WEBVTT 00:03.233 --> 00:07.600 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% - [Keith] Dear Ani, if you're reading this, it's a miracle. 00:07.600 --> 00:09.900 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% But those happen all the time. 00:09.900 --> 00:11.566 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% (intense music) 00:11.566 --> 00:14.933 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% - [Speaker] Any memories, impressions, feelings, 00:14.933 --> 00:19.766 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% thoughts about this guy, Keith Wasserman. 00:19.766 --> 00:21.166 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% - Hi. 00:21.166 --> 00:22.633 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5% I'm Keith. 00:22.633 --> 00:24.300 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% - [Jerry] I never, in all my years working with artists 00:24.300 --> 00:26.266 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% have ever heard a story like this. 00:26.266 --> 00:31.266 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% - [Keith] From theater in a space to theater in the world. 00:33.566 --> 00:34.933 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% This is my- 00:34.933 --> 00:35.900 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% - [Director] Recording. 00:35.900 --> 00:36.900 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% - [Keith] True story. 00:37.800 --> 00:38.833 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% - [Audio] Is it that? 00:38.833 --> 00:40.000 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% Is it that? 00:40.000 --> 00:41.266 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% Is it that? 00:41.266 --> 00:44.466 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% ♪ I hope you like it 00:44.466 --> 00:46.400 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (gentle music) 00:46.400 --> 00:47.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% - When I was a college student, 00:47.766 --> 00:49.933 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% my professor put a book in my hands, 00:49.933 --> 00:52.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and the book was called "Letters to a Young Poet" 00:52.266 --> 00:53.466 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% by Rainer Maria Rilke. 00:54.933 --> 00:57.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And in the book, he talks about the need to be in isolation 00:57.766 --> 00:59.266 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% and get really still 00:59.266 --> 01:03.166 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% so that you can fully know yourself and become an artist. 01:03.166 --> 01:06.166 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% And so I decided to take a semester off from college, 01:06.166 --> 01:10.466 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and move up to a cabin by a lake in Northern Maine, 01:10.466 --> 01:14.333 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and try to find my voice and write my great novel. 01:15.533 --> 01:19.233 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Of course, when I got up there, totally froze. 01:19.233 --> 01:21.466 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% What story do I have to tell? 01:21.466 --> 01:22.700 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% And rather than writing, 01:22.700 --> 01:24.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% every day I would go to the edge of the lake, 01:24.733 --> 01:26.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and I would sit in this folding lawn chair, 01:26.566 --> 01:28.200 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and I would stare out over the water, 01:28.200 --> 01:31.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and I would say to the universe, 01:31.200 --> 01:35.500 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% "I believe in your magic and your majesty. 01:35.500 --> 01:37.733 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% Just show me a sign. 01:38.666 --> 01:41.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Send me a story worth telling." 01:42.966 --> 01:47.366 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% A few days after that, I got a package in the mail 01:47.366 --> 01:49.066 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% from this person whom 01:49.066 --> 01:51.366 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% I really was no more than an acquaintance with. 01:52.700 --> 01:56.366 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% And in the package was a mix tape of Ani DiFranco, 01:57.500 --> 02:00.466 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% a name I had literally never heard of. 02:00.466 --> 02:02.200 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (light music) 02:02.200 --> 02:06.866 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Suffice it to say, this tape changed the course of my life. 02:08.100 --> 02:10.233 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% (dramatic music) 02:10.233 --> 02:11.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% - I'm Kurt Loder with MTV News, 02:11.566 --> 02:13.700 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% New York singer and songwriter Ani DiFranco says 02:13.700 --> 02:15.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% record companies have been nipping at her heels 02:15.433 --> 02:16.700 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% for years now, 02:16.700 --> 02:18.300 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% but she's still happy right where she is 02:18.300 --> 02:20.133 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% on Righteous Babe Records, 02:20.133 --> 02:21.733 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% the little label she started on her own 02:21.733 --> 02:23.233 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% when she was 18-years-old. 02:23.233 --> 02:25.633 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Unencumbered by producers and publicists, 02:25.633 --> 02:28.733 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% DiFranco gets to be her folk, punky, bisexual self on record 02:28.733 --> 02:30.233 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and to communicate with her fans, 02:30.233 --> 02:32.733 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% of whom there are a growing and devoted number, directly. 02:32.733 --> 02:34.766 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% - So I immediately jump in the car, 02:34.766 --> 02:36.700 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% throw the tape in the cassette player, 02:36.700 --> 02:40.733 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and head off into the windy roads of Northern Maine, 02:40.733 --> 02:43.233 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% beautiful fall foliage all around. 02:43.233 --> 02:45.133 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% And I'm listening to the tape. 02:45.133 --> 02:48.466 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% (Keith imitating music) 02:50.566 --> 02:52.466 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% It was the song "Asking Too Much." 02:53.733 --> 02:56.400 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% ♪ I want somebody who sees the pointlessness ♪ 02:56.400 --> 02:59.533 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% ♪ And still keeps their purpose in mind ♪ 02:59.533 --> 03:03.100 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% ♪ I want somebody who has a tortured soul ♪ 03:03.100 --> 03:05.666 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% ♪ Some of the time 03:05.666 --> 03:08.966 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% ♪ I want somebody who will either put out for me ♪ 03:08.966 --> 03:11.666 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% ♪ Or put me outta my misery 03:11.666 --> 03:14.366 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% ♪ Or maybe just put it all the words and make me go ♪ 03:14.366 --> 03:17.366 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% ♪ You know, I never heard it put that way ♪ 03:17.366 --> 03:21.533 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% ♪ Make me go, what did you just say ♪ 03:21.533 --> 03:24.133 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% - And I heard that song, 03:24.133 --> 03:25.000 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% and I thought, 03:26.966 --> 03:30.000 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% okay, I can do that. 03:32.133 --> 03:34.966 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And I wrote a 14=page letter to Ani DiFranco 03:34.966 --> 03:37.166 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% about the nature of cosmic coincidence, 03:37.166 --> 03:39.466 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and suggested that we become pen pals. 03:40.666 --> 03:44.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Two months later, on the day before I left Maine 03:44.133 --> 03:47.033 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% to return to New York City and go back to my life, 03:47.033 --> 03:50.000 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% when I went to return the PO Box key to the mail, 03:50.000 --> 03:54.766 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% to the post office, I got my last piece of mail, 03:54.766 --> 03:57.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% a Green Seasons greeting holiday postcard 03:57.200 --> 04:01.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% from Ani DiFranco with five words written on it. 04:03.266 --> 04:05.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% "Stay the (beeps) away from me." 04:05.433 --> 04:08.200 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% (Keith laughing) 04:10.866 --> 04:12.200 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% And that's it. 04:12.200 --> 04:13.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Let's just like let that linger. 04:13.200 --> 04:14.600 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% Oh my God, what did it say? 04:14.600 --> 04:16.766 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% What did it say, right? 04:16.766 --> 04:18.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - [Director] Okay, well, why don't you do a version 04:18.366 --> 04:20.033 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% where you actually say what the letter said. 04:20.033 --> 04:22.400 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% - Well, the thing is that what it said was, 04:22.400 --> 04:25.733 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% "Thanks for thinking, the world is a lot." 04:25.733 --> 04:30.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Which was a line from the letter buried deep on page eight. 04:32.366 --> 04:36.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% So I knew she read it, and it was game on. 04:37.500 --> 04:38.866 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% Two days after Christmas, 04:38.866 --> 04:41.200 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% I got on a Greyhound bus headed for New York City. 04:41.200 --> 04:42.533 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (light music) 04:42.533 --> 04:44.766 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And New York City has such an energy and a pace, 04:44.766 --> 04:48.100 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and I had been sitting still for so long 04:48.100 --> 04:52.000 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% that it was like energy just started pouring out of me. 04:53.200 --> 04:57.533 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% At that point, I hadn't slept in about two days. 04:57.533 --> 04:59.366 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% While I was living in Maine, 04:59.366 --> 05:02.933 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% I was reading a lot of books about mysticism and shamanism, 05:02.933 --> 05:06.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and the whole idea of having a vision quest 05:06.433 --> 05:10.433 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% in which you return from the wilderness 05:10.433 --> 05:15.433 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% with the magical elixir to share with the community. 05:16.800 --> 05:20.333 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% And when that happens, the community throws you a party 05:20.333 --> 05:22.266 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% to celebrate your return, 05:22.266 --> 05:25.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% to honor the fact that the boy has become a man, 05:25.100 --> 05:27.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% that you've tackled your demons, 05:27.100 --> 05:29.800 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% and you've chased your bliss, 05:29.800 --> 05:32.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and you have emerged successful. 05:32.933 --> 05:35.633 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% And as I began to experience 05:36.933 --> 05:41.233 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% this manic psychotic episode as a vision quest, 05:41.233 --> 05:42.833 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% I was looking for the party. 05:44.666 --> 05:46.466 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% Where was I gonna end up? 05:46.466 --> 05:47.766 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Who was gonna be there? 05:47.766 --> 05:48.833 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Was Ani gonna be there? 05:48.833 --> 05:50.266 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Were my parents invited? 05:51.766 --> 05:55.266 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% But I was looking for the party everywhere I went. 05:55.266 --> 05:56.900 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% And everywhere I went, 05:56.900 --> 05:58.833 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% I felt like I was getting closer to it. 06:00.066 --> 06:02.333 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And with all of this fervor and energy, 06:02.333 --> 06:05.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I started walking up the avenue looking for this party. 06:05.800 --> 06:08.666 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% I remember seeing somebody with a guitar 06:08.666 --> 06:10.566 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% walking into an apartment building. 06:10.566 --> 06:12.666 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Ooh, well, that must be where the party is. 06:12.666 --> 06:13.833 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% The next thing I know, 06:15.233 --> 06:18.333 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% the very nice doorman is tapping me on the shoulder. 06:19.366 --> 06:23.033 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% Apparently I'm scaring the people 06:23.033 --> 06:24.833 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% who live in the apartment building, 06:24.833 --> 06:26.200 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% and he's been getting calls 06:26.200 --> 06:29.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% that there's a young man crawling on his hands and knees, 06:29.500 --> 06:33.533 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% listening under the door of people's apartments for music, 06:33.533 --> 06:35.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% all while laughing hysterically 06:35.733 --> 06:38.333 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% and singing songs to himself. 06:38.333 --> 06:41.200 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% So the police come and say to me, 06:41.200 --> 06:42.700 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% "Do you think you want to come with us?" 06:42.700 --> 06:44.500 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% It's like, "Listen, if you guys want me to come with you, 06:44.500 --> 06:45.866 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% I'll come with you, 06:45.866 --> 06:48.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% but I don't know if I should come with you. 06:48.166 --> 06:50.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% But if you tell me I should, then I will." 06:50.900 --> 06:53.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% The officers put me in the back of their cruiser, 06:53.333 --> 06:57.833 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and I pass by the sign Bellevue Hospital. 06:59.000 --> 07:02.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% What do you suppose is the name of the street 07:02.800 --> 07:04.133 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% that I grew up on? 07:05.466 --> 07:06.566 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% Bellevue Road. 07:06.566 --> 07:09.866 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% So when I saw Bellevue, I thought, 07:09.866 --> 07:12.766 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% oh my gosh, I'm going home. 07:12.766 --> 07:14.566 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% I jump out of the car 07:14.566 --> 07:16.866 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and run straight into the emergency room, 07:18.400 --> 07:22.233 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% where I would sign myself in under a fake name. 07:23.300 --> 07:24.733 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% They put me in a room, 07:24.733 --> 07:28.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and I remember getting up onto the bed 07:28.800 --> 07:33.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and slipping my hands into the restraint cuffs. 07:36.866 --> 07:41.866 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% It's in that moment that I realize, this is my story. 07:47.633 --> 07:51.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Sort of five years until my next manic episode, 07:51.366 --> 07:53.400 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% when the album To The Teeth came out. 07:54.400 --> 07:57.233 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% It was about 96 hours since I slept, 07:57.233 --> 08:00.133 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and I was listening to the record for the 50th time, 08:01.133 --> 08:02.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% but this time there was a line. 08:04.666 --> 08:07.500 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% "And the angels were on hand to stand in for everything." 08:08.800 --> 08:10.833 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And I remembered that there was this whole riff 08:10.833 --> 08:12.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% in the letter that I had sent her five years ago 08:12.966 --> 08:15.300 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% about angels. 08:15.300 --> 08:18.966 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And all of a sudden I started to hear reference 08:18.966 --> 08:23.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% after reference in her music to my letter. 08:24.700 --> 08:26.833 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% And I thought, holy (beeps). 08:28.033 --> 08:31.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Has Ani DiFranco been trying to write back? 08:32.633 --> 08:35.133 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% - He's a musician slash, 08:35.133 --> 08:37.766 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% as I soon found out, Renaissance man. 08:37.766 --> 08:40.133 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% And this guy, not only is he talent, 08:40.133 --> 08:42.533 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% but he is out there. 08:42.533 --> 08:43.933 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5% - You dog. 08:43.933 --> 08:46.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% - [Jerry] He's so out there that he's delusional. 08:46.800 --> 08:48.600 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% - I believed Ani was writing to me 08:48.600 --> 08:50.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% through the lyrics of her songs, 08:50.333 --> 08:53.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and I responded in kind by sending her music 08:53.433 --> 08:55.500 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% and elaborate packages of art mail. 08:55.500 --> 08:58.966 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% - [Jerry] It's not normal to spend, 08:58.966 --> 09:03.600 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% you know, weeks and weeks, hours and hours, 09:03.600 --> 09:08.500 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% creating a package of layered, 09:08.500 --> 09:13.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% interactive mixed media CD's based on her songs. 09:16.700 --> 09:19.266 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% And, you know, I'm sitting there, I'm thinking, 09:20.433 --> 09:22.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I've never experienced anybody like this. 09:22.366 --> 09:27.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% This guy's passion went beyond anybody I've ever met 09:28.733 --> 09:33.033 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% in terms of trying to reach out to this famous musician 09:34.400 --> 09:39.100 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% in a way that was completely from the heart, mind, soul, 09:39.933 --> 09:43.200 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% that became like his muse. 09:43.200 --> 09:46.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And he had this belief that she was talking 09:46.700 --> 09:51.700 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and writing lyrics to him based on his amazing gifts. 09:55.166 --> 09:57.533 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% Staying up for days at a time, 09:57.533 --> 10:01.600 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% kind of cathartic creativity that 10:01.600 --> 10:05.200 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% his brain would not let him relax. 10:05.200 --> 10:07.933 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% What was the end game of this? 10:09.833 --> 10:13.033 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% - In 2010, as I was drawing out in the hospital 10:13.033 --> 10:15.700 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% from my recent manic psychotic episode, 10:15.700 --> 10:17.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% whether it's a good idea or not, 10:17.200 --> 10:19.933 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% I was listening to a lot of Ani DiFranco. 10:19.933 --> 10:21.200 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (Keith laughs) 10:21.200 --> 10:23.533 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And one of her lyrics caught my attention, 10:23.533 --> 10:27.033 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% the one that goes, "People used to make records, 10:27.033 --> 10:29.000 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% as in a record of an event, 10:29.000 --> 10:32.566 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% the event of people making music in a room." 10:32.566 --> 10:35.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And I thought that would be a cool thing to do. 10:37.166 --> 10:39.500 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Up to this point, she's only heard songs 10:39.500 --> 10:41.533 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% with my voice and a guitar, 10:41.533 --> 10:43.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and she's never really seen me. 10:43.333 --> 10:45.533 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% What if I were to put a band together 10:45.533 --> 10:50.533 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and record a film in one take to make music your room? 10:52.833 --> 10:56.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% ♪ I wanna get inside your head 10:56.900 --> 11:01.266 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% ♪ To understand your heart 11:01.266 --> 11:05.133 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% ♪ I wanna make you pick your skin ♪ 11:05.133 --> 11:08.933 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% ♪ And tear your flesh apart 11:08.933 --> 11:13.933 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% - He has this magnetic pull through his personality. 11:14.766 --> 11:16.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% - Keith has this unique ability 11:16.266 --> 11:18.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% to get you to work on a project 11:18.066 --> 11:20.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% when you really don't even know the purpose of the project. 11:20.900 --> 11:22.100 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% ♪ Down here in the- 11:22.100 --> 11:23.566 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% - I think with the see through film, 11:23.566 --> 11:27.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% it wasn't until I saw the box that I really understood 11:27.166 --> 11:28.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% what the intention was. 11:28.600 --> 11:31.133 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% - It was the size of a cigar box, 11:31.133 --> 11:33.600 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% but designed to look like a novel. 11:33.600 --> 11:36.800 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% There was a lock on the box, 11:36.800 --> 11:41.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and the key to the lock was hidden in a sleeve 11:41.666 --> 11:45.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% that you had to discover by following a twine 11:45.966 --> 11:47.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% that was wrapped around. 11:47.566 --> 11:51.633 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% When you finally get there and you open up the box, 11:51.633 --> 11:54.266 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% it has a false bottom. 11:54.266 --> 11:58.633 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% You actually have to lift up the bottom of the box 11:58.633 --> 12:00.166 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% to discover what's inside. 12:00.166 --> 12:03.833 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% And when you do, it's a DVD. 12:03.833 --> 12:05.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% - I remember looking at that box 12:05.066 --> 12:08.533 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and realizing that this was all for Ani. 12:08.533 --> 12:11.066 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% This was all for an audience of one. 12:11.066 --> 12:13.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I was never gonna get to see her reaction. 12:13.500 --> 12:17.000 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% I was never gonna even know if she ever watched it. 12:17.966 --> 12:19.066 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% And Keith didn't care. 12:20.066 --> 12:20.900 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% It didn't matter. 12:23.533 --> 12:26.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - In 2012, Ani DiFranco was coming to Boston 12:26.166 --> 12:28.300 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% to play a show at the Orpheum Theater. 12:28.300 --> 12:30.966 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (bubbly music) 12:30.966 --> 12:35.900 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Because of some random lyric of hers, 12:35.900 --> 12:38.833 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% I thought that the appropriate time to show up 12:38.833 --> 12:40.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% would be five o'clock in the morning. 12:41.966 --> 12:45.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Of course, the moment you approach the tour bus 12:45.200 --> 12:49.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% at five o'clock in the mornings idling behind the theater, 12:49.166 --> 12:53.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% you think to yourself, what the am I doing here? 12:53.000 --> 12:54.566 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% (Keith laughs) This is ridiculous. 12:54.566 --> 12:57.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% What am I hoping to accomplish? 12:57.000 --> 12:59.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% This is a ridiculousness based on a fiction, 12:59.700 --> 13:02.300 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% which is based on a delusion rooted in fantasy. 13:02.300 --> 13:04.100 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% Just leave, go home. 13:05.700 --> 13:08.400 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% So at 12:31, I return to the theater. 13:08.400 --> 13:11.033 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And at this point now there's ropes set up, 13:11.033 --> 13:14.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and I get over to where everybody else is standing. 13:14.400 --> 13:18.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And sure enough, this woman who I recognize 13:18.433 --> 13:22.133 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% as the mistress of merchandising, Heidi. 13:22.133 --> 13:25.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% She walks over to me and she says, "Are you Keith?" 13:25.466 --> 13:27.433 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% And I said, "Yeah." 13:27.433 --> 13:29.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And she said, "Oh, good, listen, 13:29.366 --> 13:30.866 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% Ani really wants to meet you, 13:30.866 --> 13:33.133 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% but the thing is, she's lost her voice." 13:33.133 --> 13:35.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And I say, "Oh, well, oh my God. 13:35.100 --> 13:39.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I mean, come on, don't make any trouble over me. 13:39.400 --> 13:42.133 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% You know, I don't wanna cause it." 13:42.133 --> 13:43.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% "No, no, no, no, no," she says. 13:43.133 --> 13:44.900 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% "Just wait here, just wait here." 13:45.900 --> 13:47.266 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% I said, "Okay." 13:47.266 --> 13:48.866 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% I mean, now I know. 13:48.866 --> 13:51.300 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Now I know that Ani wants to meet me, 13:51.300 --> 13:52.533 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and I'm standing there and I'm waiting. 13:52.533 --> 13:54.133 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And Heidi comes back over and she says, 13:54.133 --> 13:56.066 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% "Okay, come on, come on." 13:56.066 --> 13:58.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And I'm walking towards the bus 13:58.900 --> 14:00.266 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% and along the side of the bus, 14:00.266 --> 14:02.333 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and the door opens, and Ani comes out. 14:02.333 --> 14:04.100 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% She gives me a little wave. 14:04.100 --> 14:06.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And we approach, and we approach, and we approach. 14:06.133 --> 14:09.533 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And before I know it, she's just hugging me, 14:09.533 --> 14:10.800 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% and I'm just hugging her. 14:10.800 --> 14:13.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And it's just so, you know, (Keith snaps) 14:13.200 --> 14:15.266 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% deep, and cool, and yeah. 14:16.200 --> 14:18.600 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% And we back away, 14:19.600 --> 14:21.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and she pulls that little note. 14:23.200 --> 14:24.833 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% And I read the note. 14:24.833 --> 14:26.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And the thing is that I didn't wanna stand there 14:26.800 --> 14:28.200 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% like staring at the note. 14:28.200 --> 14:30.000 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% I mean, I'm scanning it, and I'm looking, 14:30.000 --> 14:32.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and I'm scanning it, and I get the gist of it. 14:32.466 --> 14:35.600 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% And now thinking about what to do next. 14:35.600 --> 14:38.033 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% I feel like the obvious thing to do, 14:38.033 --> 14:40.633 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% you know, for the sake of theater 14:40.633 --> 14:43.033 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% is to crumble up the note and eat it. 14:43.033 --> 14:45.266 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% And no words were spoken. 14:45.266 --> 14:46.833 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% And then the cab pulled up, 14:46.833 --> 14:49.300 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% and she got in and drove off. 14:51.433 --> 14:52.600 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (upbeat music) 14:52.600 --> 14:55.866 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I was sort of thinking about flow state 14:55.866 --> 14:58.000 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% as another way to sort of say mastery. 14:58.000 --> 15:01.200 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Flow state, jazz musicians are just in the flow state. 15:01.200 --> 15:03.033 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% And I was thinking about with jazz musicians, you know, 15:03.033 --> 15:05.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% there is the lexicon, there's the language, 15:05.200 --> 15:07.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% there's the vocabulary, there's the structure, 15:07.200 --> 15:10.200 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and you can like free out within that. 15:10.200 --> 15:13.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And then I was thinking about mania, or my mania, 15:13.266 --> 15:17.866 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% where it's almost like a flow state. 15:17.866 --> 15:18.833 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% - [Glen] Yeah. 15:18.833 --> 15:20.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% - [Keith] And over the 20 years- 15:20.366 --> 15:21.833 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% - [Glen] Right. 15:21.833 --> 15:24.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - I have built a lexicon, a vocabulary, a symbology, 15:24.033 --> 15:25.333 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% a catalog of imagery. 15:25.333 --> 15:27.033 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% It is my connection. 15:27.033 --> 15:31.533 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% It is my gateway drug into one love, 15:31.533 --> 15:35.666 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% into universal consciousness, into the God spark within me, 15:35.666 --> 15:38.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% into the the sefirot to the Kabbalah tree of life 15:38.666 --> 15:40.200 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% working the energy up. 15:41.433 --> 15:45.400 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% There's this thing called the deep wink. 15:45.400 --> 15:50.400 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% And I have always felt that Ani and I 15:51.266 --> 15:53.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% connected inside this deep wink, 15:53.866 --> 15:55.766 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% and it was all unspoken, 15:55.766 --> 16:00.800 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and it was all referential, second level subtextual stuff. 16:01.966 --> 16:06.233 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% But for me, I have always wanted to say, 16:06.233 --> 16:07.600 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% let's talk about it. 16:07.600 --> 16:10.500 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Let's bring that subtextual, meta referential stuff 16:10.500 --> 16:14.266 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% up to the surface, and chop it up, and cut it around, 16:14.266 --> 16:15.600 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% and make jokes, and laugh, 16:15.600 --> 16:17.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and say, "Oh God, you did that, and I did that. 16:17.666 --> 16:19.066 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% Then ha and ha!" 16:19.066 --> 16:23.400 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% But that's only works if it's true, 16:23.400 --> 16:25.466 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and I have no idea whether it's true. 16:26.633 --> 16:30.733 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% One day after having met her on the street, 16:30.733 --> 16:32.066 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% she was back in Boston. 16:32.066 --> 16:33.933 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% So it was a year or two later. 16:33.933 --> 16:35.500 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% And as I approached the stage door, 16:35.500 --> 16:39.100 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% wouldn't you know, she and a friend were returning 16:39.100 --> 16:40.966 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% to the stage door, maybe from lunch. 16:40.966 --> 16:44.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And there we were coincidentally 16:45.566 --> 16:48.100 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% arriving at the stage door at the same moment. 16:49.500 --> 16:52.100 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% And I mean, I tried to hold in my like (Keith gasps). 16:54.500 --> 16:57.566 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Because as soon as she saw me see her, 16:58.933 --> 17:02.300 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% I was like, uh-oh, I don't think she wants to see me. 17:03.700 --> 17:08.700 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% And then she said to me, "Why me? 17:10.166 --> 17:13.300 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Why am I the benefactor of all this love and art making?" 17:16.966 --> 17:20.033 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And I sort of didn't know what to say 17:21.166 --> 17:24.833 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% because don't you know? 17:24.833 --> 17:26.966 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Didn't you, haven't we, isn't it? 17:26.966 --> 17:27.833 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% I thought that. 17:29.200 --> 17:33.666 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% It's like that line from the Matrix where Morpheus says, 17:33.666 --> 17:36.233 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% "I had a dream. 17:36.233 --> 17:39.666 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% That dream has left me now." (Keith laughs) 17:39.666 --> 17:42.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I've come to understand that moment differently 17:42.000 --> 17:42.833 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% through the years, 17:42.833 --> 17:45.566 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% but it was like 17:45.566 --> 17:48.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% having the wind taken out of you in a moment. 17:48.500 --> 17:52.300 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% And I realized that I wasn't gonna be invited backstage. 17:52.300 --> 17:54.333 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% This wasn't the party. 17:54.333 --> 17:55.700 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% This was actually like, 17:57.233 --> 17:59.966 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% I don't understand why you're doing this. 18:01.066 --> 18:03.033 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% So I fumbled through something like, 18:03.033 --> 18:05.266 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% "Well, I can't tell you now, you know, 18:05.266 --> 18:07.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% in 30 seconds standing outside the stage door. 18:07.733 --> 18:10.133 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% But you know, giving is for the giver, 18:10.133 --> 18:13.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and the receiver is just extra." 18:13.366 --> 18:16.233 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% She's like, "Ah, okay, all right. 18:16.233 --> 18:19.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Well, you know, enjoy the show." 18:19.933 --> 18:20.800 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% And she was gone. 18:22.200 --> 18:23.400 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% And I was crushed 18:25.366 --> 18:26.266 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% until I wasn't. 18:28.366 --> 18:29.866 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (gentle music) 18:29.866 --> 18:33.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% In 2015, I got an email (email dings) saying, 18:33.266 --> 18:36.100 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% "Hey, this is Ani DiFranco. 18:37.433 --> 18:40.733 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Thanks for all the art you've sent me over the years. 18:40.733 --> 18:43.233 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% I'm gonna be in your neck of the woods. 18:43.233 --> 18:46.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Would you like to come after a show and hang out?" 18:49.033 --> 18:54.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Words that I had longed to hear for 20 years. 18:54.900 --> 18:56.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% - At the time that he, you know, 18:56.633 --> 18:58.733 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% had the whole trip about Ani DiFranco, 18:58.733 --> 19:01.200 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% I was like, this, you know, 19:01.200 --> 19:03.466 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% this guy is like in a dream world. 19:03.466 --> 19:04.633 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% Like this is not gonna happen. 19:04.633 --> 19:05.700 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% This is not happening. 19:05.700 --> 19:06.700 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% This is not true. 19:06.700 --> 19:08.633 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% You're imagining things. 19:10.033 --> 19:14.166 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% And I mean, I've kinda held that thought belief up until 19:14.166 --> 19:16.833 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% when they started to actually communicate with one another, 19:16.833 --> 19:19.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% became friends where I was like, holy (beeps). 19:19.666 --> 19:21.933 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% - As soon as that happened, 19:21.933 --> 19:26.633 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% my entire attitude changed about Keith. 19:27.533 --> 19:29.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I admired Keith all of a sudden. 19:29.833 --> 19:33.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% He kind of, he brought me to a different level 19:33.633 --> 19:35.133 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% of possibilities. 19:36.133 --> 19:38.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% - Well, it's been over 20 years, 19:40.300 --> 19:43.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but in about two weeks, Ani DiFranco is coming over 19:43.633 --> 19:46.833 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% to participate in this film, to hang out, 19:46.833 --> 19:50.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% to share her experience of what this all was. 19:50.300 --> 19:53.166 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% We're gonna have the party 19:53.166 --> 19:55.033 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% that I've always been hoping for. 19:56.466 --> 19:59.200 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% (guitar playing) 20:00.433 --> 20:02.433 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% ♪ I'll be your biggest fan 20:02.433 --> 20:04.266 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% ♪ I'll be your fool 20:04.266 --> 20:06.433 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% ♪ I'll be your exception 20:06.433 --> 20:09.666 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% ♪ Do whatever the rules. 20:09.666 --> 20:10.500 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% - For many years 20:12.533 --> 20:17.533 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I was intimidated by the intensity of his, 20:21.200 --> 20:24.266 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% you know, love that he was pouring back at me 20:24.266 --> 20:25.800 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% from the ether. 20:25.800 --> 20:29.700 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% I don't think I have nearly the memories that he does. 20:29.700 --> 20:32.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - If it's okay with you, I actually wanted to start 20:32.033 --> 20:34.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% by asking you a broad question. 20:34.333 --> 20:35.633 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% - [Ani] Yeah. 20:35.633 --> 20:37.533 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% - What's your relationship like with fans? 20:37.533 --> 20:40.933 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% - Right from the beginning I had super fans, right? 20:40.933 --> 20:45.800 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% You know, I guess when I just had very few listeners at all. 20:45.800 --> 20:47.466 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% In the beginning, I was like, whoa, 20:47.466 --> 20:49.933 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% why is this happening to me? 20:49.933 --> 20:51.033 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% Why is this coming at me? 20:51.033 --> 20:52.700 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And then I realized, oh, (Ani laughs) 20:52.700 --> 20:56.100 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% because I'm doing that too, 20:56.100 --> 20:58.866 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% coming very intensely at the world. 20:58.866 --> 21:03.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% There was a time in the late 90s and early aughts 21:04.566 --> 21:06.066 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% that it was too much. 21:06.066 --> 21:10.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It was just like, I was a symbol that represented something, 21:10.033 --> 21:12.566 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% and they were there, you know, 21:12.566 --> 21:16.066 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% with no awareness of my humanity or, 21:16.066 --> 21:19.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and no real, you know, it was like souvenir. 21:19.200 --> 21:24.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% They wanted a thing, or a thing, or a thing, or more things. 21:25.366 --> 21:28.400 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% I sort of felt just constantly eviscerated, 21:28.400 --> 21:32.233 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% and drained, and disregarded. 21:32.233 --> 21:36.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And you know, of course there's people who do give back, 21:36.233 --> 21:39.033 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% not just want, and want, and want more. 21:39.033 --> 21:40.500 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% - Do you have a memory 21:40.500 --> 21:43.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% of the first time Keith was on your radar? 21:43.500 --> 21:47.700 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% - I believe that his artwork hit my radar 21:49.033 --> 21:51.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% at some point early on 'cause it's so exceptional, 21:51.900 --> 21:55.700 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% you know, that the beauty of his offerings. 21:57.233 --> 22:01.633 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Again, though, like how many hours went into constructing 22:01.633 --> 22:03.066 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% this very detailed? 22:03.066 --> 22:05.400 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% And the experience, and you open it, 22:05.400 --> 22:06.633 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% and the thing comes out, 22:06.633 --> 22:09.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and then that thing like grows into a thing, and- 22:09.066 --> 22:11.133 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% - I happen to have one right here. 22:11.133 --> 22:12.233 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% (Ani laughs) - Yeah. 22:12.233 --> 22:13.466 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (gentle music) 22:13.466 --> 22:17.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% You know, I think when these types of things, 22:17.133 --> 22:19.900 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% beautiful works of art, 22:19.900 --> 22:22.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% it was like, oh, this is that same person 22:22.433 --> 22:24.833 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% as that other thing from. 22:24.833 --> 22:29.233 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% And then he, I don't know if he had just intuited 22:29.233 --> 22:32.433 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% that sending to the office is not the quick. 22:32.433 --> 22:35.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% So things would come to venues, 22:35.166 --> 22:37.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and they would arrive the day before. 22:37.000 --> 22:39.600 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Like he'd know, and they would care of. 22:39.600 --> 22:42.833 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And so I'd walk into a dressing room, 22:42.833 --> 22:45.500 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% and there would be a thing. 22:45.500 --> 22:47.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% It's like, oh, there's that guy again. 22:47.666 --> 22:50.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% My friend Heidi, who is my mistress of merch, 22:50.433 --> 22:55.400 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% she became aware of Keith and who this artist actually is, 22:56.300 --> 22:57.733 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% and when they're turning up. 22:57.733 --> 23:01.666 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% And swear, I think my first memory of meeting Keith, 23:01.666 --> 23:04.700 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% I was sick as a dog, 23:04.700 --> 23:06.666 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% but I think it was Heidi who said, 23:06.666 --> 23:08.666 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% "You know, Keith is outside the bus." 23:08.666 --> 23:10.366 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% And I was like, (beeps) 23:10.366 --> 23:14.333 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% I'm gonna go say hi to this crazy person. 23:14.333 --> 23:17.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And, but I couldn't say hi 'cause I couldn't talk. 23:17.166 --> 23:18.366 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% I couldn't say anything. 23:19.666 --> 23:21.500 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% I went out and I wrote a note. 23:21.500 --> 23:24.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I can't talk and I can't do the show tonight. 23:24.200 --> 23:27.000 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% Thank you, you know, I don't know, 23:27.000 --> 23:29.166 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% for all the gifts. 23:29.166 --> 23:33.466 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% And then he took it, and he crumbled it up, and he ate it. 23:33.466 --> 23:35.233 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% (Ani laughs) The note. 23:35.233 --> 23:38.333 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% Ever memorable is he. 23:38.333 --> 23:43.333 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% I would say the messages, I heard them along the way, 23:45.833 --> 23:50.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and they told me that he was really hearing my music. 23:51.866 --> 23:54.666 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% He would say little messages back 23:54.666 --> 23:57.300 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% to the little messages I send out in songs. 23:57.300 --> 24:00.733 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% I felt seen, you know, and heard. 24:00.733 --> 24:02.433 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% He's right, you know? 24:02.433 --> 24:03.466 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% He's right. 24:03.466 --> 24:06.233 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% I was talking to him. 24:06.233 --> 24:10.900 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% And it's not true in the context that he was devising, 24:10.900 --> 24:13.400 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% but it's true, very true in another way, 24:13.400 --> 24:16.800 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% like I am very much talking right to anyone 24:16.800 --> 24:18.066 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% who chooses to listen 24:18.066 --> 24:21.600 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% or has the ears to hear what I'm saying. 24:23.066 --> 24:26.433 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% And there is a relationship there that exists in the ether, 24:26.433 --> 24:28.133 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% and it is intimate. 24:28.133 --> 24:31.566 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% You know, I agree with all of that. 24:31.566 --> 24:35.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% On some level, maybe we are meeting in our dreams. 24:35.633 --> 24:37.900 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% Maybe we do know each other. 24:37.900 --> 24:41.100 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Maybe we are having a conversation. 24:41.100 --> 24:42.566 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% On some level, I believe, 24:42.566 --> 24:45.600 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% yes, that's what I'm doing with my art. 24:45.600 --> 24:48.400 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% That doesn't mean you should turn up in my bedroom. 24:48.400 --> 24:52.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I had a bipolar, I mean maybe schizophrenic, 24:52.700 --> 24:56.100 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% or whatever person turn up in my bedroom. 24:56.100 --> 24:57.600 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% - A stranger. - A stranger. 24:57.600 --> 24:59.866 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% - Did you ever feel threatened by Keith? 24:59.866 --> 25:03.800 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% - I remember my Heidi had tipped me that he was coming. 25:03.800 --> 25:08.800 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% So I put this poem Parameters that I wrote 25:10.100 --> 25:13.800 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% about that experience of having a fan wait for me, 25:15.033 --> 25:16.833 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% and break into my house, 25:16.833 --> 25:19.966 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and wait for me to come home alone, 25:19.966 --> 25:23.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and be upstairs in my bedroom in the dark 25:24.433 --> 25:28.500 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% between me and the door for a perilous amount of time. 25:28.500 --> 25:30.966 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% A dude, you know, who 25:33.466 --> 25:37.466 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% knew very clearly that we had been speaking through my songs 25:37.466 --> 25:38.833 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% and that I had called him. 25:40.766 --> 25:42.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I put that poem on the set list, 25:42.933 --> 25:46.033 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and I just remember delivering the poem to Keith. 25:46.033 --> 25:49.500 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% That was actually me speaking directly to Keith Wasserman 25:50.933 --> 25:55.833 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% from stage saying, this is why I don't write you back. 25:56.866 --> 26:01.733 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I feel the expectation is building, 26:02.600 --> 26:05.066 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% and I need you to understand. 26:06.733 --> 26:08.900 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% Little poem called Parameters. 26:10.500 --> 26:11.533 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% 33 years go by, 26:11.533 --> 26:12.866 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% and not once do you come home 26:12.866 --> 26:15.100 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% to find a man sitting in your bedroom, 26:15.100 --> 26:18.933 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% that is a man you don't know who came a long way 26:18.933 --> 26:22.166 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% to deliver one very specific message. 26:22.166 --> 26:24.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Lock your back door, you idiot. 26:25.400 --> 26:27.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% However invincible you imagine yourself to be- 26:28.866 --> 26:32.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I do remember when his packages started to include 26:32.200 --> 26:34.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% the word or images of a wife and then daughter. 26:34.933 --> 26:36.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And that, (Ani exhales) 26:36.600 --> 26:38.900 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% you know, I just felt, okay. 26:38.900 --> 26:41.566 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I think that was when I considered opening the door. 26:41.566 --> 26:43.000 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% And then I did. 26:43.000 --> 26:45.833 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% ♪ You gotta meet my little girl ♪ 26:45.833 --> 26:48.500 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% ♪ She's really just so sweet 26:48.500 --> 26:53.400 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% ♪ Love the pitter-patter of her precious little feet ♪ 26:53.400 --> 26:57.733 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% - Yeah, so finally we met, and that was fantastic. 26:57.733 --> 27:00.066 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% We had a little visit after a show one night 27:00.066 --> 27:03.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% when I finally just put down the drawbridge. 27:03.333 --> 27:04.433 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% (Ani laughs) 27:04.433 --> 27:06.633 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% And he crossed over and we hung out. 27:06.633 --> 27:09.433 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% And of course he's completely captivating and charming. 27:09.433 --> 27:13.800 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% And he bestowed his magic upon my kids. 27:13.800 --> 27:15.333 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% You know, we went and visited, 27:15.333 --> 27:17.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and he had constructed this treasure hunt 27:17.600 --> 27:20.133 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% on the beautiful property that they were living on. 27:20.133 --> 27:23.500 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% And I don't know if my kids appreciated it 27:23.500 --> 27:25.633 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% nearly as much as me, 27:25.633 --> 27:28.466 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% but you know, that's the kind of magic 27:28.466 --> 27:31.433 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% that doesn't exist in everyone 27:31.433 --> 27:33.100 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and doesn't come along every day. 27:34.433 --> 27:36.933 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (light music) 27:38.100 --> 27:41.100 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% - When Ani DiFranco first emailed me, 27:41.100 --> 27:42.300 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% she said something like, 27:42.300 --> 27:44.233 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% "You've given me so much over the years. 27:44.233 --> 27:47.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Is there anything that I can give you in return?" 27:47.000 --> 27:50.800 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% And I said, "Really, the only thing I want is time 27:50.800 --> 27:53.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% to tell you this epic story that I have, 27:53.633 --> 27:57.266 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% which would explain and maybe help you make sense of 27:57.266 --> 28:01.300 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% why I've been sending you this art for 20 years." 28:02.566 --> 28:06.066 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Of course, it was the story of my manic episodes, 28:06.066 --> 28:09.133 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% but we never really found that time. 28:11.366 --> 28:16.066 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% And several years later, I had another manic episode, 28:16.066 --> 28:18.500 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% and during that episode, 28:18.500 --> 28:20.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I thought that Ani was trying to reach out to me. 28:20.500 --> 28:21.833 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% I thought she was trying to call me. 28:21.833 --> 28:25.500 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And so I decided I'd call her instead. 28:25.500 --> 28:26.900 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% I mean, I have her number. 28:26.900 --> 28:28.133 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% We've been on the phone. 28:29.466 --> 28:31.633 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Except it was three o'clock in the morning. 28:33.033 --> 28:37.500 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% And the next day my wife got a voicemail from Ani DiFranco. 28:38.333 --> 28:40.633 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% - Hey Heidi, it's Ani calling. 28:40.633 --> 28:42.233 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% Um, hi. 28:42.233 --> 28:44.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% So last night at like three in the morning, 28:44.666 --> 28:49.666 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% I get a few texts in series from Keith saying 28:50.800 --> 28:51.833 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% something or other and then call me. 28:51.833 --> 28:54.900 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% I'm not sure what's happening, 28:54.900 --> 28:59.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but if there's anything I can do to help, let me know. 28:59.000 --> 29:00.633 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% Yeah, no, I just felt empathy 29:00.633 --> 29:05.233 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% because this is my friend now who is in trouble. 29:05.233 --> 29:09.233 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% If I didn't have like a lot of experience with mania, 29:09.233 --> 29:14.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% maybe I would've gotten more freaked out. 29:14.066 --> 29:15.366 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% But for me it's like, ah, 29:17.900 --> 29:21.233 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% he needs to be tied to the earth. 29:22.433 --> 29:24.400 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Those are my favorite people often, 29:24.400 --> 29:28.200 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% you know, people who create their own worlds. 29:28.200 --> 29:30.866 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Those are most artists. 29:30.866 --> 29:34.066 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% I feel like I can relate very much. 29:34.066 --> 29:39.066 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% I feel way more than I want to feel most of the time. 29:39.766 --> 29:41.366 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% And there's a price. 29:41.366 --> 29:43.066 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% You know, it's a great gift. 29:44.233 --> 29:46.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% You can put beauty and magic in the world, 29:46.900 --> 29:51.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and you can amplify being alive for people around you. 29:53.733 --> 29:56.066 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% And you can set people free, 29:56.066 --> 29:59.633 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% and you pay a price, you know? 29:59.633 --> 30:01.600 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% So I understand. 30:01.600 --> 30:05.400 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% It's like, yes, if anything, I just felt empathy. 30:07.733 --> 30:09.200 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% Empathy, not sympathy. 30:09.200 --> 30:13.566 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I felt empathy for the price that you have to pay 30:13.566 --> 30:14.766 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% when you're that guy. 30:21.566 --> 30:23.400 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (gentle music) 30:23.400 --> 30:26.466 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% - I thought I would bring my stuff and stuffs, 30:26.466 --> 30:29.400 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and we could collage, and we could paint. 30:33.800 --> 30:37.900 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% There was this piece where 30:37.900 --> 30:42.133 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% somebody might see something that I made before I sent it 30:42.133 --> 30:45.233 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and would wanna know, like, "Oh, have you ever heard back? 30:45.233 --> 30:46.233 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% Have you ever da, da?" 30:46.233 --> 30:47.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I'm like, "No, it's, you know." 30:47.700 --> 30:48.933 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% "Well, how can you?" 30:48.933 --> 30:53.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% It's like it's really more about the work. 30:53.200 --> 30:54.566 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% And personally, 30:54.566 --> 30:58.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I feel like each album that I made got better. 30:58.766 --> 31:00.800 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Each artwork that I made got better, 31:00.800 --> 31:04.266 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% more interesting, more fun. 31:04.266 --> 31:09.266 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% And if I was ever going to actually excite you, impress you, 31:10.966 --> 31:14.866 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and you know, tickle your fancy, pique your interest, 31:14.866 --> 31:16.333 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% it was gonna be through the work. 31:16.333 --> 31:18.833 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% That was sort of my feeling. 31:18.833 --> 31:22.766 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And the decade or more of like, oh, not yet. 31:22.766 --> 31:24.266 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% I haven't heard yet. 31:24.266 --> 31:25.366 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% I haven't heard back yet. 31:25.366 --> 31:26.600 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% - Haven't heard back yet. 31:26.600 --> 31:27.966 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% - Was like, okay, I gotta keep working. 31:27.966 --> 31:29.533 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% - [Ani] Not stopping. 31:29.533 --> 31:30.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - I gotta keep working. - Love it. 31:30.366 --> 31:31.633 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5% I love it. 31:31.633 --> 31:32.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% That's so freaking cool. - Gotta keep working. 31:32.533 --> 31:34.100 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% Right, it's getting better. 31:34.100 --> 31:35.966 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% And you know, like in my own brain, 31:35.966 --> 31:37.766 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% I would hear encouragement. 31:37.766 --> 31:42.766 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% I would hear, I dig it, I wanna, I can't, you know? 31:43.633 --> 31:44.533 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% - I know she loved that one. 31:44.533 --> 31:45.966 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% - Yeah. 31:45.966 --> 31:49.366 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% - God, it's kind of blowing my mind all over again. 31:49.366 --> 31:50.666 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% - Yay. 31:50.666 --> 31:51.666 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% - All the lengths you went to. 31:53.700 --> 31:55.200 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% - That was the idea. 31:55.200 --> 31:57.466 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% You know, I was like, how do you blow someone's mind? 31:57.466 --> 31:59.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I wanna figure out how to blow someone's mind. 31:59.533 --> 32:00.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - No, you did, you did. 32:00.500 --> 32:01.233 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% You succeeded. - Awesome. 32:02.400 --> 32:05.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - I met a lot of people who have big dreams 32:05.433 --> 32:07.100 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% but don't know how to reach them. 32:08.233 --> 32:12.266 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Keith, he knows how to reach his dreams. 32:12.266 --> 32:16.033 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% - His agendas were not about the art world. 32:17.200 --> 32:19.566 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Yes, he wanted to be successful as an artist, 32:19.566 --> 32:21.700 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% but his agenda was about 32:24.233 --> 32:29.233 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% communicating with Ani as an equal and as a friend. 32:30.700 --> 32:33.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And I didn't think it was possible and many people didn't, 32:33.766 --> 32:36.866 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% but Keith made that happen. 32:36.866 --> 32:41.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And after that I wanted to just join Keith. 32:43.733 --> 32:47.333 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% - I'm not a jealous person and I'm not threatened. 32:47.333 --> 32:48.833 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% I trust in his love for me. 32:48.833 --> 32:53.766 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% And yet I know that he has a deep, deep love for Ani, 32:54.433 --> 32:56.066 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% and so do I. 32:56.066 --> 33:00.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I mean, I really respect the lessons she's given him. 33:00.266 --> 33:02.433 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% I think she's made him a better man. 33:03.900 --> 33:08.333 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% And I just want him to live his life to the fullest, 33:08.333 --> 33:10.400 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and I wanna be part of that journey with him. 33:10.400 --> 33:12.400 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% - I actually believe in magic. 33:13.766 --> 33:18.233 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% It's like whatever he was imagining was real in 1998, 33:21.433 --> 33:23.633 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% has become real in the world. 33:23.633 --> 33:27.066 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% And whether it was actually real then or not, 33:27.066 --> 33:29.633 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% he made it real or it became real. 33:29.633 --> 33:30.966 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% And that's the miracle. 33:30.966 --> 33:32.800 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% That's the magic. 33:32.800 --> 33:36.766 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And we're right here in the middle of it. 33:36.766 --> 33:40.300 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% ♪ The depths of ever rest. 33:44.566 --> 33:47.100 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (gentle music) 33:51.433 --> 33:55.300 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% - We are about to film me watching 33:55.300 --> 33:57.733 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% Ani's interview for the first time. 33:57.733 --> 34:02.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I have been prepared for various balloons to go. 34:03.500 --> 34:05.300 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% (Keith exhaling) 34:05.300 --> 34:07.200 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% ♪ I'm so lucky to be home- 34:07.200 --> 34:08.033 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% - [Phone] Yeah. 34:10.400 --> 34:12.633 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% That's a funny way to put it. 34:14.566 --> 34:15.966 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% Hello? 34:15.966 --> 34:19.400 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% - Sorry, the balloon was still emptying out there. 34:19.400 --> 34:21.633 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% (person on phone laughing) 34:21.633 --> 34:25.700 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% ♪ We've been all the way around ♪ 34:25.700 --> 34:30.700 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% ♪ And come back to love anew 34:34.800 --> 34:39.633 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% ♪ And I am so lucky to be home with you ♪ 34:39.633 --> 34:42.466 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% - Look guys, if I get a cease and desist letter, 34:42.466 --> 34:44.500 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% I'll totally stop, right? 34:44.500 --> 34:46.866 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% - Cease collaging in my direction. 34:46.866 --> 34:49.066 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% - Yeah. - Or I'll have you arrested. 34:49.066 --> 34:50.333 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% - Please join us next week 34:50.333 --> 34:52.166 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% for our regularly scheduled program 34:52.166 --> 34:54.800 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% of Keith has a hypomanic episode. 34:54.800 --> 34:56.000 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (Keith laughs) 34:56.000 --> 34:57.566 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Thank you for coming and get home safely.