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Anne Briggs. 02:03.533 --> 02:04.966 align:start position:42.5% line:84.67% size:15% - Hey. 02:04.966 --> 02:08.000 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% - Anne of All Trades, we're here at the homestead 02:08.000 --> 02:09.866 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% and there's so much going on. 02:09.866 --> 02:11.466 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:42.5% Tell me about it. 02:11.466 --> 02:13.833 align:start position:20% line:10% size:55% - Well, we do a little bit of everything here. 02:13.833 --> 02:16.633 align:start position:20% line:10% size:60% I chose the name Anne of All Trades for a reason, 02:16.633 --> 02:20.266 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:60% because I didn't want to be pegged into one thing. 02:20.266 --> 02:24.533 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% We've got dairy cows, dairy goats, beef, 02:24.533 --> 02:25.533 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% we're raising pork, 02:25.533 --> 02:27.400 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% we're raising a garden, 02:27.400 --> 02:29.700 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% we've got a school we're building, 02:29.700 --> 02:33.033 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:60% my trade school to teach disappearing life skills. 02:33.033 --> 02:35.500 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% We've got all the things all the time, and- 02:35.500 --> 02:37.033 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:40% - [Charles] Wow. 02:37.033 --> 02:38.966 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% - We're just trying to keep our heads above water here. 02:38.966 --> 02:42.266 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% - (laughs) Well, I've heard you say 02:42.266 --> 02:45.733 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% you kinda tied yourself to the mast here. 02:45.733 --> 02:47.000 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:40% - [Anne] Mm-hmm. 02:47.000 --> 02:48.933 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% - Tell me what you mean by that and- 02:48.933 --> 02:49.766 align:start position:40% line:84.67% size:17.5% - Yeah. 02:49.766 --> 02:51.100 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% - How does it work? 02:51.100 --> 02:54.766 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% - I have taken a very meandering path in life, 02:54.766 --> 02:57.200 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% and I've, you know, faced a lot of struggles 02:57.200 --> 03:02.066 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% that I've tried to kind of reel it in a little bit. 03:03.233 --> 03:04.533 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% And basically what you're seeing now 03:04.533 --> 03:08.133 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% is the product of 35 years of trying to fix 03:08.133 --> 03:09.900 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% what always kind of felt a little bit broken. 03:09.900 --> 03:13.033 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% And in that, everything that I'm doing here 03:13.033 --> 03:14.433 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:42.5% serves a purpose, 03:14.433 --> 03:17.033 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% that maybe some other people might have dreamed 03:17.033 --> 03:19.433 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% of one day having a farm, 03:19.433 --> 03:21.900 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% or dreamed of one day becoming a woodworker. 03:21.900 --> 03:25.400 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% But for me it was more just, what could I do 03:25.400 --> 03:28.266 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% that will help me to show up to be the kind of person 03:28.266 --> 03:29.800 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:45% that I want to be? 03:29.800 --> 03:33.766 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% And suddenly I found myself on a farm, as a woodworker, 03:33.766 --> 03:35.633 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% doing some blacksmithing on occasion, 03:35.633 --> 03:37.166 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% and then tinkering on old cars 03:37.166 --> 03:39.200 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% and other things in my spare time, 03:39.200 --> 03:40.366 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% whatever that looks like. (laughs) 03:40.366 --> 03:42.533 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% - Well, that begs the question, 03:42.533 --> 03:44.300 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% what kind of person do you wanna be? 03:45.666 --> 03:49.633 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% - Oh, wow, this is deeper than I expected to go. 03:49.633 --> 03:52.966 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% I wanna be, I mean, I wanna be a good person. 03:52.966 --> 03:56.500 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% I wanna be a upstanding member of my community. 03:56.500 --> 03:58.500 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% I wanna be the kind of person people can call 03:58.500 --> 03:59.766 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% when they get stuck. 03:59.766 --> 04:01.133 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% I wanna be the kind of person 04:01.133 --> 04:04.166 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% who shows up for the people that I care about. 04:04.166 --> 04:07.066 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:47.5% I want to work hard and be a good steward 04:07.066 --> 04:10.266 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% of the time and the resources that I've been given. 04:10.266 --> 04:14.133 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% And when I die, I wanna say, "Yep, I did it all." 04:14.133 --> 04:16.833 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% - Well, you're well on the path to that 04:16.833 --> 04:19.300 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% because there's so many people 04:19.300 --> 04:22.133 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% that like to live vicariously 04:22.133 --> 04:25.233 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% through watching you turn your compost, 04:25.233 --> 04:29.200 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% and watching you assign the pigs to a task 04:29.200 --> 04:30.933 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% that they can do for you. 04:30.933 --> 04:35.900 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:45% And so this really fits in with the growth 04:37.000 --> 04:38.500 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% and development that you had planned 04:38.500 --> 04:40.433 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% for Anne of All Trades. 04:40.433 --> 04:43.600 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% - I think a decade ago when all this kind of started, 04:43.600 --> 04:45.300 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% I was just bouncing 04:45.300 --> 04:48.033 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% to whatever next thing grabbed my attention. 04:48.033 --> 04:50.633 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% And back then someone told me, 04:50.633 --> 04:53.300 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% I was never gonna be good at anything. 04:53.300 --> 04:57.000 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% And at the moment, that really, really hurt, 04:57.000 --> 05:00.600 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% but I think mostly because I realized it was true. 05:00.600 --> 05:02.333 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% And so in that moment, 05:02.333 --> 05:04.833 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% I decided I was gonna stop bouncing, 05:04.833 --> 05:09.166 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% and I had to figure out a way to make that actually work 05:09.166 --> 05:10.633 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% for who I really was. 05:10.633 --> 05:14.400 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% And in that I decided for the rest of my life, 05:14.400 --> 05:18.033 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% I am going to pursue becoming a truly excellent woodworker. 05:19.400 --> 05:23.733 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% And to get to that, I need some external stimuli. 05:23.733 --> 05:25.966 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% And so I milk a cow every day, 05:25.966 --> 05:28.433 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% not because I love drinking milk, 05:28.433 --> 05:30.033 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% which it turns out, 05:30.033 --> 05:31.966 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:37.5% now that I have a milk cow, I do, 05:31.966 --> 05:34.800 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% but really because I need my butt to be in a seat 05:34.800 --> 05:36.866 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% by a certain time of the morning, 05:36.866 --> 05:40.666 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% and I know that an alarm clock didn't do that, 05:40.666 --> 05:42.866 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% a planner didn't do that. 05:42.866 --> 05:45.800 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:47.5% But knowing that my cow will get mastitis 05:45.800 --> 05:47.366 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% if I am an hour late, 05:47.366 --> 05:49.566 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% and knowing that she's out there waiting on me, 05:49.566 --> 05:51.066 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% and knowing that I love her 05:51.066 --> 05:52.766 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% and I don't wanna let her down, 05:52.766 --> 05:54.866 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% I'm out there every morning, 05:54.866 --> 05:56.966 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% and getting my butt in that seat 05:56.966 --> 06:00.400 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% helps me to get my butt in my seat for my job, 06:00.400 --> 06:02.300 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% by the time that I need to do that every day too. 06:02.300 --> 06:03.566 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% And so I kind of have 06:03.566 --> 06:05.900 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% all of these external stimuli in my life 06:05.900 --> 06:08.600 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:45% that help me to do the next right thing. 06:08.600 --> 06:10.133 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:37.5% - Well, you are tied to the mast, 06:10.133 --> 06:13.866 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% just like being tied to the biological 06:13.866 --> 06:16.500 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% and organic clock of the homestead. 06:16.500 --> 06:19.600 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% - Yeah, I mean, I think for, you and I 06:19.600 --> 06:20.966 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% are really similar people. 06:20.966 --> 06:23.400 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% I think we've had really similar struggles in life, 06:23.400 --> 06:28.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% and there's a lot of stuff going around now that's like, oh, 06:28.066 --> 06:29.866 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% you know, all of a sudden people have 06:29.866 --> 06:33.433 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% all of these nameable ailments and things. 06:33.433 --> 06:36.100 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% And the reality is, I think, a hundred years ago, 06:36.100 --> 06:38.566 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% these were all things that everyone had to do. 06:38.566 --> 06:40.133 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% There was no real choice in it. 06:40.133 --> 06:41.833 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% It was like, you know, to survive, 06:41.833 --> 06:42.933 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% we need to do these things. 06:42.933 --> 06:44.966 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% And a lot of those things involved 06:44.966 --> 06:47.933 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% moving our bodies very intentionally. 06:47.933 --> 06:51.500 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% We had to actually exercise to get the things 06:51.500 --> 06:54.566 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% that we need out of the ground, 06:54.566 --> 06:56.900 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:65% out of the animals that we work with or whatever else. 06:56.900 --> 06:58.766 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% We had to chop firewood so that we had, 06:58.766 --> 07:00.133 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% we stayed warm in the wintertime. 07:00.133 --> 07:03.700 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% All those things kind of were just a given in life. 07:03.700 --> 07:05.966 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% And now they aren't, 07:05.966 --> 07:07.700 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% because we have modern conveniences 07:07.700 --> 07:09.166 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% and all these other things. 07:09.166 --> 07:11.733 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% And I will be the first to admit I love a hot shower. 07:11.733 --> 07:13.733 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% I love being able to call my friends 07:13.733 --> 07:18.733 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% in Taiwan and China, but I do really, 07:20.066 --> 07:21.733 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:60% but I have realized that for my own mental health, 07:21.733 --> 07:24.133 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% for my own wellbeing, 07:24.133 --> 07:26.400 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% the life that I live may not be for everyone, 07:26.400 --> 07:27.666 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% but it is the best life for me, 07:27.666 --> 07:30.633 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% because it forces me to be fully engaged 07:30.633 --> 07:32.633 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% and fully present in my life. 07:32.633 --> 07:37.133 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% - Well, how did that meandering path start? 07:37.133 --> 07:40.233 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% Where did it start? 07:40.233 --> 07:44.133 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% - It started about 12 years ago when, you know, 07:44.133 --> 07:45.666 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% my husband and I had just gotten married. 07:45.666 --> 07:47.800 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% We were broke as a joke. 07:47.800 --> 07:50.466 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% We were getting most of our food from the food bank. 07:50.466 --> 07:52.833 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:37.5% And I was like, 07:52.833 --> 07:55.766 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% "You know, I think I could plant a garden in our backyard." 07:55.766 --> 07:59.833 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% And I wanted, I had a garage for the first time. 07:59.833 --> 08:01.100 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% My parents are missionaries, 08:01.100 --> 08:05.766 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% so we didn't ever have, you know, a stable unit 08:05.766 --> 08:08.000 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% where I could have amassed 08:08.000 --> 08:10.100 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% a woodworking tool collection or anything else. 08:10.100 --> 08:14.066 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:65% So just being there in the city with a little backyard 08:14.066 --> 08:16.733 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% and being like, "Well, I could put some tools 08:16.733 --> 08:20.000 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% in this garage if I'm able to buy some. 08:20.000 --> 08:22.433 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:62.5% I could put some seeds in the ground in the backyard." 08:22.433 --> 08:24.433 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% And then one thing led to another, 08:24.433 --> 08:26.466 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% and a lot of the things that I do now 08:26.466 --> 08:29.366 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% are known as gateway drugs into homesteading. 08:29.366 --> 08:31.500 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% You get a garden and then you get chickens, 08:31.500 --> 08:34.333 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% and then someone tells you it's a good idea to get goats. 08:34.333 --> 08:36.666 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% And then pretty soon you've gotta get a cow. 08:36.666 --> 08:38.600 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% And well, now here we are. 08:38.600 --> 08:40.066 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% - So everything's a next step. 08:40.066 --> 08:40.966 align:start position:40% line:84.67% size:17.5% - Yeah. 08:40.966 --> 08:42.233 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% - You take the first step, 08:42.233 --> 08:44.833 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% but then after that, it's just developmental. 08:44.833 --> 08:47.800 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% Now you're an avid reader, researcher. 08:47.800 --> 08:49.200 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% - Oh yeah, now I am. 08:49.200 --> 08:52.233 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% I mean, when I was a kid, I'm severely dyslexic, 08:52.233 --> 08:54.333 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% so I didn't learn how to really read 08:54.333 --> 08:57.066 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% and comprehend things until I was 22 years old. 08:57.066 --> 09:00.200 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:62.5% Incidentally, that's when we had just gotten married 09:00.200 --> 09:01.600 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% and had this house, 09:01.600 --> 09:03.533 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% and the house was across the street from the library. 09:03.533 --> 09:06.133 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% And so I started going to the library. 09:06.133 --> 09:08.400 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% And as I was wanting to plant that first seed, 09:08.400 --> 09:11.066 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% this is before YouTube, this is before all that stuff. 09:11.066 --> 09:13.266 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% So I was like, "Oh, I don't know how to do that. 09:13.266 --> 09:15.233 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% I'll find a book that shows me how." 09:15.233 --> 09:17.500 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% And I became a voracious reader. 09:17.500 --> 09:20.600 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% That first year, I read 300 books 09:20.600 --> 09:21.966 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% on homesteading and woodworking, 09:21.966 --> 09:24.800 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% and within two years, I had checked out and read 09:24.800 --> 09:27.700 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% every single book that the Seattle Metro System had 09:27.700 --> 09:30.600 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% on basically any of this stuff, 09:30.600 --> 09:32.500 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% and consumed as much of it as I could, 09:32.500 --> 09:35.000 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% because I was hooked. 09:35.000 --> 09:38.000 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% - Well, you've lived many places, 09:38.000 --> 09:41.100 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% being the part of a missionary family. 09:41.100 --> 09:42.033 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:40% - [Anne] Mm-hmm. 09:42.033 --> 09:43.600 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% - [Charles] Tell us about that. 09:43.600 --> 09:47.366 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% - Yeah, I went, we spent a lot of my young life in Ukraine, 09:47.366 --> 09:49.466 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% Czech Republic, Austria. 09:49.466 --> 09:52.133 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% I spent a lot of my young life in Asia. 09:52.133 --> 09:53.166 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% I speak fluent Chinese. 09:53.166 --> 09:56.200 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% That's one of the, you know, 09:56.200 --> 09:58.133 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% what do you not know about me kinda things. 09:58.133 --> 10:01.933 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:62.5% But all of that wandering kind of did leave me with a, 10:01.933 --> 10:06.833 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% "Someday, I wanna have one place that's there forever." 10:06.833 --> 10:10.966 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% And you know, when you've got 30 acres and cows, 10:10.966 --> 10:12.233 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% you're kinda stuck there. 10:12.233 --> 10:14.066 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% And I don't think of it as being stuck. 10:14.066 --> 10:17.033 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% I think of it as, "Wow, I have a home for the first time." 10:17.033 --> 10:19.200 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% - You have a big laboratory. (laughs) 10:19.200 --> 10:20.533 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% - Oh, yeah, oh yeah. 10:20.533 --> 10:23.066 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% - And you get to mix the chemicals every day. 10:23.066 --> 10:24.333 align:start position:40% line:84.67% size:17.5% - Yeah. 10:24.333 --> 10:26.600 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% - Yeah, well, what kind of woodworking projects 10:26.600 --> 10:29.933 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% have you jumped into? 10:29.933 --> 10:33.266 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% - Oh, I've done pretty much all of 'em at this point. 10:33.266 --> 10:37.100 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% But I started with, literally, I needed a bed. 10:37.100 --> 10:39.766 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% We didn't have the money to buy one, 10:39.766 --> 10:41.100 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:37.5% and I was like, 10:41.100 --> 10:42.700 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% "Well, surely it's not that hard to build one." 10:42.700 --> 10:46.133 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% I grew up with, my grandfather was a great example in this. 10:46.133 --> 10:48.966 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% He was Mr. Use What You've Got to Get Where You Need to Go, 10:48.966 --> 10:50.900 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% and one of the things that I had 10:50.900 --> 10:52.633 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% as we were traveling around the world, 10:52.633 --> 10:54.166 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% one things I had in the back of my, 10:54.166 --> 10:56.900 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:65% or one of the things I had in the back of my head was, 10:56.900 --> 10:58.866 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% "Someday I wanna have a place 10:58.866 --> 11:00.000 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% just like my grandpa's shop." 11:00.000 --> 11:01.266 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% He had a three-bay garage, 11:01.266 --> 11:03.866 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% and in one bay was the woodworking stuff, 11:03.866 --> 11:06.500 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% and in the middle bay was the metalworking stuff, 11:06.500 --> 11:09.266 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% and the other bay was the car working stuff, 11:09.266 --> 11:10.866 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% or the mechanical stuff. 11:10.866 --> 11:13.366 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% And I remember as a kid thinking, 11:13.366 --> 11:17.033 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:70% "Man, we can go in there and we can make anything we want. 11:17.033 --> 11:19.166 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:37.5% We can make any dream come true." 11:19.166 --> 11:21.033 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% And though my grandfather passed 11:21.033 --> 11:23.800 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% before he was able to share much of that knowledge with me, 11:23.800 --> 11:25.900 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% I carried that with me for the rest of my life, 11:25.900 --> 11:28.900 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% basically being like, "Someday I wanna have the space 11:28.900 --> 11:31.000 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% where I can make all the things that I need 11:31.000 --> 11:32.533 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% to make my life work." 11:32.533 --> 11:37.500 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:77.5% And so I started, my first wood shop was in my laundry room. 11:38.033 --> 11:39.233 align:start position:42.5% line:84.67% size:15% - Wow. 11:39.233 --> 11:40.466 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% - And that's why I actually started, 11:40.466 --> 11:42.400 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% my focus was hand tool woodworking, 11:42.400 --> 11:44.633 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% because I didn't have space for a table saw 11:44.633 --> 11:46.300 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% or anything else for that matter. 11:46.300 --> 11:48.166 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% In fact, when I was building my first bookshelf, 11:48.166 --> 11:50.900 align:start position:27.5% line:74% size:47.5% I had to climb over the workbench to get to the other side, 11:50.900 --> 11:53.066 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% because if the bookshelf was there, 11:53.066 --> 11:54.066 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% I didn't have. (donkey brays) 11:54.066 --> 11:55.866 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% Oh, my donkey's saying hello. 11:55.866 --> 11:57.000 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:40% (Charles laughs) 11:57.000 --> 11:58.300 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% He's conducting the little donkey- 11:58.300 --> 11:59.900 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% - There you go, the sounds of the farm. 11:59.900 --> 12:00.933 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% - Yeah, well, here we are. 12:00.933 --> 12:02.366 align:start position:42.5% line:79.33% size:17.5% - Yeah. - It's everything, 12:02.366 --> 12:03.200 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% all the time, all at once. 12:03.200 --> 12:04.600 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:40% (Charles laughs) 12:04.600 --> 12:08.266 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% But that really led me to like, 12:08.266 --> 12:10.033 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% constantly wanting to challenge myself. 12:10.033 --> 12:13.566 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:55% And again, I wanted to spend the rest of my life 12:13.566 --> 12:16.833 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% pursuing one specific path, 12:16.833 --> 12:18.300 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% and in that I was like, 12:18.300 --> 12:20.200 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:55% "Okay, what's the next hardest project I could try," 12:20.200 --> 12:21.566 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% which ultimately led me 12:21.566 --> 12:23.366 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% to the shop of Greg Pennington, 12:23.366 --> 12:25.733 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% who I think you also did an interview with him. 12:25.733 --> 12:27.566 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% And he taught me how to build Windsor chairs. 12:27.566 --> 12:28.533 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% And I was like, "You know what? 12:28.533 --> 12:30.333 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% This is kind of the culmination 12:30.333 --> 12:32.433 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:37.5% of everything a woodworker would do." 12:32.433 --> 12:36.133 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% And he was such a good teacher, 12:36.133 --> 12:39.066 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:47.5% that I was like, "I think I wanna do this." 12:39.066 --> 12:42.200 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:47.5% So now I'm building a woodworking school, 12:42.200 --> 12:43.833 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% well, the School of All Trades. 12:43.833 --> 12:45.633 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% We won't limit ourselves here. 12:45.633 --> 12:47.733 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% But yeah, that I think will be 12:47.733 --> 12:49.766 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% the ultimate culmination of everything is, 12:49.766 --> 12:53.333 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% one school where I can teach all the things 12:53.333 --> 12:55.400 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% that so many people like Greg have been so generous 12:55.400 --> 12:57.033 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:27.5% to teach me throughout the years. 12:57.033 --> 13:01.533 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% - So you've created a very shareable laboratory. 13:01.533 --> 13:03.566 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% - Oh yeah, I think one thing 13:03.566 --> 13:07.366 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% that tends to maybe even get in the way 13:07.366 --> 13:09.533 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% of some woodworkers is that it tends to be 13:09.533 --> 13:11.666 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% a very lonely pursuit. 13:11.666 --> 13:12.966 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% And I'm an introvert, 13:12.966 --> 13:14.733 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% just like a lot of other woodworkers are. 13:14.733 --> 13:18.700 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% But there is something very inspiring 13:18.700 --> 13:21.533 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% about announcing some of the things that you're doing 13:21.533 --> 13:23.300 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% or sharing some of the things you're doing. 13:23.300 --> 13:26.100 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% And so I didn't want woodworking 13:26.100 --> 13:27.900 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% to become a solo pursuit. 13:27.900 --> 13:29.600 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% Community is very important to me. 13:29.600 --> 13:31.466 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:42.5% And it turns out, 13:31.466 --> 13:34.033 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% having struggled with learning my whole life, 13:34.033 --> 13:35.800 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% I'm a really good teacher. 13:35.800 --> 13:39.166 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% And so I wanted to then take the things that I'd learned 13:39.166 --> 13:40.433 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% and teach them to other people, 13:40.433 --> 13:43.166 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% and make this place open to other people as well, 13:43.166 --> 13:45.266 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% so that this isn't a solitary pursuit. 13:45.266 --> 13:47.066 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% It's not a selfish endeavor. 13:47.066 --> 13:49.733 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% It's something that hopefully other people like me 13:49.733 --> 13:51.666 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% will come here and see 13:51.666 --> 13:53.366 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% how I've made things work for myself, 13:53.366 --> 13:56.566 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% and then leave feeling better equipped 13:56.566 --> 13:58.833 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% to do the things that they wanna do too. 13:58.833 --> 14:01.966 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% - Well, you've built lots of Windsor chairs- 14:01.966 --> 14:03.900 align:start position:42.5% line:79.33% size:17.5% - Yeah. - In different styles. 14:05.100 --> 14:07.333 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% You've also built a mandolin, 'cause- 14:07.333 --> 14:08.466 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% - [Anne] Yeah. 14:08.466 --> 14:09.433 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% - [Charles] It's hanging over there, 14:09.433 --> 14:10.666 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% and I've seen it. - Yeah. 14:10.666 --> 14:12.233 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% - I was attracted to it when I came in. 14:12.233 --> 14:14.100 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% What are some other projects 14:14.100 --> 14:15.900 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% that you've been involved in? 14:15.900 --> 14:20.866 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% - Well, in 2020 I needed to raise a lot of money 14:22.233 --> 14:24.300 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% that had disappeared from prior work commitments 14:24.300 --> 14:27.100 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% for building the School of All Trades out there. 14:27.100 --> 14:30.033 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% And so I started doing a whole lot of spoon carving 14:30.033 --> 14:32.966 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% because a lot of people were stuck at home. 14:32.966 --> 14:36.633 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:60% A lot of people suddenly became interested in craft, 14:36.633 --> 14:40.600 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% and spoon carving seemed like a very good tool, 14:40.600 --> 14:43.000 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% or a very good vehicle 14:43.000 --> 14:46.000 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% to help people start learning how to do craft. 14:46.000 --> 14:47.266 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% And the fun thing about spoon carving 14:47.266 --> 14:50.433 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% is you only need to have a handful of tools, and, 14:50.433 --> 14:52.233 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% you'll actually learn everything 14:52.233 --> 14:55.233 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:65% that I have to unteach all of the power tool woodworkers 14:55.233 --> 14:57.066 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% that come to my classes, 14:57.066 --> 14:59.000 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% with regard to grain direction 14:59.000 --> 15:00.533 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% and wood movement and things like that. 15:00.533 --> 15:04.000 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% So you've got a really compact way to learn 15:04.000 --> 15:06.333 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:45% anything you wanna know about woodworking. 15:06.333 --> 15:07.666 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% But then also, 15:07.666 --> 15:09.833 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% people who aren't necessarily even attracted 15:09.833 --> 15:11.200 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% to the craft of woodworking 15:11.200 --> 15:13.300 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:45% would also be like interested in spoon carving 15:13.300 --> 15:14.500 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% because it's just a fun thing 15:14.500 --> 15:16.900 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% to think about whittling by the bonfire 15:16.900 --> 15:18.700 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% or making a kitchen implement 15:18.700 --> 15:20.366 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:47.5% for those cooks who are really interested 15:20.366 --> 15:23.333 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% in having handcrafted items and things like that. 15:23.333 --> 15:26.533 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% - Are you gonna show us how to carve a spoon 15:26.533 --> 15:28.133 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% or a kitchen utensil? 15:28.133 --> 15:29.033 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:45% - I would love to. 15:29.033 --> 15:30.533 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% - All right, can't wait. 15:30.533 --> 15:31.333 align:start position:37.5% line:84.67% size:20% - Great. 15:32.900 --> 15:36.466 align:start position:17.5% line:10% size:65% (whimsical old-time music) 15:40.500 --> 15:44.033 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% (whimsical old-time music) 15:49.566 --> 15:51.766 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% (whimsical old-time music ends) 15:51.766 --> 15:55.066 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% (folksy mandolin music) 15:59.800 --> 16:03.033 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% (folksy mandolin music) 16:15.300 --> 16:17.333 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:47.5% - Why Anne, you are gonna make a spoon 16:17.333 --> 16:20.066 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:42.5% out of what seems to be firewood. 16:20.066 --> 16:22.200 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% - That's basically exactly what it is. 16:22.200 --> 16:23.633 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% This is a cherry tree 16:23.633 --> 16:26.166 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% that just blew down in the last tornado here. 16:26.166 --> 16:27.433 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% We've got some walnut 16:27.433 --> 16:29.466 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% that we're in the midst of carving as well, 16:29.466 --> 16:31.400 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% and you know, just like, 16:31.400 --> 16:34.900 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% kind of just like our ancestors did, 16:34.900 --> 16:36.833 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% we wanna use whatever we've got 16:36.833 --> 16:38.233 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:37.5% to get where we wanna go in life. 16:38.233 --> 16:40.433 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% And these will be kitchen spoons 16:40.433 --> 16:41.700 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% that we can have in a bucket 16:41.700 --> 16:43.266 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% to give to our neighbors, 16:43.266 --> 16:45.766 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% to welcome new people to the neighborhood, 16:45.766 --> 16:49.600 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% to thank someone for helping me catch my cow, 16:49.600 --> 16:50.600 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:42.5% or whatever else. 16:50.600 --> 16:51.866 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:27.5% And I mean, (Charles laughs) 16:51.866 --> 16:53.666 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% I think everyone remembers 16:53.666 --> 16:55.133 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% their grandma's kitchen spoon 16:55.133 --> 16:56.866 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% for one reason or another. 16:56.866 --> 16:58.866 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% - Yeah, I think the back of my hand 16:58.866 --> 17:00.233 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% kind of remembers it. 17:00.233 --> 17:01.466 align:start position:37.5% line:84.67% size:25% - Oh yeah. 17:01.466 --> 17:02.900 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% - Yeah, "Charles, don't go there," so- 17:02.900 --> 17:05.500 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% - But this is, I mean, this is one 17:05.500 --> 17:08.666 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% of my favorite things to like, this is very portable. 17:08.666 --> 17:11.200 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% I can take this kind of anywhere on the farm, 17:11.200 --> 17:13.533 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:32.5% (mallet taps) and, you know, 17:13.533 --> 17:16.000 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% turn as I'm watching the sunset 17:16.000 --> 17:17.933 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% or as I'm waiting for my cow to have a baby 17:17.933 --> 17:19.133 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:42.5% or whatever else. 17:19.133 --> 17:21.133 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% I can actually do something useful, 17:21.133 --> 17:24.133 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% with both my time and my anxious energy 17:24.133 --> 17:25.933 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% that I seem to have quite a lot of. 17:25.933 --> 17:28.966 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% - There you go, and looks like it has 17:30.033 --> 17:31.800 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% a lot of versatility, and, 17:32.966 --> 17:35.033 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% it has some safety features built in. 17:35.033 --> 17:37.966 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% - Oh yeah, so any time, I mean, we're both musicians. 17:37.966 --> 17:40.133 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% Any time you're using an ax this close to your hands, 17:40.133 --> 17:43.166 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% you want to know that you are really safe. 17:43.166 --> 17:45.366 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:55% And I really like this thing for a lot of reasons. 17:45.366 --> 17:46.600 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% I used to work on a stump 17:46.600 --> 17:48.833 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% that I had to bend over and use, 17:48.833 --> 17:50.466 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:32.5% and that, you know, hurt my back. 17:50.466 --> 17:52.900 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% This allows me to stand and be really close 17:52.900 --> 17:56.633 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% and be right above my work. 17:56.633 --> 17:59.500 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% But also, you know, there's a lot of things that are, 17:59.500 --> 18:02.133 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:45% I'm working on the opposite side of the stump. 18:02.133 --> 18:03.966 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% This is gonna catch the ax if it slips. 18:03.966 --> 18:05.500 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% - [Charles] Mm-hmm. 18:05.500 --> 18:08.000 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:67.5% - And then once we get into carving this little bit in here, 18:08.000 --> 18:10.566 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% we can then come around from this side, 18:10.566 --> 18:14.133 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% and swap our axes to the correct ax for that job. 18:14.133 --> 18:17.300 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% And we'll be able to come in and have two balance points. 18:17.300 --> 18:19.300 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% So we'll be able to, you know, 18:19.300 --> 18:21.533 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% not have to just be swinging our ax freely 18:21.533 --> 18:23.233 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% and hope that we don't flick- 18:23.233 --> 18:24.433 align:start position:42.5% line:79.33% size:15% - Wow. - Flick the ax 18:24.433 --> 18:25.700 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% in the wood all in different places. 18:25.700 --> 18:27.533 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% And I can even just show you that right now. 18:27.533 --> 18:29.333 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% - [Charles] All right. 18:29.333 --> 18:33.200 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% - [Anne] So this is, sometimes you have to scooch it around, 18:33.200 --> 18:34.566 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% to be able to get to the next stop, 18:34.566 --> 18:36.000 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% the next spot. 18:36.000 --> 18:38.133 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% But, so here as I'm carving the back of the spoon, 18:38.133 --> 18:39.433 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% I'll come in here, (ax hammers) 18:39.433 --> 18:41.500 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% and you can see I've got two points of contact. 18:41.500 --> 18:43.133 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% And then also there's always something 18:43.133 --> 18:46.133 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:45% to catch the ax as the chips are flying. 18:46.133 --> 18:48.500 align:start position:35% line:84.67% size:30% (ax hammers) 18:51.533 --> 18:52.400 align:start position:40% line:84.67% size:17.5% Faster. 18:52.400 --> 18:56.266 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% (ax hammers quickly) 18:56.266 --> 18:57.866 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:42.5% And so from here, 18:57.866 --> 19:00.233 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:47.5% we're gonna do this Martha Stewart-style. 19:00.233 --> 19:03.133 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% But from here, we'll go to the next stage, which is, 19:03.133 --> 19:06.600 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% we have basically a roughed-out spoon like that. 19:06.600 --> 19:08.266 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% - Right, so the cooking show. 19:08.266 --> 19:09.633 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:25% - Exactly. - Yeah, there we go. 19:09.633 --> 19:12.900 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:60% - Yeah, we start drawing out the shape and we get, 19:14.166 --> 19:17.766 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% we get the interior shape kind of defined. 19:17.766 --> 19:19.100 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% Then we come here and we've got, 19:19.100 --> 19:21.066 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% we start carving out the middle bits. 19:21.066 --> 19:23.933 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% - How do you shape the bowl of the spoon? 19:23.933 --> 19:26.466 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% - [Anne] That is an excellent question. 19:26.466 --> 19:29.700 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% - Yeah, I should see if I could make a spoon out of this. 19:29.700 --> 19:31.933 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% And when my grandkids come over, 19:31.933 --> 19:33.966 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:32.5% - Oh, listen. - I could practice on 'em. 19:33.966 --> 19:35.000 align:start position:42.5% line:79.33% size:12.5% Yeah. - You should. 19:35.000 --> 19:36.466 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% You absolutely should. 19:36.466 --> 19:37.900 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:40% (Charles laughs) 19:37.900 --> 19:40.700 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:47.5% So depending on how confident you are with an ax, 19:40.700 --> 19:43.600 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% you can actually also use what's called an adze, 19:43.600 --> 19:45.566 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% to start your spoon. 19:45.566 --> 19:47.833 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% You can use this tool to come in 19:47.833 --> 19:50.833 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% and you carve out the center a little bit. 19:50.833 --> 19:52.466 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:27.5% (adze taps) And that's, again, 19:52.466 --> 19:53.566 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% if you're pretty confident, 19:53.566 --> 19:54.866 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% but you have to be pretty careful, 19:54.866 --> 19:56.166 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% because one thing that you learn 19:56.166 --> 19:57.900 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% really quickly in spoon carving 19:57.900 --> 20:00.566 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% is what's gonna happen to the grain, 20:00.566 --> 20:02.733 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% that we have the opportunity to come at things 20:02.733 --> 20:04.900 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% from a lot of different angles. 20:04.900 --> 20:08.300 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% And again, if you can use a lot more carefulness 20:08.300 --> 20:10.533 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:27.5% (adze taps) as you're doing this part, 20:10.533 --> 20:13.133 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% you can get away with getting rid of a lot of that there. 20:13.133 --> 20:17.300 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% After we've got this chunked out to about this stage, 20:17.300 --> 20:19.100 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% most people will come in 20:19.100 --> 20:21.900 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% and, you know, just kind of refine their design 20:21.900 --> 20:23.200 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:47.5% a little bit, which is what I'm gonna do. 20:23.200 --> 20:27.233 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% I want this to look a little bit like an egg. 20:27.233 --> 20:28.033 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:37.5% We'll get that. 20:29.533 --> 20:33.100 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% And then we're gonna start using a tool called a hook knife. 20:33.100 --> 20:35.166 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% A hook knife is exactly what it sounds like. 20:35.166 --> 20:37.000 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% It's a knife that's shaped like a hook. 20:37.000 --> 20:40.366 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% And we have lots of different ways 20:40.366 --> 20:41.433 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% that we can use this knife, 20:41.433 --> 20:43.533 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% but I will tell you the one way 20:43.533 --> 20:46.400 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% every single person cuts themselves with this knife 20:46.400 --> 20:48.433 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% is because if you use it the way 20:48.433 --> 20:52.000 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% you would intuitively use it, you go right up here 20:52.000 --> 20:53.566 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% and you go right into the flesh of your thumb. 20:53.566 --> 20:58.500 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% So there is a little bit of anti logic 20:59.900 --> 21:01.800 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% that goes into using this tool in a safe manner. 21:01.800 --> 21:03.300 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% But you might actually notice 21:03.300 --> 21:05.766 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% that I'm moving the piece of wood along with the knife. 21:05.766 --> 21:09.533 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:60% And so I've got my thumb safely tucked back behind here, 21:09.533 --> 21:12.433 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:55% and I'm actually gonna start removing the material 21:12.433 --> 21:14.033 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% from the inside of the spoon 21:14.033 --> 21:15.433 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% in kind of a circular pattern. 21:15.433 --> 21:18.366 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% So I almost like to draw that out. 21:19.566 --> 21:21.933 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% I think about the spoon in four sections. 21:23.366 --> 21:26.966 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% So we've got one, two, three, four. 21:26.966 --> 21:28.433 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% And each one of those sections, 21:28.433 --> 21:31.933 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% as you start carving downwards, you're going to, 21:31.933 --> 21:33.733 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% the grain of the wood is gonna change direction. 21:33.733 --> 21:37.633 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% So we're gonna actually wanna move our knife like this. 21:38.966 --> 21:40.833 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:47.5% And like when we're carving in that quadrant, 21:40.833 --> 21:42.533 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% we're gonna move our knife that way. 21:42.533 --> 21:43.700 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% When we're in this quadrant, 21:43.700 --> 21:46.033 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% we're gonna move our knife that way, 21:46.033 --> 21:48.633 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% and then that way, and then that way. 21:48.633 --> 21:51.166 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% And I'll just show you what that looks like really quick. 21:53.100 --> 21:57.533 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% So here, we've got this and we've got our thumb 21:57.533 --> 22:02.400 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% safely anchored back behind the cutting edge there. 22:03.766 --> 22:08.066 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% We'll come in and we'll take little chunks like this, 22:09.266 --> 22:11.233 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% and then, and then we'll come down here 22:11.233 --> 22:14.000 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% and we'll use leverage to our advantage here as well. 22:14.000 --> 22:19.000 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% We'll go, I'm hinging on my own fingers there, and, 22:22.166 --> 22:23.666 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% one thing, when you're holding a knife, 22:23.666 --> 22:26.066 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% you always wanna have it on some sort of hinge point. 22:26.066 --> 22:29.700 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% So this hand is never freely swinging the blade, 22:29.700 --> 22:31.133 align:start position:32.5% line:84.67% size:35% any one place. 22:31.133 --> 22:35.100 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% So when it's here, it's hinging on the piece of wood. 22:35.100 --> 22:37.466 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% When it's here, it's hinging here. 22:38.833 --> 22:42.100 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% And that keeps this thing from ever wandering away 22:42.100 --> 22:43.900 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% and doing anything unexpected. 22:43.900 --> 22:47.666 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% But basically we whittle that out of the center bit there, 22:47.666 --> 22:50.700 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% and we can come back and we'll take the center. 22:50.700 --> 22:52.333 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% This piece of wood got a little dry 22:52.333 --> 22:54.633 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% in between our carving times here. 22:54.633 --> 22:58.000 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% I actually am just recovering from an injury, 22:58.000 --> 23:00.200 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:47.5% a knife injury, but hilariously not from carving, 23:00.200 --> 23:01.766 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% because we know how to carve safely. 23:01.766 --> 23:03.633 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% It was a kitchen knife injury. 23:04.866 --> 23:07.433 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:47.5% And well, you know, sometimes those happen. 23:07.433 --> 23:08.966 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% But there's also another tool 23:08.966 --> 23:10.733 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% that I actually really like to use at this point. 23:10.733 --> 23:13.866 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% And it's called, now this one is a real pain to sharpen. 23:13.866 --> 23:16.000 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% So I never let anyone borrow that one. 23:16.000 --> 23:18.633 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% But I like this one because I teach a lot of classes. 23:18.633 --> 23:21.566 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% So I have to show people how to do a lot of these things, 23:21.566 --> 23:23.666 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% both left and right-handed. 23:23.666 --> 23:25.200 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% And I kept having a problem 23:25.200 --> 23:26.733 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% with grabbing the left-handed knife 23:26.733 --> 23:28.300 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% and trying to use it with my right hand, 23:28.300 --> 23:30.566 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% and then realizing the cutting edge was on the other side. 23:30.566 --> 23:32.300 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% So this saves me a lot of that stuff. 23:32.300 --> 23:37.266 align:start position:30% line:74% size:42.5% It also allows me the opportunity to use my other hand, 23:38.500 --> 23:40.400 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% even in situations where I normally wouldn't, 23:40.400 --> 23:43.733 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% move on to the hook or the crook knife. 23:45.600 --> 23:47.000 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% - By hook or by crook. 23:47.000 --> 23:49.533 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% - That's right, and then same exact, 23:49.533 --> 23:51.000 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% there's that potato peeler- 23:51.000 --> 23:52.400 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:25% - Oh yeah. - Cut again. 23:52.400 --> 23:55.533 align:start position:42.5% line:79.33% size:17.5% - Yeah. - And we'll, we can use this 23:55.533 --> 23:56.933 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% the exact same way. 23:56.933 --> 23:59.666 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% This is actually the exact same knife as this. 24:00.666 --> 24:02.733 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% It's just been turned on a hook. 24:02.733 --> 24:05.066 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% And so we can come in here now, 24:05.066 --> 24:10.033 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% and do that exact same action there, 24:11.333 --> 24:13.733 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% as we ride that bevel on the inside. 24:13.733 --> 24:16.633 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% And riding that bevel is exactly what we need to do 24:16.633 --> 24:20.066 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% to be able to have a nice smooth surface on the inside too. 24:20.066 --> 24:21.566 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% 'Cause I think a lot of people, 24:21.566 --> 24:22.533 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:65% when they're first getting started with spoon carving, 24:22.533 --> 24:23.866 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% the inside of their spoon 24:23.866 --> 24:25.933 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:45% looks like someone took a hatchet to it. 24:27.200 --> 24:31.166 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% - Well that is really something to aspire to. 24:31.166 --> 24:32.666 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% - Yeah, it's so fun. - Beautiful work. 24:32.666 --> 24:33.933 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:40% - It's worth it. 24:33.933 --> 24:36.266 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:47.5% All right, Charles, I'm gonna send you home 24:36.266 --> 24:38.300 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% with a little bit of homework. 24:38.300 --> 24:39.300 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:30% - All right. - You take that 24:39.300 --> 24:40.533 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% 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