1 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:08,733 >> New efforts to regulate 2 00:00:07,966 --> 00:00:11,000 homeschooling in Illinois have 3 00:00:08,733 --> 00:00:12,766 touched off a heated debate. 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,700 Backers say Illinois is one of 5 00:00:12,766 --> 00:00:15,800 12 states without any home 6 00:00:14,700 --> 00:00:17,800 schooling regulations. new 7 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:18,966 bill aims to change that by 8 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:19,633 requiring families to register 9 00:00:18,966 --> 00:00:20,333 with their local school 10 00:00:19,633 --> 00:00:22,500 district. If they plan to 11 00:00:20,333 --> 00:00:23,466 homeschool their children. 12 00:00:22,500 --> 00:00:24,600 Supporters say it's aimed at 13 00:00:23,466 --> 00:00:26,133 ensuring kids are getting the 14 00:00:24,600 --> 00:00:27,933 education they need and are 15 00:00:26,133 --> 00:00:28,733 better protected from 16 00:00:27,933 --> 00:00:29,466 potential neglect. Here's a 17 00:00:28,733 --> 00:00:32,533 bit from a hearing last week 18 00:00:29,466 --> 00:00:33,466 in Springfield. 19 00:00:32,533 --> 00:00:35,233 >> This bill is written in 20 00:00:33,466 --> 00:00:36,533 part by people who were 21 00:00:35,233 --> 00:00:37,233 homeschooled and get the need 22 00:00:36,533 --> 00:00:40,600 to balance champ children's 23 00:00:37,233 --> 00:00:42,300 rights. parents freedom to 24 00:00:40,600 --> 00:00:44,166 choose how they educate their 25 00:00:42,300 --> 00:00:44,933 kids. It provides a safe base 26 00:00:44,166 --> 00:00:48,566 line to protect kids from the 27 00:00:44,933 --> 00:00:49,266 small minority of parents who 28 00:00:48,566 --> 00:00:50,600 use homes going as a way to 29 00:00:49,266 --> 00:00:53,600 hide abuse or neglect their 30 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:54,733 children. This bill will 31 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:55,433 intimidate and discourage 32 00:00:54,733 --> 00:00:58,233 parents from choosing this 33 00:00:55,433 --> 00:00:59,100 much better option for their 34 00:00:58,233 --> 00:00:59,733 children. 35 00:00:59,100 --> 00:01:00,733 >> This bill in polls, 36 00:00:59,733 --> 00:01:01,366 additional burdens on already 37 00:01:00,733 --> 00:01:03,533 stretched local schools, 38 00:01:01,366 --> 00:01:04,866 police departments and courts. 39 00:01:03,533 --> 00:01:05,933 This bill would require school 40 00:01:04,866 --> 00:01:06,633 districts to manage increase 41 00:01:05,933 --> 00:01:09,500 administrative tasks related 42 00:01:06,633 --> 00:01:10,233 schooling. 43 00:01:09,500 --> 00:01:12,433 >> Joining us now with more 44 00:01:10,233 --> 00:01:14,466 are Shuffield say 45 00:01:12,433 --> 00:01:15,066 homeschooling parent and via 46 00:01:14,466 --> 00:01:15,766 zoom, Democratic State 47 00:01:15,066 --> 00:01:17,633 Representative Tara Costa. 48 00:01:15,766 --> 00:01:18,633 Howard, thank you both for 49 00:01:17,633 --> 00:01:21,133 joining us. Latasha Fields it 50 00:01:18,633 --> 00:01:22,233 like to begin with you. 51 00:01:21,133 --> 00:01:22,933 Please. Youth been 52 00:01:22,233 --> 00:01:24,133 homeschooling your children 53 00:01:22,933 --> 00:01:25,566 for 18 years after you took 54 00:01:24,133 --> 00:01:28,200 your eldest out of public 55 00:01:25,566 --> 00:01:28,900 school. What motivated you to 56 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:29,666 start homeschooling? Yes, a 57 00:01:28,900 --> 00:01:31,200 pleasure to be here. Thank you 58 00:01:29,666 --> 00:01:32,533 so much for having me on. 59 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:35,266 >> Well, for us, it was a call 60 00:01:32,533 --> 00:01:36,466 of God faith as Christians. it 61 00:01:35,266 --> 00:01:38,533 was about the type of shipping 62 00:01:36,466 --> 00:01:39,233 a biblical worldview. We have 63 00:01:38,533 --> 00:01:40,766 for them out of his She's a 64 00:01:39,233 --> 00:01:42,833 home-schooled. The college 65 00:01:40,766 --> 00:01:44,833 credit. We just graduated our 66 00:01:42,833 --> 00:01:45,666 second oldest in May of 2024 67 00:01:44,833 --> 00:01:50,900 and he's entering training to 68 00:01:45,666 --> 00:01:51,633 welding program with 2 more 69 00:01:50,900 --> 00:01:52,966 Fifteen-year-old signing the 9 70 00:01:51,633 --> 00:01:53,600 year-old daughter. Yes. And 71 00:01:52,966 --> 00:01:55,166 and so we also have a 72 00:01:53,600 --> 00:01:58,900 microscope. So at 10 this I 73 00:01:55,166 --> 00:02:00,900 have a lot of babies Michael 74 00:01:58,900 --> 00:02:01,700 and yes, absolutely. Yes. 75 00:02:00,900 --> 00:02:02,466 Representative Koster Howard, 76 00:02:01,700 --> 00:02:03,233 you know, we mentioned some of 77 00:02:02,466 --> 00:02:05,066 those concerns. Folks raised 78 00:02:03,233 --> 00:02:05,866 about overreach. That 79 00:02:05,066 --> 00:02:07,066 includes. 80 00:02:05,866 --> 00:02:09,033 >> You know, mandating certain 81 00:02:07,066 --> 00:02:10,033 elements of the curriculum. 82 00:02:09,033 --> 00:02:10,733 What exactly does this bill 83 00:02:10,033 --> 00:02:14,800 called for students to be 84 00:02:10,733 --> 00:02:15,566 taught? 85 00:02:14,800 --> 00:02:16,200 >> Actually, that is a ready. 86 00:02:15,566 --> 00:02:17,000 The current law here in 87 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:22,733 Illinois that they have to be 88 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:24,200 tied language Arts sorry, 89 00:02:22,733 --> 00:02:28,233 Science, Math, social studies, 90 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:28,933 health, physical education. 91 00:02:28,233 --> 00:02:33,000 already current laws. that's 92 00:02:28,933 --> 00:02:33,633 nothing new. 93 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,000 >> You know, the session 94 00:02:33,633 --> 00:02:35,700 fields Do you think any of 95 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:38,033 these sorts of registration 96 00:02:35,700 --> 00:02:40,100 requirements, for example? 97 00:02:38,033 --> 00:02:41,033 Well, that significantly 98 00:02:40,100 --> 00:02:41,766 affect you and and other 99 00:02:41,033 --> 00:02:45,200 parents who home school. Yes, 100 00:02:41,766 --> 00:02:45,966 absolutely. And so the our 101 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,000 proponents of this bill claim 102 00:02:45,966 --> 00:02:49,933 that is just formality is just 103 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,933 a farm. What we're looking at 104 00:02:49,933 --> 00:02:53,566 the bill is not just a this 105 00:02:51,933 --> 00:02:57,133 this bill, the 60 page Bill 106 00:02:53,566 --> 00:02:57,800 will entail truancy penalty, 107 00:02:57,133 --> 00:02:58,966 criminality, parents that 108 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:03,933 don't comply would have 30 109 00:02:58,966 --> 00:03:06,000 days in jail. They would have 110 00:03:03,933 --> 00:03:06,933 $500 fines and also with the 111 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:10,500 whole idea of the Corcoran, 112 00:03:06,933 --> 00:03:11,200 Kentucky Education review, the 113 00:03:10,500 --> 00:03:13,333 current way that they will 114 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,066 allow is we don't have to 115 00:03:13,333 --> 00:03:14,800 produce an educational per and 116 00:03:14,066 --> 00:03:16,533 it does cite then we would 117 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:20,333 have to satisfy the public 118 00:03:16,533 --> 00:03:21,000 education. And so because of 119 00:03:20,333 --> 00:03:23,500 will purchase at a 2021, 120 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:27,100 company at the LGBTQ+ ideology 121 00:03:23,500 --> 00:03:29,200 and the LGBT history that in 122 00:03:27,100 --> 00:03:30,133 itself is religious 123 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:30,866 persecution forest and 124 00:03:30,133 --> 00:03:33,266 violates our First Amendment. 125 00:03:30,866 --> 00:03:34,533 So we don't desire. We all 126 00:03:33,266 --> 00:03:35,300 need to produce RC car. Have 127 00:03:34,533 --> 00:03:37,800 government look at educational 128 00:03:35,300 --> 00:03:40,733 per fully out. Another process 129 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:43,800 in bill. This very disturbing 130 00:03:40,733 --> 00:03:44,633 is that the bill states that 131 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:45,366 Illinois has a fundamental 132 00:03:44,633 --> 00:03:48,666 goal for every student in the 133 00:03:45,366 --> 00:03:49,533 state of Illinois that their 134 00:03:48,666 --> 00:03:50,266 educational development is 135 00:03:49,533 --> 00:03:52,566 foot is to serve the public 136 00:03:50,266 --> 00:03:53,933 purpose of the state. And so 137 00:03:52,566 --> 00:03:56,566 we as homeschool parents, we 138 00:03:53,933 --> 00:03:57,266 do not educate our children to 139 00:03:56,566 --> 00:03:58,466 some of the purple public 140 00:03:57,266 --> 00:04:00,700 purpose of the state. So that 141 00:03:58,466 --> 00:04:01,400 in itself tells us that our 142 00:04:00,700 --> 00:04:02,133 children, according to this 143 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:06,633 bill, will be state property 144 00:04:02,133 --> 00:04:07,366 in that parallel slavery with 145 00:04:06,633 --> 00:04:08,633 families have no of timing 146 00:04:07,366 --> 00:04:09,400 where my ancestors had no 147 00:04:08,633 --> 00:04:10,033 autonomy. And so we don't want 148 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:12,633 our children to become 149 00:04:10,033 --> 00:04:13,866 property of the state. So 150 00:04:12,633 --> 00:04:14,766 there's a lot disingenuous in 151 00:04:13,866 --> 00:04:15,433 this bill. There's a lot of 152 00:04:14,766 --> 00:04:18,866 egregious check colony and 153 00:04:15,433 --> 00:04:21,666 things in this bill that we do 154 00:04:18,866 --> 00:04:22,333 not stand in terms of 155 00:04:21,666 --> 00:04:23,633 registration as Illinois 156 00:04:22,333 --> 00:04:24,766 stands, there is volunteer 157 00:04:23,633 --> 00:04:27,566 registry. So we don't have to 158 00:04:24,766 --> 00:04:28,633 be forced to register our home 159 00:04:27,566 --> 00:04:29,300 school programs. 160 00:04:28,633 --> 00:04:29,966 >> Representative Cross the 161 00:04:29,300 --> 00:04:30,666 Howard. You know how about 162 00:04:29,966 --> 00:04:32,433 that? You know, tackling at 163 00:04:30,666 --> 00:04:33,233 least first that the idea of 164 00:04:32,433 --> 00:04:34,233 sort of mandating these 165 00:04:33,233 --> 00:04:34,933 elements of the curriculum is 166 00:04:34,233 --> 00:04:37,733 that the intention of this 167 00:04:34,933 --> 00:04:39,233 bill? 168 00:04:37,733 --> 00:04:41,733 >> The intention of the bill 169 00:04:39,233 --> 00:04:42,466 is for the subjects to be 170 00:04:41,733 --> 00:04:43,433 taught. There's nothing in 171 00:04:42,466 --> 00:04:44,166 this bill that requires 172 00:04:43,433 --> 00:04:45,666 mandated curriculum that is 173 00:04:44,166 --> 00:04:49,200 taught in public school. So 174 00:04:45,666 --> 00:04:50,133 that is misinformation. That 175 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:50,900 is incorrect. That is part of 176 00:04:50,133 --> 00:04:53,866 why some of these pieces were 177 00:04:50,900 --> 00:04:56,033 written in a way to actually 178 00:04:53,866 --> 00:04:57,000 give homeschool families the 179 00:04:56,033 --> 00:04:58,000 opportunity to be as creative 180 00:04:57,000 --> 00:05:00,700 as many of them are in how 181 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,400 they teach in the end, as long 182 00:05:00,700 --> 00:05:02,166 as they're teaching the 183 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,400 subjects that all children in 184 00:05:02,166 --> 00:05:06,100 the state of Illinois are 185 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:09,466 required to be taught is 186 00:05:06,100 --> 00:05:11,133 agenda high level. There's 187 00:05:09,466 --> 00:05:13,066 nothing that requires the 188 00:05:11,133 --> 00:05:15,966 curriculum that is in public 189 00:05:13,066 --> 00:05:20,433 schools as far the criminality 190 00:05:15,966 --> 00:05:21,133 that simply not true. 191 00:05:20,433 --> 00:05:21,833 Currently truancy lodge have 192 00:05:21,133 --> 00:05:24,633 that are already built into 193 00:05:21,833 --> 00:05:25,633 the state law. So if there's a 194 00:05:24,633 --> 00:05:26,300 concern about the way the 195 00:05:25,633 --> 00:05:27,766 truancy laws are written, 196 00:05:26,300 --> 00:05:31,700 that's a different subject. 197 00:05:27,766 --> 00:05:32,533 What the declaration form does 198 00:05:31,700 --> 00:05:35,366 is make sure that we know that 199 00:05:32,533 --> 00:05:37,300 kids are alive where they are. 200 00:05:35,366 --> 00:05:38,633 We want to make sure that 201 00:05:37,300 --> 00:05:41,566 they're OK and that's what the 202 00:05:38,633 --> 00:05:42,966 declaration form does. You 203 00:05:41,566 --> 00:05:43,700 know, Latasha Fields, how 204 00:05:42,966 --> 00:05:44,300 about that? You supporters say 205 00:05:43,700 --> 00:05:45,966 this can help prevent 206 00:05:44,300 --> 00:05:46,766 potential abuse and neglect 207 00:05:45,966 --> 00:05:48,866 because 208 00:05:46,766 --> 00:05:49,866 >> students who are being 209 00:05:48,866 --> 00:05:50,633 homeschooled, although there 210 00:05:49,866 --> 00:05:51,666 isn't any evidence to back up 211 00:05:50,633 --> 00:05:53,866 that it's happening at higher 212 00:05:51,666 --> 00:05:54,566 rates. It's still certainly 213 00:05:53,866 --> 00:05:55,266 can happen in there. They 214 00:05:54,566 --> 00:05:55,933 don't have the eyes of of 215 00:05:55,266 --> 00:05:59,066 teachers or other school 216 00:05:55,933 --> 00:06:00,200 officials on them the way 217 00:05:59,066 --> 00:06:00,933 students in a public school 218 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:02,400 might. You know what's your 219 00:06:00,933 --> 00:06:06,000 take on that? Well, I believe 220 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:06,766 that as many of us over 48,000 221 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:08,700 of us in a state of Illinois 222 00:06:06,766 --> 00:06:09,633 submitted witness leave, said 223 00:06:08,700 --> 00:06:11,200 we disagree. 224 00:06:09,633 --> 00:06:12,766 >> With this position that you 225 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,666 know, that there's any idea 226 00:06:12,766 --> 00:06:14,300 that homeschool students are 227 00:06:13,666 --> 00:06:15,800 being abused. The public 228 00:06:14,300 --> 00:06:18,866 school system has failed. So 229 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:20,066 this this bill is very 230 00:06:18,866 --> 00:06:23,233 disingenuous. We have right 231 00:06:20,066 --> 00:06:24,033 now over 1000 allegations in 232 00:06:23,233 --> 00:06:25,933 Chicago, public schools and as 233 00:06:24,033 --> 00:06:28,766 of 2024 this pektor general 234 00:06:25,933 --> 00:06:29,933 say there's over 400 cases. So 235 00:06:28,766 --> 00:06:30,833 my question to represent a 236 00:06:29,933 --> 00:06:32,766 casa, how or what are you 237 00:06:30,833 --> 00:06:35,066 doing about the allegation in 238 00:06:32,766 --> 00:06:35,800 the abuses in Chicago public 239 00:06:35,066 --> 00:06:37,633 school system? Because it is 240 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,966 all about a farm where these 241 00:06:37,633 --> 00:06:40,866 babies are not being protected 242 00:06:38,966 --> 00:06:41,900 in the system that they govern 243 00:06:40,866 --> 00:06:43,933 in the system, that they have 244 00:06:41,900 --> 00:06:45,000 jurisdiction over. So that is 245 00:06:43,933 --> 00:06:47,066 that it's appalling. And so we 246 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:48,100 as home schoolers, we do not 247 00:06:47,066 --> 00:06:48,866 need a system that's already 248 00:06:48,100 --> 00:06:50,833 broken that out with it. That 249 00:06:48,866 --> 00:06:51,633 has already proven. 250 00:06:50,833 --> 00:06:52,400 >> That has failed to govern 251 00:06:51,633 --> 00:06:56,166 And we talk about proficiency. 252 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,900 We talk about educational 253 00:06:56,166 --> 00:06:59,133 proficiency in the state of 254 00:06:56,900 --> 00:07:01,100 Illinois. There's 1.9 million 255 00:06:59,133 --> 00:07:03,866 students and only 39% of those 256 00:07:01,100 --> 00:07:06,166 babies can read grade level in 257 00:07:03,866 --> 00:07:07,933 only 29% or 28% are proficient 258 00:07:06,166 --> 00:07:09,066 in math. And then you go to 259 00:07:07,933 --> 00:07:10,966 Chicago public school system 260 00:07:09,066 --> 00:07:11,933 for the black babies. They're 261 00:07:10,966 --> 00:07:13,900 doing even worse is 262 00:07:11,933 --> 00:07:15,366 unconscionable. Only 20% of 263 00:07:13,900 --> 00:07:18,166 black children, a Chicago 264 00:07:15,366 --> 00:07:19,000 public school system can read 265 00:07:18,166 --> 00:07:21,833 on 11 9% are proficient in 266 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:23,133 math. So we talk about warning 267 00:07:21,833 --> 00:07:23,866 kids have a quality education 268 00:07:23,133 --> 00:07:26,766 homeschoolers far exceed that. 269 00:07:23,866 --> 00:07:27,933 They far exceed that 270 00:07:26,766 --> 00:07:28,800 expectation. Black students 271 00:07:27,933 --> 00:07:33,000 that are home schooled have 15 272 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:33,933 to 42% points higher than 273 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,700 public school peers. So I'm 274 00:07:33,933 --> 00:07:36,433 all I'm in agreement with 275 00:07:35,700 --> 00:07:37,200 Representative Koster how we 276 00:07:36,433 --> 00:07:39,300 want quality education. That's 277 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:41,533 why we're home schooling. 278 00:07:39,300 --> 00:07:42,666 That's why we have exit from 279 00:07:41,533 --> 00:07:43,666 government education system. 280 00:07:42,666 --> 00:07:46,333 And so for us, this seems like 281 00:07:43,666 --> 00:07:47,566 a pursue like we're being 282 00:07:46,333 --> 00:07:48,433 punished for the failure of 283 00:07:47,566 --> 00:07:49,066 government education. 284 00:07:48,433 --> 00:07:50,366 Representative, how about 285 00:07:49,066 --> 00:07:52,500 that? I mean, with this at 286 00:07:50,366 --> 00:07:53,100 all, you know, go after, you 287 00:07:52,500 --> 00:07:56,100 know, quote, unquote, 288 00:07:53,100 --> 00:07:56,866 homeschooling parents. 289 00:07:56,100 --> 00:07:57,600 >> Not only that, we don't 290 00:07:56,866 --> 00:08:00,900 believe that it does in any 291 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:02,000 way, shape or form. In fact, 292 00:08:00,900 --> 00:08:03,366 some of the issues that were 293 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,433 arrayed, I think she's 294 00:08:03,366 --> 00:08:06,933 correct. We want to make sure 295 00:08:05,433 --> 00:08:07,666 that all kids have a high 296 00:08:06,933 --> 00:08:09,500 quality education. And if you 297 00:08:07,666 --> 00:08:11,500 actually take a look at the 298 00:08:09,500 --> 00:08:13,633 statistics, on the state Board 299 00:08:11,500 --> 00:08:15,766 of Education website. Our 8th 300 00:08:13,633 --> 00:08:16,933 graders are doing great. We're 301 00:08:15,766 --> 00:08:17,866 seeing those numbers come 302 00:08:16,933 --> 00:08:20,633 around for our public for our 303 00:08:17,866 --> 00:08:21,800 students here L in Illinois. 304 00:08:20,633 --> 00:08:22,766 That's a good thing. But I 305 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,733 would like to address the 306 00:08:22,766 --> 00:08:26,700 comment that she made 307 00:08:23,733 --> 00:08:28,100 regarding abuse in Chicago 308 00:08:26,700 --> 00:08:29,733 public School. We have laws on 309 00:08:28,100 --> 00:08:30,400 the book that require anyone 310 00:08:29,733 --> 00:08:32,366 comes in contact with our 311 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,000 children in our school setting 312 00:08:32,366 --> 00:08:35,966 to be have a criminal 313 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,633 background check. If you are 314 00:08:35,966 --> 00:08:39,333 being homeschooled, there's 315 00:08:36,633 --> 00:08:42,633 nothing. You are not subject 316 00:08:39,333 --> 00:08:43,900 to any laws. I want to be 317 00:08:42,633 --> 00:08:44,333 clear. 318 00:08:43,900 --> 00:08:46,900 >> 38 states. 319 00:08:44,333 --> 00:08:51,066 >> Had this. Requirement on 320 00:08:46,900 --> 00:08:52,066 the books. She declared that 321 00:08:51,066 --> 00:08:54,233 you are homeschooling your 322 00:08:52,066 --> 00:08:57,100 children. 38 states. 323 00:08:54,233 --> 00:09:00,100 >> We here in Illinois are an 324 00:08:57,100 --> 00:09:02,200 outlier. We know that this is 325 00:09:00,100 --> 00:09:03,166 happening in Florida, 326 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:05,100 Virginia, Louisiana, they are 327 00:09:03,166 --> 00:09:08,233 not making the same 328 00:09:05,100 --> 00:09:09,666 complaints. We outlier heelan 329 00:09:08,233 --> 00:09:10,366 here in Illinois where we have 330 00:09:09,666 --> 00:09:12,933 0 regulations and so we are 331 00:09:10,366 --> 00:09:14,933 not here to punish anyone. In 332 00:09:12,933 --> 00:09:16,033 fact, we want to applaud those 333 00:09:14,933 --> 00:09:16,733 families that are being 334 00:09:16,033 --> 00:09:19,400 transparent and are doing it 335 00:09:16,733 --> 00:09:21,800 that so well. But frankly, the 336 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,000 statistics that are being re 337 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:26,666 cited, there's no statistic 338 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:27,466 out there that actually says 339 00:09:26,666 --> 00:09:28,800 that home school students are 340 00:09:27,466 --> 00:09:30,966 better. That's actually 341 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:31,733 accurate. We don't know how 342 00:09:30,966 --> 00:09:32,500 many homeschool students there 343 00:09:31,733 --> 00:09:36,200 actually are here in the state 344 00:09:32,500 --> 00:09:36,966 of Illinois because they don't 345 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,366 register. They don't have to 346 00:09:36,966 --> 00:09:39,566 declare anything. And so we 347 00:09:38,366 --> 00:09:41,833 don't really know how many 348 00:09:39,566 --> 00:09:42,566 children there are. So we have 349 00:09:41,833 --> 00:09:44,800 no data that actually backs 350 00:09:42,566 --> 00:09:47,833 up. What is being said. What 351 00:09:44,800 --> 00:09:49,066 we do is that we have children 352 00:09:47,833 --> 00:09:51,133 who have passed away with died 353 00:09:49,066 --> 00:09:54,000 at the hands abusive parents. 354 00:09:51,133 --> 00:09:55,133 That is what we want act. 355 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,266 >> And representative, I know 356 00:09:55,133 --> 00:09:57,700 we've got a much more that we 357 00:09:56,266 --> 00:09:58,433 could possibly say about this,