WEBVTT 00:00.033 --> 00:03.470 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Announcer: Major funding for 00:03.470 --> 00:04.971 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% "Reporters Roundtable" is 00:04.971 --> 00:06.539 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% provided by RWJ Barnabas Health. 00:06.539 --> 00:11.978 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Let's be healthy together. 00:11.978 --> 00:26.793 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% ♪ 00:26.793 --> 00:31.631 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: And Paterson, has the 00:31.631 --> 00:32.365 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% state already overstayed its 00:32.365 --> 00:32.599 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% welcome. 00:32.599 --> 00:34.000 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It is "Reporters Roundtable." 00:34.000 --> 00:35.101 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I am David Cruz. 00:35.101 --> 00:37.604 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Welcome back. 00:37.604 --> 00:39.406 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% We hope you had a nice summer. 00:39.406 --> 00:41.141 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Or sun-kissed panel of 00:41.141 --> 00:42.575 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% journalists includes Colleen 00:42.575 --> 00:46.046 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% O'Dea, Senior writer and project 00:46.046 --> 00:46.613 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% editor at NJ Spotlight News. 00:46.613 --> 00:50.316 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Charlie style, communist -- 00:50.316 --> 00:51.684 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% colonist. 00:51.684 --> 00:56.122 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% -- columnist. 00:56.122 --> 01:01.061 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We will say -- we will say 01:01.061 --> 01:01.694 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% hello to them formally in a few 01:01.694 --> 01:01.928 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% minutes. 01:01.928 --> 01:04.898 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% We are asking the question, is 01:04.898 --> 01:05.532 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% it already time for them to get 01:05.532 --> 01:07.267 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% out? 01:07.267 --> 01:08.168 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We will pose that question to 01:08.168 --> 01:08.535 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% our next guest. 01:08.535 --> 01:11.738 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He is the mayor of Paterson. 01:11.738 --> 01:14.207 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It is a pleasure to welcome back 01:14.207 --> 01:14.474 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the mayor. 01:14.474 --> 01:14.707 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Welcome. 01:14.707 --> 01:17.610 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Thank you, David. 01:17.610 --> 01:18.078 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I'm glad to be back. 01:18.078 --> 01:20.447 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Good to see you. 01:20.447 --> 01:21.781 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It has been almost a year and a 01:21.781 --> 01:23.750 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% half now, just after the death 01:23.750 --> 01:24.784 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% of Najee Seabrooks. 01:24.784 --> 01:29.222 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% A real low point in police 01:29.222 --> 01:29.789 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% community relations in your 01:29.789 --> 01:29.989 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% city. 01:29.989 --> 01:35.195 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% When it happened, the takeover, 01:35.195 --> 01:36.129 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% you were kind of muted in your 01:36.129 --> 01:37.497 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5%   response. 01:37.497 --> 01:40.100 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Can you first start by telling 01:40.100 --> 01:42.635 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% us how all that happens? 01:42.635 --> 01:43.970 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% How much advance notice do you 01:43.970 --> 01:44.537 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% get when something like that 01:44.537 --> 01:44.771 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% occurs? 01:44.771 --> 01:48.708 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Actually, it was March 27, 01:48.708 --> 01:50.076 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% 2023, and I received a 01:50.076 --> 01:54.881 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% conversation -- a phone call 01:54.881 --> 01:55.915 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% around 8:00 in the morning, 01:55.915 --> 01:58.418 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% telling me he was in my Police 01:58.418 --> 01:58.985 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Department and taking over. 01:58.985 --> 02:02.155 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% At that point, I am saying to 02:02.155 --> 02:03.056 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% myself, I did not get advance 02:03.056 --> 02:07.760 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% notice and this is something as 02:07.760 --> 02:09.162 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% far as police relations with the 02:09.162 --> 02:11.564 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% public is concerned something we 02:11.564 --> 02:11.931 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% were working on. 02:11.931 --> 02:13.333 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% If you would have given me the 02:13.333 --> 02:14.033 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% courtesy of a meeting or a phone 02:14.033 --> 02:16.636 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% call weeks prior to this 02:16.636 --> 02:18.505 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% stunning phone call, which I 02:18.505 --> 02:20.974 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% thought was entirely 02:20.974 --> 02:21.541 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% inappropriate and 02:21.541 --> 02:22.408 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% unprofessional, I would have 02:22.408 --> 02:23.143 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% been able to let him know what 02:23.143 --> 02:23.576 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% we were working on. 02:23.576 --> 02:27.213 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We were engaged in serious 02:27.213 --> 02:28.548 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% conversation with the Rucker 02:28.548 --> 02:29.916 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Center on policing and I had 02:29.916 --> 02:30.517 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% already scheduled a trip to 02:30.517 --> 02:33.686 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Omaha to learn more about Omaha 02:33.686 --> 02:36.122 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% 360, a proven program to help 02:36.122 --> 02:37.257 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% improve not only the 02:37.257 --> 02:39.225 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% relationship between the police 02:39.225 --> 02:40.527 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and the public, but to reduce 02:40.527 --> 02:41.461 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% crime in urban centers like 02:41.461 --> 02:41.728 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Paterson. 02:41.728 --> 02:44.531 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: We will get to more of 02:44.531 --> 02:46.733 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% that in a couple seconds, but 02:46.733 --> 02:47.767 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% are you telling me you got a 02:47.767 --> 02:50.870 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% call on the day that these guys 02:50.870 --> 02:52.605 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% showed up in your Police 02:52.605 --> 02:52.906 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Department? 02:52.906 --> 02:55.775 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Yes. 02:55.775 --> 02:57.110 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I received a phone call 02:57.110 --> 02:59.312 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% informing me he was taking over 02:59.312 --> 02:59.812 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% my Police Department. 02:59.812 --> 03:00.647 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% The way we have been able to 03:00.647 --> 03:03.249 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% position Paterson for progress 03:03.249 --> 03:04.250 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% is their partnerships. 03:04.250 --> 03:06.786 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I believe in collaboration. 03:06.786 --> 03:08.655 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% But he had no interest in being 03:08.655 --> 03:11.891 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% a partner, no interest in 03:11.891 --> 03:12.692 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% collaboration. 03:12.692 --> 03:14.827 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Many believe he was looking to 03:14.827 --> 03:15.862 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% further his own political 03:15.862 --> 03:16.129 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% ambitions. 03:16.129 --> 03:19.132 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Our city is not a steppingstone. 03:19.132 --> 03:23.870 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: I did not know that is 03:23.870 --> 03:24.270 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% how that happened. 03:24.270 --> 03:28.841 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% In the beginning, your response 03:28.841 --> 03:31.578 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% was kind of muted, and 03:31.578 --> 03:32.212 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% immediately they started saying 03:32.212 --> 03:33.913 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% how great a job was going on 03:33.913 --> 03:34.113 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% there. 03:34.113 --> 03:37.083 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% What were you doing while all 03:37.083 --> 03:37.517 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% that was happening? 03:37.517 --> 03:39.852 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% You really could not have a 03:39.852 --> 03:40.053 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% role. 03:40.053 --> 03:43.556 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> As you know, being a mayor is 03:43.556 --> 03:44.991 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% multifaceted, so there were 03:44.991 --> 03:45.525 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% other items like economic 03:45.525 --> 03:48.394 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% development, a whole host of 03:48.394 --> 03:49.762 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% projects, improving our parks 03:49.762 --> 03:50.396 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% and focusing on recreation for 03:50.396 --> 03:50.697 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% our youth. 03:50.697 --> 03:53.499 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% You keep alluding to the muted 03:53.499 --> 03:53.833 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5%   response. 03:53.833 --> 03:55.902 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% I did not know what to make of 03:55.902 --> 03:56.069 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% it. 03:56.069 --> 03:57.770 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% The Attorney General gives you a 03:57.770 --> 03:59.205 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% call and tells you he is taking 03:59.205 --> 04:01.474 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% over your department, this is 04:01.474 --> 04:01.941 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% almost unprecedented. 04:01.941 --> 04:04.310 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% That is why we are challenging 04:04.310 --> 04:04.510 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% this. 04:04.510 --> 04:08.181 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We believe what he did was 04:08.181 --> 04:11.284 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% illegal, that it goes against 04:11.284 --> 04:12.685 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Home rule come potentially 04:12.685 --> 04:15.955 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% violates the Faulkner act. 04:15.955 --> 04:18.558 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We believe what he did was 04:18.558 --> 04:18.891 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% undemocratic. 04:18.891 --> 04:20.393 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Let me elaborate on that one. 04:20.393 --> 04:21.361 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I have been duly elected by the 04:21.361 --> 04:25.498 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% voters of Paterson twice, by 04:25.498 --> 04:25.832 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% large margins. 04:25.832 --> 04:27.967 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And who better than the mayor to 04:27.967 --> 04:28.901 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% know the needs and wants of the 04:28.901 --> 04:29.168 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% residents? 04:29.168 --> 04:32.105 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Quite frankly, that flies in the 04:32.105 --> 04:32.438 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% face of that. 04:32.438 --> 04:35.942 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And our case has been solidified 04:35.942 --> 04:39.045 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% by the municipalities. 04:39.045 --> 04:39.479 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% They joined us. 04:39.479 --> 04:42.649 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Now you're talking about all 564 04:42.649 --> 04:44.217 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% towns and cities saying we don't 04:44.217 --> 04:47.020 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% agree with what Matt Platkin has 04:47.020 --> 04:47.220 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% done. 04:47.220 --> 04:50.857 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: They released a statement 04:50.857 --> 04:51.457 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% to that effect. 04:51.457 --> 04:52.258 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% But the department just had a 04:52.258 --> 04:54.694 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% bunch of promotions, they talked 04:54.694 --> 05:00.099 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% about major improvements to the 05:00.099 --> 05:01.334 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% relations with the community. 05:01.334 --> 05:02.001 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Is that not happening? 05:02.001 --> 05:05.938 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> I am a resident of Paterson, 05:05.938 --> 05:07.940 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% so I will tell you, speaking 05:07.940 --> 05:08.675 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% from the perspective of someone 05:08.675 --> 05:11.744 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% who has lived in Paterson his 05:11.744 --> 05:12.845 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% entire life, what we noticed 05:12.845 --> 05:18.318 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% early on when they came in, in 05:18.318 --> 05:18.951 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% those first three months of that 05:18.951 --> 05:21.954 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% year, we saw a sharp reduction 05:21.954 --> 05:22.322 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% in shootings. 05:22.322 --> 05:22.989 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% 66% decline. 05:22.989 --> 05:28.027 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And 30% reduction in homicides. 05:28.027 --> 05:30.863 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I am not sure how they are 05:30.863 --> 05:32.031 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% measuring their trust factor. 05:32.031 --> 05:34.934 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I still feel there is an element 05:34.934 --> 05:36.202 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% of trust that does not exist 05:36.202 --> 05:37.570 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% between the police and public, 05:37.570 --> 05:39.639 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and that is why I want to allude 05:39.639 --> 05:41.407 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% to the Omaha 360 initiative and 05:41.407 --> 05:43.943 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the partnership I was looking to 05:43.943 --> 05:44.577 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% forge with the Rucker center on 05:44.577 --> 05:46.045 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% policing. 05:46.045 --> 05:47.480 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Then I think you would see some 05:47.480 --> 05:47.914 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% measurable results. 05:47.914 --> 05:50.950 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Let me get a question in 05:50.950 --> 05:51.150 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% here. 05:51.150 --> 05:53.886 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Ken, you had a question? 05:53.886 --> 05:55.288 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> I did. 05:55.288 --> 05:58.024 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Hello, Mayor. 05:58.024 --> 06:00.026 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% One of the things I'm going to 06:00.026 --> 06:02.595 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% name, I have perfect familiarity 06:02.595 --> 06:02.862 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% with it. 06:02.862 --> 06:05.531 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Baltimore, Ferguson, Missouri, 06:05.531 --> 06:07.467 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Rankin County, Mississippi, and 06:07.467 --> 06:10.103 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% within the last year, Trenton, 06:10.103 --> 06:10.403 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% New Jersey. 06:10.403 --> 06:14.307 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% These are cities that have had 06:14.307 --> 06:14.941 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% similar policing issues as far 06:14.941 --> 06:15.742 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% as police-community relations, 06:15.742 --> 06:19.078 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% only they had the federal 06:19.078 --> 06:20.046 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Justice Department come in to 06:20.046 --> 06:20.713 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% investigate them for a pattern 06:20.713 --> 06:21.013 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% of practice. 06:21.013 --> 06:24.083 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% You admitted there are some 06:24.083 --> 06:24.517 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% issues in Paterson. 06:24.517 --> 06:26.519 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% My question is, what makes 06:26.519 --> 06:29.589 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Paterson, New Jersey, different 06:29.589 --> 06:31.457 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% from any other state that has 06:31.457 --> 06:33.493 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% had police-community relations 06:33.493 --> 06:34.127 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and somebody has had to step in 06:34.127 --> 06:34.527 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% to try to fix it? 06:34.527 --> 06:37.029 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> What makes us different is 06:37.029 --> 06:39.298 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% the fact that two things I did 06:39.298 --> 06:41.167 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% when I first got in, because I 06:41.167 --> 06:41.701 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% realize this predates me. 06:41.701 --> 06:44.837 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% You had corrupt cops, called the 06:44.837 --> 06:48.074 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% robbery squad, and it was our 06:48.074 --> 06:49.709 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the -- it was our police to 06:49.709 --> 06:51.377 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% permit that turned them into the 06:51.377 --> 06:55.615 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% FBI and all of them were some -- 06:55.615 --> 06:56.048 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% summarily arrested. 06:56.048 --> 06:58.251 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I was elected, reelected, and 06:58.251 --> 06:59.519 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% one of the planks of my platform 06:59.519 --> 07:01.087 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% was to improve the relationship 07:01.087 --> 07:01.621 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% between the police and the 07:01.621 --> 07:03.523 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% public. 07:03.523 --> 07:06.092 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% As I stated before, I went to 07:06.092 --> 07:06.859 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Omaha to learn about their 07:06.859 --> 07:09.695 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% program on how to improve or 07:09.695 --> 07:11.063 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% restore trust between the police 07:11.063 --> 07:13.933 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and the public, and also reduce 07:13.933 --> 07:14.600 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% violent crime in the city. 07:14.600 --> 07:18.004 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I was actively engaged in the 07:18.004 --> 07:20.139 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% conversations with John Farmer 07:20.139 --> 07:22.175 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% from the Rucker center on how we 07:22.175 --> 07:23.276 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% can form a partnership to 07:23.276 --> 07:26.579 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% address an area we needed to 07:26.579 --> 07:26.813 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% improve. 07:26.813 --> 07:31.918 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% If I could also point to in 07:31.918 --> 07:32.552 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% 2019, I outlined my tools for 07:32.552 --> 07:32.785 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% trusts. 07:32.785 --> 07:35.855 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% One of them was having a 07:35.855 --> 07:38.591 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% conference of audit of my Police 07:38.591 --> 07:39.225 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Department to find out where are 07:39.225 --> 07:40.159 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% these areas for improvement? 07:40.159 --> 07:43.262 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% And also, prior to taking 07:43.262 --> 07:43.830 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% office, not a single police 07:43.830 --> 07:46.165 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% officer in Paterson was wearing 07:46.165 --> 07:47.099 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% a body camera. 07:47.099 --> 07:47.733 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% No every single police officer 07:47.733 --> 07:50.203 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% in Paterson wears a body camera. 07:50.203 --> 07:51.971 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% So, we are determined to improve 07:51.971 --> 07:54.474 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% public safety and the way we 07:54.474 --> 07:55.107 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% protect and serve our residents 07:55.107 --> 07:55.575 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% in Paterson. 07:55.575 --> 08:00.146 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% David: Mayor, what is the plan 08:00.146 --> 08:03.950 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% now in terms of starting to get 08:03.950 --> 08:04.784 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the state to extricate itself 08:04.784 --> 08:05.151 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% from your city? 08:05.151 --> 08:06.752 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Are you going to file suit? 08:06.752 --> 08:10.990 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> We have filed suit, and 08:10.990 --> 08:12.058 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Tuesday is the showdown. 08:12.058 --> 08:13.960 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% There will be oral arguments 08:13.960 --> 08:15.928 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% this Tuesday before the state 08:15.928 --> 08:16.796 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% appellate court and that is when 08:16.796 --> 08:17.930 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% we will have the opportunity to 08:17.930 --> 08:21.834 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% have our moment to point out 08:21.834 --> 08:22.468 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% that what we believe that Matt 08:22.468 --> 08:25.204 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Platkin did was illegal and 08:25.204 --> 08:25.538 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% undemocratic. 08:25.538 --> 08:28.007 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Paterson Mayor André 08:28.007 --> 08:31.277 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Sayegh, thank you for taking a 08:31.277 --> 08:32.178 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% few minutes with us. 08:32.178 --> 08:32.545 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Good to see you. 08:32.545 --> 08:34.146 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Thank you, David. 08:34.146 --> 08:38.251 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% David: Alright, panel, welcome 08:38.251 --> 08:38.618 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% back. 08:38.618 --> 08:41.153 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Charles, Kenneth, Colleen, we 08:41.153 --> 08:42.421 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% hope you enjoyed your summers. 08:42.421 --> 08:44.223 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% What is André Sayegh up to hear? 08:44.223 --> 08:48.160 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Is he seriously trying to get 08:48.160 --> 08:49.262 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% his town back or positioning 08:49.262 --> 08:49.829 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% himself or something in the 08:49.829 --> 08:50.062 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% future? 08:50.062 --> 08:54.166 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> I take him at his word. 08:54.166 --> 08:59.505 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Certainly he would not be in 08:59.505 --> 09:02.975 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% politics if he was not planning 09:02.975 --> 09:04.277 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% for a future in office. 09:04.277 --> 09:06.979 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% His name was thrown about as a 09:06.979 --> 09:11.217 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% possibility for a brief while 09:11.217 --> 09:13.653 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% for replacement of Bill 09:13.653 --> 09:16.889 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Pascrell, or succeeding Bill 09:16.889 --> 09:17.156 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Pascrell. 09:17.156 --> 09:22.295 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I think he is definitely serious 09:22.295 --> 09:23.462 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% about it. 09:23.462 --> 09:26.299 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I think the question really 09:26.299 --> 09:26.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% comes down to whether he is 09:26.866 --> 09:32.505 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% going to outside groups for 09:32.505 --> 09:34.307 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% reform ideas and concepts in 09:34.307 --> 09:40.279 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Omaha and Rutgers and whether it 09:40.279 --> 09:43.883 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% will be sufficient enough to 09:43.883 --> 09:44.517 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% address the simmering problems 09:44.517 --> 09:44.750 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% there. 09:44.750 --> 09:52.291 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% That is a fair debate. 09:52.291 --> 09:53.693 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I don't know. 09:53.693 --> 09:56.295 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It seemed after the Najee 09:56.295 --> 09:57.863 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Seabrooks case, and it was a 09:57.863 --> 09:58.698 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% tipping point and something 09:58.698 --> 09:59.765 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% dramatic had to be done. 09:59.765 --> 10:01.367 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Whether it means showing up 10:01.367 --> 10:05.004 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% unannounced is the way to do it 10:05.004 --> 10:07.273 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% with the Army of the Attorney 10:07.273 --> 10:08.307 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% General's office is the way to 10:08.307 --> 10:12.144 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% do it -- but there was a sense 10:12.144 --> 10:12.712 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% of the time that things had 10:12.712 --> 10:13.245 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% careened out of control. 10:13.245 --> 10:16.282 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% David: It is not like Paterson 10:16.282 --> 10:17.550 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% was doing that great for the 10:17.550 --> 10:18.150 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% state got there, right? 10:18.150 --> 10:21.520 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Yeah, and that is what I 10:21.520 --> 10:22.788 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% would like to point out, rightly 10:22.788 --> 10:27.994 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% or wrongly, in terms of the A.G. 10:27.994 --> 10:28.794 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% just showing up. 10:28.794 --> 10:31.831 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It seems like there was a swift 10:31.831 --> 10:32.498 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% action that needed to be taken. 10:32.498 --> 10:37.036 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% The Najee Seabrooks case was 10:37.036 --> 10:38.537 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% similar to what we saw in Fort 10:38.537 --> 10:40.706 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Lee earlier this year where 10:40.706 --> 10:41.273 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% there is someone in a mental 10:41.273 --> 10:47.046 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% health crisis, police are 10:47.046 --> 10:48.080 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% barging in when they are not 10:48.080 --> 10:53.019 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% wanted to barge in, and it is a 10:53.019 --> 10:53.853 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% terrible fatal consequence. 10:53.853 --> 10:54.754 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I can tell you that the 10:54.754 --> 10:58.257 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% reporting we did showed that 10:58.257 --> 11:01.460 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% between 2019 and March of 2023, 11:01.460 --> 11:03.929 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% there had been eight deaths 11:03.929 --> 11:06.465 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% related to police actions, six 11:06.465 --> 11:07.099 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% of them were shooting in the 11:07.099 --> 11:07.500 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% city of Paterson. 11:07.500 --> 11:10.970 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% That was by far the most of any 11:10.970 --> 11:12.371 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% place in New Jersey. 11:12.371 --> 11:15.908 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% And the use of force by police 11:15.908 --> 11:16.442 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% was also disproportionate 11:16.442 --> 11:18.144 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% against black and Hispanic 11:18.144 --> 11:20.680 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% residents, again compared with 11:20.680 --> 11:22.381 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the rest of the state. 11:22.381 --> 11:23.549 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Clearly there were problems with 11:23.549 --> 11:24.050 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the police in Paterson. 11:24.050 --> 11:28.921 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Switching gears here now, 11:28.921 --> 11:31.223 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% a judge approved settlements on 11:31.223 --> 11:32.358 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the partyline lawsuits with a 11:32.358 --> 11:34.360 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% few municipalities. 11:34.360 --> 11:35.194 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Was there any doubt this was 11:35.194 --> 11:35.561 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% going to happen? 11:35.561 --> 11:39.465 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Not in my mind, to be honest. 11:39.465 --> 11:40.900 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% When a federal judge says 11:40.900 --> 11:44.370 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% plaintiff's have a viable case 11:44.370 --> 11:45.404 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% that they will likely be 11:45.404 --> 11:47.373 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% successful at, you start making 11:47.373 --> 11:48.340 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% changes before it goes that far. 11:48.340 --> 11:53.179 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I have a feeling that come 2025, 11:53.179 --> 11:53.746 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I would be surprised if any 11:53.746 --> 11:57.149 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% County in New Jersey uses the 11:57.149 --> 11:57.583 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% county line ballots. 11:57.583 --> 12:00.152 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Ding dong, the line is 12:00.152 --> 12:00.519 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% dead, right? 12:00.519 --> 12:03.255 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> One would hope. 12:03.255 --> 12:04.724 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% The fact that Middlesex County 12:04.724 --> 12:07.460 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% settled, and Middlesex County is 12:07.460 --> 12:09.395 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% a hugely powerful Democratic 12:09.395 --> 12:13.499 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% machine County I think is a big 12:13.499 --> 12:14.834 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% part of the deathknell. 12:14.834 --> 12:20.139 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Any evidence that 12:20.139 --> 12:20.906 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% organizations are finding a way 12:20.906 --> 12:23.442 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% to get around blocked ballots 12:23.442 --> 12:24.410 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and that sort of thing? 12:24.410 --> 12:26.212 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Or is it too early, maybe? 12:26.212 --> 12:29.515 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> I think it is a little too 12:29.515 --> 12:29.715 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% early. 12:29.715 --> 12:34.453 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Just as a footnote, I have heard 12:34.453 --> 12:37.523 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% complaints about foot dragging 12:37.523 --> 12:39.525 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% among the Mercer County 12:39.525 --> 12:40.159 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Democratic committee, for some 12:40.159 --> 12:42.595 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% of the progressive wing, about 12:42.595 --> 12:43.729 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% moving into the new block ballot 12:43.729 --> 12:44.330 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% permanently. 12:44.330 --> 12:49.235 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I am not sure everybody is 12:49.235 --> 12:52.138 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% rushing to face the inevitable 12:52.138 --> 12:53.706 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% or surrender to the inevitable 12:53.706 --> 12:56.442 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% tide. 12:56.442 --> 12:58.010 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% I think what you will probably 12:58.010 --> 13:00.579 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% see are the county parties 13:00.579 --> 13:04.083 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% readjust and readapt and flex 13:04.083 --> 13:08.487 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% their muscle in other ways that 13:08.487 --> 13:10.489 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% we didn't see in the last 13:10.489 --> 13:10.723 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% primary. 13:10.723 --> 13:13.826 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% They have tremendous resources, 13:13.826 --> 13:16.929 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% they have personnel, and a lot 13:16.929 --> 13:19.031 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% of people tied to County jobs. 13:19.031 --> 13:24.737 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% So, I think they are just going 13:24.737 --> 13:29.008 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% to adapt to the situation with 13:29.008 --> 13:31.477 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the resources and enormous 13:31.477 --> 13:31.944 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% advantages they have. 13:31.944 --> 13:32.645 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% I don't think you are going to 13:32.645 --> 13:36.916 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% see reform candidates right away 13:36.916 --> 13:40.653 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% topple machine candidates in the 13:40.653 --> 13:41.587 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% next couple cycles. 13:41.587 --> 13:42.755 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It is going to take a long while 13:42.755 --> 13:45.591 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% for those candidates, those 13:45.591 --> 13:47.993 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% challengers, to reach parity. 13:47.993 --> 13:51.397 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% But at least now the doors open 13:51.397 --> 13:51.864 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and they have access. 13:51.864 --> 13:55.568 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% David: Continuing on politics, 13:55.568 --> 13:57.837 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% as we head into the fall races 13:57.837 --> 14:03.609 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% we should watch, does Bashar 14:03.609 --> 14:04.043 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% really have a shot? 14:04.043 --> 14:06.879 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Based on statistics, no. 14:06.879 --> 14:10.249 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% But I am a political science 14:10.249 --> 14:10.883 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% major and somebody told me a 14:10.883 --> 14:12.218 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% long time we are bad 14:12.218 --> 14:12.585 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% fortunetellers. 14:12.585 --> 14:15.154 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It will be an exciting race. 14:15.154 --> 14:19.525 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I am looking at the district 14:19.525 --> 14:26.098 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% with Sue Altman. 14:26.098 --> 14:26.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% That will be competitive for 14:26.866 --> 14:28.567 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80%   sure. 14:28.567 --> 14:31.637 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% For my purposes, it will be 14:31.637 --> 14:32.271 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% interesting to see what happens 14:32.271 --> 14:36.542 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% in district 2 between Joe 14:36.542 --> 14:37.977 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Salerno and Jeff Van Drew. 14:37.977 --> 14:45.451 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Jos Alanna -- Joe Salerno will 14:45.451 --> 14:46.619 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% be the first to get some kind of 14:46.619 --> 14:49.788 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% vengeance on Jeff Van Drew for 14:49.788 --> 14:50.189 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% flipping carnies. 14:50.189 --> 14:56.562 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Elon Musk in CD 7. 14:56.562 --> 14:56.829 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% [laughter] 14:56.829 --> 15:04.270 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Sue Altman maybe has a little 15:04.270 --> 15:04.870 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% bit of a disadvantage in her 15:04.870 --> 15:09.241 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% initial Sue Altman since the 15:09.241 --> 15:10.276 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% King campaign continues to put 15:10.276 --> 15:12.611 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% out emails saying Sue Altman 15:12.611 --> 15:12.912 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% loves taxes. 15:12.912 --> 15:16.282 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% All the homeowners do not like 15:16.282 --> 15:20.619 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the cap. 15:20.619 --> 15:27.159 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Other than the open Senate race, 15:27.159 --> 15:30.896 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% which makes it interesting, we 15:30.896 --> 15:33.098 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% still as of last night don't 15:33.098 --> 15:35.267 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% have a full throated endorsement 15:35.267 --> 15:35.901 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% from the governor of New Jersey 15:35.901 --> 15:38.938 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% saying a member of the party. 15:38.938 --> 15:40.606 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I think that is interesting, but 15:40.606 --> 15:45.177 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I could not imagine the 15:45.177 --> 15:47.313 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Republican winning that seat. 15:47.313 --> 15:48.681 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Then it is just the seventh. 15:48.681 --> 15:53.185 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% I have already got -- they are 15:53.185 --> 15:54.620 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% up here if you want to see them. 15:54.620 --> 15:56.622 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Mailer after mailer. 15:56.622 --> 15:58.757 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: [laughter] 15:58.757 --> 16:00.826 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% She comes with props. 16:00.826 --> 16:05.197 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> The party is getting involved 16:05.197 --> 16:05.698 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and helping him. 16:05.698 --> 16:07.066 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I am not sure he needs financial 16:07.066 --> 16:07.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% help right now. 16:07.433 --> 16:11.337 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Because the district does have 16:11.337 --> 16:13.505 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% more Republican voters or 16:13.505 --> 16:17.176 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Republican registrants than 16:17.176 --> 16:18.043 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Democratic registrants, and it 16:18.043 --> 16:18.944 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% is not the same district it was 16:18.944 --> 16:24.683 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% when Tom Malinowski flipped it 16:24.683 --> 16:24.917 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% in 2018. 16:24.917 --> 16:28.320 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I think it is going to be a hard 16:28.320 --> 16:30.923 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% fight for Sue Altman, but it 16:30.923 --> 16:32.791 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% really is the only game in town 16:32.791 --> 16:34.493 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% on the house side. 16:34.493 --> 16:42.001 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Recently, I asked on your 16:42.001 --> 16:42.634 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% local NPR station, the governor 16:42.634 --> 16:44.870 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% said Andy Kim did not ask him 16:44.870 --> 16:46.538 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% for an endorsement and he only 16:46.538 --> 16:47.172 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% does endorsements for people who 16:47.172 --> 16:50.175 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% ask him and checked in with a 16:50.175 --> 16:52.678 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% source close to the campaign. 16:52.678 --> 16:54.513 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% They said Andy Kim did not ask 16:54.513 --> 16:55.147 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the governor for an endorsement. 16:55.147 --> 16:58.517 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: I asked the governor that 16:58.517 --> 16:59.151 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% very "Chat Box question on "Chat 16:59.151 --> 17:02.187 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Box --I asked that very 17:02.187 --> 17:04.757 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% question on "Chat Box" this 17:04.757 --> 17:04.957 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% week. 17:04.957 --> 17:08.394 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Let me ask you your favorite 17:08.394 --> 17:08.827 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% political question. 17:08.827 --> 17:09.862 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% It concerns the Senate race in 17:09.862 --> 17:10.162 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% New Jersey. 17:10.162 --> 17:12.765 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Let me ask it this way. 17:12.765 --> 17:16.301 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% If Andy Kim asks for your 17:16.301 --> 17:16.935 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% endorsement, would you give it? 17:16.935 --> 17:20.239 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% >> I don't see why I wouldn't. 17:20.239 --> 17:21.607 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It is no secret he was not my 17:21.607 --> 17:21.940 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% first choice. 17:21.940 --> 17:24.743 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Having said that, this is so 17:24.743 --> 17:26.512 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% important to get the right 17:26.512 --> 17:29.715 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% person in there voting for the 17:29.715 --> 17:30.916 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Senate Majority Leader, so there 17:30.916 --> 17:32.284 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% is no question where I am going 17:32.284 --> 17:32.518 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% to vote. 17:32.518 --> 17:34.887 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% He has said publicly he is not 17:34.887 --> 17:36.288 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% seeking endorsements from 17:36.288 --> 17:38.090 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% political leaders, including us. 17:38.090 --> 17:39.858 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Completely his prerogative. 17:39.858 --> 17:40.692 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I completely accept it. 17:40.692 --> 17:42.127 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% But the fact of the matter is, 17:42.127 --> 17:44.029 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% this is an incredibly important 17:44.029 --> 17:44.763 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% election and it matters who you 17:44.763 --> 17:45.030 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% vote for. 17:45.030 --> 17:46.965 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: He is the better 17:46.965 --> 17:47.466 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% candidate in your mind? 17:47.466 --> 17:50.069 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> He is. 17:50.069 --> 17:51.270 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I know both guys as individuals. 17:51.270 --> 17:53.138 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% They are both really good guys, 17:53.138 --> 17:53.906 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% but I am a Democrat through and 17:53.906 --> 17:54.139 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% through. 17:54.139 --> 17:57.476 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Democrats hate to hear 17:57.476 --> 17:58.377 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% your standardbearer say the 17:58.377 --> 17:58.877 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% other guy is a nice guy. 17:58.877 --> 18:02.014 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> He is a nice guy. 18:02.014 --> 18:02.748 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% I don't know what else to say. 18:02.748 --> 18:04.783 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% What I heard he was running for 18:04.783 --> 18:06.785 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the Senate, I said to my guys 18:06.785 --> 18:07.920 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% back whenever Curtis announced, 18:07.920 --> 18:08.787 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I thought he was a Democrat all 18:08.787 --> 18:09.121 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% these years. 18:09.121 --> 18:13.926 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% But listen, there is no question 18:13.926 --> 18:14.726 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% where I'm going to vote. 18:14.726 --> 18:15.861 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% There is too much at stake to 18:15.861 --> 18:17.329 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% make sure we get the majority 18:17.329 --> 18:18.330 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% leader in the Senate, 18:18.330 --> 18:20.099 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% particularly in a year where the 18:20.099 --> 18:21.400 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Senate is in the balance here. 18:21.400 --> 18:22.835 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We talk about the white house a 18:22.835 --> 18:23.001 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% lot. 18:23.001 --> 18:24.169 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We don't talk as much about the 18:24.169 --> 18:24.803 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Senate as we should. 18:24.803 --> 18:28.073 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It is a tough map for Democrats 18:28.073 --> 18:31.176 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% this year, so let's take the 18:31.176 --> 18:31.710 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% ones we know we can get. 18:31.710 --> 18:35.147 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% David: Anything jumping out at 18:35.147 --> 18:36.815 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% you in terms of races to watch, 18:36.815 --> 18:37.683 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% or are we covered? 18:37.683 --> 18:42.354 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> I think CD 7 is the most 18:42.354 --> 18:43.455 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% interesting one. 18:43.455 --> 18:48.660 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% I think Colleen explained that 18:48.660 --> 18:48.961 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% really well. 18:48.961 --> 18:53.098 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% The challenges that Sue Altman 18:53.098 --> 18:55.467 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% is facing, also the fact that 18:55.467 --> 19:00.806 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% they, the Kim campaign, will use 19:00.806 --> 19:03.242 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% every opportunity they can to 19:03.242 --> 19:04.243 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% remind Sue Altman she was a 19:04.243 --> 19:05.377 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% leader of the New Jersey working 19:05.377 --> 19:09.348 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% families party, a progressive 19:09.348 --> 19:12.451 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% activist, and an aggressive 19:12.451 --> 19:13.018 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% progressive activist group. 19:13.018 --> 19:19.258 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% The one thing, and there is some 19:19.258 --> 19:20.893 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% anxiety I see manifested in that 19:20.893 --> 19:22.561 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% investment coming from outside 19:22.561 --> 19:28.734 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% groups, is the Harris factor and 19:28.734 --> 19:32.905 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the enthusiasm factor, and among 19:32.905 --> 19:33.238 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% women voters. 19:33.238 --> 19:37.876 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It is really sort of a big 19:37.876 --> 19:40.879 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% question mark whether there is 19:40.879 --> 19:44.583 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% this real quiet undetected 19:44.583 --> 19:45.217 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% revolt that is not being picked 19:45.217 --> 19:46.919 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% up on the radar. 19:46.919 --> 19:48.887 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I think that is what they are 19:48.887 --> 19:49.621 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% trying to hedge against right 19:49.621 --> 19:49.855 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80%   now. 19:49.855 --> 19:52.925 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> If I can make just one other 19:52.925 --> 19:56.795 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% quick point. 19:56.795 --> 19:57.396 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We are not going to hear from 19:57.396 --> 20:01.967 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Tom Kean because Tom Kean does 20:01.967 --> 20:03.368 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% not talk to the press and he 20:03.368 --> 20:05.571 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% does not talk to people unless 20:05.571 --> 20:07.372 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% he does it behind closed doors 20:07.372 --> 20:08.874 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and the people were invited. 20:08.874 --> 20:11.043 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I think there may be one debate 20:11.043 --> 20:13.779 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% by the globe, but I think that 20:13.779 --> 20:15.747 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% is a real disservice to the 20:15.747 --> 20:16.682 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% voters in the district. 20:16.682 --> 20:19.518 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> I totally agree. 20:19.518 --> 20:22.054 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It is a disservice to the debate 20:22.054 --> 20:22.521 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and politics. 20:22.521 --> 20:28.260 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% But from Kean's point of view, 20:28.260 --> 20:28.894 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% it has worked twice already, so 20:28.894 --> 20:29.194 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I change it? 20:29.194 --> 20:31.530 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: As Michael Aron would 20:31.530 --> 20:32.898 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% say, let's move on. 20:32.898 --> 20:35.767 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% This is the first roundtable 20:35.767 --> 20:36.802 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% since the death of our founding 20:36.802 --> 20:40.606 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% editor and friend Michael Aron. 20:40.606 --> 20:42.407 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% While we are all saddened by the 20:42.407 --> 20:44.276 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% news of his passing, I have to 20:44.276 --> 20:47.179 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% admit that I was more moved to 20:47.179 --> 20:47.679 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% remember his incredible 20:47.679 --> 20:50.816 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% contributions to this network 20:50.816 --> 20:52.884 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and to journalism in New Jersey. 20:52.884 --> 20:54.920 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% What a great run you had, my 20:54.920 --> 20:55.254 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% friend. 20:55.254 --> 20:56.888 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Thanks for everything. 20:56.888 --> 20:57.923 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Charlie, you want to add 20:57.923 --> 20:58.490 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% something to that? 20:58.490 --> 21:03.862 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% >> No, I have expressed myself 21:03.862 --> 21:04.830 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% on this show, and I just want to 21:04.830 --> 21:05.397 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% say I really just miss him. 21:05.397 --> 21:06.932 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Colleen? 21:06.932 --> 21:09.301 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Absolutely agreed. 21:09.301 --> 21:13.238 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He just was so encouraging to 21:13.238 --> 21:15.440 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80%   me. 21:15.440 --> 21:16.942 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He was the first person who got 21:16.942 --> 21:18.710 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% me to feel confident enough to 21:18.710 --> 21:19.111 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% come on this show. 21:19.111 --> 21:24.616 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He was just the consummate 21:24.616 --> 21:25.117 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% professional journalist. 21:25.117 --> 21:26.785 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Totally miss him. 21:26.785 --> 21:31.890 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: A nice tribute over your 21:31.890 --> 21:32.157 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% shoulder. 21:32.157 --> 21:33.091 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Do you want to add something 21:33.091 --> 21:33.458 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% real quick? 21:33.458 --> 21:37.529 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Everyone has said it for me, 21:37.529 --> 21:40.465 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% but I will just say, as someone 21:40.465 --> 21:41.099 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% who is from Maryland and watched 21:41.099 --> 21:44.436 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% his work from afar, it was 21:44.436 --> 21:45.537 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% inspiring work as a journalist, 21:45.537 --> 21:46.038 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% especially in politics. 21:46.038 --> 21:48.940 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: That was a great part 21:48.940 --> 21:49.241 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% right there. 21:49.241 --> 21:50.842 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% We were at the convention. 21:50.842 --> 21:51.943 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% He was talking about all the 21:51.943 --> 21:52.944 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% badges people get. 21:52.944 --> 21:55.580 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Michael, we miss you, we love 21:55.580 --> 21:55.881 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% you, buddy. 21:55.881 --> 22:00.252 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Time for our only in Jersey 22:00.252 --> 22:01.186 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% moments, headlines and notes 22:01.186 --> 22:01.853 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% that are quintessentially New 22:01.853 --> 22:02.087 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Jersey. 22:02.087 --> 22:03.755 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Colleen, you got one? 22:03.755 --> 22:07.159 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> I just got back from vacation 22:07.159 --> 22:11.063 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and we flew out of terminal A in 22:11.063 --> 22:14.700 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Newark, and this is something 22:14.700 --> 22:15.834 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% that at least half the 22:15.834 --> 22:17.035 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% population will never see 22:17.035 --> 22:17.803 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% because it was in the ladies 22:17.803 --> 22:20.772 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80%   room. 22:20.772 --> 22:21.773 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% They have really brought the 22:21.773 --> 22:22.441 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% whole Jersey thing to another 22:22.441 --> 22:25.711 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% level in the stalls in the 22:25.711 --> 22:28.613 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% ladies room, or at least on one 22:28.613 --> 22:32.117 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% level, painted a la Jersey 22:32.117 --> 22:32.751 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% shore. 22:32.751 --> 22:33.952 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I think it helps with the whole 22:33.952 --> 22:36.355 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% process, given where you are, to 22:36.355 --> 22:37.589 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% see these little waves there. 22:37.589 --> 22:40.359 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% They are not moving, obviously. 22:40.359 --> 22:41.693 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% But I thought it quite 22:41.693 --> 22:42.327 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% interesting. 22:42.327 --> 22:44.062 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I have not seen that in any 22:44.062 --> 22:45.030 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% other bathroom anywhere. 22:45.030 --> 22:47.966 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I do want to say, I enjoy the 22:47.966 --> 22:52.771 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% large NJ as well, which we found 22:52.771 --> 22:54.539 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% as we were leaving and came back 22:54.539 --> 22:54.906 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% into the states. 22:54.906 --> 22:56.141 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% But I think there might have 22:56.141 --> 22:58.143 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% been a mistake in that everyone 22:58.143 --> 22:59.745 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% is taking selfies and there is 22:59.745 --> 23:01.246 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% no way you can see this giant 23:01.246 --> 23:03.615 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% NJ's. 23:03.615 --> 23:04.850 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% So you might want to think about 23:04.850 --> 23:05.317 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% that, Port Authority. 23:05.317 --> 23:07.919 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Good point. 23:07.919 --> 23:08.420 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Kenny, do you got one? 23:08.420 --> 23:11.556 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% >> I caught up with CJ Griffin 23:11.556 --> 23:12.991 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% the other day. 23:12.991 --> 23:13.558 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Two weeks into the new bill 23:13.558 --> 23:16.795 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% being in effect, agencies are 23:16.795 --> 23:17.729 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% denying requests for emails left 23:17.729 --> 23:20.599 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% and right because of the 23:20.599 --> 23:21.466 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% specific subject standard we now 23:21.466 --> 23:21.666 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% have. 23:21.666 --> 23:25.404 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% The state has not fully 23:25.404 --> 23:26.338 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% implemented their online portal 23:26.338 --> 23:26.872 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% with the new requirements. 23:26.872 --> 23:29.808 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Keep in mind, when it comes to 23:29.808 --> 23:31.276 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% putting things online in New 23:31.276 --> 23:33.078 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Jersey, the New Jersey State 23:33.078 --> 23:34.579 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% police have not updated their 23:34.579 --> 23:36.581 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% crime stats in more than 1200 23:36.581 --> 23:36.782 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% days. 23:36.782 --> 23:39.418 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Only in New Jersey where the 23:39.418 --> 23:40.786 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% street -- the state treats 23:40.786 --> 23:41.420 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% public information for me, not 23:41.420 --> 23:43.288 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% for thee. 23:43.288 --> 23:47.058 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% David: I hear a lot about that 23:47.058 --> 23:48.160 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% from a lot of towns. 23:48.160 --> 23:48.693 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Charlie, you wanted to say 23:48.693 --> 23:49.027 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% something? 23:49.027 --> 23:53.165 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Awesome point made by 23:53.165 --> 23:55.267 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Kennedy. 23:55.267 --> 23:57.102 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% -- awesome point made by Kenny. 23:57.102 --> 23:59.871 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I want to add it is time to end 23:59.871 --> 24:04.810 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% that Wow New Jersey tourism 24:04.810 --> 24:05.076 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% campaign. 24:05.076 --> 24:05.677 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It's a frankly awful. 24:05.677 --> 24:08.246 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% [laughter] 24:08.246 --> 24:09.147 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It is juvenile. 24:09.147 --> 24:09.781 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% I don't understand what it is 24:09.781 --> 24:09.981 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% about. 24:09.981 --> 24:12.884 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Small state, big fun, 24:12.884 --> 24:13.218 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% right? 24:13.218 --> 24:16.021 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Did you ever think of New Jersey 24:16.021 --> 24:16.421 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% as a small state? 24:16.421 --> 24:20.892 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Just that wow voice going off 24:20.892 --> 24:21.293 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% in the background. 24:21.293 --> 24:23.195 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% I don't know what that guy did 24:23.195 --> 24:23.628 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% before he started. 24:23.628 --> 24:26.498 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Certainly not perfect 24:26.498 --> 24:26.832 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% together. 24:26.832 --> 24:31.536 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> We need to start recognizing 24:31.536 --> 24:32.003 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% my part of the state. 24:32.003 --> 24:33.371 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Yeah. 24:33.371 --> 24:36.074 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> I have said my piece. 24:36.074 --> 24:36.341 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% [laughter] 24:36.341 --> 24:41.146 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Mine comes from my 24:41.146 --> 24:42.447 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% hometown, where I was honored to 24:42.447 --> 24:43.048 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% be asked to serve as the main 24:43.048 --> 24:46.651 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% stage emcee for the inaugural 24:46.651 --> 24:47.285 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Jersey City Latin Jazz Festival. 24:47.285 --> 24:50.455 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% It is no secret how much I love 24:50.455 --> 24:52.023 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% this music and how much I love 24:52.023 --> 24:54.359 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% this city, but organizers did a 24:54.359 --> 24:57.829 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% tremendous job of curating some 24:57.829 --> 25:01.166 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% amazing talent and fostering a 25:01.166 --> 25:04.169 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% vibe that was so fantastical it 25:04.169 --> 25:04.803 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% actually got some people high. 25:04.803 --> 25:05.303 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% ♪ 25:05.303 --> 25:12.644 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: Only in Jersey. 25:12.644 --> 25:14.179 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Latin Jazz Festival to kick off 25:14.179 --> 25:14.679 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Hispanic heritage month. 25:14.679 --> 25:18.083 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Thanks to everyone at Riverview 25:18.083 --> 25:18.283 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Jazz. 25:18.283 --> 25:20.185 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% >> Was that you dancing? 25:20.185 --> 25:23.355 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% David: No, that was not me. 25:23.355 --> 25:23.622 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% [laughter] 25:23.622 --> 25:29.427 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% That is "Reporters Roundtable" 25:29.427 --> 25:30.996 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% for this week. 25:30.996 --> 25:33.198 align:left position:12.5% line:71% size:77.5% Thanks to Paterson Mayor André 25:33.198 --> 25:33.532 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Sayegh. 25:33.532 --> 25:39.704 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80% Follow us on X. 25:39.704 --> 25:41.673 align:left position:10% 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