WEBVTT 00:00.800 --> 00:01.566 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% For us, it was important for people 00:01.966 --> 00:04.566 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% to understand that this film was about a contradiction. 00:05.166 --> 00:08.166 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% A contradiction between 00:08.166 --> 00:10.566 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% how do we want to relate to animals 00:10.566 --> 00:12.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% and how do we relate to animals. 00:12.566 --> 00:16.500 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% The fact that medicine today sacrifices animals 00:16.500 --> 00:17.933 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60% to save humans. 00:17.933 --> 00:18.500 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% On one hand, 00:19.000 --> 00:21.833 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% we have a laboratory that is like a science fiction 00:21.833 --> 00:25.466 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5% scenario, with scientists 00:25.666 --> 00:30.000 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% dressed as astronauts working with lethal viruses. 00:30.000 --> 00:31.400 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5% And on the other side of the window, 00:31.400 --> 00:34.600 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% but literally on the other side of the window, you have a 00:34.600 --> 00:39.500 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% shepherd with his herd doing a job that it is believed 00:39.500 --> 00:42.300 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% that started 10,000 years ago. 00:42.300 --> 00:45.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% We also understood that our film was something that 00:45.466 --> 00:47.066 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50% didn't have to take a point of view, 00:47.066 --> 00:51.133 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% because we, I mean, me as the director, but also the 00:51.133 --> 00:54.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80% co-writers, had a contradictory feeling about this. 00:54.633 --> 00:57.566 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% We don't want animals to be sacrificed, but we understand 00:57.566 --> 01:00.966 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70% that science needs this to advance medicine. 01:01.500 --> 01:05.033 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% So it's not an easy answer to say, “Okay, I am against. 01:05.033 --> 01:06.000 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5% I am for it.” 01:06.000 --> 01:07.133 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5% We as 01:08.233 --> 01:11.533 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% urban people want to have a, 01:11.533 --> 01:13.166 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60% we are building an idea of nature 01:13.166 --> 01:14.633 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5% as a place with no conflict. 01:14.633 --> 01:17.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80% We want nature to be beautiful 01:18.033 --> 01:21.133 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65% and to be peaceful. 01:21.800 --> 01:23.500 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70% And nature is not this. 01:23.500 --> 01:28.300 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75% And I think it's something that we have to deal with 01:28.300 --> 01:31.700 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5% because the more we idealize nature, 01:31.700 --> 01:35.033 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5% the more we widen the gap between us and nature.