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 A battle

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 over how to fund

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 Michigan schools

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 and from the K through

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 12 school Alliance.

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 Superintendent Erik

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 Edoff is here

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 to talk about that.

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 And that's our lead story.

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 And the Biden campaign

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 takes up residency

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 in Michigan from the U.P.

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 to Detroit

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 around the OTR  table.

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 Jonathan Oosting, Emily

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 Lawler and Simon Schuster

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 sit in with us

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 as we get the inside out.

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 Off the record.

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 Production of Off

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 the Record is made possible,

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 in part by

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 and now

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 this edition of Off

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 the Record with Tim Skubick.

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 Thanks very much.

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 Welcome to studio

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 C for off the record, Well,

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 we have a little

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 dispute going on.

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 Maybe that word is too strong,

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 but I like it over the school

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 aid budget.

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 Let's take a look eh.

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 With over a million

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 school kids in the classroom,

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 what state lawmakers

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 do on the state school

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 aid budget

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 is critical

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 to the quality of education

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 being offered

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 to those students.

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 This Republican senator

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 doesn't give it

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 a passing grade.

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 Wouldn't give it a pass

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 ranging between an A

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 to a B minus on the proposal.

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 Senator Albert's big beef

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 with the Democratic budget

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 is that it

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 redirects $670 million

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 from the teacher's retirement

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 fund into a host

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 of school programs,

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 which he claims are

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 simply not needed

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 and will only eventually

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 drive up the debt

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 in that retirement fund.

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 Giving free lunches

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 to kids

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 from wealthy families,

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 starting driver's

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 training programs,

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 all sorts of different things

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 where we really just need

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 to focus on

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 making sure

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 our kids can do math

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 and read and

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 and perform better in science.

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 The public education lobby,

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 meanwhile, sees other spending,

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 including a boost

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 in the per Pupil Foundation

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 grant, which is good news.

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 We're very pleased

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 to see a 3.1% increase

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 in the foundation allowance,

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 some serious investments in

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 at risk

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 as well as special education.

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 However, there's

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 a real sticky point in that

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 the Senate Democrats have sided

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 with the governor on

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 how to use the teacher

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 retirement account.

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 Well, the education

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 lobby favors the House version,

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 whereby they claim

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 an additional 500 bucks

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 could be spent on each student.

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 All of the management community

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 and the

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 the labor community

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 on the education side

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 advocating for a

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 certain priority.

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 I think you're going

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 to start hearing

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 from legislators

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 that they want to make it

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 their priority as well

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 to see those dollars

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 come back to the classroom.

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 There was money for a free

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 breakfast program,

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 more money for mental

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 health and related

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 post-COVID services

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 and funds to recruit

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 and retain teachers,

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 and about $9,700

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 for every pupil in the state.

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 However, this debate

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 between the governor

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 and the Democrats

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 and the education lobby

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 not clear how

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 that's going to come out.

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 All right.

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 So how serious is this

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 disagreement, Emily?

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 You know,

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 I think that we saw

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 the Democrats

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 being on the same page

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 for a very long time

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 at the beginning of their

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 tenure here for taking over

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 power for the first time

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 in 40 years.

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 And this is more along

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 the lines

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 of what I was expecting to see,

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 some sort of different idea.

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 That's what you.

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 Were hoping to see.

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 I'm not rooting it Tim,

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 but I do think

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 that this is sort

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 of a natural progression

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 of a relationship.

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 Well,

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 this is more of the same house

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 versus Senate, is it not?

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 Certainly.

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 And I mean,

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 I think that this sort of shows

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 the disconnect

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 between these agendas.

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 I think,

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 you know, Governor Whitmer

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 had such a commanding win

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 in the 2022 election.

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 It allotted her

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 a certain amount

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 of political gravity

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 for her policy agenda.

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 And you're obviously

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 seeing a shift here

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 with the changing

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 fiscal picture,

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 although bean counters

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 aren't necessarily saying

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 that we're going

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 to have a revenue shortfall,

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 what's possible?

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 The ceiling on

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 that has lowered.

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 And so by having this shift,

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 this gives Governor Whitmer

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 more wiggle room.

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 But then it also gives,

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 I think, the legislature

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 a bigger stake at the table

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 in terms

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 of what they want done.

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 Yeah, that's the real

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 subtext here.

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 The state had a big surplus.

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 It had all of this

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 federal funding

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 that's run out now.

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 So this is the first budget.

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 Whitmer And Democrats

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 who are in control

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 are going to have to make that

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 a little tighter.

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 So what the governor

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 wants to do is shift some money

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 that would have been spent

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 on retirement

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 back into other

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 education programs.

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 The House

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 agrees generally

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 with that concept.

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 It's just a matter

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 of how it works, right?

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 Whitmer wants that money to,

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 you know, the state

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 to save that money

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 so the state can redirect

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 the funds.

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 The house

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 and the education lobby

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 even further is saying, no,

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 reduce the payments

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 that schools

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 have to make

04:26.266 --> 04:27.266 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 to that retirement.

04:27.266 --> 04:28.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 Take it off our back and put it

04:28.233 --> 04:29.266 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 on yours. Exactly.

04:29.266 --> 04:30.766 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 So and then you have this

04:30.766 --> 04:32.400 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 third leg of the stool,

04:32.400 --> 04:33.300 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 not quite as important

04:33.300 --> 04:33.533 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 because they're

04:33.833 --> 04:34.166 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 in the minority.

04:34.433 --> 04:35.166 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 But the Republicans

04:35.166 --> 04:36.300 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 who are just saying that

04:36.300 --> 04:37.500 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 they don't like the idea

04:37.500 --> 04:39.233 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 of a shift at all,

04:39.233 --> 04:40.500 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 they don't want

04:40.500 --> 04:40.800 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55%
 you know,

04:41.200 --> 04:42.500 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 they set up these systems

04:42.500 --> 04:43.200 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55%
 in place

04:43.200 --> 04:45.100 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 to pay down long term debt

04:45.100 --> 04:45.900 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 to make sure

04:45.900 --> 04:47.200 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 that the retirement

04:47.200 --> 04:48.366 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 funds, the pension

04:48.366 --> 04:49.266 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 fund, the health care fund,

04:49.266 --> 04:50.166 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 we're going to be solvent

04:50.166 --> 04:51.500 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 for the long term.

04:51.500 --> 04:52.266 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 And they say just

04:52.266 --> 04:53.666 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 because on paper

04:53.666 --> 04:55.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 that starting to look better

04:55.833 --> 04:56.333 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 doesn't mean

04:56.600 --> 04:58.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 we should end that effort now.

04:58.133 --> 04:59.666 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 So it's complicated,

04:59.666 --> 05:00.633 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 it's in the weeds.

05:00.633 --> 05:01.800 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 But the main issue

05:01.800 --> 05:03.766 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 is without this shift

05:03.766 --> 05:04.433 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 in funding,

05:04.433 --> 05:05.233 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 the state would actually

05:05.233 --> 05:06.533 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 be cutting education

05:06.533 --> 05:08.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 spending fairly significantly.

05:08.233 --> 05:08.733 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55%
 It would.

05:08.733 --> 05:09.466 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 It seems to me

05:09.466 --> 05:11.000 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 that this coalition is

05:11.000 --> 05:11.833 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 is somewhat

05:11.833 --> 05:13.466 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 of a rarity in our town.

05:13.466 --> 05:15.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 They have labor and management

05:15.200 --> 05:16.666 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 all on the same page.

05:16.666 --> 05:18.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 Yeah, I think that is something

05:18.200 --> 05:19.366 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 that is unique

05:19.366 --> 05:20.433 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 about this

05:20.433 --> 05:21.766 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 argument or dispute,

05:21.766 --> 05:23.866 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 as you termed it earlier.

05:23.866 --> 05:24.266 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 But, you know,

05:24.566 --> 05:25.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 I do think that there's like

05:25.266 --> 05:26.033 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 a lot of different

05:26.033 --> 05:26.933 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 legs of the stool,

05:26.933 --> 05:27.600 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5%
 I guess

05:27.600 --> 05:28.666 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 as Jonathan put it,

05:28.666 --> 05:30.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 and a lot of competing ideas.

05:30.133 --> 05:30.800 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 And frankly,

05:30.800 --> 05:31.500 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 this is what conference

05:31.500 --> 05:32.500 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 committees are for, right?

05:32.500 --> 05:33.266 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55%
 There's a

05:33.266 --> 05:34.600 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 proposal on the table.

05:34.600 --> 05:35.266 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 There are competing

05:35.266 --> 05:36.366 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 proposals on the table,

05:36.366 --> 05:37.200 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 and you get in a room

05:37.200 --> 05:38.000 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 and hash it out.

05:38.000 --> 05:38.733 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 And unfortunately,

05:38.733 --> 05:39.500 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 we're not invited,

05:39.500 --> 05:40.433 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 which seems rude.

05:40.433 --> 05:41.266 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55%
 But yeah,

05:41.266 --> 05:42.766 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 well, that's the reality.

05:42.766 --> 05:43.700 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 It would seem to be that

05:43.700 --> 05:44.933 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 this coalition goes to,

05:44.933 --> 05:46.166 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 particularly members

05:46.166 --> 05:46.933 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 of the House

05:46.933 --> 05:48.633 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 who are wishy washy on this

05:48.633 --> 05:49.666 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55%
 and say,

05:49.666 --> 05:49.933 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50%
 look,

05:50.433 --> 05:51.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 we're looking at the calendar.

05:51.200 --> 05:52.366 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 You've got a primary

05:52.366 --> 05:54.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 coming up in August, don't you?

05:54.366 --> 05:55.066 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 Yeah, absolutely.

05:55.066 --> 05:56.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 I think the election year is

05:56.266 --> 05:58.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 what overshadows all of this.

05:58.033 --> 05:58.533 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 There's a certain

05:58.733 --> 06:00.000 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 couching of expectations,

06:00.000 --> 06:01.066 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 but I think there's also,

06:01.066 --> 06:02.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 because of what they're looking

06:02.466 --> 06:04.333 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 to do with this funding,

06:04.333 --> 06:05.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 they want to be able to come

06:05.433 --> 06:06.166 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 to their constituents

06:06.166 --> 06:07.433 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 in August and say, see,

06:07.433 --> 06:08.133 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 although, you know,

06:08.133 --> 06:08.633 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 we may not have

06:08.866 --> 06:09.666 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 as much money to work with,

06:09.666 --> 06:10.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 we're still delivering for you.

06:10.833 --> 06:11.866 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 And as a new, you know,

06:11.866 --> 06:12.866 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 Democratic trifecta,

06:12.866 --> 06:13.900 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 the first in 40 years,

06:13.900 --> 06:14.566 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 we still have an

06:14.566 --> 06:15.600 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 ambitious policy agenda

06:15.600 --> 06:16.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 that we're moving forward on.

06:16.766 --> 06:17.333 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 And it wasn't just

06:17.333 --> 06:18.000 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 a fluke because

06:18.000 --> 06:18.733 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5%
 of this

06:18.733 --> 06:20.000 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 glut of federal resources.

06:20.000 --> 06:21.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 And I wonder if some might of

06:21.700 --> 06:22.666 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 like directing it into

06:22.666 --> 06:23.366 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 the specific

06:23.366 --> 06:24.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 programs gives you something

06:24.433 --> 06:26.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 more concrete to brag about.

06:26.500 --> 06:27.400 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 You know, expanding

06:27.400 --> 06:28.033 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 school lunches

06:28.033 --> 06:28.666 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 was something

06:28.666 --> 06:29.433 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 that we always sort of

06:29.433 --> 06:29.833 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 said, like,

06:30.033 --> 06:30.600 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 where's the ongoing

06:30.600 --> 06:32.000 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 funding for that?

06:32.000 --> 06:33.700 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 Expanding universal pre-K

06:33.700 --> 06:35.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 is something that, you know,

06:35.433 --> 06:36.633 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 a question hanging over

06:36.633 --> 06:38.333 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 It was where that ongoing

06:38.333 --> 06:39.333 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 funding comes from.

06:39.333 --> 06:41.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 And I do think that, you know,

06:41.066 --> 06:43.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 maybe those programs are easier

06:43.100 --> 06:43.766 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 to talk about

06:43.766 --> 06:45.066 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 than a general school

06:45.066 --> 06:45.733 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 and get more money.

06:45.733 --> 06:46.433 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 Well, plus,

06:46.433 --> 06:47.600 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 there's the potential loss

06:47.600 --> 06:48.433 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 of all that mental

06:48.433 --> 06:49.400 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 health services

06:49.400 --> 06:50.300 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 and the counseling

06:50.300 --> 06:51.000 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 and tutoring stuff

06:51.000 --> 06:52.700 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 that went on post-COVID.

06:52.700 --> 06:53.466 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 Some of those people

06:53.466 --> 06:54.366 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 may evaporate,

06:54.366 --> 06:55.333 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 but for lack of money,

06:55.333 --> 06:56.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 some of this might end up there

06:56.700 --> 06:57.366 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55%
 for sure.

06:57.366 --> 06:58.066 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 Well, yeah,

06:58.066 --> 06:59.066 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 a lot of the districts

06:59.066 --> 07:01.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 themselves were getting money

07:01.500 --> 07:02.600 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 from the federal government

07:02.600 --> 07:03.266 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55%
 as well.

07:03.266 --> 07:04.766 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 That expires this year.

07:04.766 --> 07:05.166 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5%
 As you

07:05.400 --> 07:07.066 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 mentioned, counselors,

07:07.066 --> 07:09.133 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 school support staff.

07:09.133 --> 07:10.300 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 The state had a program

07:10.300 --> 07:11.000 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 where they were paying

07:11.000 --> 07:12.100 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 part of the salaries

07:12.100 --> 07:12.700 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 for districts

07:12.700 --> 07:13.633 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 to bring those folks

07:13.633 --> 07:15.566 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 on using COVID money.

07:15.566 --> 07:16.100 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 So a lot of the

07:16.333 --> 07:17.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 stuff is all coming to a head.

07:17.200 --> 07:17.833 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 I mean, it's

07:17.833 --> 07:19.166 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 been good for schools

07:19.166 --> 07:19.800 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 in the state

07:19.800 --> 07:20.633 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 that they got all this

07:20.633 --> 07:21.733 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 federal money.

07:21.733 --> 07:24.266 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 But now how you know,

07:24.266 --> 07:25.700 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 did you use it on long

07:25.700 --> 07:27.200 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 term expenses

07:27.200 --> 07:28.033 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 or did you use it

07:28.033 --> 07:28.866 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 on one time expenses

07:28.866 --> 07:29.533 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 because you could spend it

07:29.533 --> 07:30.766 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 on salaries

07:30.766 --> 07:32.166 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 like Ann Arbor

07:32.166 --> 07:34.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 seems to have done somewhat.

07:34.166 --> 07:35.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 You're looking at potentially

07:35.500 --> 07:36.166 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 having to make

07:36.166 --> 07:37.733 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 some painful cuts

07:37.733 --> 07:38.766 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 this summer during

07:38.766 --> 07:39.600 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 the budgeting process

07:39.600 --> 07:40.266 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 for local school districts

07:40.266 --> 07:40.700 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50%
 Well,

07:40.966 --> 07:42.333 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 the L word is now in play

07:42.333 --> 07:44.100 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 layoffs. Yeah, absolutely.

07:44.100 --> 07:44.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 And I think that's something

07:44.733 --> 07:45.500 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 that we've seen in

07:45.500 --> 07:46.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 Ann Arbor now is that specters

07:46.933 --> 07:48.266 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 raise its ugly head

07:48.266 --> 07:49.300 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 and as a result is

07:49.300 --> 07:50.933 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 Jonathan was mentioning

07:50.933 --> 07:51.733 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 there's little control

07:51.733 --> 07:52.600 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 that the state has over

07:52.600 --> 07:53.600 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55%
 how these

07:53.600 --> 07:54.333 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 local school districts

07:54.333 --> 07:55.133 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 use these funds.

07:55.133 --> 07:56.900 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 And so as a result,

07:56.900 --> 07:58.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 this gives the school districts

07:58.400 --> 07:58.833 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5%
 as well

07:59.133 --> 08:00.366 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 a little bit of wiggle room

08:00.366 --> 08:01.866 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 because they're not

08:01.866 --> 08:02.466 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 they don't have that

08:02.466 --> 08:03.300 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 sort of OPEB monkey

08:03.300 --> 08:04.066 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 on their back.

08:04.066 --> 08:04.233 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50%
 Well,

08:04.600 --> 08:04.800 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 the interesting

08:05.166 --> 08:05.566 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 part of their story,

08:05.866 --> 08:06.566 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 it will affect the quality

08:06.566 --> 08:07.300 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 of education

08:07.300 --> 08:08.333 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 from virtually every school

08:08.333 --> 08:09.100 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 kid is out there.

08:09.100 --> 08:10.733 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 How if you were betting on

08:10.733 --> 08:11.966 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 which side is going to win,

08:11.966 --> 08:14.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 which side would you bet on?

08:14.433 --> 08:14.866 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55%
 You know

08:15.100 --> 08:15.966 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 no bettors in the group.

08:15.966 --> 08:17.766 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 well, the House plan

08:17.766 --> 08:19.433 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 actually is somewhere

08:19.433 --> 08:20.200 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 in between

08:20.200 --> 08:21.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 what the education lobby wants

08:21.633 --> 08:22.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 and what the governor wants.

08:22.666 --> 08:23.666 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 So I woulnt be surprised.

08:23.666 --> 08:25.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 Theres a middle ground there.

08:25.400 --> 08:25.800 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 Im not going to bet.

08:26.000 --> 08:26.600 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 But I will say over

08:26.600 --> 08:27.300 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 the last decade,

08:27.300 --> 08:28.300 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 we've seen increases

08:28.300 --> 08:29.066 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 in education

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 and whether we see increases

08:30.366 --> 08:31.566 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 in these specific programs

08:31.566 --> 08:33.233 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 or the overall bottom line,

08:33.233 --> 08:33.733 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 they're going to be

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 an increase.

08:34.366 --> 08:34.533 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50%
 Yeah,

08:35.066 --> 08:35.600 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 the bottom line, Democrats

08:35.600 --> 08:36.133 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 want to put out

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 a press release

08:36.666 --> 08:37.433 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 that says record

08:37.433 --> 08:39.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 funding again for K-12 schools

08:39.966 --> 08:40.900 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 every year.

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 That's right.

08:41.566 --> 08:42.666 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 It's sitting on the back

08:42.666 --> 08:44.133 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 desk waiting to be issued.

08:44.133 --> 08:45.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 Yeah, I think that obviously

08:45.200 --> 08:46.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 it's a lot easier to be like,

08:46.266 --> 08:47.200 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 hey, look at my new sports

08:47.200 --> 08:48.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 car instead of I'm making extra

08:48.766 --> 08:49.566 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 principal payments

08:49.566 --> 08:50.166 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 on my mortgage.

08:50.166 --> 08:51.266 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 How cool is that?

08:51.266 --> 08:53.033 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 And so, yeah, absolutely.

08:53.033 --> 08:54.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 And I think one of the short

08:54.366 --> 08:55.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 fallings of our budget process

08:55.600 --> 08:56.266 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 that people have complained

08:56.266 --> 08:57.366 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 about for a long time

08:57.366 --> 08:57.966 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 is there's a level

08:57.966 --> 08:59.300 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 of opaqueness in that

08:59.300 --> 09:01.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 until we see these documents

09:01.000 --> 09:01.833 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 come out of conference

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 committee,

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 we don't really know

09:03.566 --> 09:04.500 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 all of the stakeholders

09:04.500 --> 09:05.200 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 that are at play,

09:05.200 --> 09:06.700 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 what all the demands are

09:06.700 --> 09:07.133 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55%
 in terms

09:07.133 --> 09:08.000 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 of looking at

09:08.000 --> 09:09.033 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 where this flexible funding

09:09.033 --> 09:09.733 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5%
 can go

09:09.733 --> 09:10.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 from different stakeholders.

09:10.733 --> 09:11.866 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5%
 And so

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 the number that

09:12.400 --> 09:12.933 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 they're arriving

09:12.933 --> 09:13.233 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 at in the House

09:13.633 --> 09:14.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 and the Senate, we're seeing

09:14.200 --> 09:15.733 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 that sort of as a

09:15.733 --> 09:17.033 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 as a signal

09:17.033 --> 09:17.466 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55%
 for where

09:17.700 --> 09:18.400 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 these stakeholders are.

09:18.400 --> 09:19.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 But we really don't know how

09:19.133 --> 09:19.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 things are going to shake out.

09:19.866 --> 09:20.433 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 The bad news

09:20.433 --> 09:21.366 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 for Republicans

09:21.366 --> 09:22.300 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 is the concept

09:22.300 --> 09:24.300 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 of delayed gratification

09:24.300 --> 09:25.766 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 is but a fond memory.

09:25.766 --> 09:26.133 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50%
 Okay?

09:26.466 --> 09:26.900 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 People don't want to look

09:27.233 --> 09:28.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 ten years down the road. Okay?

09:28.300 --> 09:29.033 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 They want to look at

09:29.033 --> 09:30.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 what's in front of their nose,

09:30.666 --> 09:32.133 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 enough of the editorial

09:32.133 --> 09:32.333 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 comment. All right.

09:32.833 --> 09:33.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 Let's move on to number two.

09:33.766 --> 09:35.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 The Bidens. Everybody and there

09:35.600 --> 09:37.200 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 uncles coming in Michigan.

09:37.200 --> 09:38.233 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 Yeah, you may

09:38.233 --> 09:39.433 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 have seen Joe Biden

09:39.433 --> 09:40.200 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 as far north

09:40.200 --> 09:41.466 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 as the upper Peninsula

09:41.466 --> 09:42.400 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 this week.

09:42.400 --> 09:43.633 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 She'll be downstate. 

09:43.633 --> 09:44.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 She'll be downstate three days.

09:44.200 --> 09:45.033 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55%
 Yup, yup.

09:45.033 --> 09:46.633 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 Upper Peninsula up north

09:46.633 --> 09:47.333 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 and then down

09:47.333 --> 09:49.266 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 state to Midland, Detroit.

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 And of course,

09:49.866 --> 09:50.500 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 the president himself

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 is coming to the

09:51.433 --> 09:53.266 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 NAACP dinner in Detroit.

09:53.266 --> 09:54.933 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 So that's a pretty broad

09:54.933 --> 09:56.000 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 swath of voters

09:56.000 --> 09:56.733 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 they're targeting

09:56.733 --> 09:58.833 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 between the two agendas.

09:58.833 --> 10:00.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 Are the two itineraries there?

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 Well, is it

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 the vice president's

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 husband also in the state?

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 Yeah. Yeah.

10:04.133 --> 10:06.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 He's traveling with Joe Biden.

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 So, you know,

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 and we saw Harris in the state

10:08.966 --> 10:10.100 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 last Monday, I believe.

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 So I do think. Does the White

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 House event,

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 not a campaign event.

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 Yet. So in quotes.

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 So is this an indication?

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 Well, one,

10:21.200 --> 10:21.933 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 it's an indication

10:21.933 --> 10:22.833 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 that Michigan is important,

10:22.833 --> 10:24.066 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 but is it an indication

10:24.066 --> 10:24.766 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 that this campaign

10:24.766 --> 10:26.466 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 is in trouble in Michigan?

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 I think when.

10:27.266 --> 10:28.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 You talk to campaign officials,

10:28.533 --> 10:29.666 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 Biden campaign officials,

10:29.666 --> 10:30.633 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 they bend over backwards

10:30.633 --> 10:31.333 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 to say that

10:31.333 --> 10:32.366 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 we don't have concerns.

10:32.366 --> 10:33.733 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 This just demonstrates

10:33.733 --> 10:35.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 why Michigan is secure for us

10:35.300 --> 10:36.100 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 because we're

10:36.100 --> 10:36.900 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 willing to show up,

10:36.900 --> 10:38.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 whereas the former president,

10:38.466 --> 10:39.033 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 Donald Trump,

10:39.033 --> 10:40.066 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 is just going to fly

10:40.066 --> 10:40.766 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 in, hold a rally

10:40.766 --> 10:41.533 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 and fly back out.

10:41.533 --> 10:42.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 But we're here on the ground.

10:42.900 --> 10:43.566 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 And so that's why

10:43.566 --> 10:44.033 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 you should know that

10:44.266 --> 10:45.233 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 we have real commitments.

10:45.233 --> 10:45.866 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 But they're

10:45.866 --> 10:47.066 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 projecting confidence.

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 But I think that just the sheer

10:48.333 --> 10:49.733 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 amount of ground time

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 for all of these

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 prominent figures

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 seems to

10:53.233 --> 10:53.900 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 indicate that

10:53.900 --> 10:54.700 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 there are some concerns

10:54.700 --> 10:55.266 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 for the campaign.

10:55.266 --> 10:56.100 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 Well, the memory of

10:56.100 --> 10:56.733 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 go ahead and.

10:56.733 --> 10:57.700 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 Michigan isn't alone.

10:57.700 --> 10:58.200 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 They're right.

10:58.200 --> 10:58.666 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 Obviously,

10:58.666 --> 10:59.633 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 there's a few

10:59.633 --> 11:01.533 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 a handful of swing states,

11:01.533 --> 11:02.266 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 the blue wall,

11:02.266 --> 11:02.933 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 if you will,

11:02.933 --> 11:03.766 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 that the Biden campaign

11:03.766 --> 11:04.066 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55%
 is paying

11:04.400 --> 11:05.400 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 a lot of attention to.

11:05.400 --> 11:05.966 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 I think there's a couple

11:05.966 --> 11:06.700 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 of things going on.

11:06.700 --> 11:08.333 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 One, Biden has an advantage

11:08.333 --> 11:09.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 that they have so much money

11:09.766 --> 11:10.133 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5%
 there.

11:10.400 --> 11:11.166 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 They're holding events

11:11.166 --> 11:12.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 as surrogates every other day.

11:12.700 --> 11:13.566 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 I mean, it's

11:13.566 --> 11:14.200 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 it's a little hard

11:14.200 --> 11:14.966 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 to keep up with,

11:14.966 --> 11:16.733 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 honestly, as a reporter

11:16.733 --> 11:17.266 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 and I don't know,

11:17.266 --> 11:17.933 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 I want to cover

11:17.933 --> 11:19.533 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 some of those surrogates.

11:19.533 --> 11:21.133 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 But that said,

11:21.133 --> 11:22.200 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 they they also

11:22.200 --> 11:23.266 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 Biden has an advantage

11:23.266 --> 11:24.066 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 that he's not

11:24.066 --> 11:26.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 forced to be in New York court

11:26.866 --> 11:28.566 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 several days a week.

11:28.566 --> 11:29.800 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 So he you know,

11:29.800 --> 11:30.666 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5%
 and his

11:30.666 --> 11:31.833 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 family in this case

11:31.833 --> 11:32.233 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55%
 can have

11:32.533 --> 11:33.333 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 a little more flexibility

11:33.333 --> 11:34.833 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 to be around the state.

11:34.833 --> 11:35.933 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 But obviously,

11:35.933 --> 11:37.200 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 Michigan is very important.

11:37.200 --> 11:39.300 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 And Biden himself

11:39.300 --> 11:40.500 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 coming to Detroit, where

11:40.500 --> 11:41.200 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 Jill Biden

11:41.200 --> 11:41.766 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5%
 or Doug

11:41.766 --> 11:42.666 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 Emhoff are ending

11:42.666 --> 11:44.566 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 their statewide tour.

11:44.566 --> 11:45.033 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 You know, that's

11:45.366 --> 11:46.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 sort of the big push this week.

11:46.900 --> 11:47.800 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 It's nice to be up

11:47.800 --> 11:48.433 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 in Marquette,

11:48.433 --> 11:49.766 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 in the Upper Peninsula.

11:49.766 --> 11:50.866 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 But Biden himself

11:50.866 --> 11:52.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 is making Detroit a priority

11:52.066 --> 11:53.466 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 for a very specific reason.

11:53.466 --> 11:54.500 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 Biden's coming to Michigan

11:54.500 --> 11:55.266 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 because he wants to win

11:55.266 --> 11:56.366 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 Michigan, certainly.

11:56.366 --> 11:57.400 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 But I also think this

11:57.400 --> 11:58.566 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 insulates him from,

11:58.566 --> 11:58.866 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55%
 you know,

11:59.333 --> 12:00.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 we saw after the 2016 election

12:00.966 --> 12:02.033 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 the backlash

12:02.033 --> 12:03.066 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 against Hillary Clinton.

12:03.066 --> 12:04.100 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 She felt she

12:04.100 --> 12:04.866 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 people said she didn't

12:04.866 --> 12:05.800 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 spend enough time here.

12:05.800 --> 12:06.166 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 She didn't

12:06.600 --> 12:07.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 put in enough ground game here.

12:07.500 --> 12:08.166 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 She didn't

12:08.166 --> 12:10.200 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 foresee the 11,000 vote

12:10.200 --> 12:11.100 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 margin that would hand it

12:11.100 --> 12:11.733 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 to her opponent

12:11.733 --> 12:12.600 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 and ultimately hand him

12:12.600 --> 12:13.600 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 the presidency.

12:13.600 --> 12:14.533 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 You know, to some extent,

12:14.533 --> 12:16.466 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 this is a CYA operation.

12:16.466 --> 12:16.833 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50%
 Well,

12:17.266 --> 12:18.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 some of the recent polling data

12:18.066 --> 12:18.700 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 shows that in

12:18.700 --> 12:20.100 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 Wisconsin, in Michigan,

12:20.100 --> 12:20.933 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 the race is a lot

12:20.933 --> 12:21.833 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 closer than it is

12:21.833 --> 12:23.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 in the other four swing states.

12:23.500 --> 12:24.866 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 So that's good news,

12:24.866 --> 12:26.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 you know, for the Biden folks,

12:26.300 --> 12:27.800 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 but they're not home free yet.

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 Yeah,

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 I think if there's anything

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 that can be elucidated

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 from those numbers,

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 you know, nearly six months out

12:31.866 --> 12:32.800 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 from the election,

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 it's that

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 there's a

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 somewhat of a gulf

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 that we're seeing between

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 registered voters

12:37.266 --> 12:38.266 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 and likely voters.

12:38.266 --> 12:39.200 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 And among likely voters,

12:39.200 --> 12:40.333 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 this gap is a lot shorter.

12:40.333 --> 12:41.066 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 But in that

12:41.066 --> 12:42.066 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 recent New York Times poll,

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 that Gulf is considerably wider

12:43.766 --> 12:45.233 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 among registered voters.

12:45.233 --> 12:45.833 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5%
 And so

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 I think that

12:46.533 --> 12:47.733 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 this really sort of shows

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 how much is going to come down

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 to voter enthusiasm

12:49.833 --> 12:50.600 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 and voter turnout.

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 And I think that

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 the amount of appearances

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 that you're having

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 from the Biden campaign really,

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 they want to underscore

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 that they're taking

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 nothing for granted

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 and how much they care about,

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 you know,

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 getting that turnout

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 machine running.

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 And to be clear,

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 I don't think they are.

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 I mean, going into the U.P.,

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 how often do we see

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 national candidates

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 campaigning in the U.P.?

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 How often do we see,

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 you know, Biden

13:09.033 --> 13:11.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 coming into this giant dinner?

13:11.166 --> 13:12.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 I think he's certainly looking

13:12.833 --> 13:13.266 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 to shore up

13:13.533 --> 13:14.433 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 the African American vote.

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 I really think that,

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 you know,

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 they're making a

13:16.666 --> 13:17.366 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 concentrated play

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 and they're really executing

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 a strategy to try to win here.

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 I think talking about strategy,

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 let's call in our guest today,

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 the superintendent of the LAnse

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 Creuse down in McComb County.

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 Erik, good morning.

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 Welcome to the record, sir.

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 Nice to see you.

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 All right.

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 So you heard our conversation.

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 Are we making,

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 too much of this dispute?

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 Do you think this is

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 just a

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 gentlemen and gentle

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 ladies disagreement

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 on how to fund schools?

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 Yes, I think this is all part

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 of the normal budget process

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 that occurs every year.

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 And always

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 the executive budget

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 comes first.

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 And it's a great budget.

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 It's the governor

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 has been a very strong

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 supporter of public education

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 and gotten us

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 great budgets over the past

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 several years.

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 But I think this is

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 just an opportunity

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 and kind of a promise

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 that was made to us

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 many years ago

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 that when certain

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 financial conditions were met,

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 that we would benefit

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 from the overpayments

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 we have been making

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 into the system

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 because the funding

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 has reached a level

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 at which

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 there's solvency

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 and it's over 100% funded.

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 So I think that

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 all three of the budgets

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 are very strong

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 and they have been strong

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 and now it's

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 just a matter of

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 kind of delineating priorities.

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 And I think

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 the conference process

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 is fairly

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 standard at this point.

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 But this really isn't

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 just about this year for us.

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 I don't see this

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 as a single year issue.

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 This really started in 2012

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 with Governor Snyder

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 when he enacted the plan

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 in order to create stability

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 in both the pension

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 and the OPEB.

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 And now that we've

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 achieved that,

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 I just see this

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 as a really

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 historic opportunity

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 for schools. Yes.

14:56.133 --> 14:57.200 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 But at the end of the day,

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 let's be honest here.

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 The governor has one plan

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 and you have another.

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 That is a disagreement,

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 is it not?

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 Well, right.

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 I mean,

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 but I think those types of

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 differences are common

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 even in years when there isn't.

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 I guess,

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 this substance

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 of an issue on the table.

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 So I think that,

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 you know, the House

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 and the Senate have frequently

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 and the executive

15:18.533 --> 15:19.266 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 had frequently

15:19.266 --> 15:20.033 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 had different

15:20.033 --> 15:21.266 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 budget priorities.

15:21.266 --> 15:23.733 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 And years past, even under

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 Democratic control

15:24.800 --> 15:25.800 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 or divided control

15:25.800 --> 15:27.366 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 previously to that.

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 So I think that this is a

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 this is a conversation.

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 This is one where we agree

15:31.800 --> 15:33.300 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 on many, many points.

15:33.300 --> 15:34.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 I think the governor was right

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 to raise the issue

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 in her budget

15:37.600 --> 15:39.366 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 back in January

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 when she released in February

15:41.300 --> 15:42.400 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 that when the over

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 funding of OPEB

15:43.233 --> 15:44.366 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 occurred, that

15:44.366 --> 15:45.733 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 seeing some action on

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 that makes sense.

15:47.133 --> 15:48.966 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 And I see this

15:48.966 --> 15:49.633 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 there's sort of three

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 legs to the stool

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 as as you've inferred

15:52.100 --> 15:53.000 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 and I think that there's

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 a benefit to employees

15:54.400 --> 15:55.800 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 there is possible here too

15:55.800 --> 15:58.566 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 that they've been paying 3%

15:58.566 --> 16:00.166 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 of their salaries of those

16:00.166 --> 16:01.700 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 in the traditional system.

16:01.700 --> 16:02.966 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 And I think there's a

16:02.966 --> 16:03.433 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 the promise

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 was made to them as well

16:04.566 --> 16:06.033 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 back at that time

16:06.033 --> 16:07.600 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 that once the funding occurred

16:07.600 --> 16:09.533 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 at a level of over

16:09.533 --> 16:11.066 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 much more than 100%,

16:11.066 --> 16:12.033 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 that they would benefit

16:12.033 --> 16:12.700 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 from not having

16:12.700 --> 16:14.333 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 to pay into it as well.

16:14.333 --> 16:15.400 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 You know, one of the things

16:15.400 --> 16:17.066 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 that I sort of see

16:17.066 --> 16:18.033 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 at the end of this

16:18.033 --> 16:19.733 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 argument is how flexible

16:19.733 --> 16:20.366 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 the funding

16:20.366 --> 16:22.166 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 you get ultimately is.

16:22.166 --> 16:22.666 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55%
 You know,

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 obviously

16:23.500 --> 16:24.133 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 the governor has

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 some priorities

16:24.766 --> 16:26.300 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 she'd like to fund.

16:26.300 --> 16:26.933 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 I'm sure you have

16:26.933 --> 16:27.933 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 your own priorities.

16:27.933 --> 16:30.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 So what kind of flexibility?

16:30.000 --> 16:30.700 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 How do you benefit

16:30.700 --> 16:31.666 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 from the flexibility

16:31.666 --> 16:33.033 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 that you're proposing?

16:33.033 --> 16:33.800 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50%
 Sure.

16:33.800 --> 16:34.500 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5%
 I think

16:34.500 --> 16:35.633 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 I think the more flexible

16:35.633 --> 16:36.600 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 dollars are,

16:36.600 --> 16:38.133 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 the more we can

16:38.133 --> 16:39.566 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 operationalize them

16:39.566 --> 16:40.800 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 based on individual needs.

16:40.800 --> 16:42.233 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 Of course,

16:42.233 --> 16:42.500 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55%
 you know,

16:42.833 --> 16:43.333 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 I think a lot of this

16:43.333 --> 16:43.866 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 has to do with

16:43.866 --> 16:44.566 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 what you also

16:44.566 --> 16:46.033 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 talked about before is

16:46.033 --> 16:48.466 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 we really were very,

16:48.466 --> 16:50.333 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 very proactive with us.

16:50.333 --> 16:50.900 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 Our dollars

16:50.900 --> 16:51.533 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 with dollars

16:51.533 --> 16:52.500 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 that came out of COVID

16:52.500 --> 16:54.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 and really focused on student

16:54.466 --> 16:55.666 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 needs, on mental health

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 needs, on student

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 support needs.

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 And those programs

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 are just starting

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 to gain traction.

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 And we have no expectation

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 that the dollars

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 that we're funding them

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 with now and in years past

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 are going to continue.

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 So I see this as opportunity

17:11.633 --> 17:13.666 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 to continue those programs

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 in a way

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 that they're just needed.

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 I know the money was one time

17:17.700 --> 17:18.433 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 we knew it was

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 going to be one time money.

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 There's no question about that.

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 But we all had to take a leap

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 of faith on the fact

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 that we needed these programs

17:27.666 --> 17:28.266 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55%
 for kids.

17:28.266 --> 17:28.966 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55%
 And kids

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 desperately needed support

17:30.633 --> 17:32.300 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 coming out of the pandemic.

17:32.300 --> 17:34.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 So I think that any opportunity

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 of flexibility of funds,

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 this is one source.

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 There are others.

17:38.466 --> 17:39.133 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 The foundation

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 grant is another.

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 All of those sources need to be

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 looked at to address

17:43.600 --> 17:44.300 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 shortfalls

17:44.300 --> 17:45.333 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 that are going to occur

17:45.333 --> 17:46.500 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 and are occurring because of

17:46.500 --> 17:48.766 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 the loss of ESSER dollars.

17:48.766 --> 17:50.266 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55%
 You know.

17:50.266 --> 17:51.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 While this was an opportunity

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 made available to you

17:52.300 --> 17:53.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 because of these overpayments

17:53.433 --> 17:54.233 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 in the past,

17:54.233 --> 17:55.533 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 this additional flexibility

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 in spending,

17:56.833 --> 17:58.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 clearly it's not an opportunity

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 that can go into the future

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 perpetually.

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 Do you want to see a long term

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 structural change

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 that can make

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 more sustainable differences

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 in terms of

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 how the funding is allocated?

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 Sure, of course.

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 I mean, I think

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 I think that it is

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 should be looked at in terms of

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 if it's over

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 100% funded on a year

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 by year basis,

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 then the benefit should occur

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 to the parties

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 that were making

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 the overpayments.

18:24.966 --> 18:25.700 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 So I you know,

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 I think we agree

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 with Senator

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 Albert's plan overall,

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 looking at the 2038

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 deadline

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 of paying off the system

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 of following the plan

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 as it was enacted

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 for both the pension sign

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 and the OPEB sign

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 side of it.

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 And the OPEB,

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 according to the numbers

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 that exist today,

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 will remain

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 funded

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 at above 100%

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 through the duration

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 of the payoff period.

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 And if that remains the case,

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 then I think that

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 the normal cost

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 should be the payment

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 that districts make.

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 We are still making normal

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 cost payments.

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 We're making the 100% payments.

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 And if that ever were to be

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 sink below that 100% again,

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 then we should pay

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 to make it go over 100%.

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 But I don't

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 I don't think that's forecast.

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 And I think this

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 is a sustainable model

19:13.733 --> 19:16.333 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 through the payoff period.

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 Erik,

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 there's been a lot of talk

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 about this idea

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 of a COVID cliff, right?

19:19.733 --> 19:21.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 All these extra federal dollars

19:21.466 --> 19:22.633 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 are running out.

19:22.633 --> 19:23.633 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 Some of that money came

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 through the state

19:24.333 --> 19:25.733 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 that's running out.

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 How real of a cliff is that?

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 Are you guys

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 staring at a cliff?

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 Our districts around the state

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 and is that cliff this summer

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 as the budgeting process

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 occurs?

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 Yes, I think for some,

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 unfortunately, it's a cliff.

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 And for others it's a

19:41.300 --> 19:43.366 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 it's a it's a hill.

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 It's a hill

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 that is is somewhat steep

19:46.366 --> 19:47.400 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 or somewhat

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 not or somewhat slow.

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 But in all cases,

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 there is a shortfall

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 of positions that were funded

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 or programs that were funded

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 with those dollars.

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 And decisions

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 have to be made

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 as to how to continue them,

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 maybe pull them back

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 or slow them down

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 or discontinue them.

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 And all of those are

20:08.633 --> 20:10.566 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 challenging decisions.

20:10.566 --> 20:12.200 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 When you know

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 they have only been enacted for

20:14.066 --> 20:15.566 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 1 to 3 years.

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 And of course, you don't know

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 how the state budget

20:17.366 --> 20:18.400 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 is going to be resolved

20:18.400 --> 20:19.100 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 yet, Right.

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 So I'm sure that complicates

20:20.200 --> 20:20.866 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5%
 things.

20:20.866 --> 20:21.966 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 Just talk a little bit

20:21.966 --> 20:22.266 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 about, though,

20:22.533 --> 20:23.066 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 the mental health

20:23.066 --> 20:23.400 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 side of things.

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 You said you guys have made

20:24.500 --> 20:25.700 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 a concerted effort there.

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 Some of those positions

20:26.900 --> 20:27.900 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 I assume you hired

20:27.900 --> 20:29.033 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 were with this money

20:29.033 --> 20:29.833 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55%
 that came

20:29.833 --> 20:30.500 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 from the feds

20:30.500 --> 20:31.733 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 through the state, paid

20:31.733 --> 20:33.566 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 part of the salary.

20:33.566 --> 20:34.566 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 What did you do

20:34.566 --> 20:35.466 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 and what are you going

20:35.466 --> 20:36.566 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 to have to do now

20:36.566 --> 20:37.633 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 in terms of

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 counselors and psychologists

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 and mental health

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 professionals?

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 Yes.

20:42.166 --> 20:43.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 First of all, I think I want to

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 I want to wrap around

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 the issue

20:46.400 --> 20:48.700 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 of the OPEB overpayment

20:48.700 --> 20:50.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 and the additional UAL payments

20:50.866 --> 20:51.866 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 we make that

20:51.866 --> 20:53.100 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 we are committed to doing

20:53.100 --> 20:54.166 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 and have been

20:54.166 --> 20:55.500 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 into sort of a tax

20:55.500 --> 20:56.366 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 that we have to pay

20:56.366 --> 20:57.400 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 on these types

20:57.400 --> 20:59.100 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 of of all employees.

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 You know,

20:59.733 --> 21:01.200 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 it's really a 21% tax.

21:01.200 --> 21:01.800 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 We pay over

21:01.800 --> 21:02.733 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 and above the salary

21:02.733 --> 21:03.700 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 of all of our employees,

21:03.700 --> 21:05.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 which makes a very tight labor

21:05.533 --> 21:07.100 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 market for us

21:07.100 --> 21:08.300 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 even more challenging

21:08.300 --> 21:09.400 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 and competitive.

21:09.400 --> 21:10.100 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 You know, we're trying

21:10.100 --> 21:10.800 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 to be competitive

21:10.800 --> 21:11.866 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 with these types

21:11.866 --> 21:13.200 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 of mental health professionals

21:13.200 --> 21:14.933 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 who do have

21:14.933 --> 21:16.400 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 more transitional skills

21:16.400 --> 21:17.566 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 outside of education.

21:17.566 --> 21:18.566 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 Unlike teachers

21:18.566 --> 21:19.333 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55%
 and other

21:19.333 --> 21:20.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 more traditional practitioners

21:20.766 --> 21:21.933 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 in education.

21:21.933 --> 21:22.566 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 So, you know, it's

21:22.566 --> 21:23.333 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 very challenging

21:23.333 --> 21:24.266 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 with these extra fees

21:24.266 --> 21:25.566 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 that we have to pay

21:25.566 --> 21:26.833 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 statutorily

21:26.833 --> 21:28.333 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 on top of their salaries.

21:28.333 --> 21:29.033 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 And I'll just say

21:29.033 --> 21:30.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 on the student support side,

21:30.433 --> 21:31.166 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
 these positions

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 have been vital.

21:31.966 --> 21:33.400 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 We made a very early commitment

21:33.400 --> 21:35.066 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
 and we did use the money

21:35.066 --> 21:35.966 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
 that is now down

21:35.966 --> 21:39.066 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 to 0% reimbursement of salaries

21:39.066 --> 21:39.966 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5%
 to add

21:39.966 --> 21:42.166 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 social workers, counselors.

21:42.166 --> 21:43.166 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 We added some other

21:43.166 --> 21:44.266 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 behavioral support

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 specialists to all to

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 our elementary schools as well,

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 all in order

21:49.166 --> 21:51.433 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
 to try to keep Tier one

21:51.433 --> 21:52.633 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 classroom teaching

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 moving forward

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 while we support kids

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 that need additional help.

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 And so we're just committed

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 to continuing that,

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 even though the funding is not

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 going to be there

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 from that source,

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 which is why we're looking

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 for other sources

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 to continue those

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 those positions.

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 You're you're lobbying

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 of the legislature,

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 particularly in the House,

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 to be in an election year

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 for them.

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 Do you play that card

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 in a subtle way

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 or a direct way

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 to basically say,

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 you know what,

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 if you'd like to get reelected

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 and you'd like our help,

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 we need a vote?

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 Well, I don't

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 know if it's that direct.

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 I think that it is.

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 I think that there is a lot of

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 actually there's a lot of

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 and there's a

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 kind of cohesiveness

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 in the end goal here.

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 The end goal is

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 we need to

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 focus on teaching and learning.

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 We need to focus on

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 core practices

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 in our classrooms.

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 But there are a

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 lot of distractions

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 that exist in schools

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 and a lot of

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 political distractions as well.

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 That we need

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 additional support

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 to make sure

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 that our core mission

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 can be completed.

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 And I think,

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 with all due respect,

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 by the same

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 token, the people

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 on the other side of the table

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 need to get reelected.

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 You can help them.

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 Right?

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 You know,

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 I'll be honest with you, I,

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 I personally have worked

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 very hard

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 to depoliticize

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 our schools, both externally

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 and internally

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 through the entire pre-COVID,

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 during COVID and post-COVID.

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 And I am

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 I am for anyone

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 who is

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 supporting the mission

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 of public schools.

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 And I really think

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 that they should be

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 as depoliticized as possible.

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 And we've seen that, too.

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 We've seen that

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 we've seen support

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 from a variety of individuals

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 within our county,

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 within our K-12 alliance.

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 As far as Republicans

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 and Democrats

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 who are

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 supportive of public schools.

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 And those are candidates

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 that we're supportive of.

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 In terms of the funding

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 that we discussed earlier

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 or the Hill,

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 as you described, that,

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 you know,

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 how much danger is there

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 to you and your school board

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 that you get blowback

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 from the community

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 who didn't

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 necessarily understand

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 that this was

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 one time funding or funding

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 that wouldn't be available,

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 that bolstering

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 some of the programs

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 you're proud of?

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 Certainly, I think that that is

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 it's not just perception, it's

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 actual service to students.

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 And I think that that's

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 the more critical piece that

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 we you know,

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 every time you add

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 something into a system,

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 people become reliant on that

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 and it becomes

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 part of the normal

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 operation of the system.

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 So I think it's both to

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 parents expectations.

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 It's our own.

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 It's the rest of our staff's

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 expectations.

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 Teachers had really been asked

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 to do more and more and more,

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 and their jobs

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 have become

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 objectively

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 and perceptively

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 more challenging.

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 And so all of these positions

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 are to assist our classroom

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 teachers as well

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 so they can focus on their job.

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 So I think it's expanded

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 beyond just parental

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 potential blowback.

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 It's it's it's issues

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 within our own workforce

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 as well

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 that they are

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 they expect

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 and need these supports.

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 and need these supports.

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 Now, ultimately,

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 somebody can say to you,

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 look at you can raise

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 all the revenue you want,

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 just go to a bonding proposal.

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 You don't need the lawmakers.

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 Well, I think that,

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 you know,

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 that's

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 unfortunately in Michigan

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 since 1994,

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 we have this sort

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 of bifurcated system

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 where our general fund is

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 all that can be used

25:10.733 --> 25:11.766 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
 to support

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 salaries

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 and operational dollars

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 and bonding

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 can only be used for

25:16.633 --> 25:18.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
 capital costs and capital needs

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 and construction and whatnot.

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 So, you know,

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 that's always been sort of the

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 the double edged

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 sword of proposal A

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 that it created the system that

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 that quite frankly, is

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 is is very unique,

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 I'll say, in Michigan

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 compared to other states that,

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 you know,

25:35.833 --> 25:36.400 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
 we don't have

25:36.400 --> 25:37.100 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
 the option of just

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 asking our local communities

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 to support staff directly

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 or to support

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 certain positions directly.

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 And I think, you know,

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 I think that's

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 something long term

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 that needs to be looked at.

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 You know,

25:48.866 --> 25:49.966 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
 that's always talked about.

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 You know,

25:50.533 --> 25:51.166 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
 we always talk about

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 around the edges

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 and around the fringes,

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 but that might be

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 the core issue

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 that we're really

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 need to address long term.

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 Mr.

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 Superintendent,

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 good to see you.

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 Best wishes

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 to all our friends

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 down in McComb County.

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 And we appreciate

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 your being on the program also,

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 our thanks to our panel

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 next week right here.

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