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John Lucas. 02:05.000 --> 02:08.033 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% Wow, love being in your shop. 02:08.033 --> 02:10.666 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% Tell us how you got started with this. 02:12.066 --> 02:16.533 align:start position:12.5% line:10% size:72.5% - Well, I started woodworking right after college, 02:16.533 --> 02:18.000 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% actually in college a little bit. 02:18.000 --> 02:21.333 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% I bought a router and scrolls and jigsaw and stuff, 02:21.333 --> 02:23.033 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:40% started playing. 02:23.033 --> 02:26.700 align:start position:25% line:74% size:45% And when I got the job at Tennessee Tech as a photographer, 02:26.700 --> 02:28.233 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% one of the things I was doing 02:28.233 --> 02:30.133 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:62.5% was photographing for the Appalachian Center for Crafts, 02:30.133 --> 02:31.733 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% photographing all their craft work. 02:31.733 --> 02:34.100 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:37.5% And I met a man named Joe Looper. 02:34.100 --> 02:35.333 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% And I'd been turning wood, 02:35.333 --> 02:37.233 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% I bought a shopsmith and I was playing 02:37.233 --> 02:39.400 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% and I was doing a little bit of turning, a little whatever. 02:39.400 --> 02:43.166 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% Joe Looper was really, really good at turning green wood. 02:43.166 --> 02:44.800 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% And so Joe kind of took me under his wing 02:44.800 --> 02:46.600 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% and got me going in that direction. 02:46.600 --> 02:49.466 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:62.5% - You had cheaper wood to turn because it's plentiful. 02:49.466 --> 02:51.033 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% - When I moved here to Tech, 02:51.033 --> 02:53.566 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% I'd lost two or three jobs due to layoffs, 02:53.566 --> 02:55.800 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% and I didn't have much money, 02:55.800 --> 02:58.400 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% I was working 40, 50, 60 hours a week. 02:58.400 --> 03:01.033 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% Didn't have a lot of time to build furniture anymore. 03:01.033 --> 03:03.000 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% And then when Joe got me into green wood working, 03:03.000 --> 03:05.633 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% I lived out in Gainesboro, had the woods all around me. 03:05.633 --> 03:07.400 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% It was the perfect hobby. 03:07.400 --> 03:09.200 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% I could go downstairs and, you know, 03:09.200 --> 03:11.733 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:55% turn a wine stopper or something in 30 minutes 03:11.733 --> 03:14.500 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% out of free wood, it was just the perfect thing 03:14.500 --> 03:16.533 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% and it just took off. 03:16.533 --> 03:19.666 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:45% - Well, I'm always amazed at what you make 03:19.666 --> 03:24.300 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% because it seems you always start with, what if. 03:25.866 --> 03:29.100 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% How did you develop that style? 03:29.100 --> 03:30.400 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% - I'm not real sure, 03:30.400 --> 03:32.500 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% it may have been my photography background 03:32.500 --> 03:37.133 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:55% in that in photography you can't build things. 03:37.133 --> 03:40.366 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% It's there and you have to change your composition 03:40.366 --> 03:42.666 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% or, you know, change the time of day or whatever 03:42.666 --> 03:43.800 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% in order to get it. 03:43.800 --> 03:45.566 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% And so you're constantly thinking about, 03:45.566 --> 03:49.500 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% when can I do this and how can I do that to make it better? 03:49.500 --> 03:51.333 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% And wood turning was kind of the same way, 03:51.333 --> 03:53.000 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% when I first got into it 03:53.000 --> 03:56.333 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% I made the normal things that everybody else makes, 03:56.333 --> 03:57.966 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% but then one day you're thinking, 03:57.966 --> 03:59.766 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% "Well, what if I could do this?" 03:59.766 --> 04:01.066 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% Or what if I could do that? 04:01.066 --> 04:02.533 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% And you try to figure out a way to do it, 04:02.533 --> 04:04.466 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% because back when I started, 04:04.466 --> 04:06.033 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% we didn't have all these videos, 04:07.266 --> 04:09.500 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% it was, you pretty much learned on your own. 04:09.500 --> 04:11.900 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% - I remember starting myself 04:11.900 --> 04:13.900 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:37.5% and I'd have to go to the library 04:13.900 --> 04:16.433 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% or try to find some old guy 04:16.433 --> 04:18.433 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% that would mentor me a little bit 04:18.433 --> 04:20.633 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% with something I wanted to learn. 04:20.633 --> 04:23.733 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:30% Learning has changed a lot, yeah. 04:25.200 --> 04:29.666 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:65% But there is no school for most of what you do. (chuckles) 04:29.666 --> 04:32.833 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% Kind of tell us about how you develop a project. 04:32.833 --> 04:36.200 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% - Well, usually there's something going on. 04:36.200 --> 04:37.700 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% Early on, everybody's always saying, 04:37.700 --> 04:39.100 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% "You need to get out of the box." 04:39.100 --> 04:40.966 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% You know, you need to think outside the box. 04:40.966 --> 04:44.333 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% I find for me, it's better if I think inside the box. 04:44.333 --> 04:49.300 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% In other words, if I narrow my scope on something and I say, 04:50.166 --> 04:51.366 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% I need to build something, 04:51.366 --> 04:52.833 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% such as my Louisville slugger piece, 04:54.600 --> 04:56.266 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% the National symposium was gonna be held 04:56.266 --> 04:58.433 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% next to the Louisville Slugger plant 04:58.433 --> 05:01.266 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% and the theme was something about baseball. 05:01.266 --> 05:04.300 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% So in my mind I was constantly going back about, 05:04.300 --> 05:07.000 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% what can I do about baseball that's related to it? 05:07.000 --> 05:08.666 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% And by narrowing it into that box, 05:08.666 --> 05:11.033 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% then you come up with really unique ideas. 05:11.033 --> 05:14.600 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% So I was trying to make something related to baseball, 05:14.600 --> 05:16.366 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% and since I make hand mirrors, 05:16.366 --> 05:17.866 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% this is a giant hand mirror. 05:19.400 --> 05:22.633 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:70% So I came up with this theme in Florida several years ago, 05:22.633 --> 05:25.166 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% there was a guy that taped a banana to the wall 05:25.166 --> 05:27.800 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% and he sold that for $80,000. 05:27.800 --> 05:29.366 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% Somebody came later 05:29.366 --> 05:32.666 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% and ripped the banana off the wall, sold that for $20,000. 05:32.666 --> 05:35.300 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:30% So I made an airbrushed appearance 05:35.300 --> 05:37.000 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% of a banana being ripped off the wall, 05:37.000 --> 05:40.700 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% put it on my baseball bat and my base. 05:40.700 --> 05:42.000 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% And when I built this piece, 05:42.000 --> 05:44.266 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% I purposely built it without any baseballs. 05:44.266 --> 05:45.600 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% So I titled the piece, 05:45.600 --> 05:48.200 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% "I Could Play That Game If I Had The Balls." 05:48.200 --> 05:49.466 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:45% (Charles chuckles) 05:49.466 --> 05:50.966 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% The piece that we'll see up here in a little bit, 05:50.966 --> 05:52.666 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% it's called "The Biological Clock." 05:52.666 --> 05:54.866 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% That was probably one of my first pieces 05:54.866 --> 05:56.366 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% that actually made a statement. 05:57.900 --> 06:02.066 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% You know, I was 40 years old, my wife was 38, whatever, 06:02.066 --> 06:03.800 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% we were all thinking about kids 06:03.800 --> 06:07.466 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% and had to think about getting older and what you do. 06:07.466 --> 06:10.133 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% And so I designed that piece one day 06:10.133 --> 06:12.133 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% and thought I could build it. 06:12.133 --> 06:14.366 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% The interesting thing about that piece was 06:14.366 --> 06:17.700 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% having not ever had any kind of lessons in carving, 06:17.700 --> 06:21.033 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% it was a real challenge to carve those feet, 06:21.033 --> 06:22.600 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:42.5% carve those legs. 06:22.600 --> 06:25.866 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% And I did so well that I won a carving competition. 06:25.866 --> 06:27.866 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% They tried to get me kicked outta the competition 06:27.866 --> 06:31.400 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% because the people said, "No, he's a professional." 06:31.400 --> 06:33.900 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% But the judges said, "No, he's a professional photographer. 06:33.900 --> 06:36.300 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% He's not a professional carver." 06:36.300 --> 06:37.766 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% And so I got first place. 06:39.000 --> 06:41.866 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:45% - Well, John, show me some of your work. 06:41.866 --> 06:43.666 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% - I'll be glad to. - All right. 06:43.666 --> 06:45.266 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% What a great display. 06:45.266 --> 06:47.500 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% Tell us about some of your favorites. 06:47.500 --> 06:50.233 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% - Well, they all have kind of a story. 06:50.233 --> 06:52.200 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% This one's one of my favorites. 06:52.200 --> 06:54.500 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% This is called "Love Doesn't Have Boundaries." 06:54.500 --> 06:58.400 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% My cousin married a black man years ago, 06:58.400 --> 06:59.766 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% had two wonderful babies, 06:59.766 --> 07:01.733 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:45% there's two little miniature goblets in there, 07:01.733 --> 07:04.066 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% and unfortunately she died of breast cancer. 07:04.066 --> 07:06.133 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% So I made this piece kind of in her honor. 07:07.500 --> 07:09.633 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:37.5% And so I'm kind of proud of that. 07:09.633 --> 07:11.833 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% - [Charles] Yeah, this one looks like 07:11.833 --> 07:14.733 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% maybe somebody carrying somebody. 07:14.733 --> 07:17.766 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% - [John] Right, this was my former secretary, 07:19.000 --> 07:20.800 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% had heart problems, they took her to Vanderbilt, 07:20.800 --> 07:22.766 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% she died two or three times. 07:22.766 --> 07:24.966 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% They told her she needed a heart transplant. 07:24.966 --> 07:27.500 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% Unfortunately, it takes six months or longer 07:27.500 --> 07:28.700 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:40% to find a heart. 07:28.700 --> 07:30.500 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% They found a heart two nights later. 07:30.500 --> 07:31.866 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% But what made me make this piece 07:31.866 --> 07:34.166 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% was her husband came home, found her on the floor, 07:34.166 --> 07:36.133 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% picked her up and laid her on the couch. 07:37.366 --> 07:38.966 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% I thought, how would you make that feel? 07:38.966 --> 07:41.833 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% I mean, that was, so I wanted to make a piece like that. 07:41.833 --> 07:44.900 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% And it kind of ties into the Bible theme 07:44.900 --> 07:47.166 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% of, you know, I followed you, 07:47.166 --> 07:51.033 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% and it ties into Marines never leaving a body behind. 07:51.033 --> 07:53.100 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% So it was all kind of in my mind. 07:53.100 --> 07:53.900 align:start position:40% line:84.67% size:17.5% - Yeah. 07:55.200 --> 07:58.166 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% That is such an emotional piece, I can tell. 07:59.433 --> 08:01.600 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% Every time I've heard the story from you, 08:03.100 --> 08:04.700 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% you do the same thing. 08:04.700 --> 08:06.800 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% - And it took me 12 years to make that. 08:06.800 --> 08:07.933 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% I'd actually made the piece, 08:07.933 --> 08:09.833 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% it's hard to tell all the details. 08:09.833 --> 08:11.566 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% I had made the feet and the heads, 08:11.566 --> 08:13.666 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% I wanted 'em to appear like an older person. 08:13.666 --> 08:15.533 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% So I used spalted wood. 08:15.533 --> 08:17.866 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% I couldn't bend these elbows. 08:17.866 --> 08:19.166 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% The wood kept breaking, 08:19.166 --> 08:21.566 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% I tried every bending technique on the market 08:21.566 --> 08:22.700 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% and could never get 'em bent. 08:22.700 --> 08:24.100 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% I even went to the woods 08:24.100 --> 08:26.600 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% and tried to find limbs that were shaped like that. 08:26.600 --> 08:27.966 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% - Well, how'd you find spalted wood for? 08:27.966 --> 08:29.233 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% - Well, that was the problem 08:29.233 --> 08:31.400 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% was none of the wood you can find is spalted. 08:31.400 --> 08:34.700 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% They developed a new timber where they crushed the timber 08:34.700 --> 08:36.133 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% under pressure and heat 08:36.133 --> 08:38.400 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% and when it expands, it doesn't expand all the way 08:38.400 --> 08:40.733 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% and you can bend it more than normal wood. 08:40.733 --> 08:42.266 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% So that allowed me to bend the pieces, 08:42.266 --> 08:43.833 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% but they weren't spalted. 08:43.833 --> 08:45.266 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% All this spalting was done 08:45.266 --> 08:48.033 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% with calligraphy pens and airbrushing. 08:48.033 --> 08:49.833 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% And you can see it matches exactly. 08:49.833 --> 08:51.866 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% I was really proud of that. 08:51.866 --> 08:55.700 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% - And so your what if kind of philosophy, 08:55.700 --> 08:57.066 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% what if I try this? 08:57.066 --> 09:00.033 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% Can I match that spalting that nature does? 09:00.033 --> 09:01.166 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% - I think that and saying, 09:01.166 --> 09:02.733 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% "I'm never gonna give up." (chuckles) 09:02.733 --> 09:04.266 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% - [Charles] There you go. Yeah. 09:04.266 --> 09:07.900 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:60% - Well the Ukraine piece was, it dawned on me one day, 09:07.900 --> 09:11.666 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% you know, wars are held by younger men. 09:13.000 --> 09:14.800 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% What happens if they all got tired 09:14.800 --> 09:17.400 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% of just killing each other and simply laid down their arms, 09:17.400 --> 09:19.433 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% irregardless of what their government said, 09:19.433 --> 09:21.166 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% the war would just end. 09:21.166 --> 09:23.800 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% So I titled that piece, "Hope Springs Eternal." 09:23.800 --> 09:25.666 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% You know, they just simply laid down their arms 09:25.666 --> 09:27.233 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% and said, "we're not gonna fight anymore." 09:27.233 --> 09:28.833 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% - And they're linked in peace there. 09:28.833 --> 09:30.833 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% - And they're tied with captured rings. 09:30.833 --> 09:33.400 align:start position:35% line:84.67% size:30% - Yeah. Wow. 09:33.400 --> 09:34.766 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% What is this one about? 09:34.766 --> 09:37.133 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% - Well, this one was about the housing crisis. 09:38.233 --> 09:39.633 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% When the housing crisis was going on, 09:39.633 --> 09:42.233 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:60% all the rich people were having to sell their houses 09:42.233 --> 09:45.866 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:72.5% or their houses were going up to be repossessed or whatever. 09:45.866 --> 09:47.366 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% And so it dawned on me one day, 09:47.366 --> 09:50.666 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:65% I wonder if I can actually make the three little pigs. 09:50.666 --> 09:52.666 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% And it was really a bear gluing, 09:52.666 --> 09:55.533 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:70% every one of these pieces of straw was glued individually. 09:55.533 --> 09:57.233 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% These are little boxes. 09:57.233 --> 10:00.000 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:55% They're held down with magnets, they have a lid. 10:00.000 --> 10:03.100 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% And so, anyway, so I made this one. 10:03.100 --> 10:06.300 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% The brick house, of course, has got a really nice yard. 10:06.300 --> 10:10.200 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% It's being repossessed. (Charles chuckles) 10:10.200 --> 10:13.100 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% The stick house and the straw house, 10:13.100 --> 10:15.500 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% of course the straw house has a little bit funkier yard 10:15.500 --> 10:19.200 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% and so I had to learn how to do all the diorama things, 10:19.200 --> 10:21.000 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:55% which was a lot of fun trying to learn that too. 10:21.000 --> 10:23.333 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:32.5% And, and then trying to figure out 10:23.333 --> 10:25.966 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% how to glue all the sticks on and all the straw on 10:25.966 --> 10:27.333 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% was quite challenging. 10:27.333 --> 10:31.666 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:60% - Well, John, you really like to do very delicate, 10:31.666 --> 10:34.666 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% how in the world did he do that, kind of work? 10:34.666 --> 10:39.600 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% You've got a whole collection here of just small tables 10:41.033 --> 10:43.266 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% and finials and candlesticks, tell us about that. 10:43.266 --> 10:46.233 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% - Well, these are dollhouse scale, the ones that I do. 10:46.233 --> 10:48.633 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% I've been making those for a long time. 10:48.633 --> 10:49.900 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% It's just kind of a challenge 10:49.900 --> 10:51.566 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% to learn how to make things like that. 10:51.566 --> 10:53.766 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% And then the people on the internet, 10:53.766 --> 10:55.533 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% once the internet came around, 10:55.533 --> 10:58.100 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% they start giving you a hard time about, 10:58.100 --> 11:01.333 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:67.5% "Well, why didn't you put a captured ring on those goblets?" 11:01.333 --> 11:03.300 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% There is one in there with a captured ring on it. 11:03.300 --> 11:07.333 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:60% So then I started making the captured ring goblets 11:07.333 --> 11:09.400 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% to see how small I could go. 11:09.400 --> 11:12.400 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:60% And the smallest ring on there is actually smaller 11:12.400 --> 11:14.700 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% than the zero on the date of a penny. 11:14.700 --> 11:17.400 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% - Wow, I can see the captured rings. 11:17.400 --> 11:20.500 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% In fact, you got two captured rings on that one. 11:20.500 --> 11:21.866 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% I don't know how in the world you, 11:21.866 --> 11:25.100 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% I guess that is as small as you can get, right? 11:25.100 --> 11:26.600 align:start position:42.5% line:84.67% size:12.5% - No. 11:26.600 --> 11:29.133 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% Well actually, I used to have three boxes. 11:29.133 --> 11:32.400 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% One of 'em got lost on when I came back from a demo, 11:32.400 --> 11:35.100 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% on the plane when my boxes got busted open 11:35.100 --> 11:37.800 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% and never found all those medium sized goblets. 11:37.800 --> 11:40.566 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% But the super miniature goblets are still here. 11:40.566 --> 11:43.666 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:65% And what I used to do as a joke when I was doing demos 11:43.666 --> 11:47.466 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% is I would pass around the first big box 11:47.466 --> 11:49.966 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% and then I'd pass around the medium sized box 11:49.966 --> 11:52.066 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% and then I'd take the third box and pass it around and say, 11:52.066 --> 11:53.833 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% "These are my goblets." 11:53.833 --> 11:56.666 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% And then I'd pass a box around that was totally empty 11:56.666 --> 11:59.300 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:60% and say, "Now, these are my really small goblets." 11:59.300 --> 12:01.266 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% And it was a lot of fun watching people 12:01.266 --> 12:02.733 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% hold that box up to the light 12:02.733 --> 12:04.766 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% trying to see those little goblets that didn't exist. 12:04.766 --> 12:06.333 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:47.5% - Oh, that's great, that's a great story. 12:06.333 --> 12:10.033 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% Well, John, you're known for your hand mirrors, 12:10.033 --> 12:13.300 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:32.5% and this is a beautiful hand mirror, 12:13.300 --> 12:16.266 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% but lots of your mirrors tell a story. 12:16.266 --> 12:17.700 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% Tell us about that. 12:17.700 --> 12:18.966 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% - Well, hand mirrors, 12:18.966 --> 12:20.566 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% when I started first making the mirrors, 12:20.566 --> 12:21.900 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% every one was different. 12:21.900 --> 12:24.200 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% They became kind of a pallet for me, 12:24.200 --> 12:26.733 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% in that I would take this scrap piece of wood 12:26.733 --> 12:29.500 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% and how do I make something unique out of this? 12:29.500 --> 12:31.033 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% So they gradually kind of took off 12:31.033 --> 12:34.233 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% and I gradually started trying to tell stories with 'em. 12:34.233 --> 12:37.066 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:47.5% - How do you tell a story with a hand mirror? 12:37.066 --> 12:38.666 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% - Well, a good example might be this one, 12:38.666 --> 12:41.900 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% which is the Mayan calendar, 12:41.900 --> 12:45.100 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% we were all supposed to die in 2012. 12:45.100 --> 12:46.866 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% So I came up with a design for this 12:47.900 --> 12:49.400 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% and it became pretty challenging 12:49.400 --> 12:51.700 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% because there's every kind of woodworking in here. 12:51.700 --> 12:53.166 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% There's carving, there's airbrushing, 12:53.166 --> 12:55.466 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% there's gold leafing, there's wood burning. 12:58.000 --> 13:00.066 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% turned on 13 different axises. 13:00.066 --> 13:02.066 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% All of these, this is ebony, 13:02.066 --> 13:05.033 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% these are all carved to looked like napped flint. 13:05.033 --> 13:06.800 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% I wanted it to look like a war club. 13:08.333 --> 13:11.400 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% - That's amazing, what a piece of work that is. 13:11.400 --> 13:12.566 align:start position:45% line:84.67% size:10% Wow. 13:12.566 --> 13:14.433 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% Well, you got some others? 13:14.433 --> 13:17.266 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% - I have plenty. - All right, show us. 13:20.100 --> 13:22.500 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% - You know, I made a lot of flowered ones over the years, 13:22.500 --> 13:25.066 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% this just happens to be one of the latest. 13:26.766 --> 13:29.133 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% Just a little carving, a little airbrushing, 13:29.133 --> 13:31.200 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% trying to play with it all. 13:31.200 --> 13:35.400 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:60% I've done ginkgo leaves, I've done maple leaf flowers. 13:36.866 --> 13:39.233 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% - Well, I heard about one that you did 13:39.233 --> 13:41.766 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% that has something to do with burning. 13:41.766 --> 13:42.900 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% - Well, I made this one. 13:42.900 --> 13:44.700 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% I was trying to enter a competition 13:44.700 --> 13:46.600 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% called Turned and Burned. 13:46.600 --> 13:48.400 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% And I couldn't come up with any ideas, 13:48.400 --> 13:49.666 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% I was racking my brain. 13:50.666 --> 13:52.666 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% And I was out burning leaves 13:52.666 --> 13:54.500 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% and I happened to scratch the match and went, 13:54.500 --> 13:56.700 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% "Oh, I can make that." 13:56.700 --> 13:58.366 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% Actually, this is what happened. 13:58.366 --> 13:59.933 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% I was turning epoxy one time 13:59.933 --> 14:03.900 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% and mixing huge amounts of thickener in the epoxy. 14:03.900 --> 14:05.166 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% And apparently when you do that, 14:05.166 --> 14:07.500 align:start position:10% line:10% size:80% it creates bubbles in the epoxy. 14:07.500 --> 14:09.033 align:start position:27.5% line:10% size:47.5% And so I remembered that and thought, 14:09.033 --> 14:11.233 align:start position:25% line:10% size:50% I can make that look like a match head. 14:11.233 --> 14:12.966 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% So I kind of came up with the overall theme, 14:12.966 --> 14:15.566 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% but how am I gonna make it fit Turned and Burned? 14:15.566 --> 14:17.966 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% So I turned the opening, put the mirror in there, 14:17.966 --> 14:19.400 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% and then it's burned. 14:19.400 --> 14:21.533 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% And it says, "Success is not the result 14:21.533 --> 14:23.033 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% of spontaneous combustion. 14:23.033 --> 14:25.566 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% You must first set yourself on fire." 14:25.566 --> 14:27.766 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:37.5% (John chuckles) 14:27.766 --> 14:30.866 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% Fred Shero said that, he was a hockey coach. 14:30.866 --> 14:33.766 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% And so I entered in the competition, 14:33.766 --> 14:37.266 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:45% and I got a letter back from the judges. 14:39.766 --> 14:42.133 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% They liked this the best of all, 14:42.133 --> 14:43.333 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% but they felt like it had 14:43.333 --> 14:44.833 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% so little turning and burning on it 14:44.833 --> 14:46.566 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:37.5% compared to all the other entries 14:46.566 --> 14:49.133 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% that they would've taken a huge amount of flak 14:49.133 --> 14:51.200 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% if they had made me first prize. 14:51.200 --> 14:53.100 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% So what they did was they gave out the prizes 14:53.100 --> 14:56.233 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% to the other pieces that were actually extraordinary. 14:56.233 --> 14:59.266 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% And they all personally sent me a letter saying, 14:59.266 --> 15:01.333 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% this is the best piece in the show, we thought, 15:01.333 --> 15:03.233 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% and why they, you know, did that. 15:03.233 --> 15:05.066 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% So I felt pretty honored about it. 15:05.066 --> 15:06.433 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% - That's wonderful. 15:06.433 --> 15:07.933 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:60% - One of the things I've been doing over the years 15:07.933 --> 15:09.333 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% is trying to make some mirrors 15:09.333 --> 15:11.766 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% from some of the people that I respected growing up. 15:11.766 --> 15:14.366 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% Of course, Alfred Hitchcock was one of the greats 15:14.366 --> 15:17.466 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% and I was learning airbrushing so I developed this 15:17.466 --> 15:20.233 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% and started learning how to burn the wood. 15:20.233 --> 15:22.100 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% A lot of times I learn a technique 15:22.100 --> 15:23.500 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% and then I try to figure out 15:23.500 --> 15:26.033 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% how am I gonna use that technique on something I do. 15:26.033 --> 15:30.266 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% And handwriting with a wood-burning tool 15:30.266 --> 15:31.766 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% is really difficult. 15:31.766 --> 15:36.166 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% - So it's got "The Birds," "Rebecca," "North By Northwest," 15:36.166 --> 15:37.100 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:45% all of his movies. 15:37.100 --> 15:38.333 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% - All of his movies are on here, 15:38.333 --> 15:40.000 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% you know, somewhere or another. 15:40.000 --> 15:43.500 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% - I bet it took a good evening to do this. 15:43.500 --> 15:46.000 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% - Takes patience. (Charles chuckles) 15:46.000 --> 15:47.866 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% My current mirror that I'm working on, 15:49.233 --> 15:51.600 align:start position:35% line:79.33% size:27.5% always been fascinated by Picasso 15:51.600 --> 15:53.666 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% and particularly his cubism style. 15:53.666 --> 15:58.633 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% And so I'm building this to represent his cubism paintings. 15:59.766 --> 16:01.233 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% And one of the things I'm gonna do 16:01.233 --> 16:03.066 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% is I'm gonna break up the glass and glue it on here 16:03.066 --> 16:04.433 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% so that when you look at it, 16:04.433 --> 16:07.266 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% you see yourself as a cubism painting. 16:07.266 --> 16:09.233 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% So I got a long ways to go on this, but. 16:09.233 --> 16:13.133 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% - That is pure John Lucas. (chuckles) 16:13.133 --> 16:15.000 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% That is just great. 16:15.000 --> 16:17.700 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:40% (cheerful music) 16:26.766 --> 16:30.333 align:start position:17.5% line:10% size:65% (cheerful music continues) 16:39.700 --> 16:43.266 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% (cheerful music continues) 16:52.133 --> 16:55.666 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% (cheerful music continues) 17:05.033 --> 17:08.566 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% (cheerful music continues) 17:12.966 --> 17:16.000 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:37.5% Right back here we have something 17:16.000 --> 17:17.833 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% that is kind of new for you. 17:17.833 --> 17:19.633 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% - This is a trembler, I've never made one. 17:19.633 --> 17:21.000 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% I've always wanted to. 17:21.000 --> 17:22.766 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% For years I always thought I had the skill, 17:22.766 --> 17:24.566 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% just never took the time to do it. 17:24.566 --> 17:26.700 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% And so I finally made it a priority 17:26.700 --> 17:31.000 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% and I turned one of these, a smaller one, and I liked it 17:31.000 --> 17:32.600 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% but it was a little bit too small in diameter. 17:32.600 --> 17:35.466 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% Each element, it needs that contrast in size 17:35.466 --> 17:36.833 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% to look really nice. 17:36.833 --> 17:38.866 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% So I made this one the other day 17:38.866 --> 17:40.166 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% and it came out pretty well. 17:40.166 --> 17:43.466 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% - [Charles] And is the purpose more an exercise 17:43.466 --> 17:45.566 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% to see if you can do it, the challenge? 17:45.566 --> 17:49.166 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% - It is, in France the man that I saw do it first 17:49.166 --> 17:51.100 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% was Jean Francois Escoulen. 17:51.100 --> 17:54.266 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% And he teaches wood turning classes over in France. 17:54.266 --> 17:56.533 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:35% And one of the graduation projects 17:56.533 --> 17:58.300 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% that they have to do is a trembler 17:58.300 --> 17:59.900 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% because it takes a lot of skill to do it. 17:59.900 --> 18:03.500 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:67.5% So you're showing everybody that I have the skill to do this 18:03.500 --> 18:05.666 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% as a professional turner. 18:05.666 --> 18:06.900 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% - Well, you're a person 18:06.900 --> 18:09.333 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% you definitely don't want to challenge 18:09.333 --> 18:13.333 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% because you'll take the challenge, I know you well. 18:13.333 --> 18:16.366 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% How do you do that, how do you keep it 18:16.366 --> 18:18.766 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% from just tearing all apart on the lathe? 18:18.766 --> 18:20.333 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% Any little pressure? 18:20.333 --> 18:21.900 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% - Well, it'll be much easier to show you 18:21.900 --> 18:23.966 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% because it's hard to talk about 18:23.966 --> 18:25.966 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% what it takes to actually do one of these. 18:25.966 --> 18:28.266 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% - Okay, well let's see it. - All right. 18:28.266 --> 18:32.033 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% - John, you've laminated a piece of stock here 18:32.033 --> 18:33.500 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% and mounted it on the lathe. 18:34.600 --> 18:37.566 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% Does this lamination help at all? 18:37.566 --> 18:39.466 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% - No, it actually causes some problems. 18:39.466 --> 18:41.833 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% Part of the reason I laminated was 18:41.833 --> 18:43.666 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% you have to have the grain running continuous 18:43.666 --> 18:45.000 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% from one end to the other. 18:45.000 --> 18:47.366 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% So I was selecting wood outta my pile 18:47.366 --> 18:50.066 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% that had a continuous grain and the piece that I picked 18:50.066 --> 18:54.833 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:40% was wide enough, not thick enough. 18:54.833 --> 18:55.933 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% So I built up the thickness 18:55.933 --> 18:57.900 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% by adding these laminating layers. 18:57.900 --> 19:00.533 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% But the problem is the cherry is not as hard 19:00.533 --> 19:01.966 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:45% as the hard maple. 19:01.966 --> 19:03.833 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:60% So it actually creates a little vibration in the tool, 19:03.833 --> 19:05.300 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% fights me a little bit 19:05.300 --> 19:07.600 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% And any vibration is transmitted to here. 19:07.600 --> 19:10.133 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% - Yeah, the density of the wood changes 19:10.133 --> 19:12.666 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% and the strategy has to change a little bit. 19:12.666 --> 19:15.066 align:start position:37.5% line:79.33% size:25% - Exactly. - Yeah, the pressure used. 19:16.333 --> 19:20.633 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% But again, all the grain needed to be straight. 19:20.633 --> 19:24.333 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% Any short grain, this would not make it at all. 19:24.333 --> 19:25.700 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:70% - Right, one of the problems 19:25.700 --> 19:27.700 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% with turning one of these things is 19:27.700 --> 19:30.200 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% any mistake and the piece is history. 19:30.200 --> 19:33.566 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% - (chuckles) Yeah, and you've got 19:33.566 --> 19:36.566 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% a unique way to support it. 19:36.566 --> 19:39.033 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% - Right, this is what Jean Francois Escoulen 19:39.033 --> 19:41.500 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% was teaching back in the days was, 19:41.500 --> 19:45.066 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% what I do is I turn the pace between centers first. 19:45.066 --> 19:46.333 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% then I move this away 19:46.333 --> 19:48.000 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% and I drill a little center hole in there 19:48.000 --> 19:50.066 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% to put a hanger on later. 19:50.066 --> 19:52.133 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% And the tail stock is no longer supporting it. 19:52.133 --> 19:55.300 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:60% You can kind of see that it's sticking in that hole, 19:55.300 --> 19:58.366 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% but all it's doing is reducing the chatter and the flex. 19:58.366 --> 19:59.733 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% And as you turn every, 19:59.733 --> 20:02.533 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% everything starts to chatter and flex. 20:02.533 --> 20:04.300 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:57.5% So you put these little string steadies in here 20:04.300 --> 20:07.300 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% to kind of reduce how much it can move. 20:07.300 --> 20:09.833 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:67.5% And then you have to change the speed of the lathe 20:10.733 --> 20:12.233 align:start position:35% line:84.67% size:30% up and down. 20:12.233 --> 20:15.566 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% If I go too fast, you'll see that it starts to shimmy. 20:15.566 --> 20:16.766 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:42.5% - [Charles] Yeah. 20:16.766 --> 20:17.866 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% - So I can either go a little faster 20:17.866 --> 20:19.400 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% and see if it goes away, 20:19.400 --> 20:22.566 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% or I can back it back down till it stops moving. 20:22.566 --> 20:24.733 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% And that's where I've gotta turn right now. 20:24.733 --> 20:27.000 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% Now I can continually vary the speed. 20:27.000 --> 20:29.133 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% I wanna turn as high a speed as I can, 20:29.133 --> 20:30.833 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:77.5% but, like you saw a minute ago, 20:30.833 --> 20:34.200 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% as I turned that speed up, the vibration gets too intense. 20:34.200 --> 20:36.166 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% I could maybe put a third 20:36.166 --> 20:38.900 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% string steady right there to help that. 20:38.900 --> 20:42.366 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:72.5% But we may need the third one down here, maybe a fourth one. 20:42.366 --> 20:44.600 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% And right now I only have four, so. 20:44.600 --> 20:46.133 align:start position:35% line:84.67% size:30% - All right. 20:46.133 --> 20:50.500 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% - But to turn, like I say, you can't make any mistakes. 20:50.500 --> 20:51.966 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% So I can't get a catch. 20:51.966 --> 20:54.466 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% And because the wood wants to chatter a little bit, 20:54.466 --> 20:56.433 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:42.5% it's like turning the lip of a bowl. 20:56.433 --> 20:58.500 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:30% If I cut too aggressively right there, 20:58.500 --> 21:00.766 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% it'll run back on me and I get a catch. 21:00.766 --> 21:03.366 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% So I have to be very careful at the start of the cut. 21:05.833 --> 21:07.633 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% See, you can see it's kicking back. 21:07.633 --> 21:11.833 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:72.5% So what I wanna do is I wanna get the tool started properly. 21:11.833 --> 21:14.466 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:37.5% (tool scraping) 21:15.733 --> 21:17.500 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% And I need to support it with my fingers. 21:19.833 --> 21:22.466 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:37.5% (tool scraping) 21:28.466 --> 21:31.033 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% So we'll start to cut a little more gently. 21:31.033 --> 21:34.266 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:37.5% (tool scraping) 21:34.266 --> 21:35.866 align:start position:32.5% line:79.33% size:37.5% Now, one of the things I've learned 21:35.866 --> 21:39.300 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:75% when I started doing these was cutting parallel to the grain 21:39.300 --> 21:42.966 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:55% is incredibly slow and causes a lot more flex. 21:42.966 --> 21:46.166 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:50% So I found that I'll cut across the grain. 21:46.166 --> 21:48.766 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:37.5% (tool scraping) 21:50.466 --> 21:51.800 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% And while it's still thick 21:51.800 --> 21:54.233 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% I can get away with cheating a little bit. 21:54.233 --> 21:56.766 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% You'll notice that I'm actually scraping now 21:56.766 --> 21:57.633 align:start position:27.5% line:84.67% size:47.5% instead of cutting. 21:59.033 --> 22:02.366 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:37.5% (tool scraping) 22:02.366 --> 22:05.100 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:70% Take little bites, don't put any pressure on the bevel. 22:08.900 --> 22:10.733 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:75% Then I'll reduce it some more. 22:10.733 --> 22:13.866 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:47.5% Again, I can reduce it crossing the grain, 22:13.866 --> 22:15.533 align:start position:10% line:84.67% size:80% I don't create as much vibration 22:16.800 --> 22:19.700 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% on the piece so I can kind of get by with it. 22:19.700 --> 22:22.333 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:37.5% (tool scraping) 22:31.800 --> 22:34.800 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% So what I wanna do is get the full length 22:34.800 --> 22:36.900 align:start position:15% line:84.67% size:67.5% of this particular element, 22:36.900 --> 22:39.033 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:42.5% which is gonna be roughly where my line is. 22:43.266 --> 22:46.966 align:start position:10% line:79.33% size:80% - [Charles] And all the elements were a little different. 22:46.966 --> 22:49.433 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:60% - That's the idea is to, 22:49.433 --> 22:51.500 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% you wanna do different designs, different things. 22:51.500 --> 22:53.700 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% You'll notice I added a captured ring here. 22:53.700 --> 22:57.100 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:65% You wanna show your skills is part of the piece 22:57.100 --> 22:59.533 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:52.5% is to be able to do a different design on each one 23:00.866 --> 23:02.833 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% and to be able to cut very, very cleanly 23:04.633 --> 23:05.933 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% because you can sand, 23:05.933 --> 23:08.366 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% but you can only sand to a certain point. 23:08.366 --> 23:09.866 align:start position:25% line:84.67% size:50% I stopped the lathe, 23:09.866 --> 23:12.166 align:start position:15% line:79.33% size:65% I was getting a little bit more chatter than I wanted. 23:12.166 --> 23:15.133 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:55% Sometimes these wheels get just a tiny bit loose 23:15.133 --> 23:16.566 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:52.5% and that causes that. 23:16.566 --> 23:18.800 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% And I need to go back and clean up this area. 23:20.300 --> 23:22.000 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% Because when you start a cut, 23:22.000 --> 23:24.633 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:62.5% if the wood is out around it wants to catch the tool. 23:25.900 --> 23:28.966 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% So I put the bevel on there, rotate the tool. 23:28.966 --> 23:31.433 align:start position:27.5% line:79.33% size:45% Again, I can't put any pressure on it. 23:31.433 --> 23:34.066 align:start position:30% line:84.67% size:37.5% (tool scraping) 23:35.866 --> 23:37.366 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:65% Your tool has to be sharp. 23:40.300 --> 23:41.400 align:start position:17.5% line:84.67% size:62.5% And in fact, I'm finding, 23:41.400 --> 23:43.200 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% which is kind of interesting to me, 23:43.200 --> 23:46.600 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:47.5% that I am having to sharpen more frequently 23:46.600 --> 23:48.966 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% on something this size than I do on a bowl 23:50.100 --> 23:52.200 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% because the sharpness is so critical. 23:52.200 --> 23:53.833 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% If I don't have a sharp tool, 23:53.833 --> 23:58.733 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:60% any pressure I put going forward causes a problem. 23:58.733 --> 24:03.600 align:start position:30% line:79.33% size:40% (lathe whirring) (tool scraping) 24:08.866 --> 24:11.233 align:start position:12.5% line:84.67% size:72.5% - [Charles] Just fascinating. 24:13.766 --> 24:16.900 align:start position:17.5% line:79.33% size:60% - [John] The problem is, part of the problem anyway, 24:16.900 --> 24:18.166 align:start position:22.5% line:84.67% size:55% you're only taking off 24:18.166 --> 24:20.766 align:start position:25% line:79.33% size:50% about 10 thousandths of an inch per pass. 24:22.466 --> 24:24.733 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:55% Because much more than that and you'll break it. 24:28.833 --> 24:31.966 align:start position:12.5% line:79.33% size:72.5% - This looks like about what, an eighth of an inch here? 24:31.966 --> 24:33.700 align:start position:20% line:79.33% size:60% - It's a little bit over an eighth of an inch, 24:33.700 --> 24:36.300 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:57.5% 140 thousandths roughly is what those three are. 24:36.300 --> 24:37.666 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:52.5% - [Charles] So you've gotta bring that one down 24:37.666 --> 24:39.000 align:start position:20% line:84.67% size:57.5% just a little bit more. 24:39.000 --> 24:40.466 align:start position:22.5% line:79.33% size:55% - 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