WEBVTT 00:00.933 --> 00:03.533 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (gentle music) 00:06.866 --> 00:10.000 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% - We were living in London in a small bed sitter, 00:10.000 --> 00:13.066 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and I was doing my part-time teaching, 00:13.066 --> 00:15.566 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and she was with the American Embassy. 00:18.700 --> 00:22.400 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% She was getting a newspaper from the States, 00:22.400 --> 00:26.933 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% saw this ad for a farmhouse in Maine 00:26.933 --> 00:31.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% with a hundred acres for $4,000 00:31.133 --> 00:32.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and she thought, wow, you know, 00:32.666 --> 00:36.566 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% we are living in an area maybe 20 feet by 30 feet, 00:36.566 --> 00:40.666 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% that sounded to us like an estate, a huge estate, you know? 00:40.666 --> 00:42.033 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% And this is incredible, 00:42.033 --> 00:44.666 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% fancy having living on a place like that. 00:44.666 --> 00:49.633 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% So in spur of the moment, we decided to pack up and leave. 00:50.300 --> 00:52.466 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (gentle music) 01:05.266 --> 01:08.533 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% So I fell in love with Maine, actually very early 01:08.533 --> 01:11.066 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and I think if it wasn't for Maine, 01:11.066 --> 01:13.900 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% I would never be, I don't think I'd be in this country. 01:15.233 --> 01:19.166 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% You know, Maine is, in some ways it's like Scotland. 01:20.300 --> 01:22.600 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% It's a very beautiful place 01:22.600 --> 01:25.566 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and I can't imagine myself living anywhere else 01:25.566 --> 01:26.700 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% in the United States. 01:30.000 --> 01:33.833 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% We went out to California once, my late wife and I 01:33.833 --> 01:36.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% with the idea that we might settle there, 01:36.900 --> 01:39.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% but after two weeks we decided, 01:39.700 --> 01:42.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% no, we're coming back to Maine and we did. 01:42.200 --> 01:44.833 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (gentle music) 02:09.166 --> 02:12.000 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% My driving force began as art, 02:12.000 --> 02:14.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and I would start doing little drawings at home 02:14.533 --> 02:16.966 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and put 'em up in the mantle piece. 02:16.966 --> 02:21.000 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Little kind of semi surrealist drawings. 02:21.000 --> 02:23.033 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% I remember one, my first drawing, 02:23.033 --> 02:25.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I remember I named it, it was always good. 02:25.133 --> 02:26.866 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% I always enjoyed naming them. 02:26.866 --> 02:29.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% This was called Phantasmagoria. 02:29.566 --> 02:32.866 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I thought, wow, what a title. Phantasmagoria. 02:32.866 --> 02:36.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It was a little sorryless drawing and Phantasmagoria 02:36.300 --> 02:41.100 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% that I remember and then there was another painting. 02:41.100 --> 02:43.100 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% I thought it was very cute to call up 02:43.100 --> 02:44.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% a painting with a French title, 02:44.966 --> 02:46.966 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% so I called it (speaks in foreign language). 02:46.966 --> 02:51.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% So I've got, so I did this rather bracket, 02:51.433 --> 02:54.400 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% like brack and black and mostly black 02:54.400 --> 02:56.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and I called it (speaks in foreign language) 02:56.200 --> 02:57.866 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% and I thought that was great. 02:57.866 --> 03:02.200 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Anyhow, it was an exciting time and a wonderful time. 03:02.200 --> 03:04.966 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% I had a very, a very lovely childhood. 03:04.966 --> 03:06.500 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% I have to say that. 03:06.500 --> 03:11.433 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% I really, I have absolutely no bad recollections at all. 03:12.800 --> 03:15.633 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% All of it was exciting and beautiful 03:15.633 --> 03:20.033 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% and I would not change a moment of it. 03:20.033 --> 03:23.100 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (gentle music) 03:23.100 --> 03:25.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I was, actually born and Largs, 03:25.200 --> 03:29.133 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% but we, I moved when I was one years old to Troon, 03:29.133 --> 03:31.700 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% so I was brought up in Troon. 03:31.700 --> 03:35.166 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% You know, Troon is a little Scottish town 03:35.166 --> 03:39.933 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% on the west coast of Scotland, 40 miles from Glasgow. 03:39.933 --> 03:44.200 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% I would walk on the Troon beach almost every day. 03:44.200 --> 03:45.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It's a bit like here, you know, 03:45.466 --> 03:48.233 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% you could walk from miles and not see anyone 03:49.700 --> 03:53.366 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% and as a young boy, I'd always had this great attraction 03:53.366 --> 03:54.666 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% for the ocean. 03:54.666 --> 03:57.166 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% I would go down there and I'd walk 03:57.166 --> 04:02.100 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and I would enjoy the gulls, the seagulls and everything. 04:02.100 --> 04:04.933 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% It was something that grew on me, 04:04.933 --> 04:08.166 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% that became part of me, being by the ocean 04:08.166 --> 04:11.433 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and when I was, when I'm away from the sea, 04:11.433 --> 04:13.833 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% like when I was in London for 10 years, 04:13.833 --> 04:16.000 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% I always fell out of place. 04:16.000 --> 04:18.266 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% I always wanted to get back to the ocean, 04:18.266 --> 04:21.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% which of course I did when I got to Maine here. 04:21.133 --> 04:23.800 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (bright music) 04:28.066 --> 04:29.966 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% When I first came to this country, 04:31.166 --> 04:35.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% the thing that struck me most was the landscape. 04:37.000 --> 04:41.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It was new and so it had quite an impact on me. 04:43.366 --> 04:47.400 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% So my natural desire was to somehow, not capture visually, 04:47.400 --> 04:52.066 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% but capture the feeling that it gave me, some of the joy. 04:54.233 --> 04:56.233 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Yeah, when I first came to Maine, 04:56.233 --> 04:57.933 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% my paintings changed radically 04:57.933 --> 05:02.933 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% because I had this excitement of a new landscape. 05:03.800 --> 05:06.266 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% So the landscape crept into 05:06.266 --> 05:10.333 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% what I had previously been doing, which was abstracts. 05:10.333 --> 05:15.333 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% So the landscape I did here were basically recognizable, 05:16.766 --> 05:20.566 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% but slightly abstracted too and, but at the same time 05:20.566 --> 05:22.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% as the others were imaginative, 05:22.866 --> 05:25.766 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% they came mostly from feelings and imagination. 05:25.766 --> 05:28.433 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (bright music) 05:40.166 --> 05:42.166 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% - The ocean was always there. 05:43.166 --> 05:45.333 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% He grew up looking at it, 05:45.333 --> 05:48.866 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% just looking at it from right to left 05:48.866 --> 05:50.666 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% instead of left to right. 05:50.666 --> 05:55.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So I think that was part of his earliest imagery. 06:02.266 --> 06:05.333 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% There's something about, hmm, 06:05.333 --> 06:08.300 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% there's just something about water, 06:08.300 --> 06:10.666 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% I suppose it's the immensity of it. 06:11.900 --> 06:16.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It can be overwhelming, but at the same time, 06:17.533 --> 06:22.166 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% it reminds you of how small we are in the universe, 06:23.400 --> 06:24.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% which is not such a bad thing to keep in mind. 06:25.666 --> 06:28.833 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% (gentle bright music) 06:54.800 --> 06:58.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% (gentle bright music continues) 07:20.866 --> 07:23.633 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% - When I was at Marr College, 07:23.633 --> 07:27.866 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I met someone who felt exactly like I did, 07:27.866 --> 07:31.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% which was amazing, it's unlikely that ever happened, 07:31.433 --> 07:33.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% but I met my friend Bill Crozier 07:35.366 --> 07:37.266 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% and this was at high school 07:37.266 --> 07:41.233 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and he had the same passion for art as I did 07:41.233 --> 07:46.100 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% and both of us from then on, we would take walks together, 07:46.100 --> 07:49.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% we would paint together, I would paint in his shed. 07:49.200 --> 07:50.566 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% He had a shed out. 07:52.066 --> 07:55.766 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% His father was a plumber and had a shed in the back garden. 07:55.766 --> 07:59.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% He lived in the working class part of town, 07:59.033 --> 08:01.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% 'cause his father was walking the shipyard. 08:01.700 --> 08:04.933 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% I lived in the other part of town, but we'd get together, 08:04.933 --> 08:07.433 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% I would paint in his shack 08:07.433 --> 08:10.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and he would come and paint in my attic. 08:10.133 --> 08:14.466 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% So we did a lot of painting together and actual fact, 08:14.466 --> 08:16.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% we had our first exhibition ever 08:18.033 --> 08:21.533 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% was at a tea room in Troon and then we went on, 08:21.533 --> 08:25.033 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% this is why we were still at Marr College, 08:25.033 --> 08:28.900 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% we had an exhibition and then we had an exhibition 08:28.900 --> 08:33.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% in the town of Ayr, the the capital of Ayrshire 08:33.733 --> 08:38.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and we had a town at the Carnegie, the Carnegie Library 08:39.933 --> 08:42.100 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and it was opened by an important person living. 08:42.100 --> 08:47.100 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% It was quite a step up for two young boys 08:49.166 --> 08:52.900 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% who had actually, basically no training, 08:52.900 --> 08:55.166 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% but just a passion for art. 08:55.166 --> 08:58.166 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Of course, from that point in on, 08:58.166 --> 09:00.100 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% we went to the Glasgow School of Art. 09:00.100 --> 09:05.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% We graduated from, we graduated in art from Marr College 09:06.533 --> 09:11.433 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% and actual fact, he got first prize, I got second prize. 09:15.566 --> 09:19.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Well, I didn't mind that, so we both won in our year 09:21.266 --> 09:25.500 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% for art and he was first, I second, but that was okay. 09:25.500 --> 09:26.700 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% We tried. (laughs) 09:26.700 --> 09:31.666 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% But anyway, so naturally we both went 09:33.100 --> 09:36.066 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% to the Glasgow School of Art after, after Marr College. 09:40.166 --> 09:42.166 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% What was going on in London at that time, 09:42.166 --> 09:45.666 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% it was very lively place Soho, very lively. 09:45.666 --> 09:49.800 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% It was a wonderful gathering of famous people 09:49.800 --> 09:52.700 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% in Downing house, no one had any money, 09:52.700 --> 09:54.566 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% but everybody seemed to end up drunk. 09:58.033 --> 10:00.866 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% The most famous place there at that time 10:00.866 --> 10:03.866 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% was a place called the Colony Club. 10:03.866 --> 10:06.866 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% The Colony Club was a place where 10:06.866 --> 10:10.033 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% after the regular pubs closed, 10:10.033 --> 10:12.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% people could go there and drink 10:12.333 --> 10:15.866 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and it was a favorite place of Francis Bacon. 10:15.866 --> 10:18.833 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% He would go there with his entourage 10:18.833 --> 10:23.166 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and it was run by a woman called Muriel Belcher. 10:24.400 --> 10:27.733 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% She was an incredibly weird character too. 10:27.733 --> 10:29.866 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% She swore like a trooper 10:29.866 --> 10:32.800 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and she wouldn't let anyone in that she didn't like 10:32.800 --> 10:36.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and she said a lot nasty things about people 10:36.300 --> 10:38.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and people were afraid off of her generally, 10:38.700 --> 10:43.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but if you got past the door and you're fine 10:43.600 --> 10:47.933 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and got into the club and that was a center 10:47.933 --> 10:52.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% for a lot of people, a lot of well known people 10:52.666 --> 10:55.166 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% like Francis Bacon and Lucian Freud 10:55.166 --> 10:57.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and people out there would go and drink there. 11:03.100 --> 11:08.100 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Soho that time, there were a lot of drinking establishments. 11:11.200 --> 11:13.700 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% There were some betting shops 11:13.700 --> 11:16.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and there were a lot of hookers, you know, 11:16.233 --> 11:19.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and you're walking down a street to get to a pub, 11:19.800 --> 11:22.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% there would be, a hooker with appear in the doorway 11:22.200 --> 11:26.300 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% and ask you to come in and you had to get past all of that 11:26.300 --> 11:27.700 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% before he got to the pub, 11:27.700 --> 11:31.766 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% so it was a very colorful era, to say the least. 11:38.766 --> 11:43.000 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% There was a large group of gay people and their supporters, 11:43.000 --> 11:45.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% the people who helped to promote them 11:45.333 --> 11:48.500 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% were also gay, publishers and critics 11:48.500 --> 11:50.866 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% who helped to make the names 11:50.866 --> 11:53.033 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% were also part of that gay community. 11:53.033 --> 11:54.466 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% It wasn't entirely so, 11:54.466 --> 11:56.666 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Bill and I were not, maybe they thought we were 11:56.666 --> 11:58.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% because we were good companions, 11:58.133 --> 12:01.300 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% but anyhow, we were accepted into the group. 12:01.300 --> 12:04.400 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% (chilled jazz music) 12:05.966 --> 12:10.066 align:left position:22.5% line:77% size:67.5% At the time, it was an incredibly colorful, exciting place. 12:11.400 --> 12:14.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% More than, I can think of who are like it today. 12:16.633 --> 12:19.633 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% That was Soho. There's so many interesting people. 12:19.633 --> 12:23.166 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Most of them, most of them died young. 12:23.166 --> 12:26.133 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% Some of them committed suicide 12:26.133 --> 12:28.233 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% or they drank themselves to death. 12:28.233 --> 12:31.266 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% By the time we left, 12:31.266 --> 12:36.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% a lot of those people we had known had died or had, 12:37.600 --> 12:41.866 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% or I had less to do with them because I was married. 12:41.866 --> 12:45.266 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% I often went with my wife to Soho. 12:45.266 --> 12:47.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% She wasn't really into all that. 12:47.866 --> 12:49.166 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% It's a good place for people 12:49.166 --> 12:51.833 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% who are single rather than married. 12:51.833 --> 12:54.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% You didn't have responsibilities 12:54.066 --> 12:56.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and most of the people who inhabited Soho 12:56.700 --> 12:59.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% had no responsibilities whatsoever. 12:59.500 --> 13:01.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% They were irresponsible in the extreme. 13:01.966 --> 13:05.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So once we got married, we saw less of Soho 13:05.900 --> 13:09.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and things changed, Soho changed quite a bit. 13:09.833 --> 13:12.933 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% (chilled jazz music) 13:17.700 --> 13:20.433 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% (romantic music) 13:33.800 --> 13:35.466 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% When I was living in London 13:35.466 --> 13:40.466 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and I had met and married my first wife, Stephanie, 13:41.666 --> 13:44.666 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% I was interested in filming at that time 13:44.666 --> 13:48.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and I had the opportunity to buy 60 millimeter Bolex 13:48.866 --> 13:50.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and we were reading his letters 13:50.666 --> 13:53.866 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and I don't know if you ever read Van Gogh's letters, 13:53.866 --> 13:57.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% but they're very, very informative, very beautiful. 13:57.633 --> 14:00.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% My late wife and I were reading those letters and we thought 14:00.833 --> 14:05.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% wouldn't it be great to film the Van Gogh area 14:06.966 --> 14:09.666 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and for commentary, use the letters 14:09.666 --> 14:14.233 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% and being very ambitious at the time, 14:14.233 --> 14:16.766 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% we thought the perfect person to read them 14:16.766 --> 14:18.800 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% would be a Burton. 14:18.800 --> 14:21.066 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% So we thought Richard Burton. 14:21.066 --> 14:24.266 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% So well that's great, we've got Van Gogh's letters 14:24.266 --> 14:26.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and we'll ask Richard Burton to read them 14:26.200 --> 14:27.700 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% and we'll go and film. 14:27.700 --> 14:30.000 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% You know, it sounded like a wonderful idea, you know, 14:30.000 --> 14:33.366 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and I've got the camera, the trouble is, 14:35.133 --> 14:39.300 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% I soon have realized that a reel of film, 14:39.300 --> 14:43.366 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% 'cause 60 millimeter, a reel of film cost at that time, 14:43.366 --> 14:46.200 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% three pounds, three pounds in those days 14:46.200 --> 14:48.033 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% was quite a lot of money 14:48.033 --> 14:51.000 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and that lasted for something like three minutes, 14:51.000 --> 14:52.866 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% a film, something like that 14:52.866 --> 14:54.233 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% and I thought, you know, 14:54.233 --> 14:56.866 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I mean this is really gonna get costly. 14:56.866 --> 14:59.866 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% (bright music ends) 15:05.800 --> 15:08.633 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% (whimsical music) 15:32.800 --> 15:37.533 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% We drove down to South France and we started filming. 15:37.533 --> 15:40.700 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% There were people picking grapes, 15:40.700 --> 15:44.000 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% french ladies with their straw hats 15:44.000 --> 15:47.066 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and picking grapes and that was a start 15:47.066 --> 15:48.800 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% and I was just getting into it 15:48.800 --> 15:50.800 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and of course there were times my finger 15:50.800 --> 15:53.933 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% was in front of the lens and (laughs) 15:53.933 --> 15:55.533 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% it was really terrible. 15:55.533 --> 15:58.366 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% (mid-tempo music) 16:20.600 --> 16:21.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% The one good thing had happened, 16:21.833 --> 16:24.233 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and I don't know if you saw 'em there, 16:24.233 --> 16:29.233 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% but one good thing was that we decided to go to Tarascon 16:30.466 --> 16:34.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% where Van Gogh went to to the asylum there. 16:35.466 --> 16:36.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It was, as you say, a hospital, 16:36.866 --> 16:41.733 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% at that time it was a hospital run by nuns 16:43.200 --> 16:46.466 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and we thought we'd go on at least film around that area, 16:46.466 --> 16:48.066 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% but when we got there, 16:48.066 --> 16:50.366 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% we realized that it was being demolished 16:50.366 --> 16:52.133 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% by a group of Italian walkers, 16:52.133 --> 16:55.100 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% 'cause we were, when we got there, we could see the, 16:55.100 --> 16:57.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% listen to the Italians, they're all sitting 16:57.066 --> 16:59.966 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% around having lunch, talking Italian 16:59.966 --> 17:03.866 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and we thought, wow, you know, the nuns have gone. 17:03.866 --> 17:06.800 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Maybe we could get inside, so we did. 17:08.266 --> 17:10.866 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% the workers didn't see her, they were all sitting together. 17:10.866 --> 17:14.633 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% We went around the garden, got in through another gate, 17:14.633 --> 17:19.466 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% got into the asylum itself, the hospital asylum 17:19.466 --> 17:24.466 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and I photographed parts of the grounds of the asylum 17:25.966 --> 17:28.833 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% where the wall was, it appears in several of his paintings 17:28.833 --> 17:32.733 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% the wall around the Saint-Remy Asylum 17:32.733 --> 17:35.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and I got into the area of where 17:35.166 --> 17:39.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% they kept people behind bars when they were really 17:41.366 --> 17:44.000 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% out of their minds and I know Van Gogh 17:44.000 --> 17:48.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% for a period of time was locked up behind bars 17:48.400 --> 17:51.933 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% and so I got to one of those cells 17:51.933 --> 17:56.600 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and it was wonderful because through the barred window, 17:56.600 --> 18:00.833 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% you could see olive trees and it was so Van Gogh, you know? 18:00.833 --> 18:05.900 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And so I filmed that and when I got home 18:06.766 --> 18:07.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and looked at everything I had, 18:07.933 --> 18:11.733 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% I was not nearly enough to make a movie 18:11.733 --> 18:15.766 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and the cost was getting too much 18:15.766 --> 18:18.866 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and I thought one day I'll put it all together, 18:18.866 --> 18:20.233 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% but I never did. 18:20.233 --> 18:22.666 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% I just kept that raw footage and still have it. 18:24.400 --> 18:27.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% We would live in London in a small bed sitter, 18:28.700 --> 18:32.300 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% she was getting a newspaper from the States 18:32.300 --> 18:37.133 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and saw this ad for a farmhouse in Maine 18:37.133 --> 18:40.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% with a hundred acres for $4,000. 18:40.933 --> 18:45.933 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% So in spur of the moment, we decided to pack up and leave 18:47.333 --> 18:51.933 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and I think within a week we had given up our jobs, 18:53.466 --> 18:55.000 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% packed everything we had, 18:57.433 --> 19:00.400 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% we traveled in great style 19:00.400 --> 19:04.666 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% across Atlantic on the SSU United States. 19:04.666 --> 19:07.233 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (somber music) 19:23.566 --> 19:27.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% When we went to see this place that was advertised, 19:27.833 --> 19:32.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% it was out by Skowhegan and it was April, actually, 19:32.633 --> 19:34.166 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% it was April, I remember. 19:34.166 --> 19:38.066 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% When we got to Skowhegan, there was snow on the ground. 19:38.066 --> 19:41.566 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% It was so miserable looking, there was snow everywhere 19:41.566 --> 19:44.066 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and this building, when we got to it 19:44.066 --> 19:47.133 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% was an old Maine farmhouse, 19:47.133 --> 19:50.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and it looked like the roof was giving away 19:50.200 --> 19:54.900 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and we just decided without getting outta the car, 19:54.900 --> 19:56.300 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% having traveled all this way, 19:56.300 --> 19:57.800 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% we didn't even get outta the car, 19:57.800 --> 20:01.166 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% we said, "Drive on, let's drive on." 20:01.166 --> 20:04.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% We're not going, not even gonna consider this place. 20:04.766 --> 20:07.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It was a dream, suddenly came to and abrupt end, 20:07.633 --> 20:10.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% but we ended up late at night in Milbridge 20:11.666 --> 20:14.300 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% and so we went to a store, 20:14.300 --> 20:16.766 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% or the store that was open there, 20:16.766 --> 20:19.966 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and we asked, was it anywhere where we could stay? 20:19.966 --> 20:22.100 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Was a hotel or anything? 20:22.100 --> 20:25.533 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And they said there wasn't a hotel in town, 20:25.533 --> 20:30.533 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% but then she knew someone who has an A-frame on the water 20:31.600 --> 20:33.266 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and they rent it out, and it's April, 20:33.266 --> 20:34.966 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% I'm sure you couldn't have it. 20:34.966 --> 20:37.633 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% So she called up this person 20:37.633 --> 20:39.433 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and said, "Fine, they can use it" 20:39.433 --> 20:41.500 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and then at night, it was dark at night. 20:41.500 --> 20:44.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I remember going down to Tom Layton point, 20:44.633 --> 20:47.933 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% it was on the water, next morning I got up 20:47.933 --> 20:52.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and went onto the deck and I can't tell you 20:52.366 --> 20:54.000 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% how beautiful it was. 20:54.000 --> 20:57.800 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% It was the most beautiful morning I've ever had in Maine. 20:57.800 --> 21:01.166 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% The sun was shining from a cloudless sky, 21:01.166 --> 21:02.900 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% not a breath of wind. 21:02.900 --> 21:06.900 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% There were lobster was churning offshore. 21:06.900 --> 21:10.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% You could listen to that lovely noise of the engines, 21:10.000 --> 21:14.033 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% gulls squawking, I thought, this is paradise. 21:14.033 --> 21:17.300 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% I'm never leaving Maine and I never have. 21:17.300 --> 21:19.966 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (gentle music) 21:29.600 --> 21:31.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% When I get that feeling of getting ready 21:31.933 --> 21:35.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and have a vague notion of what I want to do, 21:35.633 --> 21:36.800 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% I start painting. 21:38.366 --> 21:41.133 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% The painting itself, 21:41.133 --> 21:45.066 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% I know from the beginning will never turn out 21:45.066 --> 21:46.366 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% the way I imagined it to, 21:47.833 --> 21:52.233 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% because it's going to evolve in its own organic state. 21:53.666 --> 21:58.400 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% It'll grow in its own way. I am like a vehicle to it. 21:59.666 --> 22:01.766 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% I am merely holding the brush, but is it, 22:01.766 --> 22:05.433 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% the painting is beginning to determine what's going to, 22:05.433 --> 22:07.433 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% how it's going to end up. 22:07.433 --> 22:12.433 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% So a painting which I start will very often change 22:13.666 --> 22:16.766 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% multiple times during the course of painting, 22:16.766 --> 22:21.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% until it finally settles in what it wants to be, 22:21.233 --> 22:23.133 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% not so much what I want it to be, 22:23.133 --> 22:24.133 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% to a certain extent, of course 22:24.133 --> 22:26.066 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% that's why I want it to be, 22:26.066 --> 22:31.066 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% but a painting will determine whether it is right or wrong 22:31.833 --> 22:33.133 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% on its own, you know? 22:33.133 --> 22:35.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And you can tell at some point in the painting, 22:35.166 --> 22:37.166 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% you can say, yes, 22:37.166 --> 22:41.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% it's a, it expresses what I wanted to express. 22:41.433 --> 22:43.066 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% It's there on its own. 22:45.733 --> 22:47.066 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% I don't have to touch it. 22:47.066 --> 22:49.666 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% It lives, it lives now on the canvas. 22:51.766 --> 22:56.500 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% It's a process and it's a journey for 22:58.000 --> 23:00.733 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% you are led rather than you're leading, 23:00.733 --> 23:04.666 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% you are led and eventually you get to where you wanna go 23:04.666 --> 23:09.466 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% or you don't, you know, and sometimes you just get lost, 23:10.700 --> 23:13.233 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% less so now than before, 23:13.233 --> 23:18.233 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% because now I know the terrain better so that wherever I go, 23:20.966 --> 23:25.100 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% I've got a better knowledge of arriving. 23:25.100 --> 23:27.766 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (gentle music) 23:30.633 --> 23:34.066 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% You know, it's like, well, Picasso expressed it perfectly 23:34.066 --> 23:37.833 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% when he says, "I do not seek, I find" 23:37.833 --> 23:38.866 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% and that to me is true. 23:38.866 --> 23:41.166 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% You don't seek, you find. 23:42.400 --> 23:44.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Good art, great art is discovery, you know, 23:46.300 --> 23:48.800 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and it's a very rare thing, you know, 23:48.800 --> 23:53.066 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and I'm not saying that I can do it. 23:53.066 --> 23:55.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I try to do it, is all I can say, I try to find, 23:57.200 --> 24:02.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but that to me that, all great art is a discovery 24:03.300 --> 24:04.933 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and all great art lives on its own. 24:07.700 --> 24:12.333 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% You can look at a Cezanne or Van Gogh or Rembrandt, 24:12.333 --> 24:14.933 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% and it's is fresh and lively 24:14.933 --> 24:17.766 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and important as the day it was painted. 24:17.766 --> 24:21.166 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% It exists no different from the day it was painted. 24:21.166 --> 24:26.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It has that strength and life that it had given, 24:27.033 --> 24:28.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% you know, by whoever created it. 24:28.566 --> 24:31.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It's still there strong as ever 24:31.200 --> 24:33.500 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and that to me is a great work of art. 24:33.500 --> 24:36.166 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (gentle music) 24:41.500 --> 24:46.500 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% An artist who is able to communicate with another person 24:47.933 --> 24:52.300 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% is communicating his, what he feels through his senses. 24:53.800 --> 24:55.766 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% He's communicating that, 24:55.766 --> 25:00.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but maybe in that sense is autobiographical. 25:00.733 --> 25:02.633 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% It's all to do with your, 25:02.633 --> 25:05.666 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% what it is that makes you spiritually alive. 25:05.666 --> 25:10.266 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% How you feel alive at this moment, at this time 25:10.266 --> 25:14.666 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and you can, and a onlooker can tap into that 25:14.666 --> 25:17.733 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and get the experience that person had. 25:17.733 --> 25:22.033 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% You know, that's, it's that ability to transmit 25:23.566 --> 25:26.066 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% how you feel to a onlooker 25:26.066 --> 25:30.866 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% and how we can react to this, that is important or not, 25:30.866 --> 25:33.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% it's not just something pretty you hang up. 25:33.266 --> 25:35.866 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (somber music) 25:45.500 --> 25:47.966 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Going back to the Van Gogh, when he stood in front 25:47.966 --> 25:52.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% of those waving trees and felt the wind in his face, 25:54.200 --> 25:56.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% you can feel that wind, you can see that tree, 25:56.500 --> 26:00.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% you can be there, you can feel exactly how Van Gogh felt 26:00.866 --> 26:02.900 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% when he set up his easel to paint it, 26:02.900 --> 26:05.133 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% he brought you right into his senses, 26:06.300 --> 26:09.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% into his whole spiritual being. 26:09.266 --> 26:11.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% That to me is great art, when you can do that, 26:11.833 --> 26:13.533 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% when a painter can do that for you 26:15.233 --> 26:19.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and that's when you know you've done a successful painting 26:19.500 --> 26:22.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% when the painting tells you, "Leave me alone, 26:22.866 --> 26:24.366 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% I'm a living thing" and it is. 26:25.400 --> 26:28.000 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (somber music) 26:38.766 --> 26:42.633 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Her mother died of breast cancer, 26:42.633 --> 26:45.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% so there was a history of breast cancer in the family. 26:47.200 --> 26:50.333 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% It still came, of course, as a terrible shock 26:50.333 --> 26:55.166 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% when she had a test and found that she had breast cancer. 26:57.266 --> 26:59.266 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% We were living in Blue Hill at the time. 27:00.433 --> 27:03.066 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% We went to the doctor's in Bangor 27:03.066 --> 27:07.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and he suggested with surgery she'd be all right. 27:07.633 --> 27:10.333 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% So she went to Boston, had surgery, 27:12.566 --> 27:16.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% it seemed fine now, but less than two years passed 27:16.800 --> 27:19.066 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% when she got ill again, 27:19.066 --> 27:22.233 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% (poignant music) 27:22.233 --> 27:27.233 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% she died within about four months of the second occurrence. 27:27.833 --> 27:30.466 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% (poignant music) 27:45.400 --> 27:49.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I couldn't stay in Maine after what had happened. 27:49.133 --> 27:52.666 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% I did actually go back and stayed with my mother and father 27:52.666 --> 27:57.166 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% for about two months and I realized even though I was home, 27:57.166 --> 28:02.166 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% it was my home town, Troon, I realized that 28:03.366 --> 28:06.833 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% this was not my place, it wasn't for me, 28:06.833 --> 28:11.833 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% that I had left my life in Maine and I had to return there. 28:12.900 --> 28:14.466 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% It was where I had to paint 28:14.466 --> 28:17.666 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and where I had to continue my life again. 28:17.666 --> 28:20.166 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% So after two months of being in Britain, 28:21.633 --> 28:26.400 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% I came back to Maine and I continued living in Blue Hill. 28:30.266 --> 28:32.200 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% I was working very hard. 28:32.200 --> 28:35.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I had several galleries and shows going on 28:35.933 --> 28:40.933 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and that kept me from, well, from from breaking down. 28:43.133 --> 28:48.000 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% I kept working and my painting was my crutch 28:48.000 --> 28:49.433 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% and then the painting 28:49.433 --> 28:51.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% was what really saw me through that terrible time. 28:52.533 --> 28:55.266 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% (poignant music) 29:21.866 --> 29:25.700 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% - William Irvine's style of art is based in expressionism. 29:25.700 --> 29:28.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% So he isn't interested in representation, 29:28.700 --> 29:31.800 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% he's more interested in the feeling that, 29:31.800 --> 29:34.166 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% or the emotion that somebody's gonna respond to 29:34.166 --> 29:35.533 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% when they look at his work. 29:49.366 --> 29:53.633 align:left position:27.5% line:77% size:62.5% He doesn't get rid of representational objects completely. 29:53.633 --> 29:57.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It's important to Bill that he keeps them in there 29:57.400 --> 30:00.100 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% to bring his audience in. 30:00.100 --> 30:01.366 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% There's enough reality 30:01.366 --> 30:03.966 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% so that his interpretation is believable. 30:05.766 --> 30:08.800 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% He's getting rid of the logic, you know? 30:08.800 --> 30:11.633 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% 'Cause when you get focused on the logic, 30:11.633 --> 30:13.566 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% you're not in touch with your emotions. 30:17.700 --> 30:21.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% That's what his goal is in making his paintings 30:21.333 --> 30:25.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and he's mentioned that famous quote before 30:25.100 --> 30:28.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% about how the principle of art is not to portray, 30:28.800 --> 30:31.966 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% but to evoke and that's really the basis 30:31.966 --> 30:33.900 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% of what all his painting is about. 30:42.466 --> 30:45.900 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% - A friend knew that I was interested in playing poker 30:45.900 --> 30:48.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and said, oh, you gotta join Bill and Marge 30:48.733 --> 30:52.266 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% in a local friendly poker game 30:52.266 --> 30:57.233 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and that was about 20 years ago, so we became poker buddies. 30:58.333 --> 30:59.700 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% Bill is a very good poker player, 30:59.700 --> 31:03.133 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and I learned a lot just by playing with him 31:03.133 --> 31:07.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and it's probably more about the great food 31:07.500 --> 31:10.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and the camaraderie than it actually is the card. 31:12.566 --> 31:16.366 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% It took us about two or three years of making work together 31:16.366 --> 31:19.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% before we actually got some finished pieces 31:19.233 --> 31:21.266 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% that we felt good about. 31:23.000 --> 31:25.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% The process of actually painting 31:25.300 --> 31:28.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% on porcelain clay is difficult. 31:28.766 --> 31:30.800 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% There's reasons historically I think 31:30.800 --> 31:33.366 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% why people use blue and white 31:33.366 --> 31:36.566 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% or very specific colors with ceramics, 31:36.566 --> 31:40.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% because they're a little bit easier than others. 31:40.266 --> 31:45.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Bill's color choices, he wanted access to every color 31:46.466 --> 31:48.200 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% that's in the crayon box, if you will. 31:52.733 --> 31:54.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% - [William] Thinking of Picasso pottering, 31:54.133 --> 31:56.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I thought maybe I could do something like that. 31:56.433 --> 32:00.133 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Well, I didn't actually, but that's how we got started. 32:03.600 --> 32:07.400 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% An interesting, quite exciting addition to what I do, 32:07.400 --> 32:11.566 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% it's not a direct offshoot of my painting. 32:11.566 --> 32:14.066 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% It's really a kind of addition to my painting. 32:17.733 --> 32:20.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% You have to imagine how it's going to come out 32:20.900 --> 32:23.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% because the colors don't come out exactly the way 32:23.200 --> 32:27.333 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% in which you put them on, to change somewhat in the firing. 32:27.333 --> 32:29.300 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% So you have to have a certain knowledge 32:29.300 --> 32:31.566 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% of how the glaze is going to turn out 32:32.666 --> 32:34.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and sometimes you miscalculate, 32:34.466 --> 32:37.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I did that once, I was a miscalculate once. 32:37.700 --> 32:40.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I thought I would do it putting on a gray, 32:40.433 --> 32:44.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but when it's fired, it came out a pale green, 32:44.633 --> 32:47.833 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and it completely and totally ruined my pots 32:47.833 --> 32:50.433 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% as far as I'm concerned, actual fact, 32:50.433 --> 32:53.966 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% some of them sold actually, but I never liked those pots 32:53.966 --> 32:57.066 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% because the green was supposed to be gray 32:57.066 --> 33:00.666 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and it disturbed the whole color combination for me, 33:00.666 --> 33:02.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but that's what happens, you have to be careful, 33:02.966 --> 33:04.566 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% get to know what you're doing. 33:12.033 --> 33:16.500 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% - When I really think of what I've contributed to ceramics 33:16.500 --> 33:20.033 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% is I love color and I love glazing, 33:20.033 --> 33:22.500 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and I get my colors really through the application 33:22.500 --> 33:23.966 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% of one glaze over another, 33:23.966 --> 33:27.033 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% like a clear glaze over an opaque glaze 33:27.033 --> 33:31.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% or translucent glazes underneath a transparent glaze. 33:31.333 --> 33:34.500 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% So I get a lot of depth in my color 33:34.500 --> 33:35.766 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% through my own work. 33:37.666 --> 33:40.233 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Bill, you know, he's really going for 33:40.233 --> 33:43.566 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% a real painterly surface on that pot. 33:43.566 --> 33:45.666 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% So yes, he does challenge me 33:45.666 --> 33:49.000 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and I've had, (chuckles) he'd love to work larger, 33:49.000 --> 33:50.400 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% large porcelain plates, 33:50.400 --> 33:52.600 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% most of the time when we made really large plates, 33:52.600 --> 33:53.900 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% they've cracked. 33:53.900 --> 33:56.266 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% It's just not a clay that wants to be big. 33:56.266 --> 34:00.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It's not that difficult, I think in his world 34:00.133 --> 34:02.633 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% to have canvases that are really big 34:02.633 --> 34:06.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and to, you know, tackle big canvases and ceramics, 34:06.000 --> 34:08.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% it's so hard and we lose so many 34:08.966 --> 34:11.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% as you incrementally get bigger 34:14.233 --> 34:15.866 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% and Bill does challenge me, 34:15.866 --> 34:18.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but I think of it mostly as in poker (chuckles) 34:18.900 --> 34:21.600 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% than actually making the artwork. 34:21.600 --> 34:26.233 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% I feel like now we've got a pretty simple way of, 34:26.233 --> 34:28.466 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% you know, getting the things that we need 34:28.466 --> 34:32.666 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and we're still exploring all the different things 34:32.666 --> 34:35.733 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% that we can do with color and layers of color. 34:40.033 --> 34:43.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Quite often we do kiln openings with other people present 34:43.700 --> 34:46.666 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and so, you know, once in a while we get a bad one 34:46.666 --> 34:48.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and kind of like hide it off to the side 34:48.433 --> 34:49.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% as it's coming out of the kiln, 34:49.566 --> 34:51.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% but there's been no greater joy 34:51.600 --> 34:53.066 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% than to actually share it with people 34:53.066 --> 34:55.466 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% who admire Bill and his work. 34:55.466 --> 34:58.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% You know, the pots come alive in that moment 34:58.466 --> 35:00.133 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% when they come out of the kiln 35:00.133 --> 35:03.200 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and if we're careful with those pieces, you know, 35:03.200 --> 35:06.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% they still could be here 10,000 years from now. 35:06.600 --> 35:08.133 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% You know, there is a timelessness 35:08.133 --> 35:10.433 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% about the porcelain ceramics 35:10.433 --> 35:15.033 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% that certainly could far outlive any of his paintings. 35:17.366 --> 35:20.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Those images, unless they get scratched or something 35:20.500 --> 35:23.933 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% on the surface, those images will be a part 35:23.933 --> 35:28.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% of Bill's history and certainly my history too. 35:31.333 --> 35:34.533 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% - Well, it's an extraordinary correspondence, 35:34.533 --> 35:37.566 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% it spans decades. 35:37.566 --> 35:39.400 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% So the whole time they were separated, 35:39.400 --> 35:40.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% they were writing to one another 35:40.966 --> 35:44.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and they would write not only about their work, 35:44.000 --> 35:47.833 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% about their process, about where they were showing, 35:47.833 --> 35:51.400 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% what they were selling, but they would also write about art 35:51.400 --> 35:53.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and what was happening on the art scene 35:53.666 --> 35:56.366 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% and some of the painters that they knew. 35:56.366 --> 35:59.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It's a really incredible correspondence. 36:03.933 --> 36:08.933 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% They saw things through the same eyes in a lot of ways 36:09.800 --> 36:13.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and they were very, very close. 36:13.733 --> 36:16.500 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% (poignant music) 36:30.800 --> 36:33.400 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% - Blue Hill, August the 28th, 1990. 36:35.966 --> 36:40.700 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% "Dear Bill, I got a fright when I saw your letter headed 36:40.700 --> 36:43.166 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% 'Ban free hospital.' 36:43.166 --> 36:46.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Please no more letters from hospitals. 36:46.900 --> 36:50.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Write to me when you're drunk on Andalusian wine, 36:50.366 --> 36:53.766 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% sentimental before a Scottish fire, 36:53.766 --> 36:57.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% boisterous in Ballydehob but no more letters 36:57.466 --> 36:58.533 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% from room four. 36:59.600 --> 37:02.933 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% I want you to live as long as me. 37:02.933 --> 37:07.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% No longer, but as long, but enough of this, 37:08.800 --> 37:10.533 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% we have 10,000 days to live. 37:10.533 --> 37:14.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% A thousand paintings to paint you at least 2000 37:14.233 --> 37:15.600 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% for your more prolific. 37:16.466 --> 37:18.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Thank you for the fine catalog. 37:18.966 --> 37:23.900 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% It was good to see the Troon paintings, the girls of Togs. 37:23.900 --> 37:28.700 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% I almost heard the Saturday dance music from the town hall. 37:28.700 --> 37:33.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Moonlight on the shore, shadows under the railway bridge, 37:33.500 --> 37:38.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% love and longing, Frida Kahlos, good days at Ballast bank." 37:39.133 --> 37:41.100 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (somber music) 37:48.033 --> 37:52.500 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Blue Hill, January the third, 1984. 37:54.966 --> 37:57.266 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% "It's late on a summer night 37:57.266 --> 38:00.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% with June bogs banging against the dark pens 38:00.666 --> 38:03.500 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and cries of agony from the woods. 38:04.600 --> 38:06.800 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% Stephanie is away on a trip 38:06.800 --> 38:10.066 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% and I am by the typewriter with a wee fire 38:10.066 --> 38:13.766 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and a Pina Colada to water off the damp. 38:13.766 --> 38:18.700 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Over here, it is summer again, but haven't yet thought out. 38:18.700 --> 38:20.766 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% The juices are still to flow. 38:22.100 --> 38:24.966 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% It's hard to start again, still up, yet energy, 38:24.966 --> 38:28.133 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% which was so easy in those early Scottish days. 38:28.133 --> 38:31.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% A walk by the beach, under a railroad bridge 38:31.366 --> 38:34.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% coffee at Togs was all it took. 38:34.333 --> 38:39.333 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Last night I thought of an old friend of yours, John Aldous, 38:40.566 --> 38:42.833 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% who once did a rather nice painting of Wales. 38:42.833 --> 38:46.566 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% I'm having a studio built at my cottage by the sea. 38:46.566 --> 38:48.566 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% It'll be finished in another two weeks 38:48.566 --> 38:49.966 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% with skylights and all. 38:49.966 --> 38:53.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% There is a single window which looks across the ocean 38:53.166 --> 38:54.766 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% to small islands. 38:54.766 --> 38:57.033 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% No junk will be permitted. 38:57.033 --> 39:01.100 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% No temporary refuge for unwanted furniture. 39:01.100 --> 39:05.266 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Just a nice clean room with a dancing colors. 39:05.266 --> 39:08.866 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% There I will do the definitive rooms. 39:08.866 --> 39:12.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% My Ayrshire legacy to Americans. 39:12.300 --> 39:14.266 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% So how's everything with you? 39:14.266 --> 39:17.666 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Send me a letter, a postcard, write me a poem." 39:17.666 --> 39:20.233 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (somber music) 39:37.266 --> 39:41.466 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I do miss him. I miss him a lot actually. 39:42.800 --> 39:47.300 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Not, I miss the letters that we and I miss not write, 39:49.033 --> 39:51.933 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% being able to write to someone about art 39:51.933 --> 39:54.233 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% the way I did with Bill. 39:54.233 --> 39:57.933 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% You know, we'd always write about our art, you know, 39:59.133 --> 40:00.433 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% to a certain extent 40:00.433 --> 40:01.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% what we were doing and that sort of thing, 40:01.600 --> 40:03.533 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% but we wrote about art 40:03.533 --> 40:07.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and I would know exactly what he was doing 40:07.100 --> 40:11.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and he would send me photographs of his work or catalogs. 40:11.333 --> 40:13.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I have several catalogs that he sent me, 40:13.533 --> 40:18.300 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% he even sent me a tea towel with my name on it, 40:18.300 --> 40:23.300 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% but anyhow, so I do miss not having someone 40:24.166 --> 40:28.366 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% that I can write about art, 40:29.800 --> 40:33.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% about my paintings and of course his paintings through me. 40:33.733 --> 40:37.266 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% He had a big opening, 40:37.266 --> 40:39.300 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% I don't know if I mentioned this other, 40:39.300 --> 40:44.266 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% but the last time I saw him, he had a opening in London 40:45.500 --> 40:47.633 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% at a major gallery, the Flowers Gallery 40:47.633 --> 40:52.600 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% and he asked me if I would go over to the opening and I did 40:54.800 --> 40:59.133 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and there was a marvelous opening 40:59.133 --> 41:03.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and I met some of the friends that he knew 41:03.633 --> 41:06.633 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% that I hadn't seen in a long time 41:06.633 --> 41:11.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and afterwards we went to the Groucho Marx, 41:12.500 --> 41:14.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% the Groucho Marx Club in London, 41:14.066 --> 41:18.900 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% which is well known for its famous people 41:18.900 --> 41:23.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and so I had a marvelous several days in London with him. 41:26.533 --> 41:31.533 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Then as I say, then I left and never got back to London 41:33.533 --> 41:38.466 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% because I lost my passport, couldn't get over. 41:38.466 --> 41:40.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Even when he was dying I would've gone over, 41:40.700 --> 41:42.000 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% but I couldn't do that. 41:43.366 --> 41:45.433 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% So anyhow, that was, 41:45.433 --> 41:50.400 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% that was that. (somber music) 42:14.100 --> 42:19.100 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% This is Blue Hill, January the second, 2008. 42:20.466 --> 42:23.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% "Dear Bill, just a note to wish you and Catherine 42:23.866 --> 42:25.533 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% a happy new year. 42:25.533 --> 42:28.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% How time has flown since I saw you both in London 42:28.966 --> 42:31.733 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and for a grand time I had being with you 42:31.733 --> 42:33.833 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% during those eventful days, 42:33.833 --> 42:36.866 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% seeing Joe again and sharing in the fun. 42:36.866 --> 42:39.433 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Your book arrived a few weeks ago. 42:39.433 --> 42:43.033 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% I have spent many days pouring over it. 42:43.033 --> 42:45.433 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% It is a grand book, finesse 42:45.433 --> 42:47.466 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% and the best reproduction of color 42:47.466 --> 42:49.833 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% I have seen in an art book. 42:49.833 --> 42:51.600 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% That photo of you with the paintings 42:51.600 --> 42:56.433 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% in front of your shed in Troon brought back so much to me 42:56.433 --> 43:00.166 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% of those earlier days when we were just beginning. 43:01.100 --> 43:03.566 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% I loved those paintings. 43:03.566 --> 43:08.566 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Women gathering sea coal, girl in Togs Cafe. 43:09.466 --> 43:10.833 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% They are not massive species, 43:10.833 --> 43:13.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but they do contain all the excitement of someone 43:13.800 --> 43:16.433 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% who has discovered the mystery of art. 43:16.433 --> 43:21.433 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% The alchemy to change life into shapes and colors. 43:22.800 --> 43:26.066 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% It's all there, the genesis of a life's obsession. 43:28.800 --> 43:31.700 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% We are having the snowiest winter ever here. 43:31.700 --> 43:33.933 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% It has snowed every day in December 43:33.933 --> 43:37.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and the bloody landscape looks like a grand mimosa. 43:37.366 --> 43:39.566 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% My studio window is blinkered in snow. 43:40.600 --> 43:42.366 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% I've lost my wood pile. 43:42.366 --> 43:45.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% The cat won't go out and has threatened suicide 43:45.533 --> 43:50.366 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% unless I bring the grass back, which won't be until April. 43:51.566 --> 43:54.266 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% On the other hand, this confinement has produced 43:54.266 --> 43:56.800 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% a burst of energy in my painting. 43:56.800 --> 43:59.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% New ideas, getting away from the constraints 43:59.666 --> 44:02.366 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% of familiar and comfortable subjects. 44:02.366 --> 44:06.100 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% I'm not sure where all this is leading, but it feels right 44:06.100 --> 44:10.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and at my extreme age, I can do whatever I like. 44:10.266 --> 44:13.533 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% None of this makes much sense unless I send you photos, 44:13.533 --> 44:14.700 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% but I will in time. 44:16.000 --> 44:19.233 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% It is this exploration of that personal mythology 44:19.233 --> 44:21.033 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% that defines us. 44:21.033 --> 44:24.333 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% For us, who've been painting over half a century, 44:24.333 --> 44:28.266 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% there is no such thing as originality. 44:28.266 --> 44:32.400 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% We rework our poems to make them clearer. 44:32.400 --> 44:35.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% That's why Crozier's are so easily recognized, 44:35.766 --> 44:39.800 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% even when they appear upside down in auction catalogs, 44:40.900 --> 44:45.166 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% an early Essex landscape for instance. 44:45.166 --> 44:49.666 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% What I mean is though all the work is original to others, 44:49.666 --> 44:52.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% to ourselves, we cannot change." 44:52.766 --> 44:55.366 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (somber music) 46:03.333 --> 46:05.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% The thing about a thing that's outta reach 46:05.700 --> 46:10.700 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% is that that final painting you never reach, 46:11.533 --> 46:12.633 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% it's always out of reach. 46:12.633 --> 46:15.666 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% All you can do is try to reach it, 46:15.666 --> 46:17.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% that's the process of painting. 46:17.766 --> 46:19.766 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% No artist in his right mind 46:19.766 --> 46:23.633 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% will ever do the perfect painting and stop painting, 46:23.633 --> 46:25.066 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% 'cause that's it. 46:25.066 --> 46:27.666 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% It's a search for the perfect painting 46:27.666 --> 46:31.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% that keeps an artist going, all artists going. 46:31.333 --> 46:35.066 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% It's that, it's a search that's important, 46:35.066 --> 46:38.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% you know, wanting to get there, 46:38.233 --> 46:40.966 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% but knowing you'll never get there, 46:42.300 --> 46:45.466 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% because you're always looking for that painting 46:45.466 --> 46:47.066 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% beyond the one you're doing. 46:50.633 --> 46:55.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Every artist is born with a small set of poems 46:55.433 --> 46:59.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and it's the exploration of that personal mythology 46:59.800 --> 47:02.266 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% that defines him as an artist 47:02.266 --> 47:06.800 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and I feel that real artists are born 47:06.800 --> 47:09.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% with a certain number of things 47:10.066 --> 47:12.866 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% they wish to express. 47:12.866 --> 47:17.733 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Perhaps their own personality, their own take on life. 47:19.466 --> 47:24.466 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% They have that and it's very personal and you can explore, 47:26.900 --> 47:29.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% an artist like that can explore 47:29.266 --> 47:32.366 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% as many wild thoughts and ideas as possible, 47:32.366 --> 47:36.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but he's always confined to those personal poems 47:36.266 --> 47:37.766 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% that he was born with. 47:39.000 --> 47:42.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% You cannot go outside yourself completely, 47:42.433 --> 47:44.366 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% no matter how much you try. 47:44.366 --> 47:47.766 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% You'll always be yourself as a painter. 47:47.766 --> 47:49.100 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% If you're a good painter, 47:49.100 --> 47:51.500 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% you will be true to yourself always. 47:51.500 --> 47:54.066 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (bright music) 48:21.033 --> 48:24.433 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% (bright music continues) 48:51.100 --> 48:54.500 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% (bright music continues) 49:21.033 --> 49:24.466 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% (bright music continues) 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