1 00:00:01,100 --> 00:00:02,500 NARRATOR: Major funding is provided by, 2 00:00:03,300 --> 00:00:04,466 Alex Cooper Auctioneers, 3 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,666 since 1924 has been serving the Mid-Atlantic states, 4 00:00:08,033 --> 00:00:11,100 featuring monthly gallery antique auction sales, 5 00:00:11,233 --> 00:00:13,666 our staff can assist clients with the disposition of their 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:15,300 valued possessions. 7 00:00:15,433 --> 00:00:17,100 Alex Cooper Auctioneers. 8 00:00:18,433 --> 00:00:20,966 ROSS KELBAUGH: Coming up on "Chesapeake Collectibles". 9 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,500 You have brought in a grouping that is amongst the most 10 00:00:24,633 --> 00:00:27,766 exciting that I have been able to look at today. 11 00:00:27,900 --> 00:00:31,500 GUEST: This a Jacob Glushakow oil on canvas painting, 12 00:00:31,633 --> 00:00:34,666 he's a local Baltimorean artist. 13 00:00:35,033 --> 00:00:36,400 G. AMORY LECUYER: This has become one of the most 14 00:00:36,533 --> 00:00:39,366 collectible models of Rolex watch 15 00:00:39,500 --> 00:00:41,566 out there in the market today. 16 00:00:41,700 --> 00:00:44,933 GUEST: I brought a book by Mr. Whitney Young, that was 17 00:00:45,066 --> 00:00:47,733 presented to my father when he was working with 18 00:00:47,866 --> 00:00:50,466 United Way of America in New York City. 19 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:52,466 ED MORENO: But this is really the height of American 20 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:54,433 silver-plated production. 21 00:00:54,566 --> 00:00:57,966 You have a coffee pot, a teapot, hot milk uh, jug, 22 00:00:58,100 --> 00:01:01,333 a sugar, a spooner, a creamer, 23 00:01:01,466 --> 00:01:03,600 and then you have a couple of mugs. 24 00:01:04,000 --> 00:01:10,666 [theme music playing]. 25 00:01:17,166 --> 00:01:21,600 ♪ ♪ 26 00:01:22,733 --> 00:01:29,333 ♪ ♪ 27 00:01:31,166 --> 00:01:32,566 P. RAAB CHRISTHILF: Well thanks for coming in today. 28 00:01:32,700 --> 00:01:33,633 GUEST: Thank you. 29 00:01:33,766 --> 00:01:34,733 P. RAAB: Tell us what you've brought in, 30 00:01:34,866 --> 00:01:36,100 let's take a look at it. 31 00:01:36,233 --> 00:01:40,633 GUEST: This is a Jacob Glushakow uh, oil on canvas painting, 32 00:01:40,766 --> 00:01:43,866 he's a local Baltimorean um, artist. 33 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:47,466 Um, I think he passed away in 2000 but I believe he also 34 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:50,200 painted for about six decades. 35 00:01:50,333 --> 00:01:52,733 My husband and I acquired the painting from a, 36 00:01:52,866 --> 00:01:56,533 a personal artist of his collection um, 37 00:01:56,666 --> 00:01:58,700 a couple years ago, um, 38 00:01:58,833 --> 00:02:03,300 and I, I think immediately uh, my eyes drew right to it. 39 00:02:03,433 --> 00:02:06,933 Um, and I felt some sort of connection as my family grew up 40 00:02:07,066 --> 00:02:09,666 in Baltimore and I'm sure went to Hollins Market. 41 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:11,866 P. RAAB: Are you from that area, were you, 42 00:02:12,000 --> 00:02:13,400 did you ever live down there? 43 00:02:13,566 --> 00:02:15,633 GUEST: I personally did not, but I spent most summers as 44 00:02:15,766 --> 00:02:17,933 I was growing up with my uncle and my aunt. 45 00:02:18,066 --> 00:02:19,800 P. RAAB: And they lived down in this area? 46 00:02:19,933 --> 00:02:21,566 GUEST: They lived close to the area. 47 00:02:21,700 --> 00:02:23,466 P. RAAB: Oh, so then it means even more to you then. 48 00:02:23,600 --> 00:02:24,633 GUEST: Yes. 49 00:02:24,766 --> 00:02:26,333 P. RAAB: Well, uh, uh, we're glad in 50 00:02:26,466 --> 00:02:29,766 "Chesapeake Collectibles" to have Baltimore and Maryland 51 00:02:29,900 --> 00:02:32,033 memorabilia obviously, 52 00:02:32,166 --> 00:02:34,733 and that's why I was so excited about it. 53 00:02:34,866 --> 00:02:37,900 Years ago, when I worked with another auction house, 54 00:02:38,033 --> 00:02:42,833 we sold his estate and they were many, many paintings. 55 00:02:43,233 --> 00:02:46,966 He's a wonderful guy I mean he's, it, he's an interesting, 56 00:02:47,100 --> 00:02:48,700 was an interesting character too. 57 00:02:48,833 --> 00:02:51,966 Born in 1914 on the ship. 58 00:02:52,100 --> 00:02:55,666 There was a Baltimore to Bremen steam ship line, 59 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,900 that's why Baltimore has such a large German population. 60 00:02:59,033 --> 00:03:00,166 GUEST: Mm-hm. 61 00:03:00,300 --> 00:03:02,566 P. RAAB: Irish and German, they came down from Philadelphia 62 00:03:02,700 --> 00:03:06,166 of course, and after the yellow fever epidemic of 1793, 63 00:03:06,300 --> 00:03:07,466 but also there was this 64 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:09,433 Baltimore to Bremen steam ship line 65 00:03:09,566 --> 00:03:12,300 which just brought tons; Baltimore is a port of entry, 66 00:03:12,433 --> 00:03:15,466 so tons of Germans came in, he was one of them, 67 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:17,233 he was born on the boat, on the ship, 68 00:03:17,366 --> 00:03:20,066 on the way over and he was one of 11 children. 69 00:03:20,233 --> 00:03:21,300 GUEST: Wow. 70 00:03:21,433 --> 00:03:23,466 P. RAAB: So, he was from a big family. 71 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:29,200 Um, he has a wonderful uh, eye, a wonderful sense, uh, 72 00:03:29,333 --> 00:03:33,566 he's a keen observer of Baltimore life out in the, 73 00:03:33,700 --> 00:03:38,366 in the, I guess second and third quarter of the ninth, 74 00:03:38,500 --> 00:03:40,000 of the 20th century. 75 00:03:40,133 --> 00:03:43,066 If you look at the painting you can see there's the 76 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:45,966 cabbage here, there's, there's, there's bits and 77 00:03:46,100 --> 00:03:48,233 pieces, there's trash right there. 78 00:03:48,366 --> 00:03:51,133 This you know is produce right here, someone is looking in a 79 00:03:51,266 --> 00:03:54,166 big bin there, I don't know if it's garbage or not, but 80 00:03:54,300 --> 00:03:57,300 I mean he's really picking up, you know, here's a 81 00:03:57,433 --> 00:03:59,633 mother and child coming in the, the butcher, 82 00:03:59,766 --> 00:04:01,566 or whatever the store owner is 83 00:04:01,700 --> 00:04:03,900 and the stalls on either side, 84 00:04:04,033 --> 00:04:06,466 I mean it's just a wonderful, it's almost photographic 85 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,333 in the way that it depicts, 86 00:04:08,466 --> 00:04:11,766 that he depicts the scene of Baltimore that were, 87 00:04:11,900 --> 00:04:14,200 was so endemic to Baltimore at that time. 88 00:04:14,333 --> 00:04:17,166 The different markets you know, uh, Hollins and, and, 89 00:04:17,300 --> 00:04:20,300 one in, uh south Baltimore, I forget the name of it, 90 00:04:20,433 --> 00:04:23,066 but anyway the different markets that were uh, 91 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:24,600 in Baltimore at the time. 92 00:04:24,733 --> 00:04:27,533 And I guess the, the, similar, similar to the way people 93 00:04:27,666 --> 00:04:29,300 bought food in all the cities you know. 94 00:04:29,433 --> 00:04:30,566 GUEST: Mm-hm. 95 00:04:30,700 --> 00:04:34,066 P. RAAB: So, it's, it's a real slice of Baltimore, 96 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:38,733 the architecture here, the uh, old market place right there, 97 00:04:38,866 --> 00:04:42,366 I mean he's really captured; this is a Coca-Cola sign 98 00:04:42,500 --> 00:04:44,066 I think right here with the red. 99 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:45,366 GUEST: I can tell. 100 00:04:45,500 --> 00:04:47,300 P. RAAB: So, he's, he's, he really has an eye for detail, 101 00:04:47,433 --> 00:04:49,100 you know, which is exciting. 102 00:04:49,233 --> 00:04:52,166 The whole um, I don't know, the whole scene is charming, 103 00:04:52,300 --> 00:04:54,133 all of his work was charming. 104 00:04:54,266 --> 00:04:57,133 It, a lot of his other artwork he would show the 105 00:04:57,266 --> 00:05:00,300 destruction of Baltimore in the inner city, 106 00:05:00,433 --> 00:05:02,733 the, the buildings that were falling down, 107 00:05:02,866 --> 00:05:05,666 a lot of them were of the ruins of Baltimore 108 00:05:05,800 --> 00:05:08,833 before inner harbor came, I guess in the early '60s 109 00:05:08,966 --> 00:05:11,400 and bulldozed all that area down. 110 00:05:11,533 --> 00:05:12,700 GUEST: Mm-hm. 111 00:05:12,833 --> 00:05:15,300 P. RAAB: So, to show, and this is still extant of course, 112 00:05:15,433 --> 00:05:18,066 this is Hollins Market as you said before, so this is still 113 00:05:18,200 --> 00:05:21,866 extant this, this, uh part of town, so this is probably a 114 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:25,233 scene that is uh, probably still there today. 115 00:05:25,366 --> 00:05:27,866 Anyway, have you had anyone give you any ideas 116 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:29,133 of value on this? 117 00:05:29,266 --> 00:05:30,500 GUEST: No, not, not at all. 118 00:05:30,633 --> 00:05:32,733 P. RAAB: Not at all. GUEST: Not at all. 119 00:05:32,866 --> 00:05:36,366 P. RAAB: At auction what we found is that his paintings, 120 00:05:36,500 --> 00:05:39,733 this kind of large painting, a nice painting and framed, 121 00:05:39,866 --> 00:05:44,666 were selling for about $1,000 to $1500 each painting 122 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:48,700 and so I think that that uh, idea of value maybe, 123 00:05:48,833 --> 00:05:51,066 if you wanted to insure it, 124 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:55,266 I would double that, say 25, $3000 something like that. 125 00:05:55,500 --> 00:05:59,700 If you went to sell it you could expect $1,000 to $1500... 126 00:05:59,833 --> 00:06:00,733 GUEST: Wonderful. 127 00:06:00,866 --> 00:06:01,766 P. RAAB: In return. GUEST 2: Fantastic. 128 00:06:01,900 --> 00:06:03,166 P. RAAB: I know, they're lovely paintings. 129 00:06:03,300 --> 00:06:04,833 I hope you don't let it, let it go because it's really 130 00:06:04,966 --> 00:06:05,966 a great painting. 131 00:06:06,100 --> 00:06:07,200 GUEST: No, not at all. 132 00:06:07,333 --> 00:06:08,200 P. RAAB: But thank you for bringing it in, it's fun. 133 00:06:08,333 --> 00:06:09,233 GUEST: Thank you. GUEST 2: Thank you. 134 00:06:09,366 --> 00:06:11,233 P. RAAB: Thank you. 135 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:22,500 ♪ ♪ 136 00:06:24,866 --> 00:06:26,500 GENICE LEE: Welcome to the show and what have you brought 137 00:06:26,633 --> 00:06:28,200 in for us to take a look at? 138 00:06:28,333 --> 00:06:30,066 GUEST: Well, thank you, I brought a book by 139 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:33,433 Mr. Whitney Young that was presented to my father 140 00:06:33,566 --> 00:06:35,866 when he was working with The United Way of America 141 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:37,966 in New York City. 142 00:06:38,100 --> 00:06:42,633 GENICE: And have you ever had this book assessed before? 143 00:06:42,766 --> 00:06:44,700 GUEST: No, I, this is the first time. 144 00:06:44,833 --> 00:06:47,200 I found it when I was going through my father's 145 00:06:47,333 --> 00:06:49,000 personal archives. 146 00:06:49,133 --> 00:06:51,333 GENICE: Well I think it's great that you took the time 147 00:06:51,466 --> 00:06:55,866 to carefully go through your father's personal effects, 148 00:06:56,000 --> 00:06:58,933 I know that a lot of people are doing that right now and 149 00:06:59,066 --> 00:07:01,866 a lot of times things like this are thrown out because people 150 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:05,066 are in a hurry, so I'm glad that you're taking the time and 151 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:08,000 were able to bring it on the show and share with us, 152 00:07:08,133 --> 00:07:10,933 so let's talk a little bit about the book that you have. 153 00:07:11,066 --> 00:07:13,933 I love the fact that this is also a part of 154 00:07:14,066 --> 00:07:15,366 what you brought in. 155 00:07:15,500 --> 00:07:19,300 Typically, advertisements around these books get thrown out 156 00:07:19,433 --> 00:07:22,166 and so you have the advertisement for the book 157 00:07:22,300 --> 00:07:25,766 as well, um, the book is signed on the inside, 158 00:07:25,900 --> 00:07:27,866 and you told me that it was signed to whom? 159 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,800 GUEST: It's dedicated to both my mother and father. 160 00:07:31,133 --> 00:07:32,900 GENICE: Okay, so it was to both parents, not just one. 161 00:07:33,033 --> 00:07:34,233 GUEST: Yes. 162 00:07:34,366 --> 00:07:37,600 GENICE: Okay great, and so we have this, this book written 163 00:07:37,733 --> 00:07:40,266 by a gentleman who's known for his involvement in the 164 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:43,800 Civil Rights Movement, also for his involvement in the 165 00:07:43,933 --> 00:07:48,133 March on Washington, he also was the executive director for a 166 00:07:48,266 --> 00:07:50,900 number of years for The National Urban League 167 00:07:51,033 --> 00:07:54,333 and so during that time, after looking at this document, 168 00:07:54,466 --> 00:07:56,966 I believe you said that's when you thought that your father 169 00:07:57,100 --> 00:07:59,333 was able to get the book from him in New York. 170 00:07:59,466 --> 00:08:01,666 GUEST: That's right, my father was working for 171 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:05,733 The United Way of America at that time and he was 172 00:08:05,866 --> 00:08:07,866 working with a lot of communities around 173 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,400 the mid-Atlantic and I believe 174 00:08:11,533 --> 00:08:15,166 that they began to collaborate together on different issues 175 00:08:15,300 --> 00:08:18,500 that they had in common for their concerns. 176 00:08:18,633 --> 00:08:21,400 GENICE: Okay, well I, the book is in good condition, 177 00:08:21,533 --> 00:08:25,233 I like that it has the original paper sleeve and cover on it 178 00:08:25,366 --> 00:08:28,733 and again this advertisement that talks a little bit about 179 00:08:28,866 --> 00:08:32,133 the book before it was sold, how much it would sell for and 180 00:08:32,266 --> 00:08:35,033 where you could also purchase it at book stores. 181 00:08:35,166 --> 00:08:38,233 So that, that advertisement says that this book could be 182 00:08:38,366 --> 00:08:40,633 purchased for $5 at the time, 183 00:08:40,766 --> 00:08:43,300 well I'm happy to tell you that the book now, 184 00:08:43,433 --> 00:08:46,366 with the signature in it would sell for $350. 185 00:08:46,500 --> 00:08:49,400 GUEST: No? Unbelievable. 186 00:08:49,533 --> 00:08:53,000 GENICE: So um, take care of keeping everything together 187 00:08:53,133 --> 00:08:55,300 and success to you as you continue to go through your 188 00:08:55,433 --> 00:08:58,533 dad's things, who knows what else you may find, but uh, 189 00:08:58,666 --> 00:09:00,966 thank you for bringing it on the show today to share with us. 190 00:09:01,266 --> 00:09:02,700 GUEST: Oh, thank you very much. 191 00:09:02,833 --> 00:09:05,900 And I hope I can give it to The Urban League or to a 192 00:09:06,033 --> 00:09:08,900 museum that would be interested in having these papers. 193 00:09:09,033 --> 00:09:11,066 Thank you. 194 00:09:17,566 --> 00:09:21,733 ♪ ♪ 195 00:09:21,866 --> 00:09:24,833 (studio chatter) 196 00:09:25,266 --> 00:09:28,333 ED: Thank you for bringing this wonderful silver-plated 197 00:09:28,466 --> 00:09:30,533 tea service, tea and coffee service 198 00:09:30,666 --> 00:09:32,400 to "Chesapeake Collectibles". 199 00:09:32,533 --> 00:09:34,900 How long have you had it and how did you come about? 200 00:09:35,033 --> 00:09:37,800 GUEST: Well, I've had various parts for quite some time, 201 00:09:37,933 --> 00:09:39,633 maybe as much as 25 years. 202 00:09:39,766 --> 00:09:40,866 ED: Oh. 203 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:42,333 GUEST: And so, I've been collecting this for a while 204 00:09:42,466 --> 00:09:46,066 but I collect Victorian silverplate and um, this is 205 00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:49,400 one of my favorite parts of the collection that I have. 206 00:09:49,533 --> 00:09:52,100 ED: And these of course are, are kind of well-known because 207 00:09:52,233 --> 00:09:54,000 of the fox finials. 208 00:09:54,133 --> 00:09:55,900 GUEST: Exactly, that's what attracted me, yes. 209 00:09:56,033 --> 00:10:00,500 ED: Okay um, this was made by the Wilcox Silver Company, uh, 210 00:10:00,666 --> 00:10:02,933 you actually have a fairly early piece which is kind of 211 00:10:03,066 --> 00:10:07,500 interesting, the company was formed in '65 and, your, 212 00:10:07,633 --> 00:10:11,800 you have a piece right here that is dated '69, 1869. 213 00:10:11,933 --> 00:10:13,100 GUEST: Yep. 214 00:10:13,233 --> 00:10:16,300 ED: So, this is the first, first couple years of the company. 215 00:10:16,433 --> 00:10:19,400 Later on, towards the end of the century it was absorbed by 216 00:10:19,533 --> 00:10:21,866 the International Silver Company, but this is really 217 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,800 the height of American silver-plated production. 218 00:10:24,933 --> 00:10:27,666 You have a coffee pot, a teapot. 219 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:30,100 A hot milk, hot milk uh, jug. 220 00:10:30,233 --> 00:10:31,300 GUEST: Okay. 221 00:10:31,433 --> 00:10:34,166 ED: A sugar, a spooner, a creamer, and then you have 222 00:10:34,300 --> 00:10:35,966 a couple of mugs. 223 00:10:36,100 --> 00:10:39,200 So, it's a totally great service along with a centerpiece, 224 00:10:39,333 --> 00:10:42,000 I'm sure you, you've assembled this over time. 225 00:10:42,133 --> 00:10:43,300 GUEST: Right. 226 00:10:43,433 --> 00:10:46,033 ED: And unfortunately, silverplate is not as valuable 227 00:10:46,166 --> 00:10:47,800 as it probably could. 228 00:10:47,933 --> 00:10:49,766 The great thing is that it hasn't been re-plated, 229 00:10:49,900 --> 00:10:51,400 this is original patina. 230 00:10:51,533 --> 00:10:52,733 GUEST: Mm-hm, yep. 231 00:10:52,866 --> 00:10:56,566 ED: It is the great engraving on it, the modeling is fantastic, 232 00:10:56,700 --> 00:11:00,333 uh, it's unfortunate, it is an aesthetic that is really, 233 00:11:00,466 --> 00:11:03,600 totally typical American and it's a wonderful piece uh, 234 00:11:03,733 --> 00:11:05,633 any idea of the value, value? 235 00:11:05,766 --> 00:11:08,033 GUEST: Um, I really don't, I don't it's, it's. 236 00:11:08,166 --> 00:11:12,100 ED: Again, not highly valuable but it's a wonderful, 237 00:11:12,233 --> 00:11:13,766 wonderful set. 238 00:11:13,900 --> 00:11:16,100 Um, this you could find at auction maybe for 239 00:11:16,233 --> 00:11:18,033 $500, $600, $700. 240 00:11:18,166 --> 00:11:19,266 GUEST: Okay. 241 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:22,033 ED: So, it's, it's, it's not insignificant, it's a pity 242 00:11:22,166 --> 00:11:24,400 that it's not more because I really, really like it, 243 00:11:24,533 --> 00:11:25,833 so, thank you for bringing it to the show. 244 00:11:25,966 --> 00:11:27,033 GUEST: Oh, excellent. 245 00:11:27,166 --> 00:11:28,666 Thank you, and thank you for the appraisal, yeah. 246 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:30,566 ED: Super. GUEST: Uh-huh. 247 00:11:36,300 --> 00:11:40,166 ♪ ♪ 248 00:11:40,300 --> 00:11:44,533 (studio chatter) 249 00:11:45,366 --> 00:11:47,533 G. AMORY: Welcome to "Chesapeake Collectibles", 250 00:11:47,666 --> 00:11:50,633 tell me a little bit about what you've brought for me today. 251 00:11:50,766 --> 00:11:54,533 GUEST: Well in the late '80s, early '90s I had an 252 00:11:54,666 --> 00:11:57,400 opportunity to buy, I always wanted a Rolex watch. 253 00:11:57,533 --> 00:11:58,700 G. AMORY: Okay. 254 00:11:58,833 --> 00:12:02,400 GUEST: And I found one, and it was a Rolex Submariner, 255 00:12:02,533 --> 00:12:03,933 because I used to scuba dive. 256 00:12:04,066 --> 00:12:05,233 G. AMORY: Okay. 257 00:12:05,366 --> 00:12:07,633 GUEST: And I thought, "Wow, that would be nice to have." 258 00:12:07,766 --> 00:12:09,233 G. AMORY: Alright, what, what'd you buy it for? 259 00:12:09,366 --> 00:12:12,200 GUEST: Oh yea, it was about $600 back in the late, late... 260 00:12:12,333 --> 00:12:13,900 G. AMORY: In the '80s, '90s? 261 00:12:14,066 --> 00:12:16,100 GUEST: Late '80s, early '90s. 262 00:12:16,233 --> 00:12:18,033 G. AMORY: Well, let me tell you, what we've got here is a, 263 00:12:18,166 --> 00:12:21,133 we do have the Submariner, one of the most popular brands, 264 00:12:21,266 --> 00:12:24,033 uh, uh, models that Rolex makes. 265 00:12:24,166 --> 00:12:27,433 But what distinguishes this is 266 00:12:27,566 --> 00:12:30,400 on the dial, Submariner is in red. 267 00:12:30,533 --> 00:12:31,766 GUEST: Mm-hm. 268 00:12:31,900 --> 00:12:34,633 G. AMORY: And this is a watch that has emerged over the last 269 00:12:34,766 --> 00:12:37,766 several years as being particularly collectible. 270 00:12:38,433 --> 00:12:40,866 Um, there's certain types of works, we're not going to open 271 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:45,366 up the back uh, here because we don't have the tools to do that, 272 00:12:45,500 --> 00:12:50,933 but uh, depending on what works were inside um, today, 273 00:12:51,066 --> 00:12:56,233 this watch is worth somewhere between $20 and $25,000. 274 00:12:56,366 --> 00:12:57,600 GUEST: Oh, wow. 275 00:12:57,733 --> 00:13:01,133 G. AMORY: Yes, and when I heard that you bought it for 600, 276 00:13:01,266 --> 00:13:04,300 even in the late '80s and '90s you should have paid 277 00:13:04,433 --> 00:13:07,033 considerably more than that. 278 00:13:07,166 --> 00:13:11,433 Uh, but it has become one of the most collectible models of 279 00:13:11,566 --> 00:13:15,833 Rolex watch out there in the market today and while, 280 00:13:15,966 --> 00:13:20,566 that's the story that accompanies it, it's, it's just, 281 00:13:20,700 --> 00:13:24,333 it's that value difference that we've seen increase in, 282 00:13:24,466 --> 00:13:26,866 in certain wristwatches over the years. 283 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,800 GUEST: You said 20 to 25,000. 284 00:13:28,933 --> 00:13:31,733 G. AMORY: 20 to 25, I've seen them go higher than that. 285 00:13:31,866 --> 00:13:33,166 But thank you for bringing it out. 286 00:13:33,300 --> 00:13:34,166 GUEST: Well. 287 00:13:34,300 --> 00:13:35,200 G. AMORY: It was just a wonderful time. 288 00:13:35,333 --> 00:13:36,266 GUEST: It is... 289 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:37,633 G. AMORY: I love seeing a good, good wristwatch. 290 00:13:37,766 --> 00:13:39,100 GUEST: Welp, so do I. 291 00:13:39,233 --> 00:13:40,300 (laughing). 292 00:13:40,433 --> 00:13:41,566 G. AMORY: Okay. 293 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:53,900 ♪ ♪ 294 00:13:54,300 --> 00:13:56,333 ROSS: Welcome to "Chesapeake Collectibles", 295 00:13:56,466 --> 00:13:58,966 you have brought in a grouping 296 00:13:59,100 --> 00:14:00,933 that's amongst the most exciting 297 00:14:01,066 --> 00:14:03,400 that I have been able to look at today. 298 00:14:03,533 --> 00:14:06,766 And you have a very personal story to be able to tell us. 299 00:14:06,900 --> 00:14:09,766 How did you acquire all of these artifacts and 300 00:14:09,900 --> 00:14:12,300 your personal story. 301 00:14:12,433 --> 00:14:15,600 GUEST: Well, as a child I always had an interest in space 302 00:14:15,733 --> 00:14:18,466 and it started when dad pointed out Sputnik 303 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,633 in the backyard flying overhead, and the satellite, 304 00:14:21,766 --> 00:14:23,400 and at that time, 305 00:14:23,533 --> 00:14:28,133 I had a little dime store turtle who quickly became "Sputnik" 306 00:14:28,733 --> 00:14:32,700 and when Sputnik passed away, my parents even had 307 00:14:32,833 --> 00:14:35,300 a gold ring made, of a turtle, 308 00:14:35,433 --> 00:14:37,166 and this was poor Sputnik 309 00:14:37,300 --> 00:14:42,066 and I wore this Sputnik ring as a good luck charm 310 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,233 for all of astronaut training. 311 00:14:44,366 --> 00:14:47,433 And it all started when I was a high school biology, 312 00:14:47,566 --> 00:14:49,166 chemistry and physics teacher, 313 00:14:49,300 --> 00:14:51,933 and um, it was in August and 314 00:14:52,066 --> 00:14:56,066 I was getting ready for school and I heard on the radio that 315 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:59,300 President Reagan was going to send a teacher into space. 316 00:14:59,433 --> 00:15:02,800 And when I went to my high school, my principal said, 317 00:15:02,933 --> 00:15:04,800 "Kathleen, this one's for you." 318 00:15:04,933 --> 00:15:08,366 I'd mountain climbed on every continent and, and he said, 319 00:15:08,500 --> 00:15:11,100 "Well," you know, "you've done the land, 320 00:15:11,233 --> 00:15:12,700 space is what's left." 321 00:15:12,833 --> 00:15:17,066 And so, I applied, as did almost 12,000 other teachers 322 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:21,133 and so then there was a down select to 112 and from the 323 00:15:21,266 --> 00:15:24,433 112 became the 10 of us. 324 00:15:24,566 --> 00:15:28,266 And it was through a two-week conference, we met a lot of 325 00:15:28,400 --> 00:15:30,300 the Apollo astronauts, 326 00:15:30,433 --> 00:15:34,666 a lot of the judges went through um, NASA headquarters, 327 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,633 Goddard Spaceflight Center. 328 00:15:36,766 --> 00:15:40,633 We were told that nothing was by chance, 329 00:15:40,766 --> 00:15:43,833 that every breakfast, lunch and dinner there actually was a 330 00:15:43,966 --> 00:15:48,366 NASA person, it was orchestrated that there was someone next to 331 00:15:48,500 --> 00:15:52,466 us to make sure that we, when we returned from space, 332 00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:55,500 could communicate the experience to anyone. 333 00:15:55,633 --> 00:15:58,633 So I was thrilled to become one of the 10, and to go 334 00:15:58,766 --> 00:16:00,800 through the astronaut training, 335 00:16:00,933 --> 00:16:03,533 and there's the picture of the 10 of us 336 00:16:03,666 --> 00:16:08,200 and that's the KC-135, and you can see the parabola, 337 00:16:08,333 --> 00:16:12,400 we did, we did about 20 parabolas in um, 338 00:16:12,533 --> 00:16:15,200 in 40 minutes and um, 339 00:16:15,333 --> 00:16:17,966 we experienced weightlessness and we had fun 340 00:16:18,100 --> 00:16:20,866 and in fact when we got the video it was, we were laughing 341 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:23,700 and giggling we were like a bunch of kids at recess 342 00:16:23,833 --> 00:16:25,266 in a schoolyard. 343 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:27,433 We had so much fun being weightless. 344 00:16:27,566 --> 00:16:30,933 The journey had its highs and lows, you know, losing, losing 345 00:16:31,066 --> 00:16:34,900 Christa and, and losing, being there at the Challenger crew 346 00:16:35,033 --> 00:16:38,233 and had just, I was there you know, when the accident happened 347 00:16:38,366 --> 00:16:41,333 and I'd just even finished talking to her parents. 348 00:16:41,966 --> 00:16:44,000 And Christa and I were really close, we're about 349 00:16:44,133 --> 00:16:49,500 two or three months apart in our age and um, and it was just 350 00:16:49,633 --> 00:16:53,466 an extraordinary experience, you know, beyond the, 351 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,833 beyond the um, astronaut training, 352 00:16:56,966 --> 00:17:00,666 and when I arrived home from one NASA event 353 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:04,900 I got this package and it was from this um, 354 00:17:05,033 --> 00:17:09,766 Maryland, uh retired, fighter pilot, test pilot and he wrote 355 00:17:09,900 --> 00:17:15,366 this book, "Voyages Into Airy Regions" and he sent me his 356 00:17:15,500 --> 00:17:19,866 command fighter pilot, test pilot wings and it was 357 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,566 really touching, in the letter, you know, he said, that he said, 358 00:17:24,700 --> 00:17:29,033 "I've taken these wings as high and as far and as fast as 359 00:17:29,166 --> 00:17:31,766 I'm able and it would be nice if you could take them the 360 00:17:31,900 --> 00:17:33,133 rest of the way." 361 00:17:33,266 --> 00:17:34,500 ROSS: Mm. 362 00:17:34,633 --> 00:17:37,733 GUEST: And it was just things, many, many stories like that. 363 00:17:37,866 --> 00:17:44,000 And after NASA I had gone to uh, Westinghouse and 364 00:17:44,133 --> 00:17:46,633 Westinghouse had built, in Baltimore, had built the 365 00:17:46,766 --> 00:17:50,500 Apollo camera and so they had invited Mike Collins, 366 00:17:50,633 --> 00:17:54,466 the Apollo astronaut to um, to give the keynote speech. 367 00:17:55,166 --> 00:17:59,066 So, since I was working at, at NAS, at Westinghouse and they 368 00:17:59,200 --> 00:18:00,800 knew my NASA background, 369 00:18:00,933 --> 00:18:06,366 they had me reduce that Apollo mission down to 10 minutes. 370 00:18:06,900 --> 00:18:10,900 So right before we were to go on stage I said to Mike, 371 00:18:11,033 --> 00:18:14,666 I said, "I reduced the Apollo footage to 10 minutes, 372 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:16,466 do you want to take a look at it?" 373 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:20,166 And he said, "No," he said, you know, "I, I know the mission," 374 00:18:20,300 --> 00:18:22,666 and he said, "I'm good." 375 00:18:22,800 --> 00:18:27,533 So, we're sitting there on stage and it's show time, 376 00:18:27,666 --> 00:18:31,200 there are all the Westinghouse employees and he leans over 377 00:18:31,333 --> 00:18:35,533 and he says to me, "Kathleen, I want you to narrate it." 378 00:18:35,666 --> 00:18:38,366 Well, there's no way you say no to Mike Collins, 379 00:18:38,500 --> 00:18:39,800 so I don't know, 380 00:18:39,933 --> 00:18:42,233 before I knew it, I stood up there and I said, 381 00:18:42,366 --> 00:18:46,166 "Well, I'm going to show you Mike's home movies," 382 00:18:46,300 --> 00:18:49,066 and I said, "his vacation to the moon." 383 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,233 And so, everybody laughed and I felt really you know, calm. 384 00:18:52,833 --> 00:18:56,966 And so, then we went to the VIP dining room at NASA, 385 00:18:57,100 --> 00:19:00,533 and NASA had given us these Apollo food tubes. 386 00:19:00,666 --> 00:19:04,700 So, I hid the Apollo food tube under his napkin, 387 00:19:04,833 --> 00:19:06,766 so he picks up his napkin 388 00:19:06,900 --> 00:19:10,700 and he says, "What the hell is this?" 389 00:19:10,833 --> 00:19:13,566 And I said, "Well you of all people should know what it is." 390 00:19:13,700 --> 00:19:17,833 And he said, "Yep I do" and he grabs a sharpie and he puts, 391 00:19:17,966 --> 00:19:20,466 writes on here, that you can see, 392 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:22,666 "Kathleen owes me a martini." 393 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,200 And in fact, he actually wrote it, in, when he autographed 394 00:19:27,333 --> 00:19:31,166 the book, you know, "Kathleen owes me a martini." 395 00:19:31,300 --> 00:19:35,033 So about two or three years later, at a space conference, 396 00:19:35,166 --> 00:19:38,933 there were open bars all around and there was Mike, 397 00:19:39,066 --> 00:19:41,700 talking to people, I went over to the bar, 398 00:19:41,833 --> 00:19:44,066 I got a martini and I went over and I said, 399 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:47,100 "Mike, I deliver on my promises." 400 00:19:47,233 --> 00:19:50,200 And so, it kind of had really good closure. 401 00:19:50,333 --> 00:19:51,533 ROSS: Hmm. 402 00:19:51,666 --> 00:19:54,633 GUEST: And really touching moments, 403 00:19:54,766 --> 00:19:56,533 my birthday is in July 404 00:19:56,666 --> 00:20:00,300 and NASA had a party for me in the backyard of a NASA 405 00:20:00,433 --> 00:20:04,166 executive and Christa had presented me with this plaque 406 00:20:04,300 --> 00:20:07,133 and it says, "Good friends are uplifting" 407 00:20:07,266 --> 00:20:09,333 like we, we were very close. 408 00:20:09,466 --> 00:20:11,433 And on the back of it she writes, 409 00:20:11,566 --> 00:20:14,100 "We already have a lifetime worth of memories. 410 00:20:14,233 --> 00:20:15,900 Love, Christa." 411 00:20:16,033 --> 00:20:21,366 And so, and then what was really sad, after the accident 412 00:20:21,500 --> 00:20:25,166 coming home and seeing even this Christmas card from her. 413 00:20:25,733 --> 00:20:27,766 It was great talking to you at JPL, 414 00:20:27,900 --> 00:20:31,333 I do think a mini-reunion should be scheduled for some time 415 00:20:31,700 --> 00:20:33,366 I'm looking forward to seeing you at Marshall, 416 00:20:33,500 --> 00:20:35,866 you sounded wonderful, have a happy holiday. 417 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:37,600 Love, Christa." 418 00:20:37,733 --> 00:20:43,000 And it was um, this little girl who dreamed of going into 419 00:20:43,133 --> 00:20:46,366 space and thought it would never happen that here I was 420 00:20:46,500 --> 00:20:50,300 at Johnson, you know, wearing a flight suit and, and 421 00:20:50,433 --> 00:20:52,233 going through astronaut training, 422 00:20:52,366 --> 00:20:55,266 it was just an extraordinary experience 423 00:20:55,400 --> 00:20:58,300 and the astronauts, you know, get all the credit 424 00:20:58,433 --> 00:21:01,633 as their boarding the orbiter, but it's the, it's the, it's 425 00:21:01,766 --> 00:21:04,733 the engineers, the scientists, the people that are working 426 00:21:04,866 --> 00:21:09,033 24/7 to make that flight, that journey happen. 427 00:21:09,333 --> 00:21:11,833 ROSS: Have you ever had all of this, and you had binders full 428 00:21:11,966 --> 00:21:13,766 of your whole career with all this, 429 00:21:13,900 --> 00:21:15,733 have you ever had it appraised? 430 00:21:15,866 --> 00:21:17,366 GUEST: Never. 431 00:21:17,500 --> 00:21:19,900 To me it's priceless, but I have no idea. 432 00:21:20,033 --> 00:21:22,566 In fact, through all the binders and you should see 433 00:21:22,700 --> 00:21:23,966 what I have at home. 434 00:21:24,100 --> 00:21:26,166 I would have, it would have been, 435 00:21:26,300 --> 00:21:28,133 I'd of need a U-Haul truck to come here. 436 00:21:28,266 --> 00:21:30,533 ROSS: Oh, so basically for me shooting from the hip on 437 00:21:30,666 --> 00:21:33,400 all of this, I mean it's so historic, 438 00:21:33,533 --> 00:21:35,033 to be able to place a value 439 00:21:35,166 --> 00:21:39,000 I mean is it 30,000, $50,000, 440 00:21:39,133 --> 00:21:41,466 as you say it's priceless um, 441 00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:45,266 I'm almost embarrassed to try to put a price on it. 442 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:48,400 GUEST: I was just blessed to have met, you know, 443 00:21:48,533 --> 00:21:53,133 all of the Apollo astronauts and to get their insight and 444 00:21:53,266 --> 00:21:55,766 I remember talking to Eugene Cernan, 445 00:21:55,900 --> 00:21:59,400 and we were flying here, flying there, you know, 446 00:21:59,533 --> 00:22:02,833 giving a keynote here and there and I said, "Gene," 447 00:22:02,966 --> 00:22:06,066 I said, "This is all like a kaleidoscope and it's 448 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:11,100 all reeling and I can't even process all that's happening." 449 00:22:11,233 --> 00:22:14,733 And I said, "One day this is all going to be over," 450 00:22:14,866 --> 00:22:18,500 and I said, "Does the experience diminish?" 451 00:22:18,633 --> 00:22:21,633 And it was really touching what he said, he said, 452 00:22:21,766 --> 00:22:25,600 "No, Kathleen," he said, "It actually becomes..." 453 00:22:25,733 --> 00:22:29,333 he said, "More, more relevant." 454 00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:32,566 And he said, "Because you're gonna realize there were 455 00:22:32,700 --> 00:22:37,233 people that was, were as qualified and many more 456 00:22:37,366 --> 00:22:40,966 qualified and by the grace of God you got selected and 457 00:22:41,100 --> 00:22:45,900 you actually," you know, he said something, it's not really a 458 00:22:46,033 --> 00:22:50,300 burden but, but you have, you have to give back, you have to 459 00:22:50,433 --> 00:22:54,633 share, you know, why you've been chosen and experienced this. 460 00:22:55,066 --> 00:22:56,833 ROSS: Well, I want to thank you for bringing this in to 461 00:22:56,966 --> 00:23:00,400 share with us and all of our viewers and particularly for me, 462 00:23:00,533 --> 00:23:03,133 because I want to be able to touch history. 463 00:23:03,266 --> 00:23:05,566 GUEST: Oh my gosh, well thank you so much for understanding 464 00:23:05,700 --> 00:23:07,033 and for sharing, thank you. 465 00:23:07,166 --> 00:23:08,366 ROSS: Thank you, thank you, thank you very much, 466 00:23:08,500 --> 00:23:09,600 very incredible story. 467 00:23:09,733 --> 00:23:10,833 GUEST: It was a pleasure meeting you. 468 00:23:10,966 --> 00:23:12,300 ROSS: Thank you. 469 00:23:13,933 --> 00:23:17,333 ♪ ♪ 470 00:23:17,933 --> 00:23:20,000 GENICE: Welcome to "Chesapeake Collectibles", 471 00:23:20,133 --> 00:23:22,466 so what have you brought in for us today? 472 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,133 GUEST: Thank you, um, I brought a photograph 473 00:23:25,266 --> 00:23:26,600 of my grandmother. 474 00:23:26,733 --> 00:23:30,166 Um, I came basically to find out about the frame to see if 475 00:23:30,300 --> 00:23:31,966 it was handmade. 476 00:23:32,100 --> 00:23:34,233 My grandmother was in approximate early 20s before 477 00:23:34,366 --> 00:23:36,833 she had any of her kids and uh, 478 00:23:36,966 --> 00:23:41,800 she was born in 1895 and way before my time obviously. 479 00:23:41,933 --> 00:23:45,766 But uh, the photograph was from my grandmother to my mom 480 00:23:45,900 --> 00:23:48,566 and then when my mom passed away, she wanted it to go to 481 00:23:48,700 --> 00:23:51,900 her youngest sister and my aunt passed away about 482 00:23:52,033 --> 00:23:54,033 a year ago and now it's mine. 483 00:23:54,166 --> 00:23:56,233 And I used to spend summers with my grandmother 484 00:23:56,366 --> 00:23:58,000 at her farm in Maryland. 485 00:23:58,133 --> 00:24:01,600 She lived in Forestville, Maryland and at that time 486 00:24:01,733 --> 00:24:06,266 Forestville was farms and dirt roads and such like that, 487 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,733 not like it is today, 488 00:24:07,866 --> 00:24:11,533 and she had a full-time job with the federal government. 489 00:24:11,666 --> 00:24:15,000 She ran elevators and also 490 00:24:15,133 --> 00:24:17,833 maintained her farm with my step-grandfather. 491 00:24:18,266 --> 00:24:19,866 GENICE: Well, great. 492 00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:23,433 Um, what I loved about when you brought this photograph to me, 493 00:24:23,566 --> 00:24:26,100 number one that it was a member of your family. 494 00:24:26,233 --> 00:24:27,200 GUEST: Mmm. 495 00:24:27,333 --> 00:24:28,600 GENICE: And that you had very fond memories of 496 00:24:28,733 --> 00:24:29,900 spending time with her. 497 00:24:30,033 --> 00:24:31,166 GUEST: Mm-hm. 498 00:24:31,300 --> 00:24:33,500 GENICE: And so there we have her posed quite elegantly. 499 00:24:33,633 --> 00:24:35,433 And then the frame, as you said... 500 00:24:35,566 --> 00:24:36,666 GUEST: Yeah. 501 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:39,800 GENICE: This beautiful, walnut, Victorian-style frame 502 00:24:39,933 --> 00:24:44,366 with all of this carving, these flowers, just add the 503 00:24:44,500 --> 00:24:48,300 elegance to the photograph and a lot of times we just don't 504 00:24:48,433 --> 00:24:51,766 see these pieces, as far as the framework, 505 00:24:51,900 --> 00:24:53,766 with all of the, uh, wood 506 00:24:53,900 --> 00:24:57,366 seemingly being one piece that's carved out. 507 00:24:57,500 --> 00:25:00,900 And so I was just very intrigued and drawn even more 508 00:25:01,033 --> 00:25:04,100 to the photograph because the frame enhances it. 509 00:25:04,233 --> 00:25:06,200 GUEST: Yes, I think so too, mm-hm. 510 00:25:06,333 --> 00:25:08,666 GENICE: So of course, people are most curious when they 511 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,500 come on the show, about value. 512 00:25:10,633 --> 00:25:11,800 GUEST: Mm-hm. 513 00:25:11,933 --> 00:25:13,933 GENICE: So with the photograph and the frame I would say 514 00:25:14,066 --> 00:25:20,533 together they would range anywhere from $450 to $525. 515 00:25:20,666 --> 00:25:21,833 GUEST: Okay. 516 00:25:21,966 --> 00:25:24,766 GENICE: And we are just so glad that you brought in this 517 00:25:24,900 --> 00:25:26,500 beautiful frame and photograph 518 00:25:26,633 --> 00:25:28,033 of your family member to share with us. 519 00:25:28,166 --> 00:25:29,333 GUEST: Thank you, thank you, thank you. 520 00:25:29,466 --> 00:25:30,800 GENICE: And please continue to enjoy it. 521 00:25:30,933 --> 00:25:33,133 GUEST: Thank you so much, and thanks for having me. 522 00:25:35,500 --> 00:25:39,233 ♪ ♪ 523 00:25:40,433 --> 00:25:41,933 NARRATOR: Major funding was provided by... 524 00:25:42,900 --> 00:25:44,200 Alex Cooper Auctioneers, 525 00:25:44,333 --> 00:25:47,433 since 1924 has been serving the Mid-Atlantic states, 526 00:25:47,566 --> 00:25:50,766 featuring monthly gallery antique auction sales, 527 00:25:50,900 --> 00:25:53,433 our staff can assist clients with the disposition of their 528 00:25:53,566 --> 00:25:55,033 valued possessions. 529 00:25:55,166 --> 00:25:57,166 Alex Cooper Auctioneers. 530 00:25:58,266 --> 00:26:00,400 GUEST: We had a fantastic time today, it was, 531 00:26:00,533 --> 00:26:02,433 we met lots of people, 532 00:26:02,566 --> 00:26:04,900 we were interested in what they brought and 533 00:26:05,033 --> 00:26:08,366 we were flabbergasted by the value of the watch. 534 00:26:08,500 --> 00:26:10,800 GUEST 2: Absolutely, I'm always surprised by things 535 00:26:10,933 --> 00:26:12,266 I see on "Chesapeake Collectibles," 536 00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:13,866 especially when they're mine. 537 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:15,966 GUEST 3: I found it extremely fascinating and I especially 538 00:26:16,100 --> 00:26:18,833 enjoyed talking to the other contestants or people 539 00:26:18,966 --> 00:26:20,633 that brought items in. 540 00:26:20,766 --> 00:26:23,800 GUEST 4: If you are looking to find out a little bit about 541 00:26:23,933 --> 00:26:26,433 your past, it's a great place to do that. 542 00:26:26,566 --> 00:26:28,400 GUEST 5: I definitely enjoyed myself and would encourage 543 00:26:28,533 --> 00:26:30,633 everyone to come down and try this. 544 00:26:30,766 --> 00:26:32,366 I plan to come back again 545 00:26:32,500 --> 00:26:34,533 the next time there's an opportunity. 546 00:26:34,666 --> 00:26:35,866 (overlapping conversation). 547 00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,600 GUEST 2: I can only speak for myself but this is a bucket list 548 00:26:37,733 --> 00:26:40,300 item for me, I've never missed an episode and 549 00:26:40,433 --> 00:26:42,900 I always said, "Wouldn't it be awesome if we could come on down 550 00:26:43,033 --> 00:26:45,433 and take part in your wonderful show."