WEBVTT 00:02.433 --> 00:04.800 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% GEOFF BENNETT: Well, Pennsylvania is shaping up to be a critical country. State in this presidential 00:04.800 --> 00:08.233 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% election, with both the Trump and Harris campaign spending considerable time and money there. 00:10.133 --> 00:12.000 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% Congresswoman Madeleine Dean represents the state's Fourth District. That's a 00:12.000 --> 00:13.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% suburb of Philadelphia. And she joins us now. 00:13.833 --> 00:16.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Great to have you back on the program. 00:16.000 --> 00:18.433 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% REP. MADELEINE DEAN (D-PA): I'm delighted to be here with you on this exciting night. 00:18.433 --> 00:22.300 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GEOFF BENNETT: Well, look, when we last spoke in early July, you were among those Democrats 00:22.300 --> 00:27.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% who was supporting President Biden, even as party leaders were at the time privately suggesting he 00:29.466 --> 00:32.900 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% exit the race. You said he defeated Donald Trump once and that he had the record to do it again. 00:32.900 --> 00:35.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I wonder what you make now of the way in 00:35.166 --> 00:38.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% which this party has so quickly coalesced around Kamala Harris. 00:38.666 --> 00:42.133 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% REP. MADELEINE DEAN: Well, and I do stand by Joe Biden. What a record of accomplishment, 00:42.133 --> 00:47.100 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% 50-plus years. And I am delighted to see the kind of response that he gets tonight. 00:48.433 --> 00:50.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It will blow the roof off this place, I'm certain. 00:50.333 --> 00:52.666 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% GEOFF BENNETT: As they start the sound check here as we're speaking. 00:52.666 --> 00:53.500 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% REP. MADELEINE DEAN: Exactly, yes. 00:53.500 --> 00:55.300 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% GEOFF BENNETT: Yes. 00:55.300 --> 00:58.033 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% REP. MADELEINE DEAN: But -- and all the lead-up speakers before him. 00:58.033 --> 01:03.000 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% But I was also clear-eyed about the challenges ahead of us. And I expressed that to my caucus, 01:04.933 --> 01:09.100 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% as well as to the campaign. I stand by the president and all of what he has done, 01:11.300 --> 01:14.233 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% all the accomplishments, I will say, alongside a Democratic Congress and a Democratic Senate. 01:16.333 --> 01:19.533 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Think of all the bills that we have passed that he spearheaded and signed into law that changed 01:21.900 --> 01:25.233 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% our economy, grew jobs. So I'm just delighted with where we are. The enthusiasm is palpable back in 01:28.433 --> 01:33.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% my district, in the Fourth Congressional District, suburban Philadelphia. And delighted to be here. 01:34.300 --> 01:35.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% This is my first convention. 01:35.133 --> 01:36.033 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% GEOFF BENNETT: Really? 01:36.033 --> 01:37.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% REP. MADELEINE DEAN: Yes. 01:37.900 --> 01:39.900 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% GEOFF BENNETT: So, what do you expect we will hear from President Biden 01:39.900 --> 01:42.233 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% tonight as he makes the case for Vice President Harris as the party's nominee? 01:42.233 --> 01:44.966 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% REP. MADELEINE DEAN: I think we will hear more of the accomplishments and 01:44.966 --> 01:49.866 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% the record that they have set. And you can talk number one about the economy. And we 01:49.866 --> 01:54.233 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% have seen Donald Trump and J.D. Vance try to talk about the economy. They have put 01:54.233 --> 01:59.200 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% forward Project 2025. They have put forward the notion of big tariffs and mass deportations. 02:01.233 --> 02:04.866 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% That will be incredibly inflationary. Every economist tells us that. So they will talk 02:04.866 --> 02:09.033 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% about the economy. They will talk -- he will talk about the accomplishment 02:09.033 --> 02:14.033 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% of growing 15-plus million jobs, bringing inflation down, bringing manufacturing back, 02:16.133 --> 02:20.733 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% bringing the Safer Communities Act into law, which is actually saving lives from gun violence. 02:22.633 --> 02:27.066 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% It's just such a stark contrast of going back to something that was incredibly dark 02:29.000 --> 02:33.900 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% and caustic to our democracy, as capped off by January the 6th, as you well know, 02:36.800 --> 02:41.800 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% just a very criminal, corrupt set of norms for the former president. 02:43.866 --> 02:46.600 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% We're not going back, as my granddaughter says, who's 3. We're not going back. We're 02:46.600 --> 02:50.966 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% going forward for the American people, for my children, our grandchildren, 02:50.966 --> 02:55.933 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% for the economy, for the environment, for education, for women's rights, for freedom. 02:57.833 --> 03:00.066 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GEOFF BENNETT: All of the enthusiasm, energy, unity on the Democratic side, 03:00.066 --> 03:04.466 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% is there a risk that that masks the fact that this is still a competitive race? And, 03:04.466 --> 03:07.433 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% as one Democrat today told me, this is Donald Trump's race to lose. 03:07.433 --> 03:11.700 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% REP. MADELEINE DEAN: I absolutely think you're right. We mustn't get overly enthusiastic, 03:11.700 --> 03:16.700 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% and so rose-eyed glasses that we think that this is going to be a cakewalk. It is not. 03:19.066 --> 03:21.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And my district, suburban Philadelphia, is going to be the place to watch. Pennsylvania will be 03:21.533 --> 03:26.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the Keystone State again. We have to dig in. We have to do the work to protect our democracy, 03:28.600 --> 03:31.600 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% to grow our democracy. And what a better place to do it than in the birthplace of our democracy? 03:31.600 --> 03:36.600 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% So I'm also clear-eyed about that. This is not just such enthusiasm that you win 03:38.700 --> 03:42.033 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% a presidential race this way. We have to dig in and do the work and tend to our democracy. 03:43.966 --> 03:46.600 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% GEOFF BENNETT: Are Democrats in a better position to hold the House -- or, rather, 03:46.600 --> 03:51.266 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% win the House, in your view, with a Harris/Walz ticket than they were with a Biden/Harris ticket? 03:51.266 --> 03:55.433 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% REP. MADELEINE DEAN: I feel the enthusiasm. And one of our worries was that there was -- perhaps 03:55.433 --> 03:59.166 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% people would sit out the election, particularly the congressional elections, 03:59.166 --> 04:03.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% not knowing the difference between a majority and a minority and what difference that makes. 04:03.900 --> 04:08.066 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% Take a look at the difference that it has made this Congress as Democrats went into the 04:08.066 --> 04:13.066 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% minority. We passed six massive big bills when we were in the majority. This year, 04:15.000 --> 04:17.933 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% the Republican majority can't get out of their own way. You saw what they did in 04:17.933 --> 04:22.666 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% terms of having a speaker. You saw what they have done in terms of passing budget bills. 04:22.666 --> 04:27.666 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% They let us go home a week early in this incredibly crucial cycle because they couldn't 04:29.966 --> 04:32.900 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% get their own members to do the work of passing budget bills with a seriousness about governing. 04:34.600 --> 04:37.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% GEOFF BENNETT: You represent a solidly Democratic 04:37.233 --> 04:42.233 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% district President Biden won by some 24 points back in 2020. In many ways, 04:44.366 --> 04:46.800 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% what happens in your district is a case study for how Democrats might vote across the country. 04:46.800 --> 04:50.433 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% How are they responding to Kamala Harris and to the policies she's put forward so far? 04:50.433 --> 04:54.666 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% REP. MADELEINE DEAN: Well, I have been doing a number of canvass launches and helping people get 04:54.666 --> 04:59.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% their literature together, picking up their signs and getting their turfs to go knock on doors. 04:59.233 --> 05:03.100 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% And I will tell you I have met person after person. One man, in particular, 05:03.100 --> 05:06.466 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% he said -- he walked up to me and he said: "I'm not even sure that I know you, 05:06.466 --> 05:11.466 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% but I know you're my congresswoman. I am 59 years old. I have never put a yard sign up. 05:13.733 --> 05:16.933 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70% I have never contributed to a campaign. I have never knocked on a door for a candidate. I'm in." 05:18.866 --> 05:21.866 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% That's really the feeling we are getting in our district. People are in. They want 05:21.866 --> 05:25.900 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80% to do the work of democracy because they recognize how important it is. 05:25.900 --> 05:28.466 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% GEOFF BENNETT: Democratic Congresswoman Madeleine Dean, thanks so much for being with us. 05:28.466 --> 05:29.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% REP. MADELEINE DEAN: Thanks for having me.