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<Narrator>: Making 
it Grow is brought

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to you in part by 
Certified South Carolina

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is a cooperative effort

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among farmers 
retailers And the

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South Carolina 
Department of Agriculture

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to help consumers 
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foods And 
agricultural

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products that are grown, 
harvested or

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raised right here in 
the Palmetto State.

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The Boyd Foundation 
supporting outdoor

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recreational opportunities,

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the appreciation of wildlife,

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educational 
programs, And

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enhancing the 
quality of life in

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Columbia, South Carolina 
And the Midlands at large.

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McLeod farms in Mc Bee,

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South Carolina 
family owned And

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operated since 1916. 
This family farm

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offers seasonal 
produce, including

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over 40 varieties of peaches. 
Additional funding

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provided by the South Carolina

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Farm Bureau 
Federation And Farm

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Bureau insurance And 
BOONE HALL FARMS.

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Amanda: Well, good 
evening, And welcome

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to  Making it Grow  . 
I'm so glad that you

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can join us tonight. 
I'm Amanda McNulty.

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I'm a Clemson 
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Horticulture agent. 
And I get to come

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over here And Terasa Lott, 
who used to be an agent.

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But now as 
a specialist in

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charge of the 
coordinating the

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Master Gardener Program. 
Did I get it right?

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Terasa: I think 
officially I'm an

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Extension associate. 
Not a specialist Yes,

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in our Master 
Gardeners are such a

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huge resource to the 
citizens of South Carolina

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helping our 
Master Gardener

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coordinators like 
Paul on the panel.

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And sometimes you 
may see them working

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in an extension 
office helping to

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answer kind of 
questions that come

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in from clients or 
maybe helping to

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process soil samples or 
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Because 
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results come back, 
people kind of look

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at it And like, 
now what do I do?

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Amanda: Yeah, 
Terasa, I was down

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at Brookgreen A 
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right at the front, 
they had a whole

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group of Master 
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welcoming people, 
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could help them find 
where to go And all that.

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They just said 
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there as volunteers.

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Terasa: Wonderful. I 
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is beneficial for 
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that participate 
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doing the 
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then whoever the 
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Amanda: You know, 
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say, Oh, if it's 
worth, you know, you know,

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being paid 
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for worth doing, 
somebody should pay,

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that's just 
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whole importance of 
being a volunteer,

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And the spiritual 
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you can get 
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Terasa: I think so 
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passion for 
volunteering is in

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Animal Rescue. And I 
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huge benefits, 
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And I hope that the 
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foster receive some 
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But I do it 
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feeling I get in my heart.

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Amanda: Okay, 
Paul Thompson is the

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hort agent up in 
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And I just need to come 
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your office because 
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lot that you have a 
lot going on at your

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actual office for 
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Paul>>: Well, it 
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right? Yeah, we've 
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out front And it's 
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Deodar cedar. And 
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the office, 
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we grow vegetables in And

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there's a pollinator 
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there last year And 
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you know, a lot 
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of a I don't do any 
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the garden. For one 
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it's a it's a it's 
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camera, I mean, 
educational program.

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beneficial's around 
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so get to take 
shots of the good

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guys And the bad guys.

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Amanda: Alrighty. 
Well, um, thanks for

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being with us today. 
I appreciate it.

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Oliver Freeman, you 
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18 90 program at SC state. 
I'm so happy

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to have with you. 
have you with us And

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tell me which counties 
you are responsible for?

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Dr. Freeman: I'm 
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Berkeley, Charleston,

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Dorchester And 
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Amanda: And, you 
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which in the day 
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you know, sparsely populated.

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I think it's about the 
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in the state now 
something crazy like that.

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Dr. Freeman: Yes, ma'am.

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Amanda: So you're 
helping people who

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have you're an 
agronomist, but you

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probably just help 
anybody with

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anything they need, 
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Dr. Freeman: Well, 
yes, ma'am. I do

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all, in some cases, 
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getting questions 
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maybe beef cattle 
production, which I

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have no background 
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burgers, but um, you 
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like that, I would, 
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reach out to someone 
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to try And, you 
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answers, because 
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Amanda: A lot of 
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trying to help 
people figure out

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which way to go And 
who, exactly.

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To talk to us. Thanks 
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from Cooper's nursery, And you 
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kind of started way 
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<Casey>: Way back in 
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grafting And 
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azaleas And for 
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the weekend And then 
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realize he had too many 
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Amanda: And I think 
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does she still 
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<Casey>: She does. 
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And she's out 
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in the spring 
talking to everybody

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that's known her 
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Amanda: So you got a 
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boy running around 
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then the grandma's 
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everybody in between. 
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most energy. The 90 year 
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Amanda: Well, thanks 
for coming today.

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Appreciate it. So we 
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for you, Sarah Green 
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executive director 
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Wildlife Federation. 
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very important work. 
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dear friend 
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makes these charming, 
charming, charming

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flowers, And you'll 
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does that. I make 
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so charming. That's 
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Terasa, how about 
some gardens of the week.

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Terasa: I am delighted 
to share them today.

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This is your time 
to sparkle

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And shine show us 
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doing in your yard. 
Your Garden may be

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capturing a 
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South Carolina. 
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Bettye Insley, who 
shared her Gerber

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daisies whose flower color 
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The sweet smelling 
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a Satsuma mandarin 
orange tree came in

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It's too bad, we can't 
transmit that fragrance.

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Through the 
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a close up of 
lettuce in a

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vegetable garden was 
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And I hope 
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School students are 
watching because

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Will Green shared 
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native milkweeds 
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seedlings were 
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And finally, 
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who shared nasturtiums.

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seen in quite a while, 
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because the leaves, 
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the flowers, it's 
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was fun to see that. 
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of you to share your 
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our plea for gardens 
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broadcast is just a

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small sampling And 
we encourage you to

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visit our Face Book 
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Amanda: Terasa, back 
in the day, people

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would sometimes get 
really thin sliced

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bread And cut this 
crust off And make

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And put some 
mayonnaise on them

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(unintelligible)  leaves.

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<Sounds lovely.> 
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we'll have to do it 
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spare time. Yeah, in 
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Okay, Casey. So what 
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pick out for you to 
bring down here And

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share with us on  
Making it Grow  ?

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<Casey>: So we have a tree 
form lantana topiaried

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you know, 
something you can

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So you got room 
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underneath with 
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in containers. Yeah. 
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Blooms spring 
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summer all the way 
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Amanda: Which fall 
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<Casey>: In South Carolina 
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And the pollinators 
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So you'll see 
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butterflies 
everything they all

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love larn... lantana.

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Amanda: You have one 
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think you said And 
how big is the trunk now?

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<Casey>: The trunk 
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two And a half inch 
caliper it just

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keeps getting bigger 
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Amanda: Now you've got it. 
Staked with garden.

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You know 
what you need what

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right now but so 
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plants that have 
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poor plants will I 
get well, I think

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people leave them on 
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<Casey>: Most people 
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long we tell people, 
you know, take them

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some things they're 
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they're planted, you know,

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you can kind 
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And you can tell if it's 
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So something 
like this,

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I probably leave it on 
about six months And go

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ahead And cut it off. 
So you don't

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want to be leaving 
those stakes on for,

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you know, years And 
years because he can start to,

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restrict the 
growth, yeah.

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Amanda: Well, that's 
mighty pretty.

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I'm really glad you 
brought that for us.

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Thanks alot. All 
right, Miss Terasa,

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can we try to help 
somebody out?

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Terasa: We're going 
to try to help

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Phyllis in 
Branchville,

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who sent us a plea. 
I can only imagine

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hearing her say this, 
she said I sure

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hope you have 
time to address the

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problems of the 
dreaded tent caterpillar?

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Is 
there a way to

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control them? If I 
let nature take its

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course, then will I 
be overwhelmed with moths?

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Please help 
in capitals.

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Amanda: Goodness, 
gracious will. You know,

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I just think 
they're fascinating.

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I enjoy seeing them. 
And they're mostly in

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the Prunus serotina, And they

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don't do a thing to harm it. 
That's where I usually stand.

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Paul what what's 
your take on it?

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Paul>>: Well, 
there's two species take?

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of tech caterpillar 
And one of them is

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called the forest 
tent Caterpillar,

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which will feed on a 
lot of different

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hardwood trees. 
And actually have a

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sample here. 
The parking lot right

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outside of the 
studio here has a

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bunch of willow oak 
trees, And each

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trunk has these forest 
tent caterpillars all over.

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Amanda: And what's 
the other one?

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Paul>>: The other 
one is the Eastern

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tent Caterpillar 
that's when it gets

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on the wild cherry tree. 
But both of them

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are native species 
of caterpillar.

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And this year,

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apparently, the 
forest tent

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Caterpillar has had 
a big explosive hatching.

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And the 
two caterpillars

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look very similar to 
each other.

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But it's usually just what 
host you're finding

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it on to help you 
identify it.

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They really don't live 
all that long.

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In the spring, they 
come out when the

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leaves are first 
emerging, they

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usually do at least 
a partial

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defoliation of some branches. 
And then they're

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usually done 
within about three

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or four weeks, where 
they leave the tree,

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find a place to 
pupate And turn into a moth.

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But you know, 
the moths really

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aren't going 
to cause you a

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problem And...

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Amanda: They're not 
gonna come in the

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house And eat your cloths.

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Paul>>: No a different 
species does that.

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So I would 
just let

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nature run its 
course the trees

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seem to recover. 
It'd be one thing if

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they showed up every 
year before we get

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to trees in the 
spring, but they don't.

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So I wouldn't 
worry about them too

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much or just a 
little bit of a

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nuisance right now.

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Amanda: I was down 
visiting a friend

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And Jimmy Grayson, 
who's a Hunter had

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come by And was 
given us a ride in

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his car And he said 
I hope Caterpillar

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didn't get on you. 
And he said he'd

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been in the woods. 
And he said they

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would just dropping 
on him everywhere in

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all kinds of frass 
was coming on when everything.

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And I said that from 
what I remembered.

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There 
were certain years

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in the woods where they 
were kind of explosive,

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but just kind of 
not there's been...

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Paul>>: Well a lot 
of diseases crop up

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And plus there's a 
lot of other things

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that like to eat 
them so they kind of

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have a population 
explosion when these

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worms have a 
population explosion

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And then pretty 
quickly crashes down

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to normal levels 
that are usually

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pretty much 
unnoticeable.

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Amanda: Terasa think 
Is it the yellow

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billed cuckoo? It 
sits there And they

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strip  the annoying 
hairs off?

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Terasa: That's right. 
Yeah, we were

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talking about that 
one day And it was

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pretty crazy. 
I think it said the

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hairs actually build 
up in in the stomach

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of the cuckoo And 
then eventually, it

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gets rid of them.

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Paul>>: A hairball. 
A cat hairball.

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Amanda: it's just 
fun how nature all

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kinds of gets inter 
twined isn't it?

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Terasa: It's amazing 
And Paul And I were

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talking about the 
forest tent

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caterpillars And I 
had remembered

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seeing some 
information from the

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Forestry Commission 
that says that some

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of the trees that 
are severely

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defoliated that next 
year they'll produce

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a compound to deter 
things from eating

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the leaves anti 
anti herbivore compound

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I mean it's fascinating

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And you know, we as humans,

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I think we get so 
worked up about

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seeing you know, 
holes in our leaves

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or things like I mean, 
but all in

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all, there's an 
intricate

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relationship between 
plants And insects.

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Well, plants And animals.

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Amanda: They unlike 
the ones that come

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in the fall on our 
pecan trees that are

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out on the end of 
the year, these are

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kind of the the 
crotch of the tree,

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what was there? When 
do they go out And

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eat when did they 
come back And

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blah,blah, blah 
heard about.

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Paul>>: They use 
that as a protected

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area And but they 
still go out And

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feed during the day. 
But it's just a

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place that 
congregate they'll

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Gonna be free from 
predators when

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they're least in 
there, they can't

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eat while they're in 
there, so they still

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have to leave that nest. 
And really it's,

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the egg masses 
are laid on small

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diameter twigs in 
the fall of the year.

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In fact, 
there's some egg

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masses on this 
sample here.

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And it's almost 
like a shellac like

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substance it just in 
circles, the stem.

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<Protection?> And I 
don't know about oak

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trees And things 
because of all the

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twigs And stuff they have. 
But on cherry

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trees in the 
wintertime you can

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easily see the egg 
masses, alright, And

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the small twigs 
usually within a

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foot or so within a foot 
or so of end of a branch.

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And if you had a 
pole pruner or

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something like that you can 
prune out egg masses

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in the wintertime And not 
have the caterpillar.

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Amanda: Or just not 
worry about it

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because it's 
probably not gonna

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do any long term. 
Well, that was

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really fun. Thank 
you so much for

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bringing this 
noticing those guys

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in our parking lot. 
Appreciate it. Okay, Terasa.

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Terasa: Our next 
question is from the

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low country Daniel 
from Charleston said:

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Amanda: Oh, gosh. 
Oliver, we just lately.

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thought this was 
going to transform

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everything And all 
the farmers could be

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profitable, which 
would be wonderful,

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but I don't think it's 
working out that way.

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What's What's 
your take on it?

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Dr. Freeman: For me, 
right now, I think

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it's still a bit 
profitable but right

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now I just maybe 
they've hit a

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road block as far as 
like hemp processing.

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The processing aspect,

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I believe is kind of...

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Amanda: It could go 
into several

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different directions. 
<Exactly.>

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Think of fiber but 
the other things

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that it might have 
been used for.

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Dr. Freeman: Well, 
yeah, like our CBD oils.

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Okay. Yes, ma'am. 
But yeah, I mean,

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some people in fact, 
some farmers

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are actually looking 
into processing

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their own hemp now. 
They actually I'm

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not 100% Sure. 
But I know one farmer

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was actually explored 
that And is now

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creating Well, yeah. 
Creating clothing.

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Yeah, making 
clothing as well as oils.

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Amanda: It's 
supposed to be

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comfortable to wear, 
I believe.

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Dr. Freeman: Oh yes.

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Amanda: Have you 
ever had a shirt

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made out of it anything?

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Dr. Freeman: Not 
yet. I plan on

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getting one though, 
to try it out.

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Amanda: You should have 
it done it before you came.

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I think it's 
breathable And

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suppose to be pretty 
nice in the hot time

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of South Carolina.

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Dr. Freeman: Oh, 
yes, ma'am. Pretty,

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very lightweight as 
well. All. In fact,

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I've seen shoes made 
of hemp there.

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Yes, ma'am. So the 
opportunities is

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still there, I think 
many of the growers

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And now just exploring 
what they can to,

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you know, see where 
they can find a niche.

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Amanda: When I went 
to the dedication of

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the new South Carolina 
State Farm,

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I think I met a woman 
there who was y'all's.

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Like specialist 
or PhD person And...

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Dr. Freeman: She's, 
she's been doing a

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lot of research. Her name 
is Dr. Florence Anoruo

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Yes Ma'am 
And she's doing

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like a lot of 
research with

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different farmers 
around the state,

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as well as on the 
research And

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demonstration farm. 
That SCSU 18 90 has.

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Amanda: Okay. When 
I'm telling you that

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I have I remember 
having a nice

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conversation with 
him. I think her

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daughter had gotten 
like a full

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scholarship to 
Harvard Medical School.

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Tell her I said hi.

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Dr. Freeman: I'll 
definitely do it.

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Amanda: Okay, see what 
else we got to talk about.

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<Casey>: Alrighty 
here's a pretty plant here.

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Called a  
Chardonnay Pearls Deutzia.

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Amanda: What a beautiful 
little delicate flower.

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<Casey>: Blooms 
white in the spring

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times And have a 
nice bright foliage.

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chartreuse yellow. 
Doesn't get very

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large, like a three 
to three And a half footer.

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Okay, same 
with width, you know,

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this area you 
can't have something

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really big And just 
see it's kind of a

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plant a lot of 
people forget about

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it's kind of old 
timey old timey

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plant but they're 
starting to get

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popular again. 
So just something else,

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you know. Diversify 
your yard.

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Amanda: Now plant 
like this. You're

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not trying to keep it 
in any kind of shape.

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I mean, just 
let it be natural.

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<Casey>: Yeah, 
that's the one good

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thing about these is 
just let them go And

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they're gonna grow 
in a nice shape.

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Everybody gets so 
obsessed with

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rounding And squareing 
And some plants just

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look best if you 
leave them as they are.

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And this is one 
of them.

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Amanda: I haven't 
seen too many square

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00:20:01,533 --> 00:20:05,966
plants in nature 
have you? Well, it's

494
00:20:05,966 --> 00:20:08,566
just like, full sun.

495
00:20:08,766 --> 00:20:10,900
<Casey>: Yeah. Full 
sun or part shade.

496
00:20:10,900 --> 00:20:13,400
Good drainage. <Okay.>

497
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,000
really easy non 
picky plant, not many

498
00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,200
Amanda: Lot to be said for 
that. Well, thank

499
00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:23,066
you so very much, Okay.

500
00:20:23,066 --> 00:20:24,933
The South Carolina 
Wildlife Federation.

501
00:20:24,933 --> 00:20:27,100
Really, I think it's 
interesting because

502
00:20:27,100 --> 00:20:30,333
they do things that 
address adults that

503
00:20:30,333 --> 00:20:32,933
address people who 
are birders that

504
00:20:32,933 --> 00:20:36,033
address people who 
are bat people. And

505
00:20:36,033 --> 00:20:37,600
then they do a lot 
of stuff for

506
00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:38,966
children too. And we 
enjoy talking to

507
00:20:38,966 --> 00:20:40,900
Sarah Green And 
finding out just how

508
00:20:40,900 --> 00:20:42,800
diversified they 
are, And their

509
00:20:42,800 --> 00:20:43,866
attempts to protect 
the natural

510
00:20:43,866 --> 00:20:46,833
environment And 
promote the things

511
00:20:46,833 --> 00:20:47,866
that live in the 
natural environment.

512
00:20:52,533 --> 00:20:54,133
I'm speaking with 
Sarah Green, And

513
00:20:54,133 --> 00:20:56,266
Sarah is the 
executive director

514
00:20:56,266 --> 00:20:58,000
of the South Carolina 
Wildlife Federation.

515
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,166
And your 
organization has an

516
00:21:01,166 --> 00:21:02,900
interesting history. 
I think people in

517
00:21:02,900 --> 00:21:04,100
South Carolina 
interesting in history.

518
00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:06,466
So tell me 
how y'all started

519
00:21:06,466 --> 00:21:08,866
And what to fine gentlemen, 
were in charge.

520
00:21:09,166 --> 00:21:12,933
Sarah: Yes, we were 
founded in 1931.

521
00:21:12,933 --> 00:21:15,366
By hunters And fishermen, 
Harry Hampton

522
00:21:15,366 --> 00:21:18,200
And Zan Heyward 
founded our

523
00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:22,133
organization to 
really have a lot of

524
00:21:22,133 --> 00:21:25,466
the decisions about policy 
made based on science.

525
00:21:25,466 --> 00:21:28,433
And so 
that's been super

526
00:21:28,433 --> 00:21:29,933
important for 
conservation over

527
00:21:29,933 --> 00:21:33,566
the last 92 years 
And into the future.

528
00:21:33,566 --> 00:21:35,966
Amanda: Yes, it is. 
And, of course, when

529
00:21:35,966 --> 00:21:39,833
they were active, we 
didn't have the huge

530
00:21:39,833 --> 00:21:42,133
push of people 
coming in And

531
00:21:42,133 --> 00:21:44,466
the industry coming 
in which has had

532
00:21:44,466 --> 00:21:45,900
many positive 
effects for the

533
00:21:45,900 --> 00:21:47,433
citizens of South 
Carolina as far as

534
00:21:47,433 --> 00:21:49,600
jobs And all. And I 
believe that Harry

535
00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,900
Hampton was 
instrumental in

536
00:21:51,900 --> 00:21:55,166
saving the what is 
now the Congaree.

537
00:21:56,266 --> 00:21:58,500
National Park, which is, 
which is very exciting.

538
00:21:59,100 --> 00:22:02,033
Sarah: Right? right. 
Yes. Even back in

539
00:22:02,033 --> 00:22:05,933
the 30s, they could 
tell the impact that

540
00:22:05,933 --> 00:22:08,466
humans were having 
on the populations

541
00:22:08,466 --> 00:22:12,466
of wild deer, wild 
deer And turkey.

542
00:22:12,466 --> 00:22:17,200
And so they were seeing 
a need to conserve

543
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,033
habitat for wildlife 
even back then.

544
00:22:20,033 --> 00:22:21,733
And of course, there's 
been so much more

545
00:22:21,733 --> 00:22:24,333
development since then, 
that has just

546
00:22:24,333 --> 00:22:25,966
impacted wildlife 
even more.

547
00:22:25,966 --> 00:22:28,400
Amanda: So your goal 
is too?

548
00:22:29,066 --> 00:22:32,266
Sarah: We conserve 
And restore wildlife

549
00:22:32,266 --> 00:22:34,133
habitat across South Carolina.

550
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:37,233
Amanda: Okay. And 
you have several

551
00:22:37,233 --> 00:22:41,933
fascinating programs 
that you do.

552
00:22:41,933 --> 00:22:45,100
And you've hit lots of 
different groups of

553
00:22:45,533 --> 00:22:47,500
varying importance. 
I mean, every single

554
00:22:47,500 --> 00:22:49,100
person is important 
because we all make

555
00:22:49,100 --> 00:22:51,833
decisions. So you, 
you do work with schools.

556
00:22:52,966 --> 00:22:55,666
Sarah: We do we do. 
We have a program

557
00:22:55,666 --> 00:22:58,266
called gardening for wildlife. 
And so we encourage

558
00:22:58,266 --> 00:23:01,266
people to create 
habitat right

559
00:23:01,266 --> 00:23:02,633
in their own 
backyards, or in

560
00:23:02,633 --> 00:23:04,300
school yards And 
other places

561
00:23:04,300 --> 00:23:05,600
throughout the 
community. So we

562
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:09,000
work with schools a lot. 
They can create

563
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,033
a living laboratory 
or an outdoor

564
00:23:11,033 --> 00:23:13,166
classroom right at 
their school, And

565
00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:15,366
really experience 
the wildlife up

566
00:23:15,366 --> 00:23:17,833
close And really 
have a big impact

567
00:23:17,833 --> 00:23:19,366
for wildlife 
habitat.

568
00:23:19,366 --> 00:23:21,533
Amanda: And, of 
course, our

569
00:23:21,533 --> 00:23:23,866
pollinators And 
native plants are

570
00:23:23,866 --> 00:23:26,600
very important. And 
you've reinforced

571
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:28,933
that by giving away 
seeds, I believe.

572
00:23:29,133 --> 00:23:32,266
Sarah: Right, right, 
for pollinators are

573
00:23:32,266 --> 00:23:34,633
really having a hard 
time And so need

574
00:23:34,633 --> 00:23:37,466
nectar sources. And also, 
butterflies

575
00:23:37,466 --> 00:23:40,133
need host plants. 
And so we give away

576
00:23:40,366 --> 00:23:42,200
native milkweed 
seeds, which is the

577
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,300
host plant for the 
monarch butterfly.

578
00:23:44,300 --> 00:23:47,866
And so we have a 
great demand for for

579
00:23:47,866 --> 00:23:51,533
that type of habitat. 
And people all

580
00:23:51,533 --> 00:23:54,033
over the state 
now can plant

581
00:23:54,033 --> 00:23:55,900
milkweed in their 
own backyard. And it

582
00:23:55,900 --> 00:23:58,166
makes a big 
difference for

583
00:23:58,166 --> 00:24:00,000
monarch butterflies 
that migrate through

584
00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:00,833
South Carolina.

585
00:24:01,466 --> 00:24:05,633
Amanda: And then we 
know that we've had

586
00:24:05,633 --> 00:24:08,800
a huge influx of 
industry, we have

587
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:10,666
good policies for 
industry, And we

588
00:24:10,666 --> 00:24:13,166
have a good workforce. 
And but sadly,

589
00:24:13,166 --> 00:24:15,333
a lot of times, 
I'll ride by

590
00:24:15,333 --> 00:24:17,033
place that had trees 
on it, And all of a

591
00:24:17,033 --> 00:24:18,700
sudden it's been 
clear cut.

592
00:24:18,700 --> 00:24:20,833
And there's wonderful an 
industry coming in

593
00:24:20,833 --> 00:24:22,366
with all sorts of 
good jobs And things.

594
00:24:22,366 --> 00:24:24,866
But it's 
just a lot of grass

595
00:24:24,866 --> 00:24:27,266
And a few trees. 
And that's such a huge

596
00:24:27,266 --> 00:24:30,033
amount of space that 
could be perhaps

597
00:24:30,033 --> 00:24:33,033
used differently And 
be more friendly

598
00:24:33,033 --> 00:24:35,200
towards habitat. And 
I think y'all are

599
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:36,933
really making an 
effort to work with

600
00:24:36,933 --> 00:24:38,433
some of these 
agencies.

601
00:24:38,433 --> 00:24:40,233
Sarah: We are we 
have a program

602
00:24:40,233 --> 00:24:43,133
called wildlife And 
industry together we

603
00:24:43,133 --> 00:24:45,766
call it the WAIT 
program. And so we

604
00:24:45,766 --> 00:24:48,766
work with industries 
all across the state

605
00:24:48,766 --> 00:24:51,166
to manage their land 
for wildlife habitat,

606
00:24:51,166 --> 00:24:53,533
And sometimes that just

607
00:24:53,533 --> 00:24:55,933
means stopping 
mowing some of the

608
00:24:55,933 --> 00:24:58,733
areas like you were 
talking about,

609
00:24:58,733 --> 00:25:01,200
And that saves the 
company money,

610
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,766
And it's also much 
better for Wildlife,

611
00:25:03,766 --> 00:25:05,900
a lot of the 
pollinators need

612
00:25:05,900 --> 00:25:08,666
that kind of meadow 
grassland habitat.

613
00:25:08,666 --> 00:25:11,166
And a lot of our 
birds nest on the

614
00:25:11,166 --> 00:25:13,733
ground And deer love 
those kinds of habitats.

615
00:25:13,733 --> 00:25:16,566
So lots of 
different types of

616
00:25:16,566 --> 00:25:19,366
wildlife that can 
really have a better

617
00:25:19,366 --> 00:25:22,200
area to live. If 
some industries can

618
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,766
can manage their 
property well,

619
00:25:24,766 --> 00:25:27,400
And so we work with a 
lot of industries,

620
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,166
BMW And Michelin And 
Honda just really

621
00:25:30,166 --> 00:25:32,166
industries all 
across

622
00:25:32,166 --> 00:25:34,300
South Carolina, that can 
make a big

623
00:25:34,300 --> 00:25:37,000
difference on larger 
pieces of land like that.

624
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:38,233
Amanda: And 
sometimes you say

625
00:25:38,233 --> 00:25:40,500
they keep a certain 
area more manicured

626
00:25:40,500 --> 00:25:42,300
just for the 
presence of people

627
00:25:42,300 --> 00:25:44,066
driving by, but 
that, but that

628
00:25:44,066 --> 00:25:46,033
otherwise, they 
really are kind of

629
00:25:46,033 --> 00:25:48,133
reaching out And 
trying to let their

630
00:25:48,133 --> 00:25:50,433
employ... if you let 
your employees know

631
00:25:50,433 --> 00:25:52,600
what you're doing, 
they can take that

632
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:55,066
message out to the 
community, I would think.

633
00:25:55,066 --> 00:25:56,533
Sarah: Right, 
absolutely.

634
00:25:56,533 --> 00:25:59,166
So employee education 
is a big part of our

635
00:25:59,166 --> 00:26:01,900
WAIT  program. And 
so employees get to

636
00:26:01,900 --> 00:26:04,033
learn about plants 
that attract

637
00:26:04,033 --> 00:26:06,533
wildlife And the 
needs of wildlife in

638
00:26:06,533 --> 00:26:08,933
their community. 
And also community

639
00:26:08,933 --> 00:26:11,200
partnerships is a 
big part of our

640
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,866
program too. So we 
have industries that

641
00:26:13,866 --> 00:26:16,166
are working with 
schools And scout

642
00:26:16,166 --> 00:26:18,766
groups And garden clubs. 
And so really

643
00:26:18,766 --> 00:26:21,566
being a good partner 
in the community,

644
00:26:21,566 --> 00:26:24,066
in addition to their 
impact for wildlife.

645
00:26:24,300 --> 00:26:28,200
Amanda: And then on 
a just a charming

646
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,033
local level. I love 
to fish And um, but

647
00:26:32,033 --> 00:26:34,000
when you go to fish, 
often the public boat

648
00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:36,000
places And places 
you go are just

649
00:26:36,266 --> 00:26:37,833
horrendously littered,

650
00:26:37,833 --> 00:26:39,400
horrendously 
littered And y'all

651
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,266
have a program 
called  Plishing  .

652
00:26:41,266 --> 00:26:43,366
Yes. So tell me 
about  Plishing  .

653
00:26:43,366 --> 00:26:45,600
Sarah: Yes, there's 
a Swedish word

654
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:47,700
called plocka upp, 
that means to pick

655
00:26:47,700 --> 00:26:50,700
up And so we 
combined that with

656
00:26:50,700 --> 00:26:52,900
picking up litter 
And fishing so we

657
00:26:52,900 --> 00:26:55,666
call it  Plishing  And 
encourage people to

658
00:26:56,233 --> 00:26:57,766
when they're out 
fishing to pick up

659
00:26:57,766 --> 00:26:59,866
litter And we have a 
summer  Plishing

660
00:26:59,866 --> 00:27:03,533
challenge each year 
to have incentives

661
00:27:03,533 --> 00:27:05,600
for picking up 
litter And also

662
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:07,800
catching fish. It's 
just a really great

663
00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,933
way to keep keep our 
waterways clean And

664
00:27:10,933 --> 00:27:14,600
have a better fish 
habitat for the future.

665
00:27:15,366 --> 00:27:17,733
Amanda: And then 
some of the other

666
00:27:17,733 --> 00:27:21,300
things that you're 
doing involve taking

667
00:27:21,300 --> 00:27:25,100
getting women who 
often fathers took

668
00:27:25,100 --> 00:27:28,266
their sons out. 
And um, but But women

669
00:27:28,266 --> 00:27:31,066
are half of who we 
are right? And so we

670
00:27:31,066 --> 00:27:32,900
certainly want them 
on the side of

671
00:27:32,900 --> 00:27:34,600
wildlife And 
conservation. And I

672
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:35,766
think you have some 
programs that are

673
00:27:35,766 --> 00:27:37,700
dedicated to getting 
them all revved up

674
00:27:37,700 --> 00:27:38,566
And excited.

675
00:27:38,566 --> 00:27:40,733
Sarah: We have our 
Palmetto outdoors

676
00:27:40,733 --> 00:27:44,833
women retreat each 
fall. And so we have

677
00:27:44,833 --> 00:27:47,000
about 30 different 
classes that women

678
00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,566
can take from 
archery And fishing

679
00:27:50,566 --> 00:27:53,100
to birding. We've 
had we've done kudzu

680
00:27:53,100 --> 00:27:55,000
basket weaving And 
just all different

681
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,266
kinds of outdoor skills. 
And it's a really

682
00:27:58,266 --> 00:28:01,100
fun weekend. 
And we've we've had

683
00:28:01,100 --> 00:28:02,800
such demand for it 
that we've started

684
00:28:02,800 --> 00:28:05,866
adding additional 
classes And events

685
00:28:05,866 --> 00:28:07,466
throughout the year. 
We just had a fly

686
00:28:07,466 --> 00:28:10,066
fishing event a 
couple of weeks ago,

687
00:28:10,066 --> 00:28:11,866
And so lots of 
different things for

688
00:28:11,866 --> 00:28:12,966
women to try.

689
00:28:12,966 --> 00:28:14,100
Amanda: And when you 
do that you're

690
00:28:14,100 --> 00:28:18,400
building again, a 
lobbying force for

691
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:19,666
across the state.

692
00:28:19,666 --> 00:28:21,866
Sarah: We really try 
to educate people

693
00:28:21,866 --> 00:28:24,600
about our beautiful 
state, And all of

694
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,100
the wildlife And 
beautiful plants

695
00:28:27,100 --> 00:28:29,900
that we have here so 
that they will be

696
00:28:29,900 --> 00:28:33,266
inspired to conserve 
it And take action

697
00:28:33,266 --> 00:28:36,000
when needed And 
speak up about

698
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,633
different legislation 
or different policies.

699
00:28:39,266 --> 00:28:42,966
Amanda: As we change 
our habitat. We find

700
00:28:42,966 --> 00:28:44,900
some some birds are 
very specific about

701
00:28:44,900 --> 00:28:46,733
what they need to nest. 
And I was reading

702
00:28:46,733 --> 00:28:50,566
that some of 
the birds are

703
00:28:50,566 --> 00:28:53,133
kestrels, screech owls, 
with prothonotary warblers

704
00:28:53,133 --> 00:28:55,200
And others 
are having a hard

705
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,300
time finding places 
to nest. And you all

706
00:28:57,300 --> 00:29:00,300
are trying to go in 
And help nature so

707
00:29:00,300 --> 00:29:02,866
that these birds can 
be successful at reproducing.

708
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,266
Sarah: Yes, we have 
a variety of

709
00:29:05,266 --> 00:29:07,166
different nesting 
boxes of different

710
00:29:07,166 --> 00:29:10,000
sizes And shapes 
because they each

711
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:11,666
different species 
has certain things

712
00:29:11,666 --> 00:29:13,133
that they're looking 
for in nesting box

713
00:29:13,133 --> 00:29:15,766
And so forth on 
prothonotary warblers

714
00:29:15,766 --> 00:29:18,366
is one species that 
is in decline And a

715
00:29:18,366 --> 00:29:21,433
bright yellow 
beautiful bird.

716
00:29:21,433 --> 00:29:23,833
And they migrate from 
South America all the

717
00:29:23,833 --> 00:29:26,466
way up to South Carolina 
And breed here.

718
00:29:26,466 --> 00:29:30,066
And so And 
they are a cavity

719
00:29:30,066 --> 00:29:33,433
nesting warblers, so 
they are looking for

720
00:29:33,433 --> 00:29:35,500
holes in trees And 
things like that.

721
00:29:35,500 --> 00:29:38,000
But what if those 
are not available

722
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,700
then they have our 
nesting boxes that

723
00:29:40,700 --> 00:29:44,533
they can use And so 
And they those we've

724
00:29:44,533 --> 00:29:46,033
been putting those 
up all across the

725
00:29:46,033 --> 00:29:47,733
state for the for 
that species in

726
00:29:47,733 --> 00:29:50,900
particular but also 
kestrels, screech

727
00:29:50,900 --> 00:29:53,666
owls, wood ducks, 
blue birds, all

728
00:29:53,666 --> 00:29:57,400
different sizes And 
colors And types of

729
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,066
birds that are 
cavity nesters.

730
00:30:00,066 --> 00:30:01,866
Amanda: And everyone 
loves Hawks. But

731
00:30:01,866 --> 00:30:03,800
many people don't 
realize the little

732
00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,533
Kestrel. You see, 
sitting on the power

733
00:30:05,533 --> 00:30:07,733
line is an is a 
hawk. He's our

734
00:30:07,733 --> 00:30:09,666
smallest one. And 
quite beautiful.

735
00:30:09,666 --> 00:30:10,600
I think people should look.

736
00:30:10,600 --> 00:30:12,666
Sarah: They are 
beautiful. Yes, yes.

737
00:30:13,500 --> 00:30:14,766
Amanda: Last year at 
a Master Gardener

738
00:30:14,766 --> 00:30:17,566
conference, I heard 
one of your fellow

739
00:30:17,566 --> 00:30:19,700
workers, Jay Keck, 
is that correct?

740
00:30:19,933 --> 00:30:23,333
Talk about some 
certain buildings

741
00:30:23,333 --> 00:30:24,833
where birds just 
flying to the

742
00:30:24,833 --> 00:30:28,066
Windows by the hundreds. 
And we I mean,

743
00:30:28,066 --> 00:30:29,100
they're 
already having so

744
00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:31,333
many pressures on 
them that have

745
00:30:31,333 --> 00:30:32,500
affected their 
decline, we

746
00:30:32,500 --> 00:30:34,100
certainly don't want 
them to kill

747
00:30:34,100 --> 00:30:36,333
themselves that way. 
Have you all found a

748
00:30:36,333 --> 00:30:39,000
way to dissuade 
birds from doing that?

749
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,800
Sarah: We we've been 
working with several

750
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,466
businesses around 
the state that have

751
00:30:44,466 --> 00:30:48,133
had a window strikes 
from birds.

752
00:30:48,133 --> 00:30:49,700
And there's a product 
called collide escape,

753
00:30:49,700 --> 00:30:53,266
that is a film 
that can be put

754
00:30:53,266 --> 00:30:55,600
on the windows, And 
it doesn't obstruct

755
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,366
the view looking 
out, but it it

756
00:30:58,366 --> 00:31:01,366
cuts down on the 
reflection, which is

757
00:31:01,366 --> 00:31:03,833
what the birds, the 
birds see the trees

758
00:31:03,833 --> 00:31:05,333
reflected in the glass, 
And they think

759
00:31:05,333 --> 00:31:08,833
they can fly into it. 
So this film

760
00:31:08,833 --> 00:31:11,700
cuts down on 
the reflection, And

761
00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:13,200
from the outside, it 
can look like a

762
00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:15,266
beautiful piece of 
art. And from inside,

763
00:31:15,266 --> 00:31:17,000
you can't even tell 
that it's on there.

764
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,766
But it really saves. 
Note, the birds

765
00:31:19,766 --> 00:31:22,033
don't hit it at 
all because of

766
00:31:22,033 --> 00:31:23,000
the the reflection 
is gone.

767
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,533
Amanda: And I 
understand that if a

768
00:31:25,533 --> 00:31:28,666
bird at your house 
hits a window, you

769
00:31:28,666 --> 00:31:31,333
can still alive 
but stunned you can

770
00:31:31,333 --> 00:31:33,433
put it in a shoe box 
And maybe put a

771
00:31:33,433 --> 00:31:35,333
cover over it And 
bring it in for a while.

772
00:31:35,333 --> 00:31:37,333
And often 
they will recover

773
00:31:37,333 --> 00:31:38,766
And then take it out 
And release it.

774
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,233
Sarah: Right they 
often do. And

775
00:31:42,233 --> 00:31:43,966
there's also wildlife 
rehabilitators

776
00:31:43,966 --> 00:31:46,800
that can help 
with those

777
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,833
kinds of situations 
as well. So,

778
00:31:49,366 --> 00:31:51,166
Amanda: Sarah, 
although y'all do

779
00:31:51,166 --> 00:31:53,666
have a well 
organized staff And

780
00:31:53,666 --> 00:31:56,833
work crew, I think 
that you welcome the

781
00:31:56,833 --> 00:31:59,766
participation of 
individual citizens.

782
00:31:59,766 --> 00:32:02,433
And so if someone 
has a great interest,

783
00:32:02,433 --> 00:32:04,133
can they contact 
y'all And

784
00:32:04,133 --> 00:32:05,766
see if there's a 
place where they can

785
00:32:05,766 --> 00:32:08,166
be a conduit into 
the community?

786
00:32:08,466 --> 00:32:09,900
Sarah: Absolutely. 
We have lots of

787
00:32:09,900 --> 00:32:12,300
different ways that 
that individuals can

788
00:32:12,300 --> 00:32:14,066
get involved, 
whether it's

789
00:32:14,066 --> 00:32:16,300
creating habitat in 
your backyard or

790
00:32:16,833 --> 00:32:18,666
being involved in 
one of our programs,

791
00:32:18,666 --> 00:32:21,333
collecting data 
about different

792
00:32:21,333 --> 00:32:24,733
species of birds or 
wildlife. So they

793
00:32:24,733 --> 00:32:28,433
can visit our 
web site at WWW.SCWF.ORG ,

794
00:32:28,433 --> 00:32:31,300
for more information 
And we have programs

795
00:32:31,300 --> 00:32:33,633
going on across the state 
And throughout the year.

796
00:32:33,833 --> 00:32:35,033
Amanda: Well, I want 
to thank you so much for

797
00:32:35,033 --> 00:32:36,633
sharing this important 
news with us today.

798
00:32:37,233 --> 00:32:38,633
Sarah: Thank you so 
much for having me.

799
00:32:44,266 --> 00:32:45,400
Amanda: I want to 
thank Sarah Green

800
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,100
for coming down And 
telling us about the

801
00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:49,533
important work that her 
organization is doing.

802
00:32:49,533 --> 00:32:54,466
So it was hat time again, 
Terasa

803
00:32:54,466 --> 00:32:57,300
so I went out to Hank And 
Ann's Of

804
00:32:57,300 --> 00:32:59,733
course, my place to 
get that material

805
00:32:59,733 --> 00:33:03,300
And they have this 
variegated Solomon's seal

806
00:33:03,300 --> 00:33:06,166
And Casey... 
What do you know about it?

807
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,966
<Casey>: It grows 
well here.

808
00:33:09,966 --> 00:33:12,100
Comes back great every year. 
Just a nice thing

809
00:33:12,100 --> 00:33:14,233
to mix in with 
Hostas or area like

810
00:33:14,233 --> 00:33:15,333
that shade garden.

811
00:33:15,333 --> 00:33:18,033
Amanda: And this is 
one that comes from

812
00:33:18,033 --> 00:33:19,966
Asia rather than the native one. 
Is that correct?

813
00:33:19,966 --> 00:33:22,200
Because we have a Solomon seal.

814
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:23,900
this year, but 
it's real pretty.

815
00:33:25,300 --> 00:33:29,000
And then cala canthus 
switch shrub is

816
00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:32,133
the little reddish 
flower And it's just

817
00:33:32,133 --> 00:33:34,633
charming And let 
when I picked it it

818
00:33:34,633 --> 00:33:36,000
had a lot of 
fragrance it sat

819
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,966
down, sat all night 
And got rained on.

820
00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:40,833
It's not so fragrant 
today, but I've been

821
00:33:40,833 --> 00:33:43,033
to the to riverbank 
zoo And they've got

822
00:33:43,033 --> 00:33:44,900
some great big ones 
there, Paul, And

823
00:33:44,900 --> 00:33:47,966
those are maybe from 
Asia?

824
00:33:47,966 --> 00:33:50,966
Paul>>: What is it 
something wine,

825
00:33:51,933 --> 00:33:54,166
Cartlidge wine or 
something like that.

826
00:33:54,166 --> 00:33:57,466
That's that was a 
real popular

827
00:33:57,466 --> 00:33:59,300
selection, you know, 
a decade ago And

828
00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:02,966
that was a hybrid 
between the the

829
00:34:02,966 --> 00:34:06,033
Asian Calacanthis And 
in the native,

830
00:34:06,033 --> 00:34:09,933
<Okay.> But it was 
typically scentless.

831
00:34:09,933 --> 00:34:11,433
Big flower the 
flowers much showyer.

832
00:34:12,033 --> 00:34:13,800
Amanda: Okay, see, 
y'all have Did you

833
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:16,066
say y'all have one? 
That y'all carry?

834
00:34:16,066 --> 00:34:17,066
Yeah, we

835
00:34:17,066 --> 00:34:17,966
<Casey>: have a new 
we have the regular

836
00:34:17,966 --> 00:34:19,366
old timey one. And 
then we have a new

837
00:34:19,366 --> 00:34:20,800
one that Proven 
Winners came out

838
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:23,600
with it's called a 
Aphrodite. And

839
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,200
it's a bigger bloom. 
Not as big as the

840
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,300
Variety he's talking 
about, but it is

841
00:34:28,300 --> 00:34:30,733
really fragrant. <Oh, 
Okay.> It's called Aphrodite.

842
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,300
Amanda: Okay, um, 
yeah. And I like the

843
00:34:33,300 --> 00:34:35,100
way it smells. 
It's not perfumey

844
00:34:35,100 --> 00:34:37,200
particularly, but 
it's it's got a nice,

845
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,300
<Casey>: nice, nice. 
Not overpowering.

846
00:34:39,300 --> 00:34:41,766
Amanda: Yeah. Okay. 
Well, that was that

847
00:34:41,766 --> 00:34:45,200
was great. 
All right, Casey,

848
00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:46,533
I don't think you're 
going to pull out a

849
00:34:46,533 --> 00:34:48,300
calacanthus but 
pull out something

850
00:34:48,300 --> 00:34:49,833
else that will be 
fun to talk about please.

851
00:34:52,766 --> 00:34:55,366
<Casey>: This pretty 
flower right here.

852
00:34:56,266 --> 00:35:00,266
This is your pink 
Hawaiian coral. Oh,

853
00:35:00,266 --> 00:35:04,400
coral, peony. And, 
you know, here in

854
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,033
the south, we're 
kind of borderline

855
00:35:06,033 --> 00:35:08,666
on growing it. And 
everyone likes to

856
00:35:08,666 --> 00:35:10,866
brag how they can 
grow it, but their

857
00:35:10,866 --> 00:35:14,366
friend can't grow 
it. So some people

858
00:35:14,366 --> 00:35:15,733
do them in 
containers here And

859
00:35:15,733 --> 00:35:18,166
they seem to work 
well in containers.

860
00:35:18,833 --> 00:35:20,200
We have a few 
customers, it's got

861
00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,600
them in the ground, 
And they do well.

862
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:24,666
But it's kind of 
like a Daphney. You know,

863
00:35:24,666 --> 00:35:26,966
here, you might have success

864
00:35:26,966 --> 00:35:30,066
with it, you may not.

865
00:35:30,066 --> 00:35:31,166
Amanda: They get 
what I call the up

866
00:35:31,166 --> 00:35:34,100
And down disease you go 
out there two weeks ago,

867
00:35:34,100 --> 00:35:34,600
it was fine then...

868
00:35:37,566 --> 00:35:38,800
<Casey>: definitely 
worth, you know,

869
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,000
plant worth trying 
because it's hard to

870
00:35:41,000 --> 00:35:42,100
beat that bloom, there.

871
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,700
Amanda: Paul, when 
were you are do

872
00:35:46,700 --> 00:35:48,366
y'all have a little 
more success with

873
00:35:48,366 --> 00:35:49,433
them than we do?

874
00:35:49,433 --> 00:35:51,300
Paul>>: I've been 
seeing them around, they're

875
00:35:51,300 --> 00:35:53,966
not really popular. 
I think they

876
00:35:53,966 --> 00:35:56,700
really want 
some better drained

877
00:35:56,700 --> 00:35:59,500
soils than what we have. 
You know,

878
00:35:59,500 --> 00:36:02,666
but I don't see too many 
folks fooling around.

879
00:36:02,933 --> 00:36:06,133
Amanda: They love 
cold places. And so

880
00:36:06,133 --> 00:36:08,500
if you get one 
Terasa, if you read

881
00:36:08,500 --> 00:36:10,133
the directions for 
the South, it says

882
00:36:10,133 --> 00:36:12,266
plant them. So the 
eyes are just right

883
00:36:12,266 --> 00:36:14,000
at the soil surface. 
But if you're

884
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:15,333
planting them up, 
where it's really

885
00:36:15,333 --> 00:36:17,100
cold, you plant them 
a little bit deeper.

886
00:36:17,333 --> 00:36:19,600
And we had a lady on 
a while back,

887
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,466
who's got a she grows 
cut flowers. And she

888
00:36:23,466 --> 00:36:26,200
had a good, she had 
peonies, but she had

889
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,366
them own, not raised 
beds that were done

890
00:36:29,366 --> 00:36:32,133
with timber, but 
just raise beds, I

891
00:36:32,133 --> 00:36:34,333
think she said to 
get more cold to the

892
00:36:34,333 --> 00:36:35,900
roots, And she was 
having pretty good

893
00:36:35,900 --> 00:36:37,600
luck with them. 
So different things if

894
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,466
you want to try it, right. 
<That's right,>

895
00:36:39,466 --> 00:36:40,000
Terasa?

896
00:36:40,500 --> 00:36:41,800
Terasa: Well, we get 
lots of questions

897
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,966
about how to 
properly plant a

898
00:36:43,966 --> 00:36:46,300
tree And whether or 
not you should stake

899
00:36:46,300 --> 00:36:47,966
the tree when you 
put it in the ground.

900
00:36:47,966 --> 00:36:50,866
And Paul was 
gracious enough to

901
00:36:50,866 --> 00:36:54,700
bring a sample And 
perhaps it shows us

902
00:36:54,700 --> 00:36:56,266
what not to do. 
<Okay.>

903
00:36:59,900 --> 00:37:02,166
<Paul>: This is my 
Charlie Brown tree.

904
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:05,966
So... <It's more 
like Jack in the

905
00:37:05,966 --> 00:37:07,966
bean stalk.> earlier 
exaggerated case of

906
00:37:07,966 --> 00:37:09,833
this, you don't 
normally see them

907
00:37:09,833 --> 00:37:12,566
for sale in this 
kind of situation,

908
00:37:12,566 --> 00:37:14,466
but you often go to 
into a garden

909
00:37:14,466 --> 00:37:17,866
center, where 
there's a stake,

910
00:37:17,866 --> 00:37:21,600
holding the tree up. 
And you know,

911
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:25,433
basically it, it has 
to be done. If you,

912
00:37:25,433 --> 00:37:27,900
if I took this stake 
out, this tree would

913
00:37:27,900 --> 00:37:29,833
probably be leaning 
at least at a 45

914
00:37:29,833 --> 00:37:35,700
degree angle. But 
it's really not a

915
00:37:35,700 --> 00:37:40,300
way to produce a 
tree. Okay. Number one,

916
00:37:40,300 --> 00:37:43,733
you're taking a 
young tree, And you

917
00:37:43,733 --> 00:37:46,066
can see little stubs 
along the trunk

918
00:37:46,066 --> 00:37:47,433
where they pruned 
off the small

919
00:37:47,433 --> 00:37:50,433
lateral branches. 
And so you're

920
00:37:50,433 --> 00:37:52,133
creating a whole lot 
of wounds at one

921
00:37:52,133 --> 00:37:53,633
time on the tree 
that it's going to

922
00:37:53,633 --> 00:37:57,066
divert resources to. 
But the the key

923
00:37:57,066 --> 00:38:00,733
thing is, for a tree 
to become strong And

924
00:38:00,733 --> 00:38:04,166
develop a strong 
truck, it needs

925
00:38:04,166 --> 00:38:06,233
basically every leaf 
on the tree when you

926
00:38:06,233 --> 00:38:09,166
buy it, Okay, it 
needs that canopy,

927
00:38:09,866 --> 00:38:11,600
it needs the 
foliage, because

928
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,666
it's best to 
manufacture the

929
00:38:13,666 --> 00:38:17,233
energy to grow, 
Okay, And the lower

930
00:38:17,233 --> 00:38:20,800
branches on a tree 
like this would

931
00:38:20,800 --> 00:38:22,600
cause the Trunk to 
grow thicker And

932
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,433
stronger, much, much 
faster.

933
00:38:25,100 --> 00:38:27,933
Amanda: So they're 
gonna send their

934
00:38:27,933 --> 00:38:30,300
carbohydrates they 
make aren't gonna go

935
00:38:30,300 --> 00:38:31,000
to the top of tree,

936
00:38:31,266 --> 00:38:32,766
Paul>>: they're 
going to send the

937
00:38:32,766 --> 00:38:34,600
sugar from these 
leaves all the way to the...

938
00:38:35,033 --> 00:38:37,300
Amanda: So that's gonna 
help this is gonna help.

939
00:38:39,033 --> 00:38:40,566
Paul>>: And so what 
you want to do is

940
00:38:40,566 --> 00:38:44,066
leave lower branches 
on young trees. Now,

941
00:38:44,066 --> 00:38:46,166
every limb on this 
tree that's

942
00:38:46,166 --> 00:38:48,066
eventually going to 
be 40 feet tall,

943
00:38:48,066 --> 00:38:50,266
currently is a 
temporary branch.

944
00:38:50,766 --> 00:38:52,533
Because eventually, 
if it's planted out

945
00:38:52,533 --> 00:38:53,933
in the front lawn, 
or whatever, it's

946
00:38:53,933 --> 00:38:57,366
gonna be limbed up. 
But let's say you

947
00:38:57,366 --> 00:38:59,666
got a tree like this 
And you wanted to,

948
00:38:59,933 --> 00:39:02,633
or maybe you, you 
know, you, you might

949
00:39:02,633 --> 00:39:04,133
have a Japanese 
maple where you

950
00:39:04,133 --> 00:39:05,733
harvest seedlings 
from or something

951
00:39:05,733 --> 00:39:07,566
like that. And if 
you ever have a

952
00:39:07,566 --> 00:39:09,400
plant where you 
don't have any lower

953
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:12,133
branches, you can 
actually induce them

954
00:39:12,133 --> 00:39:16,000
to produce them. So 
yeah, so what do you

955
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:20,133
do as I can, you 
know, look at this

956
00:39:20,133 --> 00:39:23,000
stem here And I can 
see old leaf nodes.

957
00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:25,833
And there will be a 
you know, every

958
00:39:25,833 --> 00:39:27,300
place there's a leaf 
there's gonna be a

959
00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:29,966
bud that can give 
rise to a lateral branch.

960
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,733
Amanda: at the 
moment has been

961
00:39:31,733 --> 00:39:33,966
right suppressed by 
things above it.

962
00:39:33,966 --> 00:39:34,466
<Right.>

963
00:39:34,900 --> 00:39:36,333
Paul>>: Now hormones 
are what control

964
00:39:36,333 --> 00:39:39,366
plant growth. 
So what you do is you

965
00:39:39,366 --> 00:39:41,700
cut off the hormone, 
the tips of the

966
00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:43,266
branches up there 
that are telling

967
00:39:43,266 --> 00:39:47,733
things not to grow 
below them by

968
00:39:47,733 --> 00:39:50,966
disrupting their 
communication.

969
00:39:50,966 --> 00:39:54,700
So you go above a bud 
with a little hen

970
00:39:54,700 --> 00:39:58,333
knife or a little 
exacto knife, And

971
00:39:58,333 --> 00:40:01,200
you just cut out the 
small little notch

972
00:40:01,200 --> 00:40:05,666
of bark And the 
green cambium tissue

973
00:40:05,666 --> 00:40:06,900
this underneath the 
bark,

974
00:40:06,900 --> 00:40:10,000
Amanda: just almost minuscule...

975
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:11,966
Paul>>: A minuscule amount, 
what I'm doing is I'm

976
00:40:11,966 --> 00:40:13,633
stopping that 
hormone from running

977
00:40:13,633 --> 00:40:15,533
down through the 
phloem, which is the

978
00:40:15,533 --> 00:40:18,000
inner bark, telling 
that bud not to

979
00:40:18,000 --> 00:40:20,466
grow. Now the roots 
are actually sending

980
00:40:20,466 --> 00:40:23,366
a signal up from the 
bottom, And they're

981
00:40:23,366 --> 00:40:26,366
gonna be telling 
this guy grow,

982
00:40:26,366 --> 00:40:28,066
they're no longer 
getting that signal

983
00:40:28,066 --> 00:40:31,600
down from the trunk. 
So you go up And

984
00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:34,133
down the stem And do 
it in multiple places.

985
00:40:34,133 --> 00:40:37,766
And I've 
done this before.

986
00:40:37,766 --> 00:40:40,500
And you can see a 
picture I have

987
00:40:43,300 --> 00:40:45,900
Japanese maple I did 
it to a couple of

988
00:40:45,900 --> 00:40:48,333
years ago. And about 
three weeks after I

989
00:40:48,333 --> 00:40:50,333
did this is when 
those buds sprouted

990
00:40:50,333 --> 00:40:52,833
started growing. So 
I could go up And

991
00:40:52,833 --> 00:40:55,633
down this Trunk And 
get several places

992
00:40:56,133 --> 00:40:58,333
And start producing 
reproducing that

993
00:40:58,333 --> 00:41:02,133
lower canopy. Now 
one thing you don't

994
00:41:02,133 --> 00:41:03,700
want to do, you 
don't want that

995
00:41:03,700 --> 00:41:05,133
those water going to 
be temporary

996
00:41:05,133 --> 00:41:06,633
branches, you don't 
want to let them get

997
00:41:06,633 --> 00:41:08,700
too large before you 
decide to completely

998
00:41:08,700 --> 00:41:11,633
remove them. So what 
you do is you slow

999
00:41:11,633 --> 00:41:13,100
down their growth. 
So when they sprout

1000
00:41:13,100 --> 00:41:15,333
And grow, And they 
get out in this

1001
00:41:15,333 --> 00:41:17,266
area, go ahead And 
reduce them by about

1002
00:41:17,266 --> 00:41:20,500
a half, leaving some 
foliage on there.

1003
00:41:20,500 --> 00:41:23,100
So they stay alive. But 
it slows down their

1004
00:41:23,100 --> 00:41:25,100
growth. So they 
don't start getting

1005
00:41:25,100 --> 00:41:26,500
too big And 
diameter. So you got

1006
00:41:26,500 --> 00:41:28,000
a big pruning wound. 
So you don't want

1007
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,700
them to get, you 
know, as large as

1008
00:41:30,700 --> 00:41:32,600
the trunk is where 
they're attached.

1009
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:35,100
So you print them off. 
But it's a process,

1010
00:41:35,100 --> 00:41:36,866
it's not something that 
you just do all at once.

1011
00:41:37,466 --> 00:41:41,333
Amanda: So when they 
the new lateral

1012
00:41:41,333 --> 00:41:44,633
branches start 
coming out, how long

1013
00:41:44,633 --> 00:41:45,766
before you going to 
have to...

1014
00:41:46,433 --> 00:41:47,766
Paul>>: You go ahead And 
let them get out a

1015
00:41:47,766 --> 00:41:49,566
foot to 18 inches 
And then after that

1016
00:41:49,566 --> 00:41:50,633
first season, 
go ahead...

1017
00:41:50,633 --> 00:41:51,933
Amanda: After the first 
season, go ahead And

1018
00:41:51,933 --> 00:41:53,533
Paul>>: let them do 
this go let them do

1019
00:41:53,533 --> 00:41:54,800
their thing the 
first year, they're

1020
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:56,733
not gonna grow that 
much. But when they

1021
00:41:56,733 --> 00:41:59,333
get out away's, 
take them back.

1022
00:41:59,333 --> 00:42:00,966
So they're, you know, 
eight inches long or

1023
00:42:00,966 --> 00:42:02,833
so And still have 
some foliage on.

1024
00:42:02,833 --> 00:42:06,033
Okay. And And that 
continuously is

1025
00:42:06,033 --> 00:42:09,166
going to help build 
that trunk caliber.

1026
00:42:09,166 --> 00:42:10,733
And then you have a 
strong tree that

1027
00:42:10,733 --> 00:42:11,700
doesn't need to be 
stacked.

1028
00:42:12,133 --> 00:42:13,533
Amanda: Thank you. 
Thank you so much.

1029
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,500
Sure. And I know you 
have learned a lot

1030
00:42:16,500 --> 00:42:18,333
from your friends at 
Bartlett tree lab.

1031
00:42:18,333 --> 00:42:20,166
There. They are 
wonderful people, I think.

1032
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,800
Paul>>: Yes, yes. In 
fact, it was Dave

1033
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,966
Powell that shared 
that little notch

1034
00:42:24,966 --> 00:42:26,166
trick with me years ago.

1035
00:42:26,733 --> 00:42:27,866
Amanda: All right, 
Terasa.

1036
00:42:29,633 --> 00:42:32,033
Terasa: We have a 
question from Gabe

1037
00:42:32,033 --> 00:42:33,633
in Ridgeville. 
Gabe says:

1038
00:42:42,366 --> 00:42:44,900
Amanda: 
Oh, goodness. Well, Oliver,

1039
00:42:44,900 --> 00:42:49,033
I think it's kind of a process, 
but I think it's doable.

1040
00:42:49,566 --> 00:42:52,700
Dr. Freeman: Oh, 
yes, ma'am. It is.

1041
00:42:52,700 --> 00:42:57,300
So they like agencies, small

1042
00:42:57,300 --> 00:42:59,133
companies like 
across the board

1043
00:42:59,133 --> 00:43:02,566
data will actually 
come out And kind of

1044
00:43:02,566 --> 00:43:05,266
walk you through the 
process of, you know,

1045
00:43:05,266 --> 00:43:06,833
becoming certified organic.

1046
00:43:07,266 --> 00:43:12,100
And you can do it 
now for crops as

1047
00:43:12,100 --> 00:43:15,800
well as, you know, 
cattle or even any

1048
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:19,866
type of livestock. 
Yes, ma'am. So it's

1049
00:43:19,866 --> 00:43:23,366
definitely doable. 
It's not dependent

1050
00:43:23,366 --> 00:43:26,800
on the crop in any way. 
But um, yeah, I mean,

1051
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:29,466
There are also cost 
share programs put

1052
00:43:29,466 --> 00:43:32,033
on through the USDA 
that can help with

1053
00:43:32,033 --> 00:43:34,433
that as well. 
Because of course,

1054
00:43:34,433 --> 00:43:36,866
that certification 
comes with a cost.

1055
00:43:36,866 --> 00:43:44,033
And you know, that, 
again, it's just,

1056
00:43:44,033 --> 00:43:45,533
you know, it's very 
possible to do.

1057
00:43:46,133 --> 00:43:48,066
Amanda: so you don't 
have to take the

1058
00:43:48,066 --> 00:43:50,033
land out of production. 
You just have

1059
00:43:50,033 --> 00:43:51,866
to start the production,

1060
00:43:51,866 --> 00:43:54,333
the correct production 
process, And do it

1061
00:43:54,333 --> 00:43:55,966
for a required 
amount of time And

1062
00:43:55,966 --> 00:43:57,733
people are coming 
And checking with

1063
00:43:57,733 --> 00:43:59,633
you until you get to 
the end. So it's not

1064
00:43:59,633 --> 00:44:00,700
like you just have 
to sit on your hands.

1065
00:44:01,333 --> 00:44:03,466
Dr. Freeman: Right? 
Yes. transition

1066
00:44:03,466 --> 00:44:05,400
process essentially. 
Yes, ma'am.

1067
00:44:05,666 --> 00:44:09,266
Amanda: Thank you so 
much, my friend Ruth Anne

1068
00:44:09,266 --> 00:44:10,766
just makes the 
most beautiful cards.

1069
00:44:10,766 --> 00:44:13,500
And it's fun 
to happen because

1070
00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:15,033
when I send them to 
people thanking them,

1071
00:44:15,033 --> 00:44:17,133
which I'm doing 
to make up for

1072
00:44:17,133 --> 00:44:18,166
the fact that I 
never finished

1073
00:44:18,166 --> 00:44:19,266
writing on my thank 
you notes.

1074
00:44:19,266 --> 00:44:20,600
When I got married. 
My sister says that's

1075
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:21,866
one of the many reasons 
I can't go to heaven.

1076
00:44:21,866 --> 00:44:24,433
But anyway they often

1077
00:44:24,433 --> 00:44:25,700
write you back And 
said, Oh, that was

1078
00:44:25,700 --> 00:44:27,300
just the most 
wonderful card And

1079
00:44:27,300 --> 00:44:29,033
it's all thanks to 
my good friend

1080
00:44:29,033 --> 00:44:32,066
Ruth Anne Bigger.

1081
00:44:32,066 --> 00:44:35,133
♪♪

1082
00:44:35,133 --> 00:44:37,166
I am with my good 
friend Ruth Anne Bigger

1083
00:44:37,166 --> 00:44:39,166
And she has 
come to show us some

1084
00:44:39,166 --> 00:44:42,366
of her incredible 
pressed flower artwork.

1085
00:44:42,366 --> 00:44:44,266
Ruth Anne 
thanks so much for

1086
00:44:44,266 --> 00:44:45,800
coming down here 
over here.

1087
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,600
And I guess I should let 
people know that we

1088
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:50,200
originally met 
because you are one

1089
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:51,733
of the most active 
master gardeners

1090
00:44:51,733 --> 00:44:53,366
that Sumter County 
has ever had.

1091
00:44:54,833 --> 00:44:57,566
Ruth: I don't know 
about that probably

1092
00:44:57,566 --> 00:44:59,666
one of the longest 
hanging around.

1093
00:44:59,666 --> 00:45:04,233
Amanda: Well Anyway, 
yeah, it is. And

1094
00:45:04,233 --> 00:45:06,200
when I found out 
about these, I just

1095
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:07,600
thought they were 
the most magical

1096
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,566
things in the world. 
And tell me how you

1097
00:45:09,566 --> 00:45:10,333
got started on it.

1098
00:45:10,333 --> 00:45:12,266
Ruth: I saw an 
article in a

1099
00:45:12,266 --> 00:45:15,166
magazine back in 1985. 
Believe it or not,

1100
00:45:15,166 --> 00:45:17,700
it mentioned 
that And you could

1101
00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:20,266
send in $1 And get 
six cards that had a

1102
00:45:20,266 --> 00:45:22,000
little oval in them 
that you could put

1103
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,900
flowers in. A lot 
magazines used to do

1104
00:45:24,900 --> 00:45:26,733
those types of promotional 
things back then.

1105
00:45:26,733 --> 00:45:29,700
And I got 
started trying to

1106
00:45:29,700 --> 00:45:31,766
press them in a back 
when he And I had

1107
00:45:32,200 --> 00:45:34,033
grew up in Norfolk, 
had a nice big,

1108
00:45:34,033 --> 00:45:36,300
thick telephone book. 
And my daddy

1109
00:45:36,300 --> 00:45:39,100
made me a flower 
press that was about

1110
00:45:39,100 --> 00:45:42,266
this big, nice 
wooden one with a

1111
00:45:42,266 --> 00:45:45,233
screw in it about 
that long on each corner.

1112
00:45:45,233 --> 00:45:46,900
And it did a great 
job of pressing them

1113
00:45:46,900 --> 00:45:49,500
which wore yourself 
out undoing those wing nuts

1114
00:45:49,500 --> 00:45:52,366
around the screws. 
And I ran across an

1115
00:45:52,366 --> 00:45:55,000
article by this 
woman again in one

1116
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,900
of those magazines. 
Who was pressing

1117
00:45:57,900 --> 00:46:00,266
flowers in the 
microwave. <Wow!>

1118
00:46:00,266 --> 00:46:04,666
This was a few years later. 
And I figured

1119
00:46:04,666 --> 00:46:06,600
out that that was a 
whole lot faster,

1120
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:08,200
easier way to do it. 
Because as soon as

1121
00:46:08,200 --> 00:46:10,033
they cool off, they 
spend two And a half

1122
00:46:10,033 --> 00:46:11,666
minutes in the 
microwave at half power.

1123
00:46:11,666 --> 00:46:13,966
Soon as they 
cool off,

1124
00:46:13,966 --> 00:46:15,600
they're ready to go. 
So you weren't sitting

1125
00:46:15,600 --> 00:46:18,233
waiting another six 
weeks for something

1126
00:46:18,233 --> 00:46:21,300
to dry to add to 
some project And it

1127
00:46:21,300 --> 00:46:22,666
didn't have to do so you 
have to do all that stuff.

1128
00:46:22,900 --> 00:46:24,333
Amanda: You said: 
You got some there.

1129
00:46:24,333 --> 00:46:26,200
Ruth: It's about an 
eight by 10 sheets.

1130
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,900
Have you got card 
hearts hardboard Oh,

1131
00:46:29,900 --> 00:46:31,266
Okay, thanks. Make 
those little brown

1132
00:46:31,266 --> 00:46:33,933
clipboards out of. 
<Yeah.> And it's you

1133
00:46:33,933 --> 00:46:36,466
make sandwich out of 
the hardboard.

1134
00:46:36,466 --> 00:46:38,700
Some desk plotter paper, 
which is kind of

1135
00:46:38,700 --> 00:46:42,700
hard to come by. 
Paper towels,

1136
00:46:42,700 --> 00:46:44,333
newspaper, make 
sandwich, which

1137
00:46:44,333 --> 00:46:45,533
flowers in there 
after you've trimmed

1138
00:46:45,533 --> 00:46:48,033
them up whatever you 
do to wrap heavy

1139
00:46:48,033 --> 00:46:50,100
duty, half inch 
rubber bands to in

1140
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:51,566
each direction And run 
them in the microwave.

1141
00:46:51,566 --> 00:46:54,300
Now, if 
you go online,

1142
00:46:54,300 --> 00:46:55,733
there's a lot of 
other ways that you

1143
00:46:55,733 --> 00:46:57,666
can do this. 
Some people use heavy

1144
00:46:57,666 --> 00:47:00,233
plates or they'll 
put like a flat

1145
00:47:00,233 --> 00:47:02,300
Corning ware pie plate 
laid on top of some things.

1146
00:47:02,300 --> 00:47:03,933
I've just 
been doing it this

1147
00:47:03,933 --> 00:47:05,533
way for so long. 
It's just easier

1148
00:47:05,533 --> 00:47:07,700
than try to well, 
why reinvent the

1149
00:47:07,700 --> 00:47:08,633
wheel as they say?

1150
00:47:09,533 --> 00:47:11,700
Amanda: I thought 
we'd show a few And

1151
00:47:11,700 --> 00:47:13,266
ask you about the 
flowers that are in.

1152
00:47:13,500 --> 00:47:16,466
And of course Swan 
Lake Gardens is, you know,

1153
00:47:16,466 --> 00:47:18,166
the iconic place 
to visit in Sumter.

1154
00:47:18,166 --> 00:47:22,066
And so what is art? 
What makes

1155
00:47:22,066 --> 00:47:23,666
this beautiful 
feathered swan?

1156
00:47:24,266 --> 00:47:26,700
Ruth: Well, those 
are Zinnia petals.

1157
00:47:27,133 --> 00:47:29,500
And it's very hard 
to find a white

1158
00:47:29,500 --> 00:47:33,000
flower that stays white. 
That's been the

1159
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:34,300
interesting 
thing through the

1160
00:47:34,300 --> 00:47:36,366
years of doing these 
is figuring out what

1161
00:47:36,366 --> 00:47:39,300
holds its color And 
what doesn't.

1162
00:47:39,300 --> 00:47:41,100
White doesn't stay white. 
It usually turns brown.

1163
00:47:41,100 --> 00:47:42,533
This is turned kind 
of a cream color.

1164
00:47:42,533 --> 00:47:45,966
A lot 
of reds turn a very

1165
00:47:45,966 --> 00:47:50,000
dark burgundy color. 
When my daughter in law

1166
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:51,566
got married, she 
wanted me to do

1167
00:47:51,566 --> 00:47:52,833
something for the wedding, 
like some place

1168
00:47:52,833 --> 00:47:54,700
cards And she had a 
red And white theme.

1169
00:47:54,700 --> 00:47:57,766
And the only 
flower that I could

1170
00:47:57,766 --> 00:48:00,566
find that started 
that would end up

1171
00:48:00,566 --> 00:48:03,366
red was to get a 
coral colored verbena.

1172
00:48:03,366 --> 00:48:06,900
Oh, And when it 
dries turns red.

1173
00:48:07,233 --> 00:48:09,100
Amanda: This I know, 
I've seen in a lot

1174
00:48:09,100 --> 00:48:11,533
of cards. And this 
is a very surprising flower.

1175
00:48:11,533 --> 00:48:13,200
I think John 
Nelson was the only

1176
00:48:13,200 --> 00:48:14,266
person here one 
night he got it right.

1177
00:48:15,766 --> 00:48:17,300
Ruth: I was answering 
the phones here one

1178
00:48:17,300 --> 00:48:21,266
night And you And 
Terasa And Rebecca Turk

1179
00:48:21,266 --> 00:48:23,433
from Moore farms 
And John were on the panel.

1180
00:48:23,433 --> 00:48:26,033
And I brought 
a card in like this

1181
00:48:26,033 --> 00:48:27,700
to see if anybody 
could identify this

1182
00:48:27,700 --> 00:48:30,733
flower because it 
looks like a hibiscus

1183
00:48:30,733 --> 00:48:32,233
And that's 
how John figured out

1184
00:48:32,233 --> 00:48:33,366
what it was. He said 
I don't know. But I

1185
00:48:33,366 --> 00:48:34,566
think it's in the 
hibiscus family

1186
00:48:34,566 --> 00:48:37,300
because of this 
little protrusion

1187
00:48:37,300 --> 00:48:39,533
right here. It's a 
Turks cap. And it's

1188
00:48:39,533 --> 00:48:42,300
an old timey shrub 
that a lot of folks

1189
00:48:42,300 --> 00:48:45,466
have had And it's 
bright red. And it

1190
00:48:45,466 --> 00:48:48,533
never opens up. 
I will say yeah,

1191
00:48:48,533 --> 00:48:51,366
it falls off the plant 
still closed up.

1192
00:48:51,366 --> 00:48:53,166
And I just happened to 
pick one up one day

1193
00:48:53,166 --> 00:48:55,966
I was in my hammock 
relaxing And opened

1194
00:48:55,966 --> 00:48:58,233
thing up And I have to 
give this a try.

1195
00:48:58,233 --> 00:49:00,033
That's really 
pretty. It keeps

1196
00:49:00,033 --> 00:49:02,133
this color. It's a 
beautiful color.

1197
00:49:02,133 --> 00:49:03,866
Amanda: Beautiful. 
And then I was going

1198
00:49:03,866 --> 00:49:07,000
to ask what these were.

1199
00:49:07,600 --> 00:49:09,400
Ruth: This is part 
of a Japanese maple.

1200
00:49:09,400 --> 00:49:12,033
Oh, Japanese maple 
And this is this is

1201
00:49:12,033 --> 00:49:15,333
the polka dot plant. 
<Yeah.> And these are

1202
00:49:15,333 --> 00:49:16,966
the can't remember 
what those are.

1203
00:49:16,966 --> 00:49:19,133
This is more Selaginella 
down here. And these

1204
00:49:19,133 --> 00:49:21,566
are elephant ears. 
<Elephant Ears.>

1205
00:49:21,566 --> 00:49:23,133
They first start 
sprouting. They're tiny.

1206
00:49:23,700 --> 00:49:24,666
Amanda: They're that tiny. 
I had not noticed.

1207
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,700
Ruth: Well, you know,

1208
00:49:26,700 --> 00:49:28,100
there's different varieties

1209
00:49:28,100 --> 00:49:30,266
of Colocasia 
alocasia, whatever.

1210
00:49:30,266 --> 00:49:32,366
Amanda: And then 
this one is a fun one.

1211
00:49:32,366 --> 00:49:34,733
Because her 
hair is quite unusual.

1212
00:49:35,033 --> 00:49:37,166
Ruth: You know what 
it has? Is is

1213
00:49:37,166 --> 00:49:39,866
parsley that's dying 
from last year. No,

1214
00:49:39,866 --> 00:49:41,800
it's turned bright 
yellow. Yep.

1215
00:49:42,066 --> 00:49:47,066
And the face is a 
hellebore. And her

1216
00:49:47,066 --> 00:49:49,433
legs are Zinnias. 
With the seeds still attached.

1217
00:49:49,433 --> 00:49:53,600
Oh, look 
at that. Hydrangea.

1218
00:49:53,600 --> 00:49:56,966
Oh. So this is this 
little this flower

1219
00:49:56,966 --> 00:49:58,600
here is also one of 
my favorites I

1220
00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,300
discovered five or 
six years ago.

1221
00:50:00,566 --> 00:50:04,300
It's the flower of 
an isora.

1222
00:50:05,466 --> 00:50:07,433
<Yeah.> commonly 
found in Florida,

1223
00:50:07,433 --> 00:50:09,400
you know, it's 
tropical, but they

1224
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:12,566
sell it around here. 
And those little for

1225
00:50:12,566 --> 00:50:15,566
flowers four petaled 
flowers. I brought

1226
00:50:15,566 --> 00:50:18,233
some with me anyway, 
keep that red color.

1227
00:50:18,233 --> 00:50:19,466
And a lot of times 
that little bit of

1228
00:50:19,466 --> 00:50:21,133
red is just the 
amount of punch you need.

1229
00:50:22,433 --> 00:50:23,766
Amanda: Something to pop. 
Well, that is too much fun.

1230
00:50:23,766 --> 00:50:25,666
And she certainly did need a

1231
00:50:25,666 --> 00:50:31,333
ribbon that's needed 
to be pulled back.

1232
00:50:31,333 --> 00:50:35,000
Well, we thought 
perhaps you would

1233
00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:36,933
give us a 
demonstration?

1234
00:50:37,366 --> 00:50:39,666
Ruth: Well, this is 
a very high tech hobby.

1235
00:50:39,666 --> 00:50:41,766
Oh, you need you need 
a lot of equipment,

1236
00:50:41,766 --> 00:50:45,400
you need tooth pick 
up some Elmers glue.

1237
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:49,000
Okay, that's about it.

1238
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,600
I don't know that you 
couldn't use other

1239
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:51,966
types of glue And 
stuff. But like I said,

1240
00:50:51,966 --> 00:50:53,133
as long as 
it's everybody

1241
00:50:53,133 --> 00:50:55,000
likes, And I'm just 
looking for

1242
00:50:55,000 --> 00:51:00,500
something that will 
last long enough for

1243
00:51:00,500 --> 00:51:02,833
somebody buy a card, 
mail it And send it somebody.

1244
00:51:04,633 --> 00:51:06,200
Amanda: Lots of 
people frame them?

1245
00:51:06,500 --> 00:51:07,700
Ruth: Well, I was 
going to show you

1246
00:51:07,700 --> 00:51:09,866
the one down on the end. 
It's one that I

1247
00:51:09,866 --> 00:51:11,900
probably did 10 12 
years ago And the

1248
00:51:11,900 --> 00:51:13,766
colors were a lot 
more vibrant when I

1249
00:51:13,766 --> 00:51:16,000
first did it. 
But they've all faded to

1250
00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:19,666
a nice tone of 
browns And golds And

1251
00:51:19,666 --> 00:51:21,733
all that blend 
in together.

1252
00:51:21,733 --> 00:51:23,466
You shouldn't ever if 
you're going to

1253
00:51:23,466 --> 00:51:25,066
frame one, don't 
ever put it in

1254
00:51:25,066 --> 00:51:27,333
bright light because 
natural light is

1255
00:51:27,333 --> 00:51:29,400
going to fade most 
colors if anything

1256
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,800
And particularly 
natural substances.

1257
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:34,066
Amanda: Okay, so we 
have toothpicks.

1258
00:51:34,633 --> 00:51:39,466
Ruth: Yep, check one 
out. And it's real

1259
00:51:39,466 --> 00:51:45,600
easy to just grab 
you a couple of fronds.

1260
00:51:46,133 --> 00:51:47,366
Amanda: And this is 
a lot of fern.

1261
00:51:49,533 --> 00:51:51,933
Ruth: Just put a 
little on here And

1262
00:51:51,933 --> 00:51:54,266
put it on the back 
And try to just hit

1263
00:51:54,266 --> 00:51:57,933
it with a light coat 
And covers all of

1264
00:51:57,933 --> 00:51:59,666
the leaf if you can, 
because if you don't

1265
00:51:59,666 --> 00:52:01,700
that one piece that 
you didn't get glue on is

1266
00:52:01,700 --> 00:52:03,866
what's gonna stick 
up And catch when

1267
00:52:03,866 --> 00:52:04,666
you go to put the 
card in the envelope.

1268
00:52:04,666 --> 00:52:10,266
Yeah, you 
know that. So And I

1269
00:52:10,266 --> 00:52:12,933
usually put stuff in 
the... or wherever

1270
00:52:12,933 --> 00:52:14,500
you want upper left 
And lower right

1271
00:52:14,500 --> 00:52:17,800
anyway, just just so 
you leave some room on

1272
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:22,800
the card to write something. 
And I've done...

1273
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:25,966
Amanda: that these 
have an inside where

1274
00:52:25,966 --> 00:52:27,100
you can write the 
message.

1275
00:52:27,433 --> 00:52:30,133
Ruth: Yeah, yeah. 
I've done like the

1276
00:52:30,133 --> 00:52:32,300
ones that have fish 
on them. Yes. And

1277
00:52:32,300 --> 00:52:34,000
you send it as a get 
well card saying

1278
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:35,433
hope you're sitting 
back in the swim,

1279
00:52:35,433 --> 00:52:39,133
that sort of thing. 
It's kind of cute.

1280
00:52:39,133 --> 00:52:41,000
A little different. 
Yeah. And I think

1281
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,700
people enjoy getting 
something that

1282
00:52:42,700 --> 00:52:44,000
somebody's take.

1283
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,166
Amanda: Oh, I don't 
think there's any

1284
00:52:45,166 --> 00:52:46,066
question about it.

1285
00:52:46,066 --> 00:53:19,600
♪♪

1286
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:24,666
Well Ann, I am it's 
not up to your

1287
00:53:24,666 --> 00:53:26,933
standards, but 
you've certainly got

1288
00:53:26,933 --> 00:53:28,633
me interested in 
very creative And

1289
00:53:28,633 --> 00:53:30,533
I'm even more 
appreciative of your

1290
00:53:30,533 --> 00:53:32,300
talents than ever. 
<Bless your heart.>

1291
00:53:32,300 --> 00:53:34,033
Thank you so much. 
You're quite welcome.

1292
00:53:35,833 --> 00:53:37,566
me some people out 
there hope they try it.

1293
00:53:38,300 --> 00:53:39,600
Ruth: Oh, I hope so it's fun.

1294
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:40,966
Amanda: Oh, yes, it 
was. Thanks a lot.

1295
00:53:40,966 --> 00:53:41,566
I want to thank my 
friend Ruth Anne for

1296
00:53:41,566 --> 00:53:47,600
<Sure.>

1297
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:49,300
Amanda: I want to thank 
my friend Ruth Anne for

1298
00:53:49,300 --> 00:53:50,666
coming in And 
sharing her beautiful

1299
00:53:50,666 --> 00:53:54,433
cards with you. 
Casey, which got for us?

1300
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:58,733
<Casey>: So this 
right here is a

1301
00:53:58,733 --> 00:54:00,866
black lace elderberry. 
<Yes.>

1302
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,966
Really pretty 
ornamental plant

1303
00:54:03,966 --> 00:54:06,700
prefers Part shade 
can take a good

1304
00:54:06,700 --> 00:54:09,733
amount of sun here. 
They say full sun,

1305
00:54:09,733 --> 00:54:11,333
but in South Carolina, 
I will go

1306
00:54:11,333 --> 00:54:14,300
Part shade it will 
get pretty large

1307
00:54:14,300 --> 00:54:17,100
eight to 10 foot. 
The buds are black

1308
00:54:17,100 --> 00:54:18,166
when they first 
start out in the spring.

1309
00:54:18,166 --> 00:54:21,133
Then as the 
summer goes on the

1310
00:54:21,133 --> 00:54:23,366
leaves And start 
turning into a dark

1311
00:54:23,366 --> 00:54:25,966
purple almost black 
color, And then have

1312
00:54:25,966 --> 00:54:29,066
the really pretty 
light pink flowers.

1313
00:54:29,066 --> 00:54:31,366
Amanda: Weren't people 
hot to trot about elderberry?

1314
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:33,133
<Casey>: Yeah, 
everybody wanted

1315
00:54:33,133 --> 00:54:34,700
elderberry when 
COVID happened.

1316
00:54:35,133 --> 00:54:38,833
Anything that save 
you from the panic

1317
00:54:38,833 --> 00:54:41,766
but you know you do 
if you do want it

1318
00:54:41,766 --> 00:54:43,433
for the berries, you 
do have to get two

1319
00:54:43,433 --> 00:54:45,700
different varieties. 
They're not picky on

1320
00:54:45,700 --> 00:54:48,000
which ones cross 
pollinate each other.

1321
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:49,533
That is one good thing. 
They're not picky about that.

1322
00:54:51,533 --> 00:54:52,966
<Now how big is this 
going to get?>

1323
00:54:52,966 --> 00:54:54,000
This variety of 
eight to 10 feet.

1324
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,333
Amanda: Okay. And 
you you like the way

1325
00:54:56,333 --> 00:54:57,533
it looks in your 
landscape?

1326
00:54:57,533 --> 00:54:59,000
<Casey>: Yeah, it's 
cool. Yeah, so cool

1327
00:54:59,000 --> 00:55:02,833
ornamental. almost, 
you know, Japanese

1328
00:55:02,833 --> 00:55:07,500
in type look kind of 
some people think

1329
00:55:07,500 --> 00:55:09,133
their type of 
Japanese maple when

1330
00:55:09,133 --> 00:55:12,266
you see that dark, 
no problems. No just

1331
00:55:12,266 --> 00:55:14,100
you know, here give 
them give them some shade.

1332
00:55:14,100 --> 00:55:15,566
They don't. 
They don't want all

1333
00:55:15,566 --> 00:55:18,000
that blistering sun. 
Thank you. Okay.

1334
00:55:18,566 --> 00:55:19,966
Amanda: Well thank 
you everyone for

1335
00:55:19,966 --> 00:55:21,500
being with us And 
thank you at home

1336
00:55:21,500 --> 00:55:23,266
for being with us 
And we hope you'll

1337
00:55:23,266 --> 00:55:24,766
be with us next week. 
Night night.

1338
00:55:24,766 --> 00:55:28,766
♪♪

1339
00:55:28,766 --> 00:55:33,500
♪(Captioned by: SCETV)♪

1340
00:55:33,500 --> 00:55:40,400
♪(Thanks for watching)♪

1341
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:41,966
<Narrator>: Making 
it Grow is brought

1342
00:55:41,966 --> 00:55:44,766
to you in part by 
Certified South

1343
00:55:44,766 --> 00:55:46,933
Carolina is a 
cooperative effort

1344
00:55:46,933 --> 00:55:48,866
among farmers 
retailers And the

1345
00:55:48,866 --> 00:55:50,400
South Carolina 
Department of

1346
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,666
Agriculture to help 
consumers identify

1347
00:55:53,666 --> 00:55:55,200
foods And 
agricultural

1348
00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:57,466
products that are 
grown harvested or

1349
00:55:57,466 --> 00:55:59,933
raised right here in 
the Palmetto State.

1350
00:56:01,433 --> 00:56:04,033
The Boyd Foundation 
supporting outdoor

1351
00:56:04,033 --> 00:56:06,233
recreational 
opportunities,

1352
00:56:06,233 --> 00:56:08,933
the appreciation of 
wildlife educational

1353
00:56:08,933 --> 00:56:11,166
programs, And 
enhancing the

1354
00:56:11,166 --> 00:56:13,300
quality of life in 
Columbia, South Carolina

1355
00:56:13,300 --> 00:56:15,966
And the 
Midlands at large.

1356
00:56:17,033 --> 00:56:20,300
McLeod Farms in 
Mc Bee South Carolina

1357
00:56:20,300 --> 00:56:23,900
family owned And 
operated since 1916.

1358
00:56:24,233 --> 00:56:26,666
This family farm 
offers seasonal produce,

1359
00:56:26,666 --> 00:56:30,033
including over 40 
varieties of peaches.

1360
00:56:30,033 --> 00:56:33,866
Additional 
funding provided by

1361
00:56:34,133 --> 00:56:36,066
the South Carolina 
Farm Bureau Federation

1362
00:56:36,066 --> 00:56:39,900
And 
Farm Bureau Insurance

1363
00:56:39,900 --> 00:56:41,566
And BOONE HALL FARMS.