1 00:00:00,667 --> 00:00:01,901 - Hi, thanks for joining us 2 00:00:01,901 --> 00:00:04,571 for The Family Plot: Gardening in the Mid-South. 3 00:00:04,571 --> 00:00:05,939 I'm Chris Cooper. 4 00:00:05,939 --> 00:00:08,441 Biting into a juicy fruit from your orchard 5 00:00:08,441 --> 00:00:10,377 is a great reward for a gardener, 6 00:00:10,377 --> 00:00:12,679 but often fruits have problems. 7 00:00:12,679 --> 00:00:15,915 Today we are answering viewer questions about tree fruits. 8 00:00:15,915 --> 00:00:18,718 It's a fruity Q&A show, just ahead 9 00:00:18,718 --> 00:00:22,389 on The Family Plot: Gardening in the Mid-South. 10 00:00:22,389 --> 00:00:23,857 - (female announcer) Production funding 11 00:00:23,857 --> 00:00:25,625 for The Family Plot: Gardening in the Mid-South 12 00:00:25,625 --> 00:00:27,460 is provided by 13 00:00:27,460 --> 00:00:29,929 the WKNO Production Fund, 14 00:00:29,929 --> 00:00:32,298 the WKNO Endowment Fund, 15 00:00:32,298 --> 00:00:35,735 and by viewers like you, thank you. 16 00:00:35,735 --> 00:00:38,271 [upbeat country music] 17 00:00:45,645 --> 00:00:47,147 - Welcome to The Family Plot. 18 00:00:47,147 --> 00:00:48,415 I'm Chris Cooper. 19 00:00:48,415 --> 00:00:49,716 Over the past year or so, 20 00:00:49,716 --> 00:00:52,986 we have received many viewer questions about tree fruits. 21 00:00:52,986 --> 00:00:55,588 We have not had a chance to show you all of them. 22 00:00:55,588 --> 00:00:57,457 Since it's winter and there's not much to do 23 00:00:57,457 --> 00:00:58,725 in the garden right now, 24 00:00:58,725 --> 00:01:01,094 we thought we'd spend some time catching up. 25 00:01:01,094 --> 00:01:02,996 Hopefully some of these answers will help you 26 00:01:02,996 --> 00:01:04,731 with your fruit next year. 27 00:01:04,731 --> 00:01:06,933 Let's start with a question about peaches. 28 00:01:09,269 --> 00:01:12,305 "What would you do with a peach tree with gummosis?" 29 00:01:12,305 --> 00:01:14,474 And this is Mary from Crossville, Tennessee. 30 00:01:14,474 --> 00:01:16,543 Celeste, so what would you do with peach trees 31 00:01:16,543 --> 00:01:18,011 that have gummosis? 32 00:01:18,011 --> 00:01:21,314 - Well, I would encourage her to go out there 33 00:01:21,314 --> 00:01:24,551 and look at the trunk of the tree, 34 00:01:24,551 --> 00:01:27,887 and let's verify what exactly is happening. 35 00:01:27,887 --> 00:01:31,991 Gummosis is a real thing that could happen on its own, 36 00:01:31,991 --> 00:01:33,359 right? - Right. 37 00:01:33,359 --> 00:01:35,528 - But it sounds more likely that she might be 38 00:01:35,528 --> 00:01:39,766 having an issue with borers, and when they bore, 39 00:01:41,134 --> 00:01:44,270 then sometimes we'll have oozing of, you know, 40 00:01:44,270 --> 00:01:48,475 that gummy substance, and so it can look like gummosis, 41 00:01:48,475 --> 00:01:51,678 but maybe the actual, maybe that's a secondary, 42 00:01:51,678 --> 00:01:53,713 right, issue, and maybe the root cause 43 00:01:55,115 --> 00:01:57,217 is peach tree borers, 'cause it's peach trees, right? 44 00:01:57,217 --> 00:01:58,351 - Right, it's peach trees. 45 00:01:58,351 --> 00:01:59,986 - So there you go, yeah. - Could be, yep. 46 00:01:59,986 --> 00:02:02,055 - I think that would be a very likely cause, 47 00:02:02,055 --> 00:02:06,659 and I get this call, you know, all the time in the spring 48 00:02:06,659 --> 00:02:08,795 when trees start coming out of dormancy 49 00:02:08,795 --> 00:02:10,864 and their juices start to flow, 50 00:02:10,864 --> 00:02:14,167 and people wanna know what is all of this stuff 51 00:02:14,167 --> 00:02:16,102 coming outta my plants? 52 00:02:16,102 --> 00:02:18,905 It can be kind of a horror movie looking, 53 00:02:18,905 --> 00:02:20,440 you know, kind of scenario. 54 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:21,741 But definitely go out there and look, 55 00:02:21,741 --> 00:02:23,576 because, you know, treatment for those 56 00:02:23,576 --> 00:02:24,811 is gonna be different. 57 00:02:24,811 --> 00:02:27,180 If it's borers, then we need to look 58 00:02:27,180 --> 00:02:30,717 at what we can do to control the borers. 59 00:02:30,717 --> 00:02:34,154 If it's gummosis, then there's really not a lot 60 00:02:34,154 --> 00:02:35,655 that we can do. 61 00:02:35,655 --> 00:02:38,758 Generally that was caused, you know, from damage maybe 62 00:02:38,758 --> 00:02:40,226 that happened to the trunk. 63 00:02:40,226 --> 00:02:43,730 It could be through a number of different types of stresses, 64 00:02:43,730 --> 00:02:46,599 environmental, you know, freeze and thaw cracks 65 00:02:46,599 --> 00:02:49,068 or mechanical injury to the tree 66 00:02:49,068 --> 00:02:50,670 or different things like this. 67 00:02:52,105 --> 00:02:54,307 And then when that injury happens, 68 00:02:54,307 --> 00:02:56,809 then that gummosis starts to flow out, 69 00:02:56,809 --> 00:02:58,912 and there's just nothing you can really do 70 00:02:58,912 --> 00:03:01,114 to rectify that type of situation. 71 00:03:01,114 --> 00:03:03,383 - You're right, you know, outside of trying to prune, 72 00:03:03,383 --> 00:03:04,784 you know, possibly, you know? - Yeah. 73 00:03:04,784 --> 00:03:06,186 Well, and I mean, sometimes it's, yeah, 74 00:03:06,186 --> 00:03:07,720 it's one of those things that could be insect, 75 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:08,955 it could be physiological. 76 00:03:08,955 --> 00:03:10,657 There could even be some diseases. 77 00:03:10,657 --> 00:03:11,991 There could even be some canker. 78 00:03:11,991 --> 00:03:14,527 So yeah, close inspection, good pictures, 79 00:03:14,527 --> 00:03:17,497 and then direct from there. 80 00:03:17,497 --> 00:03:18,665 - And I see it actually, I mean, 81 00:03:18,665 --> 00:03:20,867 I see it most often on the trunks 82 00:03:20,867 --> 00:03:22,302 of trees, and I mean- - I do too, right, yeah. 83 00:03:22,302 --> 00:03:23,870 - At that point, like, can't prune your trunk off. 84 00:03:23,870 --> 00:03:25,305 - You can't prune your trunk. 85 00:03:25,305 --> 00:03:26,873 I mean, you could do a prune, but it'd be [whooshes]. 86 00:03:26,873 --> 00:03:28,408 - Right, right. - Be one cut. 87 00:03:28,408 --> 00:03:29,909 - It'd be one cut, one cut. - Yeah, one cut. 88 00:03:29,909 --> 00:03:32,212 But yeah, if it's in, you know, upper, you know, limbs, 89 00:03:32,212 --> 00:03:33,846 branches and things like that, I mean, pruning 90 00:03:33,846 --> 00:03:36,115 is an option. - Well, and that whole family, 91 00:03:36,115 --> 00:03:37,750 you know, it's a challenge. - Oh, yes, the Prunus, 92 00:03:37,750 --> 00:03:39,018 the whole family, yeah. - The family, yeah, yeah. 93 00:03:39,018 --> 00:03:40,653 - Yeah, for sure, so it's gonna be, 94 00:03:41,654 --> 00:03:44,824 they're gonna have issues anyway, right, so yeah. 95 00:03:44,824 --> 00:03:46,960 Get out, Ms. Mary, and inspect, all right? 96 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:48,962 Hope that helps you out. - Yeah, look for little holes 97 00:03:48,962 --> 00:03:50,196 in the trunk, yeah. - Yeah, look for 98 00:03:50,196 --> 00:03:51,331 the little holes, yeah, you'll see it. 99 00:03:51,331 --> 00:03:53,900 [gentle country music] 100 00:03:55,268 --> 00:03:56,869 "I am helping my neighbor. 101 00:03:56,869 --> 00:04:00,473 "Her peach tree has peach leaf curl. 102 00:04:00,473 --> 00:04:01,708 "The tree already has fruit 103 00:04:01,708 --> 00:04:03,643 "about the size of my little fingertip. 104 00:04:03,643 --> 00:04:05,111 "I have researched the disease. 105 00:04:05,111 --> 00:04:07,580 "However, everything I've found 106 00:04:07,580 --> 00:04:11,384 "is for preventive care, fungicides twice a year. 107 00:04:11,384 --> 00:04:14,454 "The products I have found warn against using them 108 00:04:14,454 --> 00:04:16,489 "once the tree blossoms. 109 00:04:16,489 --> 00:04:19,459 What can I use to get rid of peach leaf curl?" 110 00:04:19,459 --> 00:04:23,229 And this is Charlie from San Jose, California, right? 111 00:04:23,229 --> 00:04:25,531 So there's a little research, you know, that went into that. 112 00:04:25,531 --> 00:04:27,667 So we know it's peach leaf curl. 113 00:04:27,667 --> 00:04:29,302 - Yep, and they- 114 00:04:29,302 --> 00:04:31,638 - But how do we get rid of it? - And she told us the answer. 115 00:04:31,638 --> 00:04:33,339 - Yeah, yeah, how about that? 116 00:04:33,339 --> 00:04:34,907 - Or Charlie, Charlie. - Charlie. 117 00:04:34,907 --> 00:04:36,309 - Charlie, he told us the answer. 118 00:04:38,111 --> 00:04:40,513 Once you've got the disease, unfortunately, 119 00:04:42,015 --> 00:04:45,785 most of the time, you can't get rid of it. 120 00:04:45,785 --> 00:04:47,387 The only thing-- - I knew you were gonna 121 00:04:47,387 --> 00:04:48,888 say that. - That you can hope to do 122 00:04:48,888 --> 00:04:50,390 is prevent it from spreading. 123 00:04:50,390 --> 00:04:51,557 - I knew you were gonna say that. 124 00:04:51,557 --> 00:04:56,729 - And you can prune, do some pruning, 125 00:04:57,897 --> 00:05:00,099 summer pruning to get rid of that. 126 00:05:00,099 --> 00:05:02,101 But to prevent it from happening, 127 00:05:02,101 --> 00:05:05,438 you do need to use the fungicide at the right time. 128 00:05:05,438 --> 00:05:07,607 And really with peach tree curl, 129 00:05:07,607 --> 00:05:10,743 only one application is all that's required. 130 00:05:10,743 --> 00:05:13,079 You can either do it in the fall 131 00:05:13,079 --> 00:05:16,949 after leaf has dropped off that tree 132 00:05:16,949 --> 00:05:19,485 and do a really, really, really good job 133 00:05:19,485 --> 00:05:22,322 of spraying the bark, making sure you spray the bark 134 00:05:22,322 --> 00:05:25,758 and twigs and get very, very good coverage. 135 00:05:25,758 --> 00:05:29,495 Or you can do it in early spring before bud break. 136 00:05:29,495 --> 00:05:34,233 And you're probably gonna have a better opportunity 137 00:05:34,233 --> 00:05:36,703 in the fall after the leaves drop 138 00:05:36,703 --> 00:05:38,604 of getting the weather conditions 139 00:05:38,604 --> 00:05:41,107 that will allow you to have that fungicide stay on there 140 00:05:41,107 --> 00:05:43,242 and not get washed off- - Right, that's the key. 141 00:05:43,242 --> 00:05:44,877 - Than you will in the springtime. 142 00:05:44,877 --> 00:05:46,112 - It's the weather. - You know, right before 143 00:05:46,112 --> 00:05:48,314 bud break because you spray it and then it washes it off. 144 00:05:48,314 --> 00:05:49,515 - Right, right. - And you're like, 145 00:05:49,515 --> 00:05:51,451 "Well, did I kill the fungi," you know? 146 00:05:52,752 --> 00:05:54,220 But once you- - That's a good point. 147 00:05:54,220 --> 00:05:57,490 - Once you kill it, you know, it won't be a problem. 148 00:05:58,758 --> 00:06:01,160 And you know, there are a lot of fungicides 149 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,364 that will do the trick, chlorothalonil, ziram, 150 00:06:04,364 --> 00:06:07,133 ferbam, fixed copper, bordeaux. 151 00:06:07,133 --> 00:06:09,402 You know, there's a lot of fungicides 152 00:06:09,402 --> 00:06:13,673 that will do the trick, but that will be the only way 153 00:06:13,673 --> 00:06:16,676 that you will not have that problem in the future. 154 00:06:16,676 --> 00:06:18,878 - Okay, but yeah. - But once you've got, 155 00:06:18,878 --> 00:06:23,316 most diseases, once you've got that disease, 156 00:06:23,316 --> 00:06:27,887 it stays there, and your best hope 157 00:06:27,887 --> 00:06:29,856 is to prevent it from spreading. 158 00:06:29,856 --> 00:06:32,358 Your best hope is to prevent it from ever occurring, 159 00:06:32,358 --> 00:06:34,694 and that's why we go with preventative 160 00:06:34,694 --> 00:06:36,896 fungicide applications. - That's right. 161 00:06:36,896 --> 00:06:38,898 - And that's why, you know, that's why we go, 162 00:06:38,898 --> 00:06:42,502 we use cover sprays on fruits, 163 00:06:42,502 --> 00:06:47,507 and that's why cover sprays on pecans 164 00:06:48,841 --> 00:06:51,244 and then on roses and whatever, you know, whatever. 165 00:06:51,244 --> 00:06:54,680 It's timing and then putting the right product 166 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:55,982 out there at the right time. 167 00:06:55,982 --> 00:06:57,817 - And those preventative fungicides, again, 168 00:06:57,817 --> 00:06:59,852 could be the ones you just listed for us, 169 00:06:59,852 --> 00:07:00,953 right? - Right. 170 00:07:00,953 --> 00:07:02,688 - The fixed coppers and chlorothalonil. 171 00:07:02,688 --> 00:07:04,891 - Right, just check the label. - Check the label. 172 00:07:04,891 --> 00:07:07,026 - The disease will be on the label 173 00:07:07,026 --> 00:07:08,761 of the fungicide that's out there. 174 00:07:08,761 --> 00:07:11,364 [gentle country music] 175 00:07:12,231 --> 00:07:13,733 - "I bought a peach tree online, 176 00:07:13,733 --> 00:07:16,502 "and it quickly started to get purple-colored spots 177 00:07:16,502 --> 00:07:18,004 "on the leaves and stem. 178 00:07:18,004 --> 00:07:21,407 "Now it has worsened, and almost every leaf has it, 179 00:07:21,407 --> 00:07:23,576 "and they have yellow edges as well. 180 00:07:23,576 --> 00:07:25,244 Please help me save my peach." 181 00:07:25,244 --> 00:07:28,414 And this is Dua from Sicklerville, New Jersey. 182 00:07:28,414 --> 00:07:29,449 All right. 183 00:07:29,449 --> 00:07:30,750 So can we help her, Dr. Kelly? 184 00:07:30,750 --> 00:07:33,352 - Yeah, I think we can tell her what the problem is, 185 00:07:33,352 --> 00:07:36,422 but it's really hard to control the disease 186 00:07:36,422 --> 00:07:39,025 called bacterial spot. - Oh, yes it is. 187 00:07:39,025 --> 00:07:41,360 - In the homeowner situation. - Yes, it is. 188 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:42,562 - If she's a big orchard grower, 189 00:07:42,562 --> 00:07:44,197 you know, there's chemicals and things, 190 00:07:44,197 --> 00:07:47,366 but it's hard, but we think it's bacterial spot 191 00:07:47,366 --> 00:07:49,335 from the pictures and the description, 192 00:07:49,335 --> 00:07:51,237 'cause it'll have a little shot hole where the- 193 00:07:51,237 --> 00:07:53,372 - Exactly. - The tissue would die out, 194 00:07:53,372 --> 00:07:55,508 and it'll be little holes through the leaves. 195 00:07:55,508 --> 00:07:57,176 and I think we saw that 196 00:07:57,176 --> 00:07:58,678 on the leaves. - We definitely saw that 197 00:07:58,678 --> 00:08:00,279 and those leaves, of course look tattered and torn. 198 00:08:00,279 --> 00:08:03,316 - Yeah, yeah, yeah, and you can get, 199 00:08:03,316 --> 00:08:05,685 not to say that you couldn't probably save that one, 200 00:08:05,685 --> 00:08:09,455 but what you can do is to maybe prune it out, 201 00:08:09,455 --> 00:08:12,391 open it up a little bit so that it will dry quickly 202 00:08:12,391 --> 00:08:13,626 when you have wet weather 203 00:08:13,626 --> 00:08:17,263 because it is a bacterial infection. 204 00:08:17,263 --> 00:08:20,066 And you can use resistant varieties 205 00:08:20,066 --> 00:08:23,703 if this one does pass on to glory. 206 00:08:23,703 --> 00:08:27,240 There's some cultivars that are resistant to bacterial spot, 207 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:28,708 when I did a little research. 208 00:08:28,708 --> 00:08:30,209 And one of 'em is The Belle of Georgia, 209 00:08:30,209 --> 00:08:32,979 which is an old, old variety and Southaven and Redhaven. 210 00:08:32,979 --> 00:08:34,213 - Yeah, I know both of those. 211 00:08:34,213 --> 00:08:38,217 - And those are just a few, but remove debris, 212 00:08:38,217 --> 00:08:39,952 the leaves when they fall. - Yeah, good sanitation. 213 00:08:39,952 --> 00:08:41,454 - Get rid of all of that, 214 00:08:41,454 --> 00:08:43,656 because you know, you've got the spores of the bacteria 215 00:08:43,656 --> 00:08:44,891 in that, so. - That's right, 216 00:08:44,891 --> 00:08:47,460 and it's tough. - Yeah, it it's hard, yeah. 217 00:08:47,460 --> 00:08:49,996 - It's gonna be tough, resistant varieties, yeah, pruning. 218 00:08:49,996 --> 00:08:52,765 - Maybe if you can get rid of all of it this winter 219 00:08:52,765 --> 00:08:55,535 and put fresh mulch, prune it out, you know, 220 00:08:55,535 --> 00:08:57,103 while it's dormant. - Good air circulation. 221 00:08:57,103 --> 00:08:59,839 - And maybe, you know, it won't be so bad next year. 222 00:08:59,839 --> 00:09:02,708 - Right, yeah, and I would say, Dua, 223 00:09:02,708 --> 00:09:04,010 go to your local Extension Office. 224 00:09:04,010 --> 00:09:05,711 They probably have a publication. 225 00:09:05,711 --> 00:09:06,913 - They probably, they do. 226 00:09:06,913 --> 00:09:08,447 - There's probably a spray guide. 227 00:09:08,447 --> 00:09:11,284 You know, 'cause I can hear Mr. D. in my head saying, 228 00:09:11,284 --> 00:09:13,219 "Peaches, plums, and nectarines 229 00:09:13,219 --> 00:09:16,022 need to be on a spray schedule. - They do, they definitely do, 230 00:09:16,022 --> 00:09:18,291 'cause they are so prone to disease 231 00:09:18,291 --> 00:09:20,860 and insects in the Mid-South. - They definitely are. 232 00:09:20,860 --> 00:09:22,061 They definitely are, so Dua, yeah, 233 00:09:22,061 --> 00:09:23,529 go to your local Extension Office there 234 00:09:23,529 --> 00:09:25,398 and get that spray guide, that'll help you out. 235 00:09:25,398 --> 00:09:28,267 - Now, I think you can get a dormant spray 236 00:09:28,267 --> 00:09:29,502 of some kind of copper. 237 00:09:29,502 --> 00:09:30,970 - You can, you can. - And spray that. 238 00:09:30,970 --> 00:09:31,971 As a homeowner, you could do that. 239 00:09:31,971 --> 00:09:33,339 - You can definitely do that. 240 00:09:33,339 --> 00:09:34,774 - During the dormant season, and that will help, 241 00:09:34,774 --> 00:09:37,643 you know, with maybe it coming back out in the spring 242 00:09:37,643 --> 00:09:39,745 looking a little better maybe. - Right, so yeah, right. 243 00:09:39,745 --> 00:09:40,980 Copper-based fungicide, you can definitely do. 244 00:09:40,980 --> 00:09:42,481 Just read and follow the label on that, 245 00:09:42,481 --> 00:09:43,883 of course. - Right. 246 00:09:43,883 --> 00:09:44,984 - And I think you'll be just fine. 247 00:09:44,984 --> 00:09:46,285 Yeah, picking up that spray guide, 248 00:09:46,285 --> 00:09:47,553 yeah, that'll help you out. - Yeah, that'll help. 249 00:09:47,553 --> 00:09:49,655 That'll help a great deal. - That's for sure. 250 00:09:49,655 --> 00:09:52,224 [gentle country music] 251 00:09:53,092 --> 00:09:54,627 - "My eight-year-old peach tree 252 00:09:54,627 --> 00:09:56,696 "has been having problems the last few years. 253 00:09:56,696 --> 00:10:00,299 "Blossoms and leaves are only on the top third of the tree. 254 00:10:00,299 --> 00:10:02,435 "I get very little fruit, too. 255 00:10:02,435 --> 00:10:05,004 "I do get new shoots from the bottom half each year, 256 00:10:05,004 --> 00:10:07,840 "but not until later in the year. 257 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,710 "Why does only the top third of my peach tree 258 00:10:10,710 --> 00:10:12,244 "get leaves and blossoms? 259 00:10:12,244 --> 00:10:15,448 Thanks," and this is RBM Cobra on YouTube. 260 00:10:16,616 --> 00:10:18,818 So what do we think about that one? 261 00:10:18,818 --> 00:10:20,987 Yeah, just the top third. - I have a couple 262 00:10:20,987 --> 00:10:22,688 of questions, you know, I wonder- 263 00:10:22,688 --> 00:10:24,557 - Maybe nice to have a picture of that one, too, yeah. 264 00:10:24,557 --> 00:10:27,627 - Yeah, yeah, I wonder how, 265 00:10:27,627 --> 00:10:31,530 I wonder what variety the peach tree is. 266 00:10:31,530 --> 00:10:34,700 I wonder where RBM lives. 267 00:10:34,700 --> 00:10:36,469 - Yeah, okay, that's fair. 268 00:10:38,070 --> 00:10:42,108 - I do know that peaches aren't as long lived 269 00:10:43,476 --> 00:10:46,045 as some of the other fruits that are out there. 270 00:10:46,045 --> 00:10:48,447 Pears and apple trees will last longer. 271 00:10:48,447 --> 00:10:51,617 An eight-year-old peach tree is not an old peach tree, 272 00:10:51,617 --> 00:10:53,519 but it sounds like you've been having problems 273 00:10:53,519 --> 00:10:55,054 for the last few years. 274 00:10:55,054 --> 00:10:59,258 So maybe three or four years you've been having problems. 275 00:10:59,258 --> 00:11:03,262 There is a phenomena in the peach business 276 00:11:03,262 --> 00:11:04,997 called peach tree short life. 277 00:11:04,997 --> 00:11:07,500 - Oh! [laughing] - And it's got, there's like- 278 00:11:07,500 --> 00:11:10,136 - I'll bet. - 10 or 12 different things 279 00:11:10,136 --> 00:11:13,305 or maybe even more now that can be a problem. 280 00:11:13,305 --> 00:11:18,310 And it ranges from, you know, the wrong soil pH 281 00:11:19,545 --> 00:11:21,247 to the wrong variety in the wrong place, 282 00:11:21,247 --> 00:11:24,116 chill hours not quite being right, 283 00:11:24,116 --> 00:11:26,085 you know, needing a few more chill hours 284 00:11:26,085 --> 00:11:31,057 or getting a few, you know, a few too many chill hours, 285 00:11:35,494 --> 00:11:40,032 and there's a phony peach disease 286 00:11:40,032 --> 00:11:42,201 which spends part of its life cycle 287 00:11:42,201 --> 00:11:45,037 as a plum tree, it's plum leaf scald, 288 00:11:45,037 --> 00:11:46,906 if you've got plum trees around. 289 00:11:47,773 --> 00:11:52,745 And there's just several things 290 00:11:53,846 --> 00:11:56,382 that all go into peach tree short life, 291 00:11:56,382 --> 00:12:00,152 and it sounds like that may be what you have here, 292 00:12:00,152 --> 00:12:02,855 and it's not just one thing. 293 00:12:02,855 --> 00:12:07,593 But it sounds like you only have one peach tree, which is, 294 00:12:07,593 --> 00:12:09,161 they're self-pollinating. - Self-pollinating, yeah. 295 00:12:09,161 --> 00:12:10,930 - So it doesn't require two. 296 00:12:10,930 --> 00:12:15,935 But if you started having problems, 297 00:12:17,103 --> 00:12:18,504 you know, four years, three or four years, 298 00:12:18,504 --> 00:12:22,007 that gives me an idea that the peach tree's 299 00:12:22,007 --> 00:12:23,275 not where it needs to be, 300 00:12:23,275 --> 00:12:26,512 that the chill hours may not be quite right. 301 00:12:26,512 --> 00:12:29,215 - Okay. - That's my guess. 302 00:12:30,416 --> 00:12:31,717 - And without a picture, you know, 303 00:12:31,717 --> 00:12:32,952 it's really kinda hard to tell, 304 00:12:32,952 --> 00:12:36,122 'cause you know, maybe look at the trunk. 305 00:12:36,122 --> 00:12:38,057 You know, do we see any frass? 306 00:12:38,057 --> 00:12:39,525 Could there be- 307 00:12:39,525 --> 00:12:41,160 - If there's borers in it- - A peach tree borer? 308 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,896 - If there's borers in it, it's dying, and it's dead, 309 00:12:43,896 --> 00:12:45,765 and it doesn't know it's dead yet, you know? 310 00:12:45,765 --> 00:12:47,266 - Right, right. 311 00:12:47,266 --> 00:12:49,668 - You know, I'm wondering about white peach scale, 312 00:12:49,668 --> 00:12:51,137 you know? - Okay, right, right. 313 00:12:51,137 --> 00:12:54,473 - That could be on, you know, certain parts of the tree, 314 00:12:54,473 --> 00:12:57,276 and where it is, you won't have any foliage. 315 00:12:57,276 --> 00:12:59,278 But it's just, I've not seen one 316 00:12:59,278 --> 00:13:02,982 that blossoms and leaves are only on the top third 317 00:13:02,982 --> 00:13:04,183 of the tree. - Yeah, top third, yep. 318 00:13:04,183 --> 00:13:08,387 - Top third, that's just, you know, 319 00:13:08,387 --> 00:13:10,289 that just sounds like something, 320 00:13:10,289 --> 00:13:12,358 I don't know whether, can deer reach the top 321 00:13:12,358 --> 00:13:14,293 to the bottom two-thirds? [Chris laughing] 322 00:13:14,293 --> 00:13:15,861 You know, if you got a bunch of deer, 323 00:13:15,861 --> 00:13:17,396 are they eating off that? 324 00:13:17,396 --> 00:13:19,665 Do you have a, it's called a browse line 325 00:13:19,665 --> 00:13:21,367 in nature when you look out- 326 00:13:21,367 --> 00:13:23,302 - Yeah, I've seen that. - and everything's wide open 327 00:13:23,302 --> 00:13:26,505 up to two or three feet, you know, off the ground 328 00:13:26,505 --> 00:13:28,707 as far as the deer can reach, you know? 329 00:13:28,707 --> 00:13:33,679 I mean, do you have that or a deer problem out there, but- 330 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:34,947 - Yeah, it seems like we have more, 331 00:13:34,947 --> 00:13:36,148 yeah, we have more questions, yeah. 332 00:13:36,148 --> 00:13:37,583 So it'd be good to, you know, get a picture 333 00:13:37,583 --> 00:13:38,884 just so we can take a look. 334 00:13:38,884 --> 00:13:42,454 - It sounds like she does get some blossoms, 335 00:13:42,454 --> 00:13:47,259 and I guess that tells me that they get some fruit. 336 00:13:47,259 --> 00:13:49,094 But something's not right there. 337 00:13:49,094 --> 00:13:50,362 - Okay. 338 00:13:50,362 --> 00:13:53,599 - I would, I'd probably start with a soil test. 339 00:13:53,599 --> 00:13:54,967 Make sure you pH is right, 340 00:13:56,268 --> 00:13:59,271 but I just have a feeling that that tree 341 00:13:59,271 --> 00:14:02,208 sounds like it's not where it's supposed to be. 342 00:14:02,208 --> 00:14:04,810 [gentle country music] 343 00:14:05,978 --> 00:14:08,581 - "So we put out a new orchard in 2018. 344 00:14:08,581 --> 00:14:11,450 "We have peaches, apples, and a Ayers pear 345 00:14:11,450 --> 00:14:13,752 "that I'd hoped would be cross-pollinated 346 00:14:13,752 --> 00:14:15,821 "by an old pear on the property. 347 00:14:15,821 --> 00:14:18,824 "The new pear tree has never even blossomed. 348 00:14:18,824 --> 00:14:21,060 "I asked the nursery where we purchased the trees 349 00:14:21,060 --> 00:14:22,995 "about why that might be. 350 00:14:22,995 --> 00:14:25,097 "I was instructed to be sure to prune the tree 351 00:14:25,097 --> 00:14:27,499 "in early spring to force the blooms. 352 00:14:27,499 --> 00:14:29,835 "But so far, we have no blooms. 353 00:14:29,835 --> 00:14:32,471 "Why is my pear tree not blooming? 354 00:14:32,471 --> 00:14:35,808 What can I do to make it bloom?" And this is Sandra. 355 00:14:35,808 --> 00:14:37,776 So this is a interesting question. 356 00:14:37,776 --> 00:14:39,278 We talked about this a little earlier. 357 00:14:39,278 --> 00:14:43,215 - Yeah, very interesting, and there's several things. 358 00:14:43,215 --> 00:14:45,651 You know, I'm not sure where Sandra lives. 359 00:14:45,651 --> 00:14:47,186 I'm not sure what zone she's in. 360 00:14:47,186 --> 00:14:50,489 I do know that the Ayers pear requires 361 00:14:50,489 --> 00:14:52,691 only 300 chill hours, 362 00:14:52,691 --> 00:14:57,296 so it's a very, very low chill hour, you know, fruit. 363 00:14:57,296 --> 00:15:00,733 It does very good in the southern United States, 364 00:15:00,733 --> 00:15:02,101 extreme southern United States. 365 00:15:02,101 --> 00:15:03,269 - Right, and what do we mean by chill hours, 366 00:15:03,269 --> 00:15:04,770 just in case somebody- 367 00:15:04,770 --> 00:15:08,507 - Chill hours are the number of hours below 45 degrees 368 00:15:08,507 --> 00:15:10,709 that a lot of fruits have to have. 369 00:15:10,709 --> 00:15:12,645 They have a set number of chill hours they have to have. 370 00:15:12,645 --> 00:15:15,714 I mean, peaches are from 300, 371 00:15:15,714 --> 00:15:17,983 two hundred and fifty to a thousand, 372 00:15:17,983 --> 00:15:19,318 twelve hundred chill hours. 373 00:15:19,318 --> 00:15:23,289 So you need to make sure that when you plant any fruit 374 00:15:23,289 --> 00:15:25,691 that you check the chill hour requirements 375 00:15:25,691 --> 00:15:28,294 and match them to the zone that you live in. 376 00:15:28,294 --> 00:15:30,062 - Yeah, that's a good point. 377 00:15:30,062 --> 00:15:32,398 - And that's very, very important 378 00:15:32,398 --> 00:15:34,166 with fruits especially. 379 00:15:35,334 --> 00:15:37,870 Now, another thing on pears, 380 00:15:37,870 --> 00:15:40,339 and I've got a couple pears in my yard. 381 00:15:40,339 --> 00:15:41,540 - I actually have one as well. 382 00:15:41,540 --> 00:15:43,242 - And I have one that fruits very good, 383 00:15:43,242 --> 00:15:45,344 and I have one that doesn't fruit well at all. 384 00:15:45,344 --> 00:15:49,882 And they're a little different. 385 00:15:49,882 --> 00:15:54,286 They do not require very much fertilizer. 386 00:15:54,286 --> 00:15:58,590 A rule of thumb on fertilizer for pear trees 387 00:15:58,590 --> 00:16:00,926 is 3/4 of a pound. 388 00:16:00,926 --> 00:16:03,095 Now, this is from my old days at Auburn, 389 00:16:03,095 --> 00:16:05,798 three-quarters of a pound of triple-eight per tree 390 00:16:05,798 --> 00:16:09,301 per year of age up to a maximum of seven pounds 391 00:16:09,301 --> 00:16:11,804 for an older tree. 392 00:16:11,804 --> 00:16:14,273 You never give more than a seven pounds of triple-eight, 393 00:16:14,273 --> 00:16:15,708 which is not very much 394 00:16:15,708 --> 00:16:17,409 fertilizer for an old tree- - Yeah, that's not, yeah. 395 00:16:17,409 --> 00:16:20,846 - But 3/4 of a pound of triple-8 per tree per year of age. 396 00:16:20,846 --> 00:16:22,147 So, 397 00:16:25,684 --> 00:16:28,053 if your pear tree is in your yard 398 00:16:28,053 --> 00:16:30,289 and you fertilize your yard, 399 00:16:30,289 --> 00:16:31,857 or if you're fertilizing your pear tree 400 00:16:31,857 --> 00:16:33,892 the same way you're fertilizing your apple trees, 401 00:16:33,892 --> 00:16:35,361 your peach trees, and other trees, 402 00:16:35,361 --> 00:16:36,729 you're giving it too much fertilizer. 403 00:16:36,729 --> 00:16:38,230 - Okay, I see where you're doing. 404 00:16:38,230 --> 00:16:40,466 - So it's going vegetative instead of reproductive. 405 00:16:40,466 --> 00:16:41,467 - Okay. 406 00:16:42,468 --> 00:16:46,171 - And that could be a problem with pears. 407 00:16:46,171 --> 00:16:48,073 So you treat pears a little different. 408 00:16:49,108 --> 00:16:50,843 - What about pollination? Do they- 409 00:16:50,843 --> 00:16:53,712 - They do require cross-pollination, 410 00:16:53,712 --> 00:16:56,682 but if it's not, a bloom's not showing up, 411 00:16:56,682 --> 00:16:58,517 you know, pollination's not going on. 412 00:16:58,517 --> 00:17:00,019 - That's right. - But they do require 413 00:17:00,019 --> 00:17:02,254 cross-pollination, and you need to have a pear tree 414 00:17:02,254 --> 00:17:05,224 that blooms at the same time that this one is blooming. 415 00:17:06,859 --> 00:17:08,994 But they're saying-- - Yeah, it's never 416 00:17:08,994 --> 00:17:10,629 - There's no blossom showing up, no blossoms, 417 00:17:10,629 --> 00:17:12,097 and so that's why, you know, I didn't, 418 00:17:12,097 --> 00:17:15,601 you know, but they do require cross-pollination. 419 00:17:15,601 --> 00:17:18,003 And that is probably part of the problem 420 00:17:18,003 --> 00:17:20,672 with the pear that I have. 421 00:17:20,672 --> 00:17:21,640 I have two pears. 422 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:23,976 One of them gets pollinated, 423 00:17:23,976 --> 00:17:27,579 probably not by the pear that's not blooming. 424 00:17:27,579 --> 00:17:30,449 And I don't think it's got one blooming around 425 00:17:30,449 --> 00:17:33,986 within insect, honeybee flight distance 426 00:17:33,986 --> 00:17:36,989 that is probably blooming at the same time it blooms. 427 00:17:36,989 --> 00:17:40,292 But that's very important, right, so. 428 00:17:40,292 --> 00:17:42,027 - Sure, but yeah, but the fertilizing, 429 00:17:42,027 --> 00:17:44,329 yeah, that's, yeah, I didn't think about that. 430 00:17:46,131 --> 00:17:49,701 - But that's really the only thing I can think of. 431 00:17:49,701 --> 00:17:51,570 I would make sure you're not over-fertilizing. 432 00:17:51,570 --> 00:17:52,905 I mean, you're fertilizing your yard heavy. 433 00:17:52,905 --> 00:17:54,840 If you got a pretty yard around that pear tree, 434 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:57,209 then that tells me that, you know, that could be 435 00:17:57,209 --> 00:17:59,445 part of your problem. - Yeah, too much fertilizer. 436 00:17:59,445 --> 00:18:02,481 - Another thing would be, you know, 437 00:18:02,481 --> 00:18:07,486 I doubt that it's, if you planted this tree up north, 438 00:18:09,088 --> 00:18:12,191 it would break, when it got its 300 chill hours, 439 00:18:12,191 --> 00:18:14,593 the first warm spell it had, if it's in January, 440 00:18:14,593 --> 00:18:16,528 it's gonna break dormancy, and it's gonna- 441 00:18:16,528 --> 00:18:18,030 - Which happens. 442 00:18:18,030 --> 00:18:21,600 - And then it's gonna, it's probably gonna get killed, 443 00:18:21,600 --> 00:18:23,335 because if it's, you know, breaks dormancy 444 00:18:23,335 --> 00:18:25,304 and then the temperature drops to 20 degrees 445 00:18:25,304 --> 00:18:26,472 or 10 degrees, you know, 446 00:18:26,472 --> 00:18:29,007 it's probably not gonna survive up north. 447 00:18:29,007 --> 00:18:34,012 So probably in a zone where the air should work. 448 00:18:35,514 --> 00:18:37,983 But even a 300-hour 449 00:18:40,452 --> 00:18:42,654 pear up here in Tennessee, 450 00:18:42,654 --> 00:18:45,691 this far north, this is on the northern edge 451 00:18:45,691 --> 00:18:50,596 of where that zone is, could create a problem 452 00:18:50,596 --> 00:18:52,297 with years like we had this past year. 453 00:18:52,297 --> 00:18:54,967 I mean, how many ornamentals have we seen? 454 00:18:54,967 --> 00:18:57,569 How much freeze damage have we seen after last, 455 00:18:58,604 --> 00:19:01,306 that late freeze that we had? - Devastated plants. 456 00:19:01,306 --> 00:19:03,075 - It has been very devastating, so I don't know. 457 00:19:03,075 --> 00:19:05,444 And now another thing I don't know about this, 458 00:19:05,444 --> 00:19:07,513 how old, okay, well, the tree is five years old. 459 00:19:07,513 --> 00:19:08,747 - Yeah, it's five years old. 460 00:19:08,747 --> 00:19:09,948 - The tree's five years old, okay. 461 00:19:09,948 --> 00:19:13,852 I don't know how old a Ayers pear is 462 00:19:13,852 --> 00:19:14,920 when it starts blooming. 463 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:16,622 - Ah, okay. 464 00:19:16,622 --> 00:19:18,957 - So it may need to be six or seven years old, you know, 465 00:19:18,957 --> 00:19:20,592 and I know there's some pecans 466 00:19:20,592 --> 00:19:22,794 that they've gotta have several years on 'em 467 00:19:22,794 --> 00:19:25,097 before they start, you know, blooming 468 00:19:25,097 --> 00:19:27,366 and, you know, producing fruit. 469 00:19:27,366 --> 00:19:29,935 [gentle country music] 470 00:19:31,537 --> 00:19:34,673 - "I bought a persimmon tree about three years ago. 471 00:19:34,673 --> 00:19:36,775 "The next year I got fruit. 472 00:19:36,775 --> 00:19:38,911 "It's the one that looks like an apple. 473 00:19:38,911 --> 00:19:40,913 "During the winter, it froze to the stump. 474 00:19:40,913 --> 00:19:42,848 "The next year, small branches shot up 475 00:19:42,848 --> 00:19:44,850 "and made about eight fruits, 476 00:19:44,850 --> 00:19:46,218 "but they all fell off. 477 00:19:46,218 --> 00:19:48,120 "This year, I covered it during the frost. 478 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:51,790 "My persimmon branches have lots of flowers and small fruits, 479 00:19:51,790 --> 00:19:53,792 "but they're beginning to fall off. 480 00:19:53,792 --> 00:19:54,993 What should I do?" 481 00:19:54,993 --> 00:19:57,996 This is Jean from Ocala, Florida. 482 00:19:57,996 --> 00:19:59,398 - Ah, interesting. - Ah, from Florida, 483 00:19:59,398 --> 00:20:00,933 growing persimmon, how about that? 484 00:20:00,933 --> 00:20:02,134 So what do you think about that? 485 00:20:02,134 --> 00:20:03,902 It's a interesting question. 486 00:20:03,902 --> 00:20:05,170 - Yeah, well- - Yeah. 487 00:20:05,170 --> 00:20:06,305 It actually froze to the stump, 488 00:20:06,305 --> 00:20:07,606 I'm just realizing, in Florida. 489 00:20:07,606 --> 00:20:09,508 - Yeah, yeah, that's- - How about that? 490 00:20:09,508 --> 00:20:11,043 - That's pretty, yeah. - Yeah, okay. 491 00:20:11,043 --> 00:20:14,713 - 'Cause we have some that live as perennial trees here. 492 00:20:14,713 --> 00:20:16,848 So that's interesting. - Yeah, it is. 493 00:20:16,848 --> 00:20:18,750 - That froze to the stump, 494 00:20:18,750 --> 00:20:20,319 but it's got a lot of blooms 495 00:20:20,319 --> 00:20:22,521 and fruit that's falling off. 496 00:20:22,521 --> 00:20:23,789 - It's falling off. 497 00:20:23,789 --> 00:20:26,325 - You know, it could be that, several things, 498 00:20:26,325 --> 00:20:29,194 but one thing comes to mind is if it's got that many 499 00:20:29,194 --> 00:20:33,632 flowers and fruit on it, the tree might not be able to, 500 00:20:33,632 --> 00:20:36,435 you know, finish off, you know, 501 00:20:36,435 --> 00:20:39,004 going to ripening all of that fruit, 502 00:20:39,004 --> 00:20:41,506 and it might be just self-pruning itself, 503 00:20:41,506 --> 00:20:44,543 'cause it can't support all of that. 504 00:20:44,543 --> 00:20:46,411 That's one thing that comes to mind. 505 00:20:47,879 --> 00:20:51,583 And the other thing is maybe it's, I mean, what kind of, 506 00:20:51,583 --> 00:20:54,786 I'm curious as why it would've died to the ground. 507 00:20:56,054 --> 00:20:58,490 Is it an area that it doesn't like too much? 508 00:20:58,490 --> 00:21:02,527 Like, is it too wet, or is it too dry? 509 00:21:02,527 --> 00:21:07,532 I mean, why is there a stump there? 510 00:21:07,532 --> 00:21:10,335 Because like I said, most persimmons are trees, 511 00:21:10,335 --> 00:21:14,773 and they live, so I don't know why it died. 512 00:21:14,773 --> 00:21:17,576 - So you have more questions. - I have more questions. 513 00:21:17,576 --> 00:21:18,710 - For Ms. Jean. 514 00:21:18,710 --> 00:21:20,212 - It could be the environment that it's in. 515 00:21:20,212 --> 00:21:21,680 - Yeah, so it could be environmental factors, 516 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,015 and you know, of course my, you know, 517 00:21:23,015 --> 00:21:25,917 my mind goes immediately to, was it fertilized? 518 00:21:25,917 --> 00:21:27,853 Could it be too much nitrogen fertilizer? 519 00:21:27,853 --> 00:21:29,054 - Oh, that's true. - Or could it be, 520 00:21:29,054 --> 00:21:31,423 you know, too wet, right? 521 00:21:32,424 --> 00:21:35,127 'Cause yeah, the persimmon, what, maybe three years old? 522 00:21:35,127 --> 00:21:36,595 - Yeah, that's not very old. 523 00:21:36,595 --> 00:21:39,131 - Maybe it needs to, you know, use all of its energy 524 00:21:39,131 --> 00:21:41,300 to develop the root system, you know, 525 00:21:41,300 --> 00:21:43,902 instead of trying to ripen the fruit. 526 00:21:43,902 --> 00:21:45,037 - True. - So I'm just thinking 527 00:21:45,037 --> 00:21:46,605 about environmental factors. 528 00:21:46,605 --> 00:21:47,839 - Yeah. - Yeah. 529 00:21:47,839 --> 00:21:50,208 - And I wouldn't let all of those, 530 00:21:51,376 --> 00:21:52,878 if it's coming up from the stump, 531 00:21:52,878 --> 00:21:57,883 I wouldn't let every single one of those stalks stay. 532 00:21:57,883 --> 00:22:01,086 I would pick a few, 'cause you know, it's gonna get bigger. 533 00:22:01,086 --> 00:22:02,554 - Right, right. - Each one of 'em 534 00:22:02,554 --> 00:22:04,056 is gonna get bigger, and you don't want 'em to grow together 535 00:22:04,056 --> 00:22:07,893 and you want the fruits to produce larger fruits. 536 00:22:07,893 --> 00:22:12,898 So I would pick three and keep the best three 537 00:22:14,333 --> 00:22:16,401 that hopefully are evenly spaced around the stump 538 00:22:16,401 --> 00:22:19,771 so that it has room to grow. 539 00:22:19,771 --> 00:22:22,140 - Right, right, but yeah, just more questions. 540 00:22:22,140 --> 00:22:23,375 - Yeah, more questions. - But I mean, 541 00:22:23,375 --> 00:22:24,643 those are things that come to my mind 542 00:22:24,643 --> 00:22:27,179 anytime I hear about fruit trees dropping, 543 00:22:27,179 --> 00:22:28,246 you know, their fruit. 544 00:22:29,715 --> 00:22:31,950 All right, so yeah, so Ms. Jean, thank you much, 545 00:22:31,950 --> 00:22:33,752 and maybe a picture, you know? - Yeah, a picture. 546 00:22:33,752 --> 00:22:35,654 - I would've loved to have seen a picture of that one, yeah. 547 00:22:35,654 --> 00:22:37,255 - And maybe she can contact her local 548 00:22:37,255 --> 00:22:39,791 agriculture Extension service. - Sure, sure. 549 00:22:39,791 --> 00:22:41,593 - And they could come out and help her. 550 00:22:41,593 --> 00:22:44,096 - Sure, yeah, they do a good job there at Florida Extension, 551 00:22:44,096 --> 00:22:46,064 so that would be a good recommendation. 552 00:22:47,499 --> 00:22:49,301 So yeah, contact your local Extension agent, Ms. Jean. 553 00:22:49,301 --> 00:22:51,370 See if they can come out and help you out with that. 554 00:22:51,370 --> 00:22:53,972 [gentle country music] 555 00:22:55,140 --> 00:22:57,042 "I have mango and naseberry trees 556 00:22:57,042 --> 00:22:59,444 "that have black soot on the leaves. 557 00:22:59,444 --> 00:23:01,680 "How do I get rid of the black coating? 558 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,081 "I tried soapy water 559 00:23:03,081 --> 00:23:06,184 "with all the natural ingredients without success. 560 00:23:06,184 --> 00:23:08,253 I would appreciate any assistance." 561 00:23:08,253 --> 00:23:11,289 And this is Grace from central Florida. 562 00:23:11,289 --> 00:23:14,292 So can you provide Grace with some assistance, Celeste? 563 00:23:14,292 --> 00:23:15,761 - So this is kind of going back 564 00:23:15,761 --> 00:23:17,829 to what we talked about at the beginning of this episode 565 00:23:17,829 --> 00:23:21,566 with the black sooty mold forming on that honeydew, 566 00:23:22,968 --> 00:23:27,539 and so probably aphids or some other soft-bodied insect, 567 00:23:27,539 --> 00:23:30,442 right, that is feeding with that piercing, 568 00:23:30,442 --> 00:23:31,977 sucking-type mouthparts 569 00:23:31,977 --> 00:23:34,646 and creating that black sooty mold. 570 00:23:34,646 --> 00:23:38,750 So you know, they've tried soap, 571 00:23:38,750 --> 00:23:40,519 which was a good first attempt, right, 572 00:23:40,519 --> 00:23:44,756 because it is an insect that is causing this. 573 00:23:44,756 --> 00:23:46,858 You know, most people probably would go first 574 00:23:46,858 --> 00:23:49,127 to thinking that it was a fungal, you know, 575 00:23:49,127 --> 00:23:50,595 issue or something like that. 576 00:23:50,595 --> 00:23:52,864 So that was a good first attempt. 577 00:23:52,864 --> 00:23:56,168 But those soft-bodied insects can be so hard 578 00:23:56,168 --> 00:23:58,003 to control sometimes. - Yes, yes. 579 00:23:58,003 --> 00:24:02,007 - And so bumping up to some other types of products 580 00:24:02,007 --> 00:24:05,210 that are gonna be a little more broad spectrum 581 00:24:05,210 --> 00:24:09,681 is probably gonna be the way to go 582 00:24:09,681 --> 00:24:11,983 to help with getting those insects controlled. 583 00:24:11,983 --> 00:24:14,886 And then also I would caution them to beware 584 00:24:14,886 --> 00:24:17,889 after they do that first application 585 00:24:17,889 --> 00:24:20,725 to come back 7 to 10 laters, 586 00:24:20,725 --> 00:24:23,161 seven to ten days later and do it again, 587 00:24:24,296 --> 00:24:27,299 because oftentimes those pests will have, 588 00:24:27,299 --> 00:24:28,733 it'll control the adult forms, 589 00:24:28,733 --> 00:24:32,170 but maybe it doesn't control the egg form. 590 00:24:32,170 --> 00:24:34,239 And so, you know, 7 to 10 days later, 591 00:24:34,239 --> 00:24:35,240 you've got a whole new 592 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,708 crop of adults. - That's right. 593 00:24:36,708 --> 00:24:39,244 - So folks can be using a product 594 00:24:39,244 --> 00:24:41,179 and think it's ineffective, 595 00:24:41,179 --> 00:24:44,816 but maybe they just didn't use it often enough 596 00:24:44,816 --> 00:24:46,585 for it to be effective. 597 00:24:46,585 --> 00:24:49,321 So I see a couple different avenues for them to go there. 598 00:24:49,321 --> 00:24:51,823 They could stick with the soap if they wanna, you know, 599 00:24:51,823 --> 00:24:55,927 do least impact type kind of things 600 00:24:56,862 --> 00:24:58,730 with sequential applications. 601 00:24:58,730 --> 00:25:01,967 Then bump it up to maybe some oils, 602 00:25:01,967 --> 00:25:04,970 horticultural oils would be maybe the next. 603 00:25:04,970 --> 00:25:09,274 And then possibly look at some permethrin-type products. 604 00:25:09,274 --> 00:25:10,976 - All right, yeah, read and follow the label. 605 00:25:10,976 --> 00:25:13,078 Repeat application, folks. 606 00:25:13,078 --> 00:25:14,579 It's definitely gonna be that, for sure. 607 00:25:14,579 --> 00:25:17,949 - And one thing I would say is sometimes we'll see recipes 608 00:25:17,949 --> 00:25:21,186 for, you know, like I would suggest 609 00:25:21,186 --> 00:25:24,022 that it be an insecticidal soap. 610 00:25:24,022 --> 00:25:25,223 - Right, right. 611 00:25:25,223 --> 00:25:26,491 - You know, rather than something 612 00:25:26,491 --> 00:25:27,726 that's formulated- - Dish soap. 613 00:25:27,726 --> 00:25:29,227 - Right, yep, yep. - Right, right. 614 00:25:29,227 --> 00:25:31,029 - Yeah, and I know that's what you were thinking. 615 00:25:31,029 --> 00:25:32,497 I just wanted to throw that in there. 616 00:25:32,497 --> 00:25:33,431 - No, no, that's good. - 'Cause sometimes 617 00:25:33,431 --> 00:25:34,633 there's some homemade recipes 618 00:25:34,633 --> 00:25:36,902 that may not provide the efficacy that we would hope. 619 00:25:36,902 --> 00:25:38,904 - Good clarification there. 620 00:25:38,904 --> 00:25:40,238 We don't wanna be going out there 621 00:25:40,238 --> 00:25:41,907 and like spraying bubbles of Joy. 622 00:25:41,907 --> 00:25:44,342 - No, we definitely don't wanna do that, yeah. 623 00:25:44,342 --> 00:25:46,945 Yeah, there's a difference between detergents and soaps, 624 00:25:46,945 --> 00:25:49,314 right, so we definitely wanna be careful. 625 00:25:49,314 --> 00:25:50,515 But yeah, can you get rid 626 00:25:50,515 --> 00:25:52,350 of the black sooty mold coating, though? 627 00:25:52,350 --> 00:25:54,953 'Cause that's usually a question we get. 628 00:25:54,953 --> 00:25:56,187 You know, I know Mother Nature 629 00:25:56,187 --> 00:25:57,989 kind of has to help you out with that. 630 00:25:57,989 --> 00:25:59,624 - To help weather it off. 631 00:25:59,624 --> 00:26:02,027 It'll naturally get weathered off, you know, 632 00:26:02,027 --> 00:26:04,563 eventually, if the plant is an outside plant. 633 00:26:04,563 --> 00:26:06,765 Now, if we're talking about houseplants, 634 00:26:06,765 --> 00:26:08,967 you might need to help that along with- 635 00:26:08,967 --> 00:26:10,201 - Yeah, you probably need to clean it. 636 00:26:10,201 --> 00:26:11,436 - Yeah. - And I think that depends 637 00:26:11,436 --> 00:26:15,206 a lot on the size of the plant and the location 638 00:26:15,206 --> 00:26:16,708 and that sort of thing. - Even maybe they have 639 00:26:16,708 --> 00:26:18,543 this mango, I don't know, maybe it's in a greenhouse. 640 00:26:18,543 --> 00:26:20,312 Then it would need some cleaning 641 00:26:20,312 --> 00:26:21,746 to try to help get that off 642 00:26:21,746 --> 00:26:23,915 and so the leaves can do photosynthesis. 643 00:26:23,915 --> 00:26:25,684 If they're all covered up with black sooty mold, 644 00:26:25,684 --> 00:26:27,719 they're not gonna be as efficient. 645 00:26:28,887 --> 00:26:30,989 - Remember, we love to hear from you. 646 00:26:30,989 --> 00:26:32,724 Send us a email or letter. 647 00:26:32,724 --> 00:26:36,328 The email address is familyplot@wkno.org, 648 00:26:36,328 --> 00:26:38,229 and the mailing address is Family Plot, 649 00:26:38,229 --> 00:26:42,801 7151 Cherry Farms Road, Cordova, Tennessee, 38016. 650 00:26:43,969 --> 00:26:47,505 Or you can go online to FamilyPlotGarden.com. 651 00:26:47,505 --> 00:26:49,207 That's all we have time for today. 652 00:26:49,207 --> 00:26:51,710 Thanks for sending in the questions. 653 00:26:51,710 --> 00:26:53,745 Hopefully we gave you some good information 654 00:26:53,745 --> 00:26:55,413 that can help you this spring. 655 00:26:55,413 --> 00:26:58,116 To learn more about anything we talked about today, 656 00:26:58,116 --> 00:27:00,685 go to FamilyPlotGarden.com. 657 00:27:00,685 --> 00:27:03,588 At the site, we have lots of information about growing fruit 658 00:27:03,588 --> 00:27:06,091 and how to take care of common problems. 659 00:27:06,091 --> 00:27:07,959 Thanks for watching. I'm Chris Cooper. 660 00:27:07,959 --> 00:27:09,394 Be sure to join us next week 661 00:27:09,394 --> 00:27:12,664 for The Family Plot: Gardening in the Mid-South. 662 00:27:12,664 --> 00:27:13,898 Be safe. 663 00:27:13,898 --> 00:27:16,501 [upbeat country music] 664 00:27:26,678 --> 00:27:28,680 [acoustic guitar chords]