1 00:00:00,734 --> 00:00:02,535 >>Hi, I'm John D'earth. 2 00:00:02,535 --> 00:00:04,437 I'm a musician who lives in Charlottesville. 3 00:00:04,437 --> 00:00:07,707 I play trumpet, I write music, I teach music. 4 00:00:07,707 --> 00:00:10,210 I've lived here for about 43 years, 5 00:00:10,210 --> 00:00:12,645 and I feel like I just moved here. 6 00:00:12,645 --> 00:00:15,181 I always say I have learned more from teaching 7 00:00:15,181 --> 00:00:17,117 than from any other thing, 8 00:00:17,117 --> 00:00:19,486 because it's easier for me 9 00:00:19,486 --> 00:00:22,222 and for many people to do for others 10 00:00:22,222 --> 00:00:25,358 what you are having a hard time doing for yourself, 11 00:00:25,358 --> 00:00:27,794 like learning something. 12 00:00:27,794 --> 00:00:31,398 So I'm coming up with stuff for my students 13 00:00:31,398 --> 00:00:34,601 that turns out to be me teaching myself. 14 00:00:34,601 --> 00:00:37,704 I have been teaching since I was 19 years old. 15 00:00:37,704 --> 00:00:41,541 I love to teach, but I come from a family of teachers. 16 00:00:41,541 --> 00:00:45,011 I have to say, my grandmother, my father's mother 17 00:00:45,011 --> 00:00:49,449 was a real little red schoolhouse teacher. 18 00:00:49,449 --> 00:00:51,985 My father was a natural teacher 19 00:00:51,985 --> 00:00:53,453 who wasn't a professional teacher, 20 00:00:53,453 --> 00:00:55,221 but I learned more from him about music. 21 00:00:55,221 --> 00:00:58,491 And he was not a musician, his ears were unbelievable. 22 00:00:58,491 --> 00:01:01,694 But I had many great teachers and I copied the teachers. 23 00:01:03,096 --> 00:01:05,965 Partly I love to teach or I'm good at teaching maybe 24 00:01:05,965 --> 00:01:09,502 because I am very understanding 25 00:01:09,502 --> 00:01:12,539 of having a hard time with certain things 26 00:01:12,539 --> 00:01:14,340 because I have a hard time with certain things. 27 00:01:14,340 --> 00:01:16,810 So that helps teaching. 28 00:01:16,810 --> 00:01:18,912 But also it's just a crystal in me 29 00:01:18,912 --> 00:01:22,982 I think that I just delight in seeing people 30 00:01:22,982 --> 00:01:25,185 take off with music 31 00:01:25,185 --> 00:01:27,854 because I feel like people are cheated of it 32 00:01:27,854 --> 00:01:31,458 because music is the most conservative art. 33 00:01:31,458 --> 00:01:32,792 That's what Nietzsche said. 34 00:01:32,792 --> 00:01:34,727 He said it's the most conservative art form. 35 00:01:34,727 --> 00:01:37,897 It's the last art form to catch up with innovation 36 00:01:37,897 --> 00:01:40,400 because there are so many gatekeepers. 37 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:43,670 How many people do you know who thrive on listening to music 38 00:01:43,670 --> 00:01:45,371 and say they're not musical? 39 00:01:45,371 --> 00:01:48,274 How can you not be musical if you love to listen to music? 40 00:01:48,274 --> 00:01:52,879 But the message that they got is clear when you hear that. 41 00:01:53,913 --> 00:01:55,048 Wrong message. 42 00:01:55,048 --> 00:01:56,649 >>Part of your approach too, 43 00:01:56,649 --> 00:02:00,553 is this whole idea of letting people jump in the deep end. 44 00:02:00,553 --> 00:02:02,388 >>I had that with my teachers. 45 00:02:02,388 --> 00:02:05,992 That's a big part of studying with real jazz musicians. 46 00:02:05,992 --> 00:02:09,295 And I was so lucky to meet real jazz musicians 47 00:02:09,295 --> 00:02:12,599 who really played jazz in the real world. 48 00:02:12,599 --> 00:02:15,902 Made records in the real world, knew Charlie Parker, 49 00:02:15,902 --> 00:02:19,305 knew Dizzy Gillespie, played on the Stan Kenton Band, 50 00:02:19,305 --> 00:02:22,575 and the standard was very high. 51 00:02:22,575 --> 00:02:25,111 So they would give you impossible things to do 52 00:02:25,111 --> 00:02:27,280 and then say, you're only doing 60% 53 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,415 of what I'm asking you to do here, John. 54 00:02:30,917 --> 00:02:34,154 I'll never forget when my teacher Boots said that to me. 55 00:02:34,154 --> 00:02:35,989 I was just devastated. 56 00:02:35,989 --> 00:02:38,725 He only spoke badly like that to me about twice, 57 00:02:38,725 --> 00:02:41,728 but it made an impact. 58 00:02:41,728 --> 00:02:43,796 I think we're stingy with the information. 59 00:02:43,796 --> 00:02:46,933 When we teach music, we withhold the means 60 00:02:46,933 --> 00:02:49,169 of production from the workers. 61 00:02:49,169 --> 00:02:51,437 We need to share the means of production with the workers 62 00:02:51,437 --> 00:02:54,140 and tell kids right away, hey, somebody wrote this music. 63 00:02:54,140 --> 00:02:55,074 You can write music. 64 00:02:55,074 --> 00:02:56,676 Anybody can write music. 65 00:02:56,676 --> 00:02:58,044 Let's write some music. 66 00:02:58,044 --> 00:02:59,712 It puts it on a whole, 67 00:02:59,712 --> 00:03:01,514 it puts it in a different perspective to think 68 00:03:01,514 --> 00:03:02,749 that you're gonna create. 69 00:03:02,749 --> 00:03:04,450 You give a kid a sheet of paper. 70 00:03:04,450 --> 00:03:07,220 You know that joke I like so much about the mother 71 00:03:07,220 --> 00:03:09,756 and the little girl says, where do you go to work every day? 72 00:03:09,756 --> 00:03:11,357 I go up on the hill 73 00:03:11,357 --> 00:03:15,094 and teach the university students how to paint and draw. 74 00:03:15,094 --> 00:03:17,664 And the little girl says, what you mean they forgot? 75 00:03:17,664 --> 00:03:19,666 Well, we do that in the UVA Jazz Ensemble. 76 00:03:19,666 --> 00:03:21,000 We step out of the comfort zone 77 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,736 because we have all semester to rehearse. 78 00:03:23,736 --> 00:03:25,505 So I give 'em stuff that's really hard. 79 00:03:25,505 --> 00:03:28,141 Well, my role at UVA is to be 80 00:03:28,141 --> 00:03:30,343 the Director of Jazz Performance, 81 00:03:30,343 --> 00:03:33,313 and I have given myself a virtual trophy 82 00:03:33,313 --> 00:03:36,783 for never having called a meeting of the jazz faculty 83 00:03:36,783 --> 00:03:39,485 at UVA, because it's all of us who are friends 84 00:03:39,485 --> 00:03:41,020 who play together all the time, 85 00:03:41,020 --> 00:03:44,591 and we know intuitively what we need to do for our students. 86 00:03:44,591 --> 00:03:46,526 And that's a very special thing at UVA 87 00:03:46,526 --> 00:03:51,164 because we teach very gifted, brilliant people 88 00:03:51,164 --> 00:03:54,467 who probably aren't gonna play music for a living, 89 00:03:54,467 --> 00:03:57,203 who really want music in their lives. 90 00:03:57,203 --> 00:04:00,406 And we want them to keep that for the rest of their lives. 91 00:04:00,406 --> 00:04:01,708 So that's the goal. 92 00:04:01,708 --> 00:04:05,578 And learning to respect a person like that 93 00:04:05,578 --> 00:04:07,347 and not expect that they're going 94 00:04:07,347 --> 00:04:10,516 to pursue their music like a conservatory student 95 00:04:10,516 --> 00:04:12,885 is something we've all had to learn 96 00:04:12,885 --> 00:04:15,521 and address in ourselves. 97 00:04:15,521 --> 00:04:17,724 The thing that I'm proud of as a private teacher 98 00:04:17,724 --> 00:04:21,861 with people who are serious is they don't sound the same. 99 00:04:21,861 --> 00:04:23,896 They end up finding their own thing. 100 00:04:23,896 --> 00:04:26,199 And that is one of the first rules of jazz. 101 00:04:26,199 --> 00:04:27,500 There's two rules, basically. 102 00:04:27,500 --> 00:04:31,337 Master the vocabulary and be yourself. 103 00:04:31,337 --> 00:04:34,807 Everyone else is taken, whoever said that. 104 00:04:34,807 --> 00:04:37,410 How do my students perceive me? 105 00:04:37,410 --> 00:04:39,312 People don't know how to take me sometimes. 106 00:04:39,312 --> 00:04:43,816 So that's interesting working with that. 107 00:04:43,816 --> 00:04:48,021 I think they go through a progression with me where they, 108 00:04:48,021 --> 00:04:49,722 hopefully, this is what I hope. 109 00:04:49,722 --> 00:04:53,026 First of all, I think they're usually intimidated at first 110 00:04:53,026 --> 00:04:55,561 because it's just somebody who's over the top in some 111 00:04:55,561 --> 00:04:58,598 way, and they think that I have this reputation 112 00:04:58,598 --> 00:05:00,033 and blah, blah, blah. 113 00:05:00,033 --> 00:05:02,068 I teach at UVA, made a record, whatever the heck. 114 00:05:02,935 --> 00:05:04,637 So they start with that. 115 00:05:04,637 --> 00:05:06,839 Then they realize, oh, this guy's, 116 00:05:06,839 --> 00:05:08,141 he's not that intimidating. 117 00:05:08,141 --> 00:05:09,542 In fact, he's funny. 118 00:05:11,044 --> 00:05:14,514 I think they think that I'm really serious about the very, 119 00:05:14,514 --> 00:05:17,383 very basic things of playing. 120 00:05:17,383 --> 00:05:19,252 And they get that and they take it. 121 00:05:19,252 --> 00:05:21,888 And the ones who are gonna play run with that, 122 00:05:21,888 --> 00:05:23,122 and then they come back to me and say, 123 00:05:23,122 --> 00:05:25,191 you're not serious enough. 124 00:05:25,191 --> 00:05:28,695 I think they think that I've got their backs. 125 00:05:28,695 --> 00:05:30,697 I hope they think that. 126 00:05:30,697 --> 00:05:32,799 I'm not competing with them. 127 00:05:32,799 --> 00:05:34,100 I'm retiring from UVA. 128 00:05:34,100 --> 00:05:36,536 What am I gonna do with that extra time? 129 00:05:36,536 --> 00:05:39,305 That is the million dollar question that I'm asking myself. 130 00:05:39,305 --> 00:05:41,040 And I'm really trying to sort of 131 00:05:41,040 --> 00:05:43,876 bootcamp my way towards that 132 00:05:43,876 --> 00:05:45,812 with a little more personal discipline 133 00:05:45,812 --> 00:05:47,013 and not just have to show up 134 00:05:47,013 --> 00:05:48,648 because you're scheduled to be there. 135 00:05:48,648 --> 00:05:50,283 That's the hope. 136 00:05:50,283 --> 00:05:54,921 But I also hope to get very mobile 137 00:05:54,921 --> 00:05:59,425 in a van and drive all over the continent 138 00:05:59,425 --> 00:06:04,364 and visit cities, visit people, friends, play music. 139 00:06:05,398 --> 00:06:06,866 This thing, try to figure out a way 140 00:06:06,866 --> 00:06:10,203 to do music in a meaningful way that doesn't involve 141 00:06:10,203 --> 00:06:15,208 a lot of hype and doesn't involve a lot of self-promotion, 142 00:06:16,109 --> 00:06:17,777 because I'm terrible at that. 143 00:06:17,777 --> 00:06:21,114 I'm gonna keep playing gigs and I'll keep composing, I hope, 144 00:06:21,114 --> 00:06:22,915 and actually a lot more composition. 145 00:06:24,083 --> 00:06:26,519 So yeah, I'm hoping it'll just unfold 146 00:06:26,519 --> 00:06:29,522 into much more music all the time. 147 00:06:29,522 --> 00:06:33,092 (upbeat jazz music) 148 00:06:33,092 --> 00:06:36,162 (band member laughing) 149 00:06:36,162 --> 00:06:39,165 (upbeat jazz music) 150 00:06:52,278 --> 00:06:54,847 (gentle music)