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- The City budget gap,
a new superintendent,
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and an update from the
legislature, tonight,
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I'm Eric Barnes with
The Daily Memphian,
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and thanks for joining us.
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I am joined tonight by a
roundtable of journalists
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talking about some of the
biggest stories of the week.
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Toby Sells, News
Editor, Memphis Flyer.
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Thanks for being here again.
- Thanks for having me, sir.
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- Julia Baker covers
criminal justice
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and public safety for us
at the Daily Memphian.
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Thanks for being here.
- Thank you.
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- Laura Testino is a reporter
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with Chalkbeat
covering education.
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Thanks very much for being here.
- Of course, thanks.
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- Along with Bill Dries,
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reporter with
The Daily Memphian.
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we'll start, we're
gonna try to cover
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a whole bunch of stuff.
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I think, let's start
though with the budget gap,
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and I'll go to you, Bill.
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Mayor Young this week said
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there's something like
a $30 million gap.
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He has talked about a
property tax increase.
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That follows, what,
a week or two ago
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where there was $10 million
that was found to not be funded.
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I don't know how to
say that accurately,
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but there was a
$10 million gap before that
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related to hiring in
the fire department
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and training and so on.
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So something like $40 million.
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That they covered with
the rainy day fund.
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But the $30 million,
do we know, is that,
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is that the scope of the gap?
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Do we know, where are we?
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- Mayor Young, in his
address that he did
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at Mount Vernon Baptist
Church in Westwood
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said it is at least $30 million.
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He is not saying at this point
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how many cents on the
tax rate that would be,
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because he will be doing
his best in his budget plan
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that he'll present to the City
Council this coming Tuesday,
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he will be trying
to find other ways
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to get that
$30 million figure down.
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How many pennies that
is on the tax rate
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depends on the calculation.
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For the current fiscal year,
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each cent on the
property tax rate
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produces $1.4 million
in revenue.
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So that's how the
calculations are done.
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What's the revenue you
get from one penny,
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and then you start figuring
out how many pennies you need
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to get to $30 million,
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or the administration's
hope here
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is that it can be
something less than that,
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or that it can be combined,
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a tax hike and some budget
cuts or realignment.
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- And the gap comes from,
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this budget gap comes from what?
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- The budget gap comes
from several sources.
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First of all,
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all of the Federal American
Rescue Plan Act funding
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that the city and county
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and numerous local
governments have relied on
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for several years now
is coming to an end
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at the end of December,
which is right in the middle
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of the next fiscal
year that's coming up
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because the fiscal year
starts on July 1st.
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Also, the city is expecting
that its annual contribution
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to pension liability
will be going up
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in the next fiscal year.
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So that money has to be
accounted for as well.
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Put those two together
and some other factors,
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and you've got at
least $30 million
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in the mayor's own words.
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- And we've been many years now
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without a property tax increase.
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- More than eight years.
- Yeah, yeah.
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This also comes as we
have a new superintendent
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for Memphis-Shelby
County Schools,
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and Laura Feagins, and she is,
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came out and asked
for $25 million
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to support capital
improvements at the city,
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sorry, Memphis-Shelby
County School System.
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I still struggle with the name.
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A lot of people
kind of lose track,
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and they'll say to me
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that they assume the
City of Memphis funds
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the Memphis-Shelby
County School system.
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It has not since
those early years
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of Behind the Headlines.
- 2008.
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- Yes, when Bill and I
covered that story so much
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that people stopped me
in the grocery store
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and said, stop talking about it,
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but the city has not funded,
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has been a regular funder of
the system in all that time.
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But go to you, Laura.
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It was a bold move.
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There's $100 million in stuff
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of like electricity and
foundations and HVAC,
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and she's asking Mayor
Young for $25 million,
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that would be $25 million
over and above
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this $30 million gap
we're talking about.
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- And it would probably
be capital funding.
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- Yeah, capital funding.
- Which is different
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than funding that's generated
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out of the tax rate in
the City General Fund.
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- Fair enough.
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Let's talk about that ask.
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Did that surprise you?
- That's right.
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No, I don't think it's
totally an unexpected ask.
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What we know about the
district and Dr. Feagins
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is that she's
continuing down the road
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that previous Interim
Superintendent Tony Williams did
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of gathering county,
city, and other leaders
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across Memphis and Shelby County
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to create an infrastructure plan
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that the district
wants ultimately
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to drive potential
new redevelopments
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so that they're
not doing closures
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that lead to blight
in communities, right?
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They don't, they want
more of the exciting stuff
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that's happening in Melrose
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and less of what was
happening in Melrose
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before the new library.
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And so last year, we know
that at the County Commission,
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the district did
not receive funding
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for deferred maintenance.
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The capital funds that
they got approved for
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were all for new buildings
within the district.
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And so the district has been
saying really since the fall
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that they're seeking
additional funds
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from federal and city government
for this capital plan.
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And even took a look
back at my notes
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from Mayor Young's
campaign back in October,
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very clearly was, you know,
said that this would be a way
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that the city could in
the future support it.
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Of course, we don't know if
that's in the budget as of yet,
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as The Daily
Memphian has reported,
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but we do know that the district
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is very clearly wanting
to set forward on,
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you know, really spending
a lot on its infrastructure
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right now to rightsize the
district in a new plan.
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- We'll come back.
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The new superintendent
is, what, two weeks?
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Two and a half weeks into
the job as we sit here.
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We'll talk some more about that,
but I wanna go over to Julia.
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We'll kind of bounce
around a bit tonight
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and talk about a whole lot of
things going on in your beat
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and in public safety,
criminal justice.
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Maybe we start with some of
the things going on locally,
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and that'll segue
into some things,
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a lot that's going
on at the state.
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I guess we start
on a better note.
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I don't wanna say
it's a great note,
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but that crime, the first
quarter crime stats came out.
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Overall crime was down 14%
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compared to the first
quarter of 2023.
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Violent crime down 10%,
property crime down 22%,
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all compared to 2023,
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but still elevated compared
to say 2021 or 2020,
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you know, COVID, and
the depth of COVID.
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What else is going on?
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There's so many things,
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and maybe we talk
about the tragic death
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of the Officer McKinney and
where things stand with that.
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- Yeah, you know, remains to
be seen what the cause of the,
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you know, the
decrease in crime is.
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You know, we have a new mayor,
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new City Council
with fresh ideas.
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That could certainly
be part of it,
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but crime is
definitely not gone.
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As we saw with the death
of Officer Joseph McKinney.
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One of the suspects
in that case is dead.
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And he had been
released out of jail
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for a previous crime, you know,
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released on his
own recognizance.
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So obviously, you know,
that's an indication
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that crime's not gone.
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But yesterday we found
out that Officer McKinney
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was shot by friendly fire.
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I'm assuming one of his
partners mistakenly shot him.
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So, you know, Chief Davis
said in a statement yesterday
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that, you know, although it
wasn't one of the suspects who,
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you know, shot him,
it was, you know,
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the cause of his death.
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- In the sense they're saying
08:12.124 --> 08:15.228 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
that the young men in
the car shot first.
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It gets into the whole notion
that the young man who died,
08:21.634 --> 08:24.237 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
who was released gets into
a thing we've talked about
08:24.237 --> 08:26.138 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
a ton on this show and
that is a heavy issue
08:26.138 --> 08:27.607 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
up at the legislature right now.
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And I'll just walk
through real quickly
08:29.442 --> 08:31.844 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
some of the things that had
been changed at the legislature.
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There's more that could happen.
08:33.312 --> 08:34.747 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
Most of the laws and rules,
08:34.747 --> 08:35.982 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and we've talked about
this at the table,
08:35.982 --> 08:38.718 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
about how bail and
who is released,
08:38.718 --> 08:40.019 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
that's really set at the state
08:40.019 --> 08:42.388 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
with a lot of discretion
from the DA's Office,
08:42.388 --> 08:44.490 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
from the judicial
commissioners and the judges.
08:44.490 --> 08:46.459 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
A lot of what's happening
up at the state is probably,
08:46.459 --> 08:49.729 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
I think, summarized as
reigning in that discretion.
08:49.729 --> 08:52.765 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
So the ability to pay
is no longer considered
08:52.765 --> 08:55.268 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5%
when setting bail.
08:55.268 --> 08:57.270 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
That's been a very controversial
thing for a lot of people.
08:57.270 --> 08:59.238 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
There's probably gonna be
some lawsuits and challenges
08:59.238 --> 09:00.840 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
on that on the federal level.
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I think those setting
bail and judges,
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if I have this right, are
09:04.577 --> 09:06.512 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
now have to consider the
safety of the community
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in terms of who gets released.
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There's also I
believe this passed,
09:10.983 --> 09:13.719 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
bail that would fine parents
of delinquent juveniles,
09:13.719 --> 09:16.556 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
in some way trying to
hold them accountable for
09:16.556 --> 09:18.491 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
or fine them for
delinquent juveniles.
09:18.491 --> 09:20.192 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
What else have I missed
from the legislature
09:20.192 --> 09:22.261 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
that has this kind of
really big influence
09:22.261 --> 09:25.097 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
on how the judges and judicial
commissioners and DAs work?
09:25.097 --> 09:29.635 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
- Right, so yeah, you've
got the, you know,
09:29.635 --> 09:31.871 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
where judicial commissioners
cannot consider
09:31.871 --> 09:33.639 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
the defendant's ability to pay.
09:33.639 --> 09:36.475 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
So the parent accountability,
09:36.475 --> 09:39.178 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
Parental Accountability Act
09:39.178 --> 09:41.080 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
would charge a parent $1,000
09:41.080 --> 09:43.649 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
or make them, you know,
do community service
09:43.649 --> 09:45.451 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
if their child is charged
with a delinquent act.
09:45.451 --> 09:48.821 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
That is actually up
in the House today.
09:48.821 --> 09:51.157 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
So by the time this episode
goes out, we'll see, you know,
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where that has gone.
09:52.658 --> 09:56.295 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Also, blended sentencing
is up today as well.
09:56.295 --> 09:59.999 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
It passed in the Senate a
couple weeks ago, so we'll see.
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- Blended sentencing is a
proposal we've talked about here
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that's pretty widely supported.
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Not totally, nothing
is totally supported,
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but right now, the choice
that DAs have to make
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you know, to either try
a juvenile as a juvenile
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or as an adult, that comes with
a whole lot of consequences
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that in some cases, people
on many sides of this issue
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have said, look, we
need a middle space
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where we have a little bit
more authority and tracking.
10:27.159 --> 10:29.695 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
We don't want the record to
be just completely expunged
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for every 18 year old,
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but we also don't wanna take
certain lesser offenses,
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and I'm not talking
about the McKinney case,
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but lesser offenses and put
this person in the adult system.
10:39.639 --> 10:42.041 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
And so this has been
pretty widely supported.
10:42.041 --> 10:43.342 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5%
Fair enough to say?
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- Yep, it's received
bipartisan support.
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So, you know, it seems
it could pass today,
10:48.848 --> 10:50.216 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
but, we'll see.
10:50.216 --> 10:52.585 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
- Let me, before,
I'm gonna bring Toby in
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on some of this
legislative stuff,
10:53.819 --> 10:56.922 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
but one thing that we did a
story Ian Round on our staff
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did a story about guns,
gun legislation and gun,
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some level of gun restrictions
are widely supported.
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The polls show, in Memphis,
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specifically in Shelby
County, really statewide.
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A number of groups have done,
asked questions about this.
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But so far this session, stalled
bills include red flag laws
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banning high capacity
magazines and assault rifles,
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repeal of permitless carry.
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There was a bill to
enhance or, you know,
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tighten the storage
requirements around guns.
11:24.016 --> 11:25.284 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
All that have stalled.
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And in terms of failing,
there was a proposal
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that permits would be
required in Shelby County,
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more liability
insurance around guns.
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Again, a ban on assault weapons,
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increased penalties
for stealing guns.
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Those have all been,
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have failed in this
legislative session.
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I dunno if you want to
touch on those, Toby,
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or move in some other
legislative stuff about,
11:42.168 --> 11:43.469 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
that you guys
have been covering.
11:43.469 --> 11:45.971 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
- Sure, on guns,
guns are here to stay.
11:45.971 --> 11:50.576 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
The GOP super majority we have
in Nashville right now is,
11:50.576 --> 11:52.311 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
they are pro-gun all the way.
11:52.311 --> 11:53.946 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
Even a special session
of the legislature
11:53.946 --> 11:57.950 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
called by GOP Governor
Bill Lee last year
11:57.950 --> 11:59.819 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
yielded very little results.
11:59.819 --> 12:01.854 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
And it seems like the
harder that other folks
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are trying to hit
this legislature
12:03.489 --> 12:05.925 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
with some laws on guns,
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the harder they push
back and say, no,
12:07.460 --> 12:09.962 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
we're actually going to
make the laws looser.
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That has no support from
law enforcement officials
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across the state.
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You know, so if you look
at a poll from Memphis,
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those folks, our
lawmakers up there,
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they do not care
what those polls say.
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They're gonna do what
they're gonna do.
12:21.273 --> 12:24.510 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
And to me, their
motivations are mysterious.
12:24.510 --> 12:26.045 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5%
I have no idea why,
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you know, they don't
want to push on guns.
12:29.081 --> 12:31.117 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
You could read the
handwriting on the wall there,
12:31.117 --> 12:33.085 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5%
but not very sure.
12:33.085 --> 12:35.688 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
I know we're right now,
a bill is still up to
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I think about arming
teachers in the classrooms
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as a safety measure,
which is mind boggling.
12:42.294 --> 12:45.865 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
But there's a lot of things
going on with the legislature
12:45.865 --> 12:48.067 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
who continues to
override the things
12:48.067 --> 12:50.269 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
that we want to do in Shelby
County and all the big cities
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and every cities here
and on money bail.
12:54.306 --> 12:57.510 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
You talk to criminal advocates,
justice reform advocates.
12:57.510 --> 13:00.513 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
They say the money bail reform
13:00.513 --> 13:02.348 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
was really just
following state law.
13:02.348 --> 13:04.517 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
And then when we got a
new state law on that,
13:04.517 --> 13:06.385 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
The Daily Memphian
reported Wednesday morning,
13:06.385 --> 13:08.254 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
Thursday morning
13:08.254 --> 13:10.823 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
that when Jaylen
Lobley was sentenced,
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Chris Ingram was just
following state law on that.
13:13.726 --> 13:16.395 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
- Chris Ingram being the
judicial commissioner
13:16.395 --> 13:18.564 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
who released Jaylen,
13:18.564 --> 13:22.268 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
the young man killed
in the McKinney case.
13:22.268 --> 13:23.669 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
Released on his
own recognizance
13:23.669 --> 13:25.504 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
by the judicial
commissioner Chris Ingram.
13:25.504 --> 13:27.173 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
- Exactly, then you
have lawmakers saying,
13:27.173 --> 13:30.309 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
well, you know, you needed to
use some common sense on how
13:30.309 --> 13:33.212 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
you use that law, but at the end
of the day, you're a lawmaker.
13:33.212 --> 13:35.247 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
This is your product
that we are using
13:35.247 --> 13:36.882 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
in our communities here.
13:36.882 --> 13:39.885 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
So, you know, tighten it up,
that's what you do in Nashville.
13:39.885 --> 13:41.854 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Give us a law that
you want us to follow.
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- You wanna touch on
the arming teachers?
13:44.089 --> 13:46.192 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
I mean, I can't remember,
13:46.192 --> 13:48.327 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
but I think I read, in probably
an article in Chalkbeat
13:48.327 --> 13:49.762 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
that you wrote.
13:49.762 --> 13:51.530 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
I don't think that the
unions and the folks,
13:51.530 --> 13:53.299 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
the teachers are
particularly in favor
13:53.299 --> 13:56.035 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
of this arming the
teacher's proposal.
13:56.035 --> 13:57.636 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
- Many teachers are not.
13:57.636 --> 14:00.806 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
What this proposal would allow,
14:00.806 --> 14:02.608 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
and I'm gonna rely
on the expertise
14:02.608 --> 14:05.744 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
of my colleague in Nashville,
Marta Aldrich here,
14:05.744 --> 14:10.349 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
would be for school staff
to also consider, you know,
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following the measures that
the legislation lays out
14:12.952 --> 14:16.255 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
to carry a gun onto school.
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And so that would, you know,
14:17.489 --> 14:22.228 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
could look like anything
from a bus driver
14:22.228 --> 14:24.630 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
that works for the
district to a principal.
14:24.630 --> 14:25.898 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5%
- Wow.
14:25.898 --> 14:27.299 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
- Being inclusive in
school staff there.
14:27.299 --> 14:29.201 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
And so it wouldn't
necessarily just be teachers,
14:29.201 --> 14:32.304 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
but that still has one more
chamber to make it out of
14:32.304 --> 14:33.839 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
as of Thursday.
14:33.839 --> 14:35.975 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
- Let's stay with crime, and
then we'll move on, I think,
14:35.975 --> 14:37.476 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
but coming back to you, Julia,
14:37.476 --> 14:40.012 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
some other things up at
the legislature there.
14:40.012 --> 14:42.114 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
I believe a law was
passed that would,
14:42.114 --> 14:44.650 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
this gets, I can say this
as a double negative,
14:44.650 --> 14:46.585 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
that would stop municipalities
14:46.585 --> 14:49.121 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
from banning pre-textual stops.
14:49.121 --> 14:50.522 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
It was a controversial thing.
14:50.522 --> 14:52.791 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
It does go back in no
small part to Tyre Nichols
14:52.791 --> 14:55.327 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
who was, there was a
clearly pre-textual stop
14:55.327 --> 14:57.329 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
going on there and
that whole tragedy.
14:57.329 --> 14:59.832 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
The City Council
wanted to stop that,
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but state law allowed it.
15:01.200 --> 15:02.968 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
This one just clarifies
that you can't even pass,
15:02.968 --> 15:04.703 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
the city or county
can't pass a law
15:04.703 --> 15:06.538 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
that says you can ban
pre-textual stops.
15:06.538 --> 15:07.973 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
Pre-textual stops include people
15:07.973 --> 15:09.575 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
who are maybe
driving erratically,
15:09.575 --> 15:13.078 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
missing a taillight, missing
a, you know, a expired tag,
15:13.078 --> 15:15.414 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and then you find
guns or you find drugs
15:15.414 --> 15:17.950 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
or you find some kind
of, that passed as well.
15:17.950 --> 15:19.351 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
Is that correct?
- It did.
15:19.351 --> 15:22.788 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
It was signed by the governor
a couple of weeks ago.
15:22.788 --> 15:24.823 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
It's currently in effect.
15:24.823 --> 15:27.593 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
So right now that
local ordinance
15:27.593 --> 15:28.961 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
is completely nullified,
15:28.961 --> 15:31.030 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
and local police officers
15:31.030 --> 15:33.899 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
can pull people over
for things like that.
15:33.899 --> 15:35.634 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
There was a question
as to whether
15:35.634 --> 15:36.936 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
they were following that.
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We heard, you know, mixed,
you know, perspectives
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from leaders like Mayor Young
15:43.776 --> 15:46.278 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
who said he was
going to enforce it.
15:46.278 --> 15:48.247 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
Chief Davis said she had
already been enforcing it,
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but we heard, you know,
otherwise from other sources.
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- Also there's, it looks
like there'll be a study
15:54.086 --> 15:55.587 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
of a crime lab for Memphis.
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A lot of Memphis legislators
and local law enforcement
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and elected officials would
like to have a crime lab here.
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And there's still
unclear whether the state
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will reduce the
number of judges that,
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by two, that Shelby
County has that still
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kind of in process.
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- Yeah.
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- Anything else I missed?
16:12.538 --> 16:13.739 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
Maybe I'll get Bill in here.
16:13.739 --> 16:15.007 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
Anything I missed
on public safety?
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I mean, there are a
lot going on there,
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but any thoughts as we move on?
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- On the August ballot,
there is still this question,
16:21.347 --> 16:23.182 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
there is still this
charter amendment
16:23.182 --> 16:25.484 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
that Memphis voters
are going to vote on
16:25.484 --> 16:29.355 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
that would, despite
what the state has done,
16:29.355 --> 16:32.958 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
would say, no, there are
gonna be different gun laws
16:32.958 --> 16:34.259 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
in Shelby County,
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and there are gonna be
permit requirements,
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and you're not gonna be allowed,
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or you're gonna pay a penalty
16:39.865 --> 16:43.836 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
if you leave your gun in
your car, and it gets stolen.
16:43.836 --> 16:45.504 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
So there's a showdown
16:45.504 --> 16:47.940 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
beyond what the
legislature has passed.
16:47.940 --> 16:50.743 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
And on the question
of pre-textual stops,
16:50.743 --> 16:54.580 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
the legislature really
hasn't resolved a conflict
16:54.580 --> 16:57.916 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
between state law
and local ordinances
16:57.916 --> 17:00.152 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
that has been in
place for some time
17:00.152 --> 17:03.155 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
in terms of traffic offenses.
17:03.155 --> 17:05.457 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
And the question is still open
17:05.457 --> 17:10.029 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
on whether cities and
police chiefs in particular
17:10.029 --> 17:12.831 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
can do what they do every day
17:12.831 --> 17:14.933 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
as a matter of normal
course of business.
17:14.933 --> 17:17.770 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
And that is say, these
are the priorities
17:17.770 --> 17:22.107 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
we want you to enforce if
you are a police officer.
17:22.107 --> 17:27.112 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
We want you to spend your
time doing this and not this.
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So, I think we're gonna
see a lot more discussion
17:34.053 --> 17:36.255 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
and a lot more pushback
17:36.255 --> 17:39.258 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
in terms of pre-textual
stops in particular.
17:39.258 --> 17:40.893 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
- We'll move on, but
stay at the legislature
17:40.893 --> 17:42.261 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
and come back to you, Toby,
17:42.261 --> 17:45.931 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
a recent cover story
y'all did on reparations,
17:45.931 --> 17:47.266 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
and you've done a number,
17:47.266 --> 17:49.968 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
you've also been following
the whole bridge,
17:49.968 --> 17:51.637 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
I-55 bridge replacement.
- Yes.
17:51.637 --> 17:54.173 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
- Which is gonna have a lot of
state money and federal money.
17:54.173 --> 17:56.241 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
And then a story about
wetlands developers
17:56.241 --> 17:57.443 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
and how that's all working.
17:57.443 --> 17:58.610 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
I don't know which of those
you wanna tackle first.
17:58.610 --> 18:00.312 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
- Sure, our cover this
week is about wetlands.
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Great story by Chris McCoy.
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There's been a battle
that's been waged
18:04.750 --> 18:07.986 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
for more than a year now, some
behind the scenes, some not.
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Developers are
looking at, you know,
18:10.322 --> 18:12.558 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
pieces of land in West
Tennessee that are now protected
18:12.558 --> 18:14.927 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
by state law saying
you cannot build
18:14.927 --> 18:17.629 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
on these kinds of
wetlands over here.
18:17.629 --> 18:20.432 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
There was a political action
committee formed by developers.
18:20.432 --> 18:23.035 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
They've been spending a lot of
money on lobbyists this year,
18:23.035 --> 18:24.703 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
trying to get those
rules loosened,
18:24.703 --> 18:26.338 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
so it can open up some land,
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especially around
Blue Oval City,
18:28.307 --> 18:29.975 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
where they can go and build
homes and do those things.
18:29.975 --> 18:31.844 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
It's looking attractive
for them now.
18:31.844 --> 18:34.446 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
Environmentalists are gonna
argue that we need wetlands.
18:34.446 --> 18:36.648 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
You know, they
hold flood waters.
18:36.648 --> 18:38.083 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
They recharge the aquifer.
18:38.083 --> 18:41.920 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
They, you know, put CO2,
they take CO2 out of the air.
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The bill was up by Kevin Vaughn,
18:44.356 --> 18:45.858 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
who's a Republican
from Collierville.
18:45.858 --> 18:47.659 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
He's also a developer.
18:47.659 --> 18:48.927 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5%
It's been a battle,
18:48.927 --> 18:51.296 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
but I think there's been
open dialogue up there.
18:51.296 --> 18:53.198 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
I know Protector
Aquifer has been,
18:53.198 --> 18:54.666 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
they've testified
18:54.666 --> 18:56.502 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
in front of the House and
Senate committees on this.
18:56.502 --> 19:00.305 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
It kind of got stalled in kind
of a good course of dialogue,
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I think, which is
unusual, I think
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for what happens in
Nashville a lot of times.
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So now the bill is stalled
as we get more information.
19:06.912 --> 19:09.481 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
Folks aren't seeing it
really coming back this year,
19:09.481 --> 19:11.717 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
but you never know with
these kinds of bills.
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That was the cover story.
19:13.051 --> 19:14.553 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
Another story that I did,
19:14.553 --> 19:16.555 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
something that was
happening earlier this week
19:16.555 --> 19:17.923 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
was about reparations.
19:17.923 --> 19:20.826 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
We know in 2023, the
Shelby County Commission
19:20.826 --> 19:24.830 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
decided to set aside $5 million
just to have a committee
19:24.830 --> 19:27.966 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
just to look at reparations
in just Shelby County,
19:27.966 --> 19:30.369 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
what that would look like,
how that would influence
19:30.369 --> 19:32.404 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
home ownership, healthcare,
19:32.404 --> 19:34.373 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
generational wealth,
those kind of things.
19:34.373 --> 19:36.575 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
And it was a little
controversial at the time,
19:36.575 --> 19:38.610 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and if that committee was
formed, they did work.
19:38.610 --> 19:39.478 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55%
I'm not sure.
19:39.478 --> 19:40.479 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
I couldn't confirm
that yesterday
19:40.479 --> 19:42.080 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
as I was looking it up.
19:42.080 --> 19:45.551 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
But there is, there's a
legislation in Nashville now
19:45.551 --> 19:46.885 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
that would end that.
19:46.885 --> 19:49.087 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
They say whatever city-
county that you're in,
19:49.087 --> 19:50.889 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
you can't think about,
you can't talk about,
19:50.889 --> 19:52.291 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
you can't form a committee
19:52.291 --> 19:54.560 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
to try to have a conversation
about reparations,
19:54.560 --> 19:57.396 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
and you can't give
any reparations out.
19:57.396 --> 20:00.098 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
So this was a big battle
up there in Nashville
20:00.098 --> 20:02.668 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Tuesday or Wednesday on
the floor of the House.
20:02.668 --> 20:04.503 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
Both of those bills
are stymied now
20:04.503 --> 20:06.138 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
in the House and the Senate.
20:06.138 --> 20:07.472 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55%
Big battles.
20:07.472 --> 20:10.175 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
It's an emotional,
emotionally charged issue.
20:10.175 --> 20:12.477 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
So we're gonna have to wait
and see what happens with that.
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- Let me stay at the
state with you, Laura,
20:14.046 --> 20:16.014 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
a big, big voucher proposal.
20:16.014 --> 20:17.449 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
School vouchers were proposed.
20:17.449 --> 20:19.585 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
Bill Lee, Governor Bill Lee,
20:19.585 --> 20:22.521 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
there's been a pilot program,
you can kind of describe that.
20:22.521 --> 20:25.624 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Wanted to really expand it
essentially to all Tennesseans.
20:25.624 --> 20:28.393 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
Where do things stand on
education vouchers right now?
20:28.393 --> 20:32.164 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
- So we know that once the
proposals officially came out
20:32.164 --> 20:34.199 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
of the House and the Senate,
20:34.199 --> 20:35.367 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
those are very different,
20:35.367 --> 20:36.935 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
and neither match the
governor's proposal.
20:36.935 --> 20:39.037 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
So we were looking, even
when this began in earnest
20:39.037 --> 20:42.741 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
a few, couple months ago at
three different possibilities.
20:42.741 --> 20:44.476 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
It's still in limbo.
20:44.476 --> 20:47.512 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
We've got, you know, probably
about a week and a half left
20:47.512 --> 20:51.550 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
of session as lawmakers
are going through
20:51.550 --> 20:53.018 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
the state budget right now.
20:53.018 --> 20:56.888 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
We do appear poised
to have $144 million
20:56.888 --> 20:58.690 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
for the voucher program
20:58.690 --> 21:01.093 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
that would match the
Governor's proposal.
21:01.093 --> 21:03.562 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
It would not fully
fund the proposal
21:03.562 --> 21:05.264 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
that is coming out of the House.
21:05.264 --> 21:08.934 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
That proposal includes a lot
of changes to public schools,
21:08.934 --> 21:13.538 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
and in some ways that, you
know, people have wanted,
21:13.538 --> 21:15.274 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
less accountability, more funds
21:15.274 --> 21:17.009 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
for school infrastructure even,
21:17.009 --> 21:19.811 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
initial proposals
were to end the ASD,
21:19.811 --> 21:24.182 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and the funding for that
is unlikely to be there
21:24.182 --> 21:25.784 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
by the time that we get
through with the budget.
21:25.784 --> 21:27.753 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
- Right, and you tell me
I'm wrong, but am I right,
21:27.753 --> 21:29.454 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
this is, unlike a lot of
things at the legislature,
21:29.454 --> 21:30.922 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
which tend to be urban/rural,
21:30.922 --> 21:33.191 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
like the gun stuff
tends to be urban/rural.
21:33.191 --> 21:34.326 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
A lot of the criminal
justice stuff
21:34.326 --> 21:35.927 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
that we've been talking about.
21:35.927 --> 21:38.997 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
Education was not just, there
are a lot of small districts,
21:38.997 --> 21:40.265 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
a lot of rural districts
21:40.265 --> 21:42.167 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
that are not real crazy
about the idea of vouchers.
21:42.167 --> 21:44.536 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
Is that fair?
- That's exactly right, yeah.
21:44.536 --> 21:46.872 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
We have here in Shelby
County even, you know,
21:46.872 --> 21:50.108 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
you don't always see
the municipal districts
21:50.108 --> 21:52.344 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and Memphis-Shelby County
Schools seeing eye to eye
21:52.344 --> 21:53.478 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
on education policy.
21:53.478 --> 21:57.316 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
But this is something that
all of them have opposed
21:57.316 --> 21:59.017 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
as well as many
other rural districts
21:59.017 --> 22:01.653 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and suburban districts
across the state.
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- Let's come back to
a new superintendent
22:04.056 --> 22:05.390 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
with just a few
minutes left here.
22:05.390 --> 22:06.658 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5%
- Sure.
22:06.658 --> 22:08.393 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
- Laura Feagins, she's again,
three, almost three weeks
22:08.393 --> 22:11.963 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
as we record into
her, into the new job.
22:11.963 --> 22:14.099 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
You and I are gonna interview
her on the show here
22:14.099 --> 22:15.133 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
in a couple of weeks,
22:15.133 --> 22:16.668 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
so we'll get some
one-on-one time with her.
22:16.668 --> 22:18.370 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
I think you maybe
already have had.
22:18.370 --> 22:19.304 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
Your thoughts.
22:19.304 --> 22:20.572 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
I mean, what are her priorities?
22:20.572 --> 22:22.040 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
Where has she sort
of made some news,
22:22.040 --> 22:24.509 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
and what kind of
tone has she struck?
22:24.509 --> 22:26.645 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
- Sure, so coming in, you know,
22:26.645 --> 22:29.548 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
she had her month of March
to consult with the district
22:29.548 --> 22:32.617 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
and sort of get to know
what would be coming up.
22:32.617 --> 22:34.920 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
She has since announced,
22:34.920 --> 22:38.323 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
since her tenure officially
began on April 1st,
22:38.323 --> 22:40.492 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
a transition team
that is spearheaded
22:40.492 --> 22:43.562 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
by Council of
Great City Schools.
22:43.562 --> 22:46.231 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
They're specifically
Michael Hinojosa,
22:46.231 --> 22:48.266 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
who is a former superintendent
22:48.266 --> 22:49.901 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
of Dallas Independent
School District
22:49.901 --> 22:52.804 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
and has been a
superintendent of 27 years
22:52.804 --> 22:54.139 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
has helped put together a team,
22:54.139 --> 22:56.742 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
both of experts from
that national council
22:56.742 --> 22:58.610 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
that the school
district is a member of,
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as well as five current
and former superintendents
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including Dr. Battle
over in Nashville
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and former Memphis City
School's Superintendent
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Carol Johnson-Dean.
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Important to know about
her addition to the team is
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she's been very supportive
throughout Feagins' transition
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into the district,
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and of course is the last
female to have had the role
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who was from out of town.
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So they can share
some knowledge there.
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Marie Feagins has not been
a superintendent before,
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so she's, you know, I think a
lot of people are seeing her
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acknowledge with this
transition team some gaps
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that were identified earlier
on when she was selected.
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And so she's really,
I think, moving forward
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and in this group that's
due to be in town very soon,
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if not already,
will be helping her
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shepherd in a 100-day plan.
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She's already kind of promising
some shakeups of cabinet,
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and so we'll have to
see how that shakes out.
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- And I have twice now referred
to her as Laura Feagins.
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It is Laura Testino,
Marie Feagins.
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I'm gonna get that right
before we sit down with her
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and I embarrass myself
further, so apologies.
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A quick thing with just
a minute left here.
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Bill, if the city, I'm
coming back to the city
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and the ask for
$25 million towards capital
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for the school system.
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Would that be,
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I mean if you go, is
it one of those things
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where if you do it one year,
you're gonna be stuck doing it
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for, I shouldn't
say stuck, but it's
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- No, it's not.
- It could be a one-time thing.
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- Yeah.
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- They could come back and
say here's $10 million once.
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That's what we got.
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- Right, the capital
spending would not invoke
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the Maintenance of Efforts
State law that says
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you give 'em
$2 million, let's say,
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you're on the hook for
$2 million infinitely basically.
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- A quick thing
for you, for Julia,
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just to kinda wrap
up a few things.
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Judge Melissa Boyd, a story
that I think for people
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is a combination of sad,
infuriating, confusing.
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Where, is that over now?
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I mean, where does that stand?
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- So the saga continues.
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Although Judge Melissa Boyd or
former Judge Melissa Boyd is,
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you know, currently on
diversion and doing rehab.
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Her seat is now open,
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and there are four people
running for her seat.
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But that remains to be seen
how long that seat will be open
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because the Tennessee
legislature is considering
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eliminating that seat
and another judicial seat
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in this district.
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- And last but not least, Toby,
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usually at this point
in the legislature,
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we get a marijuana
update from you.
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Do we have any updates
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on marijuana policy
laws, regulations?
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- Marijuana is not
a coming this year,
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and it's been bandied about,
of course, there's a few bills.
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None of 'em have
risen to the level
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of getting anything formal here.
25:36.201 --> 25:39.437 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
We're now, they're
working with the state,
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growers and stuff are
working with the state
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to finalize some
rules and stuff,
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keep products on the shelves,
but no, we're not gonna see any
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significant marijuana
legislation this year.
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- All right, we
will leave it there.
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Thank you all for being here,
and thank you for joining us.
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