1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:05,800 GEOFF BENNETT: Good evening. I'm Geoff Bennett. 2 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:07,033 AMNA NAWAZ: And I'm Amna Nawaz. 3 00:00:07,033 --> 00:00:09,333 On the "News Hour" tonight: Israel 4 00:00:09,333 --> 00:00:14,333 urges Palestinians to leave Gaza City as it ramps up airstrikes and ground operations. 5 00:00:16,300 --> 00:00:18,933 GEOFF BENNETT: An ICE raid at a Hyundai plant in Georgia illustrates the Trump 6 00:00:18,933 --> 00:00:22,633 administration's increasing focus on businesses that employ immigrants. 7 00:00:22,633 --> 00:00:26,933 AMNA NAWAZ: And we report from the coast of Maine on seabirds that are struggling 8 00:00:26,933 --> 00:00:31,933 to survive in a rapidly warming climate and how scientists are working to help them. 9 00:00:33,866 --> 00:00:36,166 STEVE KRESS, Audubon Seabird Institute: Take away the people, and we lose these 10 00:00:36,166 --> 00:00:41,133 species. We are the cause of the problem. We need to be the cause of the solution. 11 00:00:41,633 --> 00:00:46,300 (BREAK) 12 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,400 AMNA NAWAZ: Welcome to the "News Hour." 13 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,100 Tonight, there is war and violence from Gaza to the West Bank, after 14 00:02:39,100 --> 00:02:43,600 a terrorist attack killed six Israelis and wounded more than 20 at a bus stop 15 00:02:43,600 --> 00:02:48,600 in Jerusalem. Israel has now raided the West Bank town where it says the gunmen came from. 16 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:52,666 GEOFF BENNETT: At the same time, Israel's military is assaulting Gaza City, 17 00:02:52,666 --> 00:02:57,633 destroying high-rise buildings, as the U.S. gives Hamas an ultimatum: Take a new cease-fire 18 00:02:59,966 --> 00:03:03,233 deal that's on the table or Israel will proceed with its plans to take over Gaza's largest city. 19 00:03:04,100 --> 00:03:07,900 Nick Schifrin has our story. 20 00:03:07,900 --> 00:03:12,900 NICK SCHIFRIN: Today, in the Holy City, terror. During the morning rush hour at a busy bus stop, 21 00:03:14,933 --> 00:03:18,733 Jerusalem commuters ran from the sound of bullets. Two gunmen that Israel identified as 22 00:03:21,133 --> 00:03:24,333 Palestinians from the West Bank shot into a busy bus after the driver refused to let them board. 23 00:03:26,433 --> 00:03:29,033 OHEVYA SHARABI, Medic (through translator): We saw people lying on the ground, people bleeding, 24 00:03:29,033 --> 00:03:34,033 people in panic running in every direction. It was a very, very difficult event. 25 00:03:35,900 --> 00:03:38,700 NICK SCHIFRIN: Hamas prays the attack. Israel says more than 20 were wounded, 26 00:03:38,700 --> 00:03:43,700 six killed, including a rabbi, laid to rest as loved ones mourned. 27 00:03:46,300 --> 00:03:50,233 Israeli troops quickly shut down the West Bank area outside Jerusalem where it said 28 00:03:50,233 --> 00:03:54,666 the attackers lived and raided one of their homes. Israeli Prime Minister 29 00:03:54,666 --> 00:03:58,733 Benjamin Netanyahu visited the attacked bus and vowed to pursue what he called 30 00:03:58,733 --> 00:04:03,700 West Bank terrorist nests and at the same time take over Gaza City. 31 00:04:05,966 --> 00:04:08,133 BENJAMIN NETANYAHU, Israeli Prime Minister (through translator): I'm taking this opportunity 32 00:04:08,133 --> 00:04:11,400 to say to the residents of Gaza, listen to me carefully. You have been warned. Get out of there. 33 00:04:14,300 --> 00:04:16,933 NICK SCHIFRIN: There's not much warning in Gaza these days, 34 00:04:16,933 --> 00:04:20,933 about nine seconds between an initial airstrike on a high-rise that Israel 35 00:04:20,933 --> 00:04:25,933 claims is being used by Hamas and a second airstrike designed to demolish. 36 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:33,400 Israel says it has now destroyed 50 high-rises, including two today. The damage on the ground 37 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:43,000 is devastating and widespread. This is Gaza's largest city. And among the ruins, 38 00:04:45,100 --> 00:04:50,033 there is shock. This family had been sheltering in a tent next to the tower that is now rubble. 39 00:04:53,100 --> 00:04:58,100 Ali Al-Qassas says he everyone else here had less than a 10-minute warning. 40 00:05:00,066 --> 00:05:02,200 ALI AL-QASSAS, Displaced Gazan (through translator): Here are our women. Look, 41 00:05:02,200 --> 00:05:06,333 where are they going to go? Where will they go? Here are their tents. These children, 42 00:05:08,133 --> 00:05:10,766 what fault do they have in this? 43 00:05:10,766 --> 00:05:15,766 NICK SCHIFRIN: It is a new phase in this war, destroying Gaza City's most visible buildings, 44 00:05:17,666 --> 00:05:21,866 terrifying even for a population for whom airstrikes have become all too common and 45 00:05:23,800 --> 00:05:27,600 deadly. Health authorities say today's Israeli airstrikes killed more than 50 46 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:32,400 Palestinians, the youngest only 2 years old. 47 00:05:32,400 --> 00:05:36,700 And Israel's threats to take over Gaza City have sparked a daily dilemma for 48 00:05:36,700 --> 00:05:41,700 everyone sheltering here: Do we stay or do we go again? Some refuse, despite the Israeli leaflets 49 00:05:44,466 --> 00:05:49,466 that look like birds, but carry ominous warnings, which neighborhood to evacuate. 50 00:05:51,233 --> 00:05:54,833 Others feel there is no choice, even if they're at a loss for where to go. 51 00:05:56,900 --> 00:05:59,066 SHIREEN AL-LADA, Displaced Gazan (through translator): Every time we move to a place, 52 00:05:59,066 --> 00:06:02,900 we get displaced. Every time we go to an area, they attack. Every time we go somewhere, 53 00:06:05,066 --> 00:06:09,933 they ask us to leave. There's no safe place in Gaza. I am compelled to repeat this experience. 54 00:06:12,700 --> 00:06:15,666 NICK SCHIFRIN: Israel and the U.S. say this moment is not a repeat, 55 00:06:15,666 --> 00:06:19,200 but what President Trump called this weekend a last warning, 56 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:24,200 a new cease-fire offer for Hamas to release all Israeli hostages, including living and dead, 57 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:29,800 and then negotiate an end of the war during a 60-day cease-fire. Israel's in support. 58 00:06:31,700 --> 00:06:34,700 The Hamas official tonight called it a -- quote -- "shameful surrender," suggesting 59 00:06:34,700 --> 00:06:39,700 the war will go on and Israel will proceed with its threat to take over Gaza City. 60 00:06:40,866 --> 00:06:45,533 For the "PBS News Hour," I'm Nick Schifrin. 61 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:58,233 AMNA NAWAZ: In the day's other headlines: House Democrats released a letter today that Donald 62 00:06:58,233 --> 00:07:03,233 Trump allegedly sent to Jeffrey Epstein for a 2003 birthday book for the later convicted 63 00:07:05,566 --> 00:07:09,400 sex offender. The Epstein estate provided the letter to lawmakers, which they posted online. 64 00:07:11,500 --> 00:07:14,733 It depicts a woman's body with the name "Donald" signed at the bottom. Deputy White House Chief 65 00:07:16,733 --> 00:07:19,666 of Staff Taylor Budowich responded online that that is not the president's signature. 66 00:07:19,666 --> 00:07:24,233 Trump himself has previously denied writing any such letter and filed a 67 00:07:24,233 --> 00:07:29,233 $10 billion lawsuit against The Wall Street Journal for defamation, saying the letter is fake. 68 00:07:30,700 --> 00:07:33,033 The posting of the letter today comes amid a bipartisan push in 69 00:07:33,033 --> 00:07:37,900 Congress for the release of further files on Epstein, who killed himself in prison in 70 00:07:37,900 --> 00:07:42,900 2019 while awaiting trial. The president has not been accused of any misconduct. 71 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:48,633 The Trump administration is asking the Supreme Court to keep nearly $5 billion 72 00:07:48,633 --> 00:07:52,933 in foreign aid frozen. Today's emergency application comes after 73 00:07:52,933 --> 00:07:57,666 President Trump last month used a rare maneuver called a pocket rescission to 74 00:07:57,666 --> 00:08:02,300 essentially bypass Congress in holding up the funds. Last week, U.S. District Judge 75 00:08:02,300 --> 00:08:07,300 Ali Amir found that action was likely illegal and ordered the administration's to spend the money. 76 00:08:08,733 --> 00:08:11,900 In today's filing, Solicitor General D. John Sauer said 77 00:08:11,900 --> 00:08:16,900 that ruling -- quote -- "raises a grave and urgent threat to the separation of powers." 78 00:08:19,100 --> 00:08:22,833 A federal appeals court upheld a ruling today that ordered President Trump to pay $83 million 79 00:08:25,133 --> 00:08:29,233 to writer E. Jean Carroll for defaming her. The three-judge panel in New York was unanimous in 80 00:08:31,300 --> 00:08:34,733 rejecting Trump's argument that he deserved presidential immunity from Carroll's lawsuit. 81 00:08:36,566 --> 00:08:39,100 The case stems from Trump's repeated social media attacks against Carroll 82 00:08:39,100 --> 00:08:44,100 after she accused him of sexual assault in a Bergdorf Goodman dressing room back in 1996. 83 00:08:45,833 --> 00:08:49,100 The president has also been found liable for sexually abusing Carroll 84 00:08:49,100 --> 00:08:54,100 in a separate trial that was also upheld on appeal late last year. 85 00:08:55,600 --> 00:08:57,833 The prime minister of France lost a confidence vote today, 86 00:08:57,833 --> 00:09:02,833 toppling his minority government and deepening a political crisis for a major U.S. ally. 87 00:09:07,500 --> 00:09:12,500 Lawmakers overwhelmingly ousted Francois Bayrou after just nine months in office. 88 00:09:14,833 --> 00:09:18,100 The centrist had faced backlash for his plans to tackle the nation's ballooning national debt. 89 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:23,300 In Paris, residents say they are worried about the future. 90 00:09:25,466 --> 00:09:26,733 CATHERINE, Paris Resident (through translator): When you listened to the 91 00:09:26,733 --> 00:09:29,266 party leaders talk about it, it was predictable, 92 00:09:29,266 --> 00:09:34,200 now his resignation. Who to replace him? Everything is going to hell in France. 93 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,733 AMNA NAWAZ: Bayrou is expected to hand in his resignation to President Emmanuel 94 00:09:37,733 --> 00:09:41,600 Macron tomorrow. The French leader has vowed to name a replacement in 95 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:46,600 the coming days. Macron will be seeking a fourth prime minister in just a year as he 96 00:09:48,366 --> 00:09:51,733 seeks to find stability and support in a fractured political landscape. 97 00:09:51,733 --> 00:09:55,900 In Ukraine today, officials called Russia's massive aerial attack this 98 00:09:55,900 --> 00:10:00,900 weekend a -- quote -- "clear signal that Russia does not want peace." Prime Minister Yulia 99 00:10:02,666 --> 00:10:05,833 Svyrydenko says Russia is mocking diplomatic efforts. This comes as 100 00:10:05,833 --> 00:10:10,833 Ukraine released images of around 60 foreign diplomats visiting damaged offices in Kyiv. 101 00:10:12,733 --> 00:10:16,900 This was the first time Ukraine's main government building was hit in the war. 102 00:10:21,333 --> 00:10:25,033 The attack was the largest since Russia's full-scale invasion more 103 00:10:25,033 --> 00:10:30,033 than three years ago. At least four people were killed. Meanwhile, in Washington today, 104 00:10:32,166 --> 00:10:35,066 European and U.S. officials met to discuss possible new sanctions on Russia. If approved, 105 00:10:37,166 --> 00:10:40,666 they'd be the first coordinated measures against Russia since Trump returned to office. 106 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,433 In Nepal, police opened fire on protesters today, killing at least 17 people. 107 00:10:51,533 --> 00:10:56,266 Tens of thousands were demonstrating against a government ban on social media platforms 108 00:10:56,266 --> 00:11:01,233 like Facebook and YouTube that took effect last week. The unrest escalated quickly, 109 00:11:03,066 --> 00:11:06,233 with protesters hurling rocks and police using water cannons on the crowds. 110 00:11:06,233 --> 00:11:09,500 Officials say some 145 people were wounded, 111 00:11:09,500 --> 00:11:14,500 including 28 police officers. Protesters say the ban violates their rights. 112 00:11:16,166 --> 00:11:17,600 SAMUNDRA POKHAREL, Protester: It is against our freedom of speech, 113 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:20,600 and they want to control us just like a dictator. 114 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:24,000 AMNA NAWAZ: Authorities say the ban was enforced after social media companies 115 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,633 failed to register and submit to increased government oversight. Critics say such 116 00:11:28,633 --> 00:11:33,633 actions could be used to crack down on press freedoms and punish government opponents. 117 00:11:35,700 --> 00:11:38,700 Back in this country, the family of media mogul Rupert Murdoch has settled a long-running 118 00:11:38,700 --> 00:11:43,700 dispute over control of his empire. Murdoch's son Lachlan will take over assets, including FOX News, 119 00:11:45,766 --> 00:11:49,766 The Wall Street Journal, and others, for years to come. Under the terms of the deal, 120 00:11:49,766 --> 00:11:54,733 as first reported by The New York Times, Lachlan's three eldest siblings will each get $1.1 billion. 121 00:11:56,966 --> 00:12:01,400 The deal puts to rest years of legal wrangling over the financial and political future of the 122 00:12:03,166 --> 00:12:05,833 media company, which has long espoused conservative viewpoints. The board of 123 00:12:05,833 --> 00:12:10,300 News Corp put out a statement saying it - - quote -- "welcomes these developers." 124 00:12:10,300 --> 00:12:14,000 On Wall Street today, stocks inched higher to start the week. The Dow 125 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:18,400 Jones industrial average added more than 100 points. The Nasdaq also rose nearly 126 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:23,400 100 points on the day. The S&P 500 closed just below its all-time high. 127 00:12:25,466 --> 00:12:29,000 And Rick Davies has died. As a founding member of the British rock group Supertramp, 128 00:12:30,966 --> 00:12:34,733 he was the voice and piano player behind some of the band's most iconic songs. 129 00:12:34,733 --> 00:12:39,733 (MUSIC) 130 00:12:43,100 --> 00:12:48,100 AMNA NAWAZ: In hits like "Goodbye Stranger," Davies mixed a wispy falsetto with a snarling baritone 131 00:12:50,333 --> 00:12:54,100 all powered by his signature Wurlitzer piano. Alongside co-founder and vocalist Roger Hodgson, 132 00:12:56,266 --> 00:13:00,466 Davies helped anchor many other hits, like "Take the Long Way Home" and "Give a Little Bit." 133 00:13:02,466 --> 00:13:05,733 Rick Davies died this weekend in New York after a long battle with multiple myeloma, 134 00:13:05,733 --> 00:13:09,200 a form of blood cancer. He was 81 years old. 135 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:14,200 Still to come on the "News Hour": the Supreme Court rules sweeping immigration raids can 136 00:13:16,500 --> 00:13:19,933 continue in Los Angeles; Florida pushes ahead on its plan to end some vaccine mandates for schools; 137 00:13:22,133 --> 00:13:26,600 and Tamara Keith and Amy Walter break down the latest political headlines. 138 00:13:43,433 --> 00:13:46,533 GEOFF BENNETT: The U.S. Supreme Court ruled today that sweeping immigration 139 00:13:46,533 --> 00:13:50,800 raids in California can continue, lifting a lower court ruling that 140 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:55,366 barred arrests without suspicion by Immigration and Customs Enforcement. 141 00:13:55,366 --> 00:14:00,400 It follows a raid on Friday at a car manufacturing plant in Georgia that led to nearly 500 arrests. 142 00:14:01,700 --> 00:14:03,900 AMNA NAWAZ: That raid by ICE at a Hyundai facility 143 00:14:03,900 --> 00:14:08,700 in Georgia marked the largest single site raid this country has ever seen. 144 00:14:08,700 --> 00:14:11,666 Let's start there with Jasmine Garsd of NPR. 145 00:14:11,666 --> 00:14:13,000 Great to see you. Thanks for being here. 146 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,866 JASMINE GARSD, NPR: Thank you for having me. 147 00:14:14,866 --> 00:14:16,766 AMNA NAWAZ: So let's start with that Georgia raid. What do we know about 148 00:14:16,766 --> 00:14:20,766 who was taken into custody in that raid and what their legal status is? 149 00:14:20,766 --> 00:14:25,766 JASMINE GARSD: Absolutely. So we know it is close to 500 workers, most of them South Korean. DHS officials have said that 150 00:14:32,066 --> 00:14:37,066 it's a mixed bag when it comes to their status. Some people crossed the border illegally, other 151 00:14:39,333 --> 00:14:42,666 people overstayed visas. Other people had visas that didn't allow them to work legally in the U.S. 152 00:14:45,500 --> 00:14:49,733 And we know that there have been discussions with the South Korean government for about 153 00:14:50,933 --> 00:14:53,900 300 of the workers to be chartered back. 154 00:14:53,900 --> 00:14:57,266 AMNA NAWAZ: We did ask DHS about the raid. They said in a statement to us that they're 155 00:14:57,266 --> 00:15:01,100 looking into allegations of what they said are unlawful employment practices. 156 00:15:01,100 --> 00:15:04,800 They also said, in part: "The operation underscores our commitment to protecting 157 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:09,733 jobs for Georgians, ensuring a level playing field for businesses that comply with the law, 158 00:15:09,733 --> 00:15:14,233 safeguarding the integrity of our economy, and protecting workers from exploitation." 159 00:15:14,233 --> 00:15:19,233 So, Jasmine, say a little bit more about what laws specifically they're saying were broken here. 160 00:15:20,066 --> 00:15:22,233 JASMINE GARSD: Absolutely. 161 00:15:22,233 --> 00:15:24,833 I mean, they're saying that this is about working without legal papers, without authorization to 162 00:15:27,100 --> 00:15:30,266 work. And what I think is really interesting is, this is where President Donald Trump -- there's 163 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:36,100 these two competing movements for him, right? On the one hand, he is trying very hard to get 164 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:43,066 foreign investment into the U.S. He has been working on this relationship with South Korea. 165 00:15:44,866 --> 00:15:47,600 And on the other hand, he has this agenda of mass 166 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:51,166 deportation. And this is kind of where the two are colliding. 167 00:15:51,166 --> 00:15:55,900 AMNA NAWAZ: But it's worth pointing out raids like this, large-scale workplace raids, 168 00:15:55,900 --> 00:15:59,333 are not as common under the Trump administration. It's not a big part 169 00:15:59,333 --> 00:16:03,733 of the agenda. Does this mean we're going to see more of these or is this an outlier? 170 00:16:03,733 --> 00:16:07,333 JASMINE GARSD: I mean, it's very interesting to me that this happened in Georgia, in a red 171 00:16:07,333 --> 00:16:12,333 state. There was, the same day that this happened, another raid in Upstate New York at a food plant 172 00:16:14,633 --> 00:16:19,633 where some 40 workers were also arrested. That got overshadowed by what happened in Georgia. 173 00:16:21,700 --> 00:16:26,200 You're right. We haven't seen it. The Trump administration has said that they want to 174 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,533 go after employers who employ undocumented or unauthorized labor, but this is really the first 175 00:16:33,633 --> 00:16:37,800 time we see that under the Trump administration. We will have to see if it's a pattern. 176 00:16:39,866 --> 00:16:41,766 AMNA NAWAZ: I want to ask you too about some of the reporting you have been doing on the 177 00:16:41,766 --> 00:16:46,066 ground in Florida about the so-called Alligator Alcatraz ICE detention center 178 00:16:46,066 --> 00:16:50,066 there. We know a judge had ordered that it be shut down because environmental groups 179 00:16:50,066 --> 00:16:53,500 were suing. That was then overturned, so they're still allowed to operate. 180 00:16:53,500 --> 00:16:57,333 What did you find in your reporting about what's going on inside that facility? 181 00:16:57,333 --> 00:16:59,666 JASMINE GARSD: Absolutely horrific conditions. 182 00:16:59,666 --> 00:17:04,666 I spoke to lawyers. I spoke to family members of people who were detained in 183 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:10,433 there. I even physically went to the outsides. You can't go in, but the outsides of Alligator 184 00:17:12,500 --> 00:17:16,266 Alcatraz. And just being out there, I was at a protest where almost immediately one protester 185 00:17:18,633 --> 00:17:23,633 passed out from the heat. I was out for 15 minutes and I was just drenched in sweat. 186 00:17:25,700 --> 00:17:28,300 And I'm telling you that because I have been talking to lawyers and family members who are 187 00:17:28,300 --> 00:17:33,300 talking about electricity going in and out, and so not enough air conditioning, 188 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,500 a lack of water, water having to be brought in, widespread vermin, infectious disease. 189 00:17:43,033 --> 00:17:48,033 Lawyers throughout this process have talked to me about infectious diseases like skin 190 00:17:49,933 --> 00:17:53,700 diseases and respiratory diseases that really breed in that kind of environment. 191 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:58,000 AMNA NAWAZ: We know that stays open for now, but that court process continues to unfold. 192 00:17:58,000 --> 00:18:00,933 Meanwhile, there's news today from the Supreme Court I have to ask you about, 193 00:18:00,933 --> 00:18:03,500 which was the lifting of restrictions on ICE 194 00:18:03,500 --> 00:18:07,900 agents carrying out raids in Los Angeles. What kind of impact is that going to have? 195 00:18:07,900 --> 00:18:12,900 JASMINE GARSD: I mean, listen, what we're seeing is these quotas, right? It's been said that the 196 00:18:15,033 --> 00:18:20,033 government is aiming for 3,000 daily arrests, a million deportations in the first year. 197 00:18:22,433 --> 00:18:26,600 And the numbers we're seeing in detention right now, it consistently hovers around 70 percent of 198 00:18:30,533 --> 00:18:35,100 immigrants in immigration detention right now have no criminal conviction. 199 00:18:36,900 --> 00:18:40,233 And so the question is, how are these people being selected? How are they 200 00:18:40,233 --> 00:18:45,233 being picked up? And there are so many accusations that it's racial profiling. 201 00:18:47,900 --> 00:18:52,900 I think we're going to have to keep seeing what happens here on the ground, but, again, 202 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,466 70 percent of people in detention, in immigration detention, do not have a criminal conviction. 203 00:19:01,500 --> 00:19:02,933 AMNA NAWAZ: That's a striking number. I know you will continue to report on this. 204 00:19:02,933 --> 00:19:05,566 Jasmine Garsd of NPR, thank you so much. 205 00:19:05,566 --> 00:19:07,966 JASMINE GARSD: Thanks for having me. 206 00:19:07,966 --> 00:19:11,333 GEOFF BENNETT: Now, for a legal perspective on those new developments regarding President Trump's 207 00:19:11,333 --> 00:19:16,333 immigration agenda, we turn to William Banks, professor emeritus of law at Syracuse University. 208 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,500 Thank you for being with us. 209 00:19:19,500 --> 00:19:22,800 And, as we have reported, the Supreme Court today lifted restrictions on immigration stops 210 00:19:22,800 --> 00:19:27,800 in the Los Angeles area, at least while this case plays out in the appeals court. 211 00:19:29,500 --> 00:19:32,000 Lower court rulings found evidence that the raids swept up people 212 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:37,000 simply for looking Latino or for speaking Spanish, raising Fourth Amendment concerns. 213 00:19:38,466 --> 00:19:41,033 How should we understand the court's ruling in light of that? 214 00:19:41,033 --> 00:19:43,200 WILLIAM BANKS, Professor Emeritus, Syracuse University College of Law: The most important 215 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:47,133 thing to understand about what the Supreme Court has done today is that it's only temporary. 216 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:53,066 They paused the lower courts while a hearing on the merit can be held. So whether the ICE 217 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:03,000 immigration stops are based on a proven or unproven assertion of focusing on ethnicity 218 00:20:08,233 --> 00:20:13,233 or race has to be determined finally after there's been evidence submitted on a record. 219 00:20:15,466 --> 00:20:19,866 So all the Supreme Court did today is that they're allowing the government to go forward with their 220 00:20:21,966 --> 00:20:25,533 immigration enforcement methods as they propose them at least while the litigation is pending. 221 00:20:28,300 --> 00:20:33,300 This case is by far, far from any means over. There'll be arguments on the merits about the 222 00:20:35,433 --> 00:20:39,633 Fourth Amendment, about the due process clause and perhaps even about the First Amendment. 223 00:20:40,766 --> 00:20:42,733 GEOFF BENNETT: Well, on that point, 224 00:20:42,733 --> 00:20:46,266 how do immigration stops based on race, language or appearance square with the 225 00:20:48,100 --> 00:20:51,600 Fourth Amendment protection against unreasonable search and seizure? 226 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:55,066 WILLIAM BANKS: Justice Kavanaugh is the only justice to write a 227 00:20:55,066 --> 00:20:59,600 concurring opinion from among those in the majority today. It was 6-3. 228 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,466 And Justice Kavanaugh said that his view was that the potential for ethnicity or race to 229 00:21:07,900 --> 00:21:12,900 be a factor in the immigration enforcement was one factor among many. And if it's one 230 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:20,200 factor among many that the government used to detain or stop or question an individual, 231 00:21:22,300 --> 00:21:27,300 that's not sufficient cause to enjoin or stop that aspect of the practice. 232 00:21:29,433 --> 00:21:34,433 It's one among many. So, often in policing, members of the law enforcement may utilize 233 00:21:37,333 --> 00:21:42,333 various individual characteristics like race or ethnicity or gender or anything, 234 00:21:45,533 --> 00:21:50,500 lifestyle, physical appearance, to question briefly someone on the street, 235 00:21:52,566 --> 00:21:57,533 so long as it doesn't effectuate an arrest, that person's liberty has not been taken, 236 00:21:59,333 --> 00:22:03,533 and the inconvenience of a temporary stop or a temporary detention, 237 00:22:05,933 --> 00:22:10,433 said Justice Kavanaugh anyway, should not stand in the way of the government going about its mission. 238 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:14,566 GEOFF BENNETT: Meantime, the Trump administration said today 239 00:22:14,566 --> 00:22:19,100 it started an immigration crackdown in Chicago. The governor of Illinois, 240 00:22:19,100 --> 00:22:23,833 J.B. Pritzker, the mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson, are pushing back. 241 00:22:23,833 --> 00:22:26,400 Does the president have the authority to send in 242 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:31,400 federal agents over the objections of state and local leaders in this case? 243 00:22:33,700 --> 00:22:36,400 WILLIAM BANKS: The president has the authority to send in civilians into the state of Illinois or 244 00:22:38,800 --> 00:22:42,033 city of Chicago, those that are working for ICE or some other civilian agency in the U.S. government, 245 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:49,000 but he doesn't likely have the authority to deploy the National Guard there. 246 00:22:50,966 --> 00:22:54,200 The reason for that is a fundamental one in our system, that National Guard forces 247 00:22:56,033 --> 00:22:59,700 are in their default posture subject to command of the state governor, 248 00:23:01,833 --> 00:23:05,633 not the president of the United States. The president can only utilize the National Guard 249 00:23:07,766 --> 00:23:10,833 for a federal operation if the state governor agrees -- and, in this case, as you point out, 250 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:16,733 he has not -- or if the president thinks that circumstances are truly extraordinary, 251 00:23:18,900 --> 00:23:23,400 he can invoke something called the Insurrection Act to federalize the incident altogether. 252 00:23:25,233 --> 00:23:28,933 That would be a very extreme step, one that hasn't been taken in the United 253 00:23:28,933 --> 00:23:33,933 States since 1992 and that's been taken only a few times in our collective history. 254 00:23:36,166 --> 00:23:40,233 GEOFF BENNETT: And Chicago, as you well know, has declared itself a sanctuary city. How much 255 00:23:40,233 --> 00:23:45,233 power do local officials actually have to resist or limit federal law enforcement? 256 00:23:47,433 --> 00:23:51,300 WILLIAM BANKS: Local officials, state officials have considerable leverage in this regard. 257 00:23:53,766 --> 00:23:56,500 There's a concept that is taught in constitutional law in law schools everywhere that holds that the 258 00:24:01,900 --> 00:24:06,900 federal government may not commandeer state resources into service of a federal program. 259 00:24:08,933 --> 00:24:13,333 In other words, President Trump or any president is free to send 260 00:24:13,333 --> 00:24:18,333 federal resources to do a federal job, to fulfill a federal mission inside a state, 261 00:24:20,266 --> 00:24:24,900 but they can't compel the state to provide assistance, to provide personnel, 262 00:24:26,733 --> 00:24:29,966 to provide whatever other resources the federal government might need. 263 00:24:29,966 --> 00:24:33,733 GEOFF BENNETT: William Banks, professor emeritus of law at Syracuse University, 264 00:24:33,733 --> 00:24:35,333 thanks again for your time this evening, sir. 265 00:24:35,333 --> 00:24:40,333 WILLIAM BANKS: Thank you. It was good to be with you. 266 00:24:50,833 --> 00:24:53,333 GEOFF BENNETT: Now a look at a five-decade-long project to 267 00:24:53,333 --> 00:24:58,333 protect puffins. Atlantic puffins still face a precarious foothold. That's due in part to 268 00:25:00,333 --> 00:25:03,433 a loss of habitat and to troubles tied to warming ocean waters and climate change. 269 00:25:03,433 --> 00:25:07,100 But one longstanding effort off the coast of Maine continues to 270 00:25:07,100 --> 00:25:12,100 provide a crucial nesting habitat for these seabirds and a place for them to thrive. 271 00:25:14,366 --> 00:25:17,400 Science correspondent Miles O'Brien traveled to the only colony of Atlantic puffins in the U.S., 272 00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:20,633 part of our Tipping Point series on climate change. 273 00:25:22,133 --> 00:25:26,266 MILES O'BRIEN: It was billed as a three-hour tour, really. 274 00:25:28,100 --> 00:25:32,100 OK, so Gilligan, Skipper, Professor? No, you're professor, Professor. 275 00:25:32,666 --> 00:25:34,733 (LAUGHTER) 276 00:25:34,733 --> 00:25:38,900 MILES O'BRIEN: That's Don Lyons, head of the Audubon Seabird Institute. Fortunately, 277 00:25:40,833 --> 00:25:44,333 on this day, the weather didn't start getting rough. The tiny ship wasn't tossed. 278 00:25:46,033 --> 00:25:47,633 STEVE KRESS, Audubon Seabird Institute: It isn't always like this. 279 00:25:47,633 --> 00:25:49,400 MILES O'BRIEN: Yes, I imagine. I think we lucked out, right? 280 00:25:51,166 --> 00:25:53,833 MILES O'BRIEN: We were joined by Steve Kress, a living legend in the 281 00:25:53,833 --> 00:25:58,833 world of seabirds. His claim to fame? The destination off our bow, Eastern Egg Rock, 282 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:05,866 six miles southeast of New Harbor, Maine. It's the summer nesting perch for a thriving, 283 00:26:07,900 --> 00:26:12,266 curated colony of Atlantic puffins in all their colorful, charismatic, quirky glory. 284 00:26:14,400 --> 00:26:19,400 It's a barren speck of good news for some bird species that are struggling to survive in a fast, 285 00:26:21,366 --> 00:26:25,700 warming ocean. Getting to this place is a lot easier for the birds than for us. 286 00:26:26,566 --> 00:26:28,466 OK, so what's the strategy? 287 00:26:28,466 --> 00:26:30,600 DON LYONS, Audubon Seabird Institute: OK, so you will sit on the tube. 288 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,933 MILES O'BRIEN: The fact that all of us were here is thanks to then-23-year-old Steve 289 00:26:36,966 --> 00:26:40,466 Kress' vision back in the 1970s. He had read that puffins thrived here, but then vanished 290 00:26:42,433 --> 00:26:46,666 in the late 19th century, unmercifully hunted to extirpation, locally extinct. 291 00:26:48,766 --> 00:26:52,933 STEVE KRESS: People caused them to leave. Maybe people can help bring them back. That 292 00:26:52,933 --> 00:26:57,933 was the notion. I had no idea that that notion was going to be my life's work. 293 00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:01,466 MILES O'BRIEN: It had never been done before, 294 00:27:01,466 --> 00:27:06,266 and the experts ranged from skeptical to hostile. Unburdened by conventional wisdom, 295 00:27:08,300 --> 00:27:13,300 he and his young idealistic team wrote their puffin playbook on the fly. 296 00:27:15,100 --> 00:27:19,233 In 1973, they began transferring chicks from Newfoundland's abundant colonies 297 00:27:20,900 --> 00:27:25,300 into these sod burrows, cozy homes for the month it took them to fledge. 298 00:27:27,100 --> 00:27:29,200 STEVE KRESS: And during that month our hope was that they were learning that 299 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:33,500 Egg Rock was their home, and they would come back here someday rather than going 300 00:27:33,500 --> 00:27:36,033 back to Newfoundland, where they were collected. 301 00:27:36,033 --> 00:27:40,000 MILES O'BRIEN: To further entice them, they deployed decoys, mirrors, 302 00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:45,000 and amplified recordings of puffins. It still took four years for the first adult 303 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,333 puffin to return and another four years before nesting pairs began breeding here. 304 00:27:52,233 --> 00:27:56,900 Fifty years later, hundreds of puffins take a summer break from life at sea to 305 00:27:58,933 --> 00:28:01,933 mate and rear their chicks on Eastern Egg. No longer any need for Canadian imports. 306 00:28:04,300 --> 00:28:09,300 I sat in a blind with Steve and Don, a front-row seat to a spectacular 307 00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,600 performance as puffin parents arrived with beaks full of fish for their hungry chicks. 308 00:28:16,700 --> 00:28:20,733 But each delivery came with risk. With every landing, they had to dodge their nemeses, 309 00:28:22,966 --> 00:28:26,433 the ever watchful laughing gulls, eager to snatch their catch before it reached the nest. 310 00:28:28,866 --> 00:28:31,600 STEVE KRESS: It just passed that rock with all the puffins on it. 311 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:35,500 DON LYONS: Very likely has a chicken and burrow right here in front of us somewhere. 312 00:28:35,500 --> 00:28:37,500 MILES O'BRIEN: It seemed like a picture-perfect 313 00:28:37,500 --> 00:28:42,200 moment. But Don and Steve said it was actually epic. 314 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:43,700 DON LYONS: This is unbelievable. 315 00:28:43,700 --> 00:28:45,900 MILES O'BRIEN: I did not expect this. I didn't expect it. 316 00:28:45,900 --> 00:28:48,066 STEVE KRESS: This is really an unusual day. Look at them all. 317 00:28:48,066 --> 00:28:50,833 I have never seen so many puffins on this island. 318 00:28:50,833 --> 00:28:53,000 MILES O'BRIEN: Wow. 319 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,666 Better to be lucky than good, but diligence is the mother of good luck. And the birds 320 00:28:58,366 --> 00:29:02,233 most assuredly would not be here without the annual arrival of the 321 00:29:02,233 --> 00:29:07,233 puffin police headquartered at the Egg Rock Hilton, zero stars on Tripadvisor. 322 00:29:09,500 --> 00:29:14,500 Each year, young aspiring ornithologists and ecologists come here loaded for gull, 323 00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:20,733 hoping to ensure the puffins get the last laugh. This year, they were led by Alison Ballard. 324 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,866 ALISON BALLARD, Audubon Seabird Institute: The initial idea was that one day, 325 00:29:24,866 --> 00:29:29,866 puffins would be able to live on this island without the need of human interaction. However, 326 00:29:31,366 --> 00:29:33,966 over time, that has been shown to not necessarily be the case. 327 00:29:33,966 --> 00:29:38,966 MILES O'BRIEN: Common terns offer another layer of defense. Uncommonly aggressive to 328 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,666 any intruder, including us, they are the bodyguards of the puffin colony. 329 00:29:46,166 --> 00:29:48,466 STEVE KRESS: I was hoping that the terns alone would be enough 330 00:29:48,466 --> 00:29:53,466 to protect the puffins. Now we know that the terns alone aren't enough to 331 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:58,533 protect the puffins. The terns and the puffins need our help. 332 00:29:58,533 --> 00:30:02,000 Take away the people, and we lose these species. 333 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:06,200 We are the cause of the problem. We need to be the cause of the solution. 334 00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,866 MILES O'BRIEN: The solutions Kress and the Audubon team 335 00:30:08,866 --> 00:30:12,300 have pioneered have drawn international attention. 336 00:30:12,300 --> 00:30:16,633 STEVE KRESS: Somehow, this idea left Maine and it has been used 337 00:30:16,633 --> 00:30:21,233 around the world now. It has legs of its own, because it's a good idea. 338 00:30:21,233 --> 00:30:25,333 MILES O'BRIEN: Demand for the tools of the trade has prompted them to build a 339 00:30:25,333 --> 00:30:30,333 robust decoy production facility. They export 48 different painted plastic 340 00:30:32,300 --> 00:30:36,100 species worldwide and have inspired 800 seabird restoration projects globally. 341 00:30:38,133 --> 00:30:40,833 SUSAN SCHUBEL, Audubon Seabird Institute: So this is a northern gannet. Last winter, 342 00:30:40,833 --> 00:30:44,733 we made 420 of these to send to Canada. 343 00:30:44,733 --> 00:30:46,966 MILES O'BRIEN: It's run by Susan Schubel, 344 00:30:46,966 --> 00:30:51,933 the outreach educator, although she prefers seabird celebrant. 345 00:30:54,033 --> 00:30:57,366 SUSAN SCHUBEL: We're providing a way to help communicate where are the good places. Where 346 00:30:59,666 --> 00:31:02,600 have we done the work to reduce the predators? We can't necessarily control where the fish are 347 00:31:04,466 --> 00:31:07,433 in the ocean, but we will do our best to keep the oceans clean and healthy. 348 00:31:07,433 --> 00:31:12,433 MILES O'BRIEN: But that, of course, is a hope against hope. Humans are relentlessly 349 00:31:14,100 --> 00:31:17,933 ruining the oceans, and seabird populations are heading off a cliff. 350 00:31:19,966 --> 00:31:23,366 DON LYONS: The estimates are maybe a 70 percent decline over the last 50, 60, 70 years. 351 00:31:25,100 --> 00:31:27,100 MILES O'BRIEN: Seventy percent? 352 00:31:27,100 --> 00:31:30,466 DON LYONS: Seventy percent, 7-0. That decline is really telling us the ocean 353 00:31:30,466 --> 00:31:35,466 is changing in ways that seabirds can't adapt to, at least not very quickly. 354 00:31:37,700 --> 00:31:41,233 MILES O'BRIEN: Warming ocean waters fueled by the climate crisis mean fish are on the move, 355 00:31:42,433 --> 00:31:45,466 migrating to their temperature sweet spot. 356 00:31:45,466 --> 00:31:48,566 Gemma Clucas of Cornell University is trying to 357 00:31:48,566 --> 00:31:53,533 understand how this is changing the diet of seabirds by analyzing their poop. 358 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,766 GEMMA CLUCAS, Cornell Lab of Ornithology: We can go out and collect poops relatively 359 00:31:57,766 --> 00:32:01,900 quickly from a colony of nesting seabirds, bring them back to the lab, 360 00:32:01,900 --> 00:32:06,400 and then what I do is I sequence the DNA in those fecal samples in order to 361 00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:10,833 see which fish or invertebrates the birds have been feeding on. Working 362 00:32:10,833 --> 00:32:14,400 MILES O'BRIEN: with the Shoals Marine Lab and the University of New Hampshire, 363 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:19,400 she visit's a common tern colony near Portsmouth wearing a plastic-coated wide brim hat. 364 00:32:21,500 --> 00:32:26,200 The aggressive birds eagerly pelt her with specimens, taking a turn as research assistants. 365 00:32:28,566 --> 00:32:33,533 In the lab, she is seeing genetic evidence of fewer cold water species, like Atlantic herring, 366 00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:39,533 and more butterfish, who like it warmer, but are not easy for puffin and tern chicks 367 00:32:41,466 --> 00:32:45,066 to swallow. It means parents must fly longer and farther to feed their young. 368 00:32:47,233 --> 00:32:50,033 GEMMA CLUCAS: We are seeing an impact of these changes on the breeding success of the birds. 369 00:32:50,033 --> 00:32:52,166 MILES O'BRIEN: So we always talk about the canary and 370 00:32:52,166 --> 00:32:55,200 the coal mine. Is it more the puffin on the rock? 371 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,766 (LAUGHTER) GEMMA CLUCAS: Yes, I think that's a good analogy. 372 00:32:57,766 --> 00:33:02,733 MILES O'BRIEN: The menu for a seabird chick is more than a meal. It's a diagnostic test for the 373 00:33:04,766 --> 00:33:09,000 ocean's health. And right now the prognosis is grim. But here in the Gulf of Maine, 374 00:33:11,666 --> 00:33:16,666 conservationists are listening to the warning signs and pushing back against the downward trend. 375 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:23,133 Puffins still have a foothold here, not by chance, but by design. 376 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:29,000 For the "PBS News Hour," I'm Miles O'Brien on Eastern Egg Rock, Maine. 377 00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,066 AMNA NAWAZ: Health officials in Florida released more details about how they're 378 00:33:44,066 --> 00:33:48,400 moving to end many school vaccination mandates. Public health experts are 379 00:33:48,400 --> 00:33:52,800 worried about the impact on children in the state and whether other states may follow. 380 00:33:52,800 --> 00:33:55,366 William Brangham has that story. 381 00:33:55,366 --> 00:33:59,466 WILLIAM BRANGHAM: Amna, yesterday's announcement came days after Florida's surgeon general, Dr. 382 00:33:59,466 --> 00:34:04,433 Joseph Ladapo, said the state would be the first to ban all vaccine requirements. This new policy 383 00:34:06,700 --> 00:34:10,900 for schoolchildren won't take effect for about 90 days, and it would end the requirement that kids 384 00:34:12,966 --> 00:34:16,666 are inoculated against diseases like hepatitis B, chicken pox, influenza, and meningitis. 385 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:22,633 The state legislature could take it further and consider removing 386 00:34:22,633 --> 00:34:27,633 requirements for measles and polio as well. In announcing the change last week, Dr. 387 00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,300 Ladapo spoke out against vaccine mandates, saying it was a matter of personal freedom. 388 00:34:35,366 --> 00:34:38,300 DR. JOSEPH LADAPO, Florida Surgeon General: Every last one of them is wrong and drips 389 00:34:38,300 --> 00:34:43,300 with disdain and slavery, OK? Who am I as a government or anyone else or who 390 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:52,600 am I as a man standing here now to tell you what you should put in your body? 391 00:34:53,933 --> 00:34:55,733 WILLIAM BRANGHAM: Doctors in Florida are warning 392 00:34:55,733 --> 00:34:59,666 this change could put children and their communities at risk. 393 00:34:59,666 --> 00:35:04,666 One of those is Dr. Mona Amin. She's a pediatrician in Florida and host of 394 00:35:06,933 --> 00:35:09,700 "PedsDoc" podcast. For the record, we invited Dr. Ladapo on the show, but he declined our request. 395 00:35:11,433 --> 00:35:14,066 Dr. Amin, thank you so much for being here. 396 00:35:14,066 --> 00:35:17,833 When you first heard the surgeon general's comments 397 00:35:17,833 --> 00:35:22,633 specifically linking vaccine mandates to slavery, what was your reaction? 398 00:35:22,633 --> 00:35:24,933 DR. MONA AMIN, Host, "PedsDocTalk": Oh, thank you for having me. 399 00:35:24,933 --> 00:35:29,933 The reaction was swift and feeling disheartening, 400 00:35:31,900 --> 00:35:34,866 demoralizing and frustrating. One, the comparison with vaccine mandates and slavery 401 00:35:34,866 --> 00:35:39,433 is not founded. Obviously, vaccine mandates are there for a reason, to protect people, 402 00:35:39,433 --> 00:35:43,900 when -- we can go into a whole other tangent on slavery -- was not the same situation. 403 00:35:43,900 --> 00:35:48,466 And as a pediatrician who spends so much time educating the public and my 404 00:35:48,466 --> 00:35:52,233 community about the importance of vaccine programs and vaccination, 405 00:35:52,233 --> 00:35:57,233 it was very disheartening to hear someone on a large public platform say that this 406 00:35:59,366 --> 00:36:02,233 is something that is not going to happen in our state at a time when we see measles outbreaks, 407 00:36:02,233 --> 00:36:06,466 at a time when we are seeing the rise of pertussis cases around the world. 408 00:36:06,466 --> 00:36:11,466 And so, as a mother myself, I felt concerned not only for my patients, but for other mothers who 409 00:36:13,766 --> 00:36:17,066 want to protect their children and are now hearing this reality may become true in 90 days or more. 410 00:36:18,933 --> 00:36:21,733 WILLIAM BRANGHAM: What are the public health implications here? Because, 411 00:36:21,733 --> 00:36:26,733 as I'm sure you have heard, there are many people who do believe that the mandates are 412 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,200 onerous. They may not themselves be anti-vaccine, but they think that the government telling you, 413 00:36:33,900 --> 00:36:37,433 you have to have it in order to go to school or go to work is too much. 414 00:36:37,433 --> 00:36:42,433 So what will be, in your view, the impact of this? 415 00:36:44,833 --> 00:36:47,433 DR. MONA AMIN: So we have to understand that, in public health, public health is looking out for 416 00:36:47,433 --> 00:36:52,433 exactly that, the public's health. So a lot of the policy here is looking out for the greater good. 417 00:36:54,666 --> 00:36:57,533 So an example here is that we can say, well, I'm going to drive and drink at the same time, 418 00:36:59,566 --> 00:37:02,233 right? So I'm going to get behind the wheel. It's my body, my choice, my car. Yet doing 419 00:37:02,233 --> 00:37:06,800 so is going to put other people on that road at risk. So there has to be guardrails here. 420 00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,466 Same thing for vaccine mandates. If we are going to be going into a public school 421 00:37:10,466 --> 00:37:15,333 system or even a private school system where children are in enclosed spaces, 422 00:37:15,333 --> 00:37:19,200 where respiratory viruses and bacteria can spread, the things that we prevent 423 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:23,500 with vaccine-preventable illnesses, we are putting each other at risk. 424 00:37:23,500 --> 00:37:27,833 So, the risk here is that we are going to bring home these illnesses to the 425 00:37:27,833 --> 00:37:32,800 unvaccinated children. And also remember that even children who are fully vaccinated, 426 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:37,800 vaccines are not 100 percent. So that small risk that they can get the virus or bacteria and, 427 00:37:40,066 --> 00:37:43,066 more importantly, that they can bring it home to newborns, immunocompromised family members, 428 00:37:44,533 --> 00:37:46,066 grandpa and grandma, who may have weaker immune systems. 429 00:37:46,066 --> 00:37:49,733 So we are going to see a trickle effect that not only impacts the 430 00:37:49,733 --> 00:37:54,000 children who are in the school system, but the teachers and the communities. That is 431 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:58,466 why public health measures are in place, that we could start to see more viruses, 432 00:37:58,466 --> 00:38:03,466 more bacteria and more hospitalizations and more of a public health crisis here. 433 00:38:05,566 --> 00:38:09,000 WILLIAM BRANGHAM: States do allow medical exemptions. Parents can sign these forms to say, 434 00:38:11,066 --> 00:38:14,266 I don't want my child vaccinated for these reasons. Other states offer religious exemptions. 435 00:38:16,333 --> 00:38:20,100 You do believe, though, that eliminating these mandates will lead to more outbreaks for sure? 436 00:38:23,333 --> 00:38:26,466 DR. MONA AMIN: There is a high likelihood. Of course, we cannot predict the future, 437 00:38:26,466 --> 00:38:29,600 but I would like to use the measles outbreak as an example. 438 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:34,133 So in order for there to be immunity in a community, there has to be 95 percent of 439 00:38:34,133 --> 00:38:38,533 the community has to be vaccinated or immune to measles. Now in Florida, 440 00:38:38,533 --> 00:38:43,533 the vaccination rate for kindergartners right now is under 90 percent, around 89 percent. 441 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:49,233 So, now if we remove these mandates, that could mean less people getting vaccinated. Right now, 442 00:38:51,133 --> 00:38:53,133 in the state of Florida for a child to enter a school system, they have to get 443 00:38:53,133 --> 00:38:57,500 vaccinated. I see those children come into my office and means a higher vaccine rate. 444 00:38:57,500 --> 00:39:01,333 But now, if we remove those mandates, those vaccine rates could reduce, 445 00:39:01,333 --> 00:39:06,333 which means a virus like measles can have a more likelihood of spread. So we are going to 446 00:39:08,466 --> 00:39:11,866 see this. The degree to which is hard to know, depending on the vaccine status in a community, 447 00:39:13,766 --> 00:39:17,333 but it is a high-risk situation that we want to avoid as much as possible. 448 00:39:17,333 --> 00:39:20,533 WILLIAM BRANGHAM: What do you do in your own practice? When a mother or a father 449 00:39:20,533 --> 00:39:23,100 with their children come to your office and say, 450 00:39:23,100 --> 00:39:28,100 I have heard these suspicions being cast about vaccines, how do you counsel them? 451 00:39:30,300 --> 00:39:32,700 DR. MONA AMIN: I think it's important to lead with curiosity. So I ask them where they got 452 00:39:32,700 --> 00:39:37,100 that information and what they feel about that information. And I guide with facts, 453 00:39:37,100 --> 00:39:40,066 what we see clinically and what we see by the evidence. 454 00:39:40,066 --> 00:39:44,800 And hopefully, with that, they can come around and understand the importance of vaccination, 455 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:49,333 I, as a pediatrician, vaccinate my own two children on schedule, and why I do that, 456 00:39:49,333 --> 00:39:54,066 and so that we can hopefully make this idea that the Florida surgeon general has not 457 00:39:54,066 --> 00:39:58,933 a reality by advocating for the importance of vaccination and calling our legislators, 458 00:39:58,933 --> 00:40:01,233 so that they know the importance as well. 459 00:40:01,233 --> 00:40:02,866 WILLIAM BRANGHAM: All right, Dr. Mona Amin, 460 00:40:02,866 --> 00:40:06,133 Florida pediatrician, thank you so much for being here. 461 00:40:06,133 --> 00:40:10,633 DR. MONA AMIN: Thank you for having me. 462 00:40:10,633 --> 00:40:15,633 AMNA NAWAZ: 463 00:40:18,133 --> 00:40:22,800 President Trump makes promises to religious voters, denies writing a letter to Jeffrey 464 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:27,200 Epstein, and has some members of his team wearing many different hats. 465 00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:30,400 It's time for Politics Monday with Amy Walter of The Cook Political 466 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,666 Report With Amy Walter and Tamara Keith of NPR. 467 00:40:33,666 --> 00:40:35,100 Great to see you both. 468 00:40:35,100 --> 00:40:37,466 TAMARA KEITH, National Public Radio: Good to be here. 469 00:40:37,466 --> 00:40:38,866 AMNA NAWAZ: So, as you both saw, President Trump was at the Museum of the Bible in Washington, 470 00:40:38,866 --> 00:40:41,066 D.C., earlier today. He announced upcoming action 471 00:40:41,066 --> 00:40:45,466 from the Department of Education to protect prayer in public schools. 472 00:40:45,466 --> 00:40:48,833 Tam, he was also talking about other actions his administration has taken 473 00:40:48,833 --> 00:40:51,366 investigating what he calls anti-Christian bias, 474 00:40:51,366 --> 00:40:56,333 pardoning anti-abortion rights activists. Why this message and why right now? 475 00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,100 TAMARA KEITH: He created this Religious Liberty Commission through executive 476 00:41:00,100 --> 00:41:04,466 action earlier this year, and this is a regularly scheduled meeting. 477 00:41:04,466 --> 00:41:09,466 They have more meetings coming up of this commission, which includes a wide range 478 00:41:11,366 --> 00:41:14,733 of mostly Christian people, pastors, as well as administration officials. 479 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:21,866 And this is part of keeping the promises he made when he was campaigning. Evangelical Christians, 480 00:41:23,933 --> 00:41:28,266 white evangelicals are very important to his base. They are very important to how he got 481 00:41:30,633 --> 00:41:33,466 elected. He said he wants more prayer in school. He made a lot of promises when he was campaigning. 482 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:41,400 And, I mean, we have seen this with any number of issues that he campaigned on. He is checking 483 00:41:43,866 --> 00:41:46,600 the boxes. He is going down the list. He is going through and trying to deliver on promises he made 484 00:41:48,766 --> 00:41:52,733 to key constituencies, which now the midterms are a little bit more than a year away, and you 485 00:41:55,200 --> 00:41:58,500 want to keep those constituencies happy when there might be frustration with other things going on. 486 00:41:59,866 --> 00:42:01,500 AMNA NAWAZ: Amy, he's not a regular churchgoer, 487 00:42:01,500 --> 00:42:04,000 right? But, as Tam points out, this is a core part of his base. 488 00:42:04,833 --> 00:42:06,433 Is this just about making 489 00:42:06,433 --> 00:42:07,933 good on those promises? Is he shoring up weakening support? 490 00:42:07,933 --> 00:42:09,900 AMY WALTER: Yes, I do think that that's exactly right. 491 00:42:09,900 --> 00:42:13,500 It is checking a lot of the boxes and saying to folks who voted for him, see, 492 00:42:13,500 --> 00:42:17,100 I told you I was going to do these things and I'm delivering on it. 493 00:42:17,100 --> 00:42:21,433 What's interesting, though, as we go into the midterms, we know that getting your base behind 494 00:42:21,433 --> 00:42:25,733 you, really important, but you can't win without at least some independent voters. 495 00:42:25,733 --> 00:42:30,533 And there was a poll out this weekend from CBS News, and they asked a question this way, 496 00:42:30,533 --> 00:42:35,533 which is, do you agree or like the goals of Donald Trump or dislike what his goals are? 497 00:42:39,033 --> 00:42:44,033 And 90-some percent of Republicans said, love, love it. In other words, he's checked all the 498 00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,533 boxes. He's doing exactly what we wanted it to do. Obviously, Democrats overwhelmingly said, 499 00:42:49,533 --> 00:42:54,500 no, we don't like the goals, but only about 40 percent of independents agreed with the goals. 500 00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:00,833 And this gets to the central challenge as we go into this upcoming election, which is, 501 00:43:02,166 --> 00:43:05,500 when I talk to Republicans who believe that, yes, 502 00:43:05,500 --> 00:43:10,000 the president was elected in part on improving the economy, but also on a 503 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,233 lot of these cultural and social issues. And delivering on those cultural and social issues 504 00:43:14,233 --> 00:43:19,233 will be really important for Republicans to talk about as we go into the next election. 505 00:43:21,566 --> 00:43:24,433 However, it is also clear that concerns about the economy are a major drag. And it's also true that, 506 00:43:27,033 --> 00:43:32,033 even on some of the issues where he has put the most emphasis, immigration, for example, 507 00:43:33,900 --> 00:43:38,600 or even on crime, he's not getting the return on that from independent voters. 508 00:43:40,333 --> 00:43:42,133 AMNA NAWAZ: There has been an issue that splintered his base somewhat. 509 00:43:42,133 --> 00:43:44,933 That is the pressure to release more of the Jeffrey Epstein files, 510 00:43:44,933 --> 00:43:48,933 which his White House has not yet done. We saw just today House Democrats released this 511 00:43:48,933 --> 00:43:52,933 letter that President Trump has repeatedly denied even writing to Jeffrey Epstein. 512 00:43:52,933 --> 00:43:56,500 Does that kind of thing, the letter, his denials, does that matter to supporters? 513 00:43:56,500 --> 00:43:58,433 AMY WALTER: What's interesting is, 514 00:43:58,433 --> 00:44:02,733 I think the issue matters. I don't think his presence as a part of it, 515 00:44:04,866 --> 00:44:08,733 i.e., whether he knew Jeffrey Epstein, whether he wrote that letter or not, is as important. 516 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:14,833 I think the animating force of this issue is this idea of -- and many of 517 00:44:16,333 --> 00:44:19,033 his supporters feel this way - - that there is overall just 518 00:44:20,966 --> 00:44:24,666 an elite class of people who do bad things that are corrupt and get away with it, 519 00:44:26,733 --> 00:44:31,233 and that this was going to be an opportunity for Donald Trump to rip off that shield around them. 520 00:44:34,933 --> 00:44:38,133 And so even if you listen to somebody like Marjorie Taylor Greene, 521 00:44:38,133 --> 00:44:43,133 who has come out and said she wants to see this report, she has said repeatedly, 522 00:44:45,266 --> 00:44:48,300 I don't think Donald Trump has anything to do with any of this. This isn't about Donald Trump. 523 00:44:48,300 --> 00:44:52,600 So while Democrats may see that letter and say, ah, it implicates him. 524 00:44:54,433 --> 00:44:56,633 What somebody like Marjorie Taylor Greene or many supporters will say is, 525 00:44:56,633 --> 00:45:00,133 I'm not concerned about Donald Trump and what he did. I don't think he had anything to do with 526 00:45:00,133 --> 00:45:05,066 it. But I know there are a lot of famous people and influential people who need to be exposed. 527 00:45:06,533 --> 00:45:08,533 AMNA NAWAZ: Well, Tam, let's talk a little bit more about 528 00:45:08,533 --> 00:45:10,700 who the president has around him. You have been doing some great reporting, 529 00:45:10,700 --> 00:45:15,100 finding that there are more people taking on more roles. Tell us about that. 530 00:45:15,100 --> 00:45:19,100 TAMARA KEITH: Yes, there are at least a dozen administration officials wearing 531 00:45:19,100 --> 00:45:24,100 more than one hat. And what I mean, by that is they have two full-time jobs. 532 00:45:26,233 --> 00:45:29,300 These are not small jobs. These are at least two big jobs. And there are three administration 533 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,333 officials who have three jobs. That includes Secretary of State Marco Rubio, who is also the 534 00:45:36,566 --> 00:45:39,533 national security adviser and the archivist of the U.S. He just gave up his fourth job, which he had 535 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,233 had for several months, which was being the head of the U.S. Agency for International Development. 536 00:45:47,466 --> 00:45:50,433 He handed that off to Russell Vought, who is the budget director, but also the head of CFPB. 537 00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:56,733 In that particular case, it's very clear that Russell Vought is sort of the Grim Reaper of 538 00:45:59,033 --> 00:46:02,533 the administration's when it comes to agencies that the president and his party want to get 539 00:46:02,533 --> 00:46:07,533 rid of. And the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and USAID are both on the chopping block. 540 00:46:09,233 --> 00:46:11,200 AMNA NAWAZ: What does it say to you that there seem to be now fewer 541 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:14,700 people around the president because more of them are taking more jobs? 542 00:46:14,700 --> 00:46:19,700 TAMARA KEITH: And these people are loyal to President Trump in a way that his administration 543 00:46:22,100 --> 00:46:25,400 didn't always have loyalists in the first term. In the first term, he had to lean on a lot of former 544 00:46:27,500 --> 00:46:30,900 Bush administration officials. This time, these are loyalists. These are people that he trusts. 545 00:46:33,300 --> 00:46:36,100 And what one person told me is that Trump is used to running a family business where, if somebody is 546 00:46:38,233 --> 00:46:41,866 good and you trust them, you just give them more projects. And so this is President Trump running 547 00:46:43,933 --> 00:46:48,500 the U.S. government, which is a very different beast, as sort of like he ran his family business. 548 00:46:50,033 --> 00:46:52,066 AMNA NAWAZ: Well, let me ask, Amy, about one specific member 549 00:46:52,066 --> 00:46:54,800 of the team. That is Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. 550 00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,233 He took some tough questions on Capitol Hill from Democrats, yes, 551 00:46:58,233 --> 00:47:03,066 but also from several Republicans, notably the doctors in the Senate. 552 00:47:03,066 --> 00:47:05,233 AMY WALTER: Yes. AMNA NAWAZ: It's clear there's some frustration, 553 00:47:05,233 --> 00:47:08,800 though, here growing among the president's own party about Kennedy's policies. But this 554 00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:13,600 line some of them are trying to walk. We saw them really hold up the president, the work 555 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:18,533 that he did on Operation Warp Speed to get to a COVID vaccine, and still criticize Kennedy. 556 00:47:18,533 --> 00:47:20,433 AMY WALTER: Right. AMNA NAWAZ: How difficult is that line? 557 00:47:20,433 --> 00:47:22,400 AMY WALTER: Well, the president himself is sort of walking that line. 558 00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:27,400 When he was asked about the Florida decision on no vaccine mandates, 559 00:47:29,100 --> 00:47:32,000 he was like, I don't know if that's such a great idea. He has said, 560 00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:37,000 even in response to some of the things that the health secretary said, 561 00:47:39,100 --> 00:47:42,033 not all vaccines are bad, right? So he too is trying to have a very clear line there. 562 00:47:44,133 --> 00:47:48,200 It's also notable that a poll was leaked from the president's own pollster, Tony Fabrizio, 563 00:47:52,233 --> 00:47:56,133 where the poll memo, we don't have -- it really is just a poll memo. So it feels 564 00:47:56,133 --> 00:47:59,833 like one of those things that was meant to be leaked that went out to senators, 565 00:47:59,833 --> 00:48:04,833 especially Republican senators, saying a majority of Trump voters believe in vaccines. 566 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:10,600 And so, while they said don't mistake a lot of the frustration that many Republicans 567 00:48:12,933 --> 00:48:17,933 have about the COVID vaccine for a blanket disbelief in vaccines. 568 00:48:20,233 --> 00:48:25,233 Vaccines are still popular. So that is how the line is now being walked. 569 00:48:26,933 --> 00:48:28,766 AMNA NAWAZ: Tam, given all that, what does that mean for Republicans 570 00:48:28,766 --> 00:48:30,966 trying to create this wedge here between Kennedy and the president? 571 00:48:30,966 --> 00:48:35,033 TAMARA KEITH: So, yes, here's the thing. These Republicans had an opportunity to make Kennedy 572 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:41,000 not be the health and human services secretary. That is the advise-and-consent role of the Senate. 573 00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:47,866 And several of these senators had reservations, and they were reassured that Kennedy wouldn't 574 00:48:49,733 --> 00:48:53,433 do some of the very things that he is doing now. But he's in. And so the only 575 00:48:53,433 --> 00:48:58,433 way to get Kennedy out essentially is to get the president to fire him. So far, 576 00:49:00,533 --> 00:49:03,500 I don't think President Trump is anywhere close to that, in part because the MAHA, 577 00:49:03,500 --> 00:49:08,133 the Make America Healthy Again movement, was a big part of his base. 578 00:49:08,133 --> 00:49:11,333 It's part of how he won. And making America healthy again 579 00:49:11,333 --> 00:49:15,266 is another one of these promises that he wants to say he's keeping. 580 00:49:15,266 --> 00:49:17,600 AMNA NAWAZ: We will see that key report coming out very soon as well. 581 00:49:17,600 --> 00:49:20,533 Tamara Keith and Amy Walter, always great to see you. Thank you. 582 00:49:20,533 --> 00:49:24,300 AMY WALTER: You're welcome. 583 00:49:24,300 --> 00:49:29,300 TAMARA KEITH: You're welcome. 584 00:49:30,266 --> 00:49:33,333 GEOFF BENNETT: 585 00:49:33,333 --> 00:49:36,633 Three years after becoming the youngest number one player in history, 586 00:49:36,633 --> 00:49:41,433 Spain's Carlos Alcaraz has reclaimed the top spot, winning the U.S. Open in four 587 00:49:41,433 --> 00:49:46,233 sets over Italy's Jannik Sinner center and capturing his sixth Grand Slam title. 588 00:49:46,233 --> 00:49:51,233 On the women's side, Belarus' Aryna Sabalenka defeated American Amanda Anisimova, becoming 589 00:49:53,133 --> 00:49:55,733 the first woman since Serena Williams to win back-to-back singles titles at 590 00:49:55,733 --> 00:50:00,733 the U.S. Open. It's the second U.S. Open championship for both Alcaraz and Sabalenka. 591 00:50:02,500 --> 00:50:04,800 For more on these historic victories, we're joined now by Patrick McEnroe, 592 00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:09,433 former singles and doubles champion and a longtime commentator on all things tennis. 593 00:50:09,433 --> 00:50:11,266 It's great to see you. 594 00:50:11,266 --> 00:50:15,133 So, Carlos Alcaraz did not lose a single set in the tournament until Sunday. 595 00:50:16,866 --> 00:50:19,466 What impressed you most about his run and his performance yesterday? 596 00:50:19,466 --> 00:50:21,500 PATRICK MCENROE, Former Professional Tennis Player: You know, I think it 597 00:50:21,500 --> 00:50:24,533 was his focus and his attitude. Sometimes he can be a little up and down. He's such 598 00:50:24,533 --> 00:50:29,533 a creative player. He is a showman out there. He loves to put on a good show for the fans. 599 00:50:31,566 --> 00:50:34,833 But what most impressed me this year, Geoff, was that he seemed to be just dialed in right 600 00:50:36,866 --> 00:50:39,000 from the start. Sometimes, you see him lose a set or two early in the tournament, 601 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,333 when he just kind of loses a little bit of interest. That didn't happen this year. 602 00:50:42,333 --> 00:50:46,666 I think Jannik Sinner beating him at Wimbledon in the final there -- he had 603 00:50:46,666 --> 00:50:50,900 won it the last two years -- was a little bit of a wake-up call for Carlos. So he seemed to 604 00:50:50,900 --> 00:50:55,866 be incredibly focused. The serve was the best I have ever seen it in the championship match. And 605 00:50:58,166 --> 00:51:01,466 he was absolutely hitting his forehand at just incredible speeds throughout the entire match. 606 00:51:03,266 --> 00:51:06,300 And he set the tone early by going after Sinner. Sinner was able to, 607 00:51:06,300 --> 00:51:11,300 I thought, overpower him a little bit in that Wimbledon final. And Alcaraz came out with the 608 00:51:13,100 --> 00:51:16,233 mentality and the game plan on Sunday that he wasn't going to let that happen 609 00:51:16,233 --> 00:51:21,000 again. And it was a really impressive and dominant performance from Carlos. 610 00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:24,066 GEOFF BENNETT: Yes, it was an incredible championship match between Alcaraz and 611 00:51:24,066 --> 00:51:28,133 Sinner. How do you see their rivalry shaping the sport moving forward? 612 00:51:28,133 --> 00:51:31,266 PATRICK MCENROE: Well, it is incredible. The last two years, 613 00:51:31,266 --> 00:51:35,666 they have split all eight Majors. And it's been a long time since that's happened. A 614 00:51:35,666 --> 00:51:40,666 guy by the name of Roger Federer and Rafael Nadal did that. I think it was in 2006-2007. 615 00:51:42,700 --> 00:51:46,900 So what they're doing is really separating themselves from the pack right now. And it's 616 00:51:46,900 --> 00:51:51,233 going to be up to the other players. Maybe it's Americans Ben Shelton, Taylor Fritz, 617 00:51:51,233 --> 00:51:55,766 Alexander Zverev. Maybe there's a 15- or 16-year-old out there that's watching these 618 00:51:55,766 --> 00:51:59,866 guys and was going to say to himself, I got to start playing tennis like that. I got to 619 00:51:59,866 --> 00:52:04,466 start taking huge risks. I got to start being ultra-aggressive. I got to have lightning speed. 620 00:52:04,466 --> 00:52:09,333 Because, right now, they are clearly far and away the two best players in the world. And I 621 00:52:09,333 --> 00:52:14,333 think there's no reason that that's not going to continue. They both play great tennis on multiple 622 00:52:16,500 --> 00:52:19,800 surfaces, Sinner winning Wimbledon for the first time on grass. Sinner was one point away three 623 00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:24,800 times this year in Paris of winning that title against Alcaraz in what was really one of the 624 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:29,800 most epic matches I have ever seen, and Alcaraz able to come back and win that in five sets. 625 00:52:31,733 --> 00:52:34,633 Sinner gets him back at Wimbledon, and now Alcaraz wins it here. The next Major will 626 00:52:34,633 --> 00:52:39,400 be in January in Australia, and they will go in, the two of them, as heavy favorites again. 627 00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:42,466 GEOFF BENNETT: And on the women's side, Aryna Sabalenka came in after 628 00:52:42,466 --> 00:52:46,700 a tough Wimbledon loss to the American and then beat her to defend her U.S. 629 00:52:46,700 --> 00:52:51,200 Open title. What set out to you about her resilience and her path to victory? 630 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,733 PATRICK MCENROE: Well, not only did she come back from a tough Wimbledon loss. She lost in 631 00:52:54,733 --> 00:52:59,700 the finals in Paris to Coco Gauff. She lost in the final in Australia to Madison Keys, 632 00:53:01,966 --> 00:53:05,866 so two Americans. She was the best player all year, consistently was the best player, 633 00:53:07,566 --> 00:53:10,000 but she really wanted to win that Major, which had eluded her. 634 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:13,100 She was going to keep the number one ranking no matter what, but I don't think it would have meant 635 00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:17,733 as much to her without the win in New York. So you saw her emotions, her reaction after winning 636 00:53:17,733 --> 00:53:21,833 that. Anisimova had another great tournament. And, remember, she played the Wimbledon final, 637 00:53:21,833 --> 00:53:26,533 didn't win a game in that one, after beating Sabalenka in a great match in the semifinals. 638 00:53:26,533 --> 00:53:29,733 So it was another great tournament for Amanda. I think we're going to see her 639 00:53:29,733 --> 00:53:33,200 break through within the next year or two. But certainly this stamps 640 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:37,633 Sabalenka as clearly the number one player in the world for this year. 641 00:53:37,633 --> 00:53:41,266 GEOFF BENNETT: And beyond the names we mentioned, who else caught your eye during this tournament 642 00:53:41,266 --> 00:53:45,400 and which storyline should we be paying attention to as the tour moves forward? 643 00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:49,500 PATRICK MCENROE: Well, I think the players, a couple of players that I mentioned, the Americans. 644 00:53:49,500 --> 00:53:54,233 Taylor Fritz had a good run, lost to Djokovic in the quarterfinals. I think that's the match he 645 00:53:54,233 --> 00:53:59,233 could have won. Ben Shelton unfortunately had to retire, got injured in that one. 646 00:54:01,233 --> 00:54:04,233 And I think Amanda Anisimova has been an amazing story, to see her resilience, 647 00:54:04,233 --> 00:54:08,933 the way she came back after it really being embarrassed on the center court at Wimbledon 648 00:54:08,933 --> 00:54:13,666 and having such another good tournament. The American women are very strong overall. 649 00:54:13,666 --> 00:54:18,233 And I think the other thing to watch for is, how does Coco Gauff recover from what really 650 00:54:18,233 --> 00:54:22,800 was a difficult time for her with going through a new coach, kind of changing the mechanics of 651 00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,800 the serve, which is highly unusual to do that at any time for a professional, 652 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:30,633 but particularly essentially right before and in the middle of a Major tournament. 653 00:54:30,633 --> 00:54:34,800 So she's got a lot of work to do to sort of rebuild her confidence and find some 654 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:38,400 sort of rhythm on that serve, because that really hurt her during this season, 655 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,233 after winning her second Major of the year in Paris. 656 00:54:41,233 --> 00:54:44,200 GEOFF BENNETT: Patrick McEnroe, great to speak with you. Thanks for joining us. 657 00:54:44,200 --> 00:54:45,066 PATRICK MCENROE: Thanks for having me. 658 00:54:57,666 --> 00:55:00,566 AMNA NAWAZ: And that is the "News Hour" for tonight. I'm Amna Nawaz. 659 00:55:00,566 --> 00:55:02,766 GEOFF BENNETT: And I'm Geoff Bennett. 660 00:55:02,766 --> 00:55:04,633 For all of us here at the "PBS News Hour," thanks for spending part of your evening with us.