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MARTY:
I don't want
to get into trouble.

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Don't want you to, either.

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So should I lie, then?

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(door opens)

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SAM: Hiya!

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SAM:
All I have done is walk

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into my house, and I found
an illegal immigrant.

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FRAN: A few months
before he disappeared,

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he'd seen him
with another woman.

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SUNNY: A row that got out
of hand about infidelity--

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it's just about the oldest
motive for murder there is.

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DOT:
Don't say anything about Daddy.

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(thunder claps)

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(whimpers)

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(click)

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♪ ♪

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♪ All we do is hide away ♪

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♪ All we do is,
all we do is hide away ♪

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♪ All we do is lie in wait ♪

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♪ All we do is,
all we do is lie in wait ♪

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♪ I've been upside down ♪

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♪ I don't want to be
the right way round ♪

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♪ Can't find paradise
on the ground ♪

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FRAN:
I just find it rather hard
to square

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Juliet Cooper's description
of their relationship

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with what Prentice
told me.
Hm, ditto the bar manager.

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Ditto her.

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Well, husbands and wives
are allowed

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to have different
political opinions, you know?

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No way.

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But that diametrically opposed?

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Although we're assuming

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that Juliet's
who she says she is.

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Yeah, I'm just asking if

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maybe this was a toxic marriage,

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perhaps violent,
perhaps coercive,

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that finally imploded.

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Where are we on his girlfriend?
KAREN:
Mm.

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So our Melinda is Melinda Ricci.

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Peachy Ricci?

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FRAN:
Yeah.
(whispers): Peachy?

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She had a column
in the "Mail"

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a few years back--
it's like a...

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Well, she's just, like,
writing clickbait.

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Working for
a cable channel now.

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And you think
that they met through

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this forum that Cooper
set up?

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U.K. United, yes--
Cooper is in the background

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of the viral video
about the retweet.

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Do we have an address
for her?

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Well, I spoke to HR at BNC,
her current employers.

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They're based in Docklands, but
she dials in her contribution

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from her home

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about ten miles
west of Cork, apparently.

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Hm.

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Uh, okay,
contact regional Garda,

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see if they can get a local plod
down to set up a Zoom with her.

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And check if they have anything
on her in their systems, too.

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FRAN: Yeah.
And as much background
as you can find

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before we speak to her,
please.
Yeah, sure.

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(softly):
That's mad, yeah.
(softly): I know.

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JESSICA:
So, you mentioned
your dad earlier, Marty.

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MARTY:
Yes, I mentioned
my dad earlier.

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I'm guessing he's always
been a great support to you.

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Mm, he has, yes.
So, I'm wondering,

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did maybe your dad go and speak
to Mr. Cooper about the money?

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You okay, Marty?

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I, I'm fine,
thank you for asking.

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Did he go and speak
to Gerry for you?

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No, he never went to see Gerry.

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SUNNY: You seem a bit upset
at these questions.

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ALISON:
Marty?

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Well, he couldn't go
and see Gerry, could he?

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Why not?

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I think we should
probably take a little break.

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MARTY:
Because he was dead.

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Because Gerry made him be dead.

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(sirens blaring in distance)

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Why am I even at
that school, anyway?

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You're supposed
to be a socialist.

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Taylor, not this, not now.

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We'll miss your train.

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I loathe that school, I loathe
everything it stands for,

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and you should, too.

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Or is that all a lie,
as well?

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(softly):
Gerry told me the vaccine
was a plot to control us,

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that it contained
micro-transmitters,

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and that we should not
take it.
When did he say this?

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Whenever I went to see him
to get my money.

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And did he tell you not
to take it?

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Yes, he told me not to take it.

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Did he suggest

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that your parents

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shouldn't take it, too?

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(softly):
No, he didn't do that.

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I did that.

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But maybe you told your mum and
dad not to take it because of

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what he said to you?
(whispers): Yes.

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Did they listen to you?

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Um, Mum and Dad
were offered the vaccine

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at the end of January, and they,

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they refused it.

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On the second of February,

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Dad got COVID and was admitted

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to Dover Royal Hospital
a week, a week later

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with severe
respiratory difficulties.

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On the 19th of February,

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Dad died.

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All on his Jack Jones.

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Thomas Henry Baines
was 76.

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I'm so sorry for your loss.

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We both are, Marty.

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He had a good innings.
as they say.

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So, on top of the money...

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...you now had the awful tragedy

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of your dad dying.

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Yes, this is correct.

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How did you feel about Gerry
at this point?

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No good crying over spilt milk.

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Were you not angry with him?

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Because I'm wondering...

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I'm wondering
if maybe you arranged

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to meet him somewhere
on the 24th.

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No.

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SUNNY:
Not to tell him about your dad?

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Not because you were angry?

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No.
JESSICA:
Maybe...

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Maybe you rowed?

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You know,
maybe he pushed you again,

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and it all got out
of control?

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No-- no, no,

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no, no, no...

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I think he's answered
your questions,

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so unless you've got any
evidence you haven't mentioned,

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I think
we bring this to a close.

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(Marty's breath trembling)

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♪ ♪

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(phone ringing in background)

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JESSICA:
Let's R.U.I. him for now

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and do some more background
on that arrest.

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We better head.

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(birds chirping)

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(Melinda sighs)

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♪ ♪

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(car door opens)

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♪ ♪

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(clears throat softly)

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♪ ♪

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KANE:
Hey, Mel.

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Hey, Joseph,
how are you doing?
Good, thanks-- you?

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Uh, yeah, I'm fine.

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How's your man doing?

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Slow, but steady.

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Father Ryan being
very supportive, I hear.

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How can I help you, Joseph?

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Had a call from
a police officer in London,

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wanting to speak to you
about being a possible witness

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in a murder
investigation?

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Wow-- murder of whom?

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A man called Gerard Cooper.

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♪ ♪

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Yeah, I, I knew Gerry, he...

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He, he went missing
a few years back.

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Just before you came over here,
they said.

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Right.

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They asked if you
could make yourself

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available for a Zoom,
tomorrow at 4:00?

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Yeah, yeah,
I, I think I could do that.

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So just drop by the station,

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we'll take care of everything
our end,

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and I'll sit in with you.

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♪ ♪

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I mean, do, do I need a lawyer?

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Entirely up to you.

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See you tomorrow.

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♪ ♪

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(phone chimes)

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Oh, Murray's just
forwarded me an email

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from the lettings agency.

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So, the lettings agent

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thinks police were called to the
dispute she told him about.

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Okay, so, this guy Asif
would remember that, too, no?

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Look, these are
absolutely top-quality.

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From the same factory
that makes the genuine article.

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And, uh,

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the passport.
(car brakes squeak)

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How much?
MARK: Well, the passport,

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driver's license, and
the National Insurance card,

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I can do you for 7K.

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We do also
offer finance options,

09:34.466 --> 09:36.066 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55%
if that were something
you were interested in.

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A lot of people go for a
five-year replacement schedule,

09:38.800 --> 09:40.966 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5%
which makes it very
affordable...

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(continues indistinctly)

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♪ ♪

09:47.233 --> 09:49.200 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5%
Out the back-- now!

09:49.200 --> 09:49.833 align:left position:67.5% line:83% size:22.5%
(loudly):
Now!

09:50.933 --> 09:53.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
(speaking Dari)

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♪ ♪

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(door closes)

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(sniffs, clears throat)

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Hi.

10:10.166 --> 10:11.966 align:left position:52.5% line:5% size:37.5%
Hi-- Asif Syed?

10:11.966 --> 10:13.233 align:left position:45% line:5% size:45%
Yes.

10:13.233 --> 10:16.200 align:left position:52.5% line:5% size:37.5%
DCI Jess James,
and this is D.I. Sunil Khan.

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Um, have you got
five minutes for a quick chat?

10:18.300 --> 10:19.866 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
Uh, yes, maybe.

10:19.866 --> 10:21.633 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
Uh, about what, please?

10:21.633 --> 10:24.433 align:left position:45% line:5% size:45%
It's in connection
with a murder investigation.

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We think you might
have known the victim.

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Who was the victim?

10:28.066 --> 10:29.466 align:left position:47.5% line:5% size:42.5%
Could we come in?

10:29.466 --> 10:30.600 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50%
Yes, yes,

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please, of course.

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MAN (on phone speaker):
It's the Matrix, buddy.

10:37.700 --> 10:38.833 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
They're trying to shut
your voice down

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'cause you're a strong man.

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So what do you need to do?
MARTY:
I need to be

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one step ahead, man.

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MAN:
Be ahead or be dead, dude.

10:45.166 --> 10:46.900 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
Be ahead or be dead.

10:46.900 --> 10:48.566 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50%
(softly):
Ahead or be dead.

10:48.566 --> 10:50.133 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
Ahead or be dead.

10:50.133 --> 10:51.966 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
 
Ahead or be dead.

10:51.966 --> 10:55.733 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
Ahead or be dead--
ahead or be dead.

10:58.933 --> 11:00.533 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50%
(aloud):
Ahead or be dead.

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(sniffs)

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♪ ♪

11:19.400 --> 11:21.766 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
Ahead or be dead.

11:21.766 --> 11:24.400 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
Ahead or be dead.

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♪ ♪

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SUNNY:
This is him.

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Name of Gerard Cooper.

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(audio distorts)

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Yes, I, I think I remember him.

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And what do you

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think your connection
to him was?

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I work as an interpreter.

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And back then,
I worked with tenants

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whose rent was
being paid by the council.

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Uh, I think
he was one of the landlords.

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Um, what council

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was that?
Uh, Thamesford.

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Okay, and can you remember
specifically

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when you might have
encountered Mr. Cooper?

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I would have to check.

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Okay, uh, roughly, then.

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I think maybe it was
early on in the pandemic?

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Maybe the first year?

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I have a vague recollection

12:17.566 --> 12:19.733 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5%
of some COVID-related
issues.

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Okay, so it was, uh, 2020?
Yes.

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Do you have any recollection
of what he was like?

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Uh, I mean, I must've
met dozens of landlords

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in the three or four years
I was in London.

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Because the agency
that, uh, managed his portfolio

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said he was quite tricky.

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Did they?

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You don't remember that?

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I remember, um,

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he wasn't very good
at maintaining his properties.

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The agency said that.

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Anything else?

12:52.133 --> 12:53.666 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45%
Um...

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He could be

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quite aggressive.

12:57.200 --> 12:59.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
With you?
With the tenants,

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who obviously were often

13:02.066 --> 13:04.200 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5%
very vulnerable
people.

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And physically aggressive?
No.

13:05.800 --> 13:08.033 align:left position:30% line:77% size:60%
I never saw that.
Because we have an agent

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who gave us details
of several cases

13:09.666 --> 13:13.133 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
where disputes had blown up, uh,

13:13.133 --> 13:14.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
one in particular,

13:14.633 --> 13:17.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
which was a family
of asylum seekers from Herat,

13:17.766 --> 13:19.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
where it had turned violent.

13:19.966 --> 13:21.000 align:left position:57.5% line:89% size:32.5%
Which family?

13:21.000 --> 13:22.300 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5%
The Dowari family?

13:22.300 --> 13:25.000 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5%
(murmurs):
Dowari.

13:25.000 --> 13:27.933 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50%
As I say,
I must've dealt with many

13:27.933 --> 13:30.800 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
dozens of cases.

13:30.800 --> 13:32.333 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
Most of them were fractious.

13:32.333 --> 13:34.600 align:left position:75% line:77% size:15%
SUNNY:
Except the police
were called to this one.

13:34.600 --> 13:37.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
It was a dispute
about a chronic damp problem?

13:37.966 --> 13:40.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
The family had a toddler,
a newborn.

13:40.933 --> 13:42.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
It was making them all sick.

13:42.733 --> 13:45.800 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
The police getting involved
wasn't that rare, sadly.

13:45.800 --> 13:47.100 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
JESSICA:
Okay.

13:47.100 --> 13:50.600 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
Quite a distinctive case,
but you've no memory

13:50.600 --> 13:52.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
of that at all?

13:52.333 --> 13:55.466 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
They all just merge into one,
sorry.

13:55.466 --> 13:56.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
No worries.

13:56.900 --> 13:58.733 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
And, uh, when was the last time

13:58.733 --> 14:00.333 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
you think you might've seen
Mr. Cooper?

14:00.333 --> 14:02.000 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50%
(inhales)

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My contract with the council
ended in September 2020,

14:06.200 --> 14:08.300 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
so not after that.

14:08.300 --> 14:10.300 align:left position:42.5% line:5% size:47.5%
Right.
SUNNY:
And, um,

14:10.300 --> 14:11.833 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
do you mind me asking

14:11.833 --> 14:14.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
what your nationality is,
Asif?

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I hope to very soon be British.

14:16.666 --> 14:19.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Oh, well, good for you,
and welcome.

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This can be
a fabulous country.

14:21.133 --> 14:24.100 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5%
(chuckles):
Yes, it can, and thank you.

14:24.100 --> 14:25.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
And before that,
where are you from?

14:25.100 --> 14:26.266 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55%
Afghanistan.

14:26.266 --> 14:28.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
Oh, okay.

14:28.000 --> 14:29.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Well, that
must have been tough,

14:29.666 --> 14:32.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
to see your fellow countrymen
and countrywomen,

14:32.200 --> 14:34.033 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
vulnerable people,

14:34.033 --> 14:36.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
being mistreated often
by this man.

14:36.166 --> 14:38.133 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5%
Of course.

14:38.133 --> 14:39.533 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

14:39.533 --> 14:40.833 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
Did it make you angry or...?

14:44.566 --> 14:46.233 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5%
(chuckles)

14:48.200 --> 14:50.266 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
If I got angry every time

14:50.266 --> 14:52.300 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
I saw a refugee being treated
badly,

14:52.300 --> 14:57.133 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
I'd be living in a permanent
state of rage, D.I. Khan.

14:57.133 --> 15:00.566 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

15:00.566 --> 15:02.200 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
Thanks for your time.

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♪ ♪

15:06.333 --> 15:08.766 align:left position:27.5% line:71% size:62.5%
(car alarm chirps,
doors unlock)
(car door opens)

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SUNNY:
I think we need more detail
on this Dowari case.

15:10.933 --> 15:12.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
Mm-hmm.

15:13.966 --> 15:15.700 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

15:15.700 --> 15:16.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
(car doors close)

15:16.700 --> 15:17.966 align:left position:80% line:89% size:10%
Sam.

15:17.966 --> 15:19.400 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80%
Who was that?
(engine starts)

15:19.400 --> 15:22.133 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
Social services-- they wanted
some gen on a client.

15:23.333 --> 15:26.066 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

15:26.066 --> 15:28.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Can, can we talk,
please?

15:28.500 --> 15:30.100 align:left position:77.5% line:89% size:12.5%
Sure.

15:34.966 --> 15:37.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
Yeah, so, if Hassan moves out

15:37.900 --> 15:40.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
after he comes home from work
today,

15:40.066 --> 15:43.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and if you can minimize
any future contact with him,

15:43.933 --> 15:46.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
then...

15:46.733 --> 15:49.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Yeah, I'm happy
to just move on.

15:50.600 --> 15:51.900 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50%
(inhales)

15:51.900 --> 15:55.066 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
And if I don't agree to that?

15:55.066 --> 15:58.233 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5%
Oh, okay, why-- why

15:58.233 --> 16:00.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
do you immediately have
to turn this into a conflict?

16:00.733 --> 16:03.366 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
Says the man who's
just given me an ultimatum.

16:03.366 --> 16:04.366 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
No, it's not an ultimatum.

16:04.366 --> 16:05.733 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50%
No, you're not going

16:05.733 --> 16:08.700 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55%
to hold a gun
to my head because I did right

16:08.700 --> 16:11.033 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
by a man who saved your life
on at least two occasions.

16:11.033 --> 16:14.866 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80%
Okay, Asif...
And you know
what really winds me up?

16:17.400 --> 16:19.800 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5%
It's that you think
you can do this.

16:21.000 --> 16:22.033 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50%
Do what?

16:22.033 --> 16:23.200 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55%
Just tell me

16:23.200 --> 16:24.800 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
how it's going to be.

16:24.800 --> 16:26.866 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
You don't even consider
the idea

16:26.866 --> 16:28.733 align:left position:12.5% line:77% size:77.5%
of finding another way through.
No, is that

16:28.733 --> 16:31.033 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
not exactly what we're trying
to do right now?

16:31.033 --> 16:32.266 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45%
What?

16:32.266 --> 16:34.033 align:left position:65% line:83% size:25%
Telling me
what's going to happen?

16:34.033 --> 16:35.566 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5%
(chuckles)

16:35.566 --> 16:36.666 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
Not really, Sam.

16:40.033 --> 16:43.066 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
I'll play by the same rules.

16:44.733 --> 16:46.166 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
No.

16:47.533 --> 16:49.800 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
Hassan's not going anywhere.

16:53.166 --> 16:54.633 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
But

16:54.633 --> 16:56.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
this is my house.

16:58.733 --> 17:00.866 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
Then call the police.

17:04.466 --> 17:08.533 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

17:16.400 --> 17:18.033 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50%
JESSICA:
I mean, I never really

17:18.033 --> 17:20.900 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
believed him.

17:20.900 --> 17:23.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
But there was always
just enough ambiguity

17:23.700 --> 17:25.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
to make me think
we could get through it.

17:27.700 --> 17:29.533 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55%
Except now...

17:30.900 --> 17:33.566 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
If he could have done that...

17:35.433 --> 17:37.100 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
...he could do anything.

17:38.700 --> 17:39.733 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
Mm.

17:41.466 --> 17:43.100 align:left position:57.5% line:89% size:32.5%
So?

17:43.100 --> 17:44.133 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
So...

17:49.800 --> 17:50.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
What do I do?

17:54.633 --> 17:57.500 align:left position:42.5% line:77% size:47.5%
KAREN:
So, digging into
the Marty Baines caution,

17:57.500 --> 17:59.333 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
and it gets interesting.

18:00.433 --> 18:03.600 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50%
In 2016,
he studied a foundation course

18:03.600 --> 18:06.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
in computer programming
at the University of Ramsgate,

18:06.600 --> 18:09.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
but eight months in,
he's asked to leave

18:09.333 --> 18:12.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
after he starts to regularly
pick the locks of the rooms

18:12.300 --> 18:13.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
of his fellow students
in his halls

18:13.966 --> 18:16.366 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80%
and enter their rooms.
Right.

18:16.366 --> 18:18.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Now, he's not trying
to steal anything.

18:18.233 --> 18:19.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
They're just coming back
from the pub at night

18:19.700 --> 18:21.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
to find Marty sitting
on their beds

18:21.366 --> 18:22.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
in their rooms.

18:22.700 --> 18:23.700 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5%
Jesus.
Mm.

18:23.700 --> 18:24.833 align:left position:75% line:83% size:15%
SUNNY:
Male or female?

18:24.833 --> 18:26.566 align:left position:75% line:71% size:15%
KAREN:
Both.
Not at all scary.

18:26.566 --> 18:29.433 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80%
(sighs):
And, and how many times
did this happen?

18:29.433 --> 18:31.733 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50%
Well, the university
weren't really sure.

18:31.733 --> 18:33.000 align:left position:57.5% line:89% size:32.5%
Some students

18:33.000 --> 18:34.733 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
thought that maybe
they had forgotten

18:34.733 --> 18:36.900 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
to lock their rooms,
and so treated it more like

18:36.900 --> 18:40.666 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
Marty wandering in uninvited,
and so didn't report it, but

18:40.666 --> 18:42.933 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
there are three formal cases.

18:42.933 --> 18:44.666 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
Was there ever any violence?

18:44.666 --> 18:45.866 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55%
Not from him,

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and not from any
of the other students,

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until the last incident.

18:49.366 --> 18:51.900 align:left position:37.5% line:77% size:52.5%
Which was?
So,

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one bloke comes back
from the pub, pissed up,

18:54.600 --> 18:56.433 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
to find Marty in his room,

18:56.433 --> 18:58.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
and kind of loses it--
calls him all kinds of stuff.

18:58.900 --> 19:01.666 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Which ends up with Marty
trying to strangle him.

19:01.666 --> 19:03.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Whoa-- what, like,
properly strangle?

19:03.900 --> 19:05.000 align:left position:77.5% line:89% size:12.5%
Yeah.

19:05.000 --> 19:06.600 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
He had to be pulled away
by the guy's mates.

19:06.600 --> 19:07.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Takes three of them,
apparently.

19:07.900 --> 19:09.266 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45%
Wow.

19:09.266 --> 19:11.433 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80%
How come he only got
a caution?
KAREN: So, the student

19:11.433 --> 19:13.133 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
didn't want
to pursue anything.

19:13.133 --> 19:15.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
He admitted to the investigating
officer that he'd used

19:15.166 --> 19:17.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
inappropriate language
about disability,

19:17.333 --> 19:19.366 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
and was scared it was gonna
be brought up in court.

19:19.366 --> 19:20.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
SUNNY:
Hm, and do we know

19:20.866 --> 19:23.766 align:left position:20% line:77% size:70%
why Marty was doing this?
He said

19:23.766 --> 19:26.933 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
he was just looking
for a friend to talk to.

19:26.933 --> 19:28.600 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
(inhales softly)

19:28.600 --> 19:30.400 align:left position:72.5% line:83% size:17.5%
MURRAY:
In terms of any potential link

19:30.400 --> 19:31.766 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55%
to violence,

19:31.766 --> 19:33.033 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
I've just received
the evidence list

19:33.033 --> 19:34.600 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
for the assault on Cooper

19:34.600 --> 19:36.033 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80%
in his pub car park?
Oh, yeah?

19:36.033 --> 19:37.133 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55%
What we got?

19:37.133 --> 19:38.833 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
Well, we've got
Cooper's sweatshirt,

19:38.833 --> 19:40.333 align:left position:15% line:83% size:75%
and they've taken DNA off it,
so,

19:40.333 --> 19:41.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
we've got material
for comparison.

19:41.533 --> 19:42.566 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5%
Nice one-- thanks.

19:42.566 --> 19:44.000 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45%
So, Melinda Ricci,

19:44.000 --> 19:45.433 align:left position:55% line:89% size:35%
tell me stuff.

19:45.433 --> 19:46.933 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
(clears throat)

19:46.933 --> 19:50.000 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
Okay, so, born in 1978

19:50.000 --> 19:52.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
in a small market town
in Surrey,

19:52.233 --> 19:55.466 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
went to a local Catholic girls'
school, got decent As,

19:55.466 --> 19:57.533 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
went to Rochester Uni
to study marketing,

19:57.533 --> 19:59.933 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
then enlisted in the Navy.

19:59.933 --> 20:02.766 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
Served four years
and left in 2005

20:02.766 --> 20:04.466 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
following a disciplinary issue
involving

20:04.466 --> 20:06.266 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
a fellow officer--
a fellow Muslim officer.

20:06.266 --> 20:08.633 align:left position:65% line:83% size:25%
(inhales):
She then started her own

20:08.633 --> 20:09.766 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
green beauty business,

20:09.766 --> 20:12.033 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
which gained the attention
of some red tops

20:12.033 --> 20:13.566 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
following an advertising
campaign

20:13.566 --> 20:15.233 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
she herself featured in.

20:15.233 --> 20:17.933 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
After the 2008 crash,

20:17.933 --> 20:19.266 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
the business went bankrupt,

20:19.266 --> 20:21.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and she lost her home
and had to rent.

20:21.366 --> 20:23.400 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
And it was a bad experience
with an Asian landlord

20:23.400 --> 20:26.033 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
prompting this online rant,

20:26.033 --> 20:28.066 align:left position:50% line:89% size:40%
uh, which gained

20:28.066 --> 20:29.966 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
half a million views, um,

20:29.966 --> 20:33.300 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
got her an invitation to write
an article for the "Mail,"

20:33.300 --> 20:35.333 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
which went down so well,
it led to a weekly column.

20:35.333 --> 20:37.066 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5%
SUNNY:
What sort of column?

20:37.066 --> 20:39.333 align:left position:45% line:77% size:45%
FRAN:
Opinions-- of which
you know, she has a lot.

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On?

20:40.533 --> 20:42.466 align:left position:77.5% line:77% size:12.5%
FRAN:
Uh, recurring themes
include

20:42.466 --> 20:43.866 align:left position:60% line:83% size:30%
immigration,
benefit cheats,

20:43.866 --> 20:47.366 align:left position:57.5% line:89% size:32.5%
the E.U., um,

20:47.366 --> 20:49.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
anti-abortion stuff,

20:49.700 --> 20:51.500 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55%
uh, arming the police,

20:51.500 --> 20:53.000 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45%
all as self-styled

20:53.000 --> 20:54.800 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5%
Sister Mel.

20:54.800 --> 20:56.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
Ah-- she's not

20:56.600 --> 20:58.433 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5%
a real nun, right?

20:58.433 --> 21:01.100 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
She spent six months
in a convent in Wicklow in 2009,

21:01.100 --> 21:02.733 align:left position:67.5% line:83% size:22.5%
actually.
Oh!

21:02.733 --> 21:03.900 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
And the column ran
from when to when?

21:03.900 --> 21:05.333 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55%
2015 to 2020,

21:05.333 --> 21:08.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
but she also wrote for
pretty much every red top

21:08.000 --> 21:10.366 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
and also started popping up on

21:10.366 --> 21:11.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
breakfast TV guest spots.

21:11.733 --> 21:13.900 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55%
And when was
that Boris Johnson

21:13.900 --> 21:15.266 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5%
retweet-post thing?

21:15.266 --> 21:17.500 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45%
FRAN:
Uh, October 2016.

21:17.500 --> 21:18.866 align:left position:42.5% line:77% size:47.5%
SUNNY:
Do we know
why she moved to Ireland?

21:18.866 --> 21:20.200 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45%
FRAN:
No, just that she went there

21:20.200 --> 21:21.600 align:left position:70% line:89% size:20%
in 2021.

21:21.600 --> 21:22.600 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45%
Okay.
(sighs)

21:22.600 --> 21:24.066 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
Thanks, Fran-- right.

21:24.066 --> 21:25.600 align:left position:67.5% line:83% size:22.5%
Shall we?
Mm.

21:25.600 --> 21:27.700 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

21:27.700 --> 21:30.100 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
(siren blaring in distance)

21:30.100 --> 21:32.300 align:left position:37.5% line:83% size:52.5%
(mutters):
Jesus.

21:34.300 --> 21:35.733 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5%
(sighs)

21:42.433 --> 21:44.166 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80%
What are you doing?
Eating a sandwich.

21:44.166 --> 21:45.766 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
What are you doing here?

21:45.766 --> 21:47.700 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40%
I didn't want to
go back.

21:47.700 --> 21:49.800 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50%
(sighs):
You have to go back.

21:49.800 --> 21:52.466 align:left position:32.5% line:77% size:57.5%
I really don't.
Yes, you do.

21:52.466 --> 21:53.800 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
If you still hate it
at the end of this year,

21:53.800 --> 21:55.400 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
then we can talk
about moving you,

21:55.400 --> 21:56.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
but right now,
I need you to just...

21:56.400 --> 21:57.433 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5%
Was it you?

21:57.433 --> 21:58.933 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55%
Was what me?

22:03.900 --> 22:05.333 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
Who killed Dad.

22:06.966 --> 22:08.433 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45%
What?

22:09.866 --> 22:11.233 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5%
Was it?

22:13.833 --> 22:15.200 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
How can you even ask me that?

22:15.200 --> 22:16.500 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
Well, you haven't said, "No."

22:16.500 --> 22:21.800 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

22:21.800 --> 22:23.200 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
(voice trembles): No.

22:24.733 --> 22:26.366 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55%
It wasn't me.

22:27.800 --> 22:29.133 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
You don't seem that sure.

22:29.133 --> 22:33.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
I'm very sure, I'm just in shock

22:33.433 --> 22:35.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
that you could even
think that.

22:35.900 --> 22:39.433 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
No-- a thousand times, no.

22:39.433 --> 22:40.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
No.

22:44.533 --> 22:46.233 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
Have you told the police
about the row that night?

22:48.300 --> 22:49.666 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50%
What row?

22:51.433 --> 22:52.866 align:left position:12.5% line:5% size:77.5%
Do you think I don't remember?

22:54.500 --> 22:56.533 align:left position:45% line:5% size:45%
I remember it all.

22:56.533 --> 22:58.700 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
Very clearly, Mum.

23:01.300 --> 23:04.233 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
It was just one of our rows.

23:04.233 --> 23:08.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
Okay? Nothing more.

23:08.000 --> 23:11.966 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
I would never have hurt
your father, Tay, never.

23:13.833 --> 23:16.000 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

23:16.000 --> 23:18.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
But I do want you
to promise me something.

23:18.500 --> 23:20.000 align:left position:45% line:5% size:45%
What?

23:20.000 --> 23:21.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
I want you to promise me

23:21.133 --> 23:23.366 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
that you'll never mention
that row,

23:23.366 --> 23:25.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
or, in fact, any of the others,
to the police.

23:25.866 --> 23:27.833 align:left position:45% line:5% size:45%
Why?

23:27.833 --> 23:29.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
Because they will almost
certainly

23:29.333 --> 23:30.966 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
come to all the wrong
conclusions,

23:30.966 --> 23:32.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
and it, it's just not worth it.

23:32.533 --> 23:34.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
Will you promise me that?

23:37.966 --> 23:39.766 align:left position:47.5% line:5% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

23:39.766 --> 23:41.466 align:left position:55% line:5% size:35%
There's, um...

23:44.000 --> 23:46.266 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
There's, uh...

23:46.266 --> 23:47.666 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
(clears throat):
...something I

23:47.666 --> 23:49.466 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
never told you.

23:51.233 --> 23:53.433 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
(gulls calling)

23:53.433 --> 23:55.233 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
JESSICA (on computer):
So thanks for taking the time

23:55.233 --> 23:56.333 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
to speak to us.

23:56.333 --> 23:57.666 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
No problem at all.

23:57.666 --> 23:59.033 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
Um, can I dive straight in,
Melinda,

23:59.033 --> 24:00.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
and ask you how
you knew Mr. Cooper?

24:01.733 --> 24:03.166 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
(audio distorts)

24:03.166 --> 24:05.533 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5%
Sure, um...

24:05.533 --> 24:09.000 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
I met him initially at
a political thing he'd started.

24:09.000 --> 24:11.033 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
This was U.K. United?

24:11.033 --> 24:12.133 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50%
MELINDA:
Yes.

24:12.133 --> 24:13.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
So when was that,
exactly?

24:13.300 --> 24:17.333 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
That would have been late 2015,
I guess?

24:17.333 --> 24:19.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
And you hit it off
straight away?

24:19.533 --> 24:22.333 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5%
Yeah, kind of, mm.

24:22.333 --> 24:24.500 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
We shared a similar outlook
on the world,

24:24.500 --> 24:26.266 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
sense of humor.

24:26.266 --> 24:27.933 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Neither of us were afraid
to call it as we saw it.

24:27.933 --> 24:30.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
And you became friends,
would you say?

24:31.200 --> 24:32.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
Yes, briefly.

24:32.733 --> 24:33.966 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
Briefly?

24:35.600 --> 24:37.500 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
Yeah, we

24:37.500 --> 24:39.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
ran into each other
a few times

24:39.200 --> 24:40.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
over the next few months.

24:40.866 --> 24:43.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
I think I might have had lunch
with him once.

24:43.700 --> 24:45.000 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Right.

24:45.000 --> 24:46.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
So, it didn't develop
into anything more?

24:46.466 --> 24:47.866 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5%
Like what?

24:47.866 --> 24:49.400 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5%
Like a romantic
relationship.

24:49.400 --> 24:50.466 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
No.

24:51.566 --> 24:52.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
Right.

24:52.833 --> 24:54.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Uh, because we spoke
to a witness

24:54.233 --> 24:56.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
who suggested it did.

24:56.166 --> 24:57.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
What witness?

24:57.433 --> 25:00.966 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80%
JESSICA:
An old friend of his
who ran into you both

25:00.966 --> 25:03.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
in a pub in Aldgate
in 2020.

25:04.900 --> 25:08.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Well, it, that was then.
(chuckles)

25:08.333 --> 25:10.733 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
Sorry, I'm confused--
are you saying that you did

25:10.733 --> 25:12.200 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
have a relationship with him,
or you didn't?

25:12.200 --> 25:15.800 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5%
Yes, I did.

25:15.800 --> 25:18.633 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
A very brief one,
just not when you were saying.

25:18.633 --> 25:21.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
My question didn't actually
specify a timeframe,

25:21.933 --> 25:23.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
but that's, that's fine.

25:23.766 --> 25:26.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
So, um, spell it out nice
and clearly for us.

25:26.900 --> 25:28.900 align:left position:50% line:5% size:40%
When did you two
get together?

25:28.900 --> 25:31.466 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
Um, summer of 2020,

25:31.466 --> 25:32.900 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
just as things
were opening up again.

25:32.900 --> 25:36.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
And when you say "brief"...

25:36.866 --> 25:39.733 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
Um, just a few weeks--
two months at the most.

25:39.733 --> 25:41.633 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
And did his wife know
about this?

25:42.633 --> 25:44.000 align:left position:35% line:5% size:55%
I've no idea.

25:44.000 --> 25:46.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
But you think you weren't
seeing him

25:46.000 --> 25:48.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
in February 2021.
No.

25:48.266 --> 25:50.400 align:left position:20% line:5% size:70%
But you were still living
in the U.K. at this point?

25:50.400 --> 25:51.633 align:left position:45% line:5% size:45%
Yes.

25:51.633 --> 25:53.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
SUNNY:
So, when exactly did
you move to Ireland?

25:53.566 --> 25:55.366 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
Uh, early March 2021.

25:55.366 --> 25:57.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
Okay, so, just a couple of weeks

25:57.433 --> 25:58.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
after he disappeared.

25:58.666 --> 25:59.866 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5%
Well, I obviously had
no idea about that.

25:59.866 --> 26:01.100 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
You didn't know
he'd gone missing?

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No.

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So, when did you
find out?

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A mutual friend told me,
months later.

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How?

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Uh, they messaged me,
I think.

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Mm.

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Can you forward that to us?

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Actually, no, wait, I, uh...

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It...

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It might have been a call.

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Okay, uh, well, I think
we'll come back to that.

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And what prompted
the move to Ireland?

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Um, I used to come on holiday
here as a kid.

26:28.633 --> 26:30.733 align:left position:10% line:77% size:80%
 
My dad was born here.

26:30.733 --> 26:32.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
I was feeling a bit
burned out from London,

26:32.733 --> 26:35.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and then, when I got
offered the job with BNC,

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I could do that
from anywhere, so,

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change as good as a rest.

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And so when do you think

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was the last time
you might have seen him?

26:42.766 --> 26:44.866 align:left position:32.5% line:5% size:57.5%
Oh, maybe, um,

26:44.866 --> 26:48.233 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
October, November 2020.

26:48.233 --> 26:49.766 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50%
So, this was just as
your relationship

26:49.766 --> 26:50.766 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5%
was coming to an end?

26:50.766 --> 26:52.000 align:left position:45% line:5% size:45%
Yes.

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JESSICA:
And how did it end?

26:53.366 --> 26:55.000 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
Oh, just fizzled out,
really.

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No rows?
No.

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No fights?

26:57.633 --> 26:58.766 align:left position:47.5% line:5% size:42.5%
No.

26:58.766 --> 27:00.533 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
Because we do have a fair
amount of evidence

27:00.533 --> 27:02.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
to suggest he could
get violent.

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Not with me.

27:04.166 --> 27:05.966 align:left position:45% line:5% size:45%
Okay.

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Um, were you aware of anyone

27:08.766 --> 27:11.266 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
that you'd come into contact
with, through him,

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who you might have wanted
to do him harm?

27:13.300 --> 27:14.800 align:left position:47.5% line:5% size:42.5%
No.

27:14.800 --> 27:16.800 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
But, like I said,

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I, I didn't actually know him
that well.

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Our lives weren't
that intertwined.

27:21.266 --> 27:23.066 align:left position:70% line:89% size:20%
Okay.

27:23.066 --> 27:24.933 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
And if we needed to know
where you were

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on the 24th of February
2021,

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would you be able to provide us
with that information?

27:28.500 --> 27:29.966 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55%
I could try.

27:29.966 --> 27:31.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
Any proof will do.

27:31.000 --> 27:32.000 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45%
Sure.

27:32.000 --> 27:33.233 align:left position:65% line:83% size:25%
Obviously,
you have our email.

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I do.

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JESSICA (inhales): Okay.

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Anything else you'd like
to add?

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Anything else
you think might be relevant?

27:40.533 --> 27:42.600 align:left position:37.5% line:5% size:52.5%
(blows out)

27:42.600 --> 27:43.833 align:left position:47.5% line:5% size:42.5%
No.
Okay.

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Thanks so much
for your time.

27:45.633 --> 27:47.766 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
You're so welcome--
you have a nice day.

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You, too.

27:51.133 --> 27:55.566 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

27:55.566 --> 27:57.633 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
(sighs)

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So, he was violent
to her, yeah?

28:00.766 --> 28:03.833 align:left position:65% line:89% size:25%
100%.

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(birds chirping)

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♪ ♪

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(objects shifting)

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♪ ♪

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♪ ♪

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♪ ♪

28:54.766 --> 28:57.700 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
(mouse clicking)

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(phone ringing in background)

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♪ ♪

29:24.100 --> 29:25.766 align:left position:62.5% line:89% size:27.5%
(blows out)

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(chair creaks)

29:28.400 --> 29:30.633 align:left position:67.5% line:83% size:22.5%
(softly):
It's just, this site...

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♪ ♪

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(talking indistinctly)

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(brakes squeaking)

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MAN (on megaphone):
Okay.

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Can everyone please stop
what they are doing

29:45.033 --> 29:47.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and stay exactly
where they are?

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(all murmuring)
We're officers of

29:48.100 --> 29:49.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
the Immigration
Enforcement Agency,

29:49.866 --> 29:51.833 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and we believe that
some of you working here today

29:51.833 --> 29:54.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
may be doing so illegally.

29:56.066 --> 29:57.966 align:left position:12.5% line:89% size:77.5%
(phones ringing in background)

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MURRAY:
So, Martin Baines' phone...

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Melinda Ricci emailed,
can't find the diaries

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for that year.
No way!

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(scoffs):
Just calling it
as she sees it.

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(chuckles):
Sorry, Murray, carry on.
SUNNY: Sorry.

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Martin Baines'
phone records

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show multiple calls
to a landline

30:10.600 --> 30:12.966 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
which has the same address
as the Three Crowns pub.

30:12.966 --> 30:15.733 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50%
Also, multiple texts
to a Gerry

30:15.733 --> 30:17.600 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50%
which are very angry
and threatening in nature.

30:17.600 --> 30:19.933 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
But weirdly, they don't stop
after the 24th.

30:19.933 --> 30:22.000 align:left position:42.5% line:71% size:47.5%
Right.
SUNNY:
Although you'd do that

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if you were covering
your tracks.
Fair point.

30:24.300 --> 30:26.266 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
But listen, we still need
to take a swab from him

30:26.266 --> 30:28.100 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
for the assault
in the car park.

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Can we get someone
down there?
Yeah, I can sort.

30:30.700 --> 30:32.100 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
And where are we
on Cooper's records?

30:32.100 --> 30:34.033 align:left position:62.5% line:71% size:27.5%
(blows out)
So, we've obviously
looked at

30:34.033 --> 30:36.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
a fair amount of
his open-source stuff.

30:36.733 --> 30:37.866 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
He used
a number of platforms--

30:37.866 --> 30:39.200 align:left position:52.5% line:89% size:37.5%
Parler, Reddit,

30:39.200 --> 30:40.333 align:left position:42.5% line:77% size:47.5%
obviously, Twitter.
X.

30:40.333 --> 30:41.733 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5%
X.

30:41.733 --> 30:43.233 align:left position:47.5% line:83% size:42.5%
 
And?

30:43.233 --> 30:45.300 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
Endless fights on X,

30:45.300 --> 30:47.700 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
very aggressive
and hate speech-y from him,

30:47.700 --> 30:49.766 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
but perhaps more significantly,
to him.

30:49.766 --> 30:51.966 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
Any physical threats to him?

30:51.966 --> 30:54.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
Dozens, that we've found so far.

30:54.166 --> 30:55.766 align:left position:45% line:77% size:45%
And death threats.
Mm-hmm.

30:55.766 --> 30:57.466 align:left position:20% line:71% size:70%
And the rows were about?
Everything that
you'd expect

30:57.466 --> 30:58.633 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
from what we're now
learning about him.

30:58.633 --> 31:00.266 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
Um, immigration, lockdown,

31:00.266 --> 31:02.033 align:left position:52.5% line:83% size:37.5%
grooming gangs,
vaccines--

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it's gammon bingo.

31:03.133 --> 31:04.266 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5%
You can't say that.

31:04.266 --> 31:06.200 align:left position:32.5% line:77% size:57.5%
(both chuckle)
Emails and texts

31:06.200 --> 31:07.333 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45%
have just come in.

31:07.333 --> 31:08.333 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
I'm getting them printed up.

31:08.333 --> 31:09.333 align:left position:55% line:89% size:35%
Triangulation,

31:09.333 --> 31:10.333 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
still waiting on.

31:10.333 --> 31:11.466 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45%
Man.
(sighs)

31:11.466 --> 31:12.466 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
I would've loved
to have been

31:12.466 --> 31:13.500 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
a fly on the wall
in that house.

31:15.300 --> 31:17.500 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
Well, the daughter was.

31:17.500 --> 31:18.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
I mean,
if this was

31:18.800 --> 31:20.533 align:left position:35% line:83% size:55%
some sort of
coercive toxic marriage

31:20.533 --> 31:22.066 align:left position:57.5% line:89% size:32.5%
that blew up,

31:22.066 --> 31:24.133 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
she would've witnessed it,
right?

31:24.133 --> 31:25.766 align:left position:25% line:83% size:65%
She'd have certainly
seen something.

31:27.066 --> 31:28.666 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
I wonder if the school
would let us talk to her there.

31:29.800 --> 31:32.066 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
Why don't we call them?

31:32.066 --> 31:33.966 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

31:33.966 --> 31:35.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
(knock at door)

31:35.566 --> 31:36.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
(door opens)

31:37.900 --> 31:39.233 align:left position:80% line:77% size:10%
Hey.
Hi.

31:39.233 --> 31:40.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
Just, uh,

31:40.966 --> 31:42.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
just wondered
if you got my email.

31:43.766 --> 31:45.400 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5%
Uh, no.

31:45.400 --> 31:48.566 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
Sorry, been a bit...

31:48.566 --> 31:50.133 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
What did it say?

31:50.133 --> 31:53.000 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
Uh, the board want a meeting.

31:53.000 --> 31:56.100 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
They, they think
they have a solution.

31:57.166 --> 31:58.400 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
What solution?

31:58.400 --> 32:00.333 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
Well, obviously,

32:00.333 --> 32:02.300 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
uh, you're aware
that funding's on the floor

32:02.300 --> 32:03.866 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
for the next five years, anyway,

32:03.866 --> 32:06.000 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
so, basically, um...

32:08.066 --> 32:11.100 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
They want to offer you
early retirement.

32:11.100 --> 32:16.133 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

32:17.333 --> 32:20.766 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
(breathes deeply)

32:26.166 --> 32:28.600 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

32:28.600 --> 32:30.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
FALLON:
Asif was a lovely guy.

32:30.233 --> 32:31.900 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Couldn't do enough
for people.

32:31.900 --> 32:33.833 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
And I presume that includes
the Dowari family.

32:33.833 --> 32:34.833 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
Absolutely.

32:34.833 --> 32:36.700 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
In fact, I ran into him

32:36.700 --> 32:38.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
a few months after
he stopped working for us,

32:38.333 --> 32:40.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
and he told me he was
still in contact with them,

32:40.466 --> 32:43.800 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
still helping them,
all pro bono.

32:43.800 --> 32:46.633 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
Did you personally ever
see him have any interaction

32:46.633 --> 32:47.866 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5%
with Gerard Cooper?

32:47.866 --> 32:49.166 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
A few times, yeah.

32:49.166 --> 32:50.333 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
What was he like with him?

32:50.333 --> 32:52.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Always incredibly
polite.

32:52.666 --> 32:54.300 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Very quietly spoken.

32:54.300 --> 32:56.166 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Very diplomatic.

32:56.166 --> 32:57.466 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40%
So, he never got
wound up by him?

32:57.466 --> 32:58.600 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
Not to his face, no.

32:58.600 --> 32:59.900 align:left position:50% line:83% size:40%
How do you mean,
not to his face?

32:59.900 --> 33:02.466 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
I gave him a lift
to another rental one time.

33:02.466 --> 33:04.166 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
It was on my way back to
the office, and he said

33:04.166 --> 33:07.133 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
back in his country,
in his village,

33:07.133 --> 33:08.700 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
people like Cooper
got dealt with.

33:08.700 --> 33:10.733 align:left position:47.5% line:5% size:42.5%
What do you think
he meant by that?

33:10.733 --> 33:11.933 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
I don't know.

33:11.933 --> 33:13.766 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
I just remember there was
something in his eyes

33:13.766 --> 33:15.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
when he said it that
sent a chill down my spine.

33:15.666 --> 33:17.133 align:left position:47.5% line:5% size:42.5%
And the Dowaris--
can I speak to them?

33:17.133 --> 33:18.966 align:left position:25% line:5% size:65%
If you can find them.

33:18.966 --> 33:22.633 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
We moved them from Cooper's flat
to another in February 2021,

33:22.633 --> 33:24.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
and then, a few weeks later,

33:24.733 --> 33:26.566 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
they just upped and left
one night.

33:26.566 --> 33:27.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
Completely dropped out of
the system.

33:27.833 --> 33:29.033 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
Specifically when

33:29.033 --> 33:31.333 align:left position:42.5% line:5% size:47.5%
did they disappear?

33:31.333 --> 33:34.166 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
February 28, 2021.

33:34.166 --> 33:35.900 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

33:35.900 --> 33:37.600 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
Can I have their
last address, please?

33:38.833 --> 33:41.266 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
MURRAY (voiceover):
For elimination purposes,

33:41.266 --> 33:43.800 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
I really think we should
swab Asif Syed.

33:43.800 --> 33:45.000 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5%
On it.

33:45.000 --> 33:48.066 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

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(entering number on desk phone)

33:50.033 --> 33:53.833 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
So these are text messages
from 2019-2020,

33:53.833 --> 33:55.033 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
and you don't have
to read too many

33:55.033 --> 33:56.366 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
to realize that they were

33:56.366 --> 33:58.300 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
quite clearly in a relationship
at this point.

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"Hey, at work and can't stop
replaying last night.

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"Getting hard just thinking
about you.

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G. Kiss, kiss, kiss."

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Yeah, last of the
great charmers.

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That's, uh,
February 2020.

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Okay.

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Um...

34:13.333 --> 34:17.066 align:left position:52.5% line:5% size:37.5%
"Eurostar full,
how about we fly?"

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"J. and T. away with her mum
for the weekend.

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Shall we play?"

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That's April 2019.

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Mm, so, we've got emails
going between them

34:25.300 --> 34:27.433 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
from late 2018,

34:27.433 --> 34:30.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
which is when the relationship
seemed to have started.

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Okay, so she flat-out lied.

34:32.133 --> 34:33.666 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
Mm, yeah.

34:33.666 --> 34:36.000 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
It all seems to go sour

34:36.000 --> 34:37.900 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
sort of start of 2021?

34:37.900 --> 34:41.233 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
My guess is that he knew
not to write down too much,

34:41.233 --> 34:43.866 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
uh, but I did find
these three messages.

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These are just
from his side,

34:45.900 --> 34:48.200 align:left position:45% line:5% size:45%
and these are from
February 2021.

34:48.200 --> 34:50.533 align:left position:22.5% line:5% size:67.5%
"Do not ignore me, Mel,
or you will regret it."

34:50.533 --> 34:51.833 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
Yeah.

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Uh, "Mel, call me.

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"We can still discuss
the amount.

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I am open to discussion."

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And this last one is from

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the 15th of February.

35:00.733 --> 35:01.733 align:left position:10% line:5% size:80%
"If you make me lose

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"everything I have
ever worked for,

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"I swear to God, I will

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mess you up."

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Okay, so these are
blackmail threats.

35:09.866 --> 35:12.266 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
Mm, from a person
we know was violent.

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(sighs)

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Do you think
they could have met?

35:18.966 --> 35:20.433 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45%
Who?

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Uh, Melinda and Juliet.

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♪ ♪

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Wow.

35:28.466 --> 35:30.933 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
No, it's just a thought.

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Okay, uh...

35:34.833 --> 35:37.700 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
One of us has to go over there,
and it can't be me.

35:37.700 --> 35:39.266 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45%
Okay.
Sorry.

35:39.266 --> 35:40.266 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
Uh, no, that's fine...

35:40.266 --> 35:41.300 align:left position:65% line:89% size:25%
It's just,

35:41.300 --> 35:43.266 align:left position:62.5% line:89% size:27.5%
I, I, um...

35:43.266 --> 35:44.400 align:left position:60% line:89% size:30%
I still have

35:44.400 --> 35:46.533 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
stuff going on at, at home,
Sunny.

35:46.533 --> 35:48.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
No, you don't have
to explain.

35:48.066 --> 35:49.466 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5%
I, I'm sorry,
because I know we,

35:49.466 --> 35:53.900 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
you know, we, we both shared
before, but, um...

35:53.900 --> 35:55.500 align:left position:60% line:89% size:30%
(stammering)

35:55.500 --> 35:57.700 align:left position:67.5% line:83% size:22.5%
(laughs):
To be honest, it is just

35:57.700 --> 35:59.633 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50%
so damn complicated,

35:59.633 --> 36:01.600 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50%
I wouldn't even know
where to begin.

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Seriously, no worries at all.

36:04.200 --> 36:08.366 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
But also, you know,
I'm here if you...

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Thank you.

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Seriously, thank you.

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Okay, right.

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♪ ♪

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(talking indistinctly)

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Um, sorry-- hey, Lee.

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Hey, how you doing?

36:31.966 --> 36:35.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Yeah, all, all great, thanks--
uh, did you get my message?

36:35.466 --> 36:38.700 align:left position:27.5% line:83% size:62.5%
Yeah, really sorry,
I've been mad busy, but, um,

36:38.700 --> 36:40.033 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
I'll call you.

36:40.033 --> 36:42.666 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5%
Yeah, I... No rush.

36:42.666 --> 36:43.733 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5%
Just, yeah.

36:43.733 --> 36:44.900 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45%
Yeah.

36:44.900 --> 36:46.066 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
Speak soon, then.

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Uh, yeah,

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Uh, yeah.

36:50.133 --> 36:51.900 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
Sorry to, uh, interrupt.

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♪ ♪

36:53.666 --> 36:55.333 align:left position:80% line:77% size:10%
MAN:
So what I was saying
is that financially...

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♪ ♪

37:00.500 --> 37:05.233 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
(gulls squawking)

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It'll just be
ten seconds.

37:08.100 --> 37:11.100 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Alison said she needed
to be here if you spoke to me,

37:11.100 --> 37:12.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
so where,
where's Alison?

37:12.766 --> 37:14.300 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
I didn't want to get her
all the way down here

37:14.300 --> 37:15.900 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
just for a swab, Marty.

37:15.900 --> 37:17.433 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
DOT:
Come on, love.

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Help the young lady out, huh?

37:20.233 --> 37:21.366 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5%
Okey-dokey,

37:21.366 --> 37:23.000 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
pig in a pokey.

37:26.066 --> 37:27.600 align:left position:77.5% line:89% size:12.5%
I, I,

37:27.600 --> 37:28.966 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
so, just give me a minute.

37:28.966 --> 37:31.233 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

37:36.033 --> 37:37.666 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45%
Okay.

37:37.666 --> 37:38.866 align:left position:37.5% line:89% size:52.5%
Here we go.

37:38.866 --> 37:43.100 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

37:46.133 --> 37:47.966 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
(footsteps approach)

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Hey.

37:49.366 --> 37:50.633 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45%
Hey.

37:54.300 --> 37:56.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
Is Hassan not here?

37:56.566 --> 37:58.566 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5%
He's not back
from work yet.

38:00.700 --> 38:02.233 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45%
Look,

38:02.233 --> 38:05.333 align:left position:12.5% line:83% size:77.5%
Asif, I've been thinking about
everything you said, and...

38:06.633 --> 38:08.633 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
I'm, I'm sorry.

38:10.233 --> 38:12.400 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
I, I really am.

38:12.400 --> 38:14.300 align:left position:40% line:89% size:50%
(exhales)

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Asif,

38:15.800 --> 38:18.066 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
you, you cope so well.

38:19.966 --> 38:23.066 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
You're so, so strong,
that

38:23.066 --> 38:25.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
I, I forget what
you've been through.

38:27.533 --> 38:31.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
But, I mean,
the truth is, I...

38:31.733 --> 38:34.333 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
I can't even
begin to imagine

38:34.333 --> 38:36.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
what it must have been like
for you.

38:39.666 --> 38:42.200 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
And I do

38:42.200 --> 38:44.666 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
completely understand
your anger.

38:48.533 --> 38:50.233 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
And...

38:50.233 --> 38:52.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Listen.

38:52.500 --> 38:54.766 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
I want to try and help.

38:57.300 --> 38:59.400 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
(heavy knock at door)

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♪ ♪

39:10.100 --> 39:11.866 align:left position:57.5% line:89% size:32.5%
Evening, sir.

39:11.866 --> 39:13.566 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5%
Hello.

39:13.566 --> 39:15.233 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45%
Is this your home?

39:15.233 --> 39:16.500 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
Uh, it is, yeah.

39:16.500 --> 39:17.833 align:left position:25% line:89% size:65%
You're Samuel Collet?

39:17.833 --> 39:19.000 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45%
Yes.

39:19.000 --> 39:20.533 align:left position:62.5% line:83% size:27.5%
Mr. Collet,
my name is

39:20.533 --> 39:22.900 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Officer Hughes from the
Immigration Enforcement Unit.

39:22.900 --> 39:25.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
I have a warrant
to search these premises

39:25.700 --> 39:28.200 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50%
under Section 28D of
the Immigration Act 1971,

39:28.200 --> 39:31.366 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
with regard to information
gained on an earlier raid today.

39:31.366 --> 39:33.166 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35%
Are we okay to
come in, please?

39:34.200 --> 39:36.133 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
Yeah, yeah, sure.

39:38.966 --> 39:41.766 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

39:41.766 --> 39:42.800 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
(door closes)

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♪ ♪

39:52.833 --> 39:58.300 align:left position:47.5% line:5% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

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Enjoy your flight, sir.

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Thanks.

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♪ ♪

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(birds chirping)

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♪ ♪

40:23.500 --> 40:27.866 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

40:27.866 --> 40:29.000 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5%
DOREEN:
Marty?

40:29.000 --> 40:30.300 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
Marty, come on!

40:30.300 --> 40:31.666 align:left position:27.5% line:89% size:62.5%
(knocking heavily)

40:32.633 --> 40:33.766 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50%
(grunts)

40:33.766 --> 40:37.233 align:left position:17.5% line:5% size:72.5%
Why have you double-locked
the door, Marty?

40:37.233 --> 40:39.366 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
I just need to see Mum,
sweetheart.

40:39.366 --> 40:40.833 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
Please let me in.

40:40.833 --> 40:44.866 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

40:44.866 --> 40:46.900 align:left position:42.5% line:89% size:47.5%
Marty!

40:46.900 --> 40:49.033 align:left position:45% line:83% size:45%
I just need to see
Mum's okay.

40:49.033 --> 40:52.933 align:left position:32.5% line:83% size:57.5%
If you don't let me in,
I'll have to call the police.

40:52.933 --> 40:57.733 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
(breath trembling)

41:00.100 --> 41:04.133 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

41:04.133 --> 41:07.566 align:left position:10% line:89% size:80%
(breath trembling)

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♪ ♪

41:17.100 --> 41:20.966 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

41:29.866 --> 41:33.033 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
(Hughes talking softly)

41:33.033 --> 41:34.466 align:left position:62.5% line:89% size:27.5%
Okay, sure.

41:34.466 --> 41:35.700 align:left position:40% line:83% size:50%
(aloud):
Okay.

41:35.700 --> 41:38.466 align:left position:20% line:83% size:70%
Do you want to come through,
please, Mr. Collet?

41:40.100 --> 41:41.100 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45%
Wait.

41:41.100 --> 41:42.633 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Why is my partner
still here?

41:42.633 --> 41:44.466 align:left position:10% line:71% size:80%
Ah, ah, ah, ah...
No, I've already explained
to you,

41:44.466 --> 41:45.733 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
it's got nothing
to do with him.

41:45.733 --> 41:47.233 align:left position:32.5% line:89% size:57.5%
It was all me.

41:47.233 --> 41:48.500 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

41:48.500 --> 41:49.700 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
HUGHES:
This way.

41:49.700 --> 41:53.000 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

41:53.000 --> 41:54.000 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
BISHOP:
Okay, we've had a request

41:54.000 --> 41:56.533 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
from a Bishop Street
Station in London

41:56.533 --> 41:58.400 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
in connection with
another investigation.

41:58.400 --> 42:00.500 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
They're asking if they could
get a swab from you today.

42:00.500 --> 42:02.466 align:left position:10% line:83% size:80%
Are you okay with that?

42:02.466 --> 42:03.666 align:left position:45% line:89% size:45%
Yes.

42:03.666 --> 42:05.033 align:left position:17.5% line:83% size:72.5%
If you'd like to follow me,
then, please.

42:05.033 --> 42:08.666 align:left position:15% line:89% size:75%
(phone ringing in background)

42:08.666 --> 42:12.866 align:left position:30% line:89% size:60%
(birds chirping)

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(breathing softly)

42:34.833 --> 42:39.433 align:left position:47.5% line:89% size:42.5%
♪ ♪

42:56.066 --> 42:58.233 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
Yeah, it would just be
a general chat, really,

42:58.233 --> 43:00.200 align:left position:20% line:89% size:70%
um, just about the events

43:00.200 --> 43:02.266 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
leading up to her dad's
disappearance.

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Right.

43:03.633 --> 43:06.200 align:left position:30% line:5% size:60%
Which, as I say,
for a number of reasons,

43:06.200 --> 43:08.766 align:left position:27.5% line:5% size:62.5%
we would rather do
without her mum present.

43:08.766 --> 43:09.800 align:left position:42.5% line:5% size:47.5%
BUXTON:
Is she...

43:11.366 --> 43:14.366 align:left position:15% line:5% size:75%
I mean, has Mrs. Cooper been

43:14.366 --> 43:15.366 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50%
arrested?

43:15.366 --> 43:16.800 align:left position:47.5% line:5% size:42.5%
No.

43:16.800 --> 43:17.800 align:left position:40% line:5% size:50%
Not yet.

43:17.800 --> 43:19.133 align:left position:52.5% line:5% size:37.5%
(knock at door)

43:19.133 --> 43:20.133 align:left position:42.5% line:77% size:47.5%
BUXTON:
I'll need to take some advice
on this.

43:20.133 --> 43:21.233 align:left position:17.5% line:89% size:72.5%
Can I call you right back?

43:21.233 --> 43:22.566 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
Yep, okay.

43:22.566 --> 43:23.600 align:left position:22.5% line:83% size:67.5%
(stammers):
A.S.A.P., please.

43:23.600 --> 43:24.600 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
Bye.

43:24.600 --> 43:26.400 align:left position:35% line:89% size:55%
Sorry to disturb, guv.

43:26.400 --> 43:28.066 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
Juliet Cooper's downstairs.

43:28.066 --> 43:29.533 align:left position:57.5% line:83% size:32.5%
And she wants
to speak to you.

43:33.766 --> 43:36.500 align:left position:65% line:83% size:25%
Yesterday,
my daughter told me

43:36.500 --> 43:39.700 align:left position:30% line:83% size:60%
that about a week before
her dad went missing,

43:39.700 --> 43:41.533 align:left position:22.5% line:89% size:67.5%
she'd come home from school

43:41.533 --> 43:44.633 align:left position:42.5% line:83% size:47.5%
to find a young man
who'd worked for Gerry

43:44.633 --> 43:45.966 align:left position:60% line:89% size:30%
in our flat.

43:47.633 --> 43:49.733 align:left position:55% line:83% size:35%
He'd obviously
broken in somehow.

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I was still at work,
Gerry was out at meetings,

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meaning Taylor
was alone with him.

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And did she know him?

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Yeah, she chatted to him
when he worked downstairs,

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but she said he was

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very agitated
and very angry.

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About?
Her dad.

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Maybe me, a bit.

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And he told her that

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he wanted to hurt her dad,

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like he thought
Gerry had hurt him.

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And how old was Taylor?

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Eleven.

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My God, that must have
been terrifying for her.

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It was.

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And so, what happened?

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Well, she managed
to convince him

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that hurting her dad
would be a bad idea,

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and that it would
really upset her.

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He said he didn't want
to do that.

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So then she made him
a glass of squash.
(chuckles softly)

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They chatted a bit more,

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and after about 20 minutes,
he just left.

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And why...

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Why has she never told you
about this before?

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She hadn't wanted
to get him into trouble.

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She liked him.

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She felt sorry for him,
as do I.

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Hence my slowness
in telling you this.

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I know he went through a really
tough time in the pandemic.

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Does she remember his name?

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Yes.

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It was Marty.

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Marty Baines.

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(battering ram pounding door)

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(lock breaks)

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Here.

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(panting)

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OFFICER:
There's no one in
either of the bedrooms.

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Ambulance.

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OFFICER:
Medical assistance
required urgently, please.

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Dot? Dot, can you
hear me? Dot?

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(panting)

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♪ ♪

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(click)

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♪ ♪

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You okay, mate?

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SUNNY:
Gerry Cooper.

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What was he threatening you
with?

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The only chance you have
of saving anything

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is if you tell me
the truth.

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(computer beeps)

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FRAN: We have a match

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to DNA material found

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on the sweatshirt
of Gerry Cooper.

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♪ ♪

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