29.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It's signed E. Barrias-- his name was Louis-Ernest Barrias. 08:29.966 --> 08:32.233 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% He was a very, very prominent sculptor 08:32.233 --> 08:33.566 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% in, in the 19th century. 08:33.566 --> 08:36.533 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% Unfortunately, today, nobody knows who he is. 08:36.533 --> 08:39.933 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% His most famous work is on the façade of the Paris Opera. 08:39.933 --> 08:42.300 align:left position:60% line:83% size:30% The monument was around 1890, 08:42.300 --> 08:45.633 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% so this piece was probably in the 1890s, beautifully cast. 08:45.633 --> 08:48.333 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% This is sort of the high point of French bronze work. 08:48.333 --> 08:51.266 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% In terms of value, French 19th-century sculpture 08:51.266 --> 08:53.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% is not particularly popular these days. 08:53.333 --> 08:56.200 align:left position:60% line:83% size:30% Nonetheless, it would have an auction value 08:56.200 --> 08:59.400 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% in the, uh, $6,000 to $8,000 range. Oh, that's nice. 08:59.400 --> 09:03.066 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% It could be insured for $10,000, $12,000. 09:07.266 --> 09:09.900 align:left position:45% line:5% size:45% PEÑA: "Roadshow" was ready for the terrific turnout 09:09.900 --> 09:11.433 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% at the North Carolina Museum of Art 09:11.433 --> 09:15.133 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% in Raleigh, with nearly 3,500 attending. 09:15.133 --> 09:16.866 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% There were lots of smiles 09:16.866 --> 09:17.866 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% and surprises. 09:17.866 --> 09:19.466 align:left position:80% line:71% size:10% MAN: Hello! Oh! 09:19.466 --> 09:20.900 align:left position:80% line:71% size:10%   (all laughing) 09:20.900 --> 09:23.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% (laughing): Oh, you scared me! 09:23.933 --> 09:25.533 align:left position:45% line:77% size:45% PEÑA: And everyone got a free appraisal. 09:25.533 --> 09:28.033 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% But fewer than 150 guests 09:28.033 --> 09:30.800 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% were lucky enough to be chosen to be in front of our cameras. 09:30.800 --> 09:33.133 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% Did their luck pay off? 09:35.033 --> 09:39.800 align:left position:75% line:77% size:15% GUEST: I brought a silver tray that my husband and I bought 09:39.800 --> 09:42.366 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% on our honeymoon in 1957. 09:42.366 --> 09:44.066 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5% I will admit, though, 09:44.066 --> 09:47.233 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% that we needed an air conditioner awfully bad. 09:47.233 --> 09:50.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And to use the wedding check that we'd been given 09:50.833 --> 09:52.233 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5% for a silver tray 09:52.233 --> 09:54.800 align:left position:62.5% line:71% size:27.5% was against my better judgment. (chuckles) 09:54.800 --> 09:56.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% What do you know about the family 09:56.466 --> 09:58.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% whose crest is represented? 09:58.933 --> 10:01.266 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% Well, we've learned the Williams family 10:01.266 --> 10:03.800 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5% lived in Cornwall 10:03.800 --> 10:05.100 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% beginning in the late 1700s, 10:05.100 --> 10:08.633 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% and they owned copper and tin mines. 10:08.633 --> 10:10.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Tell me what you know about the inscription 10:10.733 --> 10:12.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% on the back of the tray here. 10:12.300 --> 10:14.733 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% The inscription is a gift 10:14.733 --> 10:17.500 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% from a man named Charles Williams 10:17.500 --> 10:22.200 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% to his aunt and uncle Caroline and William Williams 10:22.200 --> 10:26.466 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% at their home, Tregullow. 10:26.466 --> 10:27.666 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% This is in Cornwall. 10:27.666 --> 10:30.100 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% We recently found out more about this. 10:30.100 --> 10:32.500 align:left position:60% line:83% size:30% The Williams are still in the house. 10:32.500 --> 10:34.800 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% They have gardens open to the public. 10:34.800 --> 10:36.266 align:left position:62.5% line:89% size:27.5% We emailed, 10:36.266 --> 10:39.800 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and told them we had the tray from their forebears, 10:39.800 --> 10:42.833 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% and asked them if they were interested, 10:42.833 --> 10:44.500 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% and they emailed back, 10:44.500 --> 10:49.300 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% sort of a polite reply, not really interested. 10:49.300 --> 10:51.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% There are hallmarks-- in this case, 10:51.666 --> 10:54.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% five different marks, one of which is a sterling mark, 10:54.933 --> 10:57.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% one is a London mark, another is a date mark. 10:57.200 --> 11:00.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% And then there's a fainter mark that says "JC." 11:00.533 --> 11:03.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% JC within an octagonal cartouche 11:03.166 --> 11:06.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and an N date mark will indicate 11:06.300 --> 11:09.500 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% that John Crouch II made this tray... Mm. 11:09.500 --> 11:12.366 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% ...in 1808. 1808. 11:12.366 --> 11:14.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He was a second-generation silversmith. 11:14.366 --> 11:16.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Uh, his father was a silversmith, as well, 11:16.466 --> 11:19.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and he did incredible work during George III's reign. 11:19.833 --> 11:22.566 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% Characteristic of a George III tray 11:22.566 --> 11:24.933 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% is a gadrooned border, interrupted by 11:24.933 --> 11:28.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% shells, which are further chased to enhance their appearance, 11:28.666 --> 11:31.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% the figural lion's mask handles, 11:31.466 --> 11:35.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% which are really nicely cast and well-drawn, well-decorated, 11:35.833 --> 11:37.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and, of course, engraving throughout, 11:37.666 --> 11:40.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% centering the crest of the Williams family. 11:40.466 --> 11:42.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% What did you pay for it at the time? 11:42.300 --> 11:43.933 align:left position:77.5% line:83% size:12.5% $500. Mm-hmm. 11:43.933 --> 11:47.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% The appropriate auction estimate, in my opinion, 11:47.000 --> 11:49.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% would be $8,000 to $12,000. 11:50.700 --> 11:53.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Seems like a pretty good return on investment to me. 11:53.233 --> 11:54.233 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% It does-- I'm, I'm... 11:54.233 --> 11:56.100 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% It's wonderful, thank you. 11:56.100 --> 11:58.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% If you were to insure it, 11:58.133 --> 12:00.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% we'd suggest an insurance estimate 12:00.766 --> 12:02.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% somewhere closer to $20,000. Okay. 12:04.233 --> 12:07.266 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GUEST: I went to the World Science Fiction Convention called 12:07.266 --> 12:12.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% MidAmeriCon, and that was in '76, Labor Day, in Kansas City. 12:12.033 --> 12:14.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And they had a "Star Wars" room there. 12:14.766 --> 12:18.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And they had the Darth Vader costume on a mannequin. Wow. 12:18.366 --> 12:21.800 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And I went right up to it and, like, "Ah, evil!" (chuckles) 12:21.800 --> 12:23.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And I came back the next day, 12:23.733 --> 12:25.466 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and there's a bunch of people in there, 12:25.466 --> 12:26.933 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% and there's this blonde kid. 12:26.933 --> 12:29.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And one of the people come up and say to me, 12:29.500 --> 12:31.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% "Do you want to buy a poster?" 12:31.000 --> 12:32.866 align:left position:72.5% line:77% size:17.5% Mm-hmm. And I said, "Sure, yeah." 12:32.866 --> 12:34.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I'm, I'm easy, you know? 12:34.300 --> 12:37.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And, "How much?", and he said, "$1.75." 12:37.000 --> 12:38.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Said, "Can't beat that," so I bought the poster, 12:38.700 --> 12:40.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and then he said, "Do you want him to sign it?" 12:40.900 --> 12:43.333 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% I was thinking him, 12:43.333 --> 12:46.333 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% the comic book artist that did, that did the poster. 12:46.333 --> 12:48.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% You know, he was famous, you know, Howard Chaykin. 12:48.166 --> 12:52.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So I said, "Okay, yeah, I'm cool." 12:52.266 --> 12:54.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And I took it over to the blonde kid, 12:54.800 --> 12:57.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and he wrote, "To Judith, 12:57.500 --> 13:00.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% love and best wishes, Mark Hamill." 13:00.733 --> 13:03.400 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Mark who? (laughs) 13:03.400 --> 13:05.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And I thought, "Oh, well, 13:05.100 --> 13:06.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% he must have something to do with the movie." 13:06.733 --> 13:10.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Duh, yeah! (laughs) (laughs) 13:10.033 --> 13:12.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So that's how I got it-- I know it's worth something. 13:12.566 --> 13:15.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So I kept it, tried to keep it in good shape. 13:15.266 --> 13:17.666 align:left position:32.5% line:71% size:57.5% What an amazing story-- that's, that's incredible. (laughs) 13:17.666 --> 13:20.333 align:left position:40% line:71% size:50% Although not really, not that surprising.... Yeah. 13:20.333 --> 13:22.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% ...the fact that you didn't actually know at the time 13:22.500 --> 13:23.900 align:left position:40% line:71% size:50% who Mark Hamill was. No, nobody knew. (laughs) 13:23.900 --> 13:25.100 align:left position:30% line:77% size:60% Nobody knew, yeah, yeah. Yeah. 13:25.100 --> 13:26.766 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% If it had been, maybe, Harrison Ford, 13:26.766 --> 13:29.266 align:left position:32.5% line:71% size:57.5% you might have heard... Well, if it had been Harrison Ford, 13:29.266 --> 13:30.966 align:left position:15% line:77% size:75% I would have paid attention. (both laugh) 13:30.966 --> 13:33.033 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% This poster from 1976... Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. 13:33.033 --> 13:34.166 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% ...is, is pretty cool, 13:34.166 --> 13:35.633 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% because it's actually 13:35.633 --> 13:38.033 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% the very first "Star Wars" poster, it's the advance poster, 13:38.033 --> 13:40.033 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% which came out before the movie came out... Right. 13:40.033 --> 13:42.266 align:left position:47.5% line:71% size:42.5% ...which came out the following year, in 1977. Yes. 13:42.266 --> 13:45.100 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% It's a very unusual poster in its own right. 13:45.100 --> 13:48.733 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% What makes it incredibly rare is the fact that you've got 13:48.733 --> 13:50.433 align:left position:25% line:77% size:65% Mark Hamill's signature... Hamill. 13:50.433 --> 13:52.000 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% ...just here. Right there. 13:52.000 --> 13:55.000 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Now, he's very difficult to get to sign these days. 13:55.000 --> 13:58.400 align:left position:17.5% line:71% size:72.5% He's not someone that readily gives out his signature. Right. 13:58.400 --> 14:00.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Which really elevates this piece in terms of value. Okay. 14:00.900 --> 14:02.600 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% So there's a couple of things here with the poster 14:02.600 --> 14:04.366 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% that we have to bear in mind. 14:04.366 --> 14:07.500 align:left position:17.5% line:71% size:72.5% You probably had it up on the wall, did you, at some point? Mm-hmm. 14:07.500 --> 14:08.700 align:left position:50% line:77% size:40% Because it's got some pinholes here. Yeah. 14:08.700 --> 14:10.266 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% So that does affect the value, 14:10.266 --> 14:11.833 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% because poster collectors want something 14:11.833 --> 14:13.533 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% that's in perfect condition. Right, that's pristine. 14:13.533 --> 14:17.966 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% However, I think the signature does make up for that, so... 14:17.966 --> 14:19.833 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Okay. ...if this were to appear at auction... 14:19.833 --> 14:21.866 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Okay. ...you'd probably be looking at 14:21.866 --> 14:24.466 align:left position:55% line:71% size:35% between $3,000 and $5,000. So about what I figured. 14:24.466 --> 14:28.100 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% But I think there's every chance that you could realize 14:28.100 --> 14:31.300 align:left position:32.5% line:71% size:57.5% more than that, because it's such an unusual item. Right. 14:31.300 --> 14:33.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% There would be very few of these posters that were actually 14:33.233 --> 14:34.533 align:left position:27.5% line:77% size:62.5% signed by Luke Skywalk... Right. 14:34.533 --> 14:36.133 align:left position:30% line:71% size:60% Sorry, by Mark Hamill... Right. 14:36.133 --> 14:38.166 align:left position:62.5% line:5% size:27.5% ...in 1976. Right. 14:43.866 --> 14:47.566 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% From our research, we've determined that this is 14:47.566 --> 14:51.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% a railroad track leveler, probably from 1930s, 14:51.900 --> 14:53.666 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% used mainly on curves. 14:53.666 --> 14:55.766 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% See how it's notched on the end there, 14:55.766 --> 14:57.566 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% so that you can go like this 14:57.566 --> 15:00.233 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% and get your right slope 15:00.233 --> 15:02.266 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% for the tracks. 15:05.333 --> 15:08.733 align:left position:75% line:77% size:15% GUEST: This was a piece at my great-aunt's house. 15:08.733 --> 15:10.433 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% APPRAISER: It was made by Dominick and Haff, 15:10.433 --> 15:13.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% H-A-F-F, and the reason why we know that 15:13.433 --> 15:15.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% is because it has this mark here. 15:15.900 --> 15:17.133 align:left position:72.5% line:77% size:17.5% Uh-huh. And they're a very, very big, 15:17.133 --> 15:18.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% very well-regarded New York firm. 15:18.866 --> 15:21.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Do you know what it is? 15:21.100 --> 15:23.233 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% You would know more than I would, Dad. 15:23.233 --> 15:24.933 align:left position:52.5% line:71% size:37.5% Do we know what it is? Sterling silver, I believe! 15:24.933 --> 15:26.033 align:left position:52.5% line:89% size:37.5% (both laughing) 15:26.033 --> 15:27.033 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% That's, that's as much as I know. 15:27.033 --> 15:28.033 align:left position:37.5% line:77% size:52.5% Hope so, yeah. I hope. 15:28.033 --> 15:29.300 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (all laughing) 15:29.300 --> 15:32.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It is, it is sterling silver-- it's a bread basket. 15:32.233 --> 15:33.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% You got this nice geometric design on it, 15:33.900 --> 15:36.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% wonderful flowers, 15:36.533 --> 15:38.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and it does have-- it's hefty. 15:38.566 --> 15:40.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I think if this could come up for auction, 15:40.500 --> 15:43.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% you'd probably be looking at somewhere between 15:43.000 --> 15:45.666 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% $2,500 and $3,500. Okay. 15:45.666 --> 15:48.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% But if you were thinking about retail, 15:48.000 --> 15:49.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% you'd have to ask something like 15:49.466 --> 15:51.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% $7,500 for it. 15:51.200 --> 15:52.666 align:left position:77.5% line:5% size:12.5% Okay. 15:55.466 --> 15:58.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% This, I believe, is called a candle table. 15:58.666 --> 16:01.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It, uh, came from a farm 16:01.066 --> 16:04.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that my grandfather purchased from the Watervliet Shakers. 16:04.666 --> 16:06.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And this is a deed following through, 16:06.600 --> 16:10.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% showing to my grandfather and then to my father. 16:10.066 --> 16:12.866 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% So what we have here is a wonderful 16:12.866 --> 16:14.133 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% Shaker candlestand 16:14.133 --> 16:16.900 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% made about the m, mid part of the 19th century. 16:16.900 --> 16:18.933 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% So sort of circa 1850. 16:18.933 --> 16:20.933 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% The Watervliet community 16:20.933 --> 16:22.433 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% of Shakers, which was a, 16:22.433 --> 16:24.666 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% you know, a, a religiously founded community, 16:24.666 --> 16:26.266 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% was one of the first 16:26.266 --> 16:30.233 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% communities of Shakers to start and come to the United States. 16:30.233 --> 16:33.100 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% And that's basically outside of Albany, New York. 16:33.100 --> 16:37.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Right. And they came as early as about 1775, 1776. 16:37.033 --> 16:39.300 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% What's really special about this 16:39.300 --> 16:41.200 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% is that you've got this line of descent 16:41.200 --> 16:43.266 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% from the, the farm property 16:43.266 --> 16:45.433 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% through the Shakers to your family. 16:45.433 --> 16:48.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Mm-hmm. There are certain Shaker communities that are known 16:48.266 --> 16:51.233 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% for producing Shaker furniture for commerce. 16:51.233 --> 16:54.766 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% The Watervliet Shakers w, were not known 16:54.766 --> 16:56.800 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% for producing furniture. 16:56.800 --> 17:02.366 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% And Watervliet-- any idea what their commerce was? 17:02.366 --> 17:03.633 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% Basically, seed production. 17:03.633 --> 17:06.366 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Maybe the first ones to sell packaged seed. 17:06.366 --> 17:07.866 align:left position:62.5% line:89% size:27.5% Absolutely. 17:07.866 --> 17:11.200 align:left position:30% line:71% size:60% The first sort of mass-produced seed producers... Okay. 17:11.200 --> 17:13.333 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% ...that sold it in the little packet envelopes. 17:13.333 --> 17:18.000 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% It's a wonderful, as you say, cherry wood candlestand. 17:18.000 --> 17:20.500 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% When I look at this wonderfully turned standard, 17:20.500 --> 17:23.766 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% I mean, l, look at the crazing of the surface. 17:23.766 --> 17:25.866 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% It's just sort of like an archaeological site 17:25.866 --> 17:28.533 align:left position:27.5% line:71% size:62.5% that hasn't been touched. (chuckles): Right. 17:28.533 --> 17:30.033 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% I mean, it, it's, it's awesome. 17:30.033 --> 17:34.533 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Before they put the top on, they put this iron band on, 17:34.533 --> 17:37.733 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% which was a way to hold this together 17:37.733 --> 17:40.266 align:left position:40% line:77% size:50% and prevent it from, from breaking apart. Okay. 17:40.266 --> 17:42.500 align:left position:62.5% line:83% size:27.5% Functional, beautiful craftsmanship. 17:42.500 --> 17:44.266 align:left position:67.5% line:83% size:22.5% It's just a terrific piece. 17:44.266 --> 17:46.233 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% If this were to come to auction, 17:46.233 --> 17:47.766 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% I would probably put an estimate 17:47.766 --> 17:49.600 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% of $2,000 to $4,000 on it. 17:49.600 --> 17:51.566 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Very good-- sounds great. 17:59.900 --> 18:02.533 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5% My grandfather worked 18:02.533 --> 18:05.866 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% with Theodore Roosevelt's brother-in-law. 18:05.866 --> 18:07.433 align:left position:25% line:71% size:65% Curtis gave the photograph 18:07.433 --> 18:08.733 align:left position:35% line:71% size:55% to Theodore Roosevelt, 18:08.733 --> 18:10.133 align:left position:15% line:71% size:75% gave it to his brother-in-law, 18:10.133 --> 18:12.366 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% and my grandfather worked in the same office, 18:12.366 --> 18:14.533 align:left position:22.5% line:71% size:67.5% and Mr. Robinson gave it to my grandfather. 18:14.533 --> 18:16.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% (chuckles): My mom wasn't a fan, 18:16.900 --> 18:18.000 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% and she kept it covered 18:18.000 --> 18:19.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% a lot with other pictures, so... Oh. 18:19.366 --> 18:20.900 align:left position:62.5% line:5% size:27.5% (chuckling) Oh, okay, okay, got it. 18:20.900 --> 18:23.566 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% (laughs): What do you know about the figure who's in the image? 18:23.566 --> 18:25.000 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% I know it's Red Hawk 18:25.000 --> 18:29.600 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and that he fought against Custer at Little Bighorn, 18:29.600 --> 18:33.666 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and he also fought with Crazy Horse against the U.S. Army. 18:33.666 --> 18:38.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% This is a very iconic, famous photograph by Edward Curtis. 18:38.800 --> 18:40.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It was taken in 1905. 18:40.133 --> 18:42.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% The title is "Oasis in the Badlands," 18:42.566 --> 18:45.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and it does depict Red Hawk, an important leader. 18:45.733 --> 18:48.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Red Hawk was a member of the Oglala Sioux tribe 18:48.833 --> 18:51.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% of what's now considered South Dakota. 18:51.100 --> 18:54.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% This image was made in the Badlands. 18:54.666 --> 18:56.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Curtis was very, and is very famous 18:56.400 --> 18:58.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% for photographing Native Americans. 18:58.700 --> 19:01.066 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% This was his life project. 19:01.066 --> 19:04.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He won a contest for the prettiest child in America, 19:04.900 --> 19:06.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and the picture was reproduced, 19:06.700 --> 19:08.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% which is how he came to the attention 19:08.300 --> 19:10.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% of Theodore Roosevelt, who is then president. 19:10.800 --> 19:14.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He visited Roosevelt, he photographed his children, 19:14.066 --> 19:16.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and then shared his idea for this 19:16.733 --> 19:18.333 align:left position:17.5% line:71% size:72.5% sort of monumental project 19:18.333 --> 19:20.666 align:left position:15% line:71% size:75% documenting Native Americans, 19:20.666 --> 19:22.666 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% not just in the Dakotas, 19:22.666 --> 19:24.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% but across the entire United States. 19:24.733 --> 19:27.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80%   Roosevelt said, "You should talk to J.P. Morgan," 19:27.633 --> 19:30.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% who ultimately funded this project. 19:30.533 --> 19:33.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Curtis's goal, his idea, 19:33.466 --> 19:36.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% was to document and preserve, uh, culture 19:36.766 --> 19:39.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that he felt was disappearing. 19:39.766 --> 19:44.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He's really known for portraits and for evoking 19:44.133 --> 19:45.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% this sense of nostalgia, 19:45.800 --> 19:48.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% romanticizing his subjects. 19:48.600 --> 19:51.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% This is a singular work. 19:51.433 --> 19:55.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% We don't usually see them this big, in this large-scale format, 19:55.533 --> 19:59.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and that is truly special and unusual. 19:59.933 --> 20:01.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% If this were to come in to auction, 20:01.066 --> 20:03.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I would put an estimate on the photograph 20:03.766 --> 20:06.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% at $30,000 to $40,000. 20:06.866 --> 20:08.300 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% Oh, wow. 20:08.300 --> 20:12.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Um, for a replacement value, I would suggest a value 20:12.000 --> 20:14.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% of $70,000. 20:14.333 --> 20:15.533 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% That's amazing. 20:15.533 --> 20:16.566 align:left position:35% line:77% size:55% (both laugh) Thank you. 20:16.566 --> 20:18.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Without that provenance, at auction, 20:18.866 --> 20:22.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I might have said $20,000 to $30,000. 20:24.900 --> 20:27.900 align:left position:45% line:5% size:45% PEÑA: "Roadshow" brought out the treasure hunters in Akron, Ohio, 20:27.900 --> 20:30.000 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% where the Stan Hywet Hall and Gardens 20:30.000 --> 20:32.166 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% was the perfect setting for our event. 20:32.166 --> 20:34.133 align:left position:35% line:71% size:55% Penny saved. 20:34.133 --> 20:35.500 align:left position:35% line:71% size:55%   That's the original socket. Uh-huh. 20:35.500 --> 20:37.066 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% A lot of times, people change it, 20:37.066 --> 20:39.333 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% but that's correct. 20:39.333 --> 20:41.766 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% Does anyone want to buy a duck? 20:41.766 --> 20:43.166 align:left position:72.5% line:77% size:17.5% It's... Not even one you can cook! 20:43.166 --> 20:44.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% (laughs) Right. 20:44.800 --> 20:46.400 align:left position:45% line:77% size:45% PEÑA: The wide range of art and objects 20:46.400 --> 20:48.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% that come into "Roadshow" never fails to fascinate. 20:48.766 --> 20:50.800 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% He's Gippy, the mannequin baby! 20:50.800 --> 20:53.166 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% He's from the '40s or the '50s. 20:53.166 --> 20:55.333 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% He's very precious to our family. 20:55.333 --> 20:58.766 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% He's been to family weddings, family funerals, 20:58.766 --> 21:02.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and now he's going to go to the "Antiques Roadshow"! 21:02.666 --> 21:03.800 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5% (chuckles) 21:03.800 --> 21:06.100 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% PEÑA: Check out this fascinating find. 21:06.100 --> 21:09.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% The item is actually a lavalier necklace 21:09.233 --> 21:10.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% that had belonged to my grandmother. 21:10.733 --> 21:14.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% My grandmother was an Army nurse at Walter Reed Hospital 21:14.066 --> 21:15.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% during World War I. 21:15.600 --> 21:18.366 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% After the war, she was a school nurse 21:18.366 --> 21:20.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% that met a local industrialist 21:20.866 --> 21:23.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% who owned a company that manufactured 21:23.600 --> 21:25.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% hearses and funeral cars. 21:25.300 --> 21:27.433 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% And they married in 1930. 21:27.433 --> 21:29.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% To be honest, I never saw it until 21:29.833 --> 21:32.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% after my mother died, about 25 years ago. 21:32.166 --> 21:36.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% But my grandmother wore it for formal occasions. 21:36.166 --> 21:39.266 align:left position:50% line:5% size:40% It is a stunning Art Deco piece of jewelry. 21:39.266 --> 21:41.766 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% It is sculptural. 21:41.766 --> 21:44.566 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% The outline is somewhat of a shield shape. 21:44.566 --> 21:46.566 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% And in the very center component, 21:46.566 --> 21:48.600 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% you've got square-cut diamonds 21:48.600 --> 21:50.700 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% that are step cuts, and they give the effect 21:50.700 --> 21:52.400 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% of one larger diamond. 21:52.400 --> 21:54.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% You've kind of hit this one out of the park. 21:54.366 --> 21:56.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Oh, well, thank you-- is, is it platinum? 21:56.566 --> 21:59.766 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% It is platinum-- it is sculpture in miniature. 21:59.766 --> 22:03.566 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% It really truly showcases Art Deco craftsmanship. 22:03.566 --> 22:06.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I did thoroughly examine the piece, 22:06.133 --> 22:08.633 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% but I didn't see any particular maker's mark, 22:08.633 --> 22:11.100 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% and that's not unusual. 22:11.100 --> 22:12.400 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% An auction estimate 22:12.400 --> 22:14.800 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% would be $3,000 to $4,000. 22:14.800 --> 22:15.933 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% Okay. 22:15.933 --> 22:17.400 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% If you were looking to insure it, 22:17.400 --> 22:19.366 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% I think you would be looking at 22:19.366 --> 22:21.000 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5% $6,000 or $7,000. 22:21.000 --> 22:23.333 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Wow-- wow, that's lovely. 22:23.333 --> 22:25.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Yeah. 22:30.366 --> 22:33.933 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% This is a Strand sled. 22:33.933 --> 22:35.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Strand Ski Company. 22:35.166 --> 22:36.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% We were cleaning out my cousin's estate, 22:36.533 --> 22:38.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and we found this in his garage, 22:38.133 --> 22:41.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and it had about three inches of dust on it, cleaned it up, 22:41.066 --> 22:42.700 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and then we realized the logo was on there, 22:42.700 --> 22:43.800 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and it was, like, "Whoa, how cool!" 22:43.800 --> 22:45.666 align:left position:60% line:5% size:30% INTERVIEWER: Do you ever try it out? 22:45.666 --> 22:46.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% No-- no. 22:48.900 --> 22:50.300 align:left position:75% line:77% size:15% GUEST: It's from my grandparents, I don't... 22:50.300 --> 22:51.900 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% I have no idea where they got it. 22:51.900 --> 22:56.133 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% Probably, uh, late 1800s on these. 22:56.133 --> 22:57.666 align:left position:60% line:5% size:30% Early 1900s. 22:57.666 --> 23:01.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% A lot of these had a butterfly at that time period. 23:01.233 --> 23:03.666 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% I guess the butterfly was pretty popular. Uh-huh. 23:03.666 --> 23:05.533 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% They weren't easy to make-- you see all these ribs? 23:05.533 --> 23:07.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% That's all individual pieces of wood. 23:07.900 --> 23:12.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Okay. These are some of the most undervalued instruments. 23:12.266 --> 23:15.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% It's amazing how much craftsmanship goes into 'em. 23:19.066 --> 23:21.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% GUEST: According to my grandmother, 23:21.066 --> 23:23.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% who wrote a little note about it, it is 23:23.866 --> 23:26.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% a prototype invention-- 23:26.366 --> 23:30.100 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% the first paper copier ever made. Okay. 23:30.100 --> 23:32.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% According to her note, 23:32.066 --> 23:33.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% it was done by Thomas Edison. 23:33.800 --> 23:36.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% My grandfather didn't get it to work at one time. 23:36.900 --> 23:41.200 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% It is in fact an Edison-invented item. 23:41.200 --> 23:42.600 align:left position:37.5% line:77% size:52.5% It's not a prototype, it's, it's... Mm-hmm. 23:42.600 --> 23:44.533 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% It's actually a production piece. 23:44.533 --> 23:47.533 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% It would have been made along with many others of its type, 23:47.533 --> 23:52.433 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and it was originally marketed as the autographic press. 23:52.433 --> 23:54.166 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% It's called an electric pen. Ah. 23:54.166 --> 23:56.200 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% But it technically isn't a pen in that, 23:56.200 --> 23:57.966 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% in that it writes with ink. 23:57.966 --> 24:02.400 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% It is a device which makes micro perforations in paper, 24:02.400 --> 24:04.033 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% and you would hold it like a pen. 24:04.033 --> 24:05.900 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% So let's say you wrote a letter in pen, right? 24:05.900 --> 24:08.900 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% You would take this device and write over it again. 24:08.900 --> 24:10.533 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% And as you wrote over it, 24:10.533 --> 24:13.566 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% following the lines of the writing, it would make 24:13.566 --> 24:16.566 align:left position:45% line:71% size:45% little micro perfs into the paper, okay? Uh-huh. 24:16.566 --> 24:19.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Once you finished that, you would take that piece of paper 24:19.166 --> 24:21.433 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% and you would take it to a special press 24:21.433 --> 24:23.533 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% where you would ink it, and it, it would, 24:23.533 --> 24:25.833 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% like a silk screen, it would press the ink through, 24:25.833 --> 24:29.400 align:left position:27.5% line:71% size:62.5% and voilà, you would have a copy of that letter. A copy! 24:29.400 --> 24:32.633 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% So it sounds crazy-complicated, right? And it kind of was. (chuckling) 24:32.633 --> 24:36.733 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% In its day, Edison claimed you could make up to 5,000 copies 24:36.733 --> 24:38.666 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% from one microperfed letter. 24:38.666 --> 24:42.800 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% A lot of them were sold, and the patent date was 1876. 24:42.800 --> 24:44.300 align:left position:17.5% line:77% size:72.5% They were sold to about 1880. Mm-hmm. 24:44.300 --> 24:46.400 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% And then what started happening was, 24:46.400 --> 24:49.566 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% a lot of other inventions came along where, "Hey, 24:49.566 --> 24:51.000 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% we can do it this way, we can do it that way." 24:51.000 --> 24:53.566 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And then there's this thing called the typewriter, 24:53.566 --> 24:55.833 align:left position:27.5% line:71% size:62.5% which also kind of really blockbusted the market... Yeah. 24:55.833 --> 24:57.400 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% ...and made this rather obsolete. 24:57.400 --> 25:00.200 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% The simple function of it is that there's an, 25:00.200 --> 25:02.466 align:left position:25% line:71% size:65% you have an electric motor here. Ah, uh-huh. 25:02.466 --> 25:05.133 align:left position:45% line:5% size:45% That, when powered by a wet cell battery, 25:05.133 --> 25:08.833 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% would rotate that wheel, which would drive a little, uh, cam 25:08.833 --> 25:11.200 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% that would push a needle in and out at a very rapid pace. Uh-huh. 25:11.200 --> 25:13.066 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% Have you ever had a tattoo? 25:13.066 --> 25:14.700 align:left position:17.5% line:71% size:72.5% Do you have a ta, any tattoos or any... (chuckles): No, I don't. 25:14.700 --> 25:17.066 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% Okay, so it's kind of like a tattoo needle. 25:17.066 --> 25:21.300 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% In 1891, an, an entrepreneurial New York tattoo artist 25:21.300 --> 25:22.933 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% looked at this design and said, 25:22.933 --> 25:25.066 align:left position:50% line:77% size:40% I can adapt that for tattooing. Tattooing! 25:25.066 --> 25:28.133 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% At auction, one like this, without all the other gizmos 25:28.133 --> 25:29.966 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% that I mentioned, would easily sell 25:29.966 --> 25:32.233 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% in the $10,000 to $15,000 range. 25:32.233 --> 25:35.066 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% Oh, my! (gasps) 25:35.066 --> 25:39.233 align:left position:37.5% line:77% size:52.5% (laughing): I can't, I can't believe-- my sisters and I recovered it 25:39.233 --> 25:41.800 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% from a ba, from my dad's basement! 25:41.800 --> 25:43.133 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% To me, it's beautiful, 25:43.133 --> 25:45.500 align:left position:42.5% line:5% size:47.5% and it's just a, a, an amazing little object. 25:45.500 --> 25:47.466 align:left position:52.5% line:5% size:37.5% And I love it-- it's a jewel. 25:49.633 --> 25:51.433 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% It was my grandparents' painting. 25:51.433 --> 25:53.566 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% My grandfather bought a house in Shaker Heights, 25:53.566 --> 25:54.833 align:left position:55% line:89% size:35% on South Park. 25:54.833 --> 25:56.266 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% It was a pretty big house. 25:56.266 --> 25:58.533 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% He got it on a foreclosure. 25:58.533 --> 26:00.833 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% My grandmother needed to put a lot of paintings 26:00.833 --> 26:02.400 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% on the walls, 'cause it was a big house. 26:02.400 --> 26:05.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So I think in the late '40s, she went-- early '50s-- 26:05.866 --> 26:07.266 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% she went shopping and bought 26:07.266 --> 26:08.433 align:left position:35% line:71% size:55% a whole bunch of different paintings. Mm-hmm. 26:08.433 --> 26:09.966 align:left position:22.5% line:71% size:67.5% A lot of 'em very nice. Mm-hmm. 26:09.966 --> 26:11.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%   This is one of 'em. 26:11.100 --> 26:12.566 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Any idea what she paid for it? No, no idea. 26:12.566 --> 26:14.333 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% After they passed away, 26:14.333 --> 26:16.233 align:left position:50% line:5% size:40% my one aunt came to own this painting. 26:16.233 --> 26:19.600 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% And then, uh, when she sold her house, uh, she gave it to me. 26:19.600 --> 26:21.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% When did it come to you? 26:21.333 --> 26:22.400 align:left position:42.5% line:5% size:47.5% Uh, just this year. 26:22.400 --> 26:24.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% So the work is by Edward Dufner. 26:24.533 --> 26:26.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Dufner was born in 1872, 26:26.300 --> 26:28.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and had a long and prolific life, 26:28.400 --> 26:30.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and died in 1957. 26:30.833 --> 26:34.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And Dufner grew up in and around Buffalo, New York. 26:34.400 --> 26:37.200 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% At the age of 15, he studied at the Buffalo Fine Arts Academy. 26:37.200 --> 26:39.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So he was very precocious in his youth, 26:39.233 --> 26:40.833 align:left position:25% line:71% size:65% and did so well there 26:40.833 --> 26:42.300 align:left position:22.5% line:71% size:67.5% that he actually earned 26:42.300 --> 26:44.066 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% an Albright scholarship. 26:44.066 --> 26:45.500 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And that scholarship allowed him 26:45.500 --> 26:46.700 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% to travel to New York City 26:46.700 --> 26:48.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% in 1893. 26:48.633 --> 26:50.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% There, he studied at the Art Students League, 26:50.700 --> 26:53.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% which is one of the prominent places 26:53.033 --> 26:56.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% for American artists to study at the end of the 19th century. 26:56.200 --> 26:59.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% After that, he went to the other important place to study, 26:59.433 --> 27:00.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% which is Paris. 27:00.900 --> 27:04.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Every American artist from the late 19th century, 27:04.233 --> 27:07.533 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% or virtually every, ends up going to Paris to study. 27:07.533 --> 27:09.633 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% It's to sort of get your street creds. 27:09.633 --> 27:10.933 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Everybody thinks much more of you, 27:10.933 --> 27:12.533 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and you can charge more for your paintings. 27:12.533 --> 27:14.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% He went to the Académie Julian, 27:14.300 --> 27:16.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and was actually overseas for about five years. 27:16.433 --> 27:18.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% And at that time, he also studied with Whistler. 27:18.966 --> 27:21.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% When he came back, he went first to Buffalo, 27:21.366 --> 27:25.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and his style was fairly Tonalist. 27:25.533 --> 27:28.100 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% And by about 1907, he was in New Jersey, 27:28.100 --> 27:30.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and his paintings started to change. 27:30.800 --> 27:34.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% He purportedly saw an exhibition of Willard Metcalf paintings, 27:34.833 --> 27:38.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% who painted bright, light, American Impressionist pictures. 27:38.600 --> 27:41.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And that's when his style changed to this. 27:41.400 --> 27:43.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Today, when we think of Dufner, 27:43.800 --> 27:45.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% this is the sort of style we think of. 27:45.500 --> 27:47.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% We think of light-filled and bright. 27:47.166 --> 27:49.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He became known as the painter of sunshine. 27:49.333 --> 27:51.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And this is the iconic subject matter. 27:51.266 --> 27:52.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% What people want 27:52.600 --> 27:56.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% are the images of young girls, maybe with a mother, 27:56.566 --> 27:59.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% sitting in dappled sunlight by the edge of a lake, 27:59.966 --> 28:02.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% maybe with swans or ducks 28:02.000 --> 28:03.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% swimming in the distance. 28:03.333 --> 28:05.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And, I mean, you have every single possible element. 28:05.833 --> 28:07.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He creates these beautiful oil paintings 28:07.733 --> 28:10.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% on canvas, as you're seeing here. 28:10.466 --> 28:13.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Uh, and this is a fairly large example. 28:13.233 --> 28:14.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Also going for it-- 28:14.466 --> 28:16.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% this is probably the original frame. 28:16.266 --> 28:19.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Probably this and the painting are from the early 1920s. 28:19.833 --> 28:20.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He really painted like this 28:20.966 --> 28:22.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% throughout the rest of his life. 28:22.433 --> 28:23.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And this is just what you look for 28:23.733 --> 28:26.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% when you, when you look for a Dufner. 28:26.100 --> 28:27.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% If I were to put this through at auction, 28:27.700 --> 28:32.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I would estimate it at $15,000 to $25,000. 28:32.266 --> 28:35.266 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% Okay, not bad. 28:35.266 --> 28:37.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% He did these quite a bit. 28:37.500 --> 28:39.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% They're eye candy, they're beautiful. 28:39.200 --> 28:41.666 align:left position:77.5% line:5% size:12.5% Yeah. So they were tremendously popular. 28:42.966 --> 28:45.433 align:left position:47.5% line:5% size:42.5% ♪ ♪ 28:45.433 --> 28:47.800 align:left position:45% line:5% size:45% PEÑA: Old Sturbridge Village became a town full of antiques 28:47.800 --> 28:49.866 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% and art collectors when "Roadshow" arrived. 28:49.866 --> 28:51.200 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% One question on everyone's mind, 28:51.200 --> 28:53.233 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% as treasures from all over the world 28:53.233 --> 28:54.500 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% come through the lines: 28:54.500 --> 28:55.866 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% "How did you get it?" 28:55.866 --> 28:57.800 align:left position:42.5% line:77% size:47.5% GUEST: I bought it from a, a fellow mason 28:57.800 --> 28:59.400 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% who was also an antique dealer. 28:59.400 --> 29:03.833 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GUEST: My grandparents had it ever since I was little; I'm 68. 29:03.833 --> 29:07.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I have a feeling it's appreciably older than that. 29:07.533 --> 29:09.933 align:left position:45% line:77% size:45% PEÑA: Another crucial question for our guests: 29:09.933 --> 29:11.566 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% what's it worth? 29:11.566 --> 29:13.366 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% Our experts have the answers. 29:14.866 --> 29:17.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I bought them to honor my mother. 29:17.233 --> 29:21.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% She had a big collection of art, various kind of arts. 29:21.633 --> 29:23.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% And one thing that she collected were jewels. 29:23.766 --> 29:27.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% These are, uh, jewels that she, uh, gave to me 29:27.000 --> 29:29.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% on various occasions in my life. 29:29.200 --> 29:32.666 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% Around Christmas time, she would actually give 29:32.666 --> 29:36.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% each woman in the family a gift. 29:36.566 --> 29:38.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And an example of that is the little flower 29:38.700 --> 29:40.733 align:left position:72.5% line:71% size:17.5% Mm-hmm. that came with various stones. 29:40.733 --> 29:42.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So each woman got a different stone. 29:42.933 --> 29:44.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% (chuckling): I got the diamond, 29:44.633 --> 29:46.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and I think that it may be 29:46.366 --> 29:48.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% from Van Cleef and Arpels. 29:48.333 --> 29:50.966 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% And indeed it is Van Cleef and Arpels. 29:50.966 --> 29:55.033 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% It is stamped "VCA" in the back with a stock number on it. 29:55.033 --> 29:58.400 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% They were scatter pins, and they would be set with 29:58.400 --> 30:01.766 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% diamond, emerald, sapphire and ruby. 30:01.766 --> 30:04.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's approaching between a carat and a carat and a half. 30:04.300 --> 30:06.233 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% Always very good color and clarity 30:06.233 --> 30:08.100 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% With Van Cleef and Arpels jewelry. 30:08.100 --> 30:10.066 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% These sweet little demure 30:10.066 --> 30:11.466 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% Van Cleef and Arpels flower brooches 30:11.466 --> 30:13.133 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% are just highly desirable. 30:13.133 --> 30:15.833 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% You're looking at anywhere at auction between 30:15.833 --> 30:18.933 align:left position:45% line:77% size:45% $2,500 and $3,500. Oui. 30:18.933 --> 30:21.566 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% The little kitty has a black onyx belly 30:21.566 --> 30:24.866 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% and a cabochon emerald eye 30:24.866 --> 30:27.566 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% that's stamped "VCA" on the back of its ear. 30:27.566 --> 30:29.400 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% Whimsical animals, 30:29.400 --> 30:33.000 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% and specifically cats, do great on auction. 30:33.000 --> 30:34.966 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% People are very passionate about cats. 30:34.966 --> 30:37.333 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% This one is going to be around circa 1950. 30:37.333 --> 30:38.566 align:left position:62.5% line:89% size:27.5% At auction, 30:38.566 --> 30:40.100 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% $2,000 to $3,000. And then we have these 30:40.100 --> 30:44.333 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% great Bombay turquoise and diamond earrings. 30:44.333 --> 30:46.433 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% Beautifully done, very wearable. 30:46.433 --> 30:49.500 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% And they are clip-ons, which would be apropos 30:49.500 --> 30:50.900 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% for the 1950s as well. 30:50.900 --> 30:52.133 align:left position:52.5% line:89% size:37.5% Made in France. 30:52.133 --> 30:54.766 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% A conservative estimate would be between 30:54.766 --> 30:56.466 align:left position:45% line:77% size:45% $6,000 and $8,000. Oh. 30:56.466 --> 30:57.466 align:left position:57.5% line:89% size:32.5% Conservative, 30:57.466 --> 30:59.166 align:left position:42.5% line:77% size:47.5% And that's auction. Okay. 30:59.166 --> 31:01.933 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% And then we have your little turquoise and diamond 31:01.933 --> 31:04.333 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% in 18-karat yellow gold strawberry. 31:04.333 --> 31:06.600 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% The total carat weight is going to be approximately 31:06.600 --> 31:09.100 align:left position:62.5% line:83% size:27.5% five carats on the top here. 31:09.100 --> 31:12.033 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% That does have signature on it. It's made in France. 31:12.033 --> 31:13.900 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% We would have to do a little bit more research on it 31:13.900 --> 31:16.166 align:left position:37.5% line:71% size:52.5% to find out who the maker was. Okay. 31:16.166 --> 31:17.566 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% But it is the same quality as the others. 31:17.566 --> 31:20.066 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% The strawberry is going to be anywhere between 31:20.066 --> 31:22.733 align:left position:45% line:77% size:45% $7,000 and $9,000. Oh, my goodness. 31:22.733 --> 31:24.700 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Yeah. So unexpected, yes. And it's a beautiful 31:24.700 --> 31:28.466 align:left position:37.5% line:71% size:52.5% turquoise circa 1950s jewelry collection. Yeah. 31:28.466 --> 31:29.900 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% I told you, my mom had great taste. 31:29.900 --> 31:31.333 align:left position:70% line:5% size:20% (laughs) 31:37.933 --> 31:40.300 align:left position:75% line:77% size:15% GUEST: I have a Civil War presentation sword 31:40.300 --> 31:43.166 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% I acquired in about 2010 from my grandmother. 31:43.166 --> 31:46.366 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% Gustavus Stanley was an officer, 31:46.366 --> 31:48.066 align:left position:67.5% line:83% size:22.5% fought in three different regiments, 31:48.066 --> 31:50.333 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% but the last one was the 2nd Cavalry, Maine. 31:50.333 --> 31:53.333 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% After his death, the sword and a lot of 31:53.333 --> 31:54.866 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5% the documents from the company 31:54.866 --> 31:57.066 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% were sent back home to my family in Maine, 31:57.066 --> 31:58.700 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% where it's been for years. 31:58.700 --> 32:00.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% So you brought us a 32:00.766 --> 32:03.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Civil War presentation cavalry officer saber. 32:03.800 --> 32:07.233 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% And it's a presentation to him by the, 32:07.233 --> 32:09.400 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% the men of Company F, 32:09.400 --> 32:10.933 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% 2nd Maine Cavalry. Yeah. 32:10.933 --> 32:12.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% He's in Illinois. 32:12.633 --> 32:15.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He joins the 8th Illinois Cavalry. 32:15.366 --> 32:17.700 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% He got scooped up by Lee's men 32:17.700 --> 32:19.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% May 5, 1862. 32:19.800 --> 32:22.500 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% So you'd think he'd go to a prison camp, right? Right. 32:22.500 --> 32:24.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% They didn't really have 32:24.600 --> 32:27.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% a good method of dealing with prisoners 32:27.066 --> 32:28.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% at the beginning of the Civil War. 32:28.700 --> 32:31.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% There was a system of parole, where essentially Yeah. 32:31.933 --> 32:33.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% you would swear to go home, 32:33.933 --> 32:35.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% behave yourself, 32:35.233 --> 32:37.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% don't take part in military activities, 32:37.066 --> 32:40.266 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% which made it a lot easier on both sides taking prisoners, 32:40.266 --> 32:42.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% because they didn't have to feed them and clothe them. 32:42.466 --> 32:44.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% So he goes home. 32:44.333 --> 32:46.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Home is in Maine. 32:46.466 --> 32:48.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So when he's called back to service, 32:48.066 --> 32:50.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% he ends up a captain in Company B, 32:50.433 --> 32:53.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% 28th Maine Infantry, they go down to the Gulf. 32:53.966 --> 32:56.300 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% He's captured again. (chuckles) 32:56.300 --> 32:58.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% So, he's in trouble again. 32:58.066 --> 33:02.166 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% He gets paroled, goes home, and comes back 33:02.166 --> 33:06.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% with 2nd Maine Cavalry in 1863. 33:06.000 --> 33:07.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Now, the sword itself. 33:07.566 --> 33:08.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It's beautiful. 33:08.900 --> 33:10.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It's in good condition. 33:10.100 --> 33:12.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% What we see here is 33:12.566 --> 33:17.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% a nice acid etch engraving on the blade. 33:17.100 --> 33:21.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% You have a federal eagle on the reverse side. 33:21.066 --> 33:24.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And we know that it is a German-made sword 33:24.800 --> 33:26.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% because the maker's mark on the ricasso 33:26.400 --> 33:31.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% is by the firm of Clauberg, out of Solingen, Germany. 33:31.266 --> 33:33.400 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% A retail price for this sword 33:33.400 --> 33:36.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% would be between $8,000 and $10,000. 33:36.033 --> 33:37.366 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% Oh, wow. 33:38.933 --> 33:40.433 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% Wow, that's great. 33:40.433 --> 33:42.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% This gentleman saw a lot of, 33:42.333 --> 33:43.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% a lot of Civil War service, 33:43.966 --> 33:45.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% but he couldn't quite seem to stay out of trouble. 33:45.866 --> 33:48.900 align:left position:60% line:5% size:30% (chuckling): No, he could not. 33:48.900 --> 33:51.833 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% This is a family heirloom from the 1800s. 33:51.833 --> 33:54.866 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% It's a Armenian walking suit, 33:54.866 --> 33:57.933 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% um, laced with natural saltwater pearls. 33:57.933 --> 34:00.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And you told me there were how many pearls on there? 34:00.133 --> 34:01.733 align:left position:57.5% line:89% size:32.5% About 50,000. 34:01.733 --> 34:03.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% You couldn't remake this piece, 34:03.200 --> 34:04.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% because you're not going to be able 34:04.300 --> 34:06.000 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% to find somebody who would sit down 34:06.000 --> 34:07.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and, and do this work. 34:07.266 --> 34:08.666 align:left position:77.5% line:71% size:12.5% Sure. 34:08.666 --> 34:09.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I mean, you couldn't pay them enough to do it. 34:09.866 --> 34:11.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% With regards to the value of the pearls 34:11.633 --> 34:13.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and the jacket, I'd say there are at least 34:13.133 --> 34:14.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% $20,000 worth of pearls. 34:14.966 --> 34:16.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% It's a wonderful thing, 34:16.200 --> 34:17.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and thank you very much for bringing it. 34:17.666 --> 34:20.066 align:left position:55% line:5% size:35% Oh, thank you. That's awesome. 34:20.066 --> 34:23.633 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% This is a Red Sox baseball bat from 1951. 34:23.633 --> 34:25.966 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% I got it as a gift from my godfather, 34:25.966 --> 34:27.300 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% who's Richard Donovan, 34:27.300 --> 34:30.133 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% and he was the bat boy. 34:30.133 --> 34:31.333 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% I got Ted Williams on there, 34:31.333 --> 34:33.166 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% and Johnny Pesky. 34:33.166 --> 34:35.933 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5% This bat had been 34:35.933 --> 34:38.033 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% in the coat closet at my aunt and uncle's house 34:38.033 --> 34:39.300 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% since we were kids. 34:39.300 --> 34:40.700 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% And when we'd go over, 34:40.700 --> 34:42.400 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% we would just, like, we'd play with it. 34:42.400 --> 34:45.066 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% My godfather just, he gave it to me as a gift. 34:45.066 --> 34:46.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Yeah. 34:46.366 --> 34:48.733 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% 'Cause, to be honest, I am the favorite. 34:48.733 --> 34:50.033 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% (laughs) Just, just saying. 34:50.033 --> 34:52.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% 1951, the Red Sox 34:52.400 --> 34:53.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% came in third in the American League. 34:53.866 --> 34:55.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% But they had some great players. 34:55.600 --> 34:57.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Namely this gentleman right here. Yeah. 34:57.600 --> 34:59.800 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% that's Ted Williams, of course. Yeah. 34:59.800 --> 35:03.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And Joe DiMaggio's brother, Dom, right here. 35:03.233 --> 35:06.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Johnny Pesky, all-time great. 35:06.133 --> 35:08.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Bobby Doerr, Hall of Famer. 35:08.266 --> 35:10.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% This is called a half bat. 35:10.400 --> 35:11.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% We're missing the end here, 35:11.733 --> 35:13.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% but that's probably because you guys 35:13.000 --> 35:14.500 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% were playing with it. Yeah, yeah. 35:14.500 --> 35:17.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And what baseball players would do is, traditional, 35:17.266 --> 35:19.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% they would cut the bat in half 35:19.333 --> 35:22.433 align:left position:77.5% line:77% size:12.5% Okay. and then each one of them 35:22.433 --> 35:25.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% would autograph it, including Johnny Pesky, 35:25.200 --> 35:29.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Ted Williams, Bobby Doerr, Don DiMaggio. 35:29.133 --> 35:30.300 align:left position:82.5% line:89% size:7.5% Mm. 35:30.300 --> 35:31.833 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% And generally, when they were given out, 35:31.833 --> 35:33.400 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% they were given out to teammates or, 35:33.400 --> 35:35.733 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% or friends of the family, if you will. 35:35.733 --> 35:36.900 align:left position:77.5% line:5% size:12.5% Sure. Which makes sense 35:36.900 --> 35:39.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% why your godfather would have it. 35:39.833 --> 35:41.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Very, very rare to find a half bat. 35:41.433 --> 35:44.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's in decent shape, other than the broken handle. 35:44.066 --> 35:45.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% The signatures are bold. 35:45.566 --> 35:47.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% If I were going to put an auction estimate, 35:47.800 --> 35:49.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I'd put it at $2,000 to $3,000. 35:49.733 --> 35:50.766 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% Great. 35:50.766 --> 35:52.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% This photograph is interesting, too. 35:52.066 --> 35:53.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% This was only given to people who were 35:53.666 --> 35:55.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% closely associated with the team. 35:55.500 --> 35:57.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% It's got condition issues. Right. 35:57.266 --> 35:59.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Even just like this, it's probably worth 35:59.500 --> 36:00.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% about $200 to $300. 36:00.700 --> 36:01.833 align:left position:42.5% line:77% size:47.5% Excellent. Yeah. 36:01.833 --> 36:03.133 align:left position:50% line:77% size:40% Nice. Yeah. 36:03.133 --> 36:04.300 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% Go Sox. 36:04.300 --> 36:06.366 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% (both laugh) 36:12.500 --> 36:16.066 align:left position:45% line:5% size:45% My grandfather was a colonel in the U.S. Army. 36:16.066 --> 36:18.800 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% And during the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia, 36:18.800 --> 36:23.300 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% he was given an assignment to go to Stockholm... 36:23.300 --> 36:25.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Mm-hmm. where he was going to be military attaché. 36:25.900 --> 36:29.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% When they got to St. Petersburg, the bullets were flying. 36:29.866 --> 36:33.033 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% But he grabbed the family, put my mother on his shoulders, 36:33.033 --> 36:34.266 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% and they ran, 36:34.266 --> 36:36.633 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% and they got to Stockholm eventually. 36:36.633 --> 36:38.700 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Mm-hmm. Once he got there, 36:38.700 --> 36:41.933 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% he learned that there were members of the Russian court 36:41.933 --> 36:43.833 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% that were trying to escape 36:43.833 --> 36:46.800 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50% because the monarchy was being killed. Mm-hmm. 36:46.800 --> 36:49.200 align:left position:62.5% line:5% size:27.5% So he said, "I can help them." 36:49.200 --> 36:52.166 align:left position:45% line:5% size:45% So he got in touch with the ladies in waiting, 36:52.166 --> 36:55.833 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and he did help them, but they took their hymns 36:55.833 --> 36:59.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and ripped the hymns up and produced some jewels. 36:59.200 --> 37:00.900 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5% And they said to him, 37:00.900 --> 37:03.200 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% "We would like to give them to you." 37:03.200 --> 37:06.833 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% And he said, "No, you're not going to give them to me. 37:06.833 --> 37:08.566 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% "I will pay you for them, 37:08.566 --> 37:11.166 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% and I will pay you better than they're worth." 37:11.166 --> 37:13.466 align:left position:65% line:83% size:25% And that's exactly what he did. 37:13.466 --> 37:15.400 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% And so we now have 37:15.400 --> 37:17.466 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% those jewels in our family. 37:17.466 --> 37:21.300 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% We have the receipt from the baroness who met with him. 37:21.300 --> 37:23.433 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% And the letter says that 37:23.433 --> 37:25.366 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% the baroness has received 37:25.366 --> 37:28.733 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% 3,700 kroner from my grandfather. 37:28.733 --> 37:33.033 align:left position:52.5% line:5% size:37.5% And the date is October 8, 1920. 37:33.033 --> 37:35.200 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% The ladies in waiting at the court, 37:35.200 --> 37:37.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% at the Imperial Court of Russia, 37:37.066 --> 37:38.500 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% are not servants. 37:38.500 --> 37:39.633 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% They're confidants 37:39.633 --> 37:42.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and secretaries, and, um... 37:42.533 --> 37:44.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% basically friends of the empress. 37:44.500 --> 37:45.933 align:left position:70% line:77% size:20% Exactly. So she might have been 37:45.933 --> 37:48.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% a baroness and a confidant to the empress... Mm-hmm. 37:48.733 --> 37:50.066 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% and maybe they were gifted Mm-hmm. 37:50.066 --> 37:51.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% by the empress to her. 37:51.633 --> 37:53.233 align:left position:72.5% line:77% size:17.5% Mm-hmm. In terms of their date, 37:53.233 --> 37:57.533 align:left position:77.5% line:71% size:12.5% Okay. they're between probably 1860 and 1880, give or take. 37:57.533 --> 38:00.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% We've got two fitted boxes from some retailer in Moscow. 38:00.933 --> 38:03.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% There are no marks on any of these pieces, 38:03.233 --> 38:05.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% But they're, however, um, indications 38:05.466 --> 38:07.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that it was of the sort of jewelry, 38:07.366 --> 38:10.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% clearly, th-that was worn in court settings 38:10.233 --> 38:13.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% because it's very fancy, very big and impressive. 38:13.300 --> 38:15.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% These pieces are silver-topped, 38:15.166 --> 38:18.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% set with mine-cut and cushion-cut diamonds 38:18.433 --> 38:20.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and carbuncle garnets. 38:20.166 --> 38:22.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% The garnets are large and very dark. 38:22.300 --> 38:23.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% They're hollowed out from behind, 38:23.900 --> 38:26.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and then they're backed onto polished yellow gold, 38:26.900 --> 38:30.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% so that you get a light, almost ruby-like color. 38:30.533 --> 38:32.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I see between 12 and 14 carats 38:32.700 --> 38:33.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% of old diamonds. 38:33.966 --> 38:36.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% And the garnets, of course, 38:36.533 --> 38:38.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% enhance it for color and, and light. 38:38.800 --> 38:40.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% But, most importantly, 38:40.700 --> 38:44.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% it's pre-revolutionary Russian court jewelry. 38:44.766 --> 38:46.800 align:left position:80% line:77% size:10% Mm. And in a retail setting, 38:46.800 --> 38:50.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I would see a price of $12,000 to $15,000... 38:50.400 --> 38:52.066 align:left position:45% line:77% size:45% Okay. ...on this collection. 38:52.066 --> 38:53.833 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% Nice, very nice. 38:53.833 --> 38:57.233 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% I would give it an insurance value of 38:57.233 --> 38:58.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% $18,000 to $24,000. 38:58.600 --> 38:59.766 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% Okay. 38:59.766 --> 39:01.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% It's terrific to see here. Oh, thank you. 39:01.566 --> 39:04.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% It's absolutely terrific to see here. Thank you so much. 39:05.933 --> 39:08.100 align:left position:47.5% line:5% size:42.5% ♪ ♪ 39:08.100 --> 39:11.100 align:left position:45% line:5% size:45% PEÑA: At the Alaska Native Heritage Center in Anchorage, 39:11.100 --> 39:14.366 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% "Antiques Roadshow" continued to do what we do best. 39:14.366 --> 39:15.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% This would have been made 39:15.966 --> 39:18.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% at the peak of the whaling craze. 39:18.766 --> 39:21.100 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% PEÑA: Discover hidden treasures, 39:21.100 --> 39:22.566 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% which included a bunch of works 39:22.566 --> 39:26.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% by public television's favorite art teacher, Bob Ross. 39:26.800 --> 39:28.966 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% One Bob Ross painting that stood out: 39:28.966 --> 39:31.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% a beautiful Alaskan scene of the northern lights. 39:33.100 --> 39:36.000 align:left position:75% line:77% size:15% GUEST: This painting was hanging in my parents' home, 39:36.000 --> 39:38.700 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% and we gained it at home in 2012 39:38.700 --> 39:41.000 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% and stuck it in the closet for four years. 39:41.000 --> 39:44.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% (chuckles) The Kenai Peninsula had a 39:44.500 --> 39:46.233 align:left position:50% line:5% size:40% 7.1. earthquake. 39:46.233 --> 39:47.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Wow. 39:47.233 --> 39:50.300 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% And we had a set of moose horns 39:50.300 --> 39:52.833 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% hanging above our bed. (laughs) 39:52.833 --> 39:56.200 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% And after the earthquake, we decided that... 39:56.200 --> 39:57.733 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% we're taking that down. 39:57.733 --> 39:59.800 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% The painting came out of the closet, 39:59.800 --> 40:01.266 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% and we hung it up. 40:01.266 --> 40:03.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So, did you know it was a Bob Ross painting 40:03.533 --> 40:05.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% when you put it into the closet? 40:05.100 --> 40:06.233 align:left position:52.5% line:89% size:37.5% No, we did not. 40:06.233 --> 40:08.500 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Mm-hmm. It was sometime after that, 40:08.500 --> 40:10.333 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5% we see the signature, 40:10.333 --> 40:13.233 align:left position:37.5% line:71% size:52.5% and we're like, "Wow, we got something here." Mm-hmm. 40:13.233 --> 40:16.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Bob Ross is a public television legend. 40:16.333 --> 40:18.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He taught so many people to not only to paint, 40:18.733 --> 40:20.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% but to enjoy painting. 40:20.033 --> 40:21.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He made it safe to make mistakes. 40:21.966 --> 40:24.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He was telling you, "Just, you know, do whatever you want." 40:24.866 --> 40:26.200 align:left position:82.5% line:77% size:7.5% Mm. Paint a little happy tree 40:26.200 --> 40:28.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% or a little, you know, happy cloud. (chuckles) 40:28.233 --> 40:29.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And it was so refreshing, 40:29.700 --> 40:31.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% because the other painting teachers 40:31.266 --> 40:33.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% were trying to teach you formal painting. 40:33.500 --> 40:36.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% This is an oil on canvas, 40:36.200 --> 40:38.066 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% and it's signed in the lower lefthand corner. 40:38.066 --> 40:39.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It says "Ross 79." 40:39.866 --> 40:43.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And it's painted with a technique we called wet on wet, 40:43.400 --> 40:45.866 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% and just add on layer on layer without letting it dry. 40:45.866 --> 40:47.933 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% It allows you to make a painting really quickly, 40:47.933 --> 40:49.866 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% and as Bob Ross did on his show, 40:49.866 --> 40:50.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% under half an hour, 40:50.966 --> 40:52.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% he could have an, an complete painting. 40:52.133 --> 40:54.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's been reported that Bob Ross painted 40:54.066 --> 40:57.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% over 30,000 paintings during his lifetime, 40:57.433 --> 40:59.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% which is a crazy number of paintings. 40:59.800 --> 41:02.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% In 1983, he started doing his "Joy of Painting" TV show. 41:02.933 --> 41:04.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% From that time forward, 41:04.566 --> 41:05.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% all the paintings he did 41:05.600 --> 41:07.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% were owned by the Bob Ross company. 41:07.600 --> 41:08.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% All of his previous paintings 41:08.700 --> 41:10.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% are on... kind of on the open market. 41:10.866 --> 41:13.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We don't see them that often in the lower 48 states. Mm, okay. 41:13.633 --> 41:15.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I would give an auction estimate for this painting 41:15.866 --> 41:18.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% of $15,000 to $20,000. 41:18.566 --> 41:20.100 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% Wow. 41:20.100 --> 41:22.700 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% That is amazing. 41:22.700 --> 41:24.466 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% That's incredible. 41:24.466 --> 41:28.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% $15,000 to $20,000 is a conservative estimate. 41:28.300 --> 41:31.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% For particularly good ones-- which this is-- 41:31.400 --> 41:33.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I could easily see 41:33.400 --> 41:35.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% it hitting $25,000, 41:35.100 --> 41:37.333 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% maybe even $30,000. (softly): Wow. 41:37.333 --> 41:40.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Yeah. That is... 41:40.166 --> 41:41.466 align:left position:57.5% line:5% size:32.5% unbelievable. 41:41.466 --> 41:44.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Isn't it crazy? That is crazy. 41:44.366 --> 41:47.366 align:left position:75% line:77% size:15% GUEST: We were just going for a walk up our street, 41:47.366 --> 41:49.100 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% and a few houses down, 41:49.100 --> 41:51.633 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% there was some items on the curb, 41:51.633 --> 41:55.133 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% and my husband said, "We'll get it on the way back," 41:55.133 --> 41:57.500 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And I said, "No, no! These plates are too nice." 41:57.500 --> 41:59.366 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% "Well, let's take them now." 41:59.366 --> 42:01.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% His name is Robert Mayokok. 42:01.666 --> 42:02.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% He is Alaskan Native. 42:02.700 --> 42:05.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% He pursued the traditional ways. 42:05.566 --> 42:08.733 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% And so all of these activities, 42:08.733 --> 42:12.000 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% he understood, he had participated in them. 42:12.000 --> 42:13.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% These are hand-painted. 42:13.066 --> 42:15.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He was a fairly prolific artist. 42:15.633 --> 42:17.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% If they showed up in an antique shop, 42:17.533 --> 42:19.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I think we could say a price on them 42:19.133 --> 42:21.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% of at least $50 or $60 each. 42:21.666 --> 42:23.266 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% Oh, wow. 42:23.266 --> 42:25.833 align:left position:70% line:5% size:20% Awesome. 42:25.833 --> 42:27.300 align:left position:65% line:5% size:25% Thank you. 42:28.366 --> 42:32.433 align:left position:42.5% line:77% size:47.5% GUEST: There was an auction for youth hockey in 1990s. 42:32.433 --> 42:34.033 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% I bought it for $100. 42:34.033 --> 42:36.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% He signed it, which I was told 42:36.866 --> 42:38.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% he rarely signs anything. 42:38.100 --> 42:40.000 align:left position:30% line:77% size:60% And you're a hockey mom? Yes. 42:40.000 --> 42:42.533 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% And we have Snoopy here with a hockey stick. 42:42.533 --> 42:43.800 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% This is a really nice, big, bold signature. 42:43.800 --> 42:44.966 align:left position:42.5% line:5% size:47.5% He did occasionally 42:44.966 --> 42:46.166 align:left position:47.5% line:5% size:42.5% take these prints 42:46.166 --> 42:47.833 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% and sign them for charities, 42:47.833 --> 42:49.100 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% but not that frequently. 42:49.100 --> 42:50.866 align:left position:60% line:83% size:30% And the most important distinction here 42:50.866 --> 42:51.900 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% is that this is a print. 42:51.900 --> 42:53.500 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% It's from a 1982 strip. 42:53.500 --> 42:54.700 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% If this were original, 42:54.700 --> 42:56.000 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% it would be worth quite a bit more. 42:56.000 --> 42:58.533 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% It's still probably an $800 to $1,200 piece. 42:58.533 --> 42:59.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Oh, okay, great. 42:59.933 --> 43:03.033 align:left position:52.5% line:5% size:37.5% You struck gold in Alaska here. Yeah. Great. 43:04.133 --> 43:06.433 align:left position:47.5% line:5% size:42.5% ♪ ♪ 43:07.333 --> 43:13.333 align:left position:75% line:77% size:15% GUEST: We have 17 Sheldon Jackson reindeer reports 43:13.333 --> 43:17.033 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% from 1893 to 1906. 43:17.033 --> 43:19.633 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% So this is just part of our collection. 43:19.633 --> 43:24.466 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% And because my grandfather was a reindeer herder 43:24.466 --> 43:27.066 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% and his name is in some of these books, 43:27.066 --> 43:30.066 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% that's... that was our interest in them. 43:30.066 --> 43:32.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I'm learning things in Alaska, 43:32.100 --> 43:34.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% never having come to Alaska before, 43:34.066 --> 43:36.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and I'm grateful to be here 43:36.766 --> 43:39.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and to, to learn about the reindeer. 43:39.533 --> 43:41.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I did not know that they were not indigenous 43:41.400 --> 43:44.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% to Alaska, they were introduced. 43:44.133 --> 43:47.266 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% The reindeer's cousin, the caribou, 43:47.266 --> 43:50.000 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% is indigenous to Alaska. 43:50.000 --> 43:51.900 align:left position:57.5% line:5% size:32.5% My ancestors, 43:51.900 --> 43:54.866 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% their main source of food, 43:54.866 --> 43:56.666 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% if you're on the coast, 43:56.666 --> 43:58.433 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% were sea mammals-- 43:58.433 --> 44:02.533 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% so whales, walrus, and seals. 44:02.533 --> 44:07.166 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% And now back in the 1800s, so many of them were 44:07.166 --> 44:10.166 align:left position:65% line:83% size:25% taken by-- in the whaling ships... 44:10.166 --> 44:12.333 align:left position:15% line:77% size:75% Yeah. ...around the world, and so, 44:12.333 --> 44:16.066 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% that left very little food for my ancestors. 44:16.066 --> 44:18.633 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% And Sheldon Jackson, 44:18.633 --> 44:22.666 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% the education agent, saw that. 44:22.666 --> 44:26.066 align:left position:47.5% line:5% size:42.5% He had heard that other countries were 44:26.066 --> 44:28.700 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% raising reindeer for food, 44:28.700 --> 44:30.233 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% and so he thought it would be good 44:30.233 --> 44:32.033 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% to try that in Alaska. 44:32.033 --> 44:34.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Yeah, and it was something that indigenous people in, 44:34.500 --> 44:39.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% in other parts of Siberia and other parts 44:39.300 --> 44:41.200 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% of Scandinavia did as well. Right. 44:41.200 --> 44:43.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% The books are so interesting, because they are, 44:43.833 --> 44:45.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% as they say on the title, 44:45.233 --> 44:47.400 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% reports of this program. 44:47.400 --> 44:51.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So, in addition to your grandfather's name, 44:51.066 --> 44:53.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% they have the names of all of the people 44:53.666 --> 44:54.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that were involved in the program, 44:54.833 --> 44:56.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and, of course, the numbers of animals 44:56.366 --> 44:58.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and then how the program was doing, which is, 44:58.700 --> 44:59.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% which is fascinating. 44:59.800 --> 45:02.400 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% Because they are reports for 45:02.400 --> 45:05.100 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% an ongoing government program, 45:05.100 --> 45:06.633 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% the only way you can really get them 45:06.633 --> 45:08.133 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% is in the original editions 45:08.133 --> 45:09.600 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80%   as they're coming out each year 45:09.600 --> 45:11.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% from the government printing office. 45:11.266 --> 45:13.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% There's photos in there, there are maps. 45:13.666 --> 45:15.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% We can look at a photo. 45:15.166 --> 45:18.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It does show milking reindeer. 45:18.933 --> 45:21.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% The female reindeer were only meant 45:21.833 --> 45:24.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% to be given to people in the community only. 45:24.566 --> 45:27.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% They wanted to keep the new tradition of herding 45:27.266 --> 45:29.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% among indigenous Alaskans. 45:29.266 --> 45:32.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% These books are important to you personally, 45:32.466 --> 45:35.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and it's also such an i... an interesting moment 45:35.300 --> 45:40.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% in the history of this very diverse place of Alaska. 45:40.100 --> 45:42.033 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% A lot of these, we bought 45:42.033 --> 45:43.266 align:left position:52.5% line:77% size:37.5% 40 years ago... Right. 45:43.266 --> 45:45.300 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% And we have no idea 45:45.300 --> 45:46.966 align:left position:30% line:77% size:60% what they're worth now. Yeah. 45:46.966 --> 45:49.733 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% The price range varied; 45:49.733 --> 45:52.266 align:left position:62.5% line:83% size:27.5% the average was about $50. 45:52.266 --> 45:53.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% What I see right now 45:53.666 --> 45:55.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% on the retail market is individual volumes 45:55.900 --> 45:56.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% selling for about, 45:56.966 --> 45:59.900 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% more like $100 to $200. Mm-hmm. 46:07.433 --> 46:10.700 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% I brought an antique presentation cane 46:10.700 --> 46:14.033 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% that was presented by my great-great-grandfather 46:14.033 --> 46:17.566 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% to his son in 1855 in Philadelphia. 46:17.566 --> 46:20.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It has a sterling silver cap 46:20.666 --> 46:24.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% where the presentation engraving has been placed, 46:24.366 --> 46:27.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and then this beautiful wood that is from 46:27.300 --> 46:29.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% the timbers of Independence Hall. 46:29.166 --> 46:32.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I think a conservative auction estimate would be 46:32.400 --> 46:35.766 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% $1,500 to $2,500. Mm-hmm. 46:35.766 --> 46:39.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And I would insure it for $10,000. 46:39.300 --> 46:40.633 align:left position:62.5% line:83% size:27.5% Oh, really? Mm-hmm. 46:40.633 --> 46:43.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And that's based on the fact that a similar cane, 46:43.700 --> 46:45.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% estimated at $1,000 to $2,000, 46:45.733 --> 46:49.733 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% sold for $11,000 in 2020. (laughs) 46:50.833 --> 46:53.133 align:left position:60% line:5% size:30% Okay, great. Thank you. 46:54.800 --> 46:56.666 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5% It is, I thought, 46:56.666 --> 46:59.566 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% the only sled left from the first Iditarod. 46:59.566 --> 47:02.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I'm one of only nine still alive from the first race. 47:02.266 --> 47:04.900 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% I found out later, my friend Dan Seavey 47:04.900 --> 47:07.433 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% has one in the museum in Seward. 47:07.433 --> 47:10.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% When was the first Iditarod race? 47:10.600 --> 47:13.900 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5% It begun in 1973, with the goal of 47:13.900 --> 47:16.466 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% getting the Iditarod Trail commemorated 47:16.466 --> 47:19.233 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% as part of the National Historic Trail system. 47:19.233 --> 47:21.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I found that the actual 47:21.300 --> 47:22.866 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% original Iditarod Trail 47:22.866 --> 47:25.633 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% was created largely during the gold rush years 47:25.633 --> 47:27.233 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% in the early 1900s? 47:27.233 --> 47:29.066 align:left position:60% line:83% size:30% Yes, it was. It was Seward 47:29.066 --> 47:31.600 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% to the gold rush town of Iditarod. 47:31.600 --> 47:35.400 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% There were trails coming in off of the Yukon from Nome 47:35.400 --> 47:38.100 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% and also from Fairbanks to Iditarod 47:38.100 --> 47:41.600 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% that all became part of the Iditarod Trail. 47:41.600 --> 47:45.933 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% That old trail had not been coursed for over a half century, 47:45.933 --> 47:49.366 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and it was just... had to be relocated 47:49.366 --> 47:52.666 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and recreated, and it was one monumental job. 47:52.666 --> 47:56.833 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Dog teams existed until, uh, the snowmobile came, 47:56.833 --> 47:58.733 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% and all of a sudden, almost overnight, 47:58.733 --> 48:00.700 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% where there were hundreds of thousands 48:00.700 --> 48:03.200 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% of sled dogs across the north, 48:03.200 --> 48:04.400 align:left position:60% line:83% size:30% within about a five-year stretch, 48:04.400 --> 48:05.600 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% there were almost none, 48:05.600 --> 48:07.466 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40% and we had to do something to save them. 48:07.466 --> 48:09.166 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% How did you build this sled? 48:09.166 --> 48:11.966 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35% The stanchions are hockey sticks. 48:11.966 --> 48:14.566 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% The rest of it's hickory, and it's all steamed and bent. 48:14.566 --> 48:15.900 align:left position:55% line:89% size:35% I designed it, 48:15.900 --> 48:18.266 align:left position:67.5% line:83% size:22.5% and I got three friends going, 48:18.266 --> 48:19.566 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5% and they worked day and day... and night 48:19.566 --> 48:21.733 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% for three days and nights 48:21.733 --> 48:23.100 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% without going to sleep 48:23.100 --> 48:25.000 align:left position:60% line:83% size:30% to finish it in time for the race. 48:25.000 --> 48:26.666 align:left position:22.5% line:77% size:67.5% It got me a thousand miles. S... 48:26.666 --> 48:29.000 align:left position:60% line:71% size:30% And this was my shelter as well... This... 48:29.000 --> 48:31.800 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% I'd jam my snowshoes in the snow... 48:31.800 --> 48:33.700 align:left position:22.5% line:77% size:67.5% Yeah. And put a canvas over it, 48:33.700 --> 48:34.766 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5% and I'd sleep inside. 48:34.766 --> 48:37.200 align:left position:30% line:77% size:60% No! Yeah, at 40, 50 below zero. 48:37.200 --> 48:38.466 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% Wow. And the dogs 48:38.466 --> 48:40.700 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% survive very well in lower temperatures. 48:40.700 --> 48:42.300 align:left position:60% line:71% size:30% Dogs... Yeah, they're... 30 to 50 degrees... 48:42.300 --> 48:43.733 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% The dogs are born to it. 48:43.733 --> 48:46.833 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% They were very well-furred back then, especially. 48:46.833 --> 48:49.200 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% How'd you know when the dogs are tired? 48:49.200 --> 48:51.033 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% You just get to know your dogs so well, 48:51.033 --> 48:52.866 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% you know pretty much what they can take. 48:52.866 --> 48:56.033 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% And I would stop every hour on the hour 48:56.033 --> 48:57.466 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% to check their feet. 48:57.466 --> 48:58.966 align:left position:55% line:5% size:35% And then about every three hours, 48:58.966 --> 49:02.300 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% I'd give them a snack, and, and a good meal 49:02.300 --> 49:05.166 align:left position:50% line:5% size:40% at the end of a, of a run. 49:05.166 --> 49:07.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% What was it like when you finished? 49:07.000 --> 49:08.433 align:left position:55% line:89% size:35% I was so high, 49:08.433 --> 49:11.000 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% knowing I was actually going to make Nome. 49:11.000 --> 49:14.233 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% My glacier goggles are fogging up. 49:14.233 --> 49:17.533 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% And I thought, "Okay, I'm this close to Nome. 49:17.533 --> 49:20.600 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% "I'm getting sunburned on my... on the left side of my face, 49:20.600 --> 49:23.333 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% "frostbitten on the right side, and I'm going snow-blind, 49:23.333 --> 49:26.133 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% but I don't care. I am gonna make Nome." 49:26.133 --> 49:27.333 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% And I got to Nome, 49:27.333 --> 49:28.800 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% and the whole town would turn out, 49:28.800 --> 49:31.100 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% the fire siren would sound, 49:31.100 --> 49:32.933 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% and the mayor would be there, 49:32.933 --> 49:34.566 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% and it was a hero's welcome 49:34.566 --> 49:35.966 align:left position:35% line:71% size:55% to everyone. 49:35.966 --> 49:39.566 align:left position:30% line:71% size:60% The whole north was just ignited. 49:39.566 --> 49:41.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% In the last 50 years, 49:41.033 --> 49:43.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% the sleds have gotten much more aerodynamic 49:43.766 --> 49:45.133 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% and not as homemade... (chuckling): No. 49:45.133 --> 49:47.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% much more professionally built, right? 49:47.133 --> 49:49.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% But we have this sled here. 49:49.700 --> 49:52.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And as far as I know, and you know, 49:52.966 --> 49:56.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% there's only one other sled that's extant from, 49:56.000 --> 49:57.433 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% from this race, right? Yes, yeah. 49:57.433 --> 49:58.666 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% In the museum. Yeah. 49:58.666 --> 50:00.966 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% We look at this as a milestone piece. 50:00.966 --> 50:03.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's from the first Iditarod. 50:03.800 --> 50:06.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% There's only one first Iditarod. 50:06.166 --> 50:07.200 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% Only one first race. 50:07.200 --> 50:09.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% An auction estimate on this would be 50:09.533 --> 50:12.000 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% somewhere in the $20,000 50:12.000 --> 50:14.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% to $30,000 range. 50:14.833 --> 50:16.600 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45% Wow. 50:16.600 --> 50:18.333 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% That's impressive. 50:18.333 --> 50:19.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I would insure it for 50:19.500 --> 50:21.766 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% at least $40,000. Okay. 50:21.766 --> 50:23.666 align:left position:60% line:5% size:30% Okay, that's good information, 50:23.666 --> 50:26.600 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50% that's very valuable information to have. 50:30.166 --> 50:32.366 align:left position:45% line:77% size:45% PEÑA: And now it's time for the "Roadshow" Feedback Booth. 50:32.366 --> 50:34.133 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% We have a Renaissance painting 50:34.133 --> 50:36.133 align:left position:47.5% line:5% size:42.5% from the 1780s... No. 50:36.133 --> 50:38.333 align:left position:50% line:5% size:40% From the 1880s. No. 50:38.333 --> 50:39.900 align:left position:52.5% line:5% size:37.5% From the 1980s. Yes. 50:39.900 --> 50:41.666 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% But it's worth about what we paid for. 50:41.666 --> 50:44.200 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% I'm a retired kindergarten first grade teacher. 50:44.200 --> 50:45.933 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% I took this to school every year 50:45.933 --> 50:47.566 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% to share with my students. 50:47.566 --> 50:49.166 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% And unfortunately, one year, 50:49.166 --> 50:51.433 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% one of my students knocked it off the table, 50:51.433 --> 50:53.366 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% hence the broken piece. 50:53.366 --> 50:55.966 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% My husband said that was the last time 50:55.966 --> 50:58.433 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% I was taking it to school. 50:58.433 --> 51:02.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% We brought these spears and an axe from the 18th century. 51:02.700 --> 51:04.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Not worth as much as I had hoped, 51:04.266 --> 51:05.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% but we had a great time, 51:05.700 --> 51:08.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and we didn't have to wait in any lines. 51:08.366 --> 51:09.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Everybody got out of our way, 51:09.466 --> 51:11.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% It was fun. (laughs) 51:11.033 --> 51:13.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% This is for all my friends here in northeastern Ohio, 51:13.166 --> 51:15.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I brought the-- that are still waiting for 51:15.133 --> 51:16.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% the Browns to go to a Super Bowl. 51:16.900 --> 51:20.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% I brought the 1964 championship game program, 51:20.566 --> 51:24.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% which I attended when I was in college in 1964, 51:24.133 --> 51:28.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% and also my Otto Graham and Dante Lavelli autographs. 51:28.633 --> 51:29.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% Go Browns. 51:29.866 --> 51:32.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% This was an ancient piece 51:32.000 --> 51:34.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% of the pyramids of Egypt, 51:34.033 --> 51:36.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% except it's not ancient. 51:36.000 --> 51:37.366 align:left position:65% line:5% size:25% (laughs) 51:37.366 --> 51:39.000 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% And it's not worth anything. 51:39.000 --> 51:40.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% (laughing): And it's not worth anything. 51:40.733 --> 51:44.400 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% I came with some diamonds from my grandmother, 51:44.400 --> 51:46.600 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% and they were appraised at market value. 51:46.600 --> 51:49.066 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% But, of course, they are always priceless. 51:49.066 --> 51:51.066 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% And, of course, everyone knows that 51:51.066 --> 51:53.300 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% diamonds are a girl's best friend. 51:53.300 --> 51:56.866 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% I brought St. Francis to the antique show. 51:56.866 --> 51:59.633 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% They think it's a couple hundred years old 51:59.633 --> 52:02.200 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50% and worth a couple hundred dollars. 52:02.200 --> 52:05.633 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% The poor guy, his halo fell off. 52:05.633 --> 52:07.200 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% It happens to the best of us; 52:07.200 --> 52:08.933 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% mine fell off years ago. 52:08.933 --> 52:10.733 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% As you can see by my shirt, 52:10.733 --> 52:13.366 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% I brought my entire family to the "Antiques Roadshow." 52:13.366 --> 52:14.966 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% I had a tremendous time 52:14.966 --> 52:17.433 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% getting my Grandpa Bud's World War II items appraised 52:17.433 --> 52:19.300 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% for up to $500. 52:19.300 --> 52:20.500 align:left position:45% line:5% size:45% PEÑA: Thanks for watching. 52:20.500 --> 52:23.200 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% See you next time on "Antiques Roadshow."