WEBVTT 00:00.900 --> 00:03.766 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:42.5% (furnace hissing) 00:10.533 --> 00:14.233 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% (furnace hissing continues) 00:16.866 --> 00:19.466 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% (upbeat music) 00:26.933 --> 00:30.400 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 01:24.966 --> 01:28.400 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 01:31.266 --> 01:35.533 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% (audience cheering and applauding) 01:38.400 --> 01:42.100 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% - Dale has always been of the school of four pairs of hands 01:42.166 --> 01:44.333 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% are better than just two pairs of hands. 01:44.400 --> 01:45.933 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% And when you put more heads together, 01:46.000 --> 01:47.900 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% more ideas are gonna come out. 01:47.966 --> 01:50.800 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% And what comes of that is generally quite amazing. 01:50.866 --> 01:54.233 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% I mean, I've never in my life encountered anyone like Dale 01:54.300 --> 01:57.233 align:start position:20% line:10% size:57.5% who has this ability to bring people together 01:57.300 --> 01:59.533 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% and bring the best out in them. 02:11.833 --> 02:13.166 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% - Probably the most important reason 02:13.233 --> 02:16.700 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% that I wanted to do the blow at the Museum of Glass 02:16.766 --> 02:19.633 align:start position:15% line:10% size:70% was really to have a reunion 02:19.700 --> 02:22.200 align:start position:22.5% line:10% size:50% of all these gaffers that have worked for me. 02:22.266 --> 02:24.400 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% And a lot of 'em have worked together 02:24.466 --> 02:28.400 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% and everybody I called was happy to do it. 02:28.466 --> 02:31.166 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:52.5% And I think all of us had a really good time. 02:33.033 --> 02:35.866 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:55% - Okay, guys. We start to make it one Venetia. 02:35.933 --> 02:38.133 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% Everybody remember something? 02:38.200 --> 02:39.533 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% - [William] I got a lot of memory to bring back 02:39.600 --> 02:40.500 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:37.5% after 20 years. 02:43.833 --> 02:45.600 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% - Dale was a remarkable glass blower. 02:45.666 --> 02:49.166 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:65% You know, many people only associate Dale's glass making 02:49.233 --> 02:50.800 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% with other good gaffers. 02:50.866 --> 02:55.633 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% But had he chosen to pursue a career as a master craftsman, 02:56.766 --> 02:58.000 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% Dale could have been one of the best 02:58.066 --> 02:59.566 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% American glassblowers ever. 02:59.633 --> 03:03.200 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:62.5% I mean, he had an uncanny ability to work the glass hot. 03:03.266 --> 03:04.733 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% If he wanted to work it symmetrically, 03:04.800 --> 03:06.066 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% he could work it symmetrically. 03:06.133 --> 03:07.633 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% It's just that his calling was not 03:07.700 --> 03:09.933 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% to really be a master craftsman. 03:10.000 --> 03:12.566 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% His calling was to be a artist. 03:32.766 --> 03:35.400 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% (upbeat music) 03:39.900 --> 03:43.333 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 03:49.233 --> 03:51.900 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 03:51.966 --> 03:54.633 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% (upbeat music) 03:56.166 --> 03:58.933 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:42.5% (furnace hissing) 04:11.800 --> 04:15.233 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 04:39.700 --> 04:41.200 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% - [Dale] When I started the Blanket Cylinders 04:41.266 --> 04:44.266 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:67.5% or sometimes referred to as the Navajo Blanket Cylinders, 04:44.333 --> 04:46.933 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% they were inspired by an exhibition that I saw 04:47.000 --> 04:49.000 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% at the Museum of Fine Arts in Boston. 04:49.066 --> 04:53.066 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:45% I had also started collecting Pendleton blankets 04:53.133 --> 04:55.200 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% some years before that. 04:55.266 --> 04:57.833 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:40% It was really an excuse to have a motif 04:57.900 --> 04:59.800 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% to work from, the blanket 04:59.866 --> 05:03.066 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% and the blanket lended itself towards making drawings 05:03.133 --> 05:05.733 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% because they were straight lines like the warp 05:05.800 --> 05:07.233 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% and the weft of a Blanket. 05:23.300 --> 05:24.533 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% - [Dale] And so I started working 05:24.600 --> 05:26.900 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% with Kate Elliot on developing drawings 05:26.966 --> 05:30.066 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% that could be picked up on the steel plate 05:30.133 --> 05:31.933 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% and then blown into a cylinder shape. 05:32.000 --> 05:33.466 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% I made them a cylinder shape 05:33.533 --> 05:36.133 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% because it was sort of a neutral format 05:36.200 --> 05:38.566 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% so you could really look at the drawings. 05:52.466 --> 05:53.866 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% - [Dale] I worked on the cylinder series 05:53.933 --> 05:55.800 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% for about two years, first with Kate 05:55.866 --> 05:58.433 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% and then with Flora Mace doing the drawings. 05:58.500 --> 06:00.166 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% And the drawings became more and more 06:00.233 --> 06:01.800 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% sophisticated technically. 06:03.000 --> 06:04.033 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:20% Give me- - Start with a straight in. 06:04.100 --> 06:07.600 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% - Give me that much more. - Okay. 06:07.666 --> 06:12.033 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:70% - [Dale] Joey Kirkpatrick, I think came to Pilchuck in 1979 06:13.500 --> 06:16.266 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:55% and we started working together shortly after that. 06:17.600 --> 06:20.633 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% As a team we worked for a long time together. 06:20.700 --> 06:23.866 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% Anything that needs a drawing on it, I always get a hold 06:23.933 --> 06:26.700 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% of Flora and Joey to work with me. 06:26.766 --> 06:29.333 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% They're fantastic to work with. 06:29.400 --> 06:32.033 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% (upbeat music) 06:40.266 --> 06:42.666 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% I like to go as far as I can with the series 06:42.733 --> 06:45.066 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:42.5% to feel like I've finished it more or less 06:45.133 --> 06:47.666 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% and then go on to something else. 06:47.733 --> 06:51.333 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:65% What happens is after I've worked on a series and leave it, 06:51.400 --> 06:54.333 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:55% then I'll come back to it five or 10 years later 06:54.400 --> 06:55.600 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% and work on it some more. 06:55.666 --> 06:58.333 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:45% In the case of the Cylinders, I went back 06:58.400 --> 07:00.666 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% and worked on it two or three different times. 07:01.866 --> 07:04.466 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% (upbeat music) 07:08.933 --> 07:10.833 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% - So if you want on this one, 07:10.900 --> 07:13.633 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% you might wanna pick up here and then roll 07:13.700 --> 07:16.466 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:45% because that's our shard off center there. 07:16.533 --> 07:17.400 align:start position:37.5% line:84.67% size:25% - Alright. 07:19.333 --> 07:20.766 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:42.5% That's a big one. 07:22.100 --> 07:24.133 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% - [Joey] And a shard and some circles. 07:24.200 --> 07:25.366 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% A little bit of everything. 07:25.433 --> 07:26.400 align:start position:35% line:84.67% size:27.5% - Hot damn. 07:27.766 --> 07:30.666 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% I'm about to bleach. - Okay, okay. 07:30.733 --> 07:35.333 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% (people chatting indistinctly) 07:35.400 --> 07:37.400 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:55% - I think I'll go this way first this time, Joey, 07:37.466 --> 07:39.066 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% and then I'll come back your way. 07:39.133 --> 07:41.233 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:35% I'll come back your way. Alright. 07:41.300 --> 07:43.000 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% You got it. You ready? 07:43.066 --> 07:43.966 align:start position:42.5% line:84.67% size:15% - Yep. 07:44.033 --> 07:45.166 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:32.5% A lot of way. 07:49.633 --> 07:51.600 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% Nice. Watch out, there. 07:56.166 --> 07:58.033 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:45% Yeah, that's good. 07:58.100 --> 08:01.000 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:27.5% 20 seconds. - That's good. You got it. 08:01.066 --> 08:02.933 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% That line right there. 08:04.000 --> 08:07.733 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% (audience applauding and cheering) 08:59.533 --> 09:02.500 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% (blowtorch hissing) 09:05.700 --> 09:09.566 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:55% - All right give me. A little punishment here. 09:10.533 --> 09:12.366 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% I'll put it up on the rail. 09:12.433 --> 09:15.066 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% (upbeat music) 09:16.866 --> 09:19.166 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% (blowtorch hissing) 09:19.233 --> 09:20.600 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 09:30.366 --> 09:32.700 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% - He's got it. He's got it. 09:32.766 --> 09:34.566 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% - Don't rent this paper too much when I'm doing this, 09:34.633 --> 09:36.366 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:30% I don't want fracture this bottom. 09:37.866 --> 09:41.266 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% - This interior color's quite nice with white flecks in it. 09:42.833 --> 09:46.866 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 09:46.933 --> 09:48.133 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% - There we go. 09:50.000 --> 09:50.866 align:start position:37.5% line:84.67% size:22.5% Hold her. 09:54.966 --> 09:55.833 align:start position:40% line:84.67% size:17.5% - Tony. 09:58.500 --> 10:02.833 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% (audience applauding and cheering) 10:08.800 --> 10:13.833 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% (people chattering in the background) 10:14.833 --> 10:16.466 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% - [Dale] I think it was about 1977 10:16.533 --> 10:19.200 align:start position:25% line:74% size:47.5% that I was visiting the Washington State Historical Society 10:19.266 --> 10:21.500 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:50% and looking at their Indian basket collection. 10:21.566 --> 10:23.800 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% It dawns on me that, hey, wouldn't it be interesting 10:23.866 --> 10:26.566 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% to try to make these baskets outta glass? 10:26.633 --> 10:29.400 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% A lot of the baskets are old and kind of crumply 10:29.466 --> 10:31.000 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% and they're not always straight and firm. 10:31.066 --> 10:33.500 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% And so I got into my mind that somehow I wanted 10:33.566 --> 10:36.000 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% to make them asymmetrical. 10:36.066 --> 10:38.233 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% And so first I would bang 'em with a paddle 10:38.300 --> 10:39.533 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% to beat 'em up a little bit. 10:39.600 --> 10:42.566 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% But I soon learned that if I just used the heat 10:42.633 --> 10:45.866 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:70% of the furnace and the fire, that I could get the same kind 10:45.933 --> 10:50.166 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% of movement from the fire itself and it was more beautiful. 10:50.233 --> 10:53.100 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% So all summer long I made these, 10:53.166 --> 10:55.166 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% I made 'em all outta the same color, 10:55.233 --> 10:57.633 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% kind of a tobacco color. 10:57.700 --> 11:02.000 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% The name of the color actually in German was Tabak 222. 11:02.066 --> 11:04.133 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:35% 'Cause all the colors have a number. 11:04.200 --> 11:07.400 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:47.5% That was really the breakthrough series for me. 11:07.466 --> 11:10.900 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% Probably the most innovational thing I'd ever done in glass 11:10.966 --> 11:15.766 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% was to begin to form glass with fire, 11:16.800 --> 11:19.066 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% with gravity, with heat, 11:19.133 --> 11:20.833 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% with centrifugal force. 11:20.900 --> 11:24.566 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% I was using just human breath 11:24.633 --> 11:27.366 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% going down into this miraculous material, 11:27.433 --> 11:30.833 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% blowing it up to making it as thin as I could 11:30.900 --> 11:32.233 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% and getting it so hot 11:32.300 --> 11:34.833 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:50% that it would almost collapse and begin to move. 11:36.000 --> 11:38.733 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% And so I was pushing the edge of thinness 11:38.800 --> 11:42.866 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:45% and collapsibility and making new forms. 11:42.933 --> 11:45.533 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% (bright music) 11:45.600 --> 11:46.333 align:start position:40% line:84.67% size:17.5% - Stop. 11:52.633 --> 11:55.966 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (bright music continues) 11:59.700 --> 12:00.666 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:45% How you doing man? 12:00.733 --> 12:01.900 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% Oh, good to see you. 12:04.400 --> 12:05.366 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% - So glad you came down here. 12:05.433 --> 12:07.400 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% - I'm so glad I could. 12:07.466 --> 12:09.766 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% This has been a long time trying to remember this. 12:09.833 --> 12:10.933 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:45% Robbie, this time. 12:12.200 --> 12:14.866 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% (upbeat music) 12:17.966 --> 12:19.233 align:start position:42.5% line:84.67% size:12.5% Dale. 12:19.300 --> 12:20.800 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% So this is the first one, right? 12:20.866 --> 12:23.700 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% And I'm just kind of trying to remember what we were doing. 12:23.766 --> 12:26.400 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% - You could do ones like this 12:26.466 --> 12:31.000 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:60% and then a make a bottom piece to have this go into. 12:31.066 --> 12:32.766 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:17.5% - Okay. - It'd be like pairs. 12:32.833 --> 12:35.833 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% - Alright, so this would just be the wrinkler around one? 12:35.900 --> 12:40.933 align:start position:40% line:79.33% size:17.5% - Yeah. - Okay. 12:42.800 --> 12:44.533 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% Ah it touched. Did it touch? 12:44.600 --> 12:46.066 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% - Yeah. It touched. 12:46.133 --> 12:48.233 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:45% It looks like nice tobacco, that color. 12:48.300 --> 12:50.166 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% - Tobacco looks good. 12:50.233 --> 12:52.533 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:35% So anyways, we gotta touch on that. 12:52.600 --> 12:53.566 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:35% But everything looks good. Color? 12:53.633 --> 12:55.133 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% - Yeah, the wrinkles look good. 12:55.200 --> 12:56.466 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:42.5% - [William] Okay. 12:56.533 --> 12:59.100 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% - The body wrap you did looked real nice. 12:59.166 --> 13:01.366 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% - Do some more of those real thin ones maybe next time. 13:01.433 --> 13:02.433 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% - [Dale] Yeah. 13:02.500 --> 13:03.966 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% - Where are we putting this? 13:04.033 --> 13:06.433 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% Joey, that color was perfect. 13:06.500 --> 13:09.733 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:70% So if you're gonna do bigger ones, Jim, do the bigger ones. 13:09.800 --> 13:11.333 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% And I'll put the littler ones into. 13:11.400 --> 13:12.666 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% - So I'll do like a low shape. 13:12.733 --> 13:13.966 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% - Yeah, if you do like a lower shape. 13:14.033 --> 13:16.033 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% That's what he said. So that's what we'll do. 13:16.100 --> 13:19.100 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:55% The last time I made a basket was 25 years ago. 13:19.166 --> 13:21.400 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% The last time you and I worked together was 20 years ago. 13:21.466 --> 13:24.466 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% - We started working together as soon as I met him. 13:24.533 --> 13:25.500 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% The next day or so. 13:25.566 --> 13:26.433 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% - It was the next day. - Yeah. 13:26.500 --> 13:27.966 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% - Actually it was the same day. 13:28.033 --> 13:30.033 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% 'Cause I think I picked you up after midnight. (laughs) 13:30.100 --> 13:31.333 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% Yeah, see that's it. 13:31.400 --> 13:33.100 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% That's what I was trying to do in five reheats. 13:33.166 --> 13:34.900 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:60% Dave, I'm gonna have you go with a little bit larger 13:34.966 --> 13:36.500 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% diameter punty for me. - Okay. 13:36.566 --> 13:38.800 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% - 'Cause I can't hold onto that little one. 13:38.866 --> 13:42.433 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% - [Dale] I first met Billy Morris in 1978, 13:42.500 --> 13:45.800 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% late at night at the Seattle Tacoma Airport 13:45.866 --> 13:49.200 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% because he was the driver that summer for Pilchuck. 13:49.266 --> 13:50.766 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% And one of their jobs is to pick up 13:50.833 --> 13:53.200 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% the faculty from the airport. 13:53.266 --> 13:56.466 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% And just when we got there, Billy said, 13:56.533 --> 13:58.166 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% "I know you work with a team." 13:58.233 --> 14:00.033 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:37.5% He said, "Would there be any chance 14:00.100 --> 14:02.766 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:60% that I could ever play a part in working with a team?" 14:02.833 --> 14:05.166 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% - When we got up to the school, 14:05.233 --> 14:06.800 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:32.5% I remember he walked onto the pad 14:06.866 --> 14:08.533 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:52.5% and it was one of the midnight blowing sessions 14:08.600 --> 14:11.966 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% and he picked up a blow pipe and he gathered some glass 14:12.033 --> 14:15.000 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% and he blew a small piece without using any tools. 14:16.133 --> 14:17.633 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% And you know, it wasn't the greatest piece 14:17.700 --> 14:19.100 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% of glass I've ever seen blown, 14:19.166 --> 14:21.766 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% but the approach to it was so fresh 14:21.833 --> 14:23.600 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% and I realized, so brilliant, 14:23.666 --> 14:25.733 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:75% that I was just, I was amazed. 14:27.033 --> 14:29.133 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% This guy was authentic. 14:29.200 --> 14:31.666 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:52.5% So, you know, at that point of course I said, 14:31.733 --> 14:34.166 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% "Hey, is there anything I can do to help you?" 14:34.233 --> 14:35.466 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% - [Dale] I remember I told him, I said, 14:35.533 --> 14:38.366 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:55% "Look I'll be starting at four in the morning. 14:38.433 --> 14:40.133 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:45% if you're there at four in the morning, 14:40.200 --> 14:41.600 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% I'll put you to work." 14:41.666 --> 14:42.566 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% - [William] He says, "Well, yeah, show up 14:42.633 --> 14:44.366 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% on the pat in about four hours." 14:44.433 --> 14:45.700 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% And we started working together 14:45.766 --> 14:47.533 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% and I worked together with him for 10 years. 14:48.700 --> 14:52.500 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% (people chattering indistinctly) 14:52.566 --> 14:56.700 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:60% - [Dale] And he was, you know, unbelievably talented. 14:56.766 --> 14:58.566 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% He was one of the best I'd ever seen. 14:58.633 --> 15:01.633 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% And I had already lost the sight of my eye, 15:01.700 --> 15:03.900 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% which made it difficult for me to work. 15:03.966 --> 15:06.233 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% And then somewhere in there, early eighties, 15:06.300 --> 15:09.433 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% I think I dislocated my right shoulder 15:09.500 --> 15:11.833 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:40% and that made it impossible to blow glass. 15:11.900 --> 15:13.833 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% So I had Billy be the gaffer 15:13.900 --> 15:16.066 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% as we called the head of the team. 15:16.133 --> 15:17.866 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:52.5% - Kind of think about the size we were going. 15:17.933 --> 15:19.266 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% - You want me to make this? - Yeah, you're making this. 15:19.333 --> 15:20.200 align:start position:40% line:79.33% size:17.5% - Okay. - Okay. 15:20.266 --> 15:21.633 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% - [Dale] He did such a great job 15:21.700 --> 15:25.333 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% and I really liked actually not being the gaffer. 15:25.400 --> 15:29.333 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% And so till this day I rarely blow glass. 15:33.733 --> 15:35.700 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% - [William] There. Look at that! 15:35.766 --> 15:36.533 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% - Yeah. See how stretched out- 15:36.600 --> 15:37.433 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% - That one is nice. 15:37.500 --> 15:39.200 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% Yeah. That's the way. 15:39.266 --> 15:41.466 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% You got good tobacco color too. 15:41.533 --> 15:43.900 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:55% - [Dale] I got used to watching what was going on 15:43.966 --> 15:45.400 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:42.5% and not doing it. 15:45.466 --> 15:49.000 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% But I'll tell you, Billy is one of the most talented, 15:49.066 --> 15:50.866 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% one of the nicest people 15:50.933 --> 15:53.466 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:55% that I've ever had the pleasure of working with. 15:53.533 --> 15:54.533 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:22.5% - Whoops! (blowtorch hissing) 15:54.600 --> 15:55.666 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:22.5% My fault. - I'm sorry. 15:55.733 --> 15:57.666 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:45% (William laughing) 15:57.733 --> 16:00.300 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% (upbeat music) 16:05.100 --> 16:08.333 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% (audience applauding) 16:10.400 --> 16:13.866 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 16:14.766 --> 16:16.633 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% - [Dale] That felt pretty good. 16:16.700 --> 16:17.533 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% - Yeah, well that was kind of like, 16:17.600 --> 16:18.800 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% those early earliest ones. 16:18.866 --> 16:19.833 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% - I was wondering now why you were open. 16:19.900 --> 16:21.000 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% I think that was about right.- 16:21.066 --> 16:22.333 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:32.5% - Yeah. Yeah. 16:22.400 --> 16:23.933 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% They were still just, just in a little bit. 16:33.400 --> 16:36.333 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:45% (crowd chattering) 16:39.033 --> 16:43.233 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% - [Dale] Now glass is defined as a super cooled liquid 16:43.300 --> 16:46.500 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% and it's transparent like water. 16:46.566 --> 16:49.500 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% And so the idea that the objects 16:49.566 --> 16:52.766 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% end up looking like they came from the sea is no accident. 16:52.833 --> 16:55.466 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% It is almost like water itself. 16:55.533 --> 16:57.400 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:35% So when you're making and blowing 16:57.466 --> 16:59.400 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% and forming the glass, 16:59.466 --> 17:02.733 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:50% if you wanna push it towards an organic form 17:02.800 --> 17:05.233 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% that is as if it came from the sea, 17:05.300 --> 17:07.333 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% it happens just naturally. 17:13.700 --> 17:16.366 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% (upbeat music) 17:22.033 --> 17:24.166 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% - So this is a spiral wrap that's going on right now, 17:24.233 --> 17:26.266 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% which ends up being the decoration. 17:26.333 --> 17:29.466 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% And it's just a fine thread that's going onto the glass 17:29.533 --> 17:31.033 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% that's just sitting on the surface. 17:31.100 --> 17:33.766 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% He'll then take it to the glory hole, melt it in, 17:33.833 --> 17:35.066 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% get it good and hot, 17:35.133 --> 17:37.800 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:52.5% and then we'll plunge it into the optic mold. 17:37.866 --> 17:39.000 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% ♪ I thought the beast 17:39.066 --> 17:41.066 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:35% - [Dale] I was making the baskets 17:42.400 --> 17:43.833 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:40% in the seventies 17:43.900 --> 17:46.866 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:62.5% and at one point I wanted to make the baskets thinner 17:46.933 --> 17:48.733 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:32.5% and they were already quite thin. 17:48.800 --> 17:51.600 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% So I stuffed them into what we call an optical mold, 17:51.666 --> 17:54.633 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% which is a ribbed mold that ends up making the glass 17:54.700 --> 17:58.466 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:57.5% sort of like corrugated cardboard in terms of structure. 17:58.533 --> 18:00.633 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:60% Theoretically that would allow you to make it thinner 18:00.700 --> 18:02.266 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% because it's stronger. 18:02.333 --> 18:05.233 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% And when I did that, of course that optical mold 18:05.300 --> 18:10.033 align:start position:22.5% line:74% size:45% or that corrugated ribbed feeling made it look like a shell. 18:10.100 --> 18:14.433 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% So, you know, as soon as I did it, one thought shell. 18:14.500 --> 18:18.166 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% And then, you know, I liked the idea that it was a shell 18:18.233 --> 18:20.133 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% and so changed the name of, 18:20.200 --> 18:23.033 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:65% I didn't really change the name from baskets to Seaforms, 18:23.100 --> 18:26.133 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% it's just that the baskets became the Seaforms 18:26.200 --> 18:27.933 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% and then of course we extended 18:28.000 --> 18:32.166 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:45% and pushed it to a more aquatic feeling. 18:32.233 --> 18:33.900 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% You know, there's no end to that too. 18:33.966 --> 18:35.766 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% I mean, I could literally make Seaforms probably 18:35.833 --> 18:37.266 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% for the rest of my life. 18:37.333 --> 18:40.633 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% And that's a series that I have continued to make 18:40.700 --> 18:43.066 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% because you can always take that in a different way, 18:43.133 --> 18:44.433 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% in a different direction. 18:56.066 --> 19:01.033 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:50% - [Dale] I met Benny Moore in 1974 at Pilchuck. 19:02.233 --> 19:06.433 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% He was particularly good at symmetrical shapes, 19:06.500 --> 19:08.433 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% but he was good at everything really. 19:08.500 --> 19:10.933 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% He's a fantastic glassblower 19:11.000 --> 19:14.333 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% and he really worked with me on the team 19:14.400 --> 19:18.033 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% and started off with Navajo Blanket Cylinders 19:19.100 --> 19:21.366 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% and then baskets and Seaforms. 19:55.200 --> 19:59.033 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 19:59.100 --> 20:02.000 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:42.5% (furnace roaring) 20:03.433 --> 20:06.866 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 20:12.100 --> 20:16.733 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% (people chatting indistinctly) 20:16.800 --> 20:19.200 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% - I got a thin bottom. 20:19.266 --> 20:20.633 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:40% Watch your feet. 20:21.766 --> 20:23.666 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% Take it, Tony. 20:23.733 --> 20:27.200 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 20:29.933 --> 20:35.000 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% (glass shatters) (crowd exclaims) 20:48.800 --> 20:52.966 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% (audience cheering and applauding) 20:54.566 --> 20:58.000 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 21:01.100 --> 21:02.700 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:25% - Alright. - Okay. 21:02.766 --> 21:04.166 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% - Better off there. 21:16.300 --> 21:21.333 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:30% - All right. (audience cheers and applauds) 21:26.866 --> 21:28.233 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:40% Impressive, huh? 21:36.166 --> 21:39.133 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:45% (crowd chattering) 21:40.466 --> 21:41.833 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% - [Dale] You know, I woke up one morning 21:41.900 --> 21:45.266 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% having worked for a year or two on the Seaforms 21:45.333 --> 21:48.600 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% and just decided I wanted to do something different. 21:48.666 --> 21:51.266 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% And I guess I woke up with the idea that I would work 21:51.333 --> 21:54.900 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% with all 300 colors that were available to us. 21:54.966 --> 21:57.600 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% That we bought these color rods from Germany. 21:59.433 --> 22:02.166 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% And so I decided I would use all 300 of them. 22:02.233 --> 22:05.100 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% And so I put one color on the inside, 22:05.166 --> 22:10.033 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:65% then sort of a translucent or opaque white in the middle 22:10.100 --> 22:13.033 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:40% and then another color on the outside. 22:13.100 --> 22:17.933 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:67.5% And because these white was put on as big chunks of white 22:18.000 --> 22:20.500 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% to give it more texture and variety, 22:20.566 --> 22:22.833 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:32.5% they ended up looking like clouds. 22:22.900 --> 22:27.400 align:start position:25% line:74% size:40% There is a never ending potential for color with the Macchia 22:27.466 --> 22:29.866 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% because there's so many different color layers 22:29.933 --> 22:32.500 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% and so many different colors available. 22:32.566 --> 22:36.600 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% We could never exhaust the color possibilities with Macchia. 22:36.666 --> 22:38.666 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% You do a piece about this size. 22:38.733 --> 22:39.866 align:start position:40% line:84.67% size:17.5% - Okay. 22:39.933 --> 22:41.533 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:37.5% - And then I'll have Jimmy do this, 22:41.600 --> 22:43.700 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% we'll do two part Macchia, 22:43.766 --> 22:46.133 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:55% which means we want to keep the color the same. 22:46.200 --> 22:47.833 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% - These guys know that? - No. 22:47.900 --> 22:49.200 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% - Tell 'em. I'll tell 'em. 22:49.266 --> 22:50.633 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% - [Dale] Tell them, yeah. 22:50.700 --> 22:55.066 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% - John, so these are gonna be two part Macchias. 22:55.133 --> 22:57.100 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% I'll do this one. It'll be the smaller one. 22:57.166 --> 22:58.400 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% Jim will do the lower. 22:58.466 --> 23:00.033 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:50% We'll just keep that theme up through these. 23:01.266 --> 23:03.366 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% So we'll color coordinate these in the set. 23:03.433 --> 23:06.066 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% (upbeat music) 23:12.300 --> 23:16.366 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 24:58.700 --> 25:02.700 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% (audience cheering and applauding) 25:02.766 --> 25:06.200 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 25:13.000 --> 25:15.700 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% - [William] Dave. Do that again. 25:17.466 --> 25:20.900 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 27:06.000 --> 27:07.166 align:start position:35% line:84.67% size:30% - Great job. 27:07.233 --> 27:08.333 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:32.5% - That's fine 27:15.566 --> 27:18.100 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:32.5% (funky music) 27:19.566 --> 27:22.600 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% (blowtorch hissing) 27:24.033 --> 27:26.633 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% - [Dale] The Persians, that's one of the most difficult 27:26.700 --> 27:28.433 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% series to describe. 27:28.500 --> 27:32.733 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:65% I mean it started off that they were geometric shapes. 27:32.800 --> 27:34.633 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% It was a search for new forms. 27:35.900 --> 27:38.033 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:60% - Hey, how many have you seen glass blowing before? 27:46.900 --> 27:48.133 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% - [Dale] I got Martin Blank 27:48.200 --> 27:49.700 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% when he first came out to work for me 27:49.766 --> 27:51.900 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% from the Rhode Island School of Design 27:51.966 --> 27:55.500 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:47.5% to start working on some new forms for me. 27:55.566 --> 27:57.933 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:50% I was working with a big team up at Pilchuck 27:58.000 --> 28:00.766 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% on one side of the shop and I got Martin and Robbie Miller 28:00.833 --> 28:02.766 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% to work over in the corner 28:02.833 --> 28:05.266 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% and I'd make little drawings for them. 28:05.333 --> 28:08.200 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% You know, I might make 20 or 30 drawings on a page. 28:08.266 --> 28:11.000 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:65% And then the ones I liked, I'd put an X underneath them 28:11.066 --> 28:12.900 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% and then they would sort of experiment 28:12.966 --> 28:14.700 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% with trying to make that shape. 28:14.766 --> 28:16.533 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% And we worked for a year on doing 28:16.600 --> 28:19.400 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% only experimental Persians. 28:19.466 --> 28:22.500 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:50% You know, we made at least a thousand or more. 28:22.566 --> 28:26.433 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% And so, you know, I got to pick and choose from these parts 28:26.500 --> 28:28.366 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% and develop a new series. 28:38.066 --> 28:39.900 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% - [Dale] And the name came from simply, 28:39.966 --> 28:41.866 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% I just liked the name Persian. 28:41.933 --> 28:46.300 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:55% It conjured up sort of near Eastern Byzantine, 28:46.366 --> 28:49.400 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:42.5% Far East, Venice. 28:49.466 --> 28:52.066 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% All of the trades, smells, scents. 28:52.133 --> 28:56.933 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% It was an exotic name to me, so I just called them Persians. 29:05.966 --> 29:08.466 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:17.5% - Yeah. (audience applauds) 29:08.533 --> 29:10.633 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% Now magically Jim is right behind 29:10.700 --> 29:12.433 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:35% with a wrapped piece ready to go. 29:12.500 --> 29:15.200 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:60% So we keep the beat, the whole movement happening. 29:36.533 --> 29:38.500 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% (audience applauding) 29:38.566 --> 29:39.566 align:start position:37.5% line:84.67% size:20% - Ready? 29:41.666 --> 29:44.033 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:55% - Watch it there. Come down close to the pipe. 29:45.066 --> 29:46.666 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% - Hold it straight out maybe. 29:46.733 --> 29:47.800 align:start position:40% line:84.67% size:17.5% - Okay. 29:49.400 --> 29:50.733 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% - How's that, Dale? 29:50.800 --> 29:52.733 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% - It's alright. It's good. 29:57.966 --> 29:58.833 align:start position:37.5% line:84.67% size:25% - Take it. 30:03.800 --> 30:07.000 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% (audience applauding) 30:22.400 --> 30:26.333 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% (people chatting indistinctly) 30:33.366 --> 30:35.333 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% - That's a little big, huh? Wow. 30:35.400 --> 30:37.400 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% Okay, guy, we started to make one Venetia. 30:37.466 --> 30:38.966 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% Everybody remember something? 30:39.033 --> 30:39.833 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% - A little bit, sure. 30:39.900 --> 30:41.400 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:42.5% - Okay. Red leaf. 30:41.466 --> 30:42.866 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:42.5% - Red leaf. Okay. 30:42.933 --> 30:44.333 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% And what about the stem? 30:44.400 --> 30:47.366 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% - The stem, but maybe we do do everything red. 30:47.433 --> 30:48.566 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:42.5% We do monochrome. 30:49.800 --> 30:50.666 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% - And (indistinct) and everything? 30:50.733 --> 30:51.533 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:32.5% - Everything. 30:51.600 --> 30:52.433 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% Fantastic. I like it. 30:53.633 --> 30:56.166 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% (upbeat music) 31:03.433 --> 31:05.900 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 31:05.966 --> 31:09.200 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% (blowtorches hissing) 31:15.433 --> 31:17.200 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 31:17.266 --> 31:19.800 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% - [Dale] The Venetians started, because Lino came to me 31:19.866 --> 31:22.066 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% and he said, "It'd be great to work with you 31:22.133 --> 31:23.266 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% on a series sometime. 31:23.333 --> 31:25.366 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% You use all these American gaffers." 31:25.433 --> 31:26.900 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% Well, I was a little reluctant 31:26.966 --> 31:29.566 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% because most of the American gaffers that I worked with, 31:29.633 --> 31:32.133 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% I trained myself and working with them 31:32.200 --> 31:33.533 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% and they understood the way I worked. 31:33.600 --> 31:35.766 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% And we worked in an asymmetrical way 31:35.833 --> 31:37.600 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% that's not very traditional. 31:37.666 --> 31:41.966 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% So working with a real European master 31:42.033 --> 31:45.233 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% that worked symmetrically was gonna be a challenge 31:45.300 --> 31:47.366 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:37.5% because my work wasn't symmetrical. 31:47.433 --> 31:51.100 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% But I said yes, and we made a date for the next summer 31:51.166 --> 31:53.700 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% because Lino came every year to Pilchuck. 31:53.766 --> 31:54.933 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% You know, that winter I was trying to figure out, 31:55.000 --> 31:56.366 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% well, what am I gonna do? 31:56.433 --> 31:59.466 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:47.5% And I went to Italy sometime during that winter 31:59.533 --> 32:01.000 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% and I saw a great collection 32:01.066 --> 32:04.100 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:35% of sort of art deco Venetian glass 32:04.166 --> 32:06.800 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% that I'd never seen before in this palazzo. 32:06.866 --> 32:10.866 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% And I was stunned at how unbelievably innovative 32:10.933 --> 32:14.033 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% and beautiful these 1920s, 30s pieces were. 32:14.100 --> 32:17.366 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% So, gee, I thought, you know, when Lino came next summer 32:17.433 --> 32:19.000 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% that I would have him make these for me. 32:19.066 --> 32:22.666 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:55% I would pretend like I was a designer in 1920s 32:22.733 --> 32:26.733 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:55% and make these sort of eccentric art deco pieces 32:26.800 --> 32:31.833 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:60% with reds and blacks and golds and greens and handles. 32:33.066 --> 32:34.633 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% And so Lino came and I drew sketched one out 32:34.700 --> 32:36.700 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:35% and we started working and made one. 32:36.766 --> 32:38.800 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% And by the time the day was over with, 32:38.866 --> 32:42.566 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:50% I'd already begin to slide into something new. 32:42.633 --> 32:45.400 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% My mind couldn't stay in the 1920s, I guess. 32:45.466 --> 32:49.533 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% And I started making more eccentric things. 32:49.600 --> 32:51.366 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:35% But I think we worked for two weeks 32:51.433 --> 32:53.533 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% and by the time the two weeks was finished, 32:53.600 --> 32:55.733 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% the series had taken on a life of its own, 32:57.000 --> 33:00.466 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% you know, calling on forms and techniques 33:00.533 --> 33:04.766 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% and aspects of glass from throughout history. 33:05.766 --> 33:08.366 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% (upbeat music) 33:11.600 --> 33:12.766 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% It's a never ending thing. 33:12.833 --> 33:14.700 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:37.5% I mean, I could make them forever. 33:14.766 --> 33:16.666 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% I mean, all I have to do is make a drawing, 33:16.733 --> 33:19.200 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% put it up on the wall up next to the furnace 33:19.266 --> 33:21.100 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% and Lino interprets it 33:21.166 --> 33:23.766 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% and he always interprets it in his own way. 33:23.833 --> 33:25.833 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:47.5% So there's a lot of creativity from Lino 33:25.900 --> 33:27.333 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:32.5% and the other people on the team. 33:27.400 --> 33:29.400 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% If you want to make a tall one. 33:29.466 --> 33:30.566 align:start position:40% line:84.67% size:17.5% - Okay. 33:30.633 --> 33:32.266 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% - [Dale] With one or two coils. 33:32.333 --> 33:33.533 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:32.5% - Okay, sure. 33:33.600 --> 33:35.366 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% - But it doesn't have to be that shape. 33:35.433 --> 33:36.366 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:17.5% - Okay. - Whatever shape. 33:36.433 --> 33:37.766 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:17.5% - Okay. - Lagona, whatever. 33:37.833 --> 33:39.300 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% - We'll do it. Okay. 33:39.366 --> 33:41.566 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% - [Dale] I mean, I do drawings for Macchia and Seaforms, 33:41.633 --> 33:45.200 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% but they're usually more of an abstraction or a color. 33:46.233 --> 33:48.133 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% The Venetians, the drawings really 33:48.200 --> 33:50.400 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% often look like the pieces. 33:52.466 --> 33:53.833 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% (upbeat music) 34:01.000 --> 34:03.133 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% - [Lino] We start to make two leaf. 34:03.200 --> 34:05.600 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% (both speak indistinctly) 34:10.833 --> 34:12.066 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% - [Lino] We need to be organized, 34:12.133 --> 34:14.833 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% need to be better at everything. 34:17.633 --> 34:19.733 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% Okay, great. I like that. 34:35.333 --> 34:38.366 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% (blowtorch hissing) 34:40.066 --> 34:42.266 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% - Big torch. Not my fault. 34:48.033 --> 34:50.600 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% Put that in the back, Kelly. 34:50.666 --> 34:51.866 align:start position:35% line:84.67% size:27.5% Stay there. 34:51.933 --> 34:55.366 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 34:56.366 --> 34:57.500 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:32.5% Slowly to me. 35:00.233 --> 35:02.366 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% (Lino speaks indistinctly) 35:02.433 --> 35:05.633 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% (blowtorches hissing) 35:21.100 --> 35:24.500 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:45% (objects clinking) 35:24.566 --> 35:25.800 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% (audience applauding) 35:25.866 --> 35:26.833 align:start position:35% line:84.67% size:27.5% - Good job. 35:28.800 --> 35:30.733 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:30% - Thank you. - Thanks, Lino. 35:30.800 --> 35:32.300 align:start position:35% line:84.67% size:30% - Thank you. 35:32.366 --> 35:34.333 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% - Very nice, huh. Beautiful. 35:34.400 --> 35:37.633 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% (audience applauding) 35:41.200 --> 35:44.233 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% (blowtorch hissing) 35:46.800 --> 35:48.500 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% - Jaco, Jaco, Mario. 35:49.933 --> 35:53.200 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% - [Dale] You know, the Putti are these little characters. 35:53.266 --> 35:54.700 align:start position:35% line:84.67% size:30% They're male 35:54.766 --> 35:56.800 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:52.5% and they were used in Renaissance in Baroque times 35:56.866 --> 35:59.800 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% and they were put up in the church or in the paintings 35:59.866 --> 36:02.066 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:50% and around, and they were carved out of wood 36:02.133 --> 36:03.666 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% or made outta plaster. 36:03.733 --> 36:07.300 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% And they were meant to sort of make people feel good 36:07.366 --> 36:10.000 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% and to get people together. 36:10.066 --> 36:13.666 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:70% And maybe they were a little mischievous, but not normally, 36:14.800 --> 36:16.266 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% they were just meant to be a good time. 36:16.333 --> 36:20.533 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% And they looked good. And it talked about probably youth. 36:20.600 --> 36:24.633 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% Now I must have seen a Putto in glass 36:24.700 --> 36:27.466 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:60% or a thought, or I don't know how I came about it, 36:27.533 --> 36:30.166 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% but I asked Pino to make a Putto 36:31.300 --> 36:33.966 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:45% and it was just, I just loved it in glass. 36:34.033 --> 36:37.566 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:62.5% He looked better in glass than he ever looked in wood 36:37.633 --> 36:39.666 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% or plaster or bronze. 36:39.733 --> 36:44.800 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% It's just somehow the perfect material for a Putto is glass. 36:46.033 --> 36:48.700 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% And so whenever I can get Pino to come over 36:48.766 --> 36:51.133 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% or sometimes I go to Murano, 36:51.200 --> 36:53.000 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% I always wanna make Putti with him. 36:56.800 --> 36:58.133 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% I just love these Putti. 36:58.200 --> 37:01.200 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% So I make 'em, I mean it's a completely, you know, 37:01.266 --> 37:03.266 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% whacked out series that doesn't relate 37:03.333 --> 37:04.833 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% to anything else I do. 37:06.766 --> 37:09.033 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% Not unlike, I suppose the Venetians were completely 37:09.100 --> 37:10.866 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:35% different from anything I had done. 37:11.700 --> 37:12.566 align:start position:37.5% line:84.67% size:25% Thank you. 37:13.566 --> 37:16.333 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% (upbeat music) 37:16.400 --> 37:19.433 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% (blowtorch hissing) 37:27.000 --> 37:30.466 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 37:33.466 --> 37:37.233 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% (people speaking in Italian) 37:41.033 --> 37:44.500 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 38:00.000 --> 38:03.000 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% (blowtorch hissing) 38:08.566 --> 38:12.033 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 38:19.166 --> 38:22.633 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 38:24.066 --> 38:27.666 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% I wanted to tell you a little bit about Pino Signoretto. 38:27.733 --> 38:31.233 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% I consider him the best glass sculptor alive. 38:31.300 --> 38:34.600 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% He's an unbelievable artist. 38:34.666 --> 38:37.766 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:42.5% And tonight we're gonna make a lobster, 38:37.833 --> 38:40.700 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% which he's working on right now, that'll be attached 38:40.766 --> 38:44.466 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% to a stopper that will then go on a big jug. 38:44.533 --> 38:49.433 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% Certain animals look really, really good in glass. 38:49.500 --> 38:51.633 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% The lobster's one that I think looks better 38:51.700 --> 38:53.533 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% in glass than anything else. 38:53.600 --> 38:57.733 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:70% So enjoy watching one of the great masters that's ever been. 38:59.500 --> 39:02.566 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% (audience applauding) 39:02.633 --> 39:04.566 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 39:04.633 --> 39:06.866 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% (people speaking Italian) 39:06.933 --> 39:10.000 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% (blowtorch hissing) 39:19.933 --> 39:23.366 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 39:28.700 --> 39:31.766 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% (blowtorch hissing) 39:36.966 --> 39:41.100 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% (Tom Tom Club singing in French) 39:44.466 --> 39:48.433 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% (people speaking indistinctly) 39:49.833 --> 39:50.933 align:start position:35% line:84.67% size:27.5% - Okay, go! 39:51.000 --> 39:54.966 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% (audience applauding and cheering) 39:59.466 --> 40:03.533 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% (audience applauding continues) 40:09.233 --> 40:12.266 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% (upbeat rock music) 40:20.100 --> 40:23.966 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% (upbeat rock music continues) 40:28.733 --> 40:30.200 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:50% - [Dale] You know, I have a great time working 40:30.266 --> 40:35.100 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:67.5% with Jimmy Mongrain because he's very strong, very skilled, 40:36.233 --> 40:37.833 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% and he's a great guy to work with. 40:37.900 --> 40:40.700 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% And one thing that I really like about him 40:40.766 --> 40:43.566 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% is that he loves to work large. 40:43.633 --> 40:44.966 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:40% Doesn't make any difference what it is, 40:45.033 --> 40:46.566 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% what series he's working on. 40:47.833 --> 40:49.833 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% They just keep getting bigger and bigger. 40:49.900 --> 40:51.733 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% And I encourage that 40:51.800 --> 40:55.366 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:52.5% because I don't know, I'm sort of the same way. 40:55.433 --> 40:57.566 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% You know, I like pieces big. 40:57.633 --> 41:00.933 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 41:08.200 --> 41:10.933 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% Now Ikebana is a word, you know, that means, 41:11.000 --> 41:14.166 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% it's you know, a ritualistic type of flower arranging 41:15.466 --> 41:18.400 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:52.5% in Japan that I don't even know if I understand 41:18.466 --> 41:20.266 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% it's total relevance. 41:20.333 --> 41:23.333 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% But it's a very high art form 41:23.400 --> 41:24.833 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% and I just love the word Ikebana. 41:24.900 --> 41:27.800 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:62.5% So I used it because many of the Venetians, you know, 41:27.866 --> 41:30.100 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% had flower forms coming out of them. 41:30.166 --> 41:34.866 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% And I usually use the word Ikebana when the flower 41:34.933 --> 41:37.600 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:45% in the Venetian or flowers become separate. 41:38.966 --> 41:41.666 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% We pushed it as far as we could with the Venetians. 41:41.733 --> 41:43.233 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% The only other thing we could do 41:43.300 --> 41:46.733 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:62.5% is begin to make separate parts and add them into it. 41:46.800 --> 41:49.366 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% And that's really where the term Ikebana comes from. 41:49.433 --> 41:52.533 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% If it's a Venetian or a form that has separate parts 41:52.600 --> 41:55.366 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:42.5% coming out of it, then it's an Ikebana. 41:55.433 --> 41:58.800 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 42:21.733 --> 42:22.933 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% - [Jimmy] Okay, Michael. 42:28.533 --> 42:29.566 align:start position:35% line:84.67% size:30% - All right. 42:31.400 --> 42:35.066 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 42:35.133 --> 42:36.666 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:45% Let me blow on it. 42:39.366 --> 42:44.400 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% Don't worry about (indistinct) 42:47.933 --> 42:51.433 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 42:52.733 --> 42:53.500 align:start position:37.5% line:84.67% size:25% Slow down. 42:59.366 --> 43:02.333 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% (objects clattering) 43:09.566 --> 43:11.533 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% (upbeat music) 43:36.900 --> 43:39.333 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% - We gotta go. - Go fast! 43:39.400 --> 43:40.866 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% We're good now. We're good. 43:40.933 --> 43:42.466 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% - Keep it on center as best you can. 43:42.533 --> 43:44.066 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:37.5% Keep it coming. 43:44.133 --> 43:46.133 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% - [Dale] It was about 10 years ago that I went to the island 43:46.200 --> 43:48.866 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:37.5% of Nii-jima, an overnight boat ride 43:48.933 --> 43:51.233 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% off of Tokyo in the Tokyo Bay. 43:51.300 --> 43:54.033 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:37.5% And while I was there, I was reminded 43:54.100 --> 43:57.533 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% of the Japanese fishing floats, which always intrigued me 43:57.600 --> 44:00.000 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% that I used to collect on the beach when I was a kid 44:00.066 --> 44:02.933 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% in Washington on the Pacific Ocean. 44:03.000 --> 44:06.866 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:65% So not long after I was in Nii-jima, I started a series 44:06.933 --> 44:11.966 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:55% of round balls and the idea was to make them big 44:13.133 --> 44:15.800 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% and to use a lot of color in different ways. 44:15.866 --> 44:18.000 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% And so we started making these floats 44:19.300 --> 44:21.966 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:55% that eventually got up to 40 inches in diameter, 44:22.033 --> 44:26.800 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% which is by far the largest piece of glass that we make. 44:26.866 --> 44:30.233 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% It's just, it's a huge piece of glass. 44:30.300 --> 44:32.933 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% One of the most complicated things we've ever made. 44:33.000 --> 44:35.333 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% And it takes a big team, very focused 44:36.400 --> 44:37.866 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% with a great glass blower. 44:37.933 --> 44:39.500 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% In this case it's Rich Royal. 44:41.200 --> 44:42.633 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% - [Rich] Blow, please. 44:42.700 --> 44:45.033 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% - [Dale] The floats were, I don't know 44:45.100 --> 44:46.366 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% what it was with the floats. 44:46.433 --> 44:47.900 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% I mean there was this connection 44:47.966 --> 44:49.800 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% to the Japanese fishing float, 44:49.866 --> 44:52.466 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% but there was also just the simplicity 44:52.533 --> 44:56.033 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% of this beautiful sphere. 44:56.100 --> 44:57.466 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% One of the most natural forms 44:57.533 --> 44:59.633 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% that you can make in glass is a sphere. 44:59.700 --> 45:03.066 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% So, you know, it's a simple thing to make. 45:03.133 --> 45:04.300 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:45% If it weren't big. 45:04.366 --> 45:05.533 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% You know when it gets big, 45:05.600 --> 45:07.633 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:35% it gets really complicated to make. 45:08.533 --> 45:09.400 align:start position:35% line:84.67% size:27.5% - Drooling. 45:10.700 --> 45:13.433 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% You don't care if we put foil on or not. Do You? 45:13.500 --> 45:14.700 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% - [Dale] If it's on the outside. 45:14.766 --> 45:15.700 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% - [Rich] It'll be on the outside. 45:15.766 --> 45:16.933 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% - Then don't put silver. 45:17.000 --> 45:18.133 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:45% - [Rich] We're not using silver at all. 45:18.200 --> 45:19.900 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:35% It's all gold. - Yeah, gold is good. 45:19.966 --> 45:20.900 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:45% - [Rich] All gold. 45:22.266 --> 45:26.200 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% (audience exclaiming) 45:26.266 --> 45:29.633 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% - [Dale] (laughs) Whoo! 45:32.533 --> 45:34.366 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% - Take it Jimmy. - Got it. 45:34.433 --> 45:37.533 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:32.5% - [Group] Oh! 45:37.600 --> 45:40.633 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% (blowtorch hissing) 45:42.833 --> 45:43.700 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% - [Rich] Stop. 45:45.200 --> 45:48.766 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% - [Dale] It fell off a blow pipe. He might save it. 45:48.833 --> 45:50.166 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% I don't know if it touched down. 45:50.233 --> 45:51.833 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% If it touched down, he can't. 45:53.933 --> 45:55.133 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:32.5% - Stay on it. 45:55.200 --> 45:56.300 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% - [Dale] I don't think it did touch down. 45:56.366 --> 45:57.733 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% He probably would've thrown it out. 45:58.966 --> 46:01.066 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% - [Rich] Okay, get on it now, Michael. 46:01.133 --> 46:02.766 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% (blowtorch hissing) 46:02.833 --> 46:04.133 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% That other torch is actually- 46:04.200 --> 46:06.833 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% - [Dale] I don't really like making these things. 46:06.900 --> 46:09.600 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% They're a little dangerous all the way around. 46:09.666 --> 46:11.100 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% - I don't know if this is gonna work. 46:11.166 --> 46:13.500 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% It gives us something to do while we're waiting, huh? 46:15.333 --> 46:16.100 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:40% That looks good. 46:16.166 --> 46:17.366 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% I think we're done. 46:17.433 --> 46:20.700 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% - [Announcer] Try and roll it over here. 46:20.766 --> 46:21.666 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:45% - Gotta be gentle. 46:23.033 --> 46:26.766 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% - [Announcer] Nice save. (audience applauding) 46:26.833 --> 46:31.866 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% Hot shot team. 46:32.700 --> 46:35.866 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% (people speak indistinctly) 46:38.300 --> 46:39.433 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% - [Rich] Got it, Dave? 46:40.500 --> 46:41.733 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:32.5% Get down low. - Right. 46:41.800 --> 46:42.733 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% - Nice and gentle guys. - Bring that shoulder 46:42.833 --> 46:43.800 align:start position:35% line:84.67% size:27.5% back there. 46:46.566 --> 46:47.433 align:start position:40% line:84.67% size:17.5% Oh, oh! 46:52.300 --> 46:54.800 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% (audience applauding) 46:54.866 --> 46:57.500 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% Okay, keep it turning. Keep it turning. 46:57.566 --> 46:58.666 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% Keep it turning. One direction. 46:58.733 --> 47:00.200 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% Keep the compressed air on it. Go! 47:00.266 --> 47:01.366 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:32.5% - Hard, hard. - Blowing. 47:01.433 --> 47:03.500 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:32.5% - Go, go, go. - Blowing. Blowing. 47:04.700 --> 47:05.833 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% - [Team Member] That's as hard as it'll go. 47:05.900 --> 47:07.233 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% - That's good. Keep. 47:07.300 --> 47:08.066 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% - That's good. - Stop. 47:08.133 --> 47:09.866 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:42.5% - No, don't stop. 47:09.933 --> 47:10.766 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% - [Team Member] Keep blowing! 47:10.833 --> 47:12.400 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% - I like that shape, Rich. 47:12.466 --> 47:13.600 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:45% - [Rich] I do too. 47:13.666 --> 47:15.133 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:37.5% Yeah, let's go. 47:15.200 --> 47:16.200 align:start position:35% line:84.67% size:27.5% - Okay, go. 47:17.733 --> 47:18.666 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% - [Dale] I can't believe it. 47:18.733 --> 47:20.500 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% Didn't have a touchdown, did it? 47:20.566 --> 47:22.033 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% - Oh yeah, it had a hole. 47:22.100 --> 47:26.000 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% That's why (indistinct) started falling all over the place. 47:26.066 --> 47:29.366 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% (audience applauding) 47:32.533 --> 47:34.766 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% - It had a touchdown? 47:34.833 --> 47:36.900 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:45% - Yeah, it kind of folded back on itself. 47:38.600 --> 47:39.800 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% - They did it. 47:39.866 --> 47:40.633 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:42.5% - Best save ever. 47:40.700 --> 47:42.066 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:42.5% - Best save ever. 47:42.133 --> 47:44.066 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% - Biggest save ever, anyway. 47:44.133 --> 47:45.633 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% You don't have to be a very good glassblower 47:45.700 --> 47:47.500 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% when you can fix stuff. 47:47.566 --> 47:49.266 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% - I got another one. 47:50.133 --> 47:53.033 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% (upbeat music) 47:53.100 --> 47:54.400 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:37.5% - Okay, Robert. 48:27.500 --> 48:28.900 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:42.5% - Jimmy Mongrain. 48:28.966 --> 48:30.300 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% (audience cheering) 48:30.366 --> 48:31.633 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:37.5% Jimmy Mongrain. 48:31.700 --> 48:34.900 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% (people cheer) 48:34.966 --> 48:37.000 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% - [Rich] I think we just go right to the bat. 48:40.733 --> 48:43.200 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:42.5% After we heat it. 48:43.266 --> 48:45.966 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:65% - [Dale] Robbie just said, when Dave Walters is hobbling, 48:46.033 --> 48:47.566 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% you know, it's heavy. 48:59.266 --> 49:00.000 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% - [Dale] I always said I wasn't gonna 49:00.066 --> 49:01.666 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% make any more of these. 49:01.733 --> 49:03.066 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% They scare me. 49:03.133 --> 49:05.300 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% But what we do now, we line 'em with silver 49:06.700 --> 49:09.900 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:62.5% and then we line 'em with foam so that if they break, 49:09.966 --> 49:11.733 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% nothing much happens, 49:11.800 --> 49:13.033 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% but they could break while you're making. 49:13.100 --> 49:14.000 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% - [Team Member] It's too big for the oven. 49:14.066 --> 49:15.466 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% - [Dale] Won't go in the oven? 49:17.766 --> 49:20.966 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% (audience applauding) 49:23.133 --> 49:24.000 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:45% (glass shattering) 49:24.066 --> 49:27.100 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% (audience groaning) 49:30.000 --> 49:30.866 align:start position:40% line:84.67% size:17.5% - Stop. 49:35.033 --> 49:38.566 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 49:41.500 --> 49:42.666 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% - That's a great piece. 49:44.166 --> 49:48.000 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% (audience applauding) 50:01.866 --> 50:03.133 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% (people chattering) 50:03.200 --> 50:05.866 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% (pencil scratching) 50:05.933 --> 50:09.033 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% (blowtorch hissing) 50:09.100 --> 50:10.200 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% - [Team Member] The outside of this? 50:10.266 --> 50:11.333 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:42.5% - On the outside. 50:11.400 --> 50:12.200 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% Should go around the cardboard tube. 50:12.266 --> 50:13.166 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:40% Wrap those ones. 50:14.000 --> 50:15.100 align:start position:40% line:84.67% size:17.5% - Sure. 50:15.166 --> 50:16.566 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% - [Team Member] Still the same colors? 51:09.766 --> 51:10.900 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:32.5% - Blow! Blow! 51:11.733 --> 51:12.666 align:start position:35% line:84.67% size:27.5% Blow! Blow! 51:25.400 --> 51:27.700 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% (audience applauding) 51:27.766 --> 51:32.033 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% - Yeah, figure out what to work it. Let's make one. 52:04.000 --> 52:06.933 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% - [Dale] Joey DeCamp, who heads up my glass shop, 52:07.000 --> 52:11.500 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% I think first came to work with the team in 1988. 52:12.800 --> 52:17.300 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% And he's really fantastic at making Fiori parts. 52:19.166 --> 52:21.566 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% People, you know, have asked what inspired me 52:21.633 --> 52:26.666 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% to do the Fiori, it wasn't so much trying to 52:27.833 --> 52:31.000 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:47.5% replicate plants as it was a way to work 52:31.066 --> 52:33.266 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% with all the techniques that we've learned 52:33.333 --> 52:35.633 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% for the last 35 or 40 years. 52:35.700 --> 52:38.366 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:42.5% So as you look at the Fiori, you'll see 52:38.433 --> 52:41.233 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% all the other series of my work in there somewhere. 52:41.300 --> 52:42.266 align:start position:37.5% line:84.67% size:20% I think. 52:42.366 --> 52:46.366 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% - [Joey] Swing it, swing it. (blowtorch hissing) 52:46.666 --> 52:48.266 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:60% - [Dale] You know, there are many different styles 52:48.333 --> 52:53.400 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:65% to the Fiori and Joey does a great job at making those. 53:36.633 --> 53:39.233 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% - I just thought, you know, it'd look really cool 53:39.300 --> 53:41.500 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% to have a chandelier with those paddles coming out. 53:41.566 --> 53:43.100 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% - Yeah, yeah, yeah. 53:43.166 --> 53:45.766 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% (upbeat music) 53:53.600 --> 53:57.333 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 53:57.400 --> 53:59.966 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% - [Joey] No air. No air, no air. 54:37.066 --> 54:39.300 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% (audience applauding) 54:39.366 --> 54:41.500 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% - To participate in something like that was, 54:41.566 --> 54:43.233 align:start position:17.5% line:10% size:65% I'm not gonna say it was a once in a lifetime thing. 54:43.300 --> 54:44.400 align:start position:25% line:10% size:45% 'cause I'd like to think something like 54:44.466 --> 54:46.733 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% that might happen again someday. 54:46.800 --> 54:49.400 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% (upbeat music) 55:11.233 --> 55:14.266 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% (upbeat rock music) 55:22.533 --> 55:25.966 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% (upbeat music continues) 56:24.533 --> 56:26.766 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% (upbeat music)