WEBVTT 00:00.033 --> 00:04.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Major funding for "Reporters 00:04.133 --> 00:04.766 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Roundtable" with David Cruz is 00:04.766 --> 00:05.833 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% provided by RWJBarnabas Health, 00:05.833 --> 00:10.066 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% let's be healthy together. 00:10.066 --> 00:10.500 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% ♪ 00:10.500 --> 00:29.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: It is true, elections 00:29.633 --> 00:30.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% have consequences, but have you 00:30.433 --> 00:31.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% seen these cabinet picks? 00:31.033 --> 00:34.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It is "Reporters Roundtable." 00:34.700 --> 00:36.200 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I'm David Cruz. 00:36.200 --> 00:39.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Colleen O'Dea is the senior 00:39.333 --> 00:40.833 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% writer and projects editor at NJ 00:40.833 --> 00:41.200 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Spotlight News. 00:41.200 --> 00:47.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Mr. Gibson is a reporter. 00:47.133 --> 00:50.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And Matt Friedman is the author 00:50.700 --> 00:51.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% of "the New Jersey playbook." 00:51.333 --> 00:53.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We will hear from the panel and 00:53.600 --> 00:56.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% a little bit, but let's begin 00:56.533 --> 00:58.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% today with the aftermath of last 00:58.633 --> 00:59.066 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% week's elections. 00:59.066 --> 01:01.500 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% What happened, what is happening 01:01.500 --> 01:02.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and what is happening? 01:02.033 --> 01:06.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We have a professor of political 01:06.266 --> 01:07.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% science at Rutgers University 01:07.300 --> 01:09.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and a senior scholar. 01:09.566 --> 01:13.666 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We are joined now by the 01:13.666 --> 01:13.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% professor. 01:13.933 --> 01:14.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Welcome back. 01:14.900 --> 01:15.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Good to see you. 01:15.266 --> 01:18.733 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Guest: Always good to see you, 01:18.733 --> 01:19.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% how are you? 01:19.033 --> 01:20.466 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: I'm hanging in there. 01:20.466 --> 01:22.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% These are special days. 01:22.333 --> 01:26.100 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Can we start with the que paso? 01:26.100 --> 01:29.100 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% What happened, was it message, 01:29.100 --> 01:30.200 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% messenger? 01:30.200 --> 01:33.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Guest: I feel like we should 01:33.333 --> 01:34.966 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% have on a Tara Reid or instead 01:34.966 --> 01:41.033 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% of a political -- tarot reader 01:41.033 --> 01:42.000 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% instead of a political 01:42.000 --> 01:42.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% professor. 01:42.266 --> 01:45.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% The polls, Democrats were 01:45.300 --> 01:45.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% mistaken in their belief that 01:45.900 --> 01:47.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% somehow the American electorate 01:47.900 --> 01:52.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% was ready to reject Donald 01:52.533 --> 01:54.100 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Trump a second time, and in 01:54.100 --> 01:58.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% hindsight, the favorables for 01:58.366 --> 02:01.200 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the Biden administration or the 02:01.200 --> 02:01.766 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% unfavorable's were two 02:01.766 --> 02:05.300 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% overweight -- too overwhelming 02:05.300 --> 02:06.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% to overcome. 02:06.033 --> 02:07.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% More significantly is this 02:07.533 --> 02:09.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% reality that the Trump 02:09.700 --> 02:13.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% phenomenon is really a movement 02:13.700 --> 02:16.500 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% that has altered potentially for 02:16.500 --> 02:18.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% some time but certainly for the 02:18.033 --> 02:19.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% time being altered of the way 02:19.533 --> 02:21.200 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the American electorate is 02:21.200 --> 02:24.833 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% participating and showing its 02:24.833 --> 02:25.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% displeasure. 02:25.133 --> 02:26.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% That is something that Democrats 02:26.166 --> 02:28.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% are going to have to deal with, 02:28.133 --> 02:28.666 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% at least for the immediate 02:28.666 --> 02:28.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% future. 02:28.900 --> 02:34.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: So a lot of chatting 02:34.300 --> 02:35.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% between and among Democrats over 02:35.900 --> 02:37.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% who was to blame. 02:37.900 --> 02:40.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I mean, we heard about the Black 02:40.166 --> 02:44.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% male exodus, but 70% of Black 02:44.900 --> 02:47.066 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% men voted for Harris. 02:47.066 --> 02:47.666 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Is it time for a conversation 02:47.666 --> 02:49.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% with white women in the 02:49.966 --> 02:50.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Democratic Party? 02:50.366 --> 02:57.833 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Guest: I've been saying that, 02:57.833 --> 03:00.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and a lot of my clients have 03:00.966 --> 03:02.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% talked about that effect. 03:02.166 --> 03:04.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It is hard to go to Black men 03:04.900 --> 03:06.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and barbershops, not that I want 03:06.366 --> 03:08.500 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% to go to barbershops these days. 03:08.500 --> 03:09.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% That's besides the point. 03:09.366 --> 03:12.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It is hard to go up to Black men 03:12.266 --> 03:13.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% in barbershops, and they have 03:13.533 --> 03:15.300 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% essentially voted the same way 03:15.300 --> 03:15.933 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% the past elections with slight 03:15.933 --> 03:16.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% slippage. 03:16.233 --> 03:18.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And then look at white women 03:18.966 --> 03:20.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% around the country, who have 03:20.233 --> 03:22.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% continue to support the majority 03:22.133 --> 03:23.766 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% of Donald Trump. 03:23.766 --> 03:25.666 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% That is just the political 03:25.666 --> 03:26.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% reality that Democrats are going 03:26.300 --> 03:28.900 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% to have to face, and that is a 03:28.900 --> 03:29.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% conversation. 03:29.233 --> 03:31.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I'm not so sure Democrats would 03:31.266 --> 03:34.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% like to have it's because 03:34.700 --> 03:35.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% they seem to be running away 03:35.266 --> 03:36.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% from that and are far more 03:36.300 --> 03:38.066 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% comfortable pointing a finger at 03:38.066 --> 03:38.833 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Black men. 03:38.833 --> 03:42.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: As a Black friend said to 03:42.300 --> 03:43.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% me the other day, it was "you 03:43.533 --> 03:46.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% people," meaning Latinos, who 03:46.533 --> 03:47.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% went for Trump. 03:47.633 --> 03:52.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Guest: Look, I think this comes 03:52.433 --> 03:54.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% down to a basic point, and that 03:54.133 --> 03:56.133 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% is you have to offer something 03:56.133 --> 03:57.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% beyond -- I'm calling it a 03:57.966 --> 04:02.966 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% comma, a comma beyond the idea 04:02.966 --> 04:04.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% of we are not going back. 04:04.566 --> 04:05.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% You have to offer something 04:05.133 --> 04:07.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% affirmative. 04:07.900 --> 04:09.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And working-class people, be 04:09.166 --> 04:10.966 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% they Latino, African-American, 04:10.966 --> 04:13.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% white working-class, whatever 04:13.300 --> 04:13.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% label you put on it, you have to 04:13.966 --> 04:16.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% offer something, a comma, not 04:16.366 --> 04:19.766 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% a period of we are not going 04:19.766 --> 04:20.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% back, and that was missing from 04:20.933 --> 04:21.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the Harris campaign. 04:21.366 --> 04:25.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% In the Latino or Hispanic 04:25.533 --> 04:29.100 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% population, such as it is and 04:29.100 --> 04:29.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% diverse as it is across the 04:29.700 --> 04:31.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% country, nevertheless, we are 04:31.700 --> 04:34.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% looking for more of a 04:34.866 --> 04:35.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% transformation from what we have 04:35.566 --> 04:37.133 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% been giving over the last four 04:37.133 --> 04:37.400 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5%   years. 04:37.400 --> 04:40.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% That is not to knock with the 04:40.966 --> 04:41.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Biden administration 04:41.433 --> 04:44.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% accomplished, but if people are 04:44.233 --> 04:45.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% not feeling it, you have to have 04:45.533 --> 04:46.166 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% a message that makes them feel 04:46.166 --> 04:46.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% it. 04:46.366 --> 04:48.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: You have to have it in 04:48.300 --> 04:48.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the gut. 04:48.733 --> 04:54.000 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% This cabinet, meanwhile, 04:54.000 --> 04:54.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Secretary Of State, Marco Rubio, 04:54.866 --> 04:56.200 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Attorney General, Matt Gaetz? 04:56.200 --> 04:57.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Tulsi Gabbard heading up the 04:57.700 --> 04:57.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% CIA? 04:57.866 --> 05:01.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I mean, it feels like The 05:01.366 --> 05:05.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Apprentice: White House edition. 05:05.633 --> 05:08.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Guest: It is a bit of a clown 05:08.633 --> 05:12.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% car kind of scenario, if you 05:12.533 --> 05:13.200 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% have been to the circus and you 05:13.200 --> 05:14.466 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% see them get out one after the 05:14.466 --> 05:17.366 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% other, but that kind of -- you 05:17.366 --> 05:20.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% know, I don't know, analysis, 05:20.733 --> 05:24.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% let's call it that, belies a 05:24.900 --> 05:25.800 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% fundamental point Democrats need 05:25.800 --> 05:26.066 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% to learn. 05:26.066 --> 05:27.800 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% That is Republicans go for what 05:27.800 --> 05:28.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% they want. 05:28.166 --> 05:30.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% You know? 05:30.033 --> 05:32.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Trump certainly goes for what he 05:32.300 --> 05:32.500 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% wants. 05:32.500 --> 05:36.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He is not fully around, offering 05:36.133 --> 05:36.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% up some centrist vision. 05:36.633 --> 05:40.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He is telling you, I have a 05:40.600 --> 05:46.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% clear and distinguished and 05:46.033 --> 05:46.800 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% discernible vision that is 05:46.800 --> 05:47.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% markedly different from what 05:47.366 --> 05:47.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Democrats are offering. 05:47.866 --> 05:49.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And here are my people. 05:49.233 --> 05:52.066 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And that kind of strength, 05:52.066 --> 05:55.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% however bizarre and challenging 05:55.300 --> 05:56.133 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% it may be, I'm using all kinds 05:56.133 --> 05:59.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% of euphemisms, but however 05:59.366 --> 06:03.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% challenging it may be, people 06:03.733 --> 06:04.366 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% respond to that clarity, and I 06:04.366 --> 06:05.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% was just in Princeton the other 06:05.033 --> 06:07.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% night getting a talk, talking 06:07.033 --> 06:07.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% about clarity. 06:07.366 --> 06:11.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Voters would like clarification, 06:11.366 --> 06:11.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% they prefer the binary. 06:11.866 --> 06:14.633 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% If you are going to give them, 06:14.633 --> 06:16.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% particularly when you feel 06:16.700 --> 06:17.833 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% financial pain, if you are going 06:17.833 --> 06:18.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% to give them a wishy-washy 06:18.566 --> 06:20.666 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% message, they are going to let 06:20.666 --> 06:21.066 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% you know about it. 06:21.066 --> 06:27.666 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Republicans showed a 06:27.666 --> 06:28.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% commitment to the bit. 06:28.433 --> 06:30.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Guest: Absolutely. 06:30.333 --> 06:32.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: They said it and that is 06:32.233 --> 06:34.200 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% where they went. 06:34.200 --> 06:35.233 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Let me get a panel question in 06:35.233 --> 06:35.466 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the air. 06:35.466 --> 06:39.800 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> The question that I have here 06:39.800 --> 06:43.633 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% is how do you think this date, 06:43.633 --> 06:46.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Craddock party here reckons with 06:46.566 --> 06:48.766 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% its reputation for political 06:48.766 --> 06:51.733 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% corruption at the intersection 06:51.733 --> 06:54.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% of voter apathy and some 06:54.600 --> 06:55.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% demoralization? 06:55.733 --> 07:00.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Guest: Well, A, let's hope they 07:00.900 --> 07:01.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% do reckon with it. 07:01.300 --> 07:05.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% There is a lot of heads being 07:05.733 --> 07:08.500 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% put in the sand on these kinds 07:08.500 --> 07:10.800 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% of questions over the last 07:10.800 --> 07:11.800 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% number of years, and I think 07:11.800 --> 07:14.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Democrats in the state are going 07:14.033 --> 07:17.500 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% to have to, again, have an 07:17.500 --> 07:18.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% affirmative and clear vision of 07:18.133 --> 07:18.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% how they are going to be 07:18.933 --> 07:19.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% markedly different from what has 07:19.566 --> 07:20.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80%   come. 07:20.633 --> 07:23.500 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And I would suggest that whoever 07:23.500 --> 07:25.100 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% is running for the governorship 07:25.100 --> 07:25.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% is going to have to take a 07:25.933 --> 07:30.066 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% strong outsider's approach to 07:30.066 --> 07:30.700 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% absolving issues of corruption 07:30.700 --> 07:32.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% in New Jersey. 07:32.266 --> 07:35.733 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% It does present an opening for 07:35.733 --> 07:36.366 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% someone on the Republican side 07:36.366 --> 07:37.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% to step in. 07:37.233 --> 07:41.400 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% So the language Democrats uses 07:41.400 --> 07:42.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% important. 07:42.033 --> 07:43.766 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% People would like to be talked 07:43.766 --> 07:44.066 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% to straight. 07:44.066 --> 07:47.066 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% That has always been clear. 07:47.066 --> 07:47.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It has never been more clear 07:47.633 --> 07:47.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% that now. 07:47.900 --> 07:52.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% -- than now.Hanging 07:52.600 --> 07:55.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% gold bars around your neck is a 07:55.933 --> 07:57.100 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% party is not where you would 07:57.100 --> 07:57.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% like to be in 2025. 07:57.733 --> 08:01.733 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% David: Republican president is 08:01.733 --> 08:03.800 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% supposed to be good for Democrat 08:03.800 --> 08:04.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% 's run for governor the 08:04.333 --> 08:06.800 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% following year, but there is an 08:06.800 --> 08:08.433 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% interesting dynamic in the way 08:08.433 --> 08:08.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% both parties think. 08:08.866 --> 08:12.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% The GOP contending with its 08:12.333 --> 08:14.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% right wing and the Democrats 08:14.300 --> 08:16.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% contending with their left wing. 08:16.233 --> 08:20.366 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Is that something we are going 08:20.366 --> 08:20.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% to see manifest over the next 08:20.966 --> 08:21.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% year? 08:21.166 --> 08:26.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Guest: Well, it appears to be 08:26.933 --> 08:27.200 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the case. 08:27.200 --> 08:28.133 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% People are throwing around the 08:28.133 --> 08:31.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% term populism, and I think that 08:31.333 --> 08:31.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% is sort of where we are. 08:31.866 --> 08:36.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Voters would like clear, 08:36.333 --> 08:37.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% discernible choices. 08:37.133 --> 08:40.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% That may be further to the left 08:40.566 --> 08:42.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% then what we are use to, and it 08:42.133 --> 08:42.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% may be further to the right than 08:42.933 --> 08:43.766 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% what we are used to. 08:43.766 --> 08:49.066 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% So I think the positioning for 08:49.066 --> 08:51.166 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% the center, which normally and 08:51.166 --> 08:52.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% ordinary politics may say great 08:52.566 --> 08:53.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% deal of sense, we talk about the 08:53.700 --> 08:56.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% median voter and political 08:56.300 --> 08:56.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% science all the time, I don't 08:56.966 --> 08:59.966 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% know where the hell the median 08:59.966 --> 09:00.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% voter is anymore. 09:00.433 --> 09:03.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% That is something Democrats and 09:03.966 --> 09:04.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Republicans are reckoning with. 09:04.600 --> 09:09.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And identify not so much the 09:09.233 --> 09:11.066 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% centrist edition but finding 09:11.066 --> 09:12.100 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% where the people are. 09:12.100 --> 09:13.833 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% That median voter has shifted, 09:13.833 --> 09:16.666 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and we have got to be honest 09:16.666 --> 09:17.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% about that and find a way, both 09:17.966 --> 09:20.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% parties and certainly Democrats, 09:20.900 --> 09:21.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% will have to find a way to meet 09:21.633 --> 09:23.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% voters where they are. 09:23.300 --> 09:25.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% That is at a high level of 09:25.266 --> 09:25.766 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% dissatisfaction with the 09:25.766 --> 09:26.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% political system. 09:26.166 --> 09:28.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: And that is going to make 09:28.900 --> 09:29.466 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% for some interesting debates 09:29.466 --> 09:31.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% going forward, particularly with 09:31.700 --> 09:33.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the lineup on the Democratic 09:33.233 --> 09:34.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% side and Republican side. 09:34.433 --> 09:36.833 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I mean, the Republicans have 09:36.833 --> 09:40.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% some, you know, right wingers 09:40.566 --> 09:43.200 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% ready to capitalize off the 09:43.200 --> 09:45.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Trump affect, and the Democrats 09:45.300 --> 09:48.033 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% have some progressives who are 09:48.033 --> 09:49.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% ready to embrace that side of 09:49.033 --> 09:50.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the party. 09:50.133 --> 09:54.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Guest: It is true. 09:54.266 --> 09:56.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Although, I will say for New 09:56.966 --> 09:57.800 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Jersey, I don't think we are 09:57.800 --> 09:59.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% going to see the kind of 09:59.533 --> 10:01.666 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% gubernatorial candidates emerge 10:01.666 --> 10:04.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% that did in Georgia with 10:04.600 --> 10:05.533 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Herschel Walker or Robinson in 10:05.533 --> 10:06.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% North Carolina. 10:06.266 --> 10:10.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We are still the state of New 10:10.700 --> 10:12.500 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Jersey, and it is still going to 10:12.500 --> 10:15.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% be closer to what Jack 10:15.533 --> 10:16.466 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% represented the last go around 10:16.466 --> 10:18.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% then Herschel Walker or someone 10:18.633 --> 10:22.066 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% really, you know, far field. 10:22.066 --> 10:22.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% That would be my guess. 10:22.566 --> 10:27.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I should do a shot here for all 10:27.266 --> 10:27.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the times I've been wrong and 10:27.900 --> 10:32.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% maybe this video will be burned 10:32.733 --> 10:34.500 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% a year from now. 10:34.500 --> 10:38.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% But I do suspect however far 10:38.366 --> 10:40.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% right the Republicans go, it 10:40.566 --> 10:41.766 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% will not be to that degree we 10:41.766 --> 10:43.100 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% have seen in other places south 10:43.100 --> 10:43.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% of us. 10:43.300 --> 10:46.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Interesting, Saladin 10:46.566 --> 10:49.900 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Ambar, always good to see you. 10:49.900 --> 10:50.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Thank you for coming on. 10:50.433 --> 10:52.733 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Guest: I appreciate you having 10:52.733 --> 10:52.966 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5%   me. 10:52.966 --> 10:53.400 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Have a good one. 10:53.400 --> 10:57.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Panel, welcome to you 10:57.866 --> 10:58.100 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% all. 10:58.100 --> 10:58.666 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We've had another week of 10:58.666 --> 11:04.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% analysis and pundantry on 11:04.900 --> 11:05.200 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the results. 11:05.200 --> 11:10.400 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Is there any sense of the theory 11:10.400 --> 11:11.100 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% that one Democrat is winning 11:11.100 --> 11:11.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% over the other, Matt? 11:11.733 --> 11:15.000 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Matt: there is never going to be 11:15.000 --> 11:16.666 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% a simple explanation. 11:16.666 --> 11:19.233 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% I think it was interesting the 11:19.233 --> 11:22.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% professor mentioned people want 11:22.233 --> 11:24.400 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% binary, there's no simple 11:24.400 --> 11:26.000 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% explanation but it is telling 11:26.000 --> 11:28.533 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% and it is an unfortunate state 11:28.533 --> 11:29.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% of affairs because I think 11:29.333 --> 11:30.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Democrats are doing what you 11:30.533 --> 11:32.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% hope the party would do, look at 11:32.566 --> 11:33.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% their loss, try to figure out 11:33.166 --> 11:36.000 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% why, try to figure out what 11:36.000 --> 11:38.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% message they are not sending, 11:38.133 --> 11:39.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% policy wise with a miss, what 11:39.866 --> 11:42.333 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% they emphasized, what they did 11:42.333 --> 11:45.900 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% not, there is finger-pointing, 11:45.900 --> 11:46.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% but that is democracy and it is 11:46.533 --> 11:46.800 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80%   messy. 11:46.800 --> 11:49.566 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Four years ago, Trump lost the 11:49.566 --> 11:51.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% election, refused to acknowledge 11:51.266 --> 11:54.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% that, double down on it, fought 11:54.933 --> 11:56.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% it, rioted, attempted to 11:56.266 --> 11:56.833 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% overturn the election from 11:56.833 --> 12:01.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% lawful and peaceful means to 12:01.033 --> 12:02.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% what we saw January 6. 12:02.866 --> 12:06.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And it is not what you would 12:06.133 --> 12:07.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% hope to see in democracy, but it 12:07.333 --> 12:07.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% works. 12:07.533 --> 12:07.800 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% [LAUGHTER] 12:07.800 --> 12:09.000 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And here they are. 12:09.000 --> 12:11.600 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% So, I think we have to look at 12:11.600 --> 12:14.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% that and get past the idea that 12:14.266 --> 12:15.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% -- we are trained as journalists 12:15.633 --> 12:15.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% to be fair. 12:15.933 --> 12:18.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% But being fair, you are not 12:18.300 --> 12:20.066 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% being fair if you are treating 12:20.066 --> 12:22.066 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% both sides that are not the 12:22.066 --> 12:22.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80%   same. 12:22.333 --> 12:25.400 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% One party is acting like this is 12:25.400 --> 12:25.666 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% democracy. 12:25.666 --> 12:28.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% The other did not. 12:28.433 --> 12:29.000 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% But that is the thing about 12:29.000 --> 12:31.100 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% democracy, they won 12:31.100 --> 12:32.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% legitimately. 12:32.600 --> 12:34.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Also, I'm so sick of people lift 12:34.866 --> 12:37.466 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% these French-French voices off 12:37.466 --> 12:40.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% twitter and whatever -- fringe, 12:40.433 --> 12:42.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% fringe voices off twitter and 12:42.700 --> 12:45.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% whatever saying Democrats 12:45.366 --> 12:46.000 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% are denying the election, too. 12:46.000 --> 12:46.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% You are not. 12:46.566 --> 12:50.566 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% It is the fringe voices versus 12:50.566 --> 12:51.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the whole apparatus of the party 12:51.233 --> 12:51.500 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% last time. 12:51.500 --> 12:55.466 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Colleen, anything new 12:55.466 --> 12:56.133 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% that you learned over the past 12:56.133 --> 13:00.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% two weeks from the conversations 13:00.366 --> 13:00.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% , particularly Democrats, are 13:00.966 --> 13:02.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% having? 13:02.033 --> 13:05.566 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Colleen: I think Matt is right 13:05.566 --> 13:08.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% on target when he says, it is 13:08.333 --> 13:09.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% like you could have a dartboard, 13:09.733 --> 13:12.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% throw a dart and see where it 13:12.633 --> 13:13.666 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% sticks because there are so many 13:13.666 --> 13:14.066 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% potential factors. 13:14.066 --> 13:17.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Ultimately, it wound up being 13:17.733 --> 13:21.566 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% the economy and we do not know 13:21.566 --> 13:24.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% what to say, but I just saw that 13:24.600 --> 13:28.500 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Frank Pallone, a congressman, 13:28.500 --> 13:29.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% put out a statement moments ago, 13:29.733 --> 13:31.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% saying that talking about money 13:31.566 --> 13:33.666 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% coming in from the inflation 13:33.666 --> 13:36.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% reduction act, I think Democrats 13:36.300 --> 13:39.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% thinking that those kinds of 13:39.733 --> 13:40.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% expenditures would help when 13:40.300 --> 13:43.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% people were having trouble 13:43.366 --> 13:47.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% putting milk and bread and eggs, 13:47.733 --> 13:48.766 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% just certainly, that was kind of 13:48.766 --> 13:49.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% a crazy way to think. 13:49.233 --> 13:53.766 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% David: A lot of about identity 13:53.766 --> 13:55.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and all of that stuff, but, 13:55.133 --> 13:57.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% ultimately, if it costs too much 13:57.933 --> 14:00.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% to put Breck on the table, that 14:00.166 --> 14:02.200 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% it -- breakfast on the table, 14:02.200 --> 14:03.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% that is what people are going to 14:03.366 --> 14:03.766 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% vote with, right? 14:03.766 --> 14:15.666 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Jelani: to be frank, one could 14:15.666 --> 14:17.000 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% argue that it is identity 14:17.000 --> 14:17.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% politics, structured around 14:17.566 --> 14:20.000 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% people who have grievances that 14:20.000 --> 14:22.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% belong to either a certain 14:22.033 --> 14:24.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% ideology or community or 14:24.566 --> 14:24.833 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% identity. 14:24.833 --> 14:27.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And the interesting thing about 14:27.533 --> 14:29.766 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% politics here is that being a 14:29.766 --> 14:31.500 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Republican and being a Democrat 14:31.500 --> 14:35.100 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% within this spectrum and 14:35.100 --> 14:36.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% political polarization has 14:36.033 --> 14:37.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% essentially become a form of 14:37.700 --> 14:40.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% identity politics all unto 14:40.033 --> 14:41.766 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% itself. 14:41.766 --> 14:46.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Republicans are doing this, the 14:46.633 --> 14:49.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% liberals are doing that to you, 14:49.733 --> 14:52.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% all of those things in and of 14:52.300 --> 14:54.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% themselves are, indeed, 14:54.633 --> 14:55.200 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% political identity politics. 14:55.200 --> 14:58.833 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Identity politics are quite 14:58.833 --> 14:59.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% frankly very hard to separate 14:59.433 --> 15:04.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% from economic issues because you 15:04.633 --> 15:05.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% may have different identities 15:05.233 --> 15:08.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% that experience different 15:08.633 --> 15:10.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% spectrums of the economy that 15:10.733 --> 15:12.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% are tied to the way they are 15:12.366 --> 15:12.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% living. 15:12.600 --> 15:16.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% You go down south, which is 15:16.366 --> 15:17.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% where I'm from, and you speak to 15:17.900 --> 15:21.666 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% a conservative Christian, their 15:21.666 --> 15:22.300 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% religion is important to them. 15:22.300 --> 15:24.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Their grocery store is important 15:24.733 --> 15:24.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% to them. 15:24.966 --> 15:27.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And how they perceive things are 15:27.866 --> 15:32.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% going on, both of them are 15:32.333 --> 15:32.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% intrinsically attached to one 15:32.933 --> 15:33.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% another. 15:33.166 --> 15:36.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Meanwhile, these cabinet 15:36.866 --> 15:38.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% picks, Colleen, I mean, 15:38.533 --> 15:40.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Secretary Of State -- [LAUGHTER] 15:40.866 --> 15:43.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Marco Rubio? 15:43.600 --> 15:45.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Colleen: Little Marco. 15:45.366 --> 15:47.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% How long ago was it? 15:47.600 --> 15:50.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It seems like it was not that 15:50.433 --> 15:53.966 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% long ago, that Rubio and Trump 15:53.966 --> 15:56.066 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% were just butting heads and say 15:56.066 --> 15:56.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% nasty things about one another. 15:56.700 --> 15:59.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And now we think he is Secretary 15:59.300 --> 15:59.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Of State material. 15:59.700 --> 16:02.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I think we knew that Robert 16:02.566 --> 16:05.833 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Kennedy Junior for Health and 16:05.833 --> 16:06.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Human Services was coming. 16:06.366 --> 16:10.533 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% David: That is like the least, 16:10.533 --> 16:11.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% that is the least shocking I 16:11.566 --> 16:11.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% think of -- 16:11.933 --> 16:13.066 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Colleen: It is. 16:13.066 --> 16:14.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Of the picks. 16:14.533 --> 16:17.666 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I mean Congressman Matt Gaetz 16:17.666 --> 16:18.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% for Attorney General? 16:18.233 --> 16:20.500 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I mean, Matt? 16:20.500 --> 16:25.766 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Colleen: It looks like he gets 16:25.766 --> 16:32.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% out of a house investigation for 16:32.600 --> 16:33.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% an underage person and drug use? 16:33.266 --> 16:35.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Loyalty, oathDavid:s are 16:35.566 --> 16:38.833 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% one thing, but the palace 16:38.833 --> 16:39.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% intrigue alone, it would be 16:39.633 --> 16:41.000 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% delicious if it was not so 16:41.000 --> 16:42.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Frank. 16:42.033 --> 16:45.100 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Matt: Our information 16:45.100 --> 16:46.200 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% environment is so broken, and 16:46.200 --> 16:49.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% this election was a failing for 16:49.366 --> 16:51.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the media, and I don't mean 16:51.333 --> 16:53.433 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% journalists but the news media 16:53.433 --> 16:53.833 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% in general. 16:53.833 --> 16:54.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We don't know where we are. 16:54.433 --> 16:55.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It is hard to discover the 16:55.933 --> 16:56.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% truth. 16:56.133 --> 16:58.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% The fact that we spent how many 16:58.733 --> 17:02.766 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% years with QAnon conspiracies 17:02.766 --> 17:04.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and six offenders, and everybody 17:04.300 --> 17:06.633 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% is a six offender it seems, -- 17:06.633 --> 17:09.500 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and with sex offenders, everyone 17:09.500 --> 17:14.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% is a sex offender it seems, and 17:14.900 --> 17:15.833 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% except for Matt Gaetz, who will 17:15.833 --> 17:17.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% potentially be the nation;s top 17:17.366 --> 17:20.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% law -- nation's top law 17:20.366 --> 17:20.666 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% official? 17:20.666 --> 17:21.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% What are we getting to? 17:21.966 --> 17:24.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It is completely diffused and 17:24.533 --> 17:26.200 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% there is no kind of standard of 17:26.200 --> 17:26.800 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% anything resembling the truth 17:26.800 --> 17:28.500 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% now, and I think that is kind of 17:28.500 --> 17:30.733 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% hard of how authoritarians are 17:30.733 --> 17:30.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% built. 17:30.933 --> 17:35.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% You just throw so much crap out 17:35.633 --> 17:37.066 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% there, and Steve Bannon 17:37.066 --> 17:37.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% articulated this theory. 17:37.566 --> 17:41.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% You throw so much crap out 17:41.866 --> 17:42.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% there, that whatever truth there 17:42.533 --> 17:42.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% is, it gets lost. 17:42.933 --> 17:45.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% The idea that we just spent all 17:45.166 --> 17:48.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% this time with these sex 17:48.600 --> 17:49.200 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% offender conspiracy theories, 17:49.200 --> 17:50.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and then you put this guy, with 17:50.733 --> 17:51.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% a very credible accusation 17:51.266 --> 17:56.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% against him into a top law 17:56.900 --> 17:57.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% enforcement spot? 17:57.300 --> 17:57.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% [LAUGHTER] 17:57.566 --> 18:02.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% By the way, did he practice law 18:02.266 --> 18:03.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% two years I think it was? 18:03.433 --> 18:09.966 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% And people like Tolson Gabbard 18:09.966 --> 18:10.866 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% -- Tolson Gabbard, who is just 18:10.866 --> 18:18.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% -- Tulsi, why would you do that? 18:18.266 --> 18:18.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Answer for this person in charge 18:18.900 --> 18:19.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% of our intelligence? 18:19.333 --> 18:22.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Trump won the election. 18:22.166 --> 18:24.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He gets to nominate the cabinet, 18:24.033 --> 18:24.833 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and he has senators who are 18:24.833 --> 18:27.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% going to be inclined to lay down 18:27.366 --> 18:27.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% for him as much as possible. 18:27.933 --> 18:32.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% But, these are wild pigs. 18:32.033 --> 18:34.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Let's bring it back to 18:34.600 --> 18:36.000 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Jersey and the 2025 governors 18:36.000 --> 18:36.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80%   race. 18:36.266 --> 18:42.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Jelani, one poll shows that 18:42.433 --> 18:43.066 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% nobody knows who these governor 18:43.066 --> 18:43.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% candidates are. 18:43.433 --> 18:47.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% As we go to press today, Josh 18:47.533 --> 18:51.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Gottheimer is announcing his 18:51.933 --> 18:52.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% candidacy. 18:52.600 --> 18:55.066 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% We know him, but by and large, 18:55.066 --> 18:55.700 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% voters outside of his district 18:55.700 --> 18:55.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% do not. 18:55.966 --> 18:59.066 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% It is really anybody's race at 18:59.066 --> 19:00.700 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% this moment, one year out, no? 19:00.700 --> 19:02.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Jelani: Correct. 19:02.966 --> 19:07.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It does seem -- the field is 19:07.133 --> 19:07.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% going to be crowded. 19:07.600 --> 19:10.100 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% There are some who argue that 19:10.100 --> 19:11.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the fields being crowded is 19:11.966 --> 19:15.400 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% going to provide more candidates 19:15.400 --> 19:16.000 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% , it is going to provide more 19:16.000 --> 19:20.666 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% space for the Democratic Party 19:20.666 --> 19:21.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% to basically iron out the kinks 19:21.633 --> 19:22.466 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and how they would like to 19:22.466 --> 19:22.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% perfect messaging. 19:22.900 --> 19:25.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And there are other insiders who 19:25.333 --> 19:28.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% are arguing they are afraid that 19:28.266 --> 19:30.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the political warfare that is 19:30.133 --> 19:33.466 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% about to take place between all 19:33.466 --> 19:34.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% of these candidates is basically 19:34.166 --> 19:37.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% going to clear a path for 19:37.433 --> 19:39.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Republican candidates to take 19:39.866 --> 19:42.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% over whatever ashes are left of 19:42.233 --> 19:44.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% things if it gets too 19:44.600 --> 19:44.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% contentious. 19:44.900 --> 19:46.000 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Interesting point. 19:46.000 --> 19:48.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% You political dudes are going to 19:48.433 --> 19:49.733 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% be all up in this for the next 19:49.733 --> 19:50.066 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5%   year. 19:50.066 --> 19:53.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% What is going to be the biggest 19:53.033 --> 19:53.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% issue on the Democratic side and 19:53.900 --> 19:55.400 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% on the Republican side? 19:55.400 --> 19:58.000 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I know I'm asking you to 19:58.000 --> 19:58.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% prognosticate a little bit. 19:58.700 --> 20:01.000 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Right now? 20:01.000 --> 20:04.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Matt: It's harder to stay on the 20:04.333 --> 20:05.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Democratic side with the biggest 20:05.633 --> 20:06.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% issue is going to be with so 20:06.266 --> 20:06.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% many candidates. 20:06.633 --> 20:09.066 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% There may not be one defining 20:09.066 --> 20:11.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% issue, and on the Republican 20:11.233 --> 20:11.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% side it is obvious what the 20:11.966 --> 20:12.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% issue is going to be. 20:12.433 --> 20:16.833 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Trump's going to be able to play 20:16.833 --> 20:20.400 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% a big role as King -- pin maker. 20:20.400 --> 20:23.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Unlike the Senate endorsement 20:23.600 --> 20:24.266 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% last time, it will make a huge 20:24.266 --> 20:28.100 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% difference, and the question is, 20:28.100 --> 20:31.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% he may be inclined to back 20:31.433 --> 20:32.100 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% whoever says the nicest things 20:32.100 --> 20:32.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% about him. 20:32.366 --> 20:34.600 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% But there is an effort to make 20:34.600 --> 20:36.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% contacts with his people. 20:36.333 --> 20:40.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% As far as Gottheimer, who was 20:40.166 --> 20:42.133 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% declaring his candidacy today, 20:42.133 --> 20:42.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% it is hard to see the path 20:42.933 --> 20:44.833 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% because Gottheimer made a 20:44.833 --> 20:46.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% last-ditch attempt to keep 20:46.366 --> 20:46.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% political losses in place. 20:46.933 --> 20:49.766 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He was really banking on that 20:49.766 --> 20:50.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% system to get him through. 20:50.333 --> 20:52.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And he is not going to have the 20:52.366 --> 20:52.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% line. 20:52.566 --> 20:56.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It has lost its biggest tool. 20:56.233 --> 20:58.533 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% David: But he has $20 million. 20:58.533 --> 21:00.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Matt: That is the counterpoint. 21:00.600 --> 21:04.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% In the absence of the County 21:04.633 --> 21:06.666 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% line, money may take it, but 21:06.666 --> 21:07.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% there is a decent theory that 21:07.900 --> 21:08.466 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% money will take on a bigger 21:08.466 --> 21:08.666 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% role. 21:08.666 --> 21:11.200 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% He cannot use that $20 million 21:11.200 --> 21:14.066 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% legally to just shovel into his 21:14.066 --> 21:15.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% campaign, but he has the ability 21:15.233 --> 21:17.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% to raise a hell of a lot of 21:17.333 --> 21:17.766 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% money really quick. 21:17.766 --> 21:21.200 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% There are a lot of -- there is a 21:21.200 --> 21:24.700 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% lot of progress -- progressive 21:24.700 --> 21:26.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% anger at the boss system that we 21:26.033 --> 21:27.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% saw, and it will be a lower 21:27.166 --> 21:27.666 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% turnout than the federal 21:27.666 --> 21:29.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% election. 21:29.166 --> 21:30.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Those people will probably be 21:30.166 --> 21:31.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% more represented. 21:31.866 --> 21:34.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It is a tough path for him, 21:34.533 --> 21:35.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% especially with everything, but 21:35.166 --> 21:36.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% he's going to have it, a lot of 21:36.366 --> 21:38.000 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80%   money. 21:38.000 --> 21:41.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And politics is completely 21:41.900 --> 21:42.566 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% unpredictable, and it would be 21:42.566 --> 21:45.766 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% ridiculous of me to try to 21:45.766 --> 21:46.066 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% counted out. 21:46.066 --> 21:49.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Colleen, the numbers 21:49.733 --> 21:50.366 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% game, everything that you love 21:50.366 --> 21:52.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% so much, from who raised what 21:52.566 --> 21:53.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% money and who got which 21:53.533 --> 21:56.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% endorsement, voter trends, Mikey 21:56.700 --> 21:58.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Cheryl probably joining the race 21:58.966 --> 21:59.766 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% next week. 21:59.766 --> 22:02.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% What are the statistics that you 22:02.300 --> 22:03.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% are going to be watching with 22:03.233 --> 22:03.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the most interest? 22:03.933 --> 22:07.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Colleen: Yeah, you know, I think 22:07.033 --> 22:09.966 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% money is going to play a part, 22:09.966 --> 22:10.800 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% but we have seen in the past 22:10.800 --> 22:13.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% that money does not necessarily 22:13.033 --> 22:16.466 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% buy you a seat. 22:16.466 --> 22:24.100 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Look at how Steve Sweeney was 22:24.100 --> 22:26.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% unseated back in 2021. 22:26.900 --> 22:29.400 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I do think the Democrats are 22:29.400 --> 22:31.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% going to be largely looking for 22:31.966 --> 22:35.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the same demographic in terms of 22:35.600 --> 22:38.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% voters, and without the line, it 22:38.900 --> 22:39.533 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% will be interesting to see who 22:39.533 --> 22:39.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% comes forward. 22:39.900 --> 22:43.233 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Mikey Cheryl, I think, has the 22:43.233 --> 22:44.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% best name recognition at this 22:44.266 --> 22:44.466 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% point. 22:44.466 --> 22:47.466 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% The candidates, everybody is 22:47.466 --> 22:48.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% going to have to do a heck of a 22:48.133 --> 22:49.600 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% lot more work to get people to 22:49.600 --> 22:50.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% know who they are. 22:50.233 --> 22:53.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I was kind of shocked to see 22:53.333 --> 22:56.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% from that poll how low the 22:56.266 --> 22:58.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% numbers were just with 22:58.433 --> 22:58.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% recognition. 22:58.733 --> 23:01.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% So I think we are expected to 23:01.266 --> 23:03.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% see a lot of ads coming in. 23:03.266 --> 23:05.966 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% David: Speaking of ballots and 23:05.966 --> 23:09.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% candidates, I would like to play 23:09.166 --> 23:10.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% this little sound from Attorney 23:10.300 --> 23:12.233 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% General Matt plaque in -- Matt 23:12.233 --> 23:16.100 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Platkin and then bring you in, 23:16.100 --> 23:16.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Matt, to talk about context. 23:16.700 --> 23:18.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% You had an interesting item 23:18.633 --> 23:18.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% about it. 23:18.966 --> 23:22.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> The one thing that I will say 23:22.333 --> 23:24.100 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% is that I think it is time for 23:24.100 --> 23:24.766 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% people in positions of authority 23:24.766 --> 23:28.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% in this state to spend a little 23:28.166 --> 23:28.800 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% more time questioning their own 23:28.800 --> 23:33.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% role in creating a system or 23:33.700 --> 23:36.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% enabling a system of corruption, 23:36.266 --> 23:36.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and a little less time 23:36.933 --> 23:38.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% threatening those of us who are 23:38.933 --> 23:39.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% trying to do some thing about 23:39.533 --> 23:39.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% it. 23:39.700 --> 23:42.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: So, Matt, who is he 23:42.366 --> 23:42.666 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% talking to? 23:42.666 --> 23:46.200 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Not Governor Murphy. 23:46.200 --> 23:48.366 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% And what is the angle here for 23:48.366 --> 23:49.200 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% him? 23:49.200 --> 23:51.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Matt: He is talking to Governor 23:51.933 --> 23:53.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Murphy, he's talking to the 23:53.966 --> 23:57.266 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Democratic legislative leaders, 23:57.266 --> 24:01.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% to George Norcross, to Joe 24:01.533 --> 24:01.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Cryan. 24:01.733 --> 24:04.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Towards what end? 24:04.433 --> 24:06.000 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Jelani: -- 24:06.000 --> 24:08.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Matt: Well, he could be an 24:08.533 --> 24:10.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% idealist. 24:10.333 --> 24:12.000 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He came up with Governor Murphy. 24:12.000 --> 24:13.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He was one of the absolute 24:13.300 --> 24:16.400 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% closest to Governor Murphy. 24:16.400 --> 24:18.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Granted, he did spearhead a lot 24:18.300 --> 24:18.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% of things. 24:18.566 --> 24:21.633 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% He was heavily involved in the 24:21.633 --> 24:22.100 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% investigation into tax 24:22.100 --> 24:22.533 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% incentives. 24:22.533 --> 24:26.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% A lot of the pushback, Trump has 24:26.733 --> 24:28.566 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% counsel to the governor, and the 24:28.566 --> 24:29.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% obvious question, is he running 24:29.333 --> 24:29.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% for something? 24:29.700 --> 24:32.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I was not at that press 24:32.933 --> 24:34.500 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% conference to ask him that, but 24:34.500 --> 24:35.333 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% I don't think he's running for 24:35.333 --> 24:37.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% governor this year, but it seems 24:37.033 --> 24:37.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% clear that he has political 24:37.600 --> 24:37.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% ambitions. 24:37.866 --> 24:40.100 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% That is also what pretty much 24:40.100 --> 24:44.100 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% everyone is assuming, how that 24:44.100 --> 24:44.666 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% winds up, if you get Mikey 24:44.666 --> 24:47.200 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Cheryl as governor and her 24:47.200 --> 24:49.000 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% congressional seat opens up, 24:49.000 --> 24:51.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% does he run for that? 24:51.366 --> 24:52.133 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I don't know, that is one 24:52.133 --> 24:52.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% possibility. 24:52.433 --> 24:56.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I'm honestly not sure if he 24:56.166 --> 24:57.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% lives in the 10th District or 24:57.633 --> 24:58.366 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the 11th part of it, but it 24:58.366 --> 24:58.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% doesn't really matter. 24:58.866 --> 25:00.300 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% You can run in either. 25:00.300 --> 25:04.233 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Yes, I think he is positioning 25:04.233 --> 25:06.800 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% himself for a run for office, 25:06.800 --> 25:09.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% but I also think that is not 25:09.700 --> 25:10.833 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% mutually exclusive of generally 25:10.833 --> 25:11.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% believing in what he says, 25:11.433 --> 25:15.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% despite the cynical takes by 25:15.933 --> 25:16.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Trenton insiders, who correctly 25:16.600 --> 25:18.766 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% note that he came up in this 25:18.766 --> 25:19.233 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% part of the machine. 25:19.233 --> 25:21.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: All right. 25:21.333 --> 25:25.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% A programming note, next week's 25:25.900 --> 25:30.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% "Chat Box" is one hour-long, 25:30.166 --> 25:30.666 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% featuring questions with 25:30.666 --> 25:31.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% declared candidates for governor 25:31.600 --> 25:32.933 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% in front of a live audience in 25:32.933 --> 25:36.033 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% the exhibit hall at the annual 25:36.033 --> 25:37.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% legal municipalities conference. 25:37.933 --> 25:39.066 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We will try to get them all. 25:39.066 --> 25:43.400 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% We have Sweeney, Philip, spill 25:43.400 --> 25:46.333 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% er, Spady right, and who are we 25:46.333 --> 25:46.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% missing? 25:46.600 --> 25:49.200 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Let's see who declares over the 25:49.200 --> 25:49.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% next couple of days. 25:49.633 --> 25:51.633 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We will bring extra chairs just 25:51.633 --> 25:51.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% in case. 25:51.866 --> 25:54.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It is a special "Chat Box" next 25:54.433 --> 25:54.666 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% week. 25:54.666 --> 25:56.466 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Make sure you are around to two 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