1 00:00:01,133 --> 00:00:03,100 (Music) 2 00:00:03,100 --> 00:00:05,066 Donald Trump elected president. 3 00:00:05,066 --> 00:00:07,866 Mike Braun's decisive gubernatorial victory. 4 00:00:07,866 --> 00:00:10,833 Plus, Todd Rokita reelected, and more. 5 00:00:10,833 --> 00:00:13,466 From the television studios at Wfyi. 6 00:00:13,466 --> 00:00:15,166 It's Indiana Week in Review 7 00:00:15,166 --> 00:00:18,133 for the week ending November 8th, 2024. 8 00:00:22,766 --> 00:00:25,033 Indiana Week in Review is made possible 9 00:00:25,033 --> 00:00:28,200 by the supporters of Indiana Public Broadcasting stations. 10 00:00:30,500 --> 00:00:33,100 This week, Donald Trump won a sweeping victory 11 00:00:33,100 --> 00:00:34,900 to return to the white House, likely 12 00:00:34,900 --> 00:00:37,700 winning the popular vote as well as the Electoral College 13 00:00:37,700 --> 00:00:40,700 for the first time in his three runs for president. 14 00:00:41,966 --> 00:00:44,300 In Trump's victory remarks, he called his run 15 00:00:44,300 --> 00:00:46,833 the greatest political movement of our time 16 00:00:46,833 --> 00:00:49,200 and pledged to help the country heal. 17 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,333 Exit polling shows that Trump improved his margins from 2020, 18 00:00:52,333 --> 00:00:54,266 with nearly every demographic group 19 00:00:54,266 --> 00:00:57,500 while on track to win more states than he did in 2016. 20 00:00:57,933 --> 00:00:59,666 In Indiana, Trump appears headed toward 21 00:00:59,666 --> 00:01:02,800 a bigger margin of victory than 2020, and one that matches 22 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,533 and possibly even slightly improves on his 2016 win. 23 00:01:08,233 --> 00:01:11,400 Are you surprised at Trump's decisive victory? 24 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:14,600 It's the first question for our Indiana Week in Review panel. 25 00:01:15,000 --> 00:01:17,300 Democrat Ann DeLaney. 26 00:01:17,300 --> 00:01:19,833 Republican Mike O'Brien. 27 00:01:19,833 --> 00:01:22,666 Oseye Boyd, editor in chief of Mirror Indy. 28 00:01:22,666 --> 00:01:23,800 And Niki Kelly, editor 29 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:26,400 in chief of the Indiana Capital Chronicle. 30 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,733 I'm Indiana Public Broadcasting Statehouse bureau chief 31 00:01:28,733 --> 00:01:29,766 Brandon Smith. 32 00:01:29,766 --> 00:01:33,166 Mike, I think this always felt like a coin flip. 33 00:01:33,166 --> 00:01:36,800 So are you surprised that Trump won the way he did? 34 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,233 I think everyone's surprise, including Donald Trump. 35 00:01:39,233 --> 00:01:40,466 I mean, they were planning on, 36 00:01:40,466 --> 00:01:40,866 you know, being 37 00:01:41,666 --> 00:01:44,033 in the middle of a recount in suburban Philadelphia today, 38 00:01:44,033 --> 00:01:44,333 you know, 39 00:01:44,700 --> 00:01:45,866 not planning the transition 40 00:01:45,866 --> 00:01:48,433 that they were able to start planning on Tuesday night. 41 00:01:48,433 --> 00:01:51,666 you know, I said a few weeks ago and I was genuine in this. 42 00:01:51,666 --> 00:01:53,666 I was really curious on the Democrats strategy, 43 00:01:53,666 --> 00:01:55,200 and it was very well coordinated. 44 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:55,933 We haven't seen a better 45 00:01:56,300 --> 00:01:59,766 organized Democratic Party in Indiana in some time. 46 00:02:00,333 --> 00:02:01,800 Funded. Good candidates. 47 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:03,433 Coordinated. Certainly. Coordinated. 48 00:02:03,433 --> 00:02:05,566 Message on social issues. 49 00:02:05,566 --> 00:02:09,433 Clearly abortion was the tip of the spear on on the messaging. 50 00:02:09,966 --> 00:02:11,433 And I was curious if that was going to work and I 51 00:02:11,433 --> 00:02:15,966 and that strategy was based, I think, in red places, 52 00:02:16,533 --> 00:02:19,700 Oklahoma, Kentucky, Ohio that overwhelmingly passed 53 00:02:20,300 --> 00:02:23,300 abortion protections and protected women's rights. 54 00:02:24,100 --> 00:02:24,666 I think what? 55 00:02:25,266 --> 00:02:27,433 So I don't think Democrats got voter preferences wrong. 56 00:02:27,433 --> 00:02:30,600 I think what they got wrong was voters willingness 57 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:34,766 to be motivated by those enough to elect Kamala Harris. 58 00:02:35,800 --> 00:02:37,000 Because 59 00:02:37,000 --> 00:02:38,166 you look at places like Arizona, 60 00:02:38,166 --> 00:02:39,966 you put the question in front of them and say, 61 00:02:39,966 --> 00:02:41,733 do you support abortion rights? Yes. 62 00:02:41,733 --> 00:02:43,500 Who are you voting for? President Donald Trump? 63 00:02:43,500 --> 00:02:45,333 Well, don't you know he's the guy that appointed 64 00:02:45,333 --> 00:02:47,500 the US Supreme Court to overturn Roe v Wade? 65 00:02:47,500 --> 00:02:48,766 Yeah, but I don't care about this 66 00:02:48,766 --> 00:02:50,333 more than I care about all of this, 67 00:02:50,333 --> 00:02:53,766 which is the economy, wages, inflation, 68 00:02:53,766 --> 00:02:57,100 immigration and all the things that Donald Trump prioritized. 69 00:02:57,100 --> 00:03:01,466 And so my read on the back end is Democrats didn't really 70 00:03:01,933 --> 00:03:03,800 look at voter voters and look at Democrats and go, 71 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:04,600 we disagree with you. 72 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:06,133 We just don't care as much about those things 73 00:03:06,133 --> 00:03:07,766 as these do about these things. 74 00:03:07,766 --> 00:03:10,566 Where do Democrats go from here on a national level? 75 00:03:10,566 --> 00:03:14,000 Well, I think a lot depends on what he does now. 76 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:15,900 I mean, if he starts using the Army 77 00:03:15,900 --> 00:03:18,600 to round up everyone with brown skin in the country, 78 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:21,900 if he starts, he's supposed to be bringing world peace. 79 00:03:22,333 --> 00:03:24,866 He's supposed to be controlling inflation. 80 00:03:24,866 --> 00:03:27,266 He's supposed to be doing all of these things. 81 00:03:27,266 --> 00:03:30,266 And I don't think he's going to deliver at all. 82 00:03:30,533 --> 00:03:33,133 I mean, he doesn't believe in the rule of law. 83 00:03:33,133 --> 00:03:34,600 He tried to overthrow the government. 84 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:36,466 He lies habitually. 85 00:03:36,466 --> 00:03:38,333 He disrespects women. 86 00:03:38,333 --> 00:03:41,933 I mean, it's really amazing to me that he could have been 87 00:03:41,933 --> 00:03:44,366 put forth by the Republicans as the nominee. 88 00:03:44,366 --> 00:03:46,100 I understand they didn't like Biden 89 00:03:46,100 --> 00:03:48,000 and they didn't like Biden's policies. 90 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,600 But that perfectly flawed candidate 91 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,700 is now the president of the United States. 92 00:03:53,700 --> 00:03:55,466 Can he bring peace in the Middle East? 93 00:03:55,466 --> 00:03:59,900 Can he resolve the Ukrainian war without without undermining 94 00:04:00,500 --> 00:04:02,366 the Ukraine? Can he do that? 95 00:04:02,366 --> 00:04:04,566 You know, can he can he control inflation? 96 00:04:04,566 --> 00:04:06,800 Can he do all the things he's promised people? 97 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:07,700 The answer is no. 98 00:04:07,700 --> 00:04:08,866 The good news is it's not theoretical. 99 00:04:08,866 --> 00:04:11,866 We're going to find. Out not so. 100 00:04:11,866 --> 00:04:14,466 That it does make a difference for what happens from here. 101 00:04:14,466 --> 00:04:17,500 Because the off year election for that for Republicans 102 00:04:17,500 --> 00:04:18,300 could not be. 103 00:04:18,300 --> 00:04:18,533 But if. 104 00:04:19,133 --> 00:04:19,966 You spend the next two years talking 105 00:04:19,966 --> 00:04:21,200 about rounding up people on trains 106 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:21,733 and deport them, 107 00:04:22,433 --> 00:04:23,466 and that does not better happen then or people are going to 108 00:04:23,666 --> 00:04:26,066 look at you in 2026 and go, what are you talking about. Now? 109 00:04:26,066 --> 00:04:28,633 I want to if that's the. Expectation. 110 00:04:28,633 --> 00:04:29,700 You're saying if he does, if that's. 111 00:04:29,700 --> 00:04:31,733 The expectation, you're setting some pretty horrible 112 00:04:31,733 --> 00:04:33,100 things that are happening or people are going to go, 113 00:04:33,100 --> 00:04:34,300 no, this is fine. 114 00:04:34,300 --> 00:04:36,833 Okay, okay, I know he. Doesn't and you're going to loop. 115 00:04:36,833 --> 00:04:37,933 What if he doesn't? 116 00:04:37,933 --> 00:04:39,933 I want to I want to ask this, which is 117 00:04:40,900 --> 00:04:42,233 so much of this. 118 00:04:42,233 --> 00:04:44,966 I think the shock of this is because of Donald Trump, 119 00:04:44,966 --> 00:04:45,833 the person. 120 00:04:46,166 --> 00:04:49,366 But if I told you the party in power in the white House 121 00:04:49,700 --> 00:04:53,366 had under its watch record high inflation 122 00:04:53,366 --> 00:04:54,566 that people are still feeling 123 00:04:54,566 --> 00:04:57,566 even as inflation is, has normalized. 124 00:04:57,866 --> 00:04:59,633 And then they lost. 125 00:04:59,633 --> 00:05:01,266 Wouldn't that make sense? 126 00:05:01,266 --> 00:05:02,433 I mean, doesn't that follow 127 00:05:02,433 --> 00:05:04,266 like the way this country's elections have. 128 00:05:04,266 --> 00:05:07,233 Always worked against other presidencies historically? 129 00:05:07,233 --> 00:05:10,100 You know, it creates one term president things. 130 00:05:10,100 --> 00:05:11,266 And so, 131 00:05:11,266 --> 00:05:14,900 that's what we're seeing, I think because though Trump 132 00:05:14,900 --> 00:05:17,900 and his sort of a larger than life 133 00:05:17,900 --> 00:05:20,900 bombastic, you know, 134 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,500 you know, persona, I think people thought, well, 135 00:05:24,500 --> 00:05:26,500 maybe they could fight through 136 00:05:26,500 --> 00:05:30,300 the inflation or the economy or the wages of the jobs. 137 00:05:30,300 --> 00:05:33,333 But, you know, voters just they were 138 00:05:33,900 --> 00:05:36,033 they were voting with their, their pocketbook. 139 00:05:36,033 --> 00:05:39,433 And while inflation had normalized, when you go 140 00:05:39,433 --> 00:05:42,766 well, compared to four years ago, it's still. 141 00:05:42,766 --> 00:05:43,433 Higher. Yeah. 142 00:05:43,833 --> 00:05:46,066 It's as mean to me when I go to the store. Yeah. 143 00:05:46,066 --> 00:05:46,366 Yeah. 144 00:05:47,166 --> 00:05:49,166 You know, I don't think about oh it's normalized. So 145 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:50,866 yeah. 146 00:05:50,866 --> 00:05:51,766 You're not comparing. Yeah. 147 00:05:51,766 --> 00:05:52,900 They're not comparing the price. 148 00:05:52,900 --> 00:05:54,900 Years ago it was this price now is just. 149 00:05:54,900 --> 00:05:57,366 No it matters right now. Today. Yeah. 150 00:05:57,366 --> 00:05:59,166 You're going to. Go down right. 151 00:05:59,166 --> 00:06:00,933 Those prices are not going to go down. 152 00:06:00,933 --> 00:06:03,533 And if the tariffs come on they are going to go up. 153 00:06:03,533 --> 00:06:05,266 But nobody cared about that. 154 00:06:05,266 --> 00:06:06,800 Not now but yeah not now. 155 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:06,966 Yeah. 156 00:06:07,866 --> 00:06:09,633 But it's it's hard to argue in that negative space 157 00:06:09,633 --> 00:06:12,166 where you go well inflation was eight 1,012%. 158 00:06:12,166 --> 00:06:13,500 Now it's three 4 or 5%. 159 00:06:13,500 --> 00:06:14,800 But it could have been because of that. 160 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:17,133 But it's down seven but it's still up four right. 161 00:06:17,133 --> 00:06:17,766 Mike you're yeah. 162 00:06:17,766 --> 00:06:18,933 You're not comparing. It. 163 00:06:18,933 --> 00:06:19,966 So you're deciding when. 164 00:06:19,966 --> 00:06:21,400 You got when you go to the grocery store, 165 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:24,500 you're not comparing your bill and the prices on your bill to, 166 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,866 oh well, six months ago or a year ago, 167 00:06:26,866 --> 00:06:28,000 that's hasn't changed. 168 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,966 This is bad, but it hasn't changed. It hasn't changed 169 00:06:31,766 --> 00:06:32,300 yet. Right? 170 00:06:32,700 --> 00:06:34,600 Right now I'm in the store right now. Yeah. 171 00:06:34,600 --> 00:06:34,866 All right. 172 00:06:35,800 --> 00:06:38,400 Governor elect Mike Braun says his big election victory 173 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:40,766 gives him a platter of opportunity 174 00:06:40,766 --> 00:06:43,200 to tackle the kitchen table issues he ran on, 175 00:06:43,200 --> 00:06:46,166 including property tax and health care reform, 176 00:06:47,300 --> 00:06:49,266 says his double digit victory in the governor's 177 00:06:49,266 --> 00:06:51,466 race gives him a mandate that can help further 178 00:06:51,466 --> 00:06:54,533 his agenda, as he works with the state legislature. 179 00:06:54,533 --> 00:06:57,133 And I'll accept it humbly 180 00:06:57,133 --> 00:07:00,766 and try to engage everyone in my own party, 181 00:07:01,066 --> 00:07:04,100 along with the good ideas across the aisle. 182 00:07:04,466 --> 00:07:07,233 Braun says an initial focus of his transition will be 183 00:07:07,233 --> 00:07:10,300 reviewing state agencies and their leadership. 184 00:07:10,300 --> 00:07:12,133 It's going to be my vision 185 00:07:12,133 --> 00:07:15,133 of being an entrepreneurial governor 186 00:07:15,466 --> 00:07:18,366 that's going to be conservative on the financial side, 187 00:07:18,366 --> 00:07:21,566 but very entrepreneurial on the problem fixing side. 188 00:07:22,066 --> 00:07:23,800 Braun says he likes to move quickly 189 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:26,666 and to expect agency leadership announcements to start soon. 190 00:07:28,400 --> 00:07:30,000 Ann DeLaney, does Braun's win 191 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:33,033 give him greater leverage with the legislature? 192 00:07:33,033 --> 00:07:34,900 No, I mean, 193 00:07:34,900 --> 00:07:37,566 we have a weak governor ship with a simple override, 194 00:07:37,566 --> 00:07:38,766 and you've got a lot of crazy 195 00:07:38,766 --> 00:07:40,600 people in those Republican caucuses, 196 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,233 so I don't know how you necessarily control them. 197 00:07:43,233 --> 00:07:43,900 I know 198 00:07:43,900 --> 00:07:45,000 he says he's going to solve 199 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:48,400 all these problems, but I'd really like to know with 200 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,500 with the scaled back of income tax and corporate tax, 201 00:07:51,866 --> 00:07:54,233 how are you going to fix property tax? 202 00:07:54,233 --> 00:07:56,633 At the same time you fix what they screwed up 203 00:07:56,633 --> 00:07:59,300 with education over the last 10 or 15 years. 204 00:07:59,300 --> 00:07:59,833 I mean, 205 00:08:00,566 --> 00:08:03,133 the part of the reason property taxes are as high as they are 206 00:08:03,133 --> 00:08:06,366 is because the percentage of funding from the state budget 207 00:08:06,366 --> 00:08:09,366 for K through 12 traditional education has plummeted, 208 00:08:09,766 --> 00:08:13,233 and property taxes for per student have doubled over 209 00:08:13,233 --> 00:08:14,000 that period of time. 210 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:14,800 We have one of the 211 00:08:15,033 --> 00:08:18,233 highest property tax increases in the country. 212 00:08:18,766 --> 00:08:20,166 So what are you going to do with that? 213 00:08:20,166 --> 00:08:23,433 Is he going to continue or shrink the property tax? 214 00:08:23,433 --> 00:08:25,666 At the same time? He doesn't increase the funding. 215 00:08:25,666 --> 00:08:27,466 I think he's going to have a lot of rural school 216 00:08:27,466 --> 00:08:28,766 districts coming and saying, 217 00:08:28,766 --> 00:08:31,366 what are you doing to our education system 218 00:08:31,366 --> 00:08:34,000 where we have reading down, we have the number of people 219 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:37,133 from high post-high school getting additional education 220 00:08:37,133 --> 00:08:39,800 has also plummeted under their watch. 221 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:40,733 He's got some really 222 00:08:40,733 --> 00:08:42,200 big challenges ahead of him, 223 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:45,333 and he's got some crazies in his caucus know if they 224 00:08:45,333 --> 00:08:48,766 if they want to scale back these incremental decreases 225 00:08:48,966 --> 00:08:51,900 in income and corporate taxes that nobody really feels. 226 00:08:51,900 --> 00:08:55,166 Oh, I can predict fairly safely, that's not going to happen. 227 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:56,433 Do you. 228 00:08:56,633 --> 00:08:58,600 But but let me ask this. So again, 229 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,633 talking about that relationship with the legislature. 230 00:09:00,633 --> 00:09:01,900 The legislature 231 00:09:01,900 --> 00:09:04,466 has been Republican dominated for more than a decade now. 232 00:09:04,466 --> 00:09:06,766 We've had Republican governors obviously that whole time, 233 00:09:06,766 --> 00:09:10,166 and they've shown a relative willingness to go, that's nice. 234 00:09:10,166 --> 00:09:11,400 We're going to do what we're going to do, 235 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:12,833 and you're going to sign it or you're not going to sign it. 236 00:09:12,833 --> 00:09:16,966 And we don't really care all that much, does a 14, 237 00:09:16,966 --> 00:09:19,933 you know, 13, 14 point win matter to them? 238 00:09:19,933 --> 00:09:21,733 I think it does because I think the theory, 239 00:09:21,733 --> 00:09:22,133 as we were 240 00:09:22,933 --> 00:09:25,133 getting closer to the election and the and the, you know, the 241 00:09:25,333 --> 00:09:27,066 they felt like it was getting closer 242 00:09:27,066 --> 00:09:28,766 or the governor's race is getting closer. 243 00:09:28,766 --> 00:09:30,400 I know the House Republican Campaign 244 00:09:30,400 --> 00:09:32,900 Committee was worried about losing the Zionsville seat. 245 00:09:32,900 --> 00:09:34,100 The Carmel seat, you know, 246 00:09:35,366 --> 00:09:37,033 probably the Brownsburg, you know, the Browns were. 247 00:09:37,033 --> 00:09:38,133 Seeing that one still up 248 00:09:38,133 --> 00:09:39,966 and that one is still technically up in. The air. 249 00:09:39,966 --> 00:09:41,166 Six votes, I think. 250 00:09:41,166 --> 00:09:44,133 so there was an idea that if they front wins by four 251 00:09:44,133 --> 00:09:45,333 or 5 or 6 252 00:09:45,333 --> 00:09:45,900 and they bring in, 253 00:09:46,500 --> 00:09:47,766 they lose a supermajority, well, someone's going to like, 254 00:09:47,766 --> 00:09:48,966 they're not gonna be happy about that. 255 00:09:48,966 --> 00:09:49,333 And that's 256 00:09:50,066 --> 00:09:50,933 and that's going to translate to their willingness 257 00:09:50,933 --> 00:09:52,200 to go take on a big legislative agenda. 258 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:53,300 Well, of course none of that happened. 259 00:09:53,300 --> 00:09:55,433 He won by 14 points. 260 00:09:55,433 --> 00:09:58,033 Super majorities Becky Cash and 261 00:09:58,033 --> 00:10:01,766 Tiffany Stoner that that was an outstanding matter. 262 00:10:01,766 --> 00:10:02,700 Well, 263 00:10:02,700 --> 00:10:04,133 and a lot of what Mike Braun is already 264 00:10:04,133 --> 00:10:06,300 I mean, he's already engaged state agencies 265 00:10:06,300 --> 00:10:09,133 starting Wednesday, literally Wednesday to to analyze budgets, 266 00:10:09,133 --> 00:10:10,133 analyze personnel. 267 00:10:10,133 --> 00:10:11,933 What are they do you know, do a Swot analysis? 268 00:10:11,933 --> 00:10:14,966 I mean he's really like quickly taking a businessman approach 269 00:10:14,966 --> 00:10:16,866 to the administration of state government. 270 00:10:16,866 --> 00:10:17,300 But a lot of 271 00:10:17,533 --> 00:10:18,200 it's a lot of those changes 272 00:10:18,733 --> 00:10:21,200 if he wants to consolidate agencies or rearrange things, 273 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,266 which it sounds like 274 00:10:22,266 --> 00:10:24,533 has been part of the conversation, that's going to, 275 00:10:24,533 --> 00:10:25,900 well, that's going to go through the legislature. 276 00:10:25,900 --> 00:10:28,433 Those are statutorily created agencies largely. And so he's 277 00:10:28,433 --> 00:10:30,633 going to need some buy in from the legislature. 278 00:10:30,633 --> 00:10:31,666 But the legislature's also spent 279 00:10:31,666 --> 00:10:33,233 the last couple of years really taking a hard 280 00:10:33,233 --> 00:10:34,900 look at the organization of state government. 281 00:10:34,900 --> 00:10:36,233 What are these agencies doing? 282 00:10:36,233 --> 00:10:37,133 So there's a world where, 283 00:10:37,366 --> 00:10:40,133 like Mike Braun in the Chris Garten and Todd Houston, 284 00:10:40,133 --> 00:10:41,766 these guys that have been looking 285 00:10:41,766 --> 00:10:44,033 at the government that way could come together 286 00:10:44,033 --> 00:10:45,066 and go, no, you're right. 287 00:10:45,266 --> 00:10:48,166 Like we do need to reorganize and create efficiency for you. 288 00:10:48,166 --> 00:10:51,100 To that end, there's so much on the legislature's 289 00:10:51,100 --> 00:10:54,400 platter of opportunity, for the upcoming session. 290 00:10:54,666 --> 00:10:57,066 There's so much on the table, I mean, the budget. 291 00:10:57,066 --> 00:10:58,466 But then all of the things within the budget 292 00:10:58,466 --> 00:11:00,600 and all the things that cascade down from that, 293 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:03,966 the issues that they're trying to tackle does 294 00:11:04,533 --> 00:11:07,233 a kind of big reorganization of government fit into 295 00:11:07,233 --> 00:11:09,033 all of those other big plans? 296 00:11:11,533 --> 00:11:13,366 Maybe, but I think so. 297 00:11:13,366 --> 00:11:16,233 Here's something that I think is, is a little monkey wrench 298 00:11:16,233 --> 00:11:18,866 in all the plans, is that Lieutenant Governor 299 00:11:18,866 --> 00:11:20,000 Michael Beckwith. 300 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,466 So I'm curious to see how he fits in with everything, 301 00:11:23,666 --> 00:11:26,833 because I think even though start may be aligned for, 302 00:11:26,833 --> 00:11:29,700 a Braun in the legislature, 303 00:11:29,700 --> 00:11:33,333 we don't know what he's going to have to deal with internally 304 00:11:33,333 --> 00:11:34,533 when it comes to Beckwith. 305 00:11:34,533 --> 00:11:36,066 I think that's where his challenge is going to be. 306 00:11:36,066 --> 00:11:37,566 I don't think it's going to be the legislature, 307 00:11:37,566 --> 00:11:40,133 so I'm kind of excited to see how this plays out 308 00:11:40,133 --> 00:11:41,733 because I think it's going to be very interesting. 309 00:11:41,733 --> 00:11:42,000 Yeah. 310 00:11:42,600 --> 00:11:43,500 It's the biggest unanswered question 311 00:11:43,500 --> 00:11:46,366 about Mike Braun's gubernatorial term. 312 00:11:46,366 --> 00:11:48,100 What Mike, what role Michael Beckwith 313 00:11:48,100 --> 00:11:50,000 is going to play beyond the statutory one. 314 00:11:50,000 --> 00:11:51,933 Yeah, I would call it like one be 315 00:11:51,933 --> 00:11:52,566 you know, 316 00:11:52,566 --> 00:11:52,900 I mean, 317 00:11:53,700 --> 00:11:56,433 I think the legislature will probably be very supportive 318 00:11:56,433 --> 00:12:00,133 of a lot of the basic things, the two issues that I think 319 00:12:00,133 --> 00:12:03,266 might be more problematic for governor elect Braun 320 00:12:03,266 --> 00:12:05,366 are the two that he was most straighten about, 321 00:12:05,366 --> 00:12:08,400 which are property taxes and health care stuff. 322 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:09,666 I think they'll look 323 00:12:09,666 --> 00:12:13,100 for some smaller things, but not these massive overhauls 324 00:12:13,100 --> 00:12:14,933 that the Braun people 325 00:12:14,933 --> 00:12:17,000 would prefer on that I also want to know, 326 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:20,133 and of course, it's a 14 point, you know, win. 327 00:12:20,133 --> 00:12:20,966 It's big. 328 00:12:20,966 --> 00:12:22,500 But he would see fewer votes. 329 00:12:22,500 --> 00:12:24,333 And Eric Holcomb did right years ago. 330 00:12:24,333 --> 00:12:26,366 Guys that. Didn't help Eric. Holcomb. 331 00:12:26,366 --> 00:12:29,466 So yeah, they they have a really. 332 00:12:29,466 --> 00:12:30,500 I think it's approach. 333 00:12:30,500 --> 00:12:31,400 He's talked about his relationship 334 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:33,500 with the legislature, having been in the legislature 335 00:12:33,500 --> 00:12:34,233 only for one term. 336 00:12:34,233 --> 00:12:35,333 I want to ask I want to ask. 337 00:12:35,333 --> 00:12:37,000 A little line in the middle of the second. Term. 338 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:38,833 I want to ask a little bit more about this, 339 00:12:38,833 --> 00:12:40,166 which is I'll ask you about this, 340 00:12:40,166 --> 00:12:41,366 which is to those points, 341 00:12:41,366 --> 00:12:43,033 the two big things that clearly Braun 342 00:12:43,033 --> 00:12:45,900 is most focused on health care reform, property taxes. 343 00:12:45,900 --> 00:12:47,133 On the property tax side. 344 00:12:47,133 --> 00:12:50,300 Well, he had this relatively detailed plan. 345 00:12:50,300 --> 00:12:53,033 He also has said all along, listen, I'm 346 00:12:53,033 --> 00:12:54,466 just casting a vision. 347 00:12:54,466 --> 00:12:56,200 Lawmakers will work out the details. 348 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,966 So I mean, they're going to do something about property taxes. 349 00:12:58,966 --> 00:13:02,033 Is anything basically a win for Mike Braun in that sense? 350 00:13:02,366 --> 00:13:03,800 Well, he'll declare it. 351 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,100 So yeah. So I suppose you could do that. 352 00:13:06,100 --> 00:13:08,533 But the question is do the voters feel it 353 00:13:08,533 --> 00:13:11,600 and do the education or the educators feel it? 354 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:13,600 I mean, that's the biggest problem 355 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,166 with tackling the property taxes. 356 00:13:15,166 --> 00:13:16,800 I agree, they're too high. 357 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,533 And we supposedly had a solution from Mitch Daniels before. 358 00:13:19,533 --> 00:13:20,166 Remember, 359 00:13:20,166 --> 00:13:20,833 all we have to do is 360 00:13:21,100 --> 00:13:22,766 put the highest sales tax in the country 361 00:13:22,766 --> 00:13:26,033 in place and the property tax problem solve for good. 362 00:13:26,533 --> 00:13:29,333 Well, it was solve for about 16 years and it's back again. 363 00:13:30,433 --> 00:13:33,866 Mike Braun is clearly I think this is my perspective 364 00:13:33,866 --> 00:13:35,866 more passionate about health care reform. 365 00:13:35,866 --> 00:13:38,033 It's something he cared a lot about in this business. 366 00:13:38,033 --> 00:13:39,500 He talked about it in the legislature. 367 00:13:39,500 --> 00:13:41,233 He talked about it when he went ran for the Senate. 368 00:13:41,233 --> 00:13:43,066 He's talked about it throughout his time in the Senate. 369 00:13:43,066 --> 00:13:45,400 And now a lot as governor. 370 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:49,300 Is that arguably the harder battle, and will he be 371 00:13:49,966 --> 00:13:52,666 less willing to declare victory no matter what? 372 00:13:52,666 --> 00:13:53,666 Oh yeah, that's our battle. 373 00:13:53,666 --> 00:13:54,833 I mean, the legislature has been trying 374 00:13:54,833 --> 00:13:56,766 to tackle that for five, you know, last fight forever. 375 00:13:56,766 --> 00:13:59,233 But for the last five years, when it was discovered 376 00:13:59,233 --> 00:14:01,533 that we have some of the highest costs in the country. Right. 377 00:14:01,533 --> 00:14:05,033 and so they have been trying and made harder by the fact 378 00:14:05,033 --> 00:14:06,466 that state government and state legislatures 379 00:14:06,466 --> 00:14:08,800 don't control health care policy, most largely. 380 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:09,133 Yeah. 381 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:11,966 and so but he does have but he does understand. 382 00:14:11,966 --> 00:14:13,900 And you've seen at the statehouse last couple sessions, 383 00:14:13,900 --> 00:14:15,700 he does understand from his own experience 384 00:14:15,700 --> 00:14:17,800 that that is the number one concern of 385 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,000 in business right now. 386 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:20,700 It is their ability to sustain 387 00:14:20,700 --> 00:14:22,600 a workforce and a health care program. 388 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:24,566 And he tells a good story 389 00:14:24,566 --> 00:14:26,733 about what he did as a business owner to do that. 390 00:14:26,733 --> 00:14:28,500 And it's why you see the Manufacturers 391 00:14:28,500 --> 00:14:29,933 Association, the Chamber of Commerce. 392 00:14:29,933 --> 00:14:31,066 It's not the old stuff. 393 00:14:31,066 --> 00:14:31,966 It's not the drug companies 394 00:14:31,966 --> 00:14:33,300 and the insurance companies lobbying. 395 00:14:33,300 --> 00:14:35,633 It's statehouse on health care. It's the employers. Yeah. 396 00:14:35,633 --> 00:14:35,900 All right. 397 00:14:36,566 --> 00:14:37,733 Time now for viewer feedback. Each week 398 00:14:37,733 --> 00:14:40,400 we post an unscientific online poll question. 399 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,333 And this week's question is, does governor elect 400 00:14:42,333 --> 00:14:43,700 Mike Braun's margin of victory 401 00:14:43,700 --> 00:14:46,066 give him leverage with the legislature? 402 00:14:46,066 --> 00:14:47,800 A yes or B no? 403 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:49,333 Last week we asked you one last time 404 00:14:49,333 --> 00:14:50,800 who will win the race for governor? 405 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:52,133 The results weren't quite the same. 406 00:14:52,133 --> 00:14:56,166 22% said Mike Braun, 76% said Jennifer McCormick, 2% 407 00:14:56,166 --> 00:14:57,766 said Donald Rainwater. If you'd like 408 00:14:57,766 --> 00:15:01,100 to take part in the poll, go to fyi.org slash. 409 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:03,500 We're and look for the poll. 410 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,200 Well, Republican Todd Rokita says his victory in the race 411 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:08,233 for attorney general 412 00:15:08,233 --> 00:15:11,200 sent a clear message about what Hoosiers want. 413 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:14,233 Rokita easily won reelection this week, defeating Democrat 414 00:15:14,233 --> 00:15:17,233 Destiny Wells. 415 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:18,666 Speaking 416 00:15:19,366 --> 00:15:21,800 to a roomful of cheering supporters, Rokita says his win 417 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:25,600 was a rejection of what he views as far left extremism. 418 00:15:26,100 --> 00:15:30,266 I am grateful to have earned the votes and, more importantly, 419 00:15:30,666 --> 00:15:33,566 the trust of so many Hoosiers tonight. 420 00:15:33,566 --> 00:15:36,133 Rokita says his overwhelming victory will help him 421 00:15:36,133 --> 00:15:38,700 build on the work he's already done as attorney general. 422 00:15:38,700 --> 00:15:39,933 He emphasized his fight 423 00:15:39,933 --> 00:15:42,233 to protect Indiana's near-total abortion ban 424 00:15:42,233 --> 00:15:45,033 and continued attacks on transgender Hoosiers. 425 00:15:45,033 --> 00:15:47,633 Wells emphasized to her supporters 426 00:15:47,633 --> 00:15:49,666 that change is incremental. 427 00:15:49,666 --> 00:15:52,733 And it takes all of us and our sacrifice 428 00:15:52,733 --> 00:15:54,633 to wake up our neighbors 429 00:15:54,633 --> 00:15:57,533 and to let them see what is on the line. 430 00:15:57,533 --> 00:16:01,600 Democrats haven't won the race for attorney general since 1996. 431 00:16:03,066 --> 00:16:03,433 Niki, 432 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,566 how much of this victory was approval of Todd Rokita 433 00:16:06,566 --> 00:16:10,600 specifically versus just Republican voters 434 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,600 voting for a Republican, or even the Trump coattail effect? 435 00:16:14,433 --> 00:16:16,966 Yeah, I think it's I think it's probably the latter. 436 00:16:16,966 --> 00:16:18,366 I think the coattail effect, 437 00:16:18,366 --> 00:16:21,733 and we've always been able to look at attorney general 438 00:16:21,733 --> 00:16:24,100 and Secretary of state, you know, in the 439 00:16:24,100 --> 00:16:27,433 in the off years as the baseline for party voters. 440 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:31,300 So, I mean, he definitely did lose some votes 441 00:16:31,300 --> 00:16:34,133 from when you look at, you know, what 442 00:16:34,133 --> 00:16:35,833 Trump brought in, what Braun brought in 443 00:16:35,833 --> 00:16:37,066 and what banks brought in. 444 00:16:37,066 --> 00:16:41,266 So he definitely lost some due to, you know, his, 445 00:16:42,533 --> 00:16:45,333 you know, things he's gone after abortion doctors 446 00:16:45,333 --> 00:16:47,800 things like that. So that cost him some votes. 447 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:52,866 But in general that race just couldn't occupy people's space. 448 00:16:52,866 --> 00:16:53,133 You know, 449 00:16:53,466 --> 00:16:54,400 they were so much busier 450 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,933 with the top of the the top of the ticket. 451 00:16:56,933 --> 00:16:57,866 Rokita reportedly 452 00:16:57,866 --> 00:17:01,366 this week said, he has taken himself like he's 453 00:17:01,966 --> 00:17:03,500 his name is not on the list of people 454 00:17:03,500 --> 00:17:05,333 willing to serve in the Trump administration. 455 00:17:05,333 --> 00:17:07,900 He wants to focus. He wants to focus on Indiana. 456 00:17:07,900 --> 00:17:09,166 I mean, 457 00:17:09,166 --> 00:17:10,900 it is absolutely the sort of person 458 00:17:10,900 --> 00:17:13,566 that would make sense for a Trump administration. 459 00:17:13,566 --> 00:17:14,800 I, I, 460 00:17:14,800 --> 00:17:17,400 I don't mean that as derisively as you probably think of it. 461 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:22,066 And, but, are you surprised the Rokita is not wanting to to 462 00:17:22,400 --> 00:17:23,366 go to the federal level? 463 00:17:24,666 --> 00:17:26,800 That's the thing to say, right? 464 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:28,600 You say you want to stay here and you want to 465 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:29,900 hear all about Indiana, 466 00:17:29,900 --> 00:17:32,900 but when the offer comes, it's what you actually do. 467 00:17:33,466 --> 00:17:36,500 so I don't expect him to not say that. 468 00:17:36,500 --> 00:17:38,766 Well, we'll just see what actually happens, though, 469 00:17:38,766 --> 00:17:41,866 because I believe if he gets to offer, he will go. 470 00:17:41,866 --> 00:17:44,300 couldn't be that lucky. 471 00:17:44,300 --> 00:17:46,766 what do you think is what do you think Todd 472 00:17:46,766 --> 00:17:49,200 Rokita imagines for his future? Now? 473 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:50,333 I don't think he wants to be attorney general. 474 00:17:50,333 --> 00:17:52,700 He's not reading me in on that. 475 00:17:52,700 --> 00:17:54,066 You and I aren't chatting about that. 476 00:17:54,066 --> 00:17:55,466 So if you. 477 00:17:55,466 --> 00:17:56,066 Have if you look at 478 00:17:56,433 --> 00:17:58,466 what are the what are the next opportunities? 479 00:17:58,466 --> 00:18:00,666 U.S. Senate race in 28. 480 00:18:00,666 --> 00:18:03,666 Presumably Braun runs for reelection 2032. 481 00:18:03,666 --> 00:18:05,833 Maybe your your next, 482 00:18:05,833 --> 00:18:08,866 gubernatorial gubernatorial opportunity an open seat. 483 00:18:09,366 --> 00:18:10,933 I think he's smart to run for attorney. 484 00:18:10,933 --> 00:18:12,133 You know, run for reelection 485 00:18:12,133 --> 00:18:13,566 for attorney general to stay in the mix. 486 00:18:14,966 --> 00:18:15,833 and that's what I'm like. 487 00:18:15,833 --> 00:18:18,466 And unlike the other, statewide offices, 488 00:18:18,466 --> 00:18:21,133 you can stay in attorney general for as long as they they keep. 489 00:18:21,133 --> 00:18:22,100 reelecting. 490 00:18:22,100 --> 00:18:24,600 You, As a person that. 491 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:26,400 do you 492 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,533 presumably Braun runs for reelection. 493 00:18:28,533 --> 00:18:30,833 Do you presume Mike Braun is for reelection? 494 00:18:30,833 --> 00:18:31,433 No, I don't 495 00:18:31,633 --> 00:18:33,100 I mean, his track record has been 496 00:18:33,100 --> 00:18:35,533 he didn't finish his term in the legislature. 497 00:18:35,533 --> 00:18:37,666 He ran one time from for Senate. 498 00:18:37,666 --> 00:18:40,066 He's the oldest governor ever elected. 499 00:18:40,066 --> 00:18:41,600 No, I see him as one term. 500 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,933 And I think that's what Rokita has his eye on. 501 00:18:43,933 --> 00:18:45,933 And this is all about the Trump wave. 502 00:18:45,933 --> 00:18:48,133 I mean, if you could have put him up 503 00:18:48,133 --> 00:18:51,033 just like the abortion question up by itself, 504 00:18:51,033 --> 00:18:53,866 he would have lost because he's been a disgrace to the state. 505 00:18:53,866 --> 00:18:55,800 The really serious who though, like 506 00:18:55,800 --> 00:18:58,633 you threw a lot of mud at Diego and it didn't work. 507 00:18:58,633 --> 00:18:59,800 This was a little more well-funded 508 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,933 than the race against year, but but it's very it's 509 00:19:02,933 --> 00:19:04,933 it's buried in this. Buried. It's buried. 510 00:19:04,933 --> 00:19:06,300 But the Secretary of state said it wasn't. 511 00:19:06,300 --> 00:19:08,733 Now let's see what happens. The next secretary of state. 512 00:19:08,733 --> 00:19:09,233 Yeah. That's true. 513 00:19:09,966 --> 00:19:11,666 When there won't be anything above the ticket on exact right. 514 00:19:11,666 --> 00:19:13,700 Because there's no Senate race in 26. 515 00:19:13,700 --> 00:19:14,033 All right, well, 516 00:19:14,566 --> 00:19:15,400 the Indiana House and Senate appear 517 00:19:15,833 --> 00:19:18,433 headed for the status quo after this year's election results, 518 00:19:18,433 --> 00:19:20,400 with Republicans maintaining the super 519 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:21,966 majorities in both chambers. 520 00:19:23,700 --> 00:19:26,100 The Senate headed into the 2024 elections, 521 00:19:26,100 --> 00:19:29,133 split 40-10 between Republicans and Democrats. 522 00:19:29,133 --> 00:19:31,366 Half the chamber was up for election this year, 523 00:19:31,366 --> 00:19:33,866 and none of those seats changed. Political hands. 524 00:19:33,866 --> 00:19:35,766 There will be two new members of the Senate. 525 00:19:35,766 --> 00:19:38,400 One Democrat lost reelection in the primary, 526 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:41,400 and one Republican incumbent opted not to run again. 527 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,766 The House had been split 70-30 the last two years, 528 00:19:44,766 --> 00:19:46,800 and unofficial county results have it headed 529 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,033 for the same balance for the next two. 530 00:19:49,033 --> 00:19:51,133 Democrats had been targeting a few seats, 531 00:19:51,133 --> 00:19:54,266 particularly in suburbs around Indianapolis, hoping to flip 532 00:19:54,266 --> 00:19:57,300 for and break the GOP supermajority. 533 00:19:57,300 --> 00:19:59,333 But a good night for Republicans statewide 534 00:19:59,333 --> 00:20:02,333 helped ensure the supermajority will remain. 535 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:07,733 Oseye, given the Trump wave and all of that. 536 00:20:07,733 --> 00:20:10,966 Are you surprised the state of races appeared so unchanged? 537 00:20:10,966 --> 00:20:12,533 No, not at all. 538 00:20:12,533 --> 00:20:13,466 Not at all. 539 00:20:13,466 --> 00:20:15,266 What's been a supermajority of Republicans 540 00:20:15,266 --> 00:20:19,333 now in the House for, what, seven seven election cycles now? 541 00:20:19,933 --> 00:20:22,033 yeah, something like that. Yeah. Since 2012. 542 00:20:23,233 --> 00:20:24,333 So no, I'm not surprised. 543 00:20:24,333 --> 00:20:25,600 I mean, we look at our state. 544 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:28,400 Our state is very, very red with pockets of blue. 545 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:30,366 Just what. For a. 546 00:20:30,366 --> 00:20:30,766 Yeah. 547 00:20:30,766 --> 00:20:31,333 Well, I don't. 548 00:20:31,700 --> 00:20:33,600 Know if you look at what's election day. 549 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,800 Even pretty close to the. Trump. 550 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,000 Well, even but even I think even without the, the districts 551 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:41,300 or redistricting as it, as it is, 552 00:20:41,300 --> 00:20:42,900 I think the state is still pretty red. 553 00:20:42,900 --> 00:20:46,866 Democrats need to really convince people 554 00:20:46,866 --> 00:20:49,666 to get out and vote. Our voter turnout is abysmal, right? 555 00:20:49,666 --> 00:20:52,033 but on the flip side, if more people 556 00:20:52,033 --> 00:20:53,466 come out and vote, what does that mean? 557 00:20:53,466 --> 00:20:55,233 They will vote for Democrats? 558 00:20:55,233 --> 00:20:55,933 Maybe not. 559 00:20:55,933 --> 00:20:57,633 Maybe our state still stays red. 560 00:20:57,633 --> 00:21:00,200 But, we we do need to get more people to vote. 561 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:01,933 I think that's our biggest issue. 562 00:21:01,933 --> 00:21:06,000 And that could actually flip the, legislature. 563 00:21:06,233 --> 00:21:07,700 That's why not change the rules. 564 00:21:07,700 --> 00:21:09,966 Not a single that's not only Donald Trump. 565 00:21:09,966 --> 00:21:12,033 You know, we didn't win, so we got cheated. 566 00:21:12,033 --> 00:21:14,066 Last. Night voting. Yeah, I think 567 00:21:15,133 --> 00:21:18,633 so. Most gerrymandered state in the country. 568 00:21:18,633 --> 00:21:20,533 I think I think straight ticket 569 00:21:20,533 --> 00:21:23,700 I think specifically voting does make a difference. 570 00:21:23,700 --> 00:21:24,466 We'll see. 571 00:21:24,766 --> 00:21:27,500 We'll see if all of the seats remain UN flipped 572 00:21:27,500 --> 00:21:31,000 because there is that, Brownsburg area seat, 573 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,833 which I believe last I checked was a 66 vote difference. 574 00:21:34,833 --> 00:21:37,366 That's well within the margin that a recount could change. 575 00:21:37,366 --> 00:21:40,366 Or even if absentee ballots are still being counted. 576 00:21:40,933 --> 00:21:43,566 but let's assume it stays where it is. 577 00:21:43,566 --> 00:21:47,533 Are you surprised that not a single seat flipped 20? 578 00:21:47,800 --> 00:21:50,233 I maybe thought 1 or 2 would flip. 579 00:21:50,233 --> 00:21:53,400 But but I mean, okay, 20 points, but how about the other way? 580 00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,066 But but how about the other way? 581 00:21:55,066 --> 00:21:57,800 So a Democrat didn't lose a single seat, you know, a 582 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,400 seat on the on the river, which is. 583 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,600 So they ran they the Republicans ran a candidate 584 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:05,766 who took money from a criminal and wouldn't give it back. 585 00:22:05,766 --> 00:22:07,800 Okay. That's true. That may have. 586 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:08,533 Had some. 587 00:22:08,900 --> 00:22:10,533 Impact, but I mean, are you a little surprised that, 588 00:22:10,533 --> 00:22:11,733 I mean, literally nothing. 589 00:22:11,733 --> 00:22:14,133 We had good. Candidates. You had great candidates. 590 00:22:16,033 --> 00:22:16,633 The 20 point. 591 00:22:17,300 --> 00:22:18,600 If you don't know the 20 point, well, even with the 20 point, 592 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:19,666 when you look at like 593 00:22:19,666 --> 00:22:22,566 look at the Danny Lopez district, Trump lost that. 594 00:22:22,566 --> 00:22:24,400 Jennifer McCormick won that district. 595 00:22:24,400 --> 00:22:25,566 He won by eight. 596 00:22:25,566 --> 00:22:28,000 That's that's a sign of a strength of a candidate. 597 00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,633 And that he was a. 598 00:22:29,633 --> 00:22:32,000 Very good candidate. He was I don't disagree with that. 599 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,066 So was Danny Lopez. 600 00:22:33,066 --> 00:22:35,100 As for that district, he is he's a Republican 601 00:22:35,100 --> 00:22:37,033 who fits that that district. 602 00:22:37,033 --> 00:22:39,633 See how he votes when he's in that super majority. 603 00:22:39,633 --> 00:22:42,700 Well, I mean, but Jerry did that for how many years that voted 604 00:22:42,700 --> 00:22:44,433 the way I think that. 605 00:22:44,433 --> 00:22:45,566 We'll talk about. 606 00:22:45,566 --> 00:22:45,700 What's. 607 00:22:46,566 --> 00:22:47,300 Happened in that district is what Democrats 608 00:22:47,566 --> 00:22:49,400 have suggested for years, which is moderate. 609 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:51,700 Republicans are willing to vote Democratic. 610 00:22:51,700 --> 00:22:52,133 Clearly, it's 611 00:22:52,900 --> 00:22:55,766 a majority Democrat vote, and that except for Danny Lopez. 612 00:22:56,300 --> 00:22:57,333 are we going to start to see 613 00:22:57,333 --> 00:23:00,200 some of that trickle down to the city level in? 614 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,433 I mean, we we've talked about the purple 615 00:23:02,433 --> 00:23:03,966 wing of Hamilton County for a long time. 616 00:23:03,966 --> 00:23:04,800 We're not seeing it 617 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:07,500 too much at the state level. And the, the, the, 618 00:23:07,500 --> 00:23:09,733 the top of the ticket races notwithstanding. 619 00:23:09,733 --> 00:23:10,766 Are you going to start to see it 620 00:23:10,766 --> 00:23:12,700 trickle down more into the municipal level? 621 00:23:12,700 --> 00:23:14,500 Is that where it's really going to start? 622 00:23:14,500 --> 00:23:15,600 We've seen it. 623 00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:16,533 Go to go to. 624 00:23:16,533 --> 00:23:20,200 Go purple as opposed to ro or B or in blue. 625 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,300 Yeah. But we're going to start seeing. Are we. 626 00:23:22,300 --> 00:23:24,366 Yeah that's true. And then flip. Right. 627 00:23:24,366 --> 00:23:26,066 But are we going to see Democrats start 628 00:23:26,066 --> 00:23:27,766 winning more at the local level in those areas. 629 00:23:27,766 --> 00:23:30,400 Or is it just kind of baked in the way it's always been? 630 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,500 you're going to have redistricting again. 631 00:23:32,500 --> 00:23:33,000 Okay. 632 00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:35,266 And I don't know whether that changes. 633 00:23:35,266 --> 00:23:36,800 I don't know if we'll ever get to the point 634 00:23:36,800 --> 00:23:38,633 where we have redistricting by commission. 635 00:23:38,633 --> 00:23:40,166 I don't know, we'll forever get to the point 636 00:23:40,166 --> 00:23:41,933 where we don't have straight party voting. 637 00:23:41,933 --> 00:23:42,533 I, you know, 638 00:23:43,066 --> 00:23:46,733 and those two things contribute to whether it stays red 639 00:23:46,733 --> 00:23:49,600 or blue. It does. It mixes. You have. To. 640 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:50,433 When you redistrict. 641 00:23:50,633 --> 00:23:52,033 In order to make some of those seats competitive, 642 00:23:52,033 --> 00:23:53,366 you have to go crack urban centers. 643 00:23:53,366 --> 00:23:56,400 If you look at the map, the blue areas are urban cores. 644 00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:57,666 You have to go break those 645 00:23:57,666 --> 00:24:00,400 and send those voters into suburban areas. 646 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:03,066 That's gerrymandering. And it's not what we did. 647 00:24:03,066 --> 00:24:05,233 Yeah, no, you kept them all together. 648 00:24:05,233 --> 00:24:07,733 And the other none other other other than perhaps. 649 00:24:07,733 --> 00:24:08,833 It would go outside. 650 00:24:08,833 --> 00:24:11,633 Other other than perhaps the Senate in Fort Wayne. 651 00:24:11,633 --> 00:24:14,366 Fort Wayne. That that's that's. Right. 652 00:24:14,366 --> 00:24:17,066 So can't tie Hamilton County and lose 85 counties. 653 00:24:17,066 --> 00:24:19,300 You just can't do it. And once. Wednesday. All right. 654 00:24:19,300 --> 00:24:20,200 Finally, at the Allen 655 00:24:20,433 --> 00:24:23,233 County GOP election night party, a local Fort Wayne band 656 00:24:23,233 --> 00:24:24,933 reportedly performed a cover of Cool 657 00:24:24,933 --> 00:24:26,133 the Gang song Ladies 658 00:24:26,133 --> 00:24:29,766 Night and changed the lyrics to make it Jim Banks night. 659 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:32,666 Mike O'Brien. Is this funny or cringe? 660 00:24:32,666 --> 00:24:34,000 It's as cool as Republicans get. 661 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,300 I think that's the best. Can we can 662 00:24:37,300 --> 00:24:40,300 you do you like that we should be changing and changing. 663 00:24:40,300 --> 00:24:42,333 So fringy is is that where we're at? 664 00:24:42,333 --> 00:24:46,033 Is the ladies night Jim Banks and so sense there's dancing. 665 00:24:46,033 --> 00:24:48,366 If it was if the song was just playing that's one thing. 666 00:24:48,366 --> 00:24:50,400 If there was. There was dancing. That's a little different. 667 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,866 Square dancing probably. That's extra cringe. 668 00:24:52,866 --> 00:24:55,700 A what do you make of Jim Banks not being down 669 00:24:55,700 --> 00:24:56,833 with the rest of the Republican Party 670 00:24:56,833 --> 00:24:59,166 in Indy on election night? Is that just a local? 671 00:24:59,166 --> 00:25:00,400 I wanted to be surprised. 672 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,500 He's always been very, focused on that corner of the area, 673 00:25:04,500 --> 00:25:08,133 you know, of the state and, you know, his family's there. 674 00:25:08,133 --> 00:25:09,433 I think he wanted his parents 675 00:25:09,433 --> 00:25:11,166 and his grandparents and things like that. 676 00:25:11,166 --> 00:25:12,533 And it would have been harder to bring them. 677 00:25:12,533 --> 00:25:14,033 To bring them all down. Yeah, that makes sense. 678 00:25:14,033 --> 00:25:15,800 And I talked to Jim Banks this week. 679 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:17,300 We will talk more about that 680 00:25:17,300 --> 00:25:20,100 and sort of the path he's charting for himself next week. 681 00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:23,033 But that is Indiana Week in Review for this week. 682 00:25:23,033 --> 00:25:26,033 Our panel is Democrat Ann DeLaney. 683 00:25:26,500 --> 00:25:30,533 Republican Mike O'Brien, Oseye Boyd of Mirror Indy 684 00:25:31,133 --> 00:25:34,133 and Niki Kelly of the Indiana Capital Chronicle. 685 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,600 You can find Indiana Week In Reviews podcasts 686 00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:41,800 and episodes at wfyi.org/iwir or on the PBS app. 687 00:25:42,133 --> 00:25:44,700 I'm Brandon Smith of Indiana Public Broadcasting. 688 00:25:44,700 --> 00:25:48,366 Join us next time because a lot can happen in an Indiana week. 689 00:26:31,766 --> 00:26:35,100 The opinions expressed are solely those of the panelists. 690 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:38,666 Indiana Week in Review was a wfyi production 691 00:26:38,666 --> 00:26:42,000 in association with Indiana's public broadcasting stations.