WEBVTT 00:20.966 --> 00:22.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% >> Good evening and thanks for 00:21.766 --> 00:24.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% joining us on the week in 00:22.466 --> 00:25.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% review on them. And even a 00:24.333 --> 00:28.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% key, a nail in the coffin for 00:25.100 --> 00:29.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:47.5% the Velvet Hammer. 00:28.700 --> 00:32.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55% >> Is that his start? 00:29.300 --> 00:35.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% Conviction? Which ranks high 00:32.266 --> 00:38.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% in the annals a criminal case 00:35.100 --> 00:39.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% is tried in this court. 00:38.900 --> 00:41.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% >> The once vaunted powerful 00:39.800 --> 00:42.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% Illinois House Speaker Michael 00:41.500 --> 00:45.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% Madigan convicted on 10 counts 00:42.266 --> 00:46.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% of corruption. But it was a 00:45.800 --> 00:47.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% split verdict. Jurors spent 4 00:46.866 --> 00:49.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% months in court. They watched 00:47.966 --> 00:51.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% undercover recordings that 00:49.800 --> 00:55.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% showed the former most 00:51.866 --> 00:57.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% powerful man in Illinois 00:55.500 --> 00:59.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% politics operates So what 00:57.433 --> 01:02.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% would happen if recommend me? 00:59.733 --> 01:03.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% We support? Yeah. He had tried 01:02.900 --> 01:06.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% to convince the jury he did 01:03.633 --> 01:08.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% nothing wrong. Even as other 01:06.433 --> 01:14.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% lawmakers were snared Madigan 01:08.333 --> 01:17.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% insistent the feds had nothing 01:14.300 --> 01:18.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% on him Madigan's ruin. Came 01:17.533 --> 01:21.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% the same week. His one-time 01:18.966 --> 01:22.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% nemesis got his criminal 01:21.766 --> 01:23.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:40% record cleared. 01:22.266 --> 01:25.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% >> I'm signing this is a full 01:23.033 --> 01:26.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% pardon. Rod Blagojevich. 01:25.666 --> 01:27.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% >> I want to say to the people 01:26.466 --> 01:29.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% of Illinois to things. Number 01:27.233 --> 01:30.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% one. And is your taxes? And 01:29.100 --> 01:34.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% number 2, I didn't do it was 01:30.833 --> 01:35.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:50% all political talk. 01:34.866 --> 01:37.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% >> Meanwhile, days after Mayor 01:35.600 --> 01:39.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% Brandon Johnson promised heads 01:37.233 --> 01:40.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% will roll. There's turnover at 01:39.233 --> 01:41.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% City Hall. Chicagoans get a 01:40.966 --> 01:45.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% glimpse of the city's formerly 01:41.833 --> 01:47.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% secret gift closet and fears 01:45.633 --> 01:48.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% that federal funding won't 01:47.866 --> 01:49.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% come through Plaza project 01:48.733 --> 01:53.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% meant to keep invasive carp 01:49.466 --> 01:54.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% from entering the Great Lakes. 01:53.500 --> 01:55.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% >> And now to our week in 01:54.666 --> 01:57.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% review panel. Joining us, our 01:55.733 --> 02:00.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% Dave McKinney from WBEZ, 01:57.733 --> 02:02.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% Adriana Perez of the Chicago 02:00.000 --> 02:03.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% Tribune. Rob, part from WBBM 02:02.966 --> 02:05.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% Newsradio and our very own 02:03.866 --> 02:06.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% Matt Masterson. Let's get to 02:05.600 --> 02:08.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% it. And Dave, I'm going to 02:06.800 --> 02:10.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% begin with you because you 02:08.833 --> 02:11.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% have covered Speaker Madigan 02:10.333 --> 02:14.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% for really most of your 02:11.000 --> 02:18.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% career. How big a deal is it 02:14.666 --> 02:19.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% to see him likely going to 02:18.733 --> 02:19.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:20% prison? 02:19.066 --> 02:23.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% >> Well, I mean, he he 02:19.900 --> 02:24.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% basically ran Illinois down to 02:23.733 --> 02:25.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% you know, down to the smallest 02:24.500 --> 02:27.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% village in the state of 02:25.133 --> 02:29.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% Illinois. he he controlled 02:27.333 --> 02:30.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% everything, the purse strings, 02:29.166 --> 02:33.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% the policy. He was more 02:30.000 --> 02:34.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% powerful than than many 02:33.200 --> 02:36.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% governors were. He arguably 02:34.300 --> 02:37.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% more powerful in state. 02:36.400 --> 02:38.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% Senators were and to see him 02:37.666 --> 02:40.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% kind of in this diminish state 02:38.466 --> 02:44.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% in the courtroom, really no 02:40.666 --> 02:45.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% longer controlled his own fate 02:44.266 --> 02:46.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% and handed over to the to the 02:45.266 --> 02:49.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% jury was really something. And 02:46.033 --> 02:50.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% he wound up. you know, it's 02:49.566 --> 02:53.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% it's hard tell even there he 02:50.866 --> 02:54.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% was. He was he stoic Spinks 02:53.466 --> 02:57.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% like that's what they call 02:54.200 --> 02:59.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% them. The sphinx. you know, he 02:57.600 --> 03:01.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% looked like he was trying to 02:59.700 --> 03:03.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% maintain strong public face, a 03:01.866 --> 03:04.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% confident look. But but at the 03:03.066 --> 03:05.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% end of the day, I mean, it was 03:04.200 --> 03:07.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55% a big victory for the 03:05.766 --> 03:07.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% government. Even those a split 03:07.166 --> 03:10.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% verdict because they got him 03:07.966 --> 03:11.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% on big charges. So yet met 03:10.866 --> 03:13.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% over to you. This was a 03:11.800 --> 03:15.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% victory. Even know what 10 03:13.066 --> 03:17.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% counts. But then there were. 03:15.966 --> 03:18.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% >> Several where he was either 03:17.833 --> 03:20.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% acquitted or at the start of 03:18.833 --> 03:21.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% the week. Mike Madigan wasn't 03:20.300 --> 03:23.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% a convicted felon is now. So 03:21.100 --> 03:24.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% it's absolutely win for the 03:23.100 --> 03:25.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% government. He faces up to 20 03:24.033 --> 03:26.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% years on some of these 03:25.066 --> 03:27.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% charges, 10 5 years and other 03:26.733 --> 03:28.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% ones and we'll see a prison 03:27.433 --> 03:31.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% sentence he actually gets if 03:28.200 --> 03:31.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% he is sentenced to prison. But 03:31.066 --> 03:32.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% >> that's absolutely a win for 03:31.800 --> 03:33.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% them. They didn't have to get 03:32.566 --> 03:34.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% every single charge on here. 03:33.533 --> 03:37.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% That's sort of what this was 03:34.300 --> 03:38.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% all about. There was. 23 03:37.700 --> 03:39.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% charges that were 5 separate 03:38.800 --> 03:41.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% schemes. They do need to nail 03:39.866 --> 03:41.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% him on every single one and 03:41.033 --> 03:43.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% they didn't get the top 03:41.866 --> 03:43.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% charge. But that is still 03:43.100 --> 03:45.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% definitely a win in their 03:43.766 --> 03:46.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% books and called it historic 03:45.033 --> 03:49.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% victory. And you can see why 03:46.500 --> 03:50.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% they would. The prosecutors 03:49.533 --> 03:51.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% are absolutely happy with the 03:50.833 --> 03:53.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% verdict. I don't think they 03:51.533 --> 03:53.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% were thrilled. I think they 03:53.333 --> 03:54.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55% absolutely wanted the 03:53.966 --> 03:56.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% racketeering charge to be a 03:54.700 --> 03:57.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% guilty verdict for Madigan 03:56.633 --> 03:58.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% there. They didn't get that, 03:57.800 --> 04:00.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% but they got them in water for 03:58.900 --> 04:01.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% the and bribery and they 04:00.600 --> 04:04.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% convinced the jury that this 04:01.566 --> 04:04.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% was a person who was correct. 04:04.066 --> 04:05.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% So record hearing was that 04:04.766 --> 04:06.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% overarching charge that you 04:05.466 --> 04:09.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% talked about where they you 04:06.166 --> 04:10.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:45% described it as a 04:09.666 --> 04:11.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% >> Madigan enterprise that 04:10.366 --> 04:11.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% they he and co-defendant 04:11.033 --> 04:13.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% Mike mclane were running this 04:11.766 --> 04:14.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% as a criminal enterprise met. 04:13.200 --> 04:17.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:52.5% You talked about the 04:14.833 --> 04:18.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% sentencing. It could be a 04:17.100 --> 04:20.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% addition to press prison. 04:18.200 --> 04:21.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% There's also a forfeiture 04:20.000 --> 04:23.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% hearing they're looking take 04:21.800 --> 04:24.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% his money. What what's going 04:23.900 --> 04:26.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% on there? Right? So that's 04:24.633 --> 04:27.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% going to made initially want 04:26.066 --> 04:27.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% to do it immediately after the 04:27.166 --> 04:30.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% verdict, assuming he was found 04:27.933 --> 04:31.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% guilty of these charges. So 04:30.000 --> 04:34.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% >> the money that changed 04:31.100 --> 04:35.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% hands in these convictions. 04:34.033 --> 04:35.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% They didn't all go into 04:35.133 --> 04:36.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% Madigan's pocket was obviously 04:35.866 --> 04:39.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% paid to a lot of these 04:36.500 --> 04:40.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% contractors who can or jobs. 04:39.900 --> 04:41.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% But Matt, again, as I going to 04:40.666 --> 04:42.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% be liable for that. So some of 04:41.800 --> 04:43.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% this money is going to 04:42.433 --> 04:45.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% possibly be clawed back by the 04:43.766 --> 04:46.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% government. There's gonna be a 04:45.100 --> 04:47.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% lot of briefing that used to 04:46.166 --> 04:49.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% be done on this, but it's 04:47.966 --> 04:50.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% going to be some sort of 04:49.166 --> 04:51.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% financial hit likely to Matt 04:50.933 --> 04:53.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% again following his conviction 04:51.733 --> 04:53.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% as well. So in the millions of 04:53.166 --> 04:55.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% dollars, it's it could be up 04:53.933 --> 04:56.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% to that. We'll see what amount 04:55.933 --> 04:57.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% actually comes out of it. But 04:56.666 --> 04:58.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% that was like the initial 04:57.833 --> 04:59.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% range was as was a couple 04:58.500 --> 05:02.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% million dollars that it could 04:59.300 --> 05:04.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% have been targeted over to you 05:02.900 --> 05:05.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:50% because this really 05:04.366 --> 05:08.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% encapsulated House things 05:05.100 --> 05:11.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% worked in Springfield. 05:08.966 --> 05:11.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% >> That the speaker, those in 05:11.100 --> 05:12.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% power would say, hey, you know 05:11.866 --> 05:15.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% somebody that to be a good fit 05:12.666 --> 05:16.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% for that job that the jury 05:15.200 --> 05:18.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% found his co-defendant, 05:16.233 --> 05:19.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% longtime friend and lobbyist 05:18.133 --> 05:19.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% Michael McClain. He said they 05:19.233 --> 05:22.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% believe that it was just 05:19.900 --> 05:23.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% lobbying, nothing illegal. How 05:22.166 --> 05:25.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% do you parse out what we 05:23.500 --> 05:27.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% learned history in terms of 05:25.233 --> 05:28.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% how things work behind closed 05:27.600 --> 05:31.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% doors? Well, I talked to the 05:28.333 --> 05:32.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% foreman of the of the jury. 05:31.533 --> 05:33.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% >> And it seemed like and I 05:32.266 --> 05:34.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% think when you go to a trial 05:33.000 --> 05:37.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% where a situation like this 05:34.433 --> 05:38.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% where there are a lot of 05:37.366 --> 05:41.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% details and everything really 05:38.533 --> 05:42.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% rests on. How do you interpret 05:41.466 --> 05:43.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% certain words? How do you 05:42.300 --> 05:44.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% interpret certain phrases? How 05:43.033 --> 05:47.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% do you interpret someone's 05:44.300 --> 05:51.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% tone on a tape? And when it 05:47.933 --> 05:52.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% came to talk about it was 05:51.866 --> 05:53.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% there is there is no verdict 05:52.600 --> 05:56.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% on the racketeering charge. 05:53.466 --> 05:58.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% The big in the jury room. That 05:56.600 --> 05:59.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% was the last one. That was the 05:58.300 --> 05:59.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% lead. They agreed on day one 05:59.033 --> 06:03.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% of deliberations that they're 05:59.833 --> 06:06.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% going handle racketeering last 06:03.900 --> 06:08.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% and he was about to be found 06:06.166 --> 06:10.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% not guilty on racketeering. 06:08.166 --> 06:11.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% They had one holdout want to 06:10.166 --> 06:13.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% convict and that is why they 06:11.366 --> 06:14.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% did not have a verdict on that 06:13.700 --> 06:15.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:45% particular count. 06:14.266 --> 06:18.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% >> has been a juror in that 06:15.000 --> 06:18.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:37.5% room. No date. 06:18.266 --> 06:20.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% >> At least one juror seemed 06:18.966 --> 06:22.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% to have been put off by things 06:20.566 --> 06:24.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% that she heard from Again, if 06:22.500 --> 06:27.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% it was a at either way, the 06:24.800 --> 06:28.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% juror put off by Madigan. 06:27.900 --> 06:30.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:50% >> Sort downplaying 06:28.433 --> 06:32.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% relationships, including with 06:30.066 --> 06:35.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% McLean. What do you make of 06:32.200 --> 06:36.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% that and how he's taking the 06:35.966 --> 06:37.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% stand impacted the outcome? 06:36.666 --> 06:38.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% Well, that was a dramatic 06:37.333 --> 06:41.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% moment. A big decision to put 06:38.066 --> 06:43.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:45% him on the stand. 06:41.266 --> 06:44.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% >> It was a situation where, 06:43.200 --> 06:45.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% you know, it started out and 06:44.366 --> 06:46.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:52.5% are very comfortable 06:45.433 --> 06:47.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% questioning from his defense 06:46.333 --> 06:48.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% lawyer. We we heard all sorts 06:47.066 --> 06:50.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% of biographical details about 06:48.366 --> 06:50.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% him about how he came from a 06:50.333 --> 06:52.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% household where they, you 06:50.966 --> 06:53.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% know, as parents didn't tell 06:52.733 --> 06:56.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% him, they loved him, for 06:53.400 --> 06:57.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% example, things like that. You 06:56.266 --> 06:58.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% know, the more he got into it, 06:57.033 --> 06:59.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% the more he talked about under 06:58.800 --> 07:00.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% defense questioning it opened 06:59.933 --> 07:02.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% the door for the feds to come 07:00.966 --> 07:05.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% hard at him and that included 07:02.633 --> 07:07.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% opening up a tape where they 07:05.766 --> 07:08.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% had fought to keep it out. It 07:07.133 --> 07:08.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% was called the bandits tape 07:08.000 --> 07:13.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% where he was recording the 07:08.666 --> 07:15.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% McLean and him talking about 07:13.266 --> 07:16.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% these go subcontractors, a 07:15.433 --> 07:16.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% comment and how they were 07:16.100 --> 07:18.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% making out like bandits for 07:16.800 --> 07:20.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% very little work. And so that 07:18.400 --> 07:20.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% would be left. They laughed 07:20.066 --> 07:21.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% about it and that that that 07:20.800 --> 07:22.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% created this kind of thing. 07:21.866 --> 07:25.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% And I think one of the things 07:22.600 --> 07:28.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% the people 0 in on and that 07:25.133 --> 07:29.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% discussion in the in the 07:28.100 --> 07:30.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% testimony him talking about, 07:29.733 --> 07:33.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% well, my friendship with 07:30.400 --> 07:34.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% McClain has ended. I mean, he 07:33.700 --> 07:36.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% it surprise people because 07:34.400 --> 07:38.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% it's a prize jurors because, 07:36.300 --> 07:39.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% you know, there I think, over 07:38.100 --> 07:43.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% 150 audio recordings that got 07:39.700 --> 07:45.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% played and many of them, we're 07:43.133 --> 07:46.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% of Madigan and McLean talking 07:45.133 --> 07:47.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% about, you know, dinner plans 07:46.033 --> 07:50.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% and their families were very 07:47.666 --> 07:52.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% close and, you know, there was 07:50.733 --> 07:54.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% just poor team written that he 07:52.633 --> 07:56.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% really I will what stand and 07:54.666 --> 07:58.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% stand on the hill with my 07:56.633 --> 07:59.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% musket. you know, right at the 07:58.633 --> 08:01.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% ready, you know, to defend you 07:59.600 --> 08:02.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% against all things immunity. 08:01.700 --> 08:03.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% Interviewed McLean, I believe 08:02.400 --> 08:05.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% he was coming out of a dinner 08:03.933 --> 08:07.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% and the he had been questioned 08:05.066 --> 08:08.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% by the feds asked what turn on 08:07.600 --> 08:10.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% the speaker and he said no, 08:08.766 --> 08:10.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% yeah. He said, you know, would 08:10.000 --> 08:12.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% an act of betrayal, not only 08:10.800 --> 08:14.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% against Madigan but against 08:12.466 --> 08:15.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:22.5% himself. 08:14.366 --> 08:16.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% >> And so it was really 08:15.033 --> 08:18.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% surprising to hear Matic and 08:16.066 --> 08:18.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% say you they weren't friends, 08:18.133 --> 08:19.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:10% but 08:18.433 --> 08:23.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% >> the thing was that the 08:19.266 --> 08:25.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% juror said that that was that 08:23.166 --> 08:25.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% you know, it created a mixed 08:25.166 --> 08:26.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% bag from attic. And because 08:25.866 --> 08:27.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% then it became created the 08:26.566 --> 08:29.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% storm where they could hear 08:27.266 --> 08:30.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% with their own years. How 08:29.433 --> 08:30.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% these 2 interact and how many 08:30.166 --> 08:35.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% dinners they went to together. 08:30.933 --> 08:36.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:52.5% And yet. It affected 08:35.933 --> 08:38.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% credibility. You know, man was 08:36.966 --> 08:38.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% the real problem. He also 08:38.233 --> 08:40.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% talked about helping out a 08:38.900 --> 08:41.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% woman. He said that he met at 08:40.900 --> 08:43.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% a block party, said this was 08:41.833 --> 08:44.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% just somebody might randomly 08:43.333 --> 08:45.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% try to help her get a job. The 08:44.866 --> 08:46.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% Fed said hammered on this and 08:45.633 --> 08:47.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% is it later turned out she was 08:46.400 --> 08:49.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% the wife of an alderman. This 08:47.166 --> 08:50.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% was a politically connected 08:49.700 --> 08:51.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:20% person. 08:50.600 --> 08:52.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% >> That meeting already knew 08:51.300 --> 08:53.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% he didn't just meet her at a 08:52.066 --> 08:54.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% block party. And jurors heard 08:53.466 --> 08:55.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% that put some doubt in your 08:54.233 --> 08:56.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% mind together that he's 08:55.066 --> 08:57.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% telling the complete truth 08:56.633 --> 08:58.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% when he's up there seems like 08:57.566 --> 09:01.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% it very unforced error there 08:58.600 --> 09:02.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% for somebody that had this 09:01.633 --> 09:03.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:35% reputation of 09:02.633 --> 09:03.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55% >> playing chess when 09:03.233 --> 09:04.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% everybody else is playing 09:03.900 --> 09:06.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% checkers. The adage I've heard 09:04.900 --> 09:07.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% I don't know how many times 09:06.166 --> 09:10.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% since I started covering 09:07.033 --> 09:12.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% Illinois politics. What do you 09:10.766 --> 09:13.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% make of that? That Madigan who 09:12.700 --> 09:15.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% was supposed to be smarter, 09:13.433 --> 09:19.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% wrote the rules. It's now in 09:15.933 --> 09:21.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% trouble for breaking them. 09:19.366 --> 09:22.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% >> Well, I guess the I guess 09:21.400 --> 09:24.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% but the interpretation is or 09:22.200 --> 09:26.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% the lesson is, is that 09:24.566 --> 09:28.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% everyone it comes to you 09:26.400 --> 09:29.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% eventually. And even if you've 09:28.533 --> 09:32.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% been doing it for decades, 09:29.233 --> 09:33.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% even if you wrote the rules 09:32.000 --> 09:35.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% yourself, even if you are so 09:33.033 --> 09:37.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% detail oriented you thought 09:35.633 --> 09:37.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:52.5% you had every single 09:37.133 --> 09:40.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:50% contingency covered 09:37.666 --> 09:43.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% eventually. Over a long enough 09:40.233 --> 09:45.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% time Horizon. You make a 09:43.433 --> 09:46.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% mistake and that's what 09:45.666 --> 09:47.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% happened, especially when the 09:46.566 --> 09:48.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% feds are listening. Well, and 09:47.366 --> 09:49.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% when you consider, I think on 09:48.100 --> 09:52.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% the stand for 4 days, right? 09:49.666 --> 09:55.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% >> That's a lot of time. A lot 09:52.433 --> 09:57.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% of room to be making unforced 09:55.566 --> 09:58.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% error. speaking of time, Dave, 09:57.300 --> 10:00.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% how did met again last so long 09:58.966 --> 10:01.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% in the Sun-Times broke this 10:00.366 --> 10:02.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% story that Alderman Danny 10:01.066 --> 10:04.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% Solis was cooperating with the 10:02.100 --> 10:06.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% feds back January of 2019. 10:04.800 --> 10:07.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% >> And then he denied. We 10:06.300 --> 10:08.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% heard that tape earlier back 10:07.900 --> 10:09.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% in October of 2019, that 10:08.766 --> 10:13.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% Madigan said he was not a 10:09.433 --> 10:14.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% target of anything. And then 6 10:13.833 --> 10:15.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% months till after the ComEd 10:14.533 --> 10:16.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:52.5% Deferred Prosecution 10:15.566 --> 10:20.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% agreement, he lasted the 10:16.366 --> 10:22.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% speaker of the House. How? 10:20.033 --> 10:22.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% >> Well, I mean, was just sort 10:22.133 --> 10:23.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% of a drip, drip, drip effect, 10:22.900 --> 10:25.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% because, you know, you 10:23.500 --> 10:26.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% fast-forward from that point 10:25.166 --> 10:27.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% to to the summer of 2020 and 10:26.800 --> 10:29.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% that's one the Deferred 10:27.600 --> 10:31.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% prosecution agreement with 10:29.700 --> 10:32.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% ComEd came out with 8 that the 10:31.800 --> 10:33.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% whole scheme involving these 10:32.900 --> 10:35.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% go subcontractors and Madigan 10:33.633 --> 10:38.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% and the bribery all kind of 10:35.666 --> 10:39.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% came to light and it put 10:38.500 --> 10:41.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% pressure on a Madigan in a way 10:39.866 --> 10:43.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% that he had scrutiny on him in 10:41.633 --> 10:44.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% a way never before had to deal 10:43.066 --> 10:45.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% with. There was a there was a 10:44.133 --> 10:47.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% committee that was formed in 10:45.633 --> 10:49.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% the House. The Republicans 10:47.933 --> 10:50.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% pushed hard to get there to to 10:49.566 --> 10:54.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% investigate what was in that 10:50.333 --> 10:55.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% deferred prosecution agreement 10:54.133 --> 10:56.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% with comment how did he stick 10:55.233 --> 10:59.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% around? I mean, there was an 10:56.066 --> 10:59.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% example where we're Democrats, 10:59.166 --> 11:00.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% including that the House 10:59.800 --> 11:02.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% speaker does that now House 11:00.500 --> 11:04.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% shared that committee. You 11:02.300 --> 11:06.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% know, they wouldn't. They 11:04.066 --> 11:07.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:52.5% blocked Madigan from 11:06.166 --> 11:08.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% testifying in front of this 11:07.466 --> 11:08.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% committee. They they have they 11:08.266 --> 11:10.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% shut the committee down 11:08.900 --> 11:12.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55% before. There are any 11:10.133 --> 11:13.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% sanctions given against 11:12.333 --> 11:14.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% Madigan. And so, you know, it 11:13.200 --> 11:15.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% was just you know, death by 11:14.133 --> 11:20.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% 1000 cuts politically for him. 11:15.866 --> 11:21.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% And then finally had to go. 11:20.100 --> 11:24.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% >> You know, we cannot escape 11:21.333 --> 11:26.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% the irony that has met again 11:24.200 --> 11:27.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% faces really his ruin. Former 11:26.300 --> 11:29.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% Governor Rod Blagojevich this 11:27.033 --> 11:32.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% week was pardoned. Now they 11:29.433 --> 11:34.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% were both Democrats, but they 11:32.033 --> 11:35.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% did not get along. So first of 11:34.766 --> 11:37.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% all, what is the practical 11:35.466 --> 11:38.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:52.5% impact of apartment? 11:37.933 --> 11:39.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% >> The practical impact of a 11:38.666 --> 11:42.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:50% part of Boyd to Rod 11:39.266 --> 11:44.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% Blagojevich. Is that his 11:42.833 --> 11:44.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% record is clean all that stuff 11:44.133 --> 11:46.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% remember from 16 years ago, 11:44.966 --> 11:47.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% bleeping golden, the tapes, 11:46.500 --> 11:50.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% all that it's it's off the 11:47.400 --> 11:52.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% books for him now. He was 11:50.300 --> 11:54.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% impeached and removed from 11:52.333 --> 11:57.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% office. So he cannot run for a 11:54.333 --> 11:58.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% statewide office again, 11:57.333 --> 11:58.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% however, because his record is 11:58.100 --> 12:03.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% clean, that could set him up 11:58.833 --> 12:03.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:52.5% to run for Senate in 12:03.000 --> 12:04.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% Twenty-twenty 6. He could run 12:03.733 --> 12:07.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% for his old House seat if you 12:04.566 --> 12:09.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% wanted to. So he can't run for 12:07.200 --> 12:12.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% federal office and it would be 12:09.400 --> 12:13.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% key. I wonder if those gears 12:12.333 --> 12:15.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% are turning in his head right 12:13.066 --> 12:16.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% now, making another run for it 12:15.300 --> 12:16.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% and possibly getting that 12:16.200 --> 12:19.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% Senate seat, that not enough 12:16.933 --> 12:20.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% that Senate seat specifically, 12:19.466 --> 12:23.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% but that position in the U.S. 12:20.866 --> 12:24.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% Senate that he was thinking 12:23.500 --> 12:25.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% about 16 years ago when Barack 12:24.266 --> 12:26.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% Obama was like the president, 12:25.000 --> 12:27.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% he would not be surprised. 12:26.633 --> 12:30.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% He's never turned off that the 12:27.400 --> 12:30.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% politician in himself. 12:30.133 --> 12:33.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% >> Let's hear from President 12:30.866 --> 12:34.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% Trump has to his reasoning. 12:33.566 --> 12:35.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% Trump saying that that was set 12:34.333 --> 12:39.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:10% up. 12:35.866 --> 12:40.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% >> It was Ed sort of a 12:39.366 --> 12:43.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% terrible injustice. They just 12:40.133 --> 12:44.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% were after him. They go after 12:43.266 --> 12:47.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% a lot of people. a bit people 12:44.000 --> 12:49.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% that the other so I think is a 12:47.200 --> 12:50.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% a just a very fine person. 12:49.933 --> 12:54.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% They fake charges and the big 12:50.933 --> 12:54.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:35% lie was told. 12:54.166 --> 12:55.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% >> By the prosecutor in his 12:54.866 --> 12:57.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% office that did to me and my 12:55.633 --> 12:59.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% family what they did. But it's 12:57.533 --> 12:59.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% over. President Trump saw what 12:59.066 --> 13:02.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% happened. And I would just 12:59.733 --> 13:03.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% think it is that when someone 13:02.100 --> 13:04.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% goes to something like we went 13:03.533 --> 13:07.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% through and he's gone through 13:04.433 --> 13:07.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% what he's gone through. It 13:07.033 --> 13:13.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:45% creates a certain 13:07.533 --> 13:14.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:37.5% understanding. 13:13.400 --> 13:14.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% >> Blagojevich, Dave, never 13:14.066 --> 13:16.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% apologized peers he didn't 13:14.766 --> 13:18.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% need to. That seemed like the 13:16.433 --> 13:18.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% same Blagojevich that you 13:18.233 --> 13:20.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% covered as governor. Well, I 13:18.933 --> 13:23.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% mean, you know, he had his 13:20.233 --> 13:24.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% sentencing. He did apologize 13:23.533 --> 13:26.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% in federal court when he was 13:24.500 --> 13:26.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% trying to win mercy from 13:26.200 --> 13:28.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% former judge. The late former 13:26.966 --> 13:31.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:47.5% judge James Zagel. 13:28.333 --> 13:33.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% >> That sounded just like him. 13:31.200 --> 13:34.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% But but, you know, let's let's 13:33.300 --> 13:37.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% not forget that that case. And 13:34.366 --> 13:37.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% he was tried twice. Both 13:37.333 --> 13:38.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55% instances resulted in 13:37.933 --> 13:42.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% convictions. The first case 13:38.633 --> 13:43.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% was just one. But then other 13:42.066 --> 13:45.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% with 17 counts. And so a jury 13:43.133 --> 13:46.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% of 12 people look at those 13:45.800 --> 13:49.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% counts and decided he was 13:46.466 --> 13:52.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% guilty of them. So, you know 13:49.700 --> 13:55.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% the argument about things 13:52.466 --> 13:55.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% being, you know, trumped up 13:55.033 --> 13:57.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% and use that word here. But 13:55.733 --> 13:59.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% the idea that these charges 13:57.066 --> 14:00.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% were were embellished or 13:59.300 --> 14:02.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% whatever. I mean, a jury had a 14:00.033 --> 14:03.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% chance to to look at that and 14:02.100 --> 14:06.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% decide as did his peers. And 14:03.966 --> 14:07.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% it was nearly unanimous in the 14:06.466 --> 14:10.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% legislature. Only member of 14:07.466 --> 14:10.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% the legislature and that was 14:10.133 --> 14:11.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:47.5% his sister-in-law. 14:10.900 --> 14:12.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% >> Voted with Blagojevich at 14:11.900 --> 14:15.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% the time in terms of his 14:12.566 --> 14:16.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% removal from office. Know, 14:15.266 --> 14:18.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% Matt Blagojevich, Trump, of 14:16.633 --> 14:18.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% course, talking about the 14:18.066 --> 14:23.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% weaponization of justice. And 14:18.800 --> 14:24.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% this comes as you have and the 14:23.166 --> 14:25.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% attorney general of the United 14:24.200 --> 14:25.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% States now putting on pressure 14:25.233 --> 14:30.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% to drop corruption charges 14:25.933 --> 14:32.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% against New York's mayor up is 14:30.500 --> 14:34.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% this the end of the U.S. 14:32.466 --> 14:37.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% attorney's office going after 14:34.466 --> 14:41.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% politicians. When you have 14:37.300 --> 14:42.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% president sees this as the 14:41.433 --> 14:43.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:52.5% weaponization of the 14:42.366 --> 14:43.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% Department of Justice. I don't 14:43.133 --> 14:45.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% think it'll be the end, but 14:43.833 --> 14:46.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% we'll see probably changes and 14:45.400 --> 14:46.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% how it's done. I was down. It 14:46.133 --> 14:48.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% was very interesting that the 14:46.866 --> 14:49.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% Madigan trials going on while 14:48.166 --> 14:49.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:15% these 14:49.000 --> 14:50.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% >> changes are happening in 14:49.833 --> 14:53.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% Washington and just to see a 14:50.566 --> 14:54.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% federal prosecution go this 14:53.200 --> 14:57.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% way they might not look like 14:54.533 --> 14:58.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% this for quite awhile with a 14:57.166 --> 15:01.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% lot U.S. attorneys prosecuting 14:58.433 --> 15:01.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% these types of cases are 15:01.200 --> 15:02.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% looking into corruption cases 15:01.933 --> 15:03.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% like like the dropped charges 15:02.666 --> 15:06.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:35% against Eric. 15:03.100 --> 15:07.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% >> Adams in New York, possible 15:06.500 --> 15:08.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% there's less of these cases. I 15:07.266 --> 15:10.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% don't think they'll ever be 0 15:08.000 --> 15:13.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:35% of that. Now. 15:10.766 --> 15:14.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% >> All right. Let's move on 15:13.933 --> 15:16.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% because Trump, of course, been 15:14.700 --> 15:18.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% very busy otherwise in he Oval 15:16.800 --> 15:19.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% Office, he's already held up 15:18.033 --> 15:20.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% some federal money promised to 15:19.066 --> 15:23.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:50% organizations and 2 15:20.966 --> 15:24.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% governments. And that has 15:23.033 --> 15:25.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% Illinois leaders, including 15:24.166 --> 15:28.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% Governor JB Pritzker, wary. So 15:25.200 --> 15:30.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% Adrianna over to you. The 15:28.933 --> 15:31.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% governor now stalling the 15:30.066 --> 15:32.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% project that is meant to keep 15:31.733 --> 15:35.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% invasive carp from reaching 15:32.600 --> 15:36.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% the Great Lakes. What is this 15:35.566 --> 15:37.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% project? This project going to 15:36.833 --> 15:41.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% be located at Brandon Road 15:37.533 --> 15:43.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% Lock and Dam in Joliet. idea 15:41.600 --> 15:44.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:47.5% is to lay are some 15:43.433 --> 15:46.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% technologies to stop invasive 15:44.200 --> 15:50.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% carp from going upstream. And 15:46.333 --> 15:52.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% that includes a bubble barrier 15:50.433 --> 15:53.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% sound barrier a couple bubble 15:52.266 --> 15:54.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% and found barriers but also 15:53.400 --> 15:55.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% flushing lack. So a lot of 15:54.300 --> 15:57.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% different things to really 15:55.000 --> 15:58.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:52.5% have that like last. 15:57.266 --> 15:59.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% >> Sort of line of defense 15:58.366 --> 16:00.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% against them because currently 15:59.866 --> 16:02.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% we're relying on electric 16:00.600 --> 16:04.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55% barriers, barriers in 16:02.433 --> 16:05.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% Romeoville that are not very 16:04.533 --> 16:08.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% reliable in these carper. Kobe 16:05.733 --> 16:10.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% is Illinois has renamed them. 16:08.700 --> 16:12.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% >> Are particularly dangerous. 16:10.666 --> 16:15.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% Yes, well, the problem with 16:12.766 --> 16:16.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:50% Kobe is Silver Carp 16:15.733 --> 16:17.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% specifically is that they are 16:16.500 --> 16:20.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% bottom feeders. So they feed 16:17.266 --> 16:21.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% off of playing time, mostly. 16:20.800 --> 16:22.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% And that means that they can 16:21.533 --> 16:26.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% out compete and starved native 16:22.733 --> 16:27.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% fish and mussel populations, 16:26.233 --> 16:28.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% which would be would a lot of 16:27.566 --> 16:29.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% negative impacts on the 16:28.200 --> 16:32.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% fishing industry in the Great 16:29.666 --> 16:34.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% Lakes. The other problem is 16:32.766 --> 16:35.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% that something that biology 16:34.400 --> 16:39.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% got scary easily? When there's 16:35.133 --> 16:40.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% a loud noise from like boats. 16:39.133 --> 16:42.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% So I actually had the chance 16:40.066 --> 16:43.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% to go to downstream inland 16:42.533 --> 16:45.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% Illinois River to the village 16:43.866 --> 16:48.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% Bath where they already are 16:45.666 --> 16:49.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% infested with silver carp and 16:48.500 --> 16:52.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% when you got boats, they 16:49.833 --> 16:53.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% really fly out of the 8 like 16:52.800 --> 16:54.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% the jump. They can jump as 16:53.500 --> 16:55.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% high as 5 feet and they can 16:54.700 --> 17:01.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% hurt people. I too have been 16:55.733 --> 17:02.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% good at that. masks and that 17:01.500 --> 17:02.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:17.5% there. 17:02.333 --> 17:03.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% >> Really big in Hardin 17:02.966 --> 17:05.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% spiking, although events what 17:03.733 --> 17:06.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% does this signify to you that 17:05.666 --> 17:10.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% Illinois is going to hold up 17:06.733 --> 17:12.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% other projects that this is 17:10.333 --> 17:13.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% this is one but more federal 17:12.600 --> 17:14.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% funding could be either held 17:13.800 --> 17:18.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% or that Illinois is going to 17:14.666 --> 17:19.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% be fearful of I think that's 17:18.400 --> 17:19.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% the question mark. For every 17:19.100 --> 17:22.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% federal outlay to the state of 17:19.866 --> 17:22.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% Illinois, that's already been. 17:22.266 --> 17:24.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% >> Appropriated and approved 17:22.966 --> 17:25.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% by the Congress to be spent in 17:24.566 --> 17:26.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% the state of Illinois. And we 17:25.366 --> 17:28.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% talk about the Asian carp 17:26.033 --> 17:29.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:52.5% mitigation, but also 17:28.100 --> 17:30.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% >> the red line expansion to 17:29.033 --> 17:34.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% 100 30th Street. That's 17:30.966 --> 17:35.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% another big question you know, 17:34.200 --> 17:38.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% Metro got some federal money 17:35.133 --> 17:39.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% to buy those a self-propelled 17:38.766 --> 17:40.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% battery powered railcars. 17:39.400 --> 17:40.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% What's going to happen with 17:40.133 --> 17:45.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% that? They're supposed to be 17:40.866 --> 17:45.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% delivered in 2028. So until we 17:45.033 --> 17:50.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% got a handle or until the 17:45.800 --> 17:52.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% courts make rulings on some of 17:50.833 --> 17:53.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% the questions regarding the 17:52.833 --> 17:54.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:50% funding spigot from 17:53.400 --> 17:54.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% Washington. There will be a 17:54.100 --> 17:57.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% lot of question marks about 17:54.866 --> 18:00.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% nearly every federal out late 17:57.233 --> 18:01.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% to the state. Adrienne, why 18:00.166 --> 18:02.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% this project the many areas of 18:01.933 --> 18:03.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% certainty and wear state 18:02.966 --> 18:05.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% government depends on federal 18:03.700 --> 18:06.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:50% money flowing down. 18:05.566 --> 18:10.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% >> Why do you suppose this 18:06.700 --> 18:11.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% Brandon Road, cart? It 18:10.400 --> 18:12.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% projects was the one that was 18:11.133 --> 18:14.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% chosen to be paused while it's 18:12.566 --> 18:16.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% my understanding from the 18:14.466 --> 18:16.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% governor's office that 18:16.333 --> 18:17.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% currently the Illinois 18:16.933 --> 18:20.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55% Department of Natural 18:17.533 --> 18:21.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% Resources doesn't have access 18:20.966 --> 18:22.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:10% to. 18:21.766 --> 18:23.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% >> 170 million dollars of 18:22.433 --> 18:25.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% federal funding for different 18:23.800 --> 18:26.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% infrastructure projects across 18:25.366 --> 18:27.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% the state. So it's like 70 18:26.100 --> 18:29.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% projects in terms of like 18:27.900 --> 18:31.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% cleaning up old mines. And in 18:29.733 --> 18:33.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% this case, it has an itself 18:31.433 --> 18:35.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% halted the Brandon Road 18:33.300 --> 18:35.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% project. It's probably one of 18:35.200 --> 18:36.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:47.5% the most expensive 18:35.933 --> 18:40.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% infrastructure products at the 18:36.800 --> 18:44.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% IDNR has been involved in and 18:40.100 --> 18:45.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% the thing is that right now 18:44.666 --> 18:45.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% the funding for the first 18:45.300 --> 18:48.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% phase of the project is 18:45.933 --> 18:50.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% located. It is already 18:48.600 --> 18:51.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% available. issue is that 18:50.500 --> 18:54.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% because there's no certainty 18:51.533 --> 18:55.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% that the next few rounds of 18:54.366 --> 18:56.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% construction, we'll get the 18:55.533 --> 18:58.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% necessary. Federal funding has 18:56.300 --> 19:01.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% already been allocated by 18:58.833 --> 19:02.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% Congress. the concern from JB 19:01.333 --> 19:04.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% Pritzker is that there's 19:02.366 --> 19:06.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% they're not gonna be able get 19:04.000 --> 19:06.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% it and the future you now and 19:06.066 --> 19:10.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% when it's I was already 19:06.700 --> 19:11.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% approved for project. So their 19:10.366 --> 19:13.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% pass saying right now any kind 19:11.133 --> 19:14.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% of property closing. So the 19:13.433 --> 19:16.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% state doesn't own some of the 19:14.566 --> 19:17.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% property where need to do some 19:16.166 --> 19:18.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% construction so they can't 19:17.366 --> 19:19.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% pass it on to the federal 19:18.066 --> 19:22.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% government to. Continue that 19:19.800 --> 19:23.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% first phase of construction. 19:22.666 --> 19:26.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% All right. From the shores of 19:23.833 --> 19:27.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% Juliet. Now to the marble 19:26.466 --> 19:28.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% floors of City Hall. Mayor 19:27.166 --> 19:28.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% Brandon Johnson this week said 19:28.000 --> 19:31.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:15% that. 19:28.600 --> 19:34.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% >> His biggest regret was 19:31.566 --> 19:36.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% keeping on disloyal holdovers. 19:34.666 --> 19:38.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% He said if you ate with us, 19:36.066 --> 19:39.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% you got to go rabbit punch to 19:38.666 --> 19:40.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:15% that. 19:39.533 --> 19:43.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% >> Well, in the that there are 19:40.300 --> 19:43.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% so many different ways of 19:43.300 --> 19:44.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:47.5% saying trouble the 19:43.966 --> 19:46.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% administration and I guess 19:44.633 --> 19:50.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% having a hard reboot have at 19:46.966 --> 19:52.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% the halfway point is not going 19:50.333 --> 19:53.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% to disabuse anyone of the 19:52.833 --> 19:56.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% notion that they're not 19:53.933 --> 19:58.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% entirely in control of things 19:56.933 --> 19:58.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% at City Hall and which is 19:58.200 --> 20:00.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% which is so bizarre about this 19:58.966 --> 20:01.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% statement now is that normally 20:00.900 --> 20:03.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% new administration, you're 20:01.600 --> 20:05.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% bringing your own people and 20:03.566 --> 20:09.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% it I think there may be a lot 20:05.600 --> 20:10.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% of a lot of analysts, myself 20:09.333 --> 20:12.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% included. thought that maybe 20:10.666 --> 20:13.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% bringing on some people who 20:12.200 --> 20:14.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55% had experience in the 20:13.400 --> 20:16.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% Lightfoot administration or 20:14.100 --> 20:17.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% the Emanuel Administration 20:16.433 --> 20:18.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% even the Daley administration 20:17.700 --> 20:21.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% was a sign that maybe was 20:18.366 --> 20:22.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% conciliatory. Maybe he was 20:21.133 --> 20:22.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% reaching out to the Chicago 20:22.066 --> 20:25.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% ones who didn't vote for him 20:22.800 --> 20:29.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% or didn't vote at all. But 20:25.500 --> 20:31.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% clearly he feels now that 14, 20:29.766 --> 20:32.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% 15% approval that some of 20:31.933 --> 20:33.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% these to be blamed for it. And 20:32.700 --> 20:35.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% it's the people he inherited 20:33.433 --> 20:36.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% when he came in. And 23. 20:35.533 --> 20:37.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% >> And so within days of that, 20:36.866 --> 20:40.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% we have seen some turnover. A 20:37.700 --> 20:41.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% lot of people paying attention 20:40.500 --> 20:44.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% to aviation commissioner, 20:41.666 --> 20:45.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% Jamie Rhee, who is supposedly 20:44.866 --> 20:47.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:32.5% retiring and 20:45.900 --> 20:48.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% >> folks not its yet. It's all 20:47.133 --> 20:49.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% a coincidence. Everyone was 20:48.533 --> 20:50.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% intending on retiring before 20:49.300 --> 20:52.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% this announcement was made 20:50.000 --> 20:55.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:57.5% earlier this week. The 20:52.533 --> 20:57.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% aviation, departure is comes 20:55.066 --> 21:00.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% at a very critical time for 20:57.900 --> 21:01.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% the O'Hare Airport expansion 21:00.133 --> 21:02.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% project. They were able to get 21:01.433 --> 21:04.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% the buy-in from United and 21:02.266 --> 21:05.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% American late last year. So 21:04.566 --> 21:09.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% that was a crucial turning 21:05.800 --> 21:13.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% point. But you're not there 21:09.366 --> 21:14.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% yet. And this is also a very 21:13.300 --> 21:17.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% curious departure, a given 21:14.566 --> 21:18.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% that that United Airlines 21:17.266 --> 21:19.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% Denver story got some traction 21:18.033 --> 21:21.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% earlier this week. United 21:19.333 --> 21:21.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% Airlines Building a pilot 21:21.233 --> 21:23.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% training facility in Denver, 21:21.966 --> 21:24.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% Denver, one of their major 21:23.933 --> 21:28.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% hubs and the plans for this 21:24.833 --> 21:29.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% pilot training facility could 21:28.400 --> 21:30.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% potentially be built out for 21:29.100 --> 21:32.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:50% office buildings to 21:30.600 --> 21:33.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% accommodate 5,000 people. The 21:32.333 --> 21:36.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55% same 5,000 people who 21:33.133 --> 21:38.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% currently work at the Willis 21:36.766 --> 21:41.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% Tower. there is it's it's a 21:38.800 --> 21:43.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% pretty precarious moment for 21:41.733 --> 21:44.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% aviation in the city that the 21:43.900 --> 21:45.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% commissioner go away be a huge 21:44.700 --> 21:47.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% loss for Chicago, of course, 21:45.433 --> 21:48.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% to lose. United know. Speaking 21:47.933 --> 21:49.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:7.5% of 21:48.666 --> 21:51.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% >> Matt changeover, CPS, Chief 21:49.533 --> 21:53.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% Pedro Martinez fought so hard 21:51.533 --> 21:57.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% to keep his job. But now we 21:53.466 --> 21:59.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% hear that he is in the running 21:57.300 --> 22:00.466 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% for another lead and position 21:59.566 --> 22:02.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% as the superintendent's, 22:00.466 --> 22:02.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% another holdover from the wife 22:02.200 --> 22:04.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% administration, who's now been 22:02.933 --> 22:06.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% forced out. He his time in 22:04.533 --> 22:07.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% Chicago is coming to an end. I 22:06.066 --> 22:08.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% think whatever fighting he 22:07.666 --> 22:09.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% wanted to do and his lawsuits 22:08.433 --> 22:12.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% going to keep going on against 22:09.333 --> 22:13.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% the city and school district 22:12.433 --> 22:15.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% in the he knows he's moving 22:13.166 --> 22:16.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% on. So this is another job in 22:15.333 --> 22:19.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% Nevada that he's looking at. 22:16.500 --> 22:20.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% He has experience out there in 22:19.300 --> 22:21.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% the past. He's fight so hard 22:20.300 --> 22:24.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% to keep his job if he was 22:21.533 --> 22:25.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% going to he had lost it And I 22:24.566 --> 22:27.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% think it only makes sense to 22:25.366 --> 22:28.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% have another thing. And he's 22:27.400 --> 22:30.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% has 6 months now of where he's 22:28.766 --> 22:32.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% going to be paid east on the 22:30.333 --> 22:33.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% to look elsewhere, to make 22:32.666 --> 22:34.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% sense to do that. If he wants 22:33.666 --> 22:35.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% to leave early, he could do 22:34.400 --> 22:36.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% that as well. Of course, 22:35.433 --> 22:39.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% there's some major, major work 22:36.600 --> 22:39.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% left to be done in Chicago 22:39.233 --> 22:40.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% with CPS and the teachers 22:39.900 --> 22:41.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% union contract that needs to 22:40.866 --> 22:42.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:35% be finalized. 22:41.766 --> 22:45.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% >> If that's done before he 22:42.500 --> 22:48.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% leaves, that remains to be 22:45.366 --> 22:49.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% seen. But it's a natural 22:48.433 --> 22:49.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% jumping spot for a place 22:49.066 --> 22:51.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% history. And we said his kids 22:49.833 --> 22:53.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% were born in Nevada out there. 22:51.600 --> 22:54.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% So it's another spot where 22:53.400 --> 22:55.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% he's going to go and have a 22:54.666 --> 22:58.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% similar job, slightly smaller 22:55.433 --> 22:58.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% district. But it may make 22:58.233 --> 22:59.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:17.5% sense. 22:58.566 --> 23:01.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% >> Something else that is 22:59.266 --> 23:02.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% spelled trouble for the 23:01.000 --> 23:02.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% Johnson administration is 23:02.300 --> 23:05.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% questions over letting the 23:02.966 --> 23:06.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% inspector general into this 23:05.966 --> 23:09.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% apparent gift closet where 23:06.900 --> 23:10.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% folks that want to give 23:09.133 --> 23:12.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% something to the Mayor Johnson 23:10.766 --> 23:15.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% or prior administrations as 23:12.533 --> 23:19.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% well could do so. We got a 23:15.766 --> 23:20.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% glimpse into that closet this 23:19.733 --> 23:23.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% week. Me I asked Dave, what is 23:20.500 --> 23:27.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% the point of showing a video 23:23.733 --> 23:28.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:35% letting folks 23:27.366 --> 23:31.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% >> Well, I guess to show some 23:28.166 --> 23:32.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% level of transparency, but 23:31.266 --> 23:33.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% that certainly, you know, does 23:32.200 --> 23:35.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% it do it for you? It does not 23:33.333 --> 23:36.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% clicked for me, but but, you 23:35.333 --> 23:37.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% know, looks like they need 23:36.800 --> 23:40.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% good graphs ale when I when I 23:37.566 --> 23:41.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:50% see pictures there. 23:40.200 --> 23:43.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% >> It does not. Rob. This 23:41.300 --> 23:44.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% inspector general. And there's 23:43.000 --> 23:45.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% also a new cataloging that the 23:44.366 --> 23:47.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% got. The mayor has said that 23:45.300 --> 23:48.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% he is going to We also the 23:47.133 --> 23:48.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% inspector general pushing back 23:48.133 --> 23:51.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% on both Johnson and his 23:48.966 --> 23:52.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% predecessor, the late for the 23:51.733 --> 23:53.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% ministrations working with 23:52.966 --> 23:55.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% them, but apparently trying to 23:53.866 --> 23:57.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% obstruct investigations. Yeah, 23:55.166 --> 23:58.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% I think the inspector general 23:57.033 --> 23:59.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% believe that the mayor's 23:58.833 --> 24:00.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% office was trying to put its 23:59.566 --> 24:02.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% thumb on the scale and certain 24:00.300 --> 24:04.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% investigations by having. 24:02.733 --> 24:07.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% >> A representative of the 24:04.800 --> 24:09.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% city's law department sit in 24:07.733 --> 24:10.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% on certain investigative 24:09.633 --> 24:12.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% interviews and that this 24:10.300 --> 24:14.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% person from the law department 24:12.733 --> 24:17.633 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% was not representing the 24:14.633 --> 24:18.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% interviewee, but just kind 24:17.633 --> 24:20.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% there representing the city. 24:18.933 --> 24:21.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% So they weren't. So there was 24:20.166 --> 24:22.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% a that the it is obvious that 24:21.566 --> 24:25.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% there was a chilling effect by 24:22.333 --> 24:26.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% having the city lawyer there 24:25.266 --> 24:27.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% and that would influence the 24:26.300 --> 24:29.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% interviewee on what they were 24:27.066 --> 24:31.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% trying to say. And as to what 24:29.333 --> 24:35.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% some of those they weren't 24:31.666 --> 24:36.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% hinted that specifically. But 24:35.533 --> 24:36.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% you could you could take a 24:36.200 --> 24:38.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% look at the language and I 24:36.900 --> 24:38.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% guess one of them pointed 24:38.233 --> 24:42.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% directly to the valleys 24:38.866 --> 24:42.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% contract for the casino. 24:42.133 --> 24:43.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% >> Evidently, these were 24:42.766 --> 24:47.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% investigations that the mayor 24:43.500 --> 24:49.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% might find We're going to 24:47.200 --> 24:50.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% leave it there. This was 24:49.066 --> 24:53.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% anything. But and they're we 24:50.233 --> 24:53.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% are, however, out of time. Our 24:53.300 --> 24:55.300 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% thanks to Dave McKinney, 24:53.966 --> 24:56.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% Adriana Perez, Rob Heart and 24:55.300 --> 24:56.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% Matt Masterson. We will be 24:56.166 --> 25:02.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% back to wrap things up right 24:56.933 --> 25:02.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:30% after this. 25:02.133 --> 25:05.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% >> Chicago tonight is made 25:02.833 --> 25:05.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:62.5% possible in part why the 25:05.166 --> 25:09.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% Alexander and John Nichols 25:05.833 --> 25:11.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% family. The Pope Brothers 25:09.333 --> 25:18.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% Foundation, additional support 25:11.166 --> 25:19.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:40% is provided by. 25:18.900 --> 25:21.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% >> And that is our show for 25:19.866 --> 25:23.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% this Friday night. Join us 25:21.100 --> 25:24.900 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% Monday night at 5, 30 10 for 25:23.133 --> 25:26.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% the launch of firsthand 25:24.900 --> 25:27.333 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% peacekeepers. We talk with 25:26.800 --> 25:28.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:50% local residents and 25:27.333 --> 25:30.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% stakeholders working to create 25:28.100 --> 25:31.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:47.5% peace in Chicago's 25:30.733 --> 25:31.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:37.5% neighborhoods. 25:31.200 --> 25:33.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% >> Now for the weekend in 25:31.866 --> 25:34.266 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% Divinity. Thanks for watching. 25:33.566 --> 25:37.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% Stay healthy and safe happy 25:34.266 --> 25:38.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% Valentine's Day. Alright, 25:37.833 --> 25:42.366 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% Adriana over to you. Because 25:38.566 --> 25:43.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% we are all talking about the 25:42.366 --> 25:44.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% price of eggs. But of course, 25:43.100 --> 25:45.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% there's something behind that 25:44.433 --> 25:47.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% next. The avian flu and fears 25:45.500 --> 25:49.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% that it could transfer to 25:47.200 --> 25:50.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% humans. What it concerns you 25:49.433 --> 25:51.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% have in Chicago, particularly 25:50.533 --> 25:52.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% now with a secretary of health 25:51.933 --> 25:55.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% and Human Services doesn't 25:52.800 --> 25:56.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% believe in vaccine mandates. 25:55.700 --> 25:57.200 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:55% >> That's a very good 25:56.400 --> 26:01.666 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% question. I think that's still 25:57.200 --> 26:02.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:60% to be seen. There's now 26:01.666 --> 26:05.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% >> documented cases I think 26:02.500 --> 26:07.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% the bird going from person to 26:05.500 --> 26:08.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% person. But so is a concern to 26:07.566 --> 26:13.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% with hats, you know, and when 26:08.600 --> 26:14.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% a lot birds and Red Crescent 26:13.233 --> 26:16.133 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% and answers kind washed ashore 26:14.000 --> 26:18.400 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% on like that and the other day 26:16.133 --> 26:19.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% weeks ago, lot of pets nearby. 26:18.400 --> 26:20.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:67.5% You know, we have a lot of 26:19.100 --> 26:21.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% people walk their dogs, which 26:20.233 --> 26:21.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% is, you know, making sure that 26:21.000 --> 26:23.700 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% they're not getting close to 26:21.766 --> 26:24.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% the dead birds and that, you 26:23.700 --> 26:25.866 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% know, you're clean their feet. 26:24.433 --> 26:29.566 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% When you go back home and they 26:25.866 --> 26:30.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% also don't pick them up. You 26:29.566 --> 26:31.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:75% reported on the list virtual. 26:30.800 --> 26:34.766 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% Yeah, there, you currents of 26:31.533 --> 26:35.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:40% matter is that. 26:34.766 --> 26:37.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% >> Closed captioning is made 26:35.966 --> 26:39.233 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% possible by Robert, a cliff 26:37.800 --> 26:41.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:65% and Clifford law offices, 26:39.233 --> 26:43.033 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% Chicago, personal injury and 26:41.100 --> 26:43.833 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:72.5% wrongful death that supports