WEBVTT 00:01.133 --> 00:03.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Narrator> Making It Grow is brought to you in part by 00:03.133 --> 00:05.500 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% Certified South Carolina. 00:05.500 --> 00:08.466 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% This cooperative effort among farmers, retailers 00:08.466 --> 00:10.000 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55% and the South Carolina Department 00:10.000 --> 00:12.366 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% of Agriculture helps consumers identify foods 00:12.366 --> 00:15.733 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% and agricultural products that are grown, harvested 00:15.733 --> 00:19.366 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% or raised right here in the Palmetto State. 00:19.366 --> 00:22.633 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% McLeod Farms in McBee, South Carolina, 00:22.633 --> 00:26.133 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% family owned and operated since 1916. 00:26.133 --> 00:28.666 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% This family farm offers seasonal produce, 00:28.666 --> 00:32.433 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% including over 40 varieties of peaches. 00:32.433 --> 00:35.666 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% Wesley Commons, a full service continuing care 00:35.666 --> 00:38.800 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% retirement community located on more than 00:38.800 --> 00:43.833 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% 150 wooded acres in Greenwood, South Carolina. 00:43.833 --> 00:45.866 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% Additional funding provided by 00:45.866 --> 00:48.333 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% the South Carolina Farm Bureau Federation 00:48.333 --> 00:50.866 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% and Farm Bureau Insurance 00:50.866 --> 00:53.866 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% and Boone Hall Farms. 00:55.666 --> 01:03.100 align:left position:50% line:89% size:40% ♪ 01:03.100 --> 01:12.766 align:left position:50% line:89% size:40% ♪ 01:12.766 --> 01:19.566 align:left position:50% line:89% size:40% ♪ 01:19.566 --> 01:20.933 align:left position:50% line:89% size:40% ♪ 01:20.933 --> 01:25.033 align:left position:50% line:89% size:40% ♪ 01:25.033 --> 01:26.800 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Amanda> Well, good evening, and welcome to Making It Grow. 01:26.800 --> 01:28.933 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% We sure are glad you can join us tonight. 01:28.933 --> 01:32.300 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% I'm Amanda McNulty, and I'm a Clemson Extension agent. 01:32.300 --> 01:33.533 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% And I get to come over here 01:33.533 --> 01:37.000 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% with my good friend and co-host Terasa Lott, 01:37.000 --> 01:38.800 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% who's the Midlands district director? 01:38.800 --> 01:40.200 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% I think I got it right that time. 01:40.200 --> 01:42.700 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Terasa> You did, you did. 01:42.700 --> 01:45.166 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% It's sort of a fancy term just to say I oversee 01:45.166 --> 01:48.533 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% operations in nine counties in the heart of the state, 01:48.533 --> 01:52.966 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% but really, it's our staff, that get the shining gold stars 01:52.966 --> 01:54.200 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% because they're the ones 01:54.200 --> 01:56.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% that take the research based information 01:56.166 --> 01:58.300 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% and deliver it to the people that need it. 01:58.300 --> 02:02.100 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Amanda> Yep. And, you know, our admins, 02:02.100 --> 02:04.933 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% they're the people who greet people when they come in. 02:04.933 --> 02:06.400 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% And so often they 02:06.400 --> 02:07.733 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% they've learned how to do everything. 02:07.733 --> 02:09.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% They can do soil test. They know how 02:09.233 --> 02:10.366 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% to send things off. 02:10.366 --> 02:13.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And, they can be great, of great help to people. 02:13.500 --> 02:15.866 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Terasa> Absolutely. They are really the faces 02:15.866 --> 02:20.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% of the Extension office, and do a fantastic job 02:20.033 --> 02:21.366 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% of connecting people 02:21.366 --> 02:24.033 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% with the right agent or the right service. 02:24.033 --> 02:25.966 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% It might be sending something away to 02:25.966 --> 02:28.266 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% our plant pest and diagnostic clinic. 02:28.266 --> 02:31.733 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Amanda> Yeah, yeah, I think, there's 02:31.733 --> 02:34.833 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% a kind of a heart of wanting to help people, don't you? 02:34.833 --> 02:36.266 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% Terasa> Yeah, there is. 02:36.266 --> 02:39.900 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% Amanda> Well, and Dr. Adam Gore. Oh. 02:39.900 --> 02:41.266 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% (laughs) 02:41.266 --> 02:42.333 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% Congratulations. 02:42.333 --> 02:44.866 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Dr. Adam> It took long enough. Thank you. 02:44.866 --> 02:46.033 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% Amanda> Well, you did a lot... 02:46.033 --> 02:47.733 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% you've done more than a lot of us have done. 02:47.733 --> 02:52.200 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% And, you are in Clarendon, Lee and Sumter 02:52.200 --> 02:54.566 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% and the master gardener coordinator. That's a lot. 02:54.566 --> 02:56.066 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% Dr. Adam> Yes, ma'am. Came to Sumter 02:56.066 --> 02:57.733 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% back in August of this past year. 02:57.733 --> 03:00.066 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% Amanda> Well, we're really glad to have you so close back. 03:00.066 --> 03:01.500 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Dr. Adam> Yes, ma'am. Amanda> We really are. 03:01.500 --> 03:03.800 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Yeah. And, you were telling me something 03:03.800 --> 03:06.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% that I had never heard of before. 03:06.800 --> 03:10.133 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% That...when people call you and say they have moles... 03:10.133 --> 03:12.200 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% Dr. Adam> So, lately, 03:12.200 --> 03:13.433 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% everyone loves seeing those 03:13.433 --> 03:15.566 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% tunnels just pop up in their landscape 03:15.566 --> 03:17.200 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% and, walk through them, 03:17.200 --> 03:19.666 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% and suddenly you sink about six inches. 03:19.666 --> 03:22.466 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and whenever I get that call, the very first question I get is 03:22.466 --> 03:23.866 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% ...as odd as it might sound is like, 03:23.866 --> 03:26.100 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% how do you feel about cats? 03:26.100 --> 03:29.466 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% because between all the potential poisons 03:29.466 --> 03:31.600 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% and, you know, getting rid of our food source, 03:31.600 --> 03:34.766 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% the pest control for moles, I found is going to your local 03:34.766 --> 03:38.700 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% humane society and adopting a cat. 03:38.700 --> 03:40.633 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Amanda> Really? So they're just great at catching moles? 03:40.633 --> 03:42.066 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% Dr. Adam> They're great at catching moles. 03:42.066 --> 03:45.866 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% My middle cat is, probably the most effective 03:45.866 --> 03:47.266 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% mole control I've ever seen. 03:47.266 --> 03:50.133 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% We've had her for six months, and she caught four moles 03:50.133 --> 03:51.533 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% Amanda> Whoa! Dr. Adam>-out of our yard 03:51.533 --> 03:53.733 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% She's very talented. And she doesn't tear up 03:53.733 --> 03:55.933 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% large sections to whereas, 03:55.933 --> 03:59.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% my Brittany spaniel has taken over that mantle, and, 03:59.900 --> 04:02.200 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% she just knows there's a mole somewhere, 04:02.200 --> 04:03.700 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% and she's going to find it. 04:03.700 --> 04:05.100 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Amanda> Oh, so you said the cats 04:05.100 --> 04:06.200 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% actually kind of sit there 04:06.200 --> 04:08.833 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and watch to see maybe where the mole is? 04:08.833 --> 04:10.700 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% Dr. Adam> Yes, ma'am. so they'll, 04:10.700 --> 04:12.866 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% they'll wait for, or they'll 04:12.866 --> 04:14.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% find the actual entrance, because moles will actually 04:14.933 --> 04:17.333 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% have a lot of false entrances to their tunnels, 04:17.333 --> 04:19.366 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% but they'll have one main entrance, so they'll, 04:19.366 --> 04:21.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% the cats are smart enough to find that main entrance, 04:21.700 --> 04:24.600 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and they'll just watch for any type of movement and 04:24.600 --> 04:25.666 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% Amanda> Pow! Dr. Adam> And pow! 04:25.666 --> 04:26.900 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% (Amanda laughs) 04:26.900 --> 04:29.066 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Amanda> And then they bring them up and put them on your 04:29.066 --> 04:31.533 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% porch to let you know- Dr. Adam>-I have done my work. 04:31.533 --> 04:33.100 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Where's the treats? Amanda> There you go. 04:33.100 --> 04:34.966 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% Okay. Well, that was weird. 04:34.966 --> 04:37.866 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% (laughs) I've had lots of cats, and I never knew that, 04:37.866 --> 04:39.366 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% that was one of the things. I've had cats 04:39.366 --> 04:40.900 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% that caught things and brought them in the house, 04:40.900 --> 04:42.300 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% but moles are new. 04:42.300 --> 04:44.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And, Christopher, we're so glad that you've joined us. 04:44.500 --> 04:45.800 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% You're the horticulture agent, 04:45.800 --> 04:48.100 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% Berkeley, Dorchester and Charleston. 04:48.100 --> 04:50.133 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% How are your people, doing with this, 04:50.133 --> 04:52.833 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% with the hot weather, and lack of rain that we had? 04:52.833 --> 04:54.533 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% Christopher> I think most everyone's 04:54.533 --> 04:56.666 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% either staying indoors 04:56.666 --> 04:58.166 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% or have gone on vacation because it's been 04:58.166 --> 05:00.300 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% awfully quiet. Though, I'm not complaining. 05:00.300 --> 05:02.500 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Amanda> Yeah, and I wonder if, you know, 05:02.500 --> 05:04.566 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% if the beach water's gotten warm. 05:04.566 --> 05:05.633 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% Christopher> It's pretty warm. 05:05.633 --> 05:06.933 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% Last time I was out there, it's, 05:06.933 --> 05:08.700 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% it's definitely quite warm. 05:08.700 --> 05:10.533 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% And unfortunately, that...tends to mean 05:10.533 --> 05:13.700 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% that you get a lot of animals coming in. 05:13.700 --> 05:15.433 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And so we're getting, of course, a lot of, 05:15.433 --> 05:17.400 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% shark sightings and things like that. 05:17.400 --> 05:19.800 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Amanda> Really? Oh, I didn't know that. Goodness gracious. 05:20.933 --> 05:22.233 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% Not much fun. 05:22.233 --> 05:24.866 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Christopher> No, but, I mean, there's sharks always there. 05:24.866 --> 05:26.000 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% Amanda> Yeah. 05:26.000 --> 05:27.300 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% Christopher> They're usually harmless. 05:27.300 --> 05:29.533 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Amanda> Yeah. I'd sit on top of the pier at Pawleys Island 05:29.533 --> 05:31.666 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% when my brother used to take us there, Terasa 05:31.666 --> 05:34.400 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and watch sharks just swimming between people, 05:34.400 --> 05:36.233 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% kind of vacuum up, look like they're kind 05:36.233 --> 05:38.266 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% of vacuuming on the bottom. Terasa> That's right. 05:38.266 --> 05:40.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I mean, it's...the ocean is their habitat, right? 05:40.933 --> 05:42.466 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% And people are kind of 05:42.466 --> 05:44.900 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% oblivious to the fact that they're there. 05:44.900 --> 05:48.700 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Amanda> It was a little hard to go back in (laughing) 05:48.700 --> 05:49.833 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% but I realized that... 05:49.833 --> 05:51.933 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Well, thanks for coming up and being with us today. 05:51.933 --> 05:57.333 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% And, so, we're going to have some segments for you and, 05:57.333 --> 05:59.500 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Zack Snipes whom you all love so much 05:59.500 --> 06:02.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% went down to Simply Green Blackberries. 06:02.433 --> 06:03.600 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% Everybody loves blackberries. 06:03.600 --> 06:05.966 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% And this gentleman who grows them is a lot of fun 06:05.966 --> 06:07.100 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% and then GrowFood, 06:07.100 --> 06:08.766 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% which is a fascinating, 06:08.766 --> 06:10.900 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% nonprofit down in the Charleston area. 06:10.900 --> 06:13.733 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% I think you'll enjoy both of those a lot. 06:13.733 --> 06:15.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Well, Terasa, did we have some Gardens of the Week 06:15.700 --> 06:16.900 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% or did people just give up 06:16.900 --> 06:19.366 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% when we had all that hot, dry weather? 06:19.366 --> 06:23.133 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Terasa> We have some, steadfast gardeners, it seems. 06:23.133 --> 06:26.700 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And I so look forward to putting out our call 06:26.700 --> 06:28.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% for Gardens of the Week. It's your time to shine. 06:28.966 --> 06:31.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Show us what you're doing in your yard, your garden 06:31.533 --> 06:32.800 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% or a beautiful place. 06:32.800 --> 06:36.200 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% And our state certainly has many of them. 06:36.200 --> 06:39.500 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% So let's see what we have today. 06:39.500 --> 06:42.266 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% We're going to begin with Gail Strong. 06:42.266 --> 06:45.566 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% She's sent us a picture of her backyard pond garden. 06:45.566 --> 06:48.000 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% And she said, it's her little piece of heaven. 06:48.000 --> 06:49.966 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% I can understand why. 06:49.966 --> 06:52.833 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% From Jane Harman, a lush landscaped area 06:52.833 --> 06:55.900 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% full of color in Campobello. 06:55.900 --> 06:59.766 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% Corey Barker shared a passion flower growing in Brambles. 06:59.766 --> 07:02.300 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% He said it's beauty among the thorns. 07:02.300 --> 07:04.433 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% Amanda> (laughs) That's fun. 07:04.433 --> 07:07.700 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% Terasa> From Bunny Sartor, a vibrant patch of bee balm 07:07.700 --> 07:09.666 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% surrounding a bird bath. 07:09.666 --> 07:11.266 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% And last but not least, 07:11.266 --> 07:15.266 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5% we wrap up with Lee Templeton, who shared a front garden 07:15.266 --> 07:19.233 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% bed full of colorful zinnias in Forest Acres. 07:19.233 --> 07:21.166 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50% Remember, these are just a random 07:21.166 --> 07:23.166 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% sampling of photos that were submitted 07:23.166 --> 07:24.866 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% on our Facebook page. 07:24.866 --> 07:27.666 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Whenever you see that call, don't be shy, 07:27.666 --> 07:29.066 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% post your photos in the comments 07:29.066 --> 07:31.500 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% and they might just appear on air. 07:31.500 --> 07:33.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Amanda> And people who are going to the Facebook page 07:33.500 --> 07:35.466 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% can see the other beautiful gardens 07:35.466 --> 07:37.266 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% that people sent pictures of. Terasa> They can. 07:37.266 --> 07:38.933 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% And for me, it's so inspirational. 07:38.933 --> 07:40.533 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% I get ideas and think about things 07:40.533 --> 07:42.466 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% that maybe I want to try in my home or garden. 07:42.466 --> 07:43.733 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% Amanda> Oh good. 07:43.733 --> 07:47.466 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Well, do you think we might be able to help some people 07:47.466 --> 07:48.866 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% with some problems, Terasa? 07:48.866 --> 07:49.966 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% Terasa> I sure hope so. 07:49.966 --> 07:52.266 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% I think that's what Making It Grow is known for. 07:52.266 --> 07:55.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Well, maybe an Extension, as a whole. 07:55.166 --> 07:57.866 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Melinda reached out from Wadmalaw Island. 07:57.866 --> 08:00.666 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% And, oh, this is an interesting question, 08:00.666 --> 08:02.933 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% sort of unique, she said, can scuppernong 08:02.933 --> 08:06.666 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% grape leaves be used to make the Greek dish, 08:06.666 --> 08:09.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% the stuffed grape leaves, Dolmades? 08:11.133 --> 08:12.500 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Amanda> Well, Christopher, what do you think? 08:12.500 --> 08:16.200 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Christopher> So, yes, though there is a big caveat with that. 08:16.200 --> 08:19.266 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% So obviously, a lot of times you use kind of 08:19.266 --> 08:22.833 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% the very large grape leaves that you find in Europe. 08:22.833 --> 08:25.033 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% Unfortunately, the muscadine grape leaves 08:25.033 --> 08:27.000 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% are generally going to be a little bit tougher. 08:27.000 --> 08:29.466 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% And so the best thing to do is- Amanda> -that makes sense, 08:29.466 --> 08:31.000 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% because if they're growing down here in the South, 08:31.000 --> 08:32.600 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% they've got to be tough. 08:32.600 --> 08:33.966 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Christopher> So if you're going to use them, 08:33.966 --> 08:35.933 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% generally the recommendation is to use 08:35.933 --> 08:39.166 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% the smaller, more immature leaves, which unfortunately 08:39.166 --> 08:40.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% can be a little bit tough because they're small. 08:40.766 --> 08:42.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So you have to use a lot more of them, 08:42.466 --> 08:44.066 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% It might be a little bit harder to cook. 08:44.066 --> 08:45.133 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% One alternative 08:45.133 --> 08:48.500 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% you can actually do is use, collard leaves, 08:48.500 --> 08:52.000 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% which is actually something, that has been used 08:52.000 --> 08:54.866 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% in a lot of places in the Middle East where 08:54.866 --> 08:58.033 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% collards are actually from, and you can use those as kind 08:58.033 --> 08:59.600 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% of an alternative to grape leaves. 08:59.600 --> 09:02.533 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Amanda> Well, and we can get collards any time of the year. 09:02.533 --> 09:04.266 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Christopher> Exactly. They grow great down here. 09:04.266 --> 09:05.433 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% Amanda> Yeah, they sure do. Yeah. 09:05.433 --> 09:06.633 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% Well, that was really fun. 09:06.633 --> 09:08.900 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Thank you so much. All right, Mrs. Terasa. 09:10.533 --> 09:12.033 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Terasa> And it has my brain thinking. 09:12.033 --> 09:14.700 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% I'm like, whew, kind of a southern twist 09:14.700 --> 09:16.066 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% on a Greek dish. 09:16.066 --> 09:18.533 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% And maybe I'll have to try that. 09:18.533 --> 09:20.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Amanda> We like to mix cultures, don't we? 09:20.700 --> 09:21.533 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% Terasa> That's right. 09:21.533 --> 09:24.700 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% How about Marie in Manning? 09:24.700 --> 09:27.633 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% She said I just laid sod this week. 09:27.633 --> 09:29.466 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% How often should I be watering it? 09:29.466 --> 09:32.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And what else should I do to take care of it? 09:32.433 --> 09:33.700 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% Amanda> Goodness gracious. 09:33.700 --> 09:36.333 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Well, Adam, you're supposed to be a turf expert. 09:36.333 --> 09:38.200 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% I don't know how in the world she got out there 09:38.200 --> 09:39.333 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% and got all that done. 09:39.333 --> 09:41.100 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Maybe a professional company put it out for her. 09:41.100 --> 09:43.133 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% But, what does she do now, 09:43.133 --> 09:45.033 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% because it really needs to get established? 09:45.033 --> 09:46.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It's got to get its roots in the ground. 09:46.566 --> 09:49.666 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Dr. Adam> Right. So, for our warm season grasses, which 09:49.666 --> 09:52.800 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% I imagine being in Manning, she's dealing with, 09:52.800 --> 09:55.200 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% the two best times to establish 09:55.200 --> 09:58.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% those grasses are either, in mid spring, 09:58.100 --> 10:02.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% so starting around May, or later part of the summer, 10:02.233 --> 10:04.233 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% we don't really like to establish grasses 10:04.233 --> 10:05.933 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% if we can help it in the middle of summer 10:05.933 --> 10:09.700 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% because of what we experienced this year of excessive heat, 10:09.700 --> 10:10.866 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% and dry weather. 10:10.866 --> 10:12.233 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Amanda> So kind of, you could 10:12.233 --> 10:14.733 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% go kind of into what we call fall, used to, 10:14.733 --> 10:15.933 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% but it's still real warm? 10:15.933 --> 10:17.333 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Dr. Adam> Yes, ma'am. Amanda> Yeah, yeah. Okay. 10:17.333 --> 10:18.966 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Dr. Adam> So all we're trying to do 10:18.966 --> 10:21.266 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% is let these grasses have a time 10:21.266 --> 10:24.466 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% to actually peg down or put roots into the ground 10:24.466 --> 10:27.466 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% without having to experience some of the extremes, 10:27.466 --> 10:30.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% whether it be the extreme heat or, 10:30.666 --> 10:33.633 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% the potentially extreme cold that we can get, 10:33.633 --> 10:36.533 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% but to the question of irrigating, 10:36.533 --> 10:40.400 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% So when we're first putting any type of grass down, 10:40.400 --> 10:41.900 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% whether it's seed or sod, 10:41.900 --> 10:44.000 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% soil moisture is critical. Amanda> Yes. 10:44.000 --> 10:45.300 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% >> So we always 10:45.300 --> 10:49.066 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% try to keep, especially with sod, those top two inches moist. 10:49.066 --> 10:50.666 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% So, so not flooded. 10:50.666 --> 10:52.133 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% So you know, you don't want to be 10:52.133 --> 10:55.200 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% walking out there and just have water coming up. 10:55.200 --> 10:58.966 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% I always tell people to use the, the moisture meter 10:58.966 --> 11:01.966 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% that they were given, also called your finger, 11:01.966 --> 11:05.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and stick to the second knuckle, which for most people 11:05.000 --> 11:06.366 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% is about two inches. Amanda> Okay. 11:06.366 --> 11:09.700 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Dr. Adam> And it should feel about like a wrung out sponge, 11:09.700 --> 11:12.066 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% for, for two weeks. 11:12.066 --> 11:13.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Amanda> For two weeks? Dr. Adam> Yes, ma'am. 11:13.633 --> 11:15.266 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% If you want to get more technical, 11:15.266 --> 11:17.000 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% you can take a little piece of soil. 11:17.000 --> 11:19.966 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And if you squeeze it, it should have, 11:19.966 --> 11:21.800 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% it should be able to hold form. 11:21.800 --> 11:23.833 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% It shouldn't crumble, 11:23.833 --> 11:25.766 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% but also it shouldn't have water 11:25.766 --> 11:28.000 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% sapping out the sides of it. 11:28.000 --> 11:29.500 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% So you keep it 11:29.500 --> 11:32.100 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% moist for two weeks, and then we start backing off. 11:32.100 --> 11:34.433 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% So for most people, using an irrigation system, 11:34.433 --> 11:36.833 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% you're looking at watering at least 11:36.833 --> 11:39.266 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% early morning and late afternoon. 11:39.266 --> 11:40.500 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% And our sandy soils, 11:40.500 --> 11:44.433 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% it might not be a bad year to put a third irrigation 11:44.433 --> 11:45.866 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% time in the middle of the day. 11:45.866 --> 11:47.566 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Amanda> Goodness! >> So that your soil 11:47.566 --> 11:49.066 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% doesn't dry out. 11:49.066 --> 11:52.633 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Amanda> Well. How much water should you apply at one time? 11:52.633 --> 11:55.333 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Dr. Adam> So for most of our South Carolina soils, 11:55.333 --> 11:58.200 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% they hold about an inch to an inch and a half of water 11:58.200 --> 12:00.166 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% in the top 12 inches of the soil. 12:00.166 --> 12:03.700 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Amanda> Yes. >> So in a day, because we don't want to 12:03.700 --> 12:05.133 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% overdo too much where 12:05.133 --> 12:06.566 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% we're looking at probably wanting 12:06.566 --> 12:09.400 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% to do like a third of an inch of water 12:09.400 --> 12:12.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% a day, so maybe a 10th of an inch at a time, just... 12:12.666 --> 12:14.533 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% Amanda> Goodness. 12:14.533 --> 12:17.500 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% And why the morning and early afternoon 12:17.500 --> 12:18.966 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% or late afternoon, which one? 12:18.966 --> 12:21.133 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% >> So you do go in the early morning, 12:21.133 --> 12:22.766 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% one, because that's when plants 12:22.766 --> 12:25.100 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% have the highest potential to take up water. 12:25.100 --> 12:27.433 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Amanda> Do they? Dr. Adam> So because the air 12:27.433 --> 12:29.000 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% is so thick with moisture, 12:29.000 --> 12:30.866 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% you don't have evaporation loss. 12:30.866 --> 12:34.266 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% The plant has the greatest moisture potential. 12:34.266 --> 12:37.500 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% So it, takes up the most water, then- 12:37.500 --> 12:38.900 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Amanda>-gets a great big drink of water. 12:38.900 --> 12:41.600 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Dr. Adam> Right. So then going into later afternoon, 12:41.600 --> 12:44.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% because these grasses, especially on sod, 12:44.666 --> 12:47.166 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% have such a small root system, 12:47.166 --> 12:49.666 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% it's more predisposed to drying out. 12:49.666 --> 12:52.000 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% So we're just trying to keep those roots wet. 12:52.000 --> 12:54.166 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% And also there's just a lot of stress 12:54.166 --> 12:55.333 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% that's happened during the day. 12:55.333 --> 12:57.100 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% So it's just a chance for it to cool off 12:57.100 --> 13:01.400 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% and kind of, reorient itself to go in. 13:01.400 --> 13:03.500 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% However, what we can see, 13:03.500 --> 13:04.500 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% because these grass 13:04.500 --> 13:06.766 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% are heavily fertilized to begin with. 13:06.766 --> 13:10.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Sometimes people go a little bit too much with that fertilizer. 13:10.566 --> 13:15.100 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% And the sod has already been fertilized by the company 13:15.100 --> 13:17.966 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% that people will sometimes go too much. 13:17.966 --> 13:19.166 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% So it's also not a bad idea 13:19.166 --> 13:21.400 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% to be putting out fungicide at this time, as well. 13:21.400 --> 13:23.400 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% Amanda> Gosh, that's a lot. 13:23.400 --> 13:26.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Dr. Adam> Lawns are fun. (all laugh) 13:26.566 --> 13:29.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Terasa> Well, if you love grass, which obviously, you do. 13:29.333 --> 13:33.066 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% But this is a very different watering regime than 13:33.066 --> 13:34.566 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% an established lawn. Dr. Adam> Correct. 13:34.566 --> 13:36.900 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Terasa> So we want to make sure that our viewers are aware 13:36.900 --> 13:39.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% that this is not standard practice for your lawn. 13:39.366 --> 13:40.633 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% It's already well established. 13:40.633 --> 13:44.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Dr. Adam> Once it's established, then at most, 2 to 3 times 13:44.566 --> 13:46.266 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% a week is when you should be watering, 13:46.266 --> 13:48.900 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% doing what we call deep and in frequent. 13:50.100 --> 13:51.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Amanda> And of course, Doug Tallamy 13:51.700 --> 13:55.300 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% would like for us to reduce the acres of lawn we have. 13:55.300 --> 13:57.366 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% You could still have enough lawn to, 13:57.366 --> 13:59.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% you know, have a picnic and a slip and slide. 13:59.433 --> 14:01.466 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I think everybody needs to have slip and slides. 14:01.466 --> 14:03.133 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Terasa> Oh, that brings back childhood memories. 14:03.133 --> 14:04.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Amanda> Wasn't that fun? They were so much fun. 14:04.733 --> 14:06.766 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% But, there are other. 14:06.766 --> 14:09.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I mean, your yard doesn't have to be 19 acres of grass. 14:09.933 --> 14:11.900 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% There's so many other things you can plant, 14:11.900 --> 14:13.600 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% that would be larval food sources. 14:13.600 --> 14:17.466 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% And just...I mean, everybody wants a pretty lawn, but, 14:17.466 --> 14:22.300 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% some people just have huge, huge lawns and, and they're, 14:22.300 --> 14:25.833 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% they're really, use a lot of inputs, don't they? 14:25.833 --> 14:27.166 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% Dr. Adam> Depending on the grass, 14:27.166 --> 14:30.300 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% you know, different grasses have different 14:30.300 --> 14:31.900 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% maintenance requirements. 14:31.900 --> 14:36.100 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% And also...for me, a landscape should reflect the person. 14:36.100 --> 14:41.200 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% So I think a lot of people appreciate diversity. 14:41.200 --> 14:45.033 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% And there's always a good way to blend in 14:45.033 --> 14:48.800 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% your more traditional lawns and with some of our new, 14:48.800 --> 14:50.566 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% meadow style, prairie style lawns. 14:50.566 --> 14:52.766 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% So there's a lot of opportunity 14:52.766 --> 14:56.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% to incorporate multiple, plant species into an area. 14:56.866 --> 14:59.566 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Amanda> Well, you phrase that very, in a very lovely manner. 14:59.566 --> 15:00.700 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5% Thank you. 15:00.700 --> 15:02.300 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Terasa> Yeah...kind of like your yard can have, 15:02.300 --> 15:03.866 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% can reflect your personality. 15:03.866 --> 15:05.433 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% Dr. Adam> Exactly. 15:05.433 --> 15:06.766 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% Amanda> Yeah! Oh, okay. 15:06.766 --> 15:11.800 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Well, Zack Snipes took us down to a wonderful, 15:11.800 --> 15:14.500 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% farmer who's one of his good friends. 15:14.500 --> 15:16.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And I think you're going to enjoy the visit that we had. 15:19.100 --> 15:24.833 align:left position:50% line:89% size:40% ♪ 15:24.833 --> 15:26.400 align:left position:27.5% line:47% size:62.5% Zack> Hi, everyone. My name is Zack Snipes. 15:26.400 --> 15:28.100 align:left position:22.5% line:47% size:67.5% I'm a county Extension agent for the Clemson University 15:28.100 --> 15:30.100 align:left position:12.5% line:47% size:77.5% Cooperative Extension Service. 15:30.100 --> 15:32.900 align:left position:15% line:47% size:75% My job is to work with fruit and vegetable producers 15:32.900 --> 15:34.833 align:left position:30% line:47% size:60% in the Lowcountry of South Carolina. 15:34.833 --> 15:36.666 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% And today we're in Stewart Point 15:36.666 --> 15:39.800 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% or the, Seabrook area of Beaufort County. 15:39.800 --> 15:41.900 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% And I get to interview one of my good friends, 15:41.900 --> 15:44.166 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% one of my favorite farmers, Roy Green 15:44.166 --> 15:46.233 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% of Simply Green Farm. 15:46.233 --> 15:48.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% We got some rain today, but I'm happy to 15:48.366 --> 15:49.800 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% to have you here, Roy, today. 15:49.800 --> 15:51.466 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% And, thanks for coming on the show. 15:51.466 --> 15:53.000 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Roy> Thank you, Zack. It's good to be here. 15:53.000 --> 15:55.400 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Zack> Yeah, man. So tell us a little bit about yourself 15:55.400 --> 15:57.233 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% and how you got into farming. 15:57.233 --> 15:58.466 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% Roy> I'm one of 14. 15:58.466 --> 16:01.700 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% My mom and dad, had 14 children. 16:01.700 --> 16:02.900 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% They were farmers. 16:02.900 --> 16:07.866 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% I got into farming because they farmed, back in 1940. 16:07.866 --> 16:10.533 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% They bought ten acres of land, for $100. 16:10.533 --> 16:11.866 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% Zack> $100, Roy> $100 16:11.866 --> 16:13.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Zack>...for all ten acres Roy>...for all ten acres. 16:13.233 --> 16:15.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Zack> That's a good deal. Roy> That was an excellent deal. 16:15.200 --> 16:17.433 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% Mom, mom had the money, 16:17.433 --> 16:19.133 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Dad didn't. But, mom, saved up the money. 16:19.133 --> 16:22.500 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% She had it. And back then, when someone needed money 16:22.500 --> 16:23.800 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% to bury a loved one, 16:23.800 --> 16:26.966 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% instead of having the money, they would put up property. 16:26.966 --> 16:28.266 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% So they put up the property, 16:28.266 --> 16:30.100 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and she had the money, and she bought the land and, 16:30.100 --> 16:31.500 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% and the rest is history. 16:31.500 --> 16:33.733 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% They, they farmed... they farmed a little bit 16:33.733 --> 16:35.533 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% of everything cucumbers, tomatoes, 16:35.533 --> 16:37.866 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% beans, squash, zucchini. 16:37.866 --> 16:39.400 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And it would take it to a local market. 16:39.400 --> 16:41.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I was, as a little boy, I was right there. 16:41.200 --> 16:42.733 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% You know, either carrying the bucket 16:42.733 --> 16:44.600 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% or carrying the water or doing something. 16:44.600 --> 16:46.600 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Zack> Yep. So, so you grew up farming. 16:46.600 --> 16:48.200 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Roy> Grew up farming. Zack> Yep. And then, 16:48.200 --> 16:50.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and then you've continued farming the whole time 16:50.633 --> 16:51.766 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% or what happened between 16:51.766 --> 16:53.133 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% when you were a little boy and now? 16:53.133 --> 16:57.300 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Roy> Well, I, I kept on farming until, I got out of school 16:57.300 --> 17:00.766 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and then I left, when I graduated from high school, 17:00.766 --> 17:03.833 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% I left and I went to New York for about 12 years. 17:03.833 --> 17:07.466 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% And then I came back in 1992, and Dad had kind of 17:07.466 --> 17:08.766 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% stopped with farming. 17:08.766 --> 17:10.966 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% He had an, you know, he was tired. 17:10.966 --> 17:14.866 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% All the kids was gone after, you know, farming. 17:14.866 --> 17:17.266 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Everybody left. Nobody wanted any parts of farming. 17:17.266 --> 17:20.400 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Farming was hard, I mean,... and the money wasn't there. 17:20.400 --> 17:21.533 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% So, it was a better living. 17:21.533 --> 17:23.600 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% People went in the... brothers and sisters 17:23.600 --> 17:25.866 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% went in the military or they went to the city. 17:25.866 --> 17:28.300 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And that's when I went and I came back. 17:28.300 --> 17:30.500 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Zack> And so you guys were able to hang on to the land 17:30.500 --> 17:31.800 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% that we're still on today? 17:31.800 --> 17:32.966 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% Roy> Yes. Yes, Mom, 17:32.966 --> 17:35.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% That was one thing mom always thought she was one. 17:35.166 --> 17:37.633 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% She...was determined to keep the land. 17:37.633 --> 17:40.666 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% And then, after the farming, then you had family members 17:40.666 --> 17:42.433 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% that moved in different parts of the land. 17:42.433 --> 17:45.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% You know, we built houses here, you know, mobile homes. 17:45.433 --> 17:48.666 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% So we still had the farm here and certain parts of it. 17:48.666 --> 17:51.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% But it wasn't...it wasn't the whole thing wasn't farmed. 17:51.766 --> 17:53.500 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% Zack> Right. So then I get a call, 17:53.500 --> 17:55.200 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% I don't know how many years ago now, 17:55.200 --> 17:57.266 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% it says, "Hey, man, I want to start farming." 17:57.266 --> 17:59.600 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% And so, you picked farming back up, I guess. 17:59.600 --> 18:01.366 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% And so that's when you called me. 18:01.366 --> 18:02.833 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% And, when I walked out here, 18:02.833 --> 18:04.400 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% it was just a bare piece of ground. 18:04.400 --> 18:06.866 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Man, we've come a long way in a few years, hadn't we? 18:06.866 --> 18:08.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Roy> Exactly, exactly. I moved back, 18:08.800 --> 18:11.933 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% from New York in 1992, and Dad had stopped farming, 18:11.933 --> 18:13.266 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% so I kind of talked Dad back 18:13.266 --> 18:15.533 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% into getting into farming on a limited basis. 18:15.533 --> 18:17.133 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% So he...he did it. He gave it a try. 18:17.133 --> 18:18.400 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% It gave us a little time 18:18.400 --> 18:21.066 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% to get to really bond together and, you know, get to know 18:21.066 --> 18:22.266 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% when we were small, 18:22.266 --> 18:23.966 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% you didn't really have time to talk to your dad. 18:23.966 --> 18:27.100 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% He was working, busy working, busy doing this and that. 18:27.100 --> 18:31.833 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% So, so I started back and then, I had an opportunity 18:31.833 --> 18:34.433 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% to buy another piece of land next to our property, 18:34.433 --> 18:36.800 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% which is this property right here, which is five acres. 18:36.800 --> 18:37.933 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% And that's when I called you. 18:37.933 --> 18:39.300 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% I cleared it off and I said, Zack, 18:39.300 --> 18:41.766 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I want to do something with this property. 18:41.766 --> 18:43.000 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% And I said, you know, I'm thinking 18:43.000 --> 18:44.766 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% about growing blackberries. Zack> Yeah. 18:44.766 --> 18:46.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Roy> I talked to a farmer by the name of 18:46.866 --> 18:49.800 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Mr. Jackie Barefoot. And he was growing blackberries. 18:49.800 --> 18:50.933 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% So I was intrigued, 18:50.933 --> 18:52.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but I never I didn't know anything about it. 18:52.566 --> 18:54.066 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% So that's when I called you. Zack> Right. 18:54.066 --> 18:55.933 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% And so I came out and we kind of 18:55.933 --> 18:58.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% talked about some things and looked at the land and, 18:58.566 --> 19:01.300 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% kind of made some suggestions on, you know, 19:01.300 --> 19:03.033 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% what way to orient the land and whatever 19:03.033 --> 19:04.700 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and kind of pick some varieties out. 19:04.700 --> 19:06.566 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% And now, now, what's the farm doing? 19:06.566 --> 19:09.133 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% What are you growing here now? Roy> I'm growing blackberries. 19:09.133 --> 19:10.433 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% I bought some blackberry plugs 19:10.433 --> 19:14.400 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% ...from Nurse Farms, and it turned out great. 19:14.400 --> 19:16.166 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% Like you said, we picked out an area. 19:16.166 --> 19:19.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% We decided where the sun was going to be more sun. 19:19.100 --> 19:22.533 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% We decided to put it in high tunnel and outside, 19:22.533 --> 19:24.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% so that worked out great. Zack> For our viewers, 19:24.666 --> 19:26.033 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% that are watching that may not be familiar 19:26.033 --> 19:27.800 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% with a high tunnel. What's what's a high tunnel? 19:27.800 --> 19:30.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Roy> A high tunnel is... It's various names for it. 19:30.266 --> 19:31.500 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% Some people call it a hoop house. 19:31.500 --> 19:33.033 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% Some people call it a greenhouse. 19:33.033 --> 19:35.000 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% It's just a sheltered area, 19:35.000 --> 19:37.100 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% with plastic that you can get the sun in, 19:37.100 --> 19:38.566 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% but you can, block out 19:38.566 --> 19:40.566 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% some of the rain. You can block out the rain. 19:40.566 --> 19:42.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And you have some of them they're built different. 19:42.500 --> 19:44.166 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Mine has drop down sides. 19:44.166 --> 19:47.533 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% So you have open sides and open front and back doors. 19:47.533 --> 19:48.633 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% Zack> Okay. So what's the advantage 19:48.633 --> 19:50.366 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% of being able to open the front doors 19:50.366 --> 19:51.633 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% and the sides of the greenhouse? 19:51.633 --> 19:52.866 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% Roy> For ventilation. 19:52.866 --> 19:54.966 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% You get more air circulation. Down here in the south, 19:54.966 --> 19:57.333 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% you know it gets pretty hot. Zack> It gets very hot. 19:57.333 --> 19:58.900 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% So, so you have some blackberries 19:58.900 --> 20:00.566 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% growing under this high tunnel structure, 20:00.566 --> 20:02.133 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and then you have some growing in the field. 20:02.133 --> 20:03.366 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% Can you tell us a little bit 20:03.366 --> 20:05.400 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% about the differences and the nuances, 20:05.400 --> 20:08.300 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% because there are differences between the two, correct? 20:08.300 --> 20:09.866 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Roy> Correct. Correct. In the high tunnel, 20:09.866 --> 20:12.000 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% you can control the weather. You can control the elements. 20:12.000 --> 20:14.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% You even control the bugs to a certain degree. 20:14.200 --> 20:16.300 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% So here you can, 20:16.300 --> 20:17.966 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% And then I have a water system. 20:17.966 --> 20:19.233 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% I have a drip irrigation system 20:19.233 --> 20:21.300 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% in the high tunnel. Outside, 20:21.300 --> 20:23.066 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% you get, you know, I can 20:23.066 --> 20:24.933 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% I have an irrigation system outside also, 20:24.933 --> 20:26.600 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% but I can't control the rain out there. 20:26.600 --> 20:29.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% When it rains, it rains, and then with the bugs, 20:29.033 --> 20:32.533 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% you get more fungus. You get more bugs, outside. 20:32.533 --> 20:35.200 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Zack> Outside than inside. So...so it's a protected area. 20:35.200 --> 20:36.166 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% It's a little more sheltered, 20:36.166 --> 20:37.600 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and you can control things a little bit. 20:37.600 --> 20:39.966 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% So you're quality's a little better on the berries, 20:39.966 --> 20:41.266 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% potentially. Roy> Exactly. 20:41.266 --> 20:43.900 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% And from my take...it..the berries are a little sweeter. 20:43.900 --> 20:45.300 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% It's a little larger too, 20:45.300 --> 20:46.900 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% inside the high tunnel. 20:46.900 --> 20:48.666 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Zack> Well doesn't it get hot in this high tunnel? 20:48.666 --> 20:50.966 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% How do you kind of combat that, especially during the summers? 20:52.433 --> 20:55.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Roy> Open up the sides, pretty much. 20:55.000 --> 20:57.766 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And...in one of them I have fans in it 20:57.766 --> 20:59.433 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% that kind of keep the air circulating, 20:59.433 --> 21:01.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but I find that it really doesn't affect it that much. 21:01.966 --> 21:05.000 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Zack> Right. You also use, I see on these tunnels, 21:05.000 --> 21:06.333 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% a black cloth. 21:06.333 --> 21:07.533 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Tell us a little bit about that 21:07.533 --> 21:09.566 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and why you would use that black cloth. 21:09.566 --> 21:11.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Roy> That cloth is called a shade cloth. 21:11.466 --> 21:14.966 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% What it does, it shades 25% of the sun out. 21:14.966 --> 21:17.533 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% You can get various types of cloth. 21:17.533 --> 21:20.100 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% You can get them up to 60% shade, 21:20.100 --> 21:22.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but I choose 25% because I don't want to block out 21:22.966 --> 21:25.466 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% too much of the sun because as you know, you need the sun- 21:25.466 --> 21:26.600 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% Zack> -Right. Roy>...for the blackberries. 21:26.600 --> 21:28.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Zack> But it blocks out enough to where, you know, 21:28.366 --> 21:30.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% maybe the berries aren't getting blistered by the sun. 21:30.766 --> 21:32.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% It kind of knocks down some of the UV rays 21:32.900 --> 21:34.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and keeps a little better quality on the berries. 21:34.766 --> 21:36.066 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% Roy> Exactly, exactly. 21:36.066 --> 21:38.666 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% And it kind of find a good niche right there with the 25%. 21:38.666 --> 21:40.500 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% I think that works pretty good. Zack> Right. 21:40.500 --> 21:41.766 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% Well, tell us a little bit about, 21:41.766 --> 21:43.900 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% the varieties of blackberries you grow, 21:43.900 --> 21:45.033 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% because when I was growing up, 21:45.033 --> 21:47.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I worked on a peach farm and we had blackberries and, 21:47.700 --> 21:50.666 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% the varieties you have here aren't like the varieties 21:50.666 --> 21:52.300 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% I had to pick they had thorns on them, 21:52.300 --> 21:54.333 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and you came out all scratched up and bloody 21:54.333 --> 21:55.466 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% and that sort of thing. 21:55.466 --> 21:56.833 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% So tell us a little bit about these 21:56.833 --> 21:58.800 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% and why you chose these varieties. 21:58.800 --> 22:02.800 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Roy> Yeah, I did some research and I, researched a company 22:02.800 --> 22:06.833 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% called Nurse Farms and they, they, produced this variety. 22:06.833 --> 22:09.366 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% It's a plug. It grows on a trellis. It grows. 22:09.366 --> 22:12.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% You put the plug in and it grows up, and it's thornless. It's... 22:12.766 --> 22:14.233 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% Zack> Oh, so. So you don't get scratched 22:14.233 --> 22:15.766 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% when you pick it. Roy> You don't get scratched 22:15.766 --> 22:17.866 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% and you don't have to bend over as far to pick them. 22:17.866 --> 22:19.700 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% You pick them. You put it on a trellis 22:19.700 --> 22:21.933 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and...you pick them on a vine 22:21.933 --> 22:25.333 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and it grows from the cane and it goes to the laterals 22:25.333 --> 22:27.700 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and the lateral, produces a berry. 22:27.700 --> 22:30.700 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% Zack> Okay. And so most 22:30.700 --> 22:32.033 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% blackberry varieties produce 22:32.033 --> 22:34.333 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% one crop a year, but these are different. 22:34.333 --> 22:36.200 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% And they produce how many crops a year? 22:36.200 --> 22:37.466 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% Roy> So far, two. 22:37.466 --> 22:40.000 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% But, I got my fingers crossed I might have a third crop. 22:40.000 --> 22:41.333 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Zack> So three crops in one season? 22:41.333 --> 22:42.566 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Roy> Three crops in one... Zack> Yeah. 22:42.566 --> 22:44.866 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% So, for those viewers at home, 22:44.866 --> 22:46.833 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% University of Arkansas has bred some varieties 22:46.833 --> 22:48.833 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% in the last couple of decades that actually produce 22:48.833 --> 22:50.700 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% blackberries twice a year. 22:50.700 --> 22:52.300 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% but as we're seeing in the high tunnel, 22:52.300 --> 22:54.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% you might could get three crops a year out of them. 22:54.633 --> 22:56.766 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% So that's very encouraging for a farmer, 22:56.766 --> 22:58.633 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Roy> I think so, because with the high tunnel, 22:58.633 --> 23:02.066 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% you get that early picking in April 23:02.066 --> 23:03.533 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and then you get a late picking- 23:03.533 --> 23:04.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Zack> -So you're picking blackberries in April? 23:04.833 --> 23:06.000 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% Roy> Picking in April. 23:06.000 --> 23:07.233 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% You're starting to produce in April. 23:07.233 --> 23:08.866 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Zack> Wow. So typically when I think of blackberries, 23:08.866 --> 23:11.600 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% we're thinking about getting them in, you know, May or June, 23:11.600 --> 23:13.633 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% but you're picking two months early. 23:13.633 --> 23:15.500 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Roy> Oh yeah. People are... the customers are amazing, 23:15.500 --> 23:17.033 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% "Where do you get blackberries from at this time?" 23:17.033 --> 23:18.666 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% "It's not. It's out of season." 23:18.666 --> 23:20.666 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% I said, "not Simply Green". Zack> Right. 23:20.666 --> 23:23.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So under the high tunnel they're coming in earlier. 23:23.033 --> 23:25.300 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And then the field ones come in a little later. 23:25.300 --> 23:27.866 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% And by the time the ones in the field come in, 23:27.866 --> 23:29.866 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% then the second crop is being produced on the ones 23:29.866 --> 23:31.700 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% in the tunnel. Right? Roy> Exactly. 23:31.700 --> 23:33.933 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Zack> So you're having basically a continuous 23:33.933 --> 23:37.866 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% harvest from April through when? 23:37.866 --> 23:40.466 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Roy> April, the season, the first picking 23:40.466 --> 23:42.333 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% normally lasts about 2 to 3 weeks, 23:42.333 --> 23:45.200 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and then it stops and you prune everything out 23:45.200 --> 23:47.366 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and then you can get another harvest. 23:47.366 --> 23:52.166 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% probably in May, June, and then it stops again. 23:52.166 --> 23:54.733 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% And then I'm hoping that I could get another 23:54.733 --> 23:57.566 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% harvest in August, August, September, October are 23:57.566 --> 23:59.466 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% Zack> Wow! So, we were talking earlier 23:59.466 --> 24:00.800 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% before we started filming about, 24:00.800 --> 24:03.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% you know, the maintenance on these blackberries and, 24:03.333 --> 24:05.666 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and how you fertilize them and water them 24:05.666 --> 24:07.033 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% and prune them and take care of them. 24:07.033 --> 24:08.200 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% Can you walk us through 24:08.200 --> 24:10.233 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% what that process looks like for you? 24:10.233 --> 24:12.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Roy> That process is... is a long process. 24:12.600 --> 24:14.666 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% A lot of, pruning and tipping, 24:15.833 --> 24:18.233 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Blackberry demands a lot of pruning. 24:18.233 --> 24:20.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% If you don't prune them, they grow... 24:20.233 --> 24:21.900 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% they can grow up to the ceiling. 24:21.900 --> 24:23.966 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% So you got to tip, when you call it tipping, 24:23.966 --> 24:25.633 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% you just tip the edges of them, 24:25.633 --> 24:28.200 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% and that produces the lateral, the lateral shoots out. 24:28.200 --> 24:30.100 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% And that's what hangs on to the trellis 24:30.100 --> 24:31.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and you kind of tie them on the trellis. 24:31.633 --> 24:33.100 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% Zack> Okay. So the tip pruning. 24:33.100 --> 24:35.733 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% So like we take one of these tips and pinch it. 24:35.733 --> 24:38.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And instead of being one it forks out into two. 24:38.666 --> 24:40.900 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% And then it's going to produce blackberries 24:40.900 --> 24:42.866 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% on both ends of the thing. Is that what you're saying? 24:42.866 --> 24:44.966 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Roy> And sometimes, even go three. 24:44.966 --> 24:47.266 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% It'll fork out as much as three. 24:47.266 --> 24:49.900 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Zack> So...the viewers at home should be tip pruning 24:49.900 --> 24:51.400 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% if they want to get increased production. 24:51.400 --> 24:53.400 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% Roy> Tipping is a key. 24:53.400 --> 24:55.666 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% If you don't tip, you're missing out. 24:55.666 --> 24:56.866 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% Zack> Right. 24:56.866 --> 24:58.866 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% What do you do with the old canes that have died? 24:58.866 --> 25:00.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Because these canes grow. They live. 25:00.700 --> 25:02.500 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% They produce fruit, and then they die. 25:02.500 --> 25:04.766 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And it's fairly obvious to see which ones are dead. 25:04.766 --> 25:06.633 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% How do you how do you manage that? 25:06.633 --> 25:09.300 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Roy> I prune old canes out and get rid of them. 25:09.300 --> 25:11.966 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% I don't use them for anything else. They're just old canes. 25:11.966 --> 25:13.766 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Hopefully, I'll find something to do with them. 25:13.766 --> 25:15.766 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% But right now I don't have any use for them. 25:15.766 --> 25:18.466 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Zack> Right. So that's a... that's a big task. 25:18.466 --> 25:19.666 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% You know, I guess after harvest 25:19.666 --> 25:20.866 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% because you're excited about the harvest 25:20.866 --> 25:22.500 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and then there's work to do after that. Correct? 25:22.500 --> 25:23.666 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Roy> Blackberries are a lot of work. 25:23.666 --> 25:25.200 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% Yeah, it's a lot of work to prune it. 25:25.200 --> 25:27.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% You prune everything out. Zack> Right. 25:27.933 --> 25:30.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% All right, Roy. So now we're at the phase 25:30.600 --> 25:32.266 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% where we're harvesting these blackberries. 25:32.266 --> 25:33.433 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% Where are your markets? 25:33.433 --> 25:34.766 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Where are you getting rid of these things? 25:34.766 --> 25:36.966 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Roy> I provide blackberries to the Gullah co-op. 25:36.966 --> 25:39.666 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% I provide blackberry to the community. 25:39.666 --> 25:41.166 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% And the You-Pick bases. 25:41.166 --> 25:43.966 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% And I also provide blackberry at a farmer's market. 25:43.966 --> 25:46.833 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5% That's where I'm... Zack> The Gullah Co-op, 25:46.833 --> 25:48.833 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% can you tell us a little bit about your relationship 25:48.833 --> 25:50.566 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50% with them and how that process works? 25:50.566 --> 25:51.733 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% Roy> They're a co-op. 25:51.733 --> 25:54.766 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% That helps, minority farmers, Black farmers, 25:54.766 --> 25:59.600 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% and they, they help us, with distributing our berries. 25:59.600 --> 26:02.200 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% Zack> So, it's been great to hear about your farm 26:02.200 --> 26:04.233 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% and what you're doing here, but I think you have 26:04.233 --> 26:08.100 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% a greater purpose than just growing blackberries and... 26:08.100 --> 26:10.100 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% you know, providing them to the co-op 26:10.100 --> 26:11.266 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% and the markets and stuff. 26:11.266 --> 26:12.966 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% What's... the bigger purpose here? 26:12.966 --> 26:15.533 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Roy> It's just... the purpose that 26:15.533 --> 26:18.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I really take pride in is keeping the heritage, 26:18.633 --> 26:22.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% keeping the legacy alive with farming in the community. 26:22.466 --> 26:25.966 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Back when I grew up, there were over 20 farmers in this area. 26:25.966 --> 26:27.600 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% Now I'm the only one. 26:27.600 --> 26:31.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And keeping it going and, and...having the produce 26:31.266 --> 26:32.500 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% that people can come up 26:32.500 --> 26:35.733 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and still get local produce, produce from, 26:35.733 --> 26:38.166 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% from a local farmer. And they look forward to it. 26:38.166 --> 26:40.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I got, I got customers calling me every day. 26:40.366 --> 26:43.133 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% When will your okra be ready? When will your peas be ready? 26:43.133 --> 26:47.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So, it's to keep it going and to have that, that pleasure 26:47.666 --> 26:51.666 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% in knowing that you're offering a good product, you know- 26:51.666 --> 26:52.866 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Zack> -to the people you live around? 26:52.866 --> 26:54.400 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% >>To the people I live around. Zack> That's right. 26:54.400 --> 26:56.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Roy> And they come back, every year. <Zack> Yep. 26:56.766 --> 27:00.333 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% And because it's less and less farmers exist now. 27:00.333 --> 27:01.933 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% in areas in our community 27:01.933 --> 27:03.300 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Zack> And I know you're providing a service 27:03.300 --> 27:05.833 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% to the community in that way, but you also give back, 27:05.833 --> 27:07.900 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% by exposing youth to agriculture. 27:07.900 --> 27:09.300 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% Can you tell us a little bit about 27:09.300 --> 27:10.433 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% how you're involved there? 27:10.433 --> 27:11.833 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% Roy> Yeah, I work with the local schools. 27:11.833 --> 27:13.433 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% I work with the Whale Branch Elementary, 27:13.433 --> 27:14.833 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% Middle and High School. 27:14.833 --> 27:18.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% We have a not for profit, organization called 27:18.900 --> 27:21.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Heritage Community Farm, where we build gardens 27:21.466 --> 27:24.666 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and the students are actively involved 27:24.666 --> 27:28.900 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and they get the go from start to finish, 27:28.900 --> 27:30.133 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% planting to harvesting. 27:30.133 --> 27:32.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And they get, they get a big thrill out of it. 27:32.000 --> 27:33.066 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% You could, you should see them, 27:33.066 --> 27:34.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and during Thanksgiving, when we grow 27:34.766 --> 27:37.800 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% collard greens and cabbage and they get to take it home 27:37.800 --> 27:39.166 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% and enjoy it, Zack> Proud of it, huh. 27:39.166 --> 27:40.566 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% Roy> I love it because you can see 27:40.566 --> 27:41.766 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% the excitement on their face. 27:41.766 --> 27:42.966 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% They don't know about these things, 27:42.966 --> 27:44.300 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% but they grew up in this community 27:44.300 --> 27:46.500 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and they have... very little knowledge 27:46.500 --> 27:48.300 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% of what this community was all about. 27:48.300 --> 27:50.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It was all about farming. Zack> Right. 27:50.033 --> 27:51.200 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% And you're also providing 27:51.200 --> 27:53.500 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% potentially a place for them to work, 27:53.500 --> 27:55.266 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% you know, if they come through the program 27:55.266 --> 27:57.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and they have something to do, if they, 27:57.000 --> 27:58.833 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% if they're interested in farming one day. 27:58.833 --> 28:00.300 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45% Roy> That's right. Because... 28:00.300 --> 28:03.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% a lot of young people, they have different talents. 28:03.800 --> 28:05.166 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% And sometimes at a young age 28:05.166 --> 28:06.900 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% they don't know which way to go. 28:06.900 --> 28:08.333 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% And if you can get them started 28:08.333 --> 28:10.133 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% in something that they like, 28:10.133 --> 28:11.266 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% you know, maybe they'll catch on, 28:11.266 --> 28:13.066 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% or maybe they'll be a Zack, one of these days. 28:13.066 --> 28:14.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Zack> Or maybe they'll be a Roy, one day. 28:14.600 --> 28:16.066 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% Roy> Maybe, you know, 28:16.066 --> 28:17.266 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Zack> Roy, thank you for letting us 28:17.266 --> 28:19.333 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% come out today and doing this interview 28:19.333 --> 28:20.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and hearing a little bit about your history 28:20.700 --> 28:22.100 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% and your vision, 28:22.100 --> 28:24.066 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and your, really your heart for your community 28:24.066 --> 28:26.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and the young generations coming up. 28:26.533 --> 28:27.733 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% We appreciate you having us today. 28:27.733 --> 28:29.200 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Roy> Well, I thank you for coming out. 28:29.200 --> 28:30.800 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% And before you go, I have a special treat. 28:30.800 --> 28:34.266 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% My wife, Jackie, she makes, blackberry lemonade. 28:34.266 --> 28:37.666 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% That's one of the way that we use our blackberries. 28:37.666 --> 28:39.300 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% And you're going to love it. 28:39.300 --> 28:40.433 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Zack> All right, man, I'm pumped. 28:40.433 --> 28:44.233 align:left position:50% line:89% size:40% ♪ 28:44.233 --> 28:47.300 align:left position:50% line:89% size:40% ♪ 28:47.300 --> 28:50.300 align:left position:50% line:89% size:40% ♪ 28:50.300 --> 29:02.600 align:left position:50% line:89% size:40% ♪ 29:02.600 --> 29:04.333 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% Amanda> Thanks to Zack for taking us out. 29:04.333 --> 29:07.200 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% And I can see why Mr. Green's one of your favorite farmers. 29:07.200 --> 29:09.700 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And we want to thank ETV Lowcountry, 29:09.700 --> 29:12.433 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% who were just wonderful to help us get the B-roll. 29:12.433 --> 29:13.866 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% and thank you guys. 29:13.866 --> 29:15.033 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% You really helped us make, 29:15.033 --> 29:16.633 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% what I think is a really good segment. 29:16.633 --> 29:20.833 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% Thanks a lot. So, hats, hats, hats.... 29:20.833 --> 29:22.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% You know, Terasa, So it's kind of hard to find stuff, 29:22.966 --> 29:24.266 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% but I was very lucky. 29:24.266 --> 29:28.800 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% And, I've got some mountain mint, which is the white one, 29:28.800 --> 29:31.400 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% and it just has a wonderful smell. 29:31.400 --> 29:35.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And, and I think that's, a favorite of pollinators. 29:35.233 --> 29:38.233 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% Terasa> It is. Usually it's all abuzz. 29:38.233 --> 29:40.633 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5% (all laugh) 29:40.633 --> 29:42.300 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% I don't think I'll be a stand up comedian 29:42.300 --> 29:43.866 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5% (all laugh) 29:43.866 --> 29:45.333 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Amanda> And then some fennel one, 29:45.333 --> 29:47.466 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% even though this is native, I do think 29:47.466 --> 29:51.800 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% some of our caterpillar larvae, can feed on this. 29:51.800 --> 29:53.000 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Isn't that right? Terasa> That is right. 29:53.000 --> 29:54.166 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% The black swallowtail, 29:54.166 --> 29:56.033 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% yes, uses lots of things in the... 29:56.033 --> 29:58.600 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% let's see if I get this right, the Apiaceae family. 29:58.600 --> 30:01.200 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% So your parsley and your fennel and, 30:01.200 --> 30:03.700 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% sometimes people get upset because the 30:03.700 --> 30:05.500 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% they'll eat your herbs down to nubs. 30:05.500 --> 30:07.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% So it's a good strategy if you plant some for you 30:07.700 --> 30:08.933 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% and some for them too. 30:08.933 --> 30:11.366 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Amanda> And fennel's pretty robust and fortunately so. 30:11.366 --> 30:12.866 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% Yeah, you probably have some of that. 30:12.866 --> 30:14.566 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60% But fennel's fun to walk out in the garden 30:14.566 --> 30:18.033 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% and just pinch some seeds off and, and chew on those too. 30:18.033 --> 30:19.533 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% I like the way they taste. 30:19.533 --> 30:22.900 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% Well, whom else can we help? 30:22.900 --> 30:24.733 align:left position:42.5% line:5% size:47.5% Terasa> That is a great question. 30:24.733 --> 30:27.833 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5% How about Bill from Beaufort? 30:27.833 --> 30:33.033 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% He said, "I've seen Avocados available in local nurseries. 30:33.033 --> 30:34.400 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% "Can I grow them..." 30:34.400 --> 30:36.933 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and is "there anything special I need to know?" 30:36.933 --> 30:41.333 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Amanda> My husband and I go round and round and round 30:41.333 --> 30:43.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% because he wants to save all the Avocado seeds 30:43.766 --> 30:46.800 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% and they're not a very attractive houseplant, 30:46.800 --> 30:48.400 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% because we have to bring them in the winter. 30:48.400 --> 30:50.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% But, I mean, I don't live in the Lowcountry. 30:50.366 --> 30:51.500 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% What's the story down there? 30:51.500 --> 30:53.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Christopher> Well, even, even in the Lowcountry, 30:53.333 --> 30:55.533 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% you're really going to bring them in, in the winter. 30:55.533 --> 30:57.800 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% So even the most cold tolerant Avocados 30:57.800 --> 31:00.733 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% are really only tolerant to about 24 degrees. 31:00.733 --> 31:03.566 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75% And we will occasionally have cold, cold enough winters, 31:03.566 --> 31:06.733 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% even along the coast, below 24 degrees, 31:06.733 --> 31:08.766 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5% which means essentially you're bringing them in 31:08.766 --> 31:12.133 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% or covering them at any point during their existence. 31:12.133 --> 31:13.666 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% And the big thing with starting from seed. 31:13.666 --> 31:17.033 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% So I get this question a lot, where you start from seeds 31:17.033 --> 31:19.700 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% similar to citrus, Avocados have 31:19.700 --> 31:21.000 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% what's known as a juvenility 31:21.000 --> 31:25.100 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% period in which you are basically nursing it along 31:25.100 --> 31:28.000 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and not getting any fruits or flowers from it 31:28.000 --> 31:29.700 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% for close to 10 to 12 years- 31:29.700 --> 31:30.800 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Amanda> -10 to 12 years? 31:30.800 --> 31:32.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Christopher>...which is a significant amount 31:32.500 --> 31:34.300 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% of time- Amanda> -to wait for an Avocado. 31:34.300 --> 31:35.600 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% Christopher> Exactly. 31:35.600 --> 31:37.300 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and then when it does finally flower, 31:37.300 --> 31:39.433 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% you have essentially a small tree 31:39.433 --> 31:42.133 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% that you then have to find either a big enough pot 31:42.133 --> 31:44.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% or put it out in the yard where it can be protected. 31:44.800 --> 31:48.200 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% That all being said, Avocados are one of those plants 31:48.200 --> 31:50.666 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% that I generally find more trouble than it's worth. 31:50.666 --> 31:54.500 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% not only is the cold tolerance a huge question, 31:54.500 --> 31:55.800 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% but there are several diseases 31:55.800 --> 31:57.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% that actually affect them as well, 31:57.533 --> 31:59.466 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and the one that I get the most concerned with... 31:59.466 --> 32:01.566 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% so along the coast, we used to have 32:01.566 --> 32:03.966 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% all these beautiful red bay trees. 32:03.966 --> 32:06.933 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Red bays are very close relatives to the Avocados. 32:06.933 --> 32:08.366 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% They're actually in the same genera. 32:08.366 --> 32:10.800 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and unfortunately, what happened 32:10.800 --> 32:14.066 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% is, is the ambrosia beetle spread laurel wilt. 32:14.066 --> 32:16.533 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% So any plant within the Lauraceae family 32:16.533 --> 32:20.166 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% is unfortunately going to have some susceptibility to it. 32:20.166 --> 32:22.133 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% And Avocados, it's one of the first things 32:22.133 --> 32:24.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% if you discuss Avocado growing anywhere, 32:24.600 --> 32:25.733 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% that's one of the first things 32:25.733 --> 32:27.833 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% you discuss is that possibility. 32:27.833 --> 32:30.600 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% And of course in Lowcountry where it's so prevalent, 32:30.600 --> 32:31.700 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% it's generally something 32:31.700 --> 32:33.200 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% I'm not usually going to recommend. 32:33.200 --> 32:34.266 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% I will say I've seen 32:34.266 --> 32:36.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% the occasional Avocado tree doing well, 32:36.633 --> 32:38.066 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% in downtown Charleston, 32:38.066 --> 32:39.466 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% where you have the heat island effect. 32:39.466 --> 32:43.433 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% So that kind of microclimate where it's nice and warm 32:43.433 --> 32:46.366 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% even there, though, we're not seeing necessarily 32:46.366 --> 32:47.633 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% Avocado groves. 32:47.633 --> 32:49.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% We're seeing a tree here and there. 32:49.400 --> 32:51.100 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% And the big thing with Avocados, 32:51.100 --> 32:53.833 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% if you grow one, you have to have another one 32:53.833 --> 32:54.800 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% to help pollinate, 32:54.800 --> 32:55.900 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% Amanda> Oh la, la, 32:55.900 --> 32:57.233 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% Christopher> which can unfortunately 32:57.233 --> 32:58.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% be a little bit tricky because, 32:58.666 --> 33:01.033 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% they have different pollination schedules. 33:01.033 --> 33:03.466 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% So you have to have a group A pollinator and a group 33:03.466 --> 33:04.466 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55% B pollinator 33:04.466 --> 33:05.633 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% because they're going to produce 33:05.633 --> 33:08.033 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and accept pollen at different times. 33:08.033 --> 33:10.666 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And you have to check to make sure that not only is 33:10.666 --> 33:12.500 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% it cold (tolerant) enough, but is it going to be able 33:12.500 --> 33:15.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% to pollinate the Avocado you currently have? 33:15.066 --> 33:16.200 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% Amanda> Goodness gracious. 33:16.200 --> 33:17.333 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% ...if you grew one, you wouldn't 33:17.333 --> 33:19.366 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% have any idea what it was. Christopher> Exactly. 33:19.366 --> 33:21.566 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% So I...it's a big one that I 33:21.566 --> 33:23.300 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% tend to discourage though 33:23.300 --> 33:25.900 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% I understand because they're getting expensive. 33:25.900 --> 33:26.966 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% Unfortunately it can be 33:26.966 --> 33:28.466 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% a little bit more work than it's worth. 33:28.466 --> 33:31.166 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Amanda> So really, the answer is no. 33:31.166 --> 33:32.433 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% Christopher> Really...yes. 33:32.433 --> 33:34.166 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Dr. Adam> That sounds like $40 worth of work 33:34.166 --> 33:35.433 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% for a $2 vegetable. 33:35.433 --> 33:37.633 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% Christopher> Exactly. (all laugh) 33:37.633 --> 33:39.533 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Amanda> But I love hearing that they've got to have 33:39.533 --> 33:41.000 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% pollinators. That's fascinating. 33:41.000 --> 33:42.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Christopher> Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And it's a beauty. 33:42.566 --> 33:44.333 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% I think it's a pretty tree. Though, as you say, 33:44.333 --> 33:46.433 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% it's not a very attractive houseplant. 33:46.433 --> 33:48.466 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Amanda> Yeah. No, no. These skinny little things. 33:48.466 --> 33:51.466 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5% (all laugh) 33:51.466 --> 33:53.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Well, Terasa, who else is in need of some guidance? 33:53.866 --> 33:55.000 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% Terasa> I'm a little disappointed 33:55.000 --> 33:56.900 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% because I do love Avocados. 33:56.900 --> 33:59.166 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Amanda> They sure are good. Terasa> Anyway. 33:59.166 --> 34:01.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Well, Larry reached out from Myrtle Beach, 34:01.333 --> 34:05.200 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and Larry is in luck because he has a question about grass. 34:05.200 --> 34:08.100 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% And we have our expert here. 34:08.100 --> 34:12.233 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% So Larry said, "I have Torpedo grass in my Bermuda lawn. 34:12.233 --> 34:14.266 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% "What can I do?" 34:14.266 --> 34:17.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Amanda> Well, Adam, I don't know what Torpedo grass is. 34:17.600 --> 34:20.533 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% But I guess, it's something that this person doesn't want. 34:20.533 --> 34:25.066 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% Dr. Adam> So Torpedo grass is, in my opinion, 34:25.066 --> 34:28.233 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% one of the top three most difficult grassy weeds 34:28.233 --> 34:30.400 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% to control in the world. Amanda> Oh, my Lord. 34:30.400 --> 34:35.033 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65% >> So, it was brought to the Gulf Coast areas 34:35.033 --> 34:37.800 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% as a potential forage for livestock, 34:37.800 --> 34:40.433 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% as a lot of our- 34:40.433 --> 34:41.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Amanda> -It was purposely introduced. 34:41.800 --> 34:43.666 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Dr. Adam> It was purposely introduced. 34:43.666 --> 34:46.200 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Amanda> Like kudzu. Dr. Adam> Like...kudzu. 34:46.200 --> 34:48.833 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% But, it turns out that cattle 34:48.833 --> 34:50.300 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% don't really get a lot from it. 34:50.300 --> 34:54.066 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% So, as all of our introduced plants do, 34:54.066 --> 34:55.200 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% they find a place 34:55.200 --> 34:57.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% where they can take hold and they start to spread. 34:57.566 --> 35:01.400 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% So torpedo grass looks a lot like the Zoysia grass does. 35:01.400 --> 35:02.900 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% It's going to be very stiff. 35:02.900 --> 35:04.500 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% And the leaves are hairy, 35:04.500 --> 35:07.700 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% but it loves moist areas. 35:07.700 --> 35:11.066 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% So, it's particularly a problem 35:11.066 --> 35:14.666 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% along the coastal regions, along, ditch banks 35:14.666 --> 35:17.733 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and in, marsh areas that stay damp. 35:19.200 --> 35:23.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And the reason its such a problem is that the rhizomes. 35:23.100 --> 35:24.433 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% So there's underground stems, 35:24.433 --> 35:26.500 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and the roots can go six feet deep. 35:26.500 --> 35:28.600 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% Amanda> Six feet deep? 35:28.600 --> 35:32.266 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Dr. Adam> So trying to find a way to control a plant- 35:32.266 --> 35:33.833 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Amanda> Six feet down into the soil? 35:33.833 --> 35:37.566 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Dr. Adam> So everyone gets, all a fuss about how deep the roots 35:37.566 --> 35:40.533 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% are on the lawn, native grasses...can get. 35:40.533 --> 35:43.866 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Well, some of these invasive weeds can do the same. 35:43.866 --> 35:45.900 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% So that's one of the biggest issues 35:45.900 --> 35:48.633 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% in controlling this plant. 35:48.633 --> 35:51.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So fortunately for Larry, he does have a grass 35:51.766 --> 35:53.233 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% that's a little bit more tolerant 35:53.233 --> 35:56.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% to some of the options that we do have. 35:56.333 --> 35:59.600 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% So most of the time it ends up being that you have to spray 35:59.600 --> 36:00.900 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% with these nonselective, 36:00.900 --> 36:05.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% like a glyphosate product and just start over. 36:05.400 --> 36:06.733 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% But you have- Amanda> -the whole yard? 36:06.733 --> 36:09.566 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% >> Well, at least where the plant is, <Amanda> Where it is. 36:09.566 --> 36:12.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% >> But with as aggressive as these stolons are, 36:12.800 --> 36:14.133 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% you're looking at probably having 36:14.133 --> 36:18.333 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% to spray anywhere from 4 to 6 times 36:18.333 --> 36:20.366 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% just to control this Torpedo grass. 36:20.366 --> 36:21.633 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% Amanda> Golly, Pete! 36:21.633 --> 36:23.666 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% That's a lot. Dr. Adam> So, 36:25.133 --> 36:27.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% if he doesn't want to go the nonselective route, 36:27.000 --> 36:29.966 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% there is a product called Quinclorac. 36:29.966 --> 36:32.066 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% It's, if you ever see a product that's, 36:32.066 --> 36:34.400 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% described as crabgrass killer, 36:34.400 --> 36:37.166 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% it's normally a Quinclorac product, 36:37.166 --> 36:39.966 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% but he's going to have to spray it 36:39.966 --> 36:44.300 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% three times, 21 days apart for at least two years. 36:45.266 --> 36:46.400 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% Terasa> Two years? 36:46.400 --> 36:48.166 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Dr. Adam>He can only do it three times a year 36:48.166 --> 36:51.633 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% because that's the maximum legal allowable rate. 36:53.133 --> 36:54.400 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% Amanda> And for how many years? 36:54.400 --> 36:55.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Adam> At least for 2 to 3 years. 36:55.933 --> 36:59.300 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% because you're essentially having to starve the plant. 36:59.300 --> 37:04.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Um...so, because of how serious that problem is, 37:04.366 --> 37:07.700 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% we really encourage people if they're bring in field dirt 37:07.700 --> 37:10.000 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% because that's how, this plant spreads. 37:10.000 --> 37:12.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And a lot of our invasive plants in general. 37:12.566 --> 37:14.100 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% You know, they hide in field dirt, 37:14.100 --> 37:16.366 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% that people bring in for construction. 37:16.366 --> 37:20.566 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% or, any type of laying for landscape, 37:20.566 --> 37:24.700 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% bring in just small segments of weedy or invasive plants. 37:24.700 --> 37:29.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So really, you know, try to get, reputable sources, 37:29.300 --> 37:32.166 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% to...for that field dirt 37:32.166 --> 37:35.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% so that you have a limit to reduce chance. 37:35.433 --> 37:38.700 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Also, if you have a landscape company, 37:38.700 --> 37:42.100 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% ask that they do try to rinse their mowers off 37:42.100 --> 37:45.866 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% so we don't have the transport of potential weed seeds 37:45.866 --> 37:48.766 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% between yards. So there's no 37:50.500 --> 37:55.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% formula or...acceptable parameters for topsoil. 37:55.633 --> 37:57.900 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% It's just whatever you can get. Right? Right. 37:57.900 --> 38:02.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% so you do have companies that will try to, 38:02.866 --> 38:05.266 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% certify their topsoil. 38:05.266 --> 38:09.733 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% In terms of curing it, pretty much seeing it 38:09.733 --> 38:12.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% through a heat treatment to try to sanitize it. 38:12.866 --> 38:15.466 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% Amanda> Really. >> That's going to cost this. 38:15.466 --> 38:18.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% So you're going to have increased prices, 38:18.333 --> 38:19.500 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% and a lot of people 38:19.500 --> 38:21.200 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and they just think, well, I just need fill dirt 38:21.200 --> 38:23.766 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% or they're looking for massive amounts. 38:23.766 --> 38:26.400 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% So, they're not looking for quality. 38:26.400 --> 38:27.500 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% We're looking for quantity. 38:27.500 --> 38:28.766 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% Amanda> Well, and when people come 38:28.766 --> 38:30.866 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% so many people are moving here Terasa, 38:30.866 --> 38:33.366 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% and lots of developments are going up. 38:33.366 --> 38:35.333 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% And the developer 38:35.333 --> 38:37.566 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% has done all the work before they get there. 38:37.566 --> 38:40.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% So they didn't have any control over what 38:40.333 --> 38:41.633 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% topsoil or filter. 38:41.633 --> 38:42.833 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% Christopher> And a lot of that soil 38:42.833 --> 38:44.766 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% is being moved around too. When they develop, 38:44.766 --> 38:46.733 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% they scrape it clean and then they move it, 38:46.733 --> 38:48.166 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% sell it off to someone else. 38:48.166 --> 38:51.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And that's oftentimes how that's being spread around. 38:51.400 --> 38:53.066 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And you're just seeing that more and more 38:53.066 --> 38:55.000 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% as the developments spread. 38:55.000 --> 38:56.466 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% Amanda> And getting a cow won't help? 38:56.466 --> 38:57.566 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5% (all laugh) 38:57.566 --> 38:59.466 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% You know, well...shoot... 38:59.466 --> 39:01.833 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% I mean, that...(laughs) 39:01.833 --> 39:03.066 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% Well, shoot! Terasa> Probably not allowable 39:03.066 --> 39:08.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% in most HOAs. (all laugh) I like the creative thinking. 39:08.300 --> 39:11.066 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Amanda> Cows are kind of fun, you know. 39:11.066 --> 39:13.633 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Okay, well, okay Terasa. 39:13.633 --> 39:15.933 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% That was kind of a discouraging question, 39:15.933 --> 39:17.566 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% but thanks for at least giving him 39:17.566 --> 39:19.433 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% an option I really appreciate it. 39:19.433 --> 39:21.433 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Is that a herbicide that he can afford? 39:21.433 --> 39:22.666 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Dr. Adam> Yes, ma'am. Amanda> It's not 39:22.666 --> 39:23.833 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% horribly expensive. Dr. Adam> No. 39:23.833 --> 39:27.000 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% So a lot of these, Quinclorac products are very, 39:27.000 --> 39:29.033 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% because that product's been around for so long, 39:29.033 --> 39:30.366 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% you can get them in generic form. 39:30.366 --> 39:32.666 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% So they're can (be) very cheap 39:32.666 --> 39:33.866 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% compared to a lot of other options. 39:33.866 --> 39:35.966 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Amanda> Okay. Well thanks for that happy news. 39:35.966 --> 39:38.633 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Dr. Adam> Yes, ma'am. Amanda> All right, Terasa. 39:38.633 --> 39:41.300 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Terasa> Well this one is a pretty simple question. 39:41.300 --> 39:43.233 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% It came in from Mary in Summerville. 39:43.233 --> 39:46.366 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% She said, she has a weed in her yard, 39:46.366 --> 39:49.166 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and she would like us to help her identify it. 39:49.166 --> 39:50.366 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Amanda> Well, Christopher, I think you looked 39:50.366 --> 39:53.200 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% at that picture and, came up with an answer. 39:53.200 --> 39:54.666 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Christopher> Well, because it's easy to find. 39:54.666 --> 39:59.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% so I brought in a sample pulled in from a drive or, 39:59.066 --> 40:01.400 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% parking lot. Actually, it was a gravel parking lot. 40:01.400 --> 40:04.100 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% So, tells you how easily this thing grows, 40:04.100 --> 40:06.833 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% but the weed itself is called poor man's pepper, or 40:06.833 --> 40:11.366 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% pepper wart or pepper grass there's a 100 different names. 40:11.366 --> 40:13.966 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% but the pepper part is, I find very interesting. 40:13.966 --> 40:18.066 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% So it's a plant that's in the Brassica family, and so- 40:18.066 --> 40:20.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Amanda> Tell people what that means, 40:20.200 --> 40:21.466 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% Christopher> which means it's 40:21.466 --> 40:24.666 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% related to, like, broccoli, collards, things like that. 40:24.666 --> 40:26.966 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% and the big thing with that is, is a lot of plants 40:26.966 --> 40:30.066 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% in that family are at least remotely edible. 40:30.066 --> 40:31.433 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% but the nice thing about 40:31.433 --> 40:34.700 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% this one is it's got a slight peppery taste. 40:34.700 --> 40:37.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Amanda> I mean, I'd love to pick it up when I'm out walking 40:37.233 --> 40:40.100 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Christopher> The foliage, is can be put in salads. 40:40.100 --> 40:42.966 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% It has a similar not quite as rich as arugula 40:42.966 --> 40:45.333 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% but it has kind of a similar pepperiness to it. 40:45.333 --> 40:49.066 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% And the, the immature seed pods can actually be 40:49.066 --> 40:52.466 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% used as an alternative to black pepper corn, 40:52.466 --> 40:55.000 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% which of course does not grow here. It's not native here. 40:55.000 --> 40:57.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Amanda> So this is native Christopher> This is native here 40:57.533 --> 40:59.100 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% So while it's a weed, 40:59.100 --> 41:01.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% unfortunately most people don't really like it, 41:01.500 --> 41:03.333 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% you're not really cultivating it. 41:03.333 --> 41:05.100 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% If you happen to see it out, 41:05.100 --> 41:07.566 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% again, that the foliage is, is quite tasty, 41:07.566 --> 41:09.333 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% and it grows just about anywhere 41:09.333 --> 41:11.533 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and is quite an interesting little plant. 41:11.533 --> 41:14.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Amanda> Well, and Terasa, it can get kind of big, 41:14.866 --> 41:17.966 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% and, it's beautiful dried. 41:17.966 --> 41:21.366 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Terasa> Oh, that I can see being used in an arrangement. 41:21.366 --> 41:24.266 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Christopher> Yeah. Well, it's got these disc shaped seed pods. 41:24.266 --> 41:25.433 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% I mean, those flowers 41:25.433 --> 41:27.466 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% kind of come out. They're white. 41:27.466 --> 41:30.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% They're not super showy, but those seed pods persist, 41:30.966 --> 41:32.200 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% even when it dies. 41:32.200 --> 41:34.266 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% And of course, when it dies, it's got this nice, 41:34.266 --> 41:37.066 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% interesting shape with its interesting seed pods. 41:37.066 --> 41:39.200 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% I think it's quite, quite attractive, dry. 41:39.200 --> 41:41.466 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Amanda> And it's not found in turf grass. 41:41.466 --> 41:43.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% It's not a problem there. (laughter) 41:43.800 --> 41:47.566 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Dr. Adam> If it was. Brassicas are fairly easy to maintain- 41:47.566 --> 41:49.033 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Amanda> But I've never seen. I mean, 41:49.033 --> 41:50.233 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% you usually just kind of see it 41:50.233 --> 41:51.766 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% when you're walking around the side of the road 41:51.766 --> 41:53.900 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and you know, cracks and things like that. 41:53.900 --> 41:55.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Well thanks, Christopher. That was a lot of fun, and 41:55.933 --> 41:57.233 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% I'm going to pit some of that 41:57.233 --> 41:59.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and had it with my lunch, if that's okay. 41:59.100 --> 42:03.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I think it's wonderful to see how farmers, 42:03.000 --> 42:04.366 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% especially down in, 42:04.366 --> 42:06.766 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% you know, they might specialize in one thing 42:06.766 --> 42:08.466 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and it's hard for them to find a market 42:08.466 --> 42:10.333 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% for things and transport it there and all that. 42:10.333 --> 42:12.133 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% And so there's a movement to... 42:12.133 --> 42:14.000 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% to make it easier for them to do that, 42:14.000 --> 42:16.966 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and one of the places is GrowFood Carolina. 42:20.400 --> 42:22.166 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% Amanda> I'm in Charleston, South Carolina, 42:22.166 --> 42:24.033 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% talking to Benton Montgomery. 42:24.033 --> 42:28.966 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% And you're the program director for GrowFood Carolina. 42:28.966 --> 42:31.466 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and I think you all are under the umbrella of the 42:31.466 --> 42:33.066 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% Coastal Conservation League. 42:33.066 --> 42:36.033 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% So tell us about your, parent organization 42:36.033 --> 42:38.000 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and about y'all. Benton> Absolutely 42:38.000 --> 42:39.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80% The Coastal Conservation League, 42:39.500 --> 42:43.300 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70% saw the need to preserve the rural resources, 42:43.300 --> 42:46.133 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5% down here along the coast, they saw the development 42:46.133 --> 42:47.966 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% kind of encroaching and wanted to provide, 42:47.966 --> 42:50.466 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% situation to where farmers could stay on their land 42:50.466 --> 42:53.333 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% to protect this beautiful, land, water, and wildlife 42:53.333 --> 42:54.700 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% we have in the area. 42:54.700 --> 42:58.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And so, they created the GrowFood Carolina program, 42:58.300 --> 43:00.433 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% where we are a nonprofit food hub 43:00.433 --> 43:03.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% that helps those growers, find markets for their, 43:03.933 --> 43:07.000 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% different produce, as well as offering services 43:07.000 --> 43:09.000 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% to connect them to different resources 43:09.000 --> 43:11.800 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% like grants, as well as crop planning and stuff like that 43:11.800 --> 43:13.100 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% then, should go with 43:13.100 --> 43:14.533 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% with the main goal of preserving 43:14.533 --> 43:18.266 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% many acres of land for, rural, use that we can 43:18.266 --> 43:19.766 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Amanda> because you've got great farmers. 43:19.766 --> 43:21.900 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% But how in the world could you be a farmer 43:21.900 --> 43:25.400 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and figure out who was gonna, you know, to whom you could, 43:25.400 --> 43:29.100 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% you know, take your products and, and then get them there 43:29.100 --> 43:30.800 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% driving all over east Carolina, 43:30.800 --> 43:32.300 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% you know, trying to get all that done. 43:32.300 --> 43:34.766 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And y'all kind of... do all of that for them. 43:34.766 --> 43:36.800 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% All they have to do is get stuff here I believe. 43:36.800 --> 43:37.933 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% Benton> That's right. So we provide 43:37.933 --> 43:40.166 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% the aggregate, aggregation to store the food here 43:40.166 --> 43:42.300 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and then the distribution. We have the sales team 43:42.300 --> 43:43.866 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% that has great networks amongst 43:43.866 --> 43:46.366 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% all the different restaurants here in Charleston, 43:46.366 --> 43:47.500 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% as well, Savannah, Columbia, 43:47.500 --> 43:50.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Greenville, Hilton Head, and Bluffton as well. 43:50.966 --> 43:52.533 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% I know this is expanded a lot- 43:52.533 --> 43:55.533 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Amanda> And so about how many farmers do your deal with 43:55.533 --> 43:56.900 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% in this area now, what you think? 43:56.900 --> 43:58.766 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Benton> It's about, about 100 total farmers 43:58.766 --> 44:01.400 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% that stretch all across the entire state, north, 44:01.400 --> 44:03.133 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% our focus and most of our growers 44:03.133 --> 44:05.033 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% are kind of down here in the Lowcountry. 44:05.033 --> 44:06.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Amanda> Lots of farmers, lots of restaurants. 44:06.866 --> 44:09.033 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% How do you make it all come together? 44:09.033 --> 44:10.366 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Benton> So we have an awesome team 44:10.366 --> 44:12.466 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% that is constantly communicating with our growers 44:12.466 --> 44:13.733 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% to find out what their availability 44:13.733 --> 44:15.733 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% is going to be, how the weather is affecting it, 44:15.733 --> 44:17.500 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% how much they're going to have available, 44:17.500 --> 44:19.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and they're communicating with our sales team 44:19.000 --> 44:20.400 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% to find out, okay, it's 44:20.400 --> 44:22.300 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% going to show up on this day, this many cases. 44:22.300 --> 44:24.033 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% They're on the phone with the different restaurants 44:24.033 --> 44:26.566 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and then updating our avail- ability list, which is kind 44:26.566 --> 44:29.466 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% of like a live look in on what we're going to have, on site 44:29.466 --> 44:31.166 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% so that, chefs can come to the warehouse 44:31.166 --> 44:34.133 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% or they can place an order and we'll deliver to them. 44:34.133 --> 44:36.000 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Amanda> Along the same lines as what y'all want to do, 44:36.000 --> 44:38.333 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% The South Carolina Department of Agriculture 44:38.333 --> 44:39.666 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% promotes fresh on the menu, 44:39.666 --> 44:42.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% which ties in beautifully with your concerns. 44:42.166 --> 44:44.966 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Benton> No, it does, and it's all about kind of, you know, 44:44.966 --> 44:47.766 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% providing consumer education around seasonality. 44:47.766 --> 44:49.300 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% And some of them, have had a great relationship 44:49.300 --> 44:51.200 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% with SCDA for, for a long time, 44:51.200 --> 44:53.266 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% and helping with those kind of resources. 44:54.500 --> 44:56.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Amanda> I followed, y'all during the pandemic, 44:56.500 --> 44:59.566 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% of course, all the restaurants were closed. 44:59.566 --> 45:01.233 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% And that was the basis of your 45:01.233 --> 45:03.066 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% whole operation there between the farmers 45:03.066 --> 45:04.533 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% and the restaurants. 45:04.533 --> 45:08.666 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% And y'all started some pretty incredible outreach programs. 45:08.666 --> 45:10.733 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Benton> No, we did and you're right, it was like, 45:10.733 --> 45:12.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% all of a sudden there's all this produce had been planned, 45:12.666 --> 45:13.900 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% for the...for the year, 45:13.900 --> 45:15.300 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and then there were no restaurants 45:15.300 --> 45:16.566 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% to really sell to at that time. 45:16.566 --> 45:20.500 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And so we developed, the Soil to Sustenance program 45:20.500 --> 45:22.233 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% at GrowFood Carolina, which, 45:22.233 --> 45:25.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% we bring in funds to then build boxes, 45:25.866 --> 45:27.933 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% or we purchase produce from the farmers 45:27.933 --> 45:30.133 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% with those funds, and then build boxes 45:30.133 --> 45:31.533 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% and then work with other organizations 45:31.533 --> 45:34.000 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% to make sure we're getting those out to those in need. 45:34.000 --> 45:36.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So everything was growing and ready to be harvested, 45:36.300 --> 45:38.666 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and now we had funds to purchase that. 45:38.666 --> 45:42.366 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% The way that we kind of fuel our, Soil to Sustenance program 45:42.366 --> 45:45.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% is through our direct, GrowFood Carolina boxes 45:45.000 --> 45:47.566 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% that we sell to our, the public 45:47.566 --> 45:49.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and to different donors, that we... 45:49.800 --> 45:53.533 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% they will buy a box and also donate funds to the, 45:53.533 --> 45:57.066 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Soil to Sustenance program to fund that food access side, 45:57.066 --> 46:00.400 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% which then kind of morphed into our working with the 46:00.400 --> 46:02.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Head Start programs here in Charleston County, 46:02.833 --> 46:04.266 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% where we've partnered with different 46:04.266 --> 46:06.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% health care organizations like, Diabetes for USC 46:06.966 --> 46:12.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and the MUSC Boeing... Center for Children's Wellness. 46:12.133 --> 46:14.200 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And they've provided partnerships 46:14.200 --> 46:16.666 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% and funding for us to purchase produce 46:16.666 --> 46:20.066 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% to then, distribute to about 900 or so families 46:20.066 --> 46:23.033 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% on the every other week basis here in Charleston County 46:23.033 --> 46:24.700 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% to about 13 to 14 different schools. 46:24.700 --> 46:28.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% So we have...the growers bring all that produce to us. 46:28.300 --> 46:30.600 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and then we use, a volunteer group 46:30.600 --> 46:33.400 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% to build the boxes, and then we distribute 46:33.400 --> 46:34.600 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% out to the different schools there. 46:34.600 --> 46:37.100 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% And that's been a really big game changer for us, 46:37.100 --> 46:38.833 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% how we're able to plan with certain growers 46:38.833 --> 46:40.200 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% and then even sell products 46:40.200 --> 46:42.866 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% that we don't sell as much to restaurants like, 46:42.866 --> 46:44.500 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% cabbage, collards, and sweet potatoes... 46:44.500 --> 46:47.100 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% been able to help us really, increase the volume 46:47.100 --> 46:49.066 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% for those type of, products- 46:49.066 --> 46:50.933 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Amanda>-which the consumers are delighted to have. 46:50.933 --> 46:52.066 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Benton> Yeah, absolutely. 46:52.066 --> 46:53.400 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% Amanda> And I think occasionally, 46:53.400 --> 46:55.366 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% if there's something in there that's a little bit different, 46:55.366 --> 46:59.300 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% you'll sometimes even have people develop menus, 46:59.300 --> 47:00.533 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% or recipes, and, 47:00.533 --> 47:04.200 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% and you communicate with the children and their parents 47:04.200 --> 47:06.200 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% so that you can get them to try new things. 47:06.200 --> 47:09.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Benton> Right. And so, providing recipes has been a big part 47:09.166 --> 47:10.400 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% of that program as well, 47:10.400 --> 47:13.766 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and making sure to partner with folks who can... 47:13.766 --> 47:16.900 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% also providing kind of like, education around the nutrition 47:16.900 --> 47:18.933 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% and actually preparing the meals as well, 47:18.933 --> 47:21.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I think is a fundamental part of the, the process, 47:21.866 --> 47:23.600 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% which is kind of where we got with the, 47:23.600 --> 47:26.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% the virtual taste test that we started about a year 47:26.600 --> 47:28.300 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% and a half or so ago- Amanda>A virtual taste test? 47:28.300 --> 47:30.166 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% So lets talk about that. 47:30.166 --> 47:33.166 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Benton> We will deliver fruits to different, schools. 47:33.166 --> 47:35.600 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% so we've worked different, schools districts, 47:35.600 --> 47:40.000 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% we've worked with, Barnwell, with Anderson, Beaufort, 47:40.000 --> 47:42.300 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Hampton, several different school districts. 47:42.300 --> 47:45.033 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% And we'll deliver the produce directly to the schools. 47:45.033 --> 47:46.600 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% And then the next day we'll jump on 47:46.600 --> 47:49.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% to a virtual taste test where we'll talk about 47:49.133 --> 47:50.833 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% the different nutritional aspects, 47:50.833 --> 47:52.933 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% kind of some of the science and history 47:52.933 --> 47:55.033 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% behind different varieties of fruit. 47:55.033 --> 47:56.566 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% And then we taste the fruit together 47:56.566 --> 47:57.700 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% and then the most fun 47:57.700 --> 47:59.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% is taking the questions and answers from the, 47:59.233 --> 48:00.766 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% from the elementary school kids. 48:00.766 --> 48:04.400 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% You know, they provide the real interesting, moments there. 48:04.400 --> 48:05.533 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% Amanda> Because some of them 48:05.533 --> 48:07.333 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% may not have even had blueberries before 48:07.333 --> 48:08.766 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% or some of the other things 48:08.766 --> 48:10.333 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% that you provide sometimes Benton> Definitely, 48:10.333 --> 48:12.833 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% and, and so...they love to learn about the way it grows 48:12.833 --> 48:14.433 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% because they haven't seen it growing in action. 48:14.433 --> 48:17.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% So that's always a fun part, as well. 48:17.000 --> 48:19.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And just to get something so fresh versus 48:19.700 --> 48:20.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% some of the grocery store stuff, 48:20.866 --> 48:22.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% they're always excited about that. 48:22.233 --> 48:24.733 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Amanda> So that's become a major part 48:24.733 --> 48:26.566 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% of your mission statement now. 48:26.566 --> 48:28.200 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% Benton> It has. It absolutely has. 48:28.200 --> 48:32.233 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% And it's, really been able to still crop plant 48:32.233 --> 48:34.233 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% in certain ways and also just engage back 48:34.233 --> 48:35.800 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% with community, with the public, 48:35.800 --> 48:36.933 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% and which it also, 48:36.933 --> 48:39.700 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% for our employees and teams here, really love. 48:39.700 --> 48:40.833 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5% And I think, you know, 48:40.833 --> 48:42.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% you've seen some of them as well as spoken with them, 48:42.766 --> 48:44.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% they love the food access side of things. 48:44.300 --> 48:46.000 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Because it does, it feels good, 48:46.000 --> 48:47.366 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% It always feels good to sell to restaurants 48:47.366 --> 48:48.500 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% cause you're helping with the growers, 48:48.500 --> 48:49.633 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% it feels even better, 48:49.633 --> 48:50.966 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% when you do the full circle thing 48:50.966 --> 48:53.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and then, you know, feed the community, like 48:53.300 --> 48:55.266 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% like that from the, the awesome produce 48:55.266 --> 48:56.933 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5% you get from our growers in the area. 48:57.933 --> 49:00.766 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Amanda> Benton, the original mission, which was to help 49:00.766 --> 49:03.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% farmers keep their family lands in the family 49:03.333 --> 49:06.500 align:left position:22.5% line:59% size:67.5% and to let restaurants showcase how wonderful 49:06.500 --> 49:08.266 align:left position:20% line:59% size:70% the food that our farmers grow is, 49:08.266 --> 49:09.933 align:left position:15% line:59% size:75% was already pretty exciting, 49:09.933 --> 49:11.900 align:left position:40% line:59% size:50% but now, with the Soil To Sustenance, 49:11.900 --> 49:15.600 align:left position:15% line:59% size:75% and getting things to people who would never get to go 49:15.600 --> 49:16.700 align:left position:17.5% line:59% size:72.5% to these fancy restaurants 49:16.700 --> 49:18.466 align:left position:35% line:59% size:55% and all that, and getting children 49:18.466 --> 49:20.766 align:left position:12.5% line:59% size:77.5% to understand what's happening in their local communities, 49:20.766 --> 49:23.200 align:left position:27.5% line:59% size:62.5% what's being grown and where it all comes from. 49:23.200 --> 49:26.800 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% It's just a wonderful idea that you all have, 49:26.800 --> 49:29.000 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and I'm so happy that you've been able 49:29.000 --> 49:32.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% to expand it and make it what it is now. Thank you. 49:32.000 --> 49:33.200 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Benton> Thank you so much, Amanda. 49:33.200 --> 49:35.100 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% We appreciate you highlighting us here, 49:35.100 --> 49:38.900 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% us, in the story is, we look to improve as much, 49:38.900 --> 49:41.166 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% you know, food access in the area that we can. 49:43.266 --> 49:45.600 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Amanda> I hope you enjoyed learning about that and seeing 49:45.600 --> 49:48.000 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% how they're trying to get kids to try different foods. 49:48.000 --> 49:49.833 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% It's just a great organization. 49:49.833 --> 49:51.900 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% We've had a good time going down there. 49:51.900 --> 49:54.833 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% Well Terasa, who else can we help? 49:54.833 --> 49:58.533 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Terasa> We are hopefully going to help Janet in Edisto Island. 49:58.533 --> 50:01.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% I can feel the distress in these words. She says, 50:01.700 --> 50:03.766 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% "I can't seem to get anything 50:03.766 --> 50:07.400 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% "to grow in my yard between the sandy soil and the deer. 50:07.400 --> 50:09.200 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% "Do you have any ideas?" 50:09.200 --> 50:10.100 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% Amanda> Goodness gracious. 50:10.100 --> 50:11.900 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% And deer, you know, 50:11.900 --> 50:14.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% with all the development that's going on, 50:14.033 --> 50:16.866 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% they really are having to go anywhere and everywhere 50:16.866 --> 50:18.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% to try to find something to eat. 50:18.233 --> 50:19.866 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% Terasa> They're a big problem for our, 50:19.866 --> 50:22.933 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% for our larger Ag producers, as well. 50:22.933 --> 50:25.066 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% Soybeans, I know, are a favorite. 50:25.066 --> 50:29.133 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% So I know we have, some folks doing research on 50:29.133 --> 50:32.800 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% how, how we can effectively deal with that deer pressure. 50:32.800 --> 50:34.233 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% Amanda> Oh, gracious goodness. 50:34.233 --> 50:35.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Well, what do you think, Christopher? 50:35.966 --> 50:38.666 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% Christopher> Well, one of the things that I always 50:38.666 --> 50:41.533 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% tend to turn to when it comes to deer, are grasses. 50:41.533 --> 50:43.233 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% And so oftentimes 50:43.233 --> 50:46.833 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% grasses are things that deer will browse on, 50:46.833 --> 50:48.333 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% but it really doesn't affect the plant, 50:48.333 --> 50:49.800 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% and generally they're not going to like it 50:49.800 --> 50:51.833 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% nearly as much as other things. 50:51.833 --> 50:53.200 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% And so there's lots of different 50:53.200 --> 50:56.233 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% native grasses that can be grown. 50:56.233 --> 50:58.433 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Obviously, they're not going to touch your turf grass 50:58.433 --> 51:00.433 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% for the most part, but they're also generally 51:00.433 --> 51:02.966 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% not going to touch a lot of ornamental grasses, 51:02.966 --> 51:04.266 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% especially the native ones. 51:04.266 --> 51:06.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So things like your sweet grass, things like your Switch grass, 51:06.766 --> 51:09.633 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% things like your Fakahatchee, any of those. 51:09.633 --> 51:12.666 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% And so I find a lot of those really work well, 51:12.666 --> 51:14.800 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% and generally you're not necessarily 51:14.800 --> 51:16.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% the most difficult ones to find, 51:16.633 --> 51:18.700 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% especially with the kind of emergence 51:18.700 --> 51:21.066 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% of a lot of these native plant groups, 51:21.066 --> 51:22.233 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% whether it's a native plant society, 51:22.233 --> 51:24.533 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% whether it's these nurseries that are producing them. 51:24.533 --> 51:26.633 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% And of course, a lot of them are really starting 51:26.633 --> 51:28.900 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% to encourage those native grasses. 51:30.366 --> 51:33.533 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% And the other group that I really love to see more of, 51:33.533 --> 51:35.733 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and especially if you have a little bit of shade, 51:35.733 --> 51:37.633 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% are what's known as sedges, 51:37.633 --> 51:40.766 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% specifically sedges in the Carex genus. 51:40.766 --> 51:43.200 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% Of course, Carex is a very large genus, 51:43.200 --> 51:45.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% it's one of the largest, in the world. 51:45.433 --> 51:47.700 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% And of course, there's so many different types we have. 51:47.700 --> 51:51.133 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% I mean, 100 different species here in South Carolina, 51:51.133 --> 51:53.800 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% but there are several that work really well, kind of as 51:53.800 --> 51:56.133 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% that kind of grass like plant. 51:56.133 --> 51:59.066 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% And of course, deer do not like sedges at all. 51:59.066 --> 52:01.466 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Amanda> Sedges have edges. Christopher> Sedges have edges. 52:01.466 --> 52:03.566 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% And so oftentimes those will work really well, 52:03.566 --> 52:04.900 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5% especially because 52:04.900 --> 52:07.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% they're already found oftentimes in those sandy soils. 52:07.566 --> 52:10.966 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% Amanda> Adam, do the native grasses have a deep taproot 52:10.966 --> 52:14.233 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% or is the root system pretty extensive, sometimes? 52:14.233 --> 52:16.600 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Dr. Adam> So with a lot of our, our native plants, 52:16.600 --> 52:17.866 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% they, they do have a reputation 52:17.866 --> 52:20.633 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% for having deeper roots because we don't mow them, 52:20.633 --> 52:22.466 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% we're not constantly pruning the top of them 52:22.466 --> 52:25.200 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% so it allows their root system to develop further. 52:25.200 --> 52:26.800 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Amanda> That's why it happens? Dr. Adam> Yes, ma'am. 52:26.800 --> 52:28.600 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% So, you know, as you kind of plant 52:28.600 --> 52:31.333 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% all that energy has to go back into regeneration, 52:31.333 --> 52:34.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% so it's, it's stealing from the roots, essentially. 52:34.333 --> 52:36.666 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% But like Chris was saying, 52:36.666 --> 52:38.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% especially with our sandy soils, 52:38.500 --> 52:41.066 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% they are typically very low fertility. 52:41.066 --> 52:45.266 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% So our native grasses from, 52:45.266 --> 52:48.000 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% the, the Midlands now have developed, 52:48.000 --> 52:52.933 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% kind of to be sustainable in very poor low fertility soil. 52:52.933 --> 52:56.333 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% So whereas, with as much as it pains me, 52:56.333 --> 52:57.866 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% whereas a turf grass may be a little bit 52:57.866 --> 53:00.500 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% more maintenance because of poor soil, 53:00.500 --> 53:01.700 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% these native grasses, 53:01.700 --> 53:03.700 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% they're adapted to it, they can tolerate it. 53:03.700 --> 53:05.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And the other nice thing about native grasses 53:05.700 --> 53:09.033 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% is because there's been more of an emphasis on it. 53:09.033 --> 53:11.566 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% we do have various cultivars of it. 53:11.566 --> 53:15.533 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% It's not just, what you see, naturally- 53:15.533 --> 53:16.666 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Amanda> If you were walking around 53:16.666 --> 53:19.500 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% Dr. Adam> So, you can get various, colors. 53:19.500 --> 53:23.533 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% but then also with grasses... 53:23.533 --> 53:24.733 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% they're under appreciated 53:24.733 --> 53:27.633 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% for they're texture that they bring to a landscape. 53:27.633 --> 53:32.300 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% You have so many different colors and feels to them- 53:32.300 --> 53:34.000 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Amanda> And they're different heights? 53:34.000 --> 53:36.000 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% Dr. Adam> Exactly. So, you know, 53:36.000 --> 53:37.866 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% I believe the very one of the more 53:37.866 --> 53:41.500 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% under appreciated parts of the landscape because of, 53:41.500 --> 53:42.866 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% not just their color but texture. 53:42.866 --> 53:44.766 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% But then also they do have flowers. 53:44.766 --> 53:47.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% People don't appreciate the flowers of grasses, 53:47.900 --> 53:50.966 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% but they do have, you know, various looks to them. 53:50.966 --> 53:53.633 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% So, broomsedge, everyone thinks about 53:53.633 --> 53:57.666 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% having those, speckled little, feathery parts on them. 53:57.666 --> 54:01.100 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% those are flower seed heads. 54:01.100 --> 54:03.233 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% And...they add a nice texture to a landscape 54:03.233 --> 54:05.633 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% that, as Chris was saying, are not palatable to, 54:05.633 --> 54:09.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% deer, deer, more forbs and prefer broadleaf and well, 54:09.600 --> 54:12.333 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% Amanda> Well will they spread from seeds or? 54:13.533 --> 54:16.933 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% Dr. Adam> So when establishing some of these plants, 54:16.933 --> 54:18.733 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% we find that the germination 54:18.733 --> 54:22.800 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% rate for their, their, seeds are low, 54:22.800 --> 54:26.666 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% and also for a lot of these native grasses, they 54:26.666 --> 54:30.266 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% evolved with the development of fire. 54:30.266 --> 54:34.666 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5% So they do require, either some type of stratification, 54:34.666 --> 54:36.066 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% or scarification. 54:36.066 --> 54:39.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% So the seed has to be disturbed, or you do have to have 54:39.000 --> 54:41.000 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% some type of temperature inversion 54:41.000 --> 54:43.500 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5% to actually encourage them to develop. 54:43.500 --> 54:46.366 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% Amanda> Well, should I buy... 54:46.366 --> 54:47.666 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5% if they're not going to do that, 54:47.666 --> 54:49.566 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55% should I try to find a lot of smaller ones 54:49.566 --> 54:52.600 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% or can you find them in a smaller size? 54:52.600 --> 54:53.733 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% Dr. Adam> Yes, ma'am. 54:53.733 --> 54:57.733 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% I find that going with three inch plugs, 54:57.733 --> 55:02.366 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65% so quart size plants, you know, we were, 55:02.366 --> 55:03.900 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75% that's what we're discussing, 55:03.900 --> 55:08.300 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% finding them from local nurseries, with the expanse, 55:08.300 --> 55:10.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% or expansion of interest in natives, 55:10.566 --> 55:12.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% a lot more people carrying them. Amanda> Thank you so much. 55:12.466 --> 55:14.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And I think some of them are larval food sources, 55:14.400 --> 55:15.566 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% which is also great. 55:15.566 --> 55:17.133 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% It's great that you are with us tonight, 55:17.133 --> 55:19.633 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% and I hope you'll be with this next time too. 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