1 00:00:01,966 --> 00:00:04,233 AMNA NAWAZ: Russian and North Korea have taken a step toward improving relations, 2 00:00:04,233 --> 00:00:09,100 as President Vladimir Putin and Kim Jong-un signed a strategic partnership agreement 3 00:00:09,100 --> 00:00:14,100 today. Both sides pledged to help each other's defense and security and to fight off sanctions. 4 00:00:15,266 --> 00:00:18,566 Stephanie Sy has the story. 5 00:00:18,566 --> 00:00:21,633 STEPHANIE SY: As the Russian jet rolled in to Pyongyang, 6 00:00:21,633 --> 00:00:26,433 the North Koreans rolled out the red carpet. Leader Kim Jong-un welcomed 7 00:00:26,433 --> 00:00:31,433 President Vladimir Putin to North Korea for the first time in 24 years. 8 00:00:33,533 --> 00:00:36,666 As Putin looks for support for his war in Ukraine, Kim hopes to find an economic and 9 00:00:38,733 --> 00:00:42,266 military ally. The tone for the summit was set with a sturdy embrace. In recent years, 10 00:00:44,200 --> 00:00:48,666 the countries have flirted with stronger ties. Kim Jong-un first traveled to Russia 11 00:00:50,766 --> 00:00:54,000 in 2019 and again in 2023 to meet Putin. But neither trip produced a formal alliance. 12 00:00:57,466 --> 00:01:02,233 The U.S. accuses North Korea of sending ammunition and weapons to Russia for its 13 00:01:02,233 --> 00:01:07,233 war in Ukraine and worries that, in exchange, Russia is boosting North Korea's nuclear 14 00:01:09,366 --> 00:01:13,200 program. Kim and Putin have denied it, since such a trade would violate U.N. sanctions. 15 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,066 But, in March, a Russian veto on the Security Council ended the 16 00:01:19,066 --> 00:01:24,066 U.N.'s monitoring of nuclear sanctions on North Korea and raised alarm bells. 17 00:01:26,300 --> 00:01:28,400 VLADIMIR PUTIN, Russian President (through translator): We highly appreciate your consistent 18 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:32,900 and unwavering support for Russian policy. I'm referring to our fight against the hegemonic 19 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,233 policy imposed for decades, the imperialist policy of the United States and its satellites. 20 00:01:39,500 --> 00:01:41,400 STEPHANIE SY: Today's summit formalized the 21 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:46,000 strongest relationship between the two countries since the Cold War. 22 00:01:48,066 --> 00:01:49,500 KIM JONG-UN, North Korean Leader (through translator): Our two countries' relations 23 00:01:49,500 --> 00:01:52,066 have been elevated to a new high-level of alliance, 24 00:01:52,066 --> 00:01:56,066 laying the legal groundwork for the grand ideas of leadership of the two countries. 25 00:01:56,066 --> 00:02:00,300 STEPHANIE SY: The treaty includes military-technical cooperation between the two 26 00:02:00,300 --> 00:02:05,233 countries, a mutual defense pact and opposition to Western sanctions against North Korea. 27 00:02:06,866 --> 00:02:10,966 Before the agreement was announced, the Pentagon raised red flags. 28 00:02:10,966 --> 00:02:13,000 MAJ. GEN. PATRICK RYDER, Pentagon Press Secretary: The deepening 29 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,600 cooperation between Russia and the DPRK is something that should be of concern. 30 00:02:18,466 --> 00:02:20,333 JENS STOLTENBERG, NATO Secretary-General: What happens in Europe matters for 31 00:02:20,333 --> 00:02:22,733 Asia and what happens in Asia matters for us. 32 00:02:22,733 --> 00:02:25,833 STEPHANIE SY: NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg appeared with 33 00:02:25,833 --> 00:02:29,833 Secretary of State Antony Blinken yesterday ahead of the summit. 34 00:02:29,833 --> 00:02:32,100 ANTONY BLINKEN, U.S. Secretary of State: We have seen, as you have said, 35 00:02:32,100 --> 00:02:36,800 Russia try in desperation to develop and to strengthen relations with countries that can 36 00:02:38,900 --> 00:02:43,333 provide it with what it needs to continue the war of aggression that it started against Ukraine. 37 00:02:45,366 --> 00:02:48,166 STEPHANIE SY: In Pyongyang, the state visit came to an end with dinner and drinks, 38 00:02:48,166 --> 00:02:53,033 as the two leaders made a show of their deepening partnership. 39 00:02:53,033 --> 00:02:55,166 While the details of what the Russians and North 40 00:02:55,166 --> 00:02:59,500 Koreans agreed to has not been made public, some observers are concerned. 41 00:02:59,500 --> 00:03:04,466 For more, we turn to Robert Gallucci. He was the U.S. State Department's lead negotiator 42 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:09,633 with North Korea in 1994, when the North agreed to freeze its nuclear program in 43 00:03:11,466 --> 00:03:14,900 exchange for economic benefits. He's also a professor at Georgetown University. 44 00:03:14,900 --> 00:03:17,866 Robert, thank you so much for joining the "NewsHour." 45 00:03:17,866 --> 00:03:22,866 So, Putin and Kim announced they signed a comprehensive strategic partnership treaty, 46 00:03:25,066 --> 00:03:29,666 and Putin called it a breakthrough document. As we start to see some details come out, 47 00:03:30,866 --> 00:03:33,666 do you see it that way? Is it a big deal? 48 00:03:33,666 --> 00:03:38,200 ROBERT GALLUCCI, Georgetown University: It is important and negative. I think it is both those 49 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:43,200 things. But it's not a fundamental change in the nature of relations of major states. 50 00:03:46,533 --> 00:03:51,433 It isn't good news in terms of what the North Koreans have been supplying the Russians, 51 00:03:51,433 --> 00:03:55,666 so that they can more effectively prosecute their invasion and war 52 00:03:55,666 --> 00:04:00,633 against Ukraine. That's not good news. And on the other hand, we can't be really 53 00:04:02,566 --> 00:04:07,200 sure what it is exactly the Russians are going to transfer to the North Koreans. 54 00:04:09,100 --> 00:04:12,666 STEPHANIE SY: Yes, let's break down the significant parts of what we do know, 55 00:04:12,666 --> 00:04:17,666 starting with what Putin called military technical cooperation. 56 00:04:19,966 --> 00:04:23,000 Do you think that is a concerning development, the announcement of that? And what could it mean 57 00:04:24,933 --> 00:04:27,733 as far as Pyongyang's nuclear weapons capability? What could they transfer? 58 00:04:27,733 --> 00:04:32,733 ROBERT GALLUCCI: The key issue is, will the Russians materially assist the North 59 00:04:34,666 --> 00:04:38,233 Koreans in having a more effective, more threatening nuclear weapons capability? 60 00:04:40,333 --> 00:04:45,033 And by that, I mean not only the weapons themselves. Will they be thermonuclear weapons 61 00:04:47,100 --> 00:04:50,200 assistance, as opposed to simple fission weapons? Will now their yield go up? Will the confidence 62 00:04:52,300 --> 00:04:57,000 that North Koreans have in their weapons go up, thanks to Russian assistance? Will the delivery 63 00:04:59,166 --> 00:05:03,533 vehicles, the ballistic missiles, particularly the intercontinental ballistic missiles? 64 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,200 There have for a long time been real questions about whether the North should have any confidence 65 00:05:11,300 --> 00:05:15,600 in their ICBMs, their ability to deliver nuclear weapons against the continental United States, 66 00:05:17,600 --> 00:05:20,800 given that they can't be sure that the warheads containing these nuclear weapons 67 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:25,633 would actually survive the trip and reentry and work effectively. 68 00:05:25,633 --> 00:05:30,633 And it's not clear at all when, in what we understand will be the language of this, 69 00:05:33,266 --> 00:05:38,266 when and if it's released, that the Russians are committing to these kinds of transfers. 70 00:05:40,300 --> 00:05:45,300 STEPHANIE SY: I assume those would be violations of international law and sanctions. 71 00:05:47,133 --> 00:05:50,800 Both countries have been under varying sanctions, especially North Korea. And if 72 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:55,633 you believe U.S. officials, both are already violating these sanctions through these arms 73 00:05:55,633 --> 00:06:00,633 and ammunition transfers to do with Ukraine. You have engaged in high-level diplomacy with 74 00:06:02,700 --> 00:06:06,833 North Korea in the past. What can and should be done now by the Biden administration? 75 00:06:08,533 --> 00:06:11,433 ROBERT GALLUCCI: We should deplore what the Russian moves signals, 76 00:06:11,433 --> 00:06:16,433 and that is first no longer a willingness on the part of the Russians to see the direction 77 00:06:18,866 --> 00:06:23,866 of events to lead to an eventual denuclearization of the peninsula. 78 00:06:25,966 --> 00:06:29,466 In other words, the Russians had been aboard with the Chinese and sort of the rest of the world 79 00:06:31,200 --> 00:06:35,200 at sanctioning, U.N. sanctions, sanctioning the North Koreans for 80 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,066 their ballistic missile and nuclear weapons development. 81 00:06:38,066 --> 00:06:41,833 I think this, if it does nothing else, signals the Russians are no 82 00:06:41,833 --> 00:06:46,533 longer aboard. And that ought to be deplored. It ought to be criticized. 83 00:06:46,533 --> 00:06:49,600 STEPHANIE SY: You said it was bad news. Is it also bad news that part 84 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,700 of this agreement includes a mutual defense pact? 85 00:06:52,700 --> 00:06:55,666 ROBERT GALLUCCI: I do not know what it means. I certainly -- even if I had the 86 00:06:55,666 --> 00:06:59,500 text in front of me -- and nobody does, as I understand it -- it is hard to tell. 87 00:07:01,666 --> 00:07:05,066 I mean, when the Russians make a deal, and it's -- they have been clear -- they don't 88 00:07:07,033 --> 00:07:09,600 call it an alliance. The North called it an alliance, but not the Russians. I mean, 89 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:14,600 the last time the Russians made a security commitment that I know of like this was 1994 90 00:07:16,700 --> 00:07:20,133 in the Budapest Memorandum when they promised that they would not threaten Ukraine's security. 91 00:07:22,166 --> 00:07:26,233 Well, we all know what that was worth. We all ought to remember nothing has changed here, 92 00:07:26,233 --> 00:07:30,333 really. The North has been providing this military aid to the Russians. The 93 00:07:30,333 --> 00:07:34,033 Russians are still pursuing their invasion of Ukraine. 94 00:07:34,033 --> 00:07:38,533 We have talked about the one thing that might be important and different, and that 95 00:07:38,533 --> 00:07:43,533 is if the Russians started supplying technical assistance to the weapons of mass destruction 96 00:07:45,766 --> 00:07:50,200 and delivery vehicles that the North Koreans have been developing for the last 25 years. 97 00:07:52,466 --> 00:07:55,533 STEPHANIE SY: Robert Gallucci, thank you so much for joining us with your analysis. Appreciate it. 98 00:07:55,533 --> 00:07:56,533 ROBERT GALLUCCI: Thank you much.