WEBVTT 00:01.166 --> 00:02.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - Thank you very much for writing the book 00:02.300 --> 00:04.300 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and I'm looking forward to reading it. 00:04.300 --> 00:09.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% The question is, where was Martin Luther King, 00:10.500 --> 00:14.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Dr. King in 1968, and can you speculate about 00:16.000 --> 00:20.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% where he was headed in his quest for a better world? 00:20.100 --> 00:21.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - Yeah, and you know, it's a great question. 00:21.900 --> 00:24.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% You know, in 1968, as we know, 00:24.166 --> 00:26.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% he was in Memphis for the sanitation workers strike 00:26.233 --> 00:27.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% where his advisors told him not to go, 00:27.966 --> 00:31.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% they said it was a local issue and it wasn't worth his time. 00:31.766 --> 00:33.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And he was at the same time 00:33.000 --> 00:34.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% busy planning the Poor People's Campaign, 00:34.966 --> 00:37.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% which was really where he wanted to go next. 00:37.533 --> 00:40.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And again, advisors were saying, "Not a good idea. 00:40.700 --> 00:42.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Stick to voting rights, stick to the South. 00:42.466 --> 00:43.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% That's where we're most effective. 00:43.766 --> 00:45.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% We can raise a lot of money in the North 00:45.866 --> 00:48.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% if you just stay in the South." 00:48.166 --> 00:49.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% But he refused to do that. 00:49.600 --> 00:51.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% He wanted to move beyond civil rights to human rights. 00:51.833 --> 00:54.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He wanted to talk a lot more about income inequality, 00:54.866 --> 00:57.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and just the structure of capitalism in America. 00:57.933 --> 01:00.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I think he was pushing us toward a more of a, 01:00.066 --> 01:02.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% you know, European-style social democracy. 01:02.000 --> 01:05.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He wanted to see guaranteed wages, guaranteed jobs, 01:05.833 --> 01:08.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and he was gonna camp out in Washington 01:08.466 --> 01:10.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% as long as it took until that happened. 01:10.966 --> 01:12.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% But at the same time, he was having a really hard time 01:12.633 --> 01:15.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% recruiting people to come to Washington 01:15.166 --> 01:16.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% for that Poor People's Campaign, 01:16.566 --> 01:18.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% so he was under a lot of stress, a lot of strain, 01:18.666 --> 01:22.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and the fundraising was off for his organization, so. 01:23.900 --> 01:25.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% You know, one of the great questions of speculation is, 01:25.966 --> 01:27.233 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% you know, what would he have done? 01:27.233 --> 01:28.433 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Would he have continued? 01:28.433 --> 01:30.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Was he too depressed to keep going on? 01:30.800 --> 01:31.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% - Could he have continued? 01:31.900 --> 01:33.033 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% - Could he have continued, right, 01:33.033 --> 01:35.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% because the organization was struggling. 01:35.166 --> 01:36.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And you know, the civil rights movement 01:36.666 --> 01:40.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% was moving on in many ways, it was changing in many ways, 01:40.000 --> 01:42.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% you had these more radical factions. 01:42.100 --> 01:43.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% You also had a lot of people just starting to move 01:43.633 --> 01:46.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% into electoral politics more and losing interest. 01:46.233 --> 01:47.266 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% And a lot of the white supporters 01:47.266 --> 01:48.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% of the civil rights movement 01:48.500 --> 01:50.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% were moving on to Vietnam protests, 01:50.700 --> 01:53.733 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% so it's not clear how King would've adjusted to all of that. 01:53.733 --> 01:55.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - Like so much, as we talked about, 01:55.833 --> 01:58.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% like so much of the myth, 01:58.233 --> 02:01.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% we've forgotten how challenged he was- 02:01.033 --> 02:02.333 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% - That's right. - There at the end. 02:02.333 --> 02:03.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - Yeah, there's a really good documentary 02:03.566 --> 02:05.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% called "King in the Wilderness." 02:05.200 --> 02:06.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And those last years of his life 02:06.666 --> 02:08.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% really did feel like he was in the wilderness. 02:08.700 --> 02:09.566 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% - Amazing. 02:09.566 --> 02:10.666 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% Hi. 02:10.666 --> 02:11.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - [Audience Member] Hello, Jonathan. 02:11.600 --> 02:12.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Thank you so much for the book. 02:12.500 --> 02:13.733 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% It's a wonderful book, 02:13.733 --> 02:14.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I read last year. - Oh, I like 02:14.833 --> 02:15.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% all those Post-it Notes in there. 02:15.933 --> 02:16.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - [Audience Member] Yes, yes, yes. 02:16.866 --> 02:18.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It's a great, great, great book. 02:18.333 --> 02:19.600 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% I read in "Variety" 02:19.600 --> 02:23.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% that your book is gonna be getting adapted by, 02:23.566 --> 02:26.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and Spielberg's gonna be producing the book. 02:26.400 --> 02:27.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - [Jonathan] Maybe, we're hoping, I mean- 02:27.933 --> 02:29.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% - [Host] Tell us about that. 02:29.033 --> 02:32.066 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% - Yeah, so Chris Rock read the book 02:32.066 --> 02:34.633 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and decided he wanted to direct a film, 02:34.633 --> 02:36.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and he asked Steven Spielberg to produce, 02:36.766 --> 02:39.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and Spielberg said yes, so we are working on that. 02:39.966 --> 02:41.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% We'll have to keep our fingers crossed. 02:41.966 --> 02:42.800 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% Hope that it happens. 02:42.800 --> 02:43.800 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% - That's pretty good. 02:43.800 --> 02:44.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% (audience applauding) - Yeah. 02:44.533 --> 02:45.366 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% Not bad. 02:45.366 --> 02:46.200 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% Not a bad team. 02:46.200 --> 02:47.033 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% - Yeah. 02:48.400 --> 02:49.900 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% - Just hoping, 02:49.900 --> 02:52.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% just wondering what are you hoping for the adaptation, 02:52.533 --> 02:55.066 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and yeah, just, yeah, well, yeah, 02:55.066 --> 02:56.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% what you're hoping for it, so. 02:56.200 --> 02:57.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - Of course, there have been films 02:57.500 --> 02:59.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% in which the King story has been told, right? 02:59.033 --> 03:00.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% This would be, again, a little bit like a challenge, 03:00.466 --> 03:02.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% how do you differentiate the telling of the story? 03:02.366 --> 03:05.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% - Yeah, there hasn't been a king straight=up biopic. 03:05.433 --> 03:06.666 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% "Selma" is probably 03:06.666 --> 03:07.866 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% the most recent movie- - "Selma," right. 03:07.866 --> 03:09.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - That really looked deeply in his life. 03:09.366 --> 03:12.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And the new Bayard Rustin movie has a lot of King in it. 03:12.466 --> 03:14.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I don't know what to expect, 03:14.300 --> 03:18.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and I just hope that they treat it with honesty, and nuance, 03:18.300 --> 03:21.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and subtlety, and not too sensational, you know? 03:21.033 --> 03:24.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% But you know, I haven't had any of my books 03:24.466 --> 03:26.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% turned into films or TV shows yet. 03:26.033 --> 03:27.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Some of them are in the works. 03:27.766 --> 03:28.766 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% - [Audience Member] Right. 03:28.766 --> 03:29.966 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% - Fingers crossed. 03:29.966 --> 03:31.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% But you just have to hope that like, 03:31.066 --> 03:32.533 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% people bring the same passion to it. 03:32.533 --> 03:34.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% But it's also, it's in some, it's like, it's, you know, 03:34.066 --> 03:35.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% you raised the baby and now it goes off on its own. 03:35.700 --> 03:37.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - [Host] When they turn the book into the movie, 03:37.400 --> 03:38.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% it's no longer yours, right? 03:38.833 --> 03:40.200 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% That's the old line. 03:40.200 --> 03:41.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% You just have to hope. - Right. 03:41.400 --> 03:42.733 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% - [Host] But of course, 03:42.733 --> 03:44.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% with those guys in charge of the production, 03:44.166 --> 03:46.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% if that's in fact what happens, pretty good hands. 03:46.700 --> 03:47.533 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% - Very good hands. 03:47.533 --> 03:48.500 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% - [Host] To be in. 03:48.500 --> 03:49.333 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% Congratulations. 03:49.333 --> 03:50.233 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% - Thank you. 03:50.233 --> 03:51.066 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% - [Host] Dan. 03:52.233 --> 03:53.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - Yeah, I finished the book this weekend. 03:53.300 --> 03:54.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I've read all of your books, 03:54.566 --> 03:55.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% they're all fantastic. - [Jonathan] Wow, 03:55.833 --> 03:56.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% thank you so much. - Thank you for that. 03:56.766 --> 03:58.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% It dawned on me this weekend 03:58.333 --> 04:01.566 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% that if he was still alive, he would be in his 90s. 04:01.566 --> 04:03.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - [Jonathan] Right. - [Host] 94, right, 94? 04:03.433 --> 04:04.433 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% - [Jonathan] He would've just turned 95. 04:04.433 --> 04:05.633 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% - Jut 95, yeah. 04:05.633 --> 04:06.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - What do you think he would think of 04:06.566 --> 04:09.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% today's politics and situation? 04:09.966 --> 04:12.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - Right, what would he think of Donald Trump? 04:12.133 --> 04:13.466 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% (audience laughing) 04:13.466 --> 04:15.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Take 30 minutes to answer. 04:15.533 --> 04:16.366 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% (audience laughing) 04:16.366 --> 04:17.300 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% - Yeah, right. 04:17.300 --> 04:18.666 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Oh man, what a great question. 04:18.666 --> 04:20.466 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% When you go home tonight, check out, 04:20.466 --> 04:21.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Google "The Boondocks" episode 04:21.933 --> 04:24.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% where King is actually in a coma for all these years 04:24.900 --> 04:26.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and he comes outta the coma, 04:26.433 --> 04:28.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and he responds to what he's seeing around him, 04:28.066 --> 04:30.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and he's not a happy person. (audience chuckling) 04:30.000 --> 04:32.166 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% But I think it'd be, it's so hard, 04:32.166 --> 04:33.466 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% it feels like we're living on 04:33.466 --> 04:35.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% a different planet than he inhabited, 04:35.600 --> 04:37.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and maybe that's in part because we lost him. 04:37.933 --> 04:39.433 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% But I like to look at the examples 04:39.433 --> 04:42.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% of the people who surrounded him, like Harry Belafonte, 04:42.533 --> 04:46.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% who remained a radical all into his 90s. 04:46.033 --> 04:51.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Like his sister, like Coretta, like John Lewis, 04:51.000 --> 04:52.366 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% people who never stopped struggling. 04:52.366 --> 04:53.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% - [Host] John Lewis, right. 04:53.566 --> 04:55.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - And I feel fairly certain that King, 04:55.900 --> 04:57.133 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% I like to think at least 04:57.133 --> 04:59.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% that King would've never stopped struggling. 04:59.766 --> 05:01.500 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% - [Host] And one of the King kids 05:01.500 --> 05:02.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% just passed away, right? - Yeah. 05:02.600 --> 05:03.700 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% - [Host] Within the last two weeks. 05:03.700 --> 05:04.633 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% - Yeah, his son Dexter passed away. 05:04.633 --> 05:05.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% - I believe, but the other King- 05:05.866 --> 05:07.233 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% - He has two surviving children, 05:07.233 --> 05:08.433 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% right. - Surviving children. 05:08.433 --> 05:11.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% What's your sense of, how much of a, 05:11.300 --> 05:13.300 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% talk a bit about them in the context of this book. 05:13.300 --> 05:14.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% - Well, they decided not to be 05:14.533 --> 05:15.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% interviewed for the book. - Yeah, right. 05:15.466 --> 05:16.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% - And I haven't heard from them 05:16.533 --> 05:17.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% since the book was published. 05:17.600 --> 05:18.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I hope that they might read it 05:18.833 --> 05:21.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and find something of value in it, 05:21.000 --> 05:22.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% but it's hard to read about your parents, you know? 05:22.700 --> 05:26.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It's hard to read about your parents as flawed humans, 05:26.966 --> 05:28.233 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% so I understand that. 05:28.233 --> 05:29.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - [Host] It's hard to read a perfect story, 05:29.466 --> 05:30.100 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% it's really hard to read an imperfect story. 05:30.100 --> 05:30.933 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% - Yeah. 05:30.933 --> 05:31.833 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% - [Host] All right, yes. 05:31.833 --> 05:33.366 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Okay, Carl, last question. 05:33.366 --> 05:35.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% - I have a friend in New York whose mentor was Abe Briloff, 05:35.700 --> 05:39.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% a famous accounting professor at Baruch. 05:39.366 --> 05:43.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And my friend, Charlie Dreyfuss, who's now 80, 05:43.266 --> 05:48.266 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% talked about Briloff being Harry Belafonte's accountant, 05:49.600 --> 05:52.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and how Belafonte was surreptitiously supporting King 05:52.800 --> 05:55.800 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70% in his efforts, and I'm wondering if you came across that, 05:55.800 --> 05:59.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% if that's valid or not, and that King was ultimately, 05:59.400 --> 06:04.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% as part of the FBI activity was audited or examined, 06:05.666 --> 06:07.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and that one of the Briloff's proudest moments 06:07.666 --> 06:09.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% was they couldn't find anything 06:09.033 --> 06:13.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% that got Belafonte or King in trouble that way. 06:14.666 --> 06:15.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% - That's a great question. 06:15.900 --> 06:18.600 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% Yeah, King was hugely helped by Belafonte. 06:18.600 --> 06:20.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Belafonte was deeply concerned 06:20.433 --> 06:22.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% that the King family didn't have enough money. 06:22.666 --> 06:25.366 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% He paid for all kinds of things for the family, 06:25.366 --> 06:27.433 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% a housekeeper, babysitters. 06:27.433 --> 06:31.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He bought a life insurance policy for Dr. King, 06:31.100 --> 06:33.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% which was really all they had when he was assassinated 06:33.733 --> 06:34.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% 'cause King had saved nothing. 06:34.933 --> 06:37.766 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% He had donated every penny of his income 06:37.766 --> 06:40.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% or his book money to the SCLC or to his church. 06:40.933 --> 06:42.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And the accountants did a great job, 06:42.833 --> 06:45.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% because the, Alabama did come after him for taxes, 06:45.900 --> 06:49.866 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and a white jury ruled in King's favor 06:49.866 --> 06:52.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% that he did not owe his taxes. 06:52.633 --> 06:54.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And I just wanna add that- 06:56.100 --> 06:57.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% Oh, what was I gonna say? 06:57.600 --> 07:00.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Oh, you know, Belafonte really was one of the great heroes. 07:00.466 --> 07:02.533 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% I know he's a famous guy, 07:02.533 --> 07:03.733 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% but I still don't think he's gotten all the credit 07:03.733 --> 07:06.000 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% he deserves for everything he did. 07:06.000 --> 07:09.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He raised money for bail for people when they were arrested, 07:09.833 --> 07:11.333 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% and during the Birmingham protest, 07:11.333 --> 07:14.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% he rallied Hollywood to support the civil rights crusade, 07:14.866 --> 07:18.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and Belafonte was a really good friend and ally to King. 07:18.333 --> 07:19.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - And he was one of the people on your list 07:19.800 --> 07:21.533 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% who you said, "I better talk to him soon." 07:21.533 --> 07:23.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% - He was one of my first interviews 07:23.000 --> 07:24.500 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% and one of my favorites. 07:24.500 --> 07:27.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% He spent like, three or four hours with me in his apartment. 07:27.600 --> 07:30.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And he's the kinda person who could say, 07:30.566 --> 07:32.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% you know, sometimes when people are famous 07:32.266 --> 07:34.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% and you know this, they go on autopilot, 07:34.333 --> 07:35.166 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% they say the same thing over and over. 07:35.166 --> 07:36.666 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% - Yeah. 07:36.666 --> 07:38.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% - Belafonte would stop and say, "Let me think about that." 07:38.300 --> 07:39.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% And he would really think. 07:39.800 --> 07:41.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% I said to him, "What did you guys do when you were bored?" 07:41.766 --> 07:43.833 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And he said, "et me think about that. 07:43.833 --> 07:45.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% You know, Martin would come over here a lot 07:45.800 --> 07:48.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% and we would just sit around and listen to records." 07:48.466 --> 07:50.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And I said, "What kind of music did you listen to?" 07:50.433 --> 07:52.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And he said, "Let me think about that." 07:52.266 --> 07:53.500 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% (chuckling) 07:53.500 --> 07:54.700 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% "You know, I took him to a jazz club once. 07:54.700 --> 07:56.400 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% I think we went to hear Lester Young. 07:56.400 --> 07:59.066 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% And he really didn't like bebop that much, 07:59.066 --> 08:01.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% so when we put on records, we put on movement songs. 08:01.733 --> 08:03.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% We put on Peter, Paul and Mary and Lead Belly, 08:03.966 --> 08:05.666 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% and he'd sing along." 08:05.666 --> 08:07.200 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% And I said, "Was he a good singer?" 08:07.200 --> 08:10.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% And Belafonte just laughed and said, "He was a loud singer." 08:10.333 --> 08:12.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% (Jonathan and audience laughing) 08:12.033 --> 08:14.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% - Love that, that's great. 08:14.066 --> 08:16.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Well, we're gonna let Jonathan go get ready for tonight. 08:16.133 --> 08:17.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% He has some other stuff this afternoon. 08:17.500 --> 08:18.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% Please give him a big hand. (audience applauding) 08:18.733 --> 08:20.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% It is great to have him here. - Thanks. 08:20.233 --> 08:21.433 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% - Wish him success. 08:21.433 --> 08:22.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% We'll see you soon, thanks very much. 08:22.966 --> 08:23.800 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50% Great.